[2008.09] resolv.conf
Simple Question Is /etc/resolv.conf still an issue with 2008.09? As far as I'm concerned it is a problem according to a simple Ping, but perhaps I'm wrong with that. Surely to God this should be fix and in the 2008.09 release. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
WIFI Connector Application
Hello all, I'm looking for an application which if it exists great and if it don't exist I'll maybe try and implement it in C, if what I'm thinking is even possible. I've not done too much investigating into Wifi as I believe that it has its issues on the FR. I've not tagged this email [2008.09] or anything. I'm using 2008.09 but I'll use this on any distro if it exists and if it has to be written I don't want to write it for a specific Distro. The FreeRunner as you well know is a very mobile device. Given this mobility the wifi is potentially connecting to different networks all over the place. I'm looking for an application which can scan for wifi networks and compares the available SSIDs to a list of know SSIDs which is stored in? (database/file/whatever) The list of know SSID's should also contain the security details of the Network. Now if the app is started and it finds a know Network it simply connects to that network using the stored security settings. If there is no know network available but there is an open network the App prompts the user to see if they want to connect to an open network. Perhaps in the coffee shop. I don't know if the phone should periodically check for access points or whether it should only connect when prompted. Maybe along the top of the home screen there could be icons for a connectable wifi hotspot. If the user sees that they are connectible then they could start their browser and let it all work. as I say I've not even started looking at FR Wifi as yet as I though there were problems. If the app I'm describing already exists sorry but please direct me. I want WIFI connection not to require the command line. Most people who buy phones will never use a command line ;-) I use Ubuntu on my laptop and every time I go home to the parents place I have to tell Ubuntu to connect to their Wifi. I must have told it a million times ;-) You'd think it would know by now. Actually the App I'm describing could be used on my laptop as well. Two birds... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WIFI Connector Application
Thanks to everybody who relied to this thread you have given my much food for thought. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[2008.09][FSO] Programming interface to wifi Icon
Hello all, Want to play with the wifi icon on the FR either in [2008.09] or [FSO] Perhaps [FSO] makes more sense in the long run. Anyhow can I from a C Program set the icon? And can I have a call back so that Icon being pressed issues a DBUS message? Thanks for any help ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.09][FSO] Programming interface to wifi Icon
Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Tuesday, September 30, 2008 a las 02:38:51PM +0100, Arigead escribió: Hello all, Want to play with the wifi icon on the FR either in [2008.09] or [FSO] Perhaps [FSO] makes more sense in the long run. Anyhow can I from a C Program set the icon? And can I have a call back so that Icon being pressed issues a DBUS message? If you create a file like this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/share/applications# cat Wifi-up.desktop [Desktop Entry] Encoding=UTF-8 Name=Wifi-up Comment=Bring Wifi up with ifup eth0 Exec=xterm -e ifdown eth0 ; iwconfig eth0 txpower auto channel 1 ; killall wpa_supplicant ; killall udhcp ; ifup eth0 ; sleep 20 Icon=wifi Terminal=false Type=Application Categories=Application;Utilities; SingleInstance=true StartupNotify=true the icon will appear and of course you have an action Exec=... matthias Thanks for that Matthias but you misunderstand me. At present the wifi icon, as far as I know, is plain white. I'd like to have three different Icons for the wifi one Red, one Orange/Amber and one Green (Traffic Lights). I'd like to create a daemon in C which every so often did a wee wifi scan to see what networks are out there. If no know wifi SSIDs are available then the icon is red. If I click the Red Wifi Icon I get a list of all the unknown networks and I can select one of them to connect to it if I know the security details. Once connected this info is stored for future. If I'm at my friends house and I am with in range of a known network then the icon is changed to Amber/Orange. This colour could also be used if I'm within range of a free wifi hotspot in a cafe or something. When it's orange the wifi is still not enabled but by looking I can easily see that there is a network available if I want to connect. perhaps I want to save my battery life at the moment. If I click on the amber/orange wifi icon I want to connect to the available network. Once I've connected the icon should go green to indicate that I'm connected and wasting battery. Perhaps clicking on the green icon could give info on the connected network and the option to disconnect. At present i'm just playing with the idea. Things like WIFI Radar and MOFI will currently connect in either a fully automatic way or in a more manual way. I mean by that that wifi radar as far as I know connects a laptop on powerup when it sees a known network. I'm on a mobile device with no battery life. I'd like to be informed via the icon that I can if I want connect but at present i'm not. The C Daemon I'm thinking about might well use MOFI or other python for the User Interface when the icon is selected but the daemon updates the icon. Perhaps if I knew what part of the code is currently controlling the wifi icon I could look at it. Perhaps a traffic light of wifi icons will not be pleasing to the eye but I'd like to find out. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[2008.9] Lock ups
I know that I've email on this subject before but I got no response to my last post, or perhaps it just didn't get through. Regardless of what distro I use my FR is constantly locking up and has to have the battery removed. I tried to communicate with Pulster who supplied the phone but they're not returning my emails on the subject. I'm using [2008.9] at the moment and over the course of a few hours last night using the FR as a phone it locked up 6 times. This morning I have just done a totally clean flash of [2008.9] booted the phone and selected the Dialer App. Phone locked with the '*' in the middle of the screen. I cannot ssh into the phone of course but is there any other way that I can see a log file on the next power up after I pull the battery? Would the debug board enable me to get to the bottom of this? I can't log a bug when I've no idea what is causing the problem. I really love the phone and am committed to it but I want a replacement. There is no way that other people phones are doing this? I've heard loads of people say that they're using the phone as their everyday phone. I'm trying but I'm tired of pulling the battery. I have a 300Yoyo paper weight that looks great! Please help ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.09][FSO] Programming interface to wifi Icon
Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Wednesday, October 01, 2008 a las 08:30:00AM +0100, Arigead escribió: Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Tuesday, September 30, 2008 a las 02:38:51PM +0100, Arigead escribió: Hello all, Want to play with the wifi icon on the FR either in [2008.09] or [FSO] Perhaps [FSO] makes more sense in the long run. Anyhow can I from a C Program set the icon? And can I have a call back so that Icon being pressed issues a DBUS message? If you create a file like this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/share/applications# cat Wifi-up.desktop [Desktop Entry] Encoding=UTF-8 Name=Wifi-up Comment=Bring Wifi up with ifup eth0 Exec=xterm -e ifdown eth0 ; iwconfig eth0 txpower auto channel 1 ; killall wpa_supplicant ; killall udhcp ; ifup eth0 ; sleep 20 Icon=wifi Terminal=false Type=Application Categories=Application;Utilities; SingleInstance=true StartupNotify=true the icon will appear and of course you have an action Exec=... matthias Thanks for that Matthias but you misunderstand me. At present the wifi icon, as far as I know, is plain white. I'd like to have three different Icons for the wifi one Red, one Orange/Amber and one Green (Traffic Lights). I'd like to create a daemon in C which every so often did a wee wifi scan to see what networks are out there. If no know wifi SSIDs are available then the icon is red. ... I think I understood you already in your first post very well; you can change the color or the image of a given icon just be rewriting (from C or shell) the corresponding desktop file and let it point to another icon with Icon=wifiRed or Icon=wifiAmber ... ofc the files 'wifiAmber.png' must exist in /usr/share/pixmaps HIH matthias Ah! Sorry, now I see. Thanks million for that. Back to the play pen. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.09][FSO] Programming interface to wifi Icon
Alastair Johnson wrote: Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Wednesday, October 01, 2008 a las 08:30:00AM +0100, Arigead escribió: Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Tuesday, September 30, 2008 a las 02:38:51PM +0100, Arigead escribió: Hello all, Want to play with the wifi icon on the FR either in [2008.09] or [FSO] Perhaps [FSO] makes more sense in the long run. Anyhow can I from a C Program set the icon? And can I have a call back so that Icon being pressed issues a DBUS message? If you create a file like this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/share/applications# cat Wifi-up.desktop [Desktop Entry] Encoding=UTF-8 Name=Wifi-up Comment=Bring Wifi up with ifup eth0 Exec=xterm -e ifdown eth0 ; iwconfig eth0 txpower auto channel 1 ; killall wpa_supplicant ; killall udhcp ; ifup eth0 ; sleep 20 Icon=wifi Terminal=false Type=Application Categories=Application;Utilities; SingleInstance=true StartupNotify=true the icon will appear and of course you have an action Exec=... matthias Thanks for that Matthias but you misunderstand me. At present the wifi icon, as far as I know, is plain white. I'd like to have three different Icons for the wifi one Red, one Orange/Amber and one Green (Traffic Lights). I'd like to create a daemon in C which every so often did a wee wifi scan to see what networks are out there. If no know wifi SSIDs are available then the icon is red. ... I think I understood you already in your first post very well; you can change the color or the image of a given icon just be rewriting (from C or shell) the corresponding desktop file and let it point to another icon with Icon=wifiRed or Icon=wifiAmber ... ofc the files 'wifiAmber.png' must exist in /usr/share/pixmaps The .desktop file will put an icon in the application launcher. I think the parent is talking about the wifi icon in the illume bar at the top of the screen which is somewhat different. Sorry Yes I would like to use the Icon on the top of the illume bar. I was thinking interfacing this to my daemon so regardless of app you can see the wifi status the same as you can see the GSM status at present. If anybody knows about somewhat different :-) Would this presently be set by Kernel code the Window Manager? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.09][FSO] Programming interface to wifi Icon
Joel Newkirk wrote: On Wed, 01 Oct 2008 14:39:08 +0100, Arigead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry Yes I would like to use the Icon on the top of the illume bar. I was thinking interfacing this to my daemon so regardless of app you can see the wifi status the same as you can see the GSM status at present. If anybody knows about somewhat different :-) Would this presently be set by Kernel code the Window Manager? It's part of the edje setup for the main screen, in illume.edj. (well, that can differ - I've always installed illume-config and illume-config-illume) You can think of the .edj file as a theme package of sorts, although it abstracts more UI handling out of the program than traditional theming. In OO fashion it separates all the user interaction into the edje file, with the main application interacting via signals to change UI or respond to user actions and triggers generated by the UI itself. You can set up in the .edj file to support changing icons triggered by signals from 'outside', and emit signals when some UI interaction (IE, click the icon) takes place. I'm interested in doing something similar with USB, showing whether it's in host or device mode, networking vs mass storage if device mode, sending or expecting power, forcing 500mA or 1000mA charging, and ability to change all the above. The program edje_editor is great for taking a look at such features. It's part of the E17 desktop setup, I've been playing with it in the developer VM I'm working on. It takes the intact .edj file and extracts all the configs, images, etc from it and gives you a nice WYSYWIG GUI editor. BTW - I printed out the actual text config from illume.edj, it's about 100 pages long... A simpler starting point to learn your way around .edj and edje_editor is illume_init.edj, the startup theme. (second view of the boots, with the green scanning back and forth instead of indicating percent progress) It's quite easy to drop in a different background image, redefine the animation, etc this way. (Now what we really need is a tool running ON the FR that decompiles the main .edj file and lets us replace wallpaper, etc - basic customization, not full-on UI redesign work) j Joel you're a star. Thanks a million for your help on this. Your USB version sounds like a great one as well so let us know when you get that done. Be great to click the icon and get the options no fuss. It's the logical place for Info/Feedback/Options. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.09][FSO] Programming interface to wifi Icon
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 11:20:23 -0400 Joel Newkirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Wed, 01 Oct 2008 14:39:08 +0100, Arigead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm baffled. that bar wt the top is always visible - it's not part of your app (and it only is invisible if your app goes fullsreen). note that the icon is entirely part of the theme and may vary based on whatever theme you use. the bar is part of the window manager and its contents are controlled by code running in the wm process (either core or loadable modules). there are no signals for pressing the icon published - it's internal and up to the gadget code for that icon (in e terms it's a gadget). as its tny icon, pressing it is not that useful and so does nothing. The illume-config menu is brought up from a tiny spanner Icon in the drop down menu. I don't see any difference but I'm not forcing anybody to use a particular method. I would agree that there are disadvantages to having the tiny icon used in this way especially if you've got fat fingers. On the other hand given that you've got the space for an icon there all the time why not use it to convey some useful info. Given the size of the screen you can't really expect big icons anyhow. Anyhow I'm just messing with an idea at the moment which may turn out to be a bad idea. It won't be my first but thanks a million for the information anyhow and maybe at some point I'll get this working. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[2008.9]Debugging the FreeRunner Kernel?
