Take off navigation box 's item of wiki
Dear community and documentation team: During these past two weeks, I had invited many people to write introduction page on wiki. I am really thankful for their great work and for their help . Now , I have put most of the projects detail of opkg.org introduction site at following link: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Applications So, I have taken off the opkg link of navigation box on Wiki. You will be able to use Application page to find many useful application for Neo. Feel free to use this page , and I continuously invite people to write their project introduction page for wiki. In the future, if you have any other interesting program/application, please feel free to add it on the page. Thanks for your great support for your help! Brenda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Where can I find this game?
Can any body put this game's introduction page on wik? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Applications That will be great. Brenda Aapo Rantalainen ??: I tested openTTD in last summer on my Debian freerunner. Then it needs one-mouse-button-patch, but I think it is now merged to official. (somewhere in options-menu). Game was playable, when TransportTycoon deluxe was released all monitors are 640x480. Network-multiplaying works. Sound effects works, midi-audio didn't work. Packaging it is hard, because it needs propriety-data-files. (ok, debian etc. has packed it) But they are making also gpl-ed data-files, I do not know how ready this project is. -Aapo Rantalainen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMooCow 0.2
Can I invite you to put this on wiki? Like other ? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Applications#Games Brenda Thomas White ??: While waiting for the Christmas puddings to cook this afternoon, I've been making a few updates to OpenMooCow. You can get version 0.2 from the same place as before: http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~taw27/openmoko/openmoocow/ Changes since version 0.1 are: - Moos when tilted either up or down (not just after tilting both ways like before). This seems to be what people expect, even though it's not quite what I remember genuine mooboxes doing. - The packaging has been fixed to depend on the things it needs. - You can now press the cow to make her moo. - Mooing still occurs even if the graphics can't be shown. Run the following on a terminal and your Freerunner will be mooing until the next reboot: $ nohup openmoocow And some improvements under the hood: - It should behave a little better if the accelerometers are sticky. - Code simplified and altered to make it easier to add support for other types of accelerometer. OpenMooCow won't alter your accelerometer parameters in any way, so you might have a configuration which it doesn't like. In particular, the threshold setting can cause problems. If this happens to you, try this: # echo 0 /sys/devices/platform/lis302dl.2/threshold Comments or abuse to this address as ever, Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Google analytic records of November
Dear Documentation team, and Community: I update wiki google analytic records last month , you can check here. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wiki_statistic_numbers#November.2C_2008 Feel free to let me know , if any kind of number you want .I can export and update it on wiki. Brenda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Problem editing wiki
Hi, I am Openmoko Wiki editor, This problem seems caused by clouldTag extension, now we disabled this function. And while I edit wiki, it's OK now . So it fixed. Please let me know if it OK for you also. Brenda glownan ??: Thanks! Thomas Franck wrote: Hi.. I have a problem editing the wiki. [...] Is anyone else experiencing this? Do you know what can be causing it? Known problem.. see: http://n2.nabble.com/whitespace-going-missing-on-wikipages-td1479519ef1958.html#a1479519 -- Thomas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wiki: Applications page
Minh Ha Duong ??: Le jeudi 13 novembre 2008, BrendaWang a écrit : I would like to keep this page. People who want to find applications can use this page. And add any applications link here. If you are talking about /Applications, me too. Then, I would like to delete pages like following: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/List_of_Games http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/List_of_Audio_Applications Me too. Of course, we delete only AFTER all the applications listed are on the main /Applications page and in the opkg.org database. So it seems we agree ? Yes!!! Any different views ? Minh No. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wiki: Applications page
Minh Ha Duong ??: Le mardi 11 novembre 2008, BrendaWang a écrit : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Applications Hi all, Should we reconsider how we list applications in the wiki ? Yes, I agree. We had a discussion about it on the documentation mailing list, but that was last september. Now things have changed: opkg.org is up and running. I motion that - We keep the current Applications page in its existing format: listing style, one line per application, as comprehensive as possible, organized in sections. - We get rid of the List of X applications pages. Applications listed only there would have to - be moved to opkg.org and added to the Applications page, or - have their own page in the wiki (it's a non-exclusive OR) I would like to keep this page. People who want to find applications can use this page. And add any applications link here. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/List_of_Audio_Applications If they want to know the detail about any application of this page, all they need to do is press the link.Then can link to its detail page ex: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko-mediaplayer2 Then, I would like to delete pages like following: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/List_of_Games http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/List_of_Audio_Applications ... It looks redundant. Any other ideas? Minh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Wiki: Applications page
Dear community: Application page of Wiki is top four popular now. It lists many applications , and help us take a quick look of what applications we have now. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Applications But but some information of this page is not that clear. Some application only had short description . No source code link , no screen shot etc. like this http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/List_of_Games I would like to fix the Application page , and make this easy to use. If you want to help , you can check this page. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Applications_fix_list And help us fix the NO part. Or you are the owner of application , feel free to contact with me. Then I can upload the screen shot , correct the informations. I will continued update this fix list page. Feel free to let me know what I am missing? Brenda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
whitespace going missing on wikipages
Dear community: Recently , while you edit wiki pages, the white space at the beginning or end will be going missing. Once broken it's hard to fix with adding whitespace again. So , while you want to use the whitespace to format your code/command , please use pre ... /pre sytax. I guess this problem was cause by TagCloud extension. I already ask our IT Guys work on this , before they find the solution, feel free to use pre. Sorry for the inconvenient. Brenda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Google Android on Neo Freerunner?
Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson ??: Jake Beard wrote: Hi, this is my first post to the list. Now that Google has released the source code of Android, are there any plans to port it to the Neo Freerunner? Thanks, Jake ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Jake, There's already a whole thread about this titled Android open sourced. It appears that talks about porting have already started. -Shawn Yes, take a look on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/November_2nd%2C_2008#Images Android http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Android is coming to the FreeRunner. And you can check following link to the kernel and Image. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Download#Android http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Android ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
October Google analytic report of Wiki
Dear Documentation team and Community : I update the October google analytic report of of wiki, you can check it from this link. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wiki_statistic_numbers#October.2C_2008 By the way, Google Analytic have the new function , it can show you the new visits and return visits. So, I use this function . Brenda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: driver links on wiki not up to date
Tarandeep Gill ??: The links to drivers on the page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Hardware are not valid anymore, and lead to a Not Found page. Will somebody take care of this ? :) Yes, I will find out what happened with these links. Thank you for the reminding. Brenda - Taran Gill ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: uboot version? wiki not accurate
Helmut Tessarek ??: Hi, I'm still using my original uboot version and I think it is time to upgrade. Unfortunately the wiki seems not to be accurate, because it states the following: The latest bootloader binary builds can be found under http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/ . All versions of the GTA02 (Neo FreeRunner) that have been sold to the public are version 5 hardware, so look for a file with gta02 and v5 in the name, for example: uboot-gta02v5-latest.bin This is the listing of the above link: [ ] dfu-util22-Oct-2008 01:31 579K [ ] gta01bv4-lowlevel.bin 22-Oct-2008 01:31 280 [ ] gta01bv4-u-boot.bin 22-Oct-2008 01:31 214K [ ] gta02v5_and_up-lowlevel.bin 22-Oct-2008 01:31 308 [ ] gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin 22-Oct-2008 01:31 211K [ ] testing-om-gta01-20081021.rootfs.jffs2 22-Oct-2008 01:31 34M [ ] testing-om-gta01-20081021.rootfs.tar.gz 22-Oct-2008 01:31 28M [ ] testing-om-gta01-20081022.uImage.bin22-Oct-2008 01:31 1.7M [ ] testing-om-gta02-20081021.rootfs.jffs2 22-Oct-2008 01:31 41M [ ] testing-om-gta02-20081021.rootfs.tar.gz 22-Oct-2008 01:31 30M [ ] testing-om-gta02-20081022.uImage.bin22-Oct-2008 01:31 1.7M I assume that gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin is the correct image, but how can I be sure? Furthermore, what is gta02v5_and_up-lowlevel.bin? Is there a stable version of uboot, or are there only daily builds available? Helmut You mena in this page? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Uboot If it is. Can somebody feel free to fix it? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Openmoko Wiki :CategoryCloud Extension add
Dear All: Openmoko IT guys already add mediawiki extension Categorycloud. When you create a new page , or edit a page, you can use it to select the categories. And your new page will be put on the index page automatically. Brenda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Screenshots from wiki.openmoko.org
Tobias Kündig ??: Hello everyone I'm working for a free german Linux-Magazine called Yalmagazine (www.yalmagazine.org). We are publishing an article about the Openmoko Freerunner this month. I'm writing to ask you, if I may use some 2008.8 screenshots from the wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8 I'm sure someone on this list can answer my question. Thanks in advance, Tobias ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Hi , I am Openmoko Wiki editor. Brenda, can you tell me which image you want to use? I can offer you some. Feel free to contact with me. Brenda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Search engine improved.
Dear community: Openmoko IT guys had improved wiki search engine. Solutions was put Google Search extension on wiki site. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:GoogleSiteSearch Feedback welcome. Brenda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Google analytic records of September
Dear all: Here is the google analytic records of September: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wiki_statistic_numbers#September, 2008 Feel free to let me know , if I missed anything you want to know. Brenda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wallpaper artist anyone ?
Yes, I found this page get more picture today. And I like these design. :-) Welcome to join us. Brenda Minh Ha Duong ??: I see the artists and the CAD engineers are hot this week and like it. May I seize this opportunity to get your attention to: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Desktop_wallpaper_gallery which is a place to share Openmoko-themed full-screen high-quality images. So far we have only one, the Blueprints wallpaper. If you have other beautiful images and need help with the wiki, I can help posting it. Yours, Minh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Wiki page views
Dear community: I had updated the Google analytic report numbers of August for wiki . If you want to know the detail , please check following link : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wiki_statistic_numbers Or you want to get other report , you can mail me. Brenda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ Software Testing Report : 2008.08.07 ]
Wendy 提到: Dear community, here is the QA report which has been created before Om 2008.8 was released. We simply forgot to send this report to a public list because we were too busy with the release preparations. Sorry. More details about our bugs can be found in our bug tracker [http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/], and also check our wiki page [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Test_Cases] to understand our work and to contact us. Yes, you can access this report from left site of wiki. Just press TESTING. Brenda Currently we are working on a bugfix release which addresses the major issues you experienced. Stay tuned and thanks for you support, Wendy 主旨: [ Software Testing Report : 2008.08.07 ] 寄件者: Wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 日期: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 20:54:41 +0800 收件者 (To): [EMAIL PROTECTED] 收件者 (To): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi All, here are the major bugs from our latest image of Om 2008.8, - Out going call can not really disconnect by End Call if the other one did not pick up the call. - Some of the testing phone can not make phone calls but can receive/send SMS??? (With alert messageno network) - qpe crashed all the time in one of our testing phone. - Two of our phone can not wake up from suspend time. - WiFi can not work (show up unknown all the time) - Can't take GSM signal right away after on the device - [#1661] Unable to send saved tags by entering number (Locations) - [#1635] After x hours the call active will become unstable. Can't receive or make a phone call normally. Due to all these critical major bugs, from our testing team point of view: Not stable enough to release our Om 2008.8. Best Regards, Wendy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
TESTING page of wiki
Dear documentation team and community : The TESTING link of navigation bar on the left wiki, will reorg as test case and test report page. Most bugs reports from community and Openmoko testing team's test report will all put on this page. some major bugs that been found before Om 2008.8 release, will be easy to find on this page. If you are not sure it is a bug or not, you can also use this page to leave a message. Be feel free to use this page. Brenda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Wiki statistic numbers
Hi, all : I make a page , and put the google analytic number here for reference. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wiki_statistic_numbers Feel free to let me know what kind of statistics number is more useful? Then I will put this on this page. Brenda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
search for pages that contain external link
Hi, We enable the LinkSearch function of openmoko wiki. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LinkSearch This link allows to search for pages that contain external link. You can use this link from Special Page==Search Web link or use this link directly : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Linksearch Brenda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Edit wiki
Yes , I can add you .
