Re: State of FreeCalypso
On Sat 18 April 2015 21:32:21 Spacefalcon the Outlaw wrote: > I am not > asking you to publicly apologize for the 2 years of mental TORTURE you > put me through - so why are people asking me to apologize for my > reaction to that torture? Listen buddy! NOBODY TORTURED YOU, except you yourself did that maybe. OM not even approached you, we simply ignored you as far as any possible. When that's torturing then what is it YOU are doing to me - right now? What would ypou say when now *I* would claim you're torturing me by not granting me that apardon for your inappropriate behavior? Would you appreciate me threatening you, your family and coworkers, to get that pardon from you? And you have to admit that *you* started this particular thread by addressing me with your extorting efforts. NOT I did anything that would now result in me awaiting a public apology for the former (and recent) public threatening (not to mention the lying and badmouthing and...) -- () ascii ribbon campaign /\ against html e-mail - against proprietary attachments http://www.georgedillon.com/web/html_email_is_evil.shtml http://www.nonhtmlmail.org/campaign.html http://www.georgedillon.com/web/html_email_is_evil_still.shtml http://www.gerstbach.at/2004/ascii/ (German) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: State of FreeCalypso
joerg Reisenweber wrote: > Thanks for brining it up, Neil. Alas, you see, it's in vain. Despite al= > l the=20 > good will from our side. [...] I don't hold any grudges against you. I don't consider you an enemy. I don't have any ill will toward you or any of your former coworkers who badly hurt me. I got what I needed, and at least from my side, all past is forgiven. But I don't believe that I owe any apologies to anyone. I am not asking you to publicly apologize for the 2 years of mental TORTURE you put me through - so why are people asking me to apologize for my reaction to that torture? > have access to them and to threaten *us* (OpenMoko) instead of maybe TI= > with=20 > assault and murder when we don't grant him access. "Maybe TI"? What makes you think that there *even one person* in the present-day TI who even knows/remembers that they were once in that business, let alone has a copy of any sources from those days? As far as I know, all TI offices where that work was done were closed and all associated employees were laid off. I consider it very likely that present-day TI as a company *does not have a copy* of any of these sources, except for whatever they may have downloaded from my FTP site or the like. At the time of the painful 2 y long episode in question, I believed (and had every good reason to believe) that you were holding the world's last remaining copy. I think it's time we put that past behind us and move on with our lives and with whatever productive work we can do. VLR, SF ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: State of FreeCalypso
On Sat 18 April 2015 09:41:03 n...@ossau.homelinux.net wrote: > I wonder if you might now consider retracting and apologising for those, and > undertake not to repeat similar in future? Thanks for brining it up, Neil. Alas, you see, it's in vain. Despite all the good will from our side. This guy was probably born in a cinema during a Rambo movie. ;-) Maybe he *needs* that attitude that only he and his AK-47 can change the world, and everybody except himself is on the wrong side of that AK-47. Some people need that sort of challenge to push up the importance and perceived burden of their own struggle. In Germany we have the saying "Viel Feind, viel Ehr". Worst case - and with according mental problems - you consider your allies your worst enemies just to keep that attitude. And you know Leroy Jethro Gibbs: "never apologize!" ;) /j -- () ascii ribbon campaign /\ against html e-mail - against proprietary attachments http://www.georgedillon.com/web/html_email_is_evil.shtml http://www.nonhtmlmail.org/campaign.html http://www.georgedillon.com/web/html_email_is_evil_still.shtml http://www.gerstbach.at/2004/ascii/ (German) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: State of FreeCalypso
On Sat 18 April 2015 20:22:31 m...@dmatthews.org wrote: > yeah crazy - the four freedoms on a cell phone - only a nut case would dream > that one up you're completely missing the point. this guy threatening OM and me personally to kill me when I don't grant him access to sources which even OM had unclear permissions in (since received form FIC and not directly from TI, initially) and for sure would be liable when disclosing them to a nut case psycho who thinks it's his natural right to have access to them and to threaten *us* (OpenMoko) instead of maybe TI with assault and murder when we don't grant him access. OM was *very* liberal with granting access to virtually *everything* to *everybody* who showed a *little bit* of common sense about avoiding possible damage to OpenMoko when getting access to that material whatever it been. We explicitly decided that any such common sense is NOT to be found in *this particular person* who rather threatens to kill us than considering how to cooperate in a reasonable manner that maximizes benefit and limits possible damage on both sides. And evidently nothing has changed, the line of argumentation is all the same since years. so: futile effort. File closed. -- () ascii ribbon campaign /\ against html e-mail - against proprietary attachments http://www.georgedillon.com/web/html_email_is_evil.shtml http://www.nonhtmlmail.org/campaign.html http://www.georgedillon.com/web/html_email_is_evil_still.shtml http://www.gerstbach.at/2004/ascii/ (German) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: State of FreeCalypso