Hello all, could anybody shed some light on debugging the FR Kernel. I'm getting constant locks of the phone and I'm trying to get to the source of the problem. Just to go over some stuff that may be important. I did have [2008.9] installed and added some groups to contacts. I then flashed in [FSO] to see if that was any less locky. No luck there so flashed back in [2008.9]. I found I still have some groups that I defined two flashes ago. I didn't expect that. Is there a way to totally wipe the flash to a clear state before I start? Aside from that starting place I've got [2008.9] installed and nothing else. I've only flashed in the images and opkg installed nothing. So it's a clean [2008.9] What I'm doing to lock up the phone is opening contacts and adding contacts. I've never managed to add a third contact before the phone locks up. This does not have to be the contacts application at all. I can lock the phone with generally doing anything I've noticed no pattern. I've changed /etc/syslog.conf so that I'm logging to the uSD card but I can't see a pattern. If I had the debug board would I be able to locate the source of this problem? Can I add: kern.*-/var/log/kern.log to syslog.conf to try focus on the kernel. Does anybody have an opinion that it might not be the kernel? As it happens all the time for various apps I'm assuming that it's something core. Nobody has ever responded to email on this subject so either they're not getting through to the list or nobody is interested. Will somebody please reply so that I can tell it's got to the list and nobody is interested in helping me find my FR's problem. Thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.9]Debugging the FreeRunner Kernel?
Alex Osborne wrote: Helo Arigead, Arigead wrote: Does anybody have an opinion that it might not be the kernel? As it happens all the time for various apps I'm assuming that it's something core. When it locks up, does the device stop responding to ping over USB? That would indicate the whole kernel is getting messed up by the lock ups. Would the debug board enable me to get to the bottom of this? It would probably help to some extent. You could see the kernel messages over the serial console and potentially even inspect what the CPU is doing when it hangs over JTAG. Although if it's a hardware fault, which seems likely if nobody else seems to be experiencing random lockups, I guess it could be really hard to diagnose even with the debug board. Will somebody please reply so that I can tell it's got to the list Your mails are getting to the list. See for example: http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/openmoko-community/2008/10/1/3465464 Cheers, Alex Thanks Alex, I do think it's most likely a HW problem as it's happening in all the Distros. Well I've not really tried with Qtopia to much, would prefer to be using [ASU] or [FSO]. Having said that if I tried Qtopia and it locks then it would suggest it's HW. Anyhow perhaps the only way to go is to get the development board. Even if it is a HW problem it's locking the SW somewhere. I'll try Qtopia over the weekend and try build a SW Image for the FR. I've never built the entire system but I might try and see if I can put in a few judicious Printf's. Problem with printf's or logging is that the code might have passed the printf and lock 20 odd instructions later and you'd not see the printout, depending on the implementation. I don't know how logging is implemented but I'll have a look. Thanks again for getting back to me. Don't know whether to invest more money in the debug board or try get a replacement. It is a challenge though :-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.9] Wifi very unreliable
Steve Mosher wrote: We should allow for links to peoples pages. Hate to throw a spanner in the works but I think ideally the information should be on the wiki and maintained there. How up to date is the info on an external site, if it isn't maintained, or how do you know it is maintained? There is an external link on the GPRS wiki page to a German site for installing the GSM Multiplexor and a GUI. I've been trying to get those instructions to work for the last couple of days. I assume I'm getting something wrong but how can I be sure, given the speed things change in OpenMoko, the instructions still work. Of course I'm talking about the ideal world but I know that the wiki is maintained so I'm more trusting of info there and more likely to bring problems with the info to peoples attention. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[2008.x] GPRS Instructions on the Wiki
Don't want to hijack the thread this stems from Re: [2008.9] Wifi very unreliable but I mentioned there that external links from a wiki might not be the best idea and that I was having problems with external GPRS instructions linked from the relevant wiki page. Continued at the bottom of this: Nishit Dave wrote: On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 1:50 AM, Arigead [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is an external link on the GPRS wiki page to a German site for installing the GSM Multiplexor and a GUI. I've been trying to get those instructions to work for the last couple of days. I assume I'm getting something wrong but how can I be sure, given the speed things change in OpenMoko, the instructions still work. I was able to get them to work, and the Services GUI was quite handy. However, I switched over to Qtextended last weekend. Have you installed all dependencies? Where is it that you have a problem exactly? From a clean flash of a 2008 Daily from last week: Om2008.8-gta02-20080903.uImage.bin Om2008.8-gta02-20081007.rootfs.jffs2 And executing the commands echo nameserver 208.67.222.222 /etc/resolv.conf echo nameserver 208.67.220.220 /etc/resolv.conf echo arch base 50 /etc/opkg/angstrom-feed.conf echo src/gz base http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv opkg update opkg install gpsd opkg install gsm0710muxd Results in the following error message which is probably where I'm having problems. #opkg install gsm0710muxd Installing gsm0710muxd (0.9.1+r0-gitr3ff86b129640b647ccba3d86eb243d864671b039-r0) to root... Downloading http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/gsm0710muxd_0.9.1+r0-gitr3ff86b129640b647ccba3d86eb243d864671b039-r0_armv4t.ipk Upgrading libdbus-glib-1-2 on root from 0.74-r0 to 0.76-r0... Downloading http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/libdbus-glib-1-2_0.76-r0_armv4t.ipk Installing libgobject-2.0-0 (2.18.1-r0) to root... Downloading http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/libgobject-2.0-0_2.18.1-r0_armv4t.ipk Configuring libdbus-glib-1-2 Collected errors: * Package libgobject-2.0-0 wants to install file /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 But that file is already provided by package * libglib-2.0-0 Maybe the above is not a problem but if you've any advice I'll be very happy to get it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FBReader now working on the FreeRunner
Michael Sheldon wrote: Pupino wrote: 2008/10/12 Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Giovanni wrote: Does it also work on OM2007.2? Probably, assuming all the dependancies are available (which from memory I think they are). Give it a try and let me know ;). Cheers, Mike. On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 9:22 PM, Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've just spent the day hacking on FBReader to make it work correctly under OpenMoko (OM2008.*). Until now it's been pretty much unusable due to the GPE version of FBReader expecting you to be using a device that has some physical buttons which then get bound to vital functions like turning the page. The changes I've made are as follows: * Add scroll forward/backward buttons to the toolbar * Add fullscreen mode button to the toolbar (doesn't have an icon at the moment, it's the third button from the right) * Change fullscreen mode so that it doesn't hide the toolbar (otherwise there's no way to get back from fullscreen mode) * Switch to using the much prettier blue tango icons * Make the line separation larger so the text doesn't overlap * Reduce the font size * Change the default colours to match openmoko's colour scheme better (and so it's a little easier on the eyes) And most importantly… * Make it so that tapping the sides of the screen turns the book's pages (left = backwards, right = forwards) Here's a screenshot of what it used to look like: http://blog.mikeasoft.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/fbreader-orig.png And what it looks like with my patches: http://blog.mikeasoft.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/fbreader-openmoko.png To install it simply run: opkg install http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/enca_1.9-r3_armv4t.ipk http://mikeasoft.com/%7Emike/openmoko/enca_1.9-r3_armv4t.ipk http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/fbreader_0.8.2a-r6+elleopatches_om-gta02.ipk http://mikeasoft.com/%7Emike/openmoko/fbreader_0.8.2a-r6+elleopatches_om-gta02.ipk (all on one line) For those interested the patch can also be downloaded from http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/fbreader-openmoko.patch http://mikeasoft.com/%7Emike/openmoko/fbreader-openmoko.patch. Bonus points for anyone who knows what book I'm testing it with in the screenshots (without googling) ;). Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Nice work! thank you! the book is into the wild? well the film had that name, maybe the book has a different one? Nope, *much* older book, good guess though :) Mike. I've a few days email on this list to catch up on so I'm sure you've got the answer to the book but I think I'll have a guess anyhow. Can't spell the name or give you the correct title of the book but you might know what I mean. The book is called either Walden or Walden pond? and it was written by Theareau? Does that make any sense? Good book if it's the one I think it is. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.x] GPRS Instructions on the Wiki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Benedikt Schindler wrote: Arigead schrieb: [...] From a clean flash of a 2008 Daily from last week: Om2008.8-gta02-20080903.uImage.bin Om2008.8-gta02-20081007.rootfs.jffs2 And executing the commands echo nameserver 208.67.222.222 /etc/resolv.conf echo nameserver 208.67.220.220 /etc/resolv.conf echo arch base 50 /etc/opkg/angstrom-feed.conf echo src/gz base http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv opkg update opkg install gpsd opkg install gsm0710muxd [...] try not to add the hole repositorie. just make a opkg install http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/gsm0710muxd_0.9.1+r0-gitr3ff86b129640b647ccba3d86eb243d864671b039-r0_armv4t.ipk Ok that opkg install command you gave me won't install due to the dependencies so I went to the pages mentioned in GPRS on the wiki to pull in those. Now for the life of me I can't remember if the [2008.*] FR is using uClibc or glibc. I know I should know this already but don't and can't see it mentioned anywhere. Asked on #openmoko but got no response. Anybody know which packages I should install? I looked in /etc/opkg/arch.conf but no indication. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFI9f5tXlbjSJ5n4BARAkUqAJ9NRcNXeq6a/xU9Tzs8DlqmH0RaNACeJrgu uY20sVS8bI25BRVtLyjAHOE= =AJW1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.x] GPRS Instructions on the Wiki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sarton O'Brien wrote: On Wednesday 15 October 2008 00:54:45 Arigead wrote: Configuring libdbus-glib-1-2 Collected errors: * Package libgobject-2.0-0 wants to install file /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 But that file is already provided by package * libglib-2.0-0 Maybe the above is not a problem but if you've any advice I'll be very happy to get it opkg -force-depends remove libglib-2.0-0 opkg install libgobject-2.0-0 And if it doesn't pull libglib back in: opkg install libglib-2.0-0 From memory, after the first two commands, it should sort itself out. As long as you put back what gets removed, all should be well. Sarton Thanks a million I've gotten gsm0710muxd in now anyhow. Thanks for those two lines. I'll go through the rest of the instructions and edit the wiki page when I get to the end of this. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFI9gurXlbjSJ5n4BARAqB7AJ98IKCjVwSIR+WsQ2ljxBUS/sHm2gCgnN9z +DwxBe2KSzoQTfb6FNBGCXE= =R+42 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.x] GPRS Instructions on the Wiki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joel Newkirk wrote: On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:54:45 +0100, Arigead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't want to hijack the thread this stems from Re: [2008.9] Wifi very unreliable but I mentioned there that external links from a wiki might not be the best idea and that I was having problems with external GPRS instructions linked from the relevant wiki page. Continued at the bottom of this: Nishit Dave wrote: On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 1:50 AM, Arigead [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is an external link on the GPRS wiki page to a German site for installing the GSM Multiplexor and a GUI. I've been trying to get those instructions to work for the last couple of days. I assume I'm Just a note on this. I've followed this (altered slightly as noted on the Wiki itself) several times successfully, several images. About a month ago the mokoservicescripts.tar.gz file vanished, but a link later in the thread pointed to a mirror, where mokoscripts_r.tar.gz was available, same content. But now that mirror is gone as well it seems. If anyone wants the file and can't find it elsewhere, I've got it at http://newkirk.us/om/mokoscripts_r.tar.gz. (I ended up stuffing that and a few other non-feed items in that folder and installing from a script whenever I reflashed) Thankfully that is unnecessary with frameworkd running the show. I'm dual-booting right now between 2008.8u and Raster+FSO, and I love where things are going. FSO includes the multiplexer and a complete dbus interface to it all, so that I can start up GPRS with just mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.frameworkd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.PDP.ActivateContext internet3.voicestream.com x x out of the box, no configuration or headache, while GSM.PDP.DeactivateContext brings it back down. j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Wiki Instructions: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPRS#Option_1:_With_GSM_multiplexing_and_with_a_GUI Finally got this GPRS sort of working :-) I put together a shell script of the steps I've taken to get this far. A lot of issues I had involved installing from various repositories. I basically add the angstrom repository for gsm0710muxd and then remove it again for all the rest. Now I can do a gprson and gprsoff and I get a connection but the service GUI does not open and just pops up an error screen and states that it's writing a log file to /home/root/Services.log but it does not do that at all. I can't see an error message on logread either. I might look into it but I'm just happy to have an IP address and I'll rig up a desktop file for gprson and gprsoff Thanks for all your pointers along the way -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFI/atsXlbjSJ5n4BARAmFhAKCYbX91Ja42aTR42QrAoIvgg/l57wCgytNW zwXg6fbZK8kGD3TrjTJZ5KE= =2n+j -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FSO] GSM Radar/AT Commands
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello All, I'm living in the land that mobile phone coverage forgot and thinking of how to improve my sorry situation. Before I go down the route of putting a GSM Antenna on top of the house and having a cable connected to my FreeRunner I thought I'd check out the other 2 GSM operators in my area and see what the signal strength is for them. Now my Nokia phone will not permit me to connect to a non vodafone signal so I've no idea how strong it is using the nokia. I'm not using the FR as a daily phone as yet but thought I could simply use an AT command to do a quick check on the various signal strengths. I tried AT+WS46=? but it has not come back to me and just hangs there. Does anybody, with better knowledge of AT commands then me, know of a likely command or if this is even possible. I was hoping that if I could find a stronger signal in my area I'd just change operator. Thanks in advance for any help -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJCFdSXlbjSJ5n4BARAj5IAKDL+fgq2O/tAD48qAUgUM2MEfY1KwCeNjtM t44b7a0vvmhu6SHiNXpXNKo= =+Adk -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] GSM Radar/AT Commands
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alastair Johnson wrote: Arigead wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello All, I'm living in the land that mobile phone coverage forgot and thinking of how to improve my sorry situation. Before I go down the route of putting a GSM Antenna on top of the house and having a cable connected to my FreeRunner I thought I'd check out the other 2 GSM operators in my area and see what the signal strength is for them. Now my Nokia phone will not permit me to connect to a non vodafone signal so I've no idea how strong it is using the nokia. I'm not using the FR as a daily phone as yet but thought I could simply use an AT command to do a quick check on the various signal strengths. I tried AT+WS46=? but it has not come back to me and just hangs there. Does anybody, with better knowledge of AT commands then me, know of a likely command or if this is even possible. I was hoping that if I could find a stronger signal in my area I'd just change operator. AT+COPS=? will list the visible providers, but not their signal strengths. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Thanks for that. Yes I can confirm than AT+COPS=? lists the operators in the area but according to the data returned they are forbidden networks so I can't temporarily connect to them, and then use CSQ to get the signal strength. Such is life. Thanks for your help though. If fso has this stuff built in I missed it when searching. I'll look on the wiki again. Given that the networks are forbidden don't think there's much can be done. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJCHjuXlbjSJ5n4BARAqKKAJ0eeEAbsFX/T0/CjJBBAG8Bhd+VLQCgonDZ 2lGAQ3AqHAiiuyg2wNR0J8M= =RN1y -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FSO M4] Where is it?