But you should give me your google account first.
are you sure yarikoptic is the google account?
I guess they use e-mail addrress as google account's id.
Yaroslav Halchenko ??:
ha -- apparently Brenda could add my google account (yarikoptic) to see
the statistics 'online'
https://www.google.com/support/googleanalytics/bin/answer.py?answer=55500hl=en_USutm_id=ad
or otherwise I will just wait for an updated report (I guess smth like
last 2 weeks would be the best)
On Fri, 01 Aug 2008, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
due to restructuring of wiki which is ongoing (isn't it?) I guess it
would be great if there was a way to get access to up-to-date monthly
reports... and not in pdf although with pdftotext I can get a list of
titles with
grep -e '^\(URL\|.\/\).*wiki' attachment-0001.txt | sed -e 's/URL //g' -e
's/ \([^/]\)/\1/g' | tr ' ' '\n' | awk -F \/ '/\/wiki\//{print $3;}' | grep
-v Image
so may be later on somehow to automate their prefetching in tiddlywiki
wiki...
On Fri, 01 Aug 2008, Minh Ha Duong wrote:
Prior to making it into .ipkg, I wonder if there is a way to obtain
statistics on what articles on wiki are the most popular, so I could
prepopulate that file with such popular articles. We can't fetch full
wiki.openmoko.org since it would render .html huge.
Sure:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Popularpages
and June statistics (posted by Brenda on the community list)
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20080701/18ff1754/attachment-0001.pdf
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Re: Edit wiki
So, it can't work on mediawiki system? Openmoko wiki used media wiki. Yaroslav Halchenko ??: it is all features of tiddlywiki ;-) everything is done on client side (ie in the browser) thanks to Java Script ;-) all material (besides images) is contained within that very single .html file -- that is the beauty of it -- even search works ;-) On Fri, 01 Aug 2008, Brenda Wang wrote: You have a pretty nice menu( I mean , menu on the right side). How to do that? Does you put jave on server site? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Edit wiki
Yes, I can help it.
Can you give me your Google Account , then our IT can add you .
Brenda
Yaroslav Halchenko ??:
ha -- apparently Brenda could add my google account (yarikoptic) to see
the statistics 'online'
https://www.google.com/support/googleanalytics/bin/answer.py?answer=55500hl=en_USutm_id=ad
or otherwise I will just wait for an updated report (I guess smth like
last 2 weeks would be the best)
On Fri, 01 Aug 2008, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
due to restructuring of wiki which is ongoing (isn't it?) I guess it
would be great if there was a way to get access to up-to-date monthly
reports... and not in pdf although with pdftotext I can get a list of
titles with
grep -e '^\(URL\|.\/\).*wiki' attachment-0001.txt | sed -e 's/URL //g' -e
's/ \([^/]\)/\1/g' | tr ' ' '\n' | awk -F \/ '/\/wiki\//{print $3;}' | grep
-v Image
so may be later on somehow to automate their prefetching in tiddlywiki
wiki...
On Fri, 01 Aug 2008, Minh Ha Duong wrote:
Prior to making it into .ipkg, I wonder if there is a way to obtain
statistics on what articles on wiki are the most popular, so I could
prepopulate that file with such popular articles. We can't fetch full
wiki.openmoko.org since it would render .html huge.