> >futile effort to educate persons with such mental issues. >s/educate/cure/ yeah crazy - the four freedoms on a cell phone - only a nut case would dream that one up -- David Matthews m...@dmatthews.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: State of FreeCalypso
On Sat 18 April 2015 17:41:02 Spacefalcon the Outlaw wrote: > I would never had been able to work on a project like FreeCalypso - > neither technically nor emotionally - while there were persons in the > so-called "community" taunting me with "we have this source which > would make a night-and-day difference for your project, but we'll > never let you have it" - therefore, making plans of a life-for-a-life > exchange (giving up my own life after torturing and killing them) was > my only available option under those circumstances. without any words. Guess about our motivation to cooperate with somebody as mad as this futile effort to educate persons with such mental issues. s/educate/cure/ ETX /j -- () ascii ribbon campaign /\ against html e-mail - against proprietary attachments http://www.georgedillon.com/web/html_email_is_evil.shtml http://www.nonhtmlmail.org/campaign.html http://www.georgedillon.com/web/html_email_is_evil_still.shtml http://www.gerstbach.at/2004/ascii/ (German) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: State of FreeCalypso
n...@ossau.homelinux.net wrote: > but I find it hard to forget the unacceptably violent threats that you've > made in the past (on this list) towards particular people. The people you are referring to tormented me in the most heinous manner for a full 2 years (from the fall of 2011 till about the same time in 2013), and the threats you are referring to were not so much threats as tentative contingency plans. *All* of the work that I've done on the FreeCalypso project so far has been possible *only* because the playing field was finally leveled in the fall of 2013 with the publishing of a source equivalent to the one that was wrongfully denied to unprivileged persons like me in the prior years: now everyone in the world, including nobodies like me, has access to exactly the same set of starting point materials. I would never had been able to work on a project like FreeCalypso - neither technically nor emotionally - while there were persons in the so-called "community" taunting me with "we have this source which would make a night-and-day difference for your project, but we'll never let you have it" - therefore, making plans of a life-for-a-life exchange (giving up my own life after torturing and killing them) was my only available option under those circumstances. > I wonder if you might now consider retracting and apologising for those, Retracting: sure, now that the playing field has been leveled and everyone including me has access to the same set of starting point materials, there is no longer any need for me to kidnap, torture or kill anyone. Apologising: hell no! I do not owe any apology to a bunch of sadists who got some kind of sexual gratification out of watching my life wither away (for a full 2 years!) without access to the one and only piece of pirate ware (TCS211 semi-src given by TI to a whole bunch of phone and modem manufacturers in 2007) which I needed in order to have a purposeful, meaningful and productive life. And I *do* have that purposeful, meaningful and productive life now, thanks to the Russian comrade who helped me obtain (and publish to the rest of the world) a copy of that TCS211 semi-src - but I don't owe any apologies to anyone. > and undertake not to repeat similar in future? Sure: the playing field is now level, I have all of the starting point materials I need, and the rest of the world has them too through my FTP site and physical DVD-R distributions, so there is no more need to resort to life-sacrifice means. VLR, SF ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: State of FreeCalypso
>I'm impressed byâ your dedication and detail, and I partly enjoy reading >your updates +1 but s/partly/entirely [although I also didn't enjoy reading threats :-)] Lets not forget - just one man working doggedly on the only project that offers any possibility of a cell phone running firmware that offers the four freedoms. In recognition of the fact that this project is going beyond the leo2moko firmware port and the freerunner itself, I've updated the links to the howtos I wrote for the existing firmware and tools that Michael has released:- http://matthews.pm/freecalypso.html (formerly http://matthews.pm/leo2moko.html) There should not be any broken links, but if you do see any, please let me know. Finally, please do donate generously - to Michael, not myself ^_~ -- David Matthews m...@dmatthews.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: State of FreeCalypso