I can't seem to find a link to download the images (kernel File System) of FSO Milestone 4 either on the openmoko wiki pages or on freesmartphone wiki either. Does this have to be built from scratch or are there pre-built images? Thanks for any help ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there any kind of network manager?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joel Newkirk wrote: On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 02:58:48 +0100, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alastair Johnson wrote: Or you could follow Joel Newkirk's simple lightweight configuration described at http://jthinks.com/better-freerunner-networking About this... Have you tried it? Does it fix the most common network issues? Thanks... It's more of an 'anti-network-manager' - it's strictly intended as sane defaults that let networking run more smoothly when various interfaces come and go. GPRS configuration/activation/deactivation is outside its scope, same for WiFi. It utilizes resolvconf, and supports local DNS caching if desired. It consists of a few alterations and additions to ppp, udhcpc, resolvconf, udev and general network config. Manual network config needs to work with resolvconf and observe appropriate route metrics, nothing more. (wifi 20, USB 30, GPRS 40) What it's intended to do: Prioritize default routes and DNS so that traffic will always use WiFi if it's available, USBnet if there's no wifi but we're tethered, and gprs if there's no usb. Doesn't matter if more than one interface is up, they don't change each other's DNS or gateway settings or anything. (It also should deal with usb-attached ethernet or wifi, prioritized between onboard wifi and usb, but it knows nothing of VPN or Bluetooth - enfolding Bluetooth and 3G/other usb-based devices is pretty simple, VPN potentially less so) Frameworkd already offers gprs up/down support, wifi is on the schedule. Once network status/control is more solid under frameworkd I suspect a network manager may be rather straightforward to code. Edje GUI with a fairly thin middle layer talking to dbus. Until then, I've installed my netfix-j2.tar.gz fixes (plus resolvconf when not preinstalled - the tarball includes missing files from resolvconf) on 2008.x, FSO, Raster, and SHR, set up a desktop icon on each to toggle GPRS, another to toggle wifi (ifup/ifdown in a simple script, with my prewritten wpa_supplicant.conf that talks to my home WPA, work WPA, jobsites, and open public wifi in that priority) and it 'just works'. My opinion is that the only network manager-ish features we actually need on the FreeRunner are status information, configuration and toggling of GPRS and VPNs, and as full-featured wifi detecting/tracking/remembering as we can get. (I want to be able to query a list of previously-seen usable wifi within 1/4 mile, for instance) I tend to think purpose-built instead of off-the-shelf for this. j Been thinking about this subject recently as I started messing with GPRS connections on FSO. Network management on the FR is one thing, but adding a connected device is a mental mess, (for me anyhow). If I'm connected, via a USB cable, to an eeePC then sometimes I want the eeePC to be my router and forward from the FR to the world via its Network connection and sometimes I want to use the FR as a Router and forward traffic from the eeePC. Have to reconfigure both devices when you switch between the two modes of opperation. Not sure how you'd automate this without creating a security issue. I shall for the time being minimise my messing ;-) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJKtGKXlbjSJ5n4BARAiXsAKCyw2eVJn2n3GHwTk3viHgS9NGILgCeNdFz H4RYCO1YPAG2yUbuKld3zJQ= =gxmN -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FSO ms4] GPRS problem on one network
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello all, messing about with FSO ms4 and I have a wee problem related to GPRS. Not sure if it's a bug, and if it is where it should be logged. It's a bug to me but my bug might be somebody else's feature. I'm connecting to GPRS using the script: #!/bin/sh APN=MyAP USERNAME=myUsername PASSWORD=myPassword BUSNAME=org.freesmartphone.frameworkd OBJECTPATH=/org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device METHODNAME=org.freesmartphone.GSM.PDP.ActivateContext mdbus -s $BUSNAME $OBJECTPATH $METHODNAME $APN $USERNAME $PASSWORD I've got two sim cards on the Irish network and one works the other don't. The two APs are: APN=isp.vodafone.ie APN=open.internet The vodafone gprs works a charm but the O2 AP gives me an error message when I execute the script: Error while evaluating 'open.internet': 'builtin_function_or_method' object has no attribute 'internet' I've gone over this and can't see that I've made a typo. I'm sorry I've not looked into the code or anything as yet. I've not had a chance. Any thoughts on this? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJLVijXlbjSJ5n4BARAsjTAJ4yVhd/wTPfyGb0dV+RhaHhlWYQBQCgqYRg fjeZYTxHhV7rKMN8K2XCCf8= =Gt1U -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO ms4] GPRS problem on one network
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stefan Schmidt wrote: Hello. On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 14:09, Arigead wrote: mdbus -s $BUSNAME $OBJECTPATH $METHODNAME $APN $USERNAME $PASSWORD APN=isp.vodafone.ie APN=open.internet The vodafone gprs works a charm but the O2 AP gives me an error message when I execute the script: Error while evaluating 'open.internet': 'builtin_function_or_method' object has no attribute 'internet' Nice finding! The problem here is that mdbus makes an eval on these to avoid the need to set a type explicit. (Seems with this setup we need to think about changing this) Can you please try it with this? uopen.internet This explicit sets the type and therefor should work around it. Cheers Stefan, that worked, in so far as it got rid of the error message. It didn't establish a connection but that might be down to me not having any money in the account ;-( I'll find out and confirm that it all works. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJLXs4XlbjSJ5n4BARApLCAJ0XVuZZFJ6BkwzQijpTRQ9S6SkHrACfRg7w 6X/fdFPnw0S91st/MDIah0o= =cYeF -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FSO ms4] Settings?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello All, perhaps I've missed an email on this but I've noticed that the spanner/wrench settings in FSO ms 4 have no effect. I've not tested all settings but some I've tested don't appear to work like the power setting to change the phone suspending. Can't seem to find a GUI for setting the time either has this been removed. I can use the command line of course but just wondering why it would have been removed. Granny don't do bash ;-) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJMAuEXlbjSJ5n4BARArg9AJ44dtdO9tnGd+LxB1zUMrIpzfb5wgCfVqJd 31MplFmU8l6K7mrIkRqtf/Y= =22hg -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FSO ms4] Operator SMS Message problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello all, this problem arises from another thread that I started [FSO ms4] GPRS problem on one network where I'm having problems establishing a GPRS connection to one of the Irish Operators. This problem is not related but found it along the way. I thought at one point that I might be out of credit so was trying to check that I had money in the account to rule that out of the GPRS issue. To try and check my credit I tried to register my phone with the o2.ie web site. Registering the account is a simple process of putting your gsm phone number into a web page, O2 then send an SMS message to that number with a code which you then enter on the web page and that's pretty much it. You then just enter you details. I was typing in my O2 phone number but was not receiving any SMS message. I then pulled the O2 Sim out of the FR and popped it into the old Nokia, filled in the web page again with my phone number and almost instantly the Nokia received a SMS message from the operator. The source number of the SMS message is 00 Ten zeros if my typing is correct. My queston is is this something that would be worth looking into? I obviously can't re-register the SIM again but if it is worth looking into I could get another SIM and try again and this time have a look at logread. What can I say I wasn't thinking straight the first time. I never suspected that the phone could be at fault. Must read the jokes page again ;-) Let me know if it's of any interest to solve or if it's already a known issue. Don't remember this problem being reported but there's been so many ;-) I'd be happy to help in testing in so far as I can. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJMD/hXlbjSJ5n4BARAhjiAKCZIAMIPULRXdI3IqW5I4w118dZdQCgzGpy ik8rJ0QB/IGG5tVRQIMPKWc= =IMkx -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Funding Global Domination
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello All, The UK Distributor recently posted up a price update as a Tax has been reduced there. The post mentioned Christmas presents which got me thinking. I'm very concious of the new waters that OpenMoko are charting, by producing a high volume OpenSource Hardware device. I'm also concious of the fact that they'll maybe need some of my money to fund their design and development, of new platforms/toys for me. Unfortunately even when the GTA03 comes out I'll probably not be able to justify another phone. I recently bought an Ubuntu T-Shirt and was thinking that if OpenMoko could throw together a simple design and people were interested in a quality garment at the price that's right??? Just a thought and perhaps a bit late for Christmas. I wonder would people be interested? Maybe if a few hundred people respond to this email that would be a heavy load on this mailing list, so DON'T ;-) but perhaps there would be some other way of gauging people's interest? Could somebody official in OpenMoko respond to this email and perhaps indicate whether the company would be interested in this idea and perhaps some way of gauging if the community is interested? Perhaps somebody in the Community could design a cool subtle OpenMoko garment? Just a thought. They can't all be good ones! ;-) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJNd9uXlbjSJ5n4BARApTtAKCjuDECS84iP4L+dbZ4wpViUvhhyQCfQoJy PBp5JCo+LFtUAkidLeOxM7Y= =ISz4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Funding Global Domination
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Minh Ha Duong wrote: Le mercredi 03 décembre 2008, arne anka a écrit : The second option is more like it. It takes a few hours to design a T-Shirt and upload it to an online store where everybody else can go and buy it. So just do it: the entry costs are so low that there is no real need for a formal market study ! There may be trademark issues, better clear that with OpenMoko first! not only that. didn't the op intend to propose a way for _openmoko_ to earn more money? while anybody might donate artwork, the actual distribution has to be done on behalf of openmoko -- or more reasonably by openmoko itself. Rui: There are lots of cool artwork under a Cc: license on the wiki including the hardware schematics and : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Desktop_wallpaper_gallery Copyright are not an issue, please. No company will give you a blanket agreement to use their name as you please in any derivative product, but no company will deny fans the right to make T-Shirts with their name on it, if you show them specific T-Shirts design. Arne: OpenMoko made it clear that they were not into selling derived products (I can't bother to find the post, that was a few months ago.). Cordially, Minh Thanks for the info all, as Arne correctly spotted I was only interested in helping fund global domination, which does not come for free. I can design my own T Shirt and have it made but benefit to OM = Zero. Not interested in this at all. If OM have made it clear they are not into derived products then that answers the question I asked and the subject is closed. Thanks again, like I say not all ideas can be winners ;-) or should that be :-( -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD4DBQFJNx0BXlbjSJ5n4BARAgjEAJix4AGF62tVkHobyMQIyewOl4V5AJ413rCM 1vkAfFjDqFaBnLlHM1/vgw== =GJi2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Funding Global Domination Mk II The Console
Sorry about this but I had another thought on this subject after the T-Shirt thread. This one might be a bit less easy ;-) Hats off to OM for producing Open Hardware for programmers to create their ideas on. It's has been a noble effort and I hope it continues. I was thinking that the choice of Open Platform (Mobile Phone) was perhaps one of the most difficult choices that they could have made as very little Open software existed out there when they started. There are a lot of imaginative people in the community and in the fullness of time this is going to be brilliant. I was thinking that one possible area where an open platform is needed is The Console. I've heard of a lot of people getting the original Microsoft xBox to hack it so that they can run unsigned code in the box. They then run XBMC in it. It seems such a shame that you have to buy a M$ games console to run an open source Media Centre. Along the same lines a few years ago I spent months trying get MythTV running in an old Desktop to enable me to record TV. What can I say I never quite made it. Now to my knowledge the original xBox was not too far removed from a regular PC in nice plastics. It had TV out instead of a regular monitor connection. That is perhaps an an area of difficulty as perhaps different countries run different TV protocols. Anyhow some day I'd like to put together some hardware that could run MythTV, XBMC maybe have a huge Terabyte of storage and act as a file server as well. Maybe it could run Linux games as well and various emulators. Yes what Linux games ;-) So you'd have a PC Motherboard, TV out don't know what standard. Do all modern TV's take the same digital connection all over the world? Then you'll have a TV in signal for recording TV. Again I've no idea if that would mean different hardware all over the world. Ethernet, USB, Remote control. Nice plastics. A few companies have toyed with the idea of producing Open Console but to my knowledge nobody has ever really done it well. Yes there are various communities out there and that if anything shows that there has always been this need. The last thing I'd want is for OM to dilute their effort on the FR but maybe someday they could become the name in OpenHardware. OpenMoko Purveyors of OpenHardware since the start of the new millennium ;-) Maybe I should join the Open Game Console Consortium and get some hardware specs and put my own console together that might take some time so if OM beat me to it I'll certainly buy their kit again. Later ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Funding Global Domination