Sure:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Popularpages
and June statistics (posted by Brenda on the community list)
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20080701/18ff1754/attachment-0001.pdf
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Re: WIKI still a POS
As Sean said , I really need more time to improve wiki . 1.Test cases is for Openmoko test team. I put it on main page , let them easy to find that. (That's why ). Yes, 90% of users won't use this link. I will discuss with our test team. Change the link to somewhere else. 2.Yes, from the very beginning , Software link, linked to Software category page, now , it link to Developer Guide. This page's aim is helping those new developer who want to join develop Softwares. Actually , in wiki , we had many page is talking about the software they want to share with others, I will make a link for them also. 3.My original idea is HARDWARE collect all page related to hardware. Neo 1973 and FR is alos belong to hardware. Actually , I want wiki have sub menu functions, just like drop down menu, or menu tree. That will do great help (I am survey now ). Brenda From Scott ??: The OM Wiki is still a prime example of 'How not to do a Wiki. a few easy example on the main page. 1.) On the main page is a link for Test cases, Why is this on the main page? Its useless to 90% of the users and should be under Development. 2.) There is a Software link that leads you the Developer Guide??? WTF? 3.) There is a Hardware link and the 1973 FR links. Why? Both the 1973 Fr pages have their respective hardware links on their pages. Its a classic misdirection. It looks like Openmoko wants the Neo to fail, because if the main source for information on how to operate the phone is this WIki, its doomed. Isn't there supposed to be some new Wiki Editor force around that was going to fix things? Scott ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Edit wiki
Hi, guys: I am really happy that many people join wiki editing job. And give me feedbacks. I just make these pages. EDIT WIKI is a page listed every information for edit wiki. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Edit_Wiki Wiki maintenance agenda is how I plan to reorg wiki. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wiki_Maintenance_Agenda More ideas , feeback and any kinds of editing will make wiki better and better. Be feel free to give me more feedback about this. Brenda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: wiki database error
Hi, Guys: Our IT already fix this. Does it still happened? Brenda matt joyce ??: I also got an error, trying to save a minor change. Database error From Openmoko Jump to: navigation http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Supportaction=submit#column-one, search http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Supportaction=submit#searchInput A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was: (SQL query hidden) from within function SearchMySQL4::update. MySQL returned error 126: Incorrect key file for table './wikidb/searchindex.MYI'; try to repair it (localhost). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wiki search
Dear all: Our IT guy already do this for us. Brenda Sven Klomp ??: The configuration parameter is ft_min_word_len=3 in my.ini. See http://kb.ucla.edu/articles/configuring-mediawiki-to-search-for-three-letter-words for more details. On Friday 18 July 2008 04:21:39 BrendaWang wrote: Can you give me the more information about modify the configuration ? That will be great help. Thenks Brenda Sven Klomp ??: Dear Brenda, please modify the configuration of the Openmoko wiki, so queries with less than four letters can be found. It might be helpful with all the abbreviations like ASU, FSO, SHR :-) Thanks Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
I delete the mispelling page. and keep the right page Please check it. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FreeRunner_unable_to_work_with_3G_SIM_cards Brenda Stroller ??: On 23 Jul 2008, at 22:55, Michael Shiloh wrote: Brenda has set up a wiki page to list these problem cards http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FreeRunner_unalbe_to_work_with_3G_SIM_cards (Roh, is it problematic to fix that spelling error?) Michael If you mean the misspelling of unalbe then the page was already moved some days ago: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FreeRunner_unable_to_work_with_3G_SIM_cards If you're accessing the page via the misspelled link (as quoted in your post above) then the page simply redirects to the correctly-spelled URL. On my browser the misspelling persists in the browser's address bar, but if you click on the edit link then you'll see that you're editing the correctly-spelled version of the page (and if, from the edit page you click on the page tab then it takes you back to the correctly-spelled URL). Stroller. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wiki editors
+0.75 I am not quite agree the no. 4 In the typical Chinese company, everything we need supervisor's permission. Supervisor always make the decision , them, we just follow it. If our supervisor doesn't make the devision, one thing you can do , is GUESS or remind him. But most of Chinese like guess than remind. :-D Brenda Marek Lindner ??: On Thursday, 17. July 2008 20:34:40 digger vermont wrote: - Mailing list fit into the Western style of communication not in the Eastern style. I'm curious, what would be the Eastern style? Eastern people try to avoid all public discussions for various reasons: - They don't want make other people loose their face. - They are educated not no say what they think. - They are afraid that they get fired (Openmoko one of the few exceptions here). - Often they have the feeling that their supervisor should make the decision and not them. So they wait in front of the problem, ignore it and hope it goes away. In contrast to that rumors and guessing is very popular here. :-) Marek PS: All that is a bit extreme but should you give a feeling. ;-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: In the press. The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of mostlyoutdated and incomplete documentation.