A non-technical comment that you can take or leave - but it is my genuine response to your writings... I'm impressed by your dedication and detail, and I partly enjoy reading your updates; but I find it hard to forget the unacceptably violent threats that you've made in the past (on this list) towards particular people. I wonder if you might now consider retracting and apologising for those, and undertake not to repeat similar in future? Viva la humanidad! Neil Original Message From: Spacefalcon the Outlaw Sent: Saturday, 18 April 2015 07:29 To: community@lists.openmoko.org Reply To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: State of FreeCalypso Hello community, This periodic post is a summary of the goals of the FreeCalypso family of projects and the high-level status toward their achievement. Goals = The overall end goals of the project are, in no particular order: 1. Produce a standalone realization of Openmoko's modem. I have had occasion to work with various GSM modems and phones acting as modems (presenting an AT command interface) since A.D. 2000, and the modem in the Freerunner is by far the nicest I've ever touched. TI's implementation of the GSM specs is the richest in terms of functionality (contrast with the lack of CSD support in most 3G+ USB "stick" modems), and thanks to the Leonardo semi-src find, we now have full visibility into its inner workings. But it's a shame that this awesome GSM+GPRS modem is currently tucked away in the guts of the Freerunner, inaccessible to anyone besides the tiny handful of active FR owners/users - and even when one does have a Freerunner, it is not possible to take the FR's AP subsystem out of the picture and use the modem directly from an external host; one has to go through the AP instead, severely limiting the ability to use this modem outside of the FR. Hence I would like to build a modem just like Om's, but brought out on a board by itself, with external connections for power and the two UARTs. And throw in a quadband RFFE and a higher capacity flash+pSRAM chip while at it. 2. Produce a practically usable phone that runs practically free firmware, i.e., fw whose source every user is empowered to study and improve or otherwise modify. Note the emphasis on practical usability. I hear from FR owners that the practical usability of the FR as a phone is rather poor, and because there is absolutely nothing wrong with the modem (hw or fw), the defects in usability must be the result of some flaw(s) in the AP subsystem - a subsystem which from my PoV is nothing but unwanted complexity. And I would never be able to use my FR as a personal phone because it would require running something like QtMoko, and that stuff is far too complex for my old peasant mind. Free software which is far too complex for me to understand and work with comfortably is little different from proprietary sw from the purely practical standpoint - it's a impenetrable black box in practical terms. Therefore, the only way for me to have a practically usable phone that runs practically free firmware is to produce a non-smart phone, a plain phone with no AP subsystem. The long-term solution is to build my own handset hardware, but in the short term it would be OK to use not-quite-fitting but already existing hardware like Pirelli and Motorola phones. 3. Produce a FreeCalypso modem module that could be used in the place of off-the-shelf proprietary ones by free smartphone projects like Neo900. I would like to buy a couple of Neo900 units for two of my family members, but cannot do so for as long as the product includes a modem module from an immoral vendor who withholds source code and documentation and imposes restricted boot barriers to alternative firmware implementations. To the person who emailed me off-list and asked if I could design my FreeCalypso modem in the form factor matching Gemalto's so it could be a drop-in replacement: yes, I still like that idea very much and would like to do it, but I'm unsure whether I can manage such a task by myself, so we may need to work on it together. I also think that it would be easier if I prove my basic design first on a non-form-factor-constrained board, and then go through the form factor gymnastics as a second step. So the above 3 are the overall goals of the FreeCalypso family of projects. Out of those, goal 2 (practically usable non-smart phone running free fw) has been my main focus because it is the one that would improve my own quality of life: I am sick and tired of dealing with Pirelli's proprietary fw (I use a Pirelli DP-L10 as my personal daily phone, running its original proprietary fw as nothing better exists yet - better as in more free *and* practically usable), and I really, really, really want to replace it with my own free firmware. Firmware subproject === The firmware subproject of FreeCalypso is leading up toward an intermediate goal which is not listed among the end g