Helge Hafting wrote: Arigead wrote: [...] Thanks for the info all, as Arne correctly spotted I was only interested in helping fund global domination, which does not come for free. I can design my own T Shirt and have it made but benefit to OM = Zero. Not interested in this at all. If OM have made it clear they are not into derived products then that answers the question I asked and the subject is closed. There is always the benefit of free marketing, when someone wear a shirt with openmoko or similiar on it. They may sell more phones. Or you could sell T-shirts, and collect some money to fund a developer for some time. Better software gives more sales. There are other ways of support than direct money transfer, if you're interested. Helge Hafting Don't rate my chances of selling T-Shirts Helge ;-) I'm a programmer of sorts but my hands have been sort of tied by my use of a eeePC 700. 8Gig ain't a lot to play with. Yesterday I finally got my new eeePC 1000 so I've got enough memory to make a stab at some coding. All I have to do is learn how to build the Kernel and FSO and I'm away. I'm leaving T-Shirts to the experts, but I'll be happy to buy the good ones. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OMoney Milestone 1
Thomas Bumbl wrote: What do I want from you? * Feedback:Do you like the app or do you think the author has gone round the bend? What could be improved? Features you would like to see? How could one display the history more efficiently? * Patches:If you think a part of code is inefficient, too unflexible, incomplete, buggy, etc feel free to contribute a patch. Be kind, this is my first application with GUI Firstly you beat me to it ;-) this was one of two apps that I wanted in my phone and I started on the other one so now I get to use yours for expenses. I've only just installed it in fso m4 but I'll have more detailed look at it later on this evening and get back to you on it. In the mean time one thing that I'd really like is a smart phone, and I'd like your app to take advantage of the smarts. This is not really to do with your app as such but the FSO. I think it'd be as cool as if there was a project working on Context in the FSO and some app in which you could specify a new context based on gps coordinates, or wifi coverage, or whatever. I'm dull as and there are only so many places that I eat lunch when I'm at work. Given that fact your app should not have to ask me where I'm spending money. If I'm at the same co-ordinates that I spent my money twice last week it should have a fair idea that I'm in the cafe by the river. I'd not like to look at the history on the phone as even on that great screen I think you're on a hiding to nothing ;-) Create an app that will sit on the desktop and display you history in any number of ways. Use the FR for inputing the data on the spot and maybe give a summary on the phone but allow the user to really interrogate the data on the desktop. Maybe I'm getting even more anal in my old age but for some reason I wanted to have the FR recording my expenses in the coming year so that at the end of 2009 I could simply query how much did I spend in coffee last year? OK I AM getting more anal ;-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Persistent Personal Names for Globally Connected Mobile Devices - was openmoko as a ipv6 router
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marc Manthey wrote: i want to use bonjour or avahi for my project BUT Avahi does not implement this functionallity yet, -- On Linux (at least on Debian), you need the mDNSResponder package provided by Apple on the Bonjour downloads page. Unfortunately, Avahi_doesn't_yet implement_all_of_the_API_functions_you will need !!! -- SO i have two choices, use apple OR implement it into avahi, but there is no interest from the avahi developer site so i am not sure what todo right now. Ok, this seems to be way beyond my expertise. So - I'm sorry, I can't help you decide this. and noone from nearly 2000 peoples on this list could give me a hint or idea what the more feasable way ? Persistent Personal Names for Globally Connected Mobile Devices http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/papers/uia:osdi06.pdf No idea about avahi at all and only looked into it when I read your email here. It does look interesting though. I've no time at the moment to look at it but I have started a project in work which uses JXTA, same same but different. There is a C Implementation of the protocols so I might be able to get it running on the FR. I'm as yet in the early stages and can't for the life of me see why I would compile it in though ;-) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJQnjGXlbjSJ5n4BARAjIDAJ93k1EmasOUrmA52qFrR16ymZULeQCeNnNm DCDVqVAZrScJ2ovTqlsfOcU= =f8Wn -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FSO] Building
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, got my development machine now working and have build both the kernel following Toolchain [1] and build the fso-image using the manual section of [2], which points to the oe page [3]. As per [3] I got the openembedded with a git checkout git clone git://git.openembedded.net/openembedded I have two questions about all this. I've downloaded the above openembedded repository. and it builds fine. But is there a more up-to-date open moko repository? I know that the web page [3] states: If you want to build FSO's unstable branch then include the following two lines at the end of local.conf: require conf/distro/include/fso-autorev.inc require conf/distro/include/moko-autorev.inc Is that all I need to do. Sounds so simple ;-) My other question is that I built the kernel using toolchain [1] instructions and my bitbake fso-image also built the kernel. I assume that I can use the toolchain produced kernel and the bitbake produced filesystem. Can I tell Bitbake not to waste it's time building the kernel? Thanks for any pointers [1]http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain#Building_Openmoko_Kernel_from_git_repo_using_Toolchain [2] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Building_FSO [3] http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Getting_Started -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJR9YVXlbjSJ5n4BARApt7AJ9XQ+3fmbD+hOmp8ZYLxYrhCZwGDgCgw7sA DVwboh5LnHfRBw+9zJlEYUI= =sYHw -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FSO] GPRS Problems LCP TermReq
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've got a problem with a GPRS connection to one of the operators here. Vodafone works great but my O2 connection logs and gives me CHAP authentication succeeded. Further on in the handshaking the network sends me a LCP TermReq Does anybody here have any idea what the problem might be. I thought that when CHAP was happy we were flying. I've included the log from CHAP success to termination. The FATAL error messages do not appear to be a problem as they also appear in the vodafone log which does work, by the way. Everything else is as it appears in a vodafone log except for the terminate request of course ;-) Thanks in advance for any guidance. daemon.debug pppd[1375]: rcvd [CHAP Success id=0x1 ] daemon.info pppd[1375]: CHAP authentication succeeded daemon.notice modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting ppp_mppe (/lib/modules/2.6.24/kernel/drivers/net/ppp_mppe.ko): No such device user.info kernel: PPP Deflate Compression module registered daemon.notice modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting ppp_mppe (/lib/modules/2.6.24/kernel/drivers/net/ppp_mppe.ko): No such device daemon.notice modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting ppp_mppe (/lib/modules/2.6.24/kernel/drivers/net/ppp_mppe.ko): No such device daemon.debug pppd[1375]: sent [CCP ConfReq id=0x1 deflate 15 deflate(old#) 15] daemon.debug pppd[1375]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 addr 0.0.0.0 ms-dns1 0.0.0.0 ms-dns3 0.0.0.0] daemon.debug pppd[1375]: rcvd [LCP ProtRej id=0x1 80 fd 01 01 00 0c 1a 04 78 00 18 04 78 00] daemon.debug pppd[1375]: rcvd [LCP TermReq id=0x1 0b 21] daemon.info pppd[1375]: LCP terminated by peer (^K!) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJSQMOXlbjSJ5n4BARAo5oAJ0b4yhuG6TH+8He8bkFod4AoQKRuwCghZdr zvsNRZMgxn59YQhOTi+y7XU= =WSyp -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] Building
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Am Tuesday 16 December 2008 17:23:49 schrieb Arigead: My other question is that I built the kernel using toolchain [1] instructions and my bitbake fso-image also built the kernel. I assume that I can use the toolchain produced kernel and the bitbake produced filesystem. Can I tell Bitbake not to waste it's time building the kernel? Try adding ASSUME_PROVIDED += virtual/kernel or ASSUME_PROVIDED += linux-openmoko to your local.conf. If it goes through (might not work because of missing module packages), you will have missing modules in your rootfs though. (Nearby: A kernel build is quick... I would just let bitbake build it. You don't have to use it) Thanks for the advice I'll just let bitbake build it then. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJSQQnXlbjSJ5n4BARAqxgAJ9maLzVPYZf7bioAsnQi/fePnzvIwCdH9x8 BclFxqWiuyEBwhNRExUr9kw= =ENpM -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FSO] Building FSO with OpenEmbedded
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello all, just tried to build FSO manually with OE and it failed on one of the packages: NOTE: package linux-openmoko-2.6.28-2.6.28-oe1+gitr34240a1c06ae36180dee695aa25bbae869b2aa26-r2: task do_fetch: failed I've been trying a few times over the last week and always seem to fail on one package. It's a pain in the as this build takes a bit of time, especially on my eeePC. It's got a dual core Atom processor so I must work out to switch on the multiprocessing in OE. Apart from the problems I'd like to ask about Building FSO and OE. I've used OE before on Gumstix, but I'm by no means an expert at all. I do however like some of the things in the Gumstix use of OE. As far as I understand it the openembedded directory contains the various recipes to download, apply packages, and build packages. In the Gumstix development env there are three directories containing package recipes. The bbpath variable is used to give the three priority. User recipes have priority over Gumstix recipes, which have priority over OpenEmbedded recipes. All this means is that if I define a recipe for a package it will be used ahead of either of the others. currently in the openembedded tree there are a few FSO recipes. I'm trying to build fso-image which I want build and then change it to build andy tracking kernel as the prefered supplier. I'd like to run the latest testing of FSO to do a bit of testing and work on. One package to go. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkl0x4YACgkQXlbjSJ5n4BCTHACeK8Kb2fRBtTr5Fg/icunEftZm K/UAn3QSnw9ff61blPh6/JfdSCPmOXQl =W1FE -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: what tests for (non working) 3G SIM?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Syntichakis wrote: Hi, As I see the SIM from 3mobile (UK) is not working with the GTA02v6 (running SHR unstable). Should I run any debugging tests (just for your info..)? If so, what can I do? Chris 3mobile Ireland SIM doesn't work in the GTA02v05 either. Haven't had a chance to look into it. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkl/GLQACgkQXlbjSJ5n4BDU6wCghFfOp4GoRVJXL++EgY65M0W0 ea0AoNxKMKVvi+kd5F4+C5nWjuX9WWCF =NRjg -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: what tests for (non working) 3G SIM?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sargun Dhillon wrote: When reporting broken 3G SIMs please give us the output of: r...@om-gta02:~# cat /dev/ttySAC0 r...@om-gta02:~# echo -en 'AT\r' /dev/ttySAC0 r...@om-gta02:~# echo -en 'AT+CGMR\r' /dev/ttySAC0 +CGMR: HW: GTA, GSM: gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal_amd8_ts0-Moko10 r...@om-gta02:~# kill %1 -Thanks Sorry I should have said my phone is a bit confused and the command cat /dev/ttySAC0 returns immediately as done so there is no output from the other echo commands. I'll reflash the phone and see if I can get some sense out of it. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmAI+IACgkQXlbjSJ5n4BCo/gCfXrAOFKIKYe0Q39tzBo9ej8Eu QsEAoMI4RnhEDW5nHEeOGNU4drdR6Ibd =3MNb -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: what tests for (non working) 3G SIM?