William Lai ??: On Jul 22, 2008, at 2:13 AM, Michael Shiloh wrote: Josh Monson wrote: Has the list been created? The wiki-editors mailing list? yes. it's called documentation. Michael/Brenda, Is there any type of organizational plan at this point in terms of whom will be doing what, no, although i look to the original 4-5 volunteers to lead the effort. and Brenda. In fact she has been actively 'leading' since day 1, before any of these discussions started. if you want to be involved, the procedure should be this: 1. join the documentation mailing list 2. respectfully listen for a bit, to see how the list flows 3. make your offer of assistance, and let the lead volunteers guide you. 4. if you have comments or suggestions, it would be polite to wait a little longer to see how the active participants communicate amongst themselves, how they identify and organize the work, and what they are actually doing. they are probably already aware of whatever comment or idea you have, and it would be impolite to push them. and will Brenda be coordinating the efforts I assume? no. Brenda is our official editor. She may not be coordinating, but she will be around, giving guidance even if needed. We have an internal effort to get content out of the wiki into a static page on openmoko.com referencing development and how to get started with the platform. Similar to: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_developer_guide. Brenda will lead this effort. If there are any ideas on what should or should not be in this material please pass it on to her. We see openmoko.com as an important place for newcomers to get a glimpse of what we are about, not just what we sell. Adding community efforts from the wiki just seemed like the next logical upgrade. Regards, Will Yes Brenda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wiki search
Our IT people already accepted my request. While he done this , I will let everybody know. Brenda Sven Klomp ??: The configuration parameter is ft_min_word_len=3 in my.ini. See http://kb.ucla.edu/articles/configuring-mediawiki-to-search-for-three-letter-words for more details. On Friday 18 July 2008 04:21:39 BrendaWang wrote: Can you give me the more information about modify the configuration ? That will be great help. Thenks Brenda Sven Klomp ??: Dear Brenda, please modify the configuration of the Openmoko wiki, so queries with less than four letters can be found. It might be helpful with all the abbreviations like ASU, FSO, SHR :-) Thanks Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: wiki database error
Thanks, all. I will report this to our IT. Brenda Dale Schumacher ??: On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 8:08 AM, koebi [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just wanted to let somebody know that today, after an edit on the wiki, I got a database error message: --- Database error ... nevertheless, the changes I made were applied. the page I edited was a subsection of http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_Local_Groups:_Munich regards koebi I got a similar error yesterday. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wiki search
It's a very helpful idea. I will ask our IT to do this. thanks Brenda matt joyce ??: Perhaps it's the databse config, not the wiki. http://kb.ucla.edu/articles/configuring-mediawiki-to-search-for-three-letter-words BrendaWang wrote: Can you give me the more information about modify the configuration ? That will be great help. Thenks Brenda Sven Klomp ??: Dear Brenda, please modify the configuration of the Openmoko wiki, so queries with less than four letters can be found. It might be helpful with all the abbreviations like ASU, FSO, SHR :-) Thanks Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wiki editors
I am wiki full time editor now. Here is the what I done these month. 1. Openmoko wiki system is Media wiki 1.2, since we upgrade our wiki system, month ago , I start to ask our IT put the extension on wiki. For example, category tree extension. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryTree Now , everyone can use the tag, like this categorytree mode=pagesCategory name/categorytree 2.About read wiki offline (dump), actually , I already ask our IT do this since 4, July. I will push them. This function is very useful . 3. I would like to put the Youtube extension , then we can see the video on wiki. I would like to know if this useful ? Personal opinion , I like to have this. 4. I admit that , to the beginner , it is not easy to know how much useful page , they can find on wiki . So, I make a page name Openmoko official Index page. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_Wiki_Official_Index_Page 5. Then , I classify every pages of wiki , put the category on them, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_Wiki_Categories_Index_Page 6.It's great that have many people help me to maintain wiki page. In fact , Too many page, hard to verify if this page is out of date? Even , I use google analytic , it just can tell which page is popular , but can't tell if the content is correct or not. I plan to put the rating function on wiki. Perhape it can help many people who visit wiki , know how other people think this page is useful or not. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:JSKitRating 7.I would like to have a page like for developer, everyone who is the beginner , want to join and develop software, and use this page to get every material they want . It just like a book , and has catalog like this: Part I Choose your software develop tool Part III Running your program Part IV Program sharing Part V Install Part VI Tools used on Openmoko Here is the page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_developer_guide Actually , 6,7 is my plan now, have more people edit the wiki page, make content become more correct and useful , will be great help . Brenda. ian douglas ??: Michael Shiloh wrote: I will help support you in any way I can. Yes, we can absolutely set up a mailing list for you to coordinate amongst yourselves. I will also make myself more immediately available to the wiki editors, so that questions can be answered as rapidly as possible. Hiya Michael, Quick question: what exactly is Brenda's role? http://openmoko.markmail.org/search/?q=brenda#query:brenda%20date%3A200802%20+page:1+mid:cancdihaeug2s7x2+state:results This leads me to believe it's Brenda's full-time job (as in, employment), to be the wiki editor, organize the articles, etc., so we certainly would value her insights and opinions. We certainly aren't trying to muscle in on her territory, but just willing to lend a hand to what is a daunting, gigantic challenge of finding and editing a LOT of information. Secondly, Michael can you coordinate with whoever is in charge of the wiki software to include the plugin I mentioned last night: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DumpHTML One of my own agenda points as a wiki editor is to get an offline-capable version of the wiki available for download to install on the SD card -- perhaps we could even build it up as an opkg documentation bundle or something. That'd be slick, with opkg update opkg upgrade being able to upgrade the documentation on the phone. Wiki editors, do you have a request for the list name? How about openmoko-wiki-editors? Since openmoko is already in the domain name, perhaps just [EMAIL PROTECTED] would be sufficient? -id ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wiki search