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sargun Dhillon wrote: This assumes you've turned on your modem already... A bit more detail: kill -9 `ls -l1d /proc/*/fd/*|grep ttySAC0|cut -f3 -d/|grep -v self` echo 0 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on echo 1 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on #Yes, do it twice... Ignore errors you see on the GUI... kill -9 `ls -l1d /proc/*/fd/*|grep ttySAC0|cut -f3 -d/|grep -v self` echo 0 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on echo 1 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on cat /dev/ttySAC0 echo -en 'AT\r' /dev/ttySAC0 echo -en 'AT+CGMR\r' /dev/ttySAC0 kill %1 #paste ALL of the output of this when you send an e-mail complaining about GSM firmware issues. Hello again, modem is turned on and connected to another network. Don't have the 3mobile sim on me at present. So modem is on and I've tried the commands you gave me but still no joy. I'll attach the output anyhow. Please if you feel that I'm complaining about this issue then ignore this problem. Somebody rose it as an issue and I merely wanted to corroborate that problem exists. r...@om-gta02:~# kill -9 `ls -l1d /proc/*/fd/*|grep ttySAC0|cut -f3 - -d/|grep -v self` ls: /proc/1364/fd/8: No such file or directory ls: /proc/1401/fd/3: No such file or directory ls: /proc/1401/fd/4: No such file or directory ls: /proc/1401/fd/6: No such file or directory ls: /proc/1402/fd/10: No such file or directory ls: /proc/1402/fd/3: No such file or directory ls: /proc/1402/fd/4: No such file or directory ls: /proc/self/fd/10: No such file or directory ls: /proc/self/fd/3: No such file or directory ls: /proc/self/fd/4: No such file or directory r...@om-gta02:~# echo 0 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on r...@om-gta02:~# echo 0 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on r...@om-gta02:~# echo 1 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on r...@om-gta02:~# kill -9 `ls -l1d /proc/*/fd/*|grep ttySAC0|cut -f3 - -d/|grep -v self` ls: /proc/1411/fd/3: No such file or directory ls: /proc/1411/fd/4: No such file or directory ls: /proc/1411/fd/6: No such file or directory ls: /proc/1412/fd/10: No such file or directory ls: /proc/1412/fd/3: No such file or directory ls: /proc/1412/fd/4: No such file or directory ls: /proc/self/fd/10: No such file or directory ls: /proc/self/fd/3: No such file or directory ls: /proc/self/fd/4: No such file or directory r...@om-gta02:~# echo 0 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on r...@om-gta02:~# echo 1 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on r...@om-gta02:~# cat /dev/ttySAC0 [1] + Done cat /dev/ttySAC0 r...@om-gta02:~# -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmAZBIACgkQXlbjSJ5n4BB8ngCgzRyoXTXH+mSFDsUU3YVIQAC8 JTMAoNJwJhvXescwmAQvtyTBo4G8xQdE =cJkJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO M5] Paroli-Apps crash with 'Screen' object has no attribute 'etk_obj
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mirko Lindner wrote: Hi, The paroli version used in MS5 seems very very old (in paroli terms) I will try to get it updated. /mirko Hello all, Tried to install Paroli on MS5 and think I've got a repository issue stopping my success. I installed FSO rootfs: openmoko-fso-illume-image-glibc-ipk--20090202-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 which does not include much stuff and tried to install paroli as per the web instructions [1]. When I try the command DISPLAY=:0; python paroli-launcher I get an error: Traceback (most recent call last): File paroli-launcher, line 58, in module import tichy File ../paroli-core/tichy/__init__.py, line 42, in module import gui_paroli as gui File ../paroli-core/tichy/gui_paroli/__init__.py, line 20, in module import e_dbus ImportError: No module named e_dbus the web page [1] does say that you need e_dbus so that's fine but if I issue the command: opkg list | grep e_dbus there are no packages that match that search. If I do an opkg update I get one error which might be the problem: Collected errors: * Failed to download http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-milestone5/feeds//armv4/Packages.gz, error 404 Can anybody tell me where I could get hold of e_dbus so that I can have a look at Paroli. Thanks [1] http://www.paroli-project.org/running-paroli/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmQABsACgkQXlbjSJ5n4BBp9gCgyZxVqX8YmnAnveP8liSHLPSJ jkcAnR02dNU7jYf5MOBvhUrZT7xk0PKA =SfdQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO M5] Paroli-Apps crash with 'Screen' object has no attribute 'etk_obj
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Guillaume Chereau wrote: On Mon, 2009-02-09 at 10:06 +, Arigead wrote: Hello all, Tried to install Paroli on MS5 and think I've got a repository issue stopping my success. I installed FSO rootfs: openmoko-fso-illume-image-glibc-ipk--20090202-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 which does not include much stuff and tried to install paroli as per the web instructions [1]. When I try the command DISPLAY=:0; python paroli-launcher I get an error: Traceback (most recent call last): File paroli-launcher, line 58, in module import tichy File ../paroli-core/tichy/__init__.py, line 42, in module import gui_paroli as gui File ../paroli-core/tichy/gui_paroli/__init__.py, line 20, in module import e_dbus ImportError: No module named e_dbus the web page [1] does say that you need e_dbus so that's fine but if I issue the command: opkg list | grep e_dbus there are no packages that match that search. The package name is 'python-edbus'. If I do an opkg update I get one error which might be the problem: Collected errors: * Failed to download http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-milestone5/feeds//armv4/Packages.gz, error 404 It depends, maybe you did get the package from an other feed. Try to type : opkg list | grep python-edbus Thanks so much for that, and sorry I should have thought of removing the '_' ! John -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmQGJYACgkQXlbjSJ5n4BCs9QCgoAB5itCEO0Z/NJ5G56iw1EBs MY4An2lclN68gzVUuavBAXKcnSbzcRpy =cA7N -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO M5] Paroli-Apps crash with 'Screen' object has no attribute 'etk_obj
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 opkg list | grep python-edbus Got python-edbus installed but still hitting problems with running paroli on MS5. My Python is not good enough for my looking at the code to have any point but if I get a chance later I'll try find the source of the problem. If anybody has any ideas in the mean time that would be great. r...@om-gta02:~/paroli/paroli-scripts# DISPLAY=:0; python paroli-launcher Traceback (most recent call last): File paroli-launcher, line 58, in module import tichy File ../paroli-core/tichy/__init__.py, line 42, in module import gui_paroli as gui File ../paroli-core/tichy/gui_paroli/__init__.py, line 27, in module import ecore.x File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/ecore/x/__init__.py, line 266, in module init() File ecore.x.c_ecore_x.pyx, line 38, in ecore.x.c_ecore_x.init (ecore/x/ecore.x.c_ecore_x.c:2034) File ecore.x.c_ecore_x_events.pxi, line 657, in ecore.x.c_ecore_x.x_events_register (ecore/x/ecore.x.c_ecore_x.c:12557) File ecore.c_ecore_events.pxi, line 27, in ecore.c_ecore._event_mapping_register (ecore/ecore.c_ecore.c:7245) ValueError: event type '0' already registered. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmQJMwACgkQXlbjSJ5n4BAulgCeLNWFIsrRX0pQ57UY1szpK2CO LswAn0Vznb5LPj8LF+/U0Op+v74oL0U7 =AwVK -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO M5] Paroli-Apps crash with 'Screen' object has no attribute 'etk_obj
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mirko Lindner wrote: Yepp, it is an error in the python bindings of ecore.x. The easiest way to get around this error is to remove the import call in ../paroli-core/tichy/gui_paroli/__init__.py, line 27. We don't use the module currently. I will also remove it in the git. Not sure since when the module is broken, in the version of MS5 that I have all is still working even when importing that module. /mirko Hi Mirko, according to the Paroli web pages this is a good a place as any to discuss issues on Paroli. Perhaps it'd be better on Devel which doesn't see much action these days? Anyhow thanks for your help I got Paroli launcher running with your help but I'm a bit surprised with the results. The only app available in the paroli-launcher is Tele, I'd expected it to pick up contacts and the other apps in paroli. As for Tele it does no start up the GSM modem at all, and register to the network, so I can't make a call with it. Is this a know issue? I'd like to help out by doing a bit of testing and giving some feedback. I've probably a lot of opinion but for a start I'd like to be able to make a phone call if I can't do that I'll have to reinstall zhone, but I was hoping to move on from that app. John -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmRNeYACgkQXlbjSJ5n4BB+GgCgivgjP2k5fuStmfZfTpvuwFMd OPsAmwS6HQ51t6KYPVMMYfawiI7k1xfy =rrLg -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO M5] Paroli-Apps crash with 'Screen' object has no attribute 'etk_obj
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Guillaume Chereau wrote: On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 08:08 +, Arigead wrote: As for Tele it does no start up the GSM modem at all, and register to the network, so I can't make a call with it. Is this a know issue? I'd like to help out by doing a bit of testing and giving some feedback. I've probably a lot of opinion but for a start I'd like to be able to make a phone call if I can't do that I'll have to reinstall zhone, but I was hoping to move on from that app. Hi John, They are two things you could look for : First, if you start paroli directy from its source directory, and you don't have it installed, it will read the local config file ./paroli.cfg, wich set GSM service to TEST, so that you will never get connected to the network. If you see this line the log : INFO set service GSM to Test Then it means you have to comment the line defaults = GSM:Test, SIM:Test, Audio:Test, in paroli.cfg Second thing is that even when you run paroli using the correct GSM service, you get no visual indication of the connection status. And it can be quite long before you get a network connection. Could you please repeat the operation and send the log (/tmp/paroli.log) to the mailing list ? Regards, Guillaume Sorry Guillaume, I seem to be going backwards here. I've gone through a fresh install using the following steps from flashing a fresh rootfs into the FR sudo dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D openmoko-fso-illume-image-glibc-ipk--20090202-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 now on the FR: opkg update opkg install python-ecore python-evas python-etk python-edje python-edbus cd paroli/paroli-applications sh build.sh cd ../paroli-scripts/ DISPLAY=:0; python paroli-launcher results in the following: [Etk-Warning] (ecore_evas_x11.c:190 - _engine_init()): Ecore_X initialization failed! [Etk-Warning] (etk_engine.c:221 - etk_engine_load()): Etk can not initialize the requested engine! Segmentation fault -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmRkYkACgkQXlbjSJ5n4BDu9ACfXfNj24Spcsmf6s5qSzKrbw5O KzYAn2E25O89jPM0gTAFRMM+LLrH1L4k =fxhR -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO M5] Paroli-Apps crash with 'Screen' object has no attribute 'etk_obj
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Guillaume Chereau wrote: On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 14:39 +, Arigead wrote: cd ../paroli-scripts/ DISPLAY=:0; python paroli-launcher results in the following: [Etk-Warning] (ecore_evas_x11.c:190 - _engine_init()): Ecore_X initialization failed! [Etk-Warning] (etk_engine.c:221 - etk_engine_load()): Etk can not initialize the requested engine! Segmentation fault I don't know what the problem is. It is the error you get when you don't set DISPLAY=:0 (by the way very annoying to have a seg fault in that case) but since you took care of setting DISPLAY then I don't know. Can you run this simple test : DISPLAY=:0; python -c 'import etk' And see if you get the same error. /Guillaume r...@om-gta02:~# DISPLAY=:0; python -c 'import etk' [Etk-Warning] (ecore_evas_x11.c:190 - _engine_init()): Ecore_X initialization failed! [Etk-Warning] (etk_engine.c:221 - etk_engine_load()): Etk can not initialize the requested engine! Segmentation fault r...@om-gta02:~# Nice one Guillaume ;-) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmSiD8ACgkQXlbjSJ5n4BC2ZwCgoO+pzeYsz7PmSEr58Oz6Z0yi xiEAniugv0iTyeq8iLhmoiulbGIuIdcs =vUoc -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO M5] Paroli-Apps crash with 'Screen' object has no attribute 'etk_obj
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Guillaume Chereau wrote: On Wed, 2009-02-11 at 08:12 +, Arigead wrote: r...@om-gta02:~# DISPLAY=:0; python -c 'import etk' [Etk-Warning] (ecore_evas_x11.c:190 - _engine_init()): Ecore_X initialization failed! [Etk-Warning] (etk_engine.c:221 - etk_engine_load()): Etk can not initialize the requested engine! Segmentation fault r...@om-gta02:~# OK then at least the error doesn't come from paroli. I don't get the error on my gta02, using FSO ms5 (illume) My version of python-etk (opkg info python-etk) is 0.1.1+svnr38544-ml1 and my version of libetk1 is 2:0.1.0.042+svnr38544-r4, what are yours ? Also, which flavor of FSO ms5 are you using ? fso-console-image, fso-illume-image, or fso-image ? I am using illume version and haven't tried the other ones. Ah, and just to make sure, can you also try using export DISPLAY=:0 instead of DISPLAY=:0 ? -gui what can I say, leaving out naughty words? export makes a world of difference. Thanks a million for your help. Now I can start using Paroli. John -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmSrJEACgkQXlbjSJ5n4BB1sACfSQQcDTVmcg9Lh5X/ZAUryUln Zs0AniHfl/3wz+0W2B0QIiZoRO4le9jm =rZGo -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO M5] Paroli-Apps crash with 'Screen' object has no attribute 'etk_obj