Can you give me the more information about modify the configuration ? That will be great help. Thenks Brenda Sven Klomp ??: Dear Brenda, please modify the configuration of the Openmoko wiki, so queries with less than four letters can be found. It might be helpful with all the abbreviations like ASU, FSO, SHR :-) Thanks Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wiki Index was Re: Wiki editors
Hi, I would like to let you know , how this Index page formed. At the very beginning, I just use the Special Page's function , All page 's function. Name space :Main Then put every link into Index page. Because of wiki is a system , anyone can edit and create a new page . It growing up everyday. So, after this , my routine job is check the Recent Change everyday , then , put the new page , into Index page. I can tell you what the way I used, to make most of page organized. But I don't think I can arbitrary judge these pages is outdated . I 'd rather say, some are popular and others are not. Brenda Scott Derrick ??: It appears that th index is already out of date. I was just looking at this locker program http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Quicksand#zedlock looked under software and Nada! Are we aware it is out of date? How many other pages aren't listed? This is a big problem Scott BrendaWang wrote: I am wiki full time editor now. Here is the what I done these month. 1. Openmoko wiki system is Media wiki 1.2, since we upgrade our wiki system, month ago , I start to ask our IT put the extension on wiki. For example, category tree extension. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryTree Now , everyone can use the tag, like this categorytree mode=pagesCategory name/categorytree 2.About read wiki offline (dump), actually , I already ask our IT do this since 4, July. I will push them. This function is very useful . 3. I would like to put the Youtube extension , then we can see the video on wiki. I would like to know if this useful ? Personal opinion , I like to have this. 4. I admit that , to the beginner , it is not easy to know how much useful page , they can find on wiki . So, I make a page name Openmoko official Index page. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_Wiki_Official_Index_Page 5. Then , I classify every pages of wiki , put the category on them, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_Wiki_Categories_Index_Page 6.It's great that have many people help me to maintain wiki page. In fact , Too many page, hard to verify if this page is out of date? Even , I use google analytic , it just can tell which page is popular , but can't tell if the content is correct or not. I plan to put the rating function on wiki. Perhape it can help many people who visit wiki , know how other people think this page is useful or not. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:JSKitRating 7.I would like to have a page like for developer, everyone who is the beginner , want to join and develop software, and use this page to get every material they want . It just like a book , and has catalog like this: Part I Choose your software develop tool Part III Running your program Part IV Program sharing Part V Install Part VI Tools used on Openmoko Here is the page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_developer_guide Actually , 6,7 is my plan now, have more people edit the wiki page, make content become more correct and useful , will be great help . Brenda. ian douglas ??: Michael Shiloh wrote: I will help support you in any way I can. Yes, we can absolutely set up a mailing list for you to coordinate amongst yourselves. I will also make myself more immediately available to the wiki editors, so that questions can be answered as rapidly as possible. Hiya Michael, Quick question: what exactly is Brenda's role? http://openmoko.markmail.org/search/?q=brenda#query:brenda%20date%3A200802%20+page:1+mid:cancdihaeug2s7x2+state:results This leads me to believe it's Brenda's full-time job (as in, employment), to be the wiki editor, organize the articles, etc., so we certainly would value her insights and opinions. We certainly aren't trying to muscle in on her territory, but just willing to lend a hand to what is a daunting, gigantic challenge of finding and editing a LOT of information. Secondly, Michael can you coordinate with whoever is in charge of the wiki software to include the plugin I mentioned last night: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DumpHTML One of my own agenda points as a wiki editor is to get an offline-capable version of the wiki available for download to install on the SD card -- perhaps we could even build it up as an opkg documentation bundle or something. That'd be slick, with opkg update opkg upgrade being able to upgrade the documentation on the phone. Wiki editors, do you have a request for the list name? How about openmoko-wiki-editors? Since openmoko is already in the domain name, perhaps just [EMAIL PROTECTED] would be sufficient? -id ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo
Re: Wiki editors
+1 :-) Brenda Michael Shiloh ??: Marek Lindner wrote: On Thursday, 17. July 2008 08:25:54 Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: BTW, has anyone asked Brenda if she wants in on this? And have time for it? Happy to see that you bring that point up. I had a long and healthy discussion with her. The bottom line is: - She really appreciates your wish to help and gladly accepts it. - Mailing list fit into the Western style of communication not in the Eastern style. - Next to the cultural difference a flood of mails in English is a problem. A list would be less an issue if the list language would be Chinese or any other similar language as Japanese, Hongkongnese, etc (which is not realistic but should show the point). ;-) - Probably she will read the list but never post anything unless you directly address her (again cultural differences). My suggestion: Create your favorite communication channel. She probably will follow it but not become an active part in it. Once you have finishd your discussion send the result to her directly. We still try to help the Eastern people to understand and accept Western behaviour. That needs time. Meanwhile try to understand and support them. Greetings, Marek Thanks for your insight Marek. I plan on being actively involved in this experiment and will actively seek the best way to help our wiki maintenance volunteers, Brenda, the company at large, and the community at large move towards a more useful wiki. Suggestions accepted :-) Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wiki editors. Citation needed?
Stroller ??:
On 17 Jul 2008, at 08:24, BrendaWang wrote:
...
3. I would like to put the Youtube extension , then we can see the video
on wiki. I would like to know if this useful ? Personal opinion , I like
to have this.
I'm unclear why an extension is needed - can't YouTube videos simply
be embedded using HTML? - and don't see *massive* benefits to YouTube
videos on the wiki.
But I don't see any disadvantages to having YouTube videos on the
wiki, either. Go for it.
Actually , I had ask our IT do this already, let wait for a while, they
need to evaluate it.
For example , if this will affect security or anything else.
I plan to put the rating function on wiki. Perhape it can help many
people who visit wiki , know how other people think this page is useful
or not.
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:JSKitRating
This is a great idea!
Thanks for the feed back.
Also:
Does the current wiki software allow for templates, like Wikipedia?
Sorry if this is obvious - perhaps the Openmoko wiki uses exactly the
same software as Wikipedia?