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ok now I've got Paroli up and running and removed the test stuff from the config file. I'll cut and paste the output to the terminal windown. I've basically selected Tele, the only app in the list and get the following output. I'll have a look at it later on. One thing is that later on the coverage display on the top does change to show my coverage but it's down as No Service. Selecting Tele after the first time does nothing and produces no more output. Paroli seems to be a bit away from daily use in my case :-( John paroli-launcher.py 70 Launcher INFO adding - Tele to launcher paroli-launcher.py 108 Launcher INFO False paroli-launcher 284 root INFO starting mainloop gsm.py 181 GSM INFO Check antenna power gsm.py 183 GSM INFO antenna power is 0 gsm.py 186 GSM INFO turn on antenna power gsm.py 173 GSM INFO register on the network gsm.py 177 GSM ERRORError : org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device.Timeout: device did not answer within 30 seconds tasklet.py 121 tasklet ERRORGot error from unconnected tasklet : org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device.Timeout: device did not answer within 30 seconds tasklet.py 125 tasklet ERROR File ../paroli-core/tichy/tasklet.py, line 162, in throw tasklet.py 125 tasklet ERRORvalue = self.generator.throw(type, value, traceback) tasklet.py 125 tasklet ERROR tasklet.py 125 tasklet ERROR File paroli-launcher, line 123, in run tasklet.py 125 tasklet ERRORyield gsm_service.init() tasklet.py 125 tasklet ERROR tasklet.py 125 tasklet ERROR File ../paroli-core/tichy/tasklet.py, line 162, in throw tasklet.py 125 tasklet ERRORvalue = self.generator.throw(type, value, traceback) tasklet.py 125 tasklet ERROR tasklet.py 125 tasklet ERROR File ../paroli-services/phone/gsm.py, line 174, in init tasklet.py 125 tasklet ERRORyield WaitDBus(self.gsm_network.Register) tasklet.py 125 tasklet ERROR gh -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmSwLEACgkQXlbjSJ5n4BBokwCg0m4uz8D3Bmw8A4a8c1GOdMHf 3c4AnjRywX72BtksDfZe76MSvoztmXHe =qx+P -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FSO] Build problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello all, Got an error doing a make fso-gta02-milestone5-image on the fetch of videoproto, can anybody advise me on how to get around it? Thanks a million John NOTE: package videoproto-2.2.2: started NOTE: package videoproto-1_2.2.2-r1: task do_fetch: started NOTE: The MD5Sums did not match. Wanted: '44292d74a9a3c94b1ecb9d77a0da83e8' and Got: '3ba1a1dc531c5b67114df47630ec301d' NOTE: Task failed: Checksum of 'http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/individual/proto/videoproto-2.2.2.tar.bz2' failed -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmVR4MACgkQXlbjSJ5n4BCTnACgkTcJSvtPifg+NE0PSv6F7Zhr Z5MAoNsZrfAqYa0DxcTL29JGAnWM6vpf =4+6T -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FSO] building appweb problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello again, slightly curious about appweb and seeing a bitbake recipe I decided I might try a little build of it in the fso-milestone5 directory. Got errors in the compile: gcc -c -g -D_DEBUG -Wall -DLINUX -D_REENTRANT -fno-rtti - -fno-exceptions-I../.. genDepend.cpp -o genDepend.o gcc: error trying to exec 'cc1plus': execvp: No such file or directory make[2]: *** [genDepend.o] Error 1 make[1]: *** [bin/genDepend] Error 2 I found an old discussion [1] which mentions both the c++ compiler and libgcc1 both of which I have installed on my host computer. I can't seem to find a solution to the issue. [1] http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td573187 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmVTooACgkQXlbjSJ5n4BAMLwCglQQyLMNPO8/NPoofbiLA9zNC 4ygAn3uaIfbUlbtz1C1/kvXeRVGBOUR6 =TeRU -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Google Summer of Code
Daniel Willmann wrote: On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:22:55 +0100 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote: i think there is none shr (or fso?) got rejected Both actually. We joined forces with our application and were rejected. Everybody is still welcome to work on cool projects, though. :-) Are you mentoring ? ;-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: started with openembedded
Angus Ainslie wrote: On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 10:41 +0200, Anas Alzouhbi wrote: Thank you for your recommandation, I'm a new user and programmer on Linux, could you help me how can I run my commands as normal user, with the problem of permission of creating directories. what do you mean start from scratch or do a chown on directories. Thank you for you help that I big it On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org wrote: On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 15:45 +0200, Anas Alzouhbi wrote: hello! I followed the instruction written in http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Getting_Started, I arrived to this command git clone git://git.openembedded.net/openembedded but it shows this error: fatal: could not create work tree dir 'openembedded'. what must I do Hi Anas From looking at some of your other mails you've been running some commands as root. It's not necessary and dangerous. It's probably a permission problem on the directory, so either start from scratch somewhere else as a normal user or do a chown on the directories you're working in. Angus Please keep the thread on list Google pointed out a few links http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/Debian_newbie_help_documentation http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Getting_started This is from the gumstix site but it might be useful. Hope it's of some help anyhow. http://www.gumstix.net/User/view/Build-system-overview/Hello-world-tutorial/110.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Justyn Butler wrote: A couple of days ago Sean made a speech at ESC. For anyone interested it is described here, with a video excerpt: http://techpulse360.com/2009/03/31/esc09-open-moko-is-the-anti-iphone-runs-google-android-but-still-no-3g/ He talks about the level of freedom the Freerunner offers people wanting to create a customized phone or those who want a development phone. He also explains what it would take to put 3G in the phones, saying that they'd do it (but the 3G part would be closed) if a customer put in a large enough order (ie 50,000 units). Justyn. ps. At this point I'd like to say that I'd seriously consider paying up to $200 extra for a 3.5G-enabled OpenMoko phone (which, per the speech, is what it would cost). But I definitely can't order 50,000 of them. I seem to remember last year a Canadian company had made a spacer that fitted between the phone and the back cover to make the FR something like 5mm fatter. Into the extra space they'd put a Digital TV Receiver and displayed TV on the FR screen. If you could get a hold of the plastic spacer could you then take a 3.5G USB Dongle and put that into the space? I think that 3.5G USB Dongles are supported by the usb serial option driver. I've got a: Bus 002 Device 003: ID 12d1:1003 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. E220 HSDPA Modem / E270 HSDPA/HSUPA Modem plugged into this Ubuntu laptop. I did plug it into the FR running SHR and it all worked without a problem once I'd created the necessary /etc files. Is HSDPA 3.5G? Maybe it's only 3G I can't keep up with my G's. Anyhow HSDPA Dongle worked on the FR if that's of any help. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknVLVIACgkQXlbjSJ5n4BD1+wCeLZ57QJ4/ckxfptSkbFb1OpT3 sGgAn0P1sMJPZ6fPIWKunLFmg3rcL1nU =o5qB -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Mosher wrote: Since I worked on the presentation with Sean for the days he was here in SF, let me give you my view and sean's view. That way we won't get into some version of the telephone game. Sean discussed three things at OpenExpo. 1. Our successes. 2. Our mistakes. 3. Our challenges I won't go over 1 2 but I'll cover #3 since rasters perception has a bit of color added to it. Only a tiny bit and he's entitled to that color commentary, I'll just add what Sean and I, as authors of the presentation, had as our message. Our biggest challenge was to make a choice about how to spend the balance of 2009. There were two paths: A: Fulfill our promises on FreeRunner and launch GTA03 B: Fulfill our promises on FreeRunner and launch project B. We will talk more about project B in the coming months, but these salient facts should be able to guide any budding executives out there. 1. GTA03 was in constant flux as a design. 2. GTA03 schedule was consequently always slipping. 3. The resources required for GTA03 are 3X those required for Project B. 4. We don't have 3X. So, we picked plan B. Now comes the question, what about GTA03? how do we get there? And when? and what is it? Well my basic argument was and is this: First we attend to the issues that still remain with the GTA02. That's why the VP of marketing ( of all people) is working on the buzz fix problem. Second we complete project B. When we've done that, then we get to eat dessert. Essentially, I made the same argument I heard so many times on this list: How do expect us to buy a GTA03 when you've yet to deliver on all the promise of FreeRunner? And I took the arguments I heard from disty seriously, how do you expect us to buy FR, when GTA03 is right around the corner? And I accepted the arguments I heard from Engineers I respect who questioned the viability of the GTA03 in the market place. All of those arguments said put a bullet in its brain pan! So, what about GTA03? As it was defined, it is dead. So how do we get to a new GTA03? Two requirements: continue to improve GTA02; deliver on project B. What is GTA03 and when do we get there? There are a number of independent efforts out there that are pitching me ideas for GTA03. I talked to sean a bit about this and I'd like to try to open up more of the design process and the marketing process to the community. Perhaps on a separate list. Some of these discussions have already started. What can you do to help? 1. Move GTA02 code upstream. 2. Stay Involved. 3. Continue work on applications 4. Buy a FreeRunner. 5. Get involved in GTA03 discussions Best, Steve Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 18:35:58 +0100 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org said: On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 06:13:36PM +0100, Justyn Butler wrote: 2009/4/2 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org: On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 05:38:42PM +0100, Justyn Butler wrote: He also explains what it would take to put 3G in the phones, saying that they'd do it (but the 3G part would be closed) if a customer put in a large enough order (ie 50,000 units). You've just convinced me that, unless this changes, no OpenMoko with 3G will get my money as far as I'm concerned :) Why the outrage? I bought the OpenMoko to get a more Free Software phone, not one that gets less and less Free as new devices come up :) I seriously hope GTA3 fixes some of the most serious problems GTA2 had regarding that. 3g can be done - just like the 2g on feeerunner - you will talk to a closed blob via a defined protocol. just like any chip anywhere. no less free than gta02 in that way. BUT yes - you'll pay an extra $200. nb gta03 - you missed the news from sean's talk at openexpo in switzerland. gta03 is postponed (read cancelled - postponed is just a nice way to say it and try and keep the community hanging around in hope it un-cancels, as openmoko has laid off most of their staff (also news from openexpo), their linux staff. you don't un-postpone if you just let all the people go who work on the software). Thanks for the clarification Steve, Carsten had be worried there for a moment. Can I say that I'm using the FR as my Daily Phone and I'm as happy as a pig in shit that when I find the time I can write new apps and improve existing apps. I think most of the people on these lists appreciates the philosophy of Open Source. I for one would love for Open Moko to make that philosophy successful in the Hardware arena. Regardless of what you produce as Plan B, even if it's a hair straightener, I'll buy one. ;-) Best of luck and keep us informed. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknVvHoACgkQXlbjSJ5n4BAmAwCggEMlwYwn44NIK1+1hu9YyZit 5pgAoLhLvdecshoZfkYUQ/SKX1pdK6eR =VDOI -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sander wrote: Related to this I'm looking for a converter between the small USB port on the FR and a 3G USB dongle (or a USB keyboard). I've searched but not found any. Any tips? I just use the usb micro cable that connects the FR to the PC and stick a small Gender changer on the 'normal' sized end. you could try http://www.usbfirewire.com/uconverters.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknVxGMACgkQXlbjSJ5n4BDBSgCghDQ1tnjg0kN/N11NGOmldSot QdMAn2+rRKyPnD1HNnFRhFxdW18fJmD7 =wk1+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device
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kimaidou wrote:
Hi
There are a lot of small usb convertissers :
http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000TCSYFC/ref=ord_cart_shr?_encoding=UTF8m=A88Q2E8PA1VAL
http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000TCSYFC/ref=ord_cart_shr?_encoding=UTF8m=A88Q2E8PA1VAL
http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B000TCSYES
I use them with my Keyboard and usb stick, and it workds well
Could someone give some link to working 3G usb dongles ?
I think a lot of 3G usb dongles are supported by the usb/serial/option
driver. I know that was the kernel module my Huawei was using. The code
has a long list of supported devices. I've only got an old kernel open
at the moment but from the 2.6.20-19 kernel code from option.c is below.
Check out the later kernel that the FR uses as far more have been added
as far as I know.
/* Vendor and product IDs */
#define OPTION_VENDOR_ID0x0AF0
#define HUAWEI_VENDOR_ID0x12D1
#define AUDIOVOX_VENDOR_ID 0x0F3D
#define NOVATELWIRELESS_VENDOR_ID 0x1410
#define ANYDATA_VENDOR_ID 0x16d5
#define OPTION_PRODUCT_OLD 0x5000
#define OPTION_PRODUCT_FUSION 0x6000
#define OPTION_PRODUCT_FUSION2 0x6300
#define OPTION_PRODUCT_COBRA0x6500
#define OPTION_PRODUCT_COBRA2 0x6600
#define OPTION_PRODUCT_GTMAX36 0x6701
#define HUAWEI_PRODUCT_E600 0x1001
#define HUAWEI_PRODUCT_E220 0x1003
#define AUDIOVOX_PRODUCT_AIRCARD0x0112
#define NOVATELWIRELESS_PRODUCT_U7400x1400
#define ANYDATA_PRODUCT_ID 0x6501
static struct usb_device_id option_ids[] = {
{ USB_DEVICE(OPTION_VENDOR_ID, OPTION_PRODUCT_OLD) },
{ USB_DEVICE(OPTION_VENDOR_ID, OPTION_PRODUCT_FUSION) },
{ USB_DEVICE(OPTION_VENDOR_ID, OPTION_PRODUCT_FUSION2) },
{ USB_DEVICE(OPTION_VENDOR_ID, OPTION_PRODUCT_COBRA) },
{ USB_DEVICE(OPTION_VENDOR_ID, OPTION_PRODUCT_COBRA2) },
{ USB_DEVICE(OPTION_VENDOR_ID, OPTION_PRODUCT_GTMAX36) },
{ USB_DEVICE(HUAWEI_VENDOR_ID, HUAWEI_PRODUCT_E600) },
{ USB_DEVICE(HUAWEI_VENDOR_ID, HUAWEI_PRODUCT_E220) },
{ USB_DEVICE(AUDIOVOX_VENDOR_ID, AUDIOVOX_PRODUCT_AIRCARD) },
{ USB_DEVICE(NOVATELWIRELESS_VENDOR_ID,NOVATELWIRELESS_PRODUCT_U740) },
{ USB_DEVICE(ANYDATA_VENDOR_ID, ANYDATA_PRODUCT_ID) },
{ } /* Terminating entry */
};
static struct usb_device_id option_ids1[] = {
{ USB_DEVICE(OPTION_VENDOR_ID, OPTION_PRODUCT_OLD) },
{ USB_DEVICE(OPTION_VENDOR_ID, OPTION_PRODUCT_FUSION) },
{ USB_DEVICE(OPTION_VENDOR_ID, OPTION_PRODUCT_FUSION2) },
{ USB_DEVICE(OPTION_VENDOR_ID, OPTION_PRODUCT_COBRA) },
{ USB_DEVICE(OPTION_VENDOR_ID, OPTION_PRODUCT_COBRA2) },
{ USB_DEVICE(OPTION_VENDOR_ID, OPTION_PRODUCT_GTMAX36) },
{ USB_DEVICE(HUAWEI_VENDOR_ID, HUAWEI_PRODUCT_E600) },
{ USB_DEVICE(HUAWEI_VENDOR_ID, HUAWEI_PRODUCT_E220) },
{ USB_DEVICE(AUDIOVOX_VENDOR_ID, AUDIOVOX_PRODUCT_AIRCARD) },
{ USB_DEVICE(NOVATELWIRELESS_VENDOR_ID,NOVATELWIRELESS_PRODUCT_U740) },
{ USB_DEVICE(ANYDATA_VENDOR_ID, ANYDATA_PRODUCT_ID) },
{ } /* Terminating entry */
};
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Re: Litephone 0.1
Christof Musik wrote: Hello Today I'm pleased to announce Litephone 0.1. Since the last version released by Michal I've done some work and improved the whole code. There are also many changes and fixes for the UI. To install it follow the instructions on www.litephone.org. There you will find all packages that are needed to install Litephone and Qt. Here is a quick summary of the changes I've done: - Improved message and phonelog view - Contacts can have more properties - Added PIN input widget and use it in PIN change dialog - Translation support (thanks to Bart?omiej Zimon' for polish translation) - Improved startup code If you find any bugs or have feature requests, just report them on www.litephone.org Kind regards, Christof Thanks a million for the update. I tried litephone on SHR-U for the first time yesterday and tried to send a text message test message hello. That got displayed in litephone as ttes meessag hello which I thought was funny as. I was going to ask if there were any updates or where the repository was today. You beat me to it downloading now ;-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Litephone 0.1
Michal Brzozowski wrote: 2009/9/10 Arigead captain.dea...@gmail.com mailto:captain.dea...@gmail.com Thanks a million for the update. I tried litephone on SHR-U for the first time yesterday and tried to send a text message test message hello. That got displayed in litephone as ttes meessag hello which I thought was funny as. I was going to ask if there were any updates or where the repository was today. You beat me to it downloading now ;-) Can you go to sent messages and see what has been sent? My guess is that you typed in the misspelled message using the predictive illume keyboard. Someone has already reported this, and my guess is the bug is somewhere between illume and qt (maybe the fakekey events get swapped because illume sends them all without a delay or something). The message got sent like that as I received it on my other phone that garbled way. It's exactly the same with the new version which I downloaded earlier today. I don't see any way to look at sent messages in litephone so maybe it's not as intuitive as it could be ;-) Other problem is that it can't receive messages at all. I got rid of the notifier and ophonekitd out of /etc/X11/Xsession so maybe I need to put the notifier back in but I'd assumed that I might not get a notification but I'd still receive the message. Any messages I've sent are not arriving at all. Can we look at the source code? ;-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[shr-u] App Launcher first thoughts
It's taken me a while to get around to looking at this. Brilliant, really like it for a start but hard to find info on how to configure it. At present I can't seem to configure it to receive the SMS messages. I've been looking through the internet with a very bad connection trying to find some info on the necessary configuration of both launcher and framework to get it to work. I unfortunately removed shr-messages from the phone as I liked the app launcher so much. Now I've got the notifications that I've received an SMS message but I've no idea where it is. Using a test sim so I'm messaging myself so I'm not missing anything anyhow ;-) I have to say I like the default screen and think that it's better then the illume app screen in shr-u. This is personal opinion but I don't think that the screen of applications I have installed is information. It only becomes information if I add an app to the phone and then it's only useful information when I add one and can see it there. I don't think I'd like my computer's desktop to just show me all the apps I have installed. I know where to find the menu to launch one though, when I need it. As I've said can't find info on launcher but my screen is showing me the time and the date, each on a line and then on a third line it's showing me a few numbers which I've no idea about. What does that info mean? I've been looking over what email I still have in my inbox on the subject of launcher and trying to piece together info. I don't think it should be that complicated though. It'd be great if people who went ahead of me and found stuff out could have updated the app launcher wiki page in the openmoko wiki, then I'd be standing on the shoulders of giants. At present all I can see are shins. Now in one of those previous emails the author (Well done on a brilliant app) mentioned that an attempt might be made to create a dbus interface to add info to the launcher home screen. Did that go anywhere? I'm interested in this as I'd like to add a simple anniversary app which could make use of this interface. I don't want to add reminders for birthdays and the like as it's a bit of work and when I do that on other phones I get reminded maybe three days before the event and then promptly forget it till the day after the event (disaster_1.0.0.bb) It'd be great if I could write a simple script which would look at my text file which contains all the dates and work out which date is next and how long I've got. Then post that info to app launcher which could put it under the time and date and maybe even color code it depending on how long I've got left. A cron job could check it when the date changes at midnight and when the phone is powered up. Obviously then I can't forget the date in question. Maybe if there were two dates very close it could put up both. Anyhow that's just be thinking out loud. Maybe other people here ain't as absent minded as me. Maybe it's an age thing ;-) Loving the launcher if I could only wire it up to receive messages ;-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] App Launcher first thoughts
c_c wrote: Arigead wrote: Now in one of those previous emails the author (Well done on a brilliant app) mentioned that an attempt might be made to create a dbus interface to add info to the launcher home screen. Did that go anywhere? Thanks. But that effort didn't go anywhere. I got stuck reading copious amount of documentation on dbus but got no single example about how to implement a simple service using dbus/e-dbus. Well, maybe I didn't put in enough effort since there were other things to do. If someone can point me in the right direction - this is something I intend doing. BTW, the birthday and anniversary details in contacts is supposed to automatically provide a reminder (configurable from preferences) 'x' no of days in advance - provided I can get alarms (which wake up the phone from suspend) and the notification dbus service working. Both have been pending for some time now. Any ideas? there are probably a number, any number, of solutions to this. Personally I've used other mobile phones, of course, and never liked the solution whereby you get a reminder x no of days in advance. I get the reminder and promptly forget about it. That's fine if it's an anniversary that isn't really important, but some you miss at your own peril. With that in mind I was thinking that in your home screen of Launcher, if enabled, you'd show the next anniversary or the next two or so if there's two in very quick succession. That way every time you look at the phone you see potentially useful info. The number of days to the date could change the colour of the information so that you know it's time to panic and just to go for the back up plan of a bottle of whiskey for a present. Not the best present for an anniversary but maybe that depends. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Which Java JRE?
Hello all, I'm working on a project and I think it'd be cool as to show off the project's work on a phone. The OpenMoko phone ;-) Unfortunately the project is implemented in Java, which I'm no fan of on anything but a web server or browser but that's a discussion for another day. I tried our system, which is running in an OSGi Container, on Jamvm on the OpenMoko. It works but it sucks up 95% of the CPU when it's idle. Not Good! I tried the same on my eeePC and with Sun's JRE our system uses 1% of CPU whilst JamVM on the eeePC uses 40%. Obviously JamVM does not suit our system. So I was thinking of taking a look at one of Sun's ARM JRE's but I'm a bit confused by the CPU in the FreeRunner. I've read that it's an ARM920T core which uses the ARMv4 Instruction set and is ARM7 Binary Compatible. I'm totally confused as to whether this means I need an Arm4, 7, or 9 JRE. Sun don't have too many JRE's for ARM so I'm probably not going to get one that suits. I might try Cacao. If anybody could advise me which ARM Jre I need I'd be very greatful. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Which Java JRE?