For instance, sentences in many Wikipedia articles are marked with the
words citation needed - I see from a little searching that this
superscript is added when someone edits the page to include the tag
{{cn}} or {{fact}}. Presumably there is a page automatically generated
somewhere (I can't immediately find this) which shows all pages using
that tag and this one can easily see all pages requiring fact-checking.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Fact
I feel that a similar feature would be useful for the Openmoko wiki -
it should probably display fact check? rather than citation needed
and new users should be encouraged to mark any sections they are
unsure of or any steps in the HOWTOs that don't work when they follow
them.
Likewise I think there should be a template for software entries which
indicates which firmware images - ASU, 2007.2 c - the page applies
to. Just as the Wikipedia entry for the Lotus Elise has an inset which
states it to mid-engined and rear-wheel drive, each software page
should say whether the article is *about* one of the core firmwares,
whether it is steps that can be applied to firmwares FSO ASU (but
not to 2007.2, because that one is incompatible with, say, gpsd) or
whether it's software that can be *installed* on the FSO ASU images
(but is preinstalled on 2007.2).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_Elise
Perhaps I'm horribly confused, but if my horrible confusion over the
different images at least has the correct basis then this would be
very beneficial to users.
Stroller.
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Re: In the press
Dear Matt: Openmoko Wiki just like WIKIPEDIA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki Wiki) is a public place everyone can create page , and edit. Actually , on Openmoko wiki, we have thousand pages. Some topic(page) is very popular , many people maintains the same page, so it updated soon. And some page takes long time to complete, so difficult to tell if this page is complete or not? Here is the rule I used , 1.To use the wiki History function, find out this page's status. 2.Pages only have title, no content, more then half years, no one edit , I delete it. Then , if anyone , want to create this topic, can create the new page , anytime. 3.Use Google Analytic , to tell which page is most popular , and mail Google analytic page view report to community mailing list. Brenda Openmoko Wiki has thousand pages, Matt Joyce ??: I found this yesterday, thought it was quite an ok article. http://arstechnica.com/reviews/os/open-moko-software.ars This stood out for me *The tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation at the OpenMoko wiki*... Is this an accurate evaluation of the wiki ? If so, what can we do to fix it up, how do we identify old content and schedule it for updating? Matt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: In the press
Jay Vaughan ??: This stood out for me The tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation at the OpenMoko wiki... Is this an accurate evaluation of the wiki ? If so, what can we do to fix it up, how do we identify old content and schedule it for updating? I think, personally, its time for a 3rd-party site not related to OpenMoko to pick up the slack here. So much stuff happens too quickly for people who /should/ be updating the wiki to feel like its productive to do so .. What I would like to see is something like an mokofanboix.org website come up that has the following: - Daily blog news akin to the good ol' slashdot, of news from the openmoko scene, gleaned from careful inspection of the mailing lists, of IRC, of the codebase, of code delta's, etc. - Public free Repository of all the latest and greatest 'cool apps' found for OpenMoko You can check here to get more about the free Repository http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/CommunityRepository - Public forum for discussion of the news. This is, of course, sorta what we've got with things like planet.openmoko.org (which I check daily), combined with the Scaredycat repo's and other such things, but .. for newcomers .. I don't think any of this is as easily approachable as it would be if it were all put under a single umbrella that is a bit more of an 'openmoko pop culture' site than what we've got right now .. ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: In the press
About the public forum for discussion of the news, here is the page on wiki , might help. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Discussion_Forums matt joyce ??: Jay Vaughan wrote: This stood out for me The tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation at the OpenMoko wiki... Is this an accurate evaluation of the wiki ? If so, what can we do to fix it up, how do we identify old content and schedule it for updating? I think, personally, its time for a 3rd-party site not related to OpenMoko to pick up the slack here. So much stuff happens too quickly for people who /should/ be updating the wiki to feel like its productive to do so .. What I would like to see is something like an mokofanboix.org website come up that has the following: - Daily blog news akin to the good ol' slashdot, of news from the openmoko scene, gleaned from careful inspection of the mailing lists, of IRC, of the codebase, of code delta's, etc. - Public free Repository of all the latest and greatest 'cool apps' found for OpenMoko - Public forum for discussion of the news. This is, of course, sorta what we've got with things like planet.openmoko.org (which I check daily), combined with the Scaredycat repo's and other such things, but .. for newcomers .. I don't think any of this is as easily approachable as it would be if it were all put under a single umbrella that is a bit more of an 'openmoko pop culture' site than what we've got right now .. ; -- Jay Vaughan I agree. Regardless though, an out of date wiki is not helpful. What approaches can we take to fix up the wiki ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: In the press. The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation.