Bernd Prunster wrote: Martin Jansa wrote: On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 03:06:35PM +, Arigead wrote: Hello all, I'm working on a project and I think it'd be cool as to show off the project's work on a phone. The OpenMoko phone ;-) Unfortunately the project is implemented in Java, which I'm no fan of on anything but a web server or browser but that's a discussion for another day. I tried our system, which is running in an OSGi Container, on Jamvm on the OpenMoko. It works but it sucks up 95% of the CPU when it's idle. Not Good! I tried the same on my eeePC and with Sun's JRE our system uses 1% of CPU whilst JamVM on the eeePC uses 40%. Obviously JamVM does not suit our system. No idea if it would be better, but have you tried cacao? Its in shr-feeds now again. This is really weird! I wrtoe one more or less serious app in java for the freerunner and a couple of test apps and jamvm had avery fast startup, but was not as compatible as cacao, but easier to use and did not require that much ressources. which distro are you using? which feed are you using to install jamvm (dunno if still true but there used to be a difference depending on where you installed it from). Sorry I've been a bit busy on stuff and only now catching up here on the list. I'm using the latest classpath 0.98 and Jamvm 1.5.3 I can't remember the specifics at the moment but there was some feature of Java 6 that our system's code was using which required JamVM 1.5.3 which in turn required Classpath 0.98. I just used a OE recipe for those and build them for the OpenMoko. I tried the Cacao JRE on my eeePC and it soaked up resources as well so I never even bothered to build it for the phone. Obviously something in our Java System, mabe knophlerfish is not streamlined in these JRE's. There is a Huge difference in running our system in a SUN JRE (1% CPU According top) and other Jre's I'm working now on the eeePC to see can I reduce this 40% on Jamvm. When I get time actually I'm now trying to connect to an AdHoc wifi network form the FreeRunner. Thanks for the clarification on the ARM front. I don't think Sun have a JRE for an ARM 4, no surprise really ;-) Things would be too easy. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Dbus through network? Re: Digital Media Controler for DLNA
Christophe M wrote: Cristophe you finally succeed in using dbus trough network? that's awesome!! :) Yes, I'm working on that ! I'm able to call remote methode, remote methodes with arguments and very soon remote methodes that return some values .. There is just connection to remote signals and build in security missing ... yes I have read about gabriel project before(two monts or so) was not updated since early 2008 now seems than a new maintainer has picked up the baton but not new commits yet. gabriels aproach is more secure but lacks a direct way to play with as Cristoph proposal :) and lazy as I am I will love to play with qalee integrated remote dbus :), I have to take a look to boxee(boxee.tv http://boxee.tv/) to see if it has a dbus interfaces to play with too :) I didn't know about this project before, but I think they are different. What I want to do I to propose a simple access to the remote bus with build in encryption and interface filter. I don't want to share an entire bus .. Shs approch is less hacking but could be harder to get it working. My project will be : Launch a daemon on the pc with a file with exported methode and a password as argument (or setted via dbus), launch a daemon with a password as argument (or setted via dbus) on the phone (or what ever you want) and access the remote bus via a single methode, you'll know that you are calling a methode on a remote machine ... I just want it to be simple, to use and to implement I know that dbus is able directly to be used on network but that's not easy to get it working, that's not documented and that's not secure ... ?? gabriel *is* the direct way! you *are* on the remote dbus :) and above all it run very nice with the freerunner too. I'm using it to develop veeery fast on my pc using FSO on the freerunner. Oh, there is another solution (unmaintained due to few requests) to control a remote Linux Box iniecting lowlevel uinput events (emulating keyboard and mouse, it runs on text vt too), or executing remote commands (like dbus-send, etc.) : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/NIDE/NIDED You can use the keyboard that come with the last release of qalee and my daemons for it ;) (the keyboard is based on dbus and is divided on two part (see svn, documentation soon)) and will be integrated in an upcoming Qt DE too. That's only to say I'm sad that peoples did not join a common project. To join a project, you have to know about it ;) But I think that those differents approch can coexist, they are different to use. If you don't like mine, I don't care, you are not obliged to use it, for me and other peoples it's utile as it is. That's free software :) ( For example I can say the same about Enlightenment ... I don't like it, their were kde, gnome, ... why people are developing for it instead of developing for other DE ? But I don't care, you have the choice to use what you want and develop for what you want ... ) Interesting thread, which I'm only catching up with. I've actually been busy working on something where by I wanted a DBus Signal from my FreeRunner sent to my eeePC. It was single Dbus signal for the CallStatus out of FSO, so I simply wrote a small python all to monitor the Signal and then fire a message over a unix socket to my eeePC which then fired out a Signal onto the DBus of the eeePC. Not at all pretty but it works. Part of our Java :-( Project is to do with learning user behaviour and pre-empting that behaviour. I was using the signal on my eeePC to turn off the Music automatically. SO when we answer a call on the Phone the music gets paused in RhythmBox (Hangup the call and it gets started again). Our project is using Jxta as a networking solution but it would be much better if Distributed or remote DBus was more nailed down. I did see the gabriel project but I've been in a hurry, hoping to demo soon and used the simple socket. It would be great if we could input to the DBus Standard in the distributed area. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[shr-u] wifi connection
Hello All, I was going to try and connect my FR to my laptop with an ad-hoc wifi connection but being as I've never even connected to infrastructure I decided that I'd start there. I followed the instructions in the wiki [1] but got some strange results: ifdown eth0 ifup eth0 ifdown: interface eth0 not configured WPA: Configuring Interface ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported udhcpc (v1.13.2) started run-parts: /etc/udhcpc.d/00avahi-autoipd exited with code 1 Sending discover... Sending discover... Sending select for 192.168.1.137... Sending select for 192.168.1.137... Lease of 192.168.1.137 obtained, lease time 3600 run-parts: /etc/udhcpc.d/00avahi-autoipd exited with code 1 adding dns 192.168.1.254 r...@om-gta02 /media/card $ ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:12:CF:8F:37:23 inet6 addr: fe80::212:cfff:fe8f:3723/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:751 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:381 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:353244 (344.9 KiB) TX bytes:9635 (9.4 KiB) It appears that I get offered an address by the DHCP server on the wifi but that it's not being used by eth0 for some reason. Is this a know issue. To be honest I've never tried to use the wifi part of the phone before and the wiki might be outdated, even for infrastructure mode? Cheers for any help that anybody has time to offer. [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wifi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] wifi connection
William Kenworthy wrote: On Thu, 2009-12-03 at 11:00 -0500, Iain B. Findleton wrote: Arigead wrote: Hello All, I was going to try and connect my FR to my laptop with an ad-hoc wifi connection but being as I've never even connected to infrastructure I decided that I'd start there. I followed the instructions in the wiki [1] but got some strange results: ifdown eth0 ifup eth0 ifdown: interface eth0 not configured WPA: Configuring Interface ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported udhcpc (v1.13.2) started run-parts: /etc/udhcpc.d/00avahi-autoipd exited with code 1 Sending discover... Sending discover... Sending select for 192.168.1.137... Sending select for 192.168.1.137... Lease of 192.168.1.137 obtained, lease time 3600 run-parts: /etc/udhcpc.d/00avahi-autoipd exited with code 1 adding dns 192.168.1.254 r...@om-gta02 /media/card $ ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:12:CF:8F:37:23 inet6 addr: fe80::212:cfff:fe8f:3723/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:751 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:381 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:353244 (344.9 KiB) TX bytes:9635 (9.4 KiB) It appears that I get offered an address by the DHCP server on the wifi but that it's not being used by eth0 for some reason. Is this a know issue. To be honest I've never tried to use the wifi part of the phone before and the wiki might be outdated, even for infrastructure mode? Cheers for any help that anybody has time to offer. I have similar problems getting wifi to work on SHR-U. In my case I get an address and configure the interface via dhcp, but can not establish any traffic to the interface. In one case I could ping a host but the transit time was enormous. The other thing I note from ifconfig is ridiculous RX and TX values, almost 1TB on an interface I never have used. Looks to me like a bug somewhere in the driver code. [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wifi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Check route -n, and are you trying wifi with usb plugged in? - depending on the order you start/stop interfaces the default route could either be wrong or missing. And which version of shr-u - latest, or older. BillK Hi BillK, your response motivated me to look at the latest shr-u image as I was using one from mid November. Thought I'd best update it even thought I'm sort of happy with what I've got at present. I do want to use wifi for a demo so off we go. I grabbed the shr-u kernel from 29th of November and the lite rootfs from 30th. Bit of a WTF moment there when I failed to find any wifi antenna setting in Settings/Connectivity where I'm used to seeing it. Decided that I'd just enable the eth0 interface with an ifup but get told that interface don't exist. Maybe I leaped too far forward in time. Have you any recommendations as to which version to use? I might go back a version and see how I get on. Maybe I should be using the full root-fs but I only want the basics at present. I did in the mean time discover coova-chilli for the first time. That one slipped under my radar, like a good many other things. I'll go back in time but if you've any advice on a good image let me know. Cheers ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] wifi connection
Kosa wrote: Arigead escribió: William Kenworthy wrote: On Thu, 2009-12-03 at 11:00 -0500, Iain B. Findleton wrote: Arigead wrote: Hello All, I was going to try and connect my FR to my laptop with an ad-hoc wifi connection but being as I've never even connected to infrastructure I decided that I'd start there. I followed the instructions in the wiki [1] but got some strange results: ifdown eth0 ifup eth0 ifdown: interface eth0 not configured WPA: Configuring Interface ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported udhcpc (v1.13.2) started run-parts: /etc/udhcpc.d/00avahi-autoipd exited with code 1 Sending discover... Sending discover... Sending select for 192.168.1.137... Sending select for 192.168.1.137... Lease of 192.168.1.137 obtained, lease time 3600 run-parts: /etc/udhcpc.d/00avahi-autoipd exited with code 1 adding dns 192.168.1.254 r...@om-gta02 /media/card $ ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:12:CF:8F:37:23 inet6 addr: fe80::212:cfff:fe8f:3723/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:751 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:381 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:353244 (344.9 KiB) TX bytes:9635 (9.4 KiB) It appears that I get offered an address by the DHCP server on the wifi but that it's not being used by eth0 for some reason. Is this a know issue. To be honest I've never tried to use the wifi part of the phone before and the wiki might be outdated, even for infrastructure mode? Cheers for any help that anybody has time to offer. I have similar problems getting wifi to work on SHR-U. In my case I get an address and configure the interface via dhcp, but can not establish any traffic to the interface. In one case I could ping a host but the transit time was enormous. The other thing I note from ifconfig is ridiculous RX and TX values, almost 1TB on an interface I never have used. Looks to me like a bug somewhere in the driver code. [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wifi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Check route -n, and are you trying wifi with usb plugged in? - depending on the order you start/stop interfaces the default route could either be wrong or missing. And which version of shr-u - latest, or older. BillK Hi BillK, your response motivated me to look at the latest shr-u image as I was using one from mid November. Thought I'd best update it even thought I'm sort of happy with what I've got at present. I do want to use wifi for a demo so off we go. I grabbed the shr-u kernel from 29th of November and the lite rootfs from 30th. Bit of a WTF moment there when I failed to find any wifi antenna setting in Settings/Connectivity where I'm used to seeing it. Decided that I'd just enable the eth0 interface with an ifup but get told that interface don't exist. Maybe I leaped too far forward in time. Have you any recommendations as to which version to use? I might go back a version and see how I get on. Maybe I should be using the full root-fs but I only want the basics at present. I did in the mean time discover coova-chilli for the first time. That one slipped under my radar, like a good many other things. I'll go back in time but if you've any advice on a good image let me know. Cheers Shr teams just announced the release of a testing-image and it seems to work fine. Mokoconnect is not working but I have been able to set up a wifi connection to both wep (without password) and wpa-psk networks using the termninal. Take a look at here: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/ Cheers! Kosa - Un mundo mejor es posible - I did an opkg update and an opkg upgrade of my lite rootfs from the 30th of November and now there is a wifi on setting in Setting/Connectivity but doesn't seem to be able to find a dhcp offer on my network. I'll maybe change to the testing image and see how that works out. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