Make pages easy to find is always the first priority of wiki management. I agree with you . Openmoko wiki has thousands of pages, not easy to find everything. So, we just made a Index page, every page will listed on it. Then , I had made each wiki page of Openmoko had their own category since Feb, 2008. These will help people easy to find the pages. Brenda Scott Derrick ??: Perhaps this is what you seek? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions This is a great page, one of the gems hidden in the bowels of the OM Wiki. Its also a great example of whats wrong with the Wiki. But how do I find it? Its not listed on the home page, not on the FreeRunner page, not on the getting started page?Unless I search for exactly teh right word or combinations of words I would never know it existed... The only link I could find, after I knew it existed was Software/distributions/distributions.. There has to be some kind of boiler plate format for the design and layout of the Wiki so things are easier to find. You can't rely on the search engine, it sucks.. I think that was the point of the person who recommended the OpenWRT Wiki. Its design and format was easy to use and helped you find things instead of thwarting you. Scott ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: External Cell Antenna
Hi , This page is FreeRunner GPS antenna repair SOP. Provide by Tim. (Openmoko hardware engineer). http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FreeRunner_GPS_antenna_repair_SOP About the software site , I listed the topic we had on wiki below: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPS_Sight http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPS_Problems http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_GPS_console_output_with_gllin http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_GPS http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Category:GPS Brenda steve ??: Brenda runs the wiki. Brenda can you point to this? Or Michael do yu have this on your blog -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Derrick Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 4:49 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: External Cell Antenna Yes it would! A list of connectors would be nice too. Scott steve wrote: Well, perhaps We should consider releasing PDFs of the schematics. Would that help? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Derrick Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 6:49 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: External Cell Antenna I was hoping the external ant port on the FreeRunner was for the cell modem and was disappointed to find out it was for the GPS. Any diagrams available on how to add an antenna port myself? What contacts to solder to, etc... Will I need a switch to enable an external antenna or will it just use it? Scott ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Openmoko Wiki Page Views , June
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Browsers Report of Wiki (June)
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Re: FreeRunner Quick Start User Guide
Here is the getting start guide from wiki. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner Shakthi Kannan 提到: Hi! --- On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | One comment on Chapter 7: | Currently, the utility dfu_util is only provided for Linux. Support for | dfu_util under Windows and Macintosh will be provided at a later date. | | That is not accurate (at least for OSX). See: | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MacOS_X | There is also an Openmoko Flasher tool for the Macintosh since August 2007. \-- Thanks! Updated the documentation. The wiki documentation is comprehensive, and I feel just pointers to links and necessary documentation to get people started should be kept in this Quick Start User Guide. The User Manual can contain the complete documentation available in the wiki. Just my thoughts, SK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Announcement--Wiki skin
Dear all: For the easy management sack, from now on, the wiki skin will only keep default skins Openmoko template. Sorry for any inconvenience. Brenda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Hardware Block Diagram
Here is the detail spec of GTA02 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware Dale Schumacher 提到: I've done several searches on the wiki and I can't seem to find any block diagram of the Freerunner hardware. Is there any such thing? It would sure help to clarify how all this stuff is connected. -- Forwarded message -- From: Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 09:29:36 +0100 Subject: Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo ... We would rightly deserve to get our asses laughed at if we did that. You're likely thinking about the actual SD Card interface is now via the Glamo, which has an SD interface poking out of it. WIFI is hooked to the CPU SDIO bus and we don't otherwise use these buses. | If it's connected to the address/data bus, why is it so slow and why can't | DMA be used to copy data to it? DMA can be used, I seem to recall someone saying they did something with it in Xglamo, but PIO isn't where the problems are coming from. The Glamo offers normal async memory bus interface which we use, but it has a bunch of timing constraints. (There is a synchronous burst bus mode that we don't use because the CPU doesn't support it and adding a CPLD in there to translate will eat power and doesn't make sense.) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Browser Report of Wiki
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Top Content page view of wiki
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Re: Request for stable, automated build process
Dear all: After one weeks great work. Julien had release the new toolchain release. please take a look of this Page. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain Bobby Martin ??: From: Ian Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I did mention when I jumped in that I was talking about a slightly different problem than what you seem to be trying to solve. That said... Storing your MD5s will let you know *if* you are repeating a build. It will not (reasonably) let you repeat a build. You completely misunderstood what I said. Storing the file name, URL *and* its MD5 lets you be sure you are able to reproduce the build. And it's the only way you can (well, we actually use SHA's and RMD's in addition to MD5's). If I misunderstood it, I still do. MD5 absolutely will not help you reproduce a build. It will only help you verify that your procedure (whatever it is) retrieved the same files. It won't help you find the correct file if the file you got was wrong. It does not guarantee to build *exactly* the same binary, but you can *never ever* make that guarantee in general because of changes to shared libraries (in the Java world you have a greater chance, but even then, even the smallest point upgrade to the JDK could in theory change the generated .class files), so there is really no point whatever using MD5's on generated binaries. None. I have no idea why Hudson bothers, if that's what it's using them for. You need some way of identifying the file you want to build *to the revision control system* (so you can download that version) if you want repeatable builds. In the case I'm talking about - where there are about 5,000 different external programs from about 2,500 different sources - you don't even think about going to the revision control system (6 or 8 different services over 2,000 different hosts). You can ONLY think in terms of ftp/http download of version-numbered tarballs. Period. No, you MOSTLY think in terms of ftp/http download. For the projects on which you're doing work (at least) you absolutely go to the revision control system. Are we talking about the same thing? I'm talking about a repeatable build so I can do development work, modifying existing code. To do that, you'd better work with the revision control system. Even if you don't have submit access (which the vast majority of devs probably shouldn't have), in some cases you have a RCS that supports creating smart diffs that you can send to someone to review submit trivially (e.g. git or darcs) and in other cases you almost certainly want to submit a patch from the latest possible revision. MD5s sound nice to verify, if you don't trust your revision control system (or perhaps the admins ;-) See above for why revision control is completely irrelevant to us. Who is 'us'? Bobby -- If it doesn't make you smile, you're doing something wrong. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Top 100 content of Wiki
Dear All: Attached file is the top 100 content of wiki. Period:Since 1,april to 07,May. Brenda Analytics_wiki[1].openmoko.org_20080401-20080507_(TopContentReport).pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Browser report of Wiki
Dear All: Attached file is the Browser report of WIKI. Period : 1, April~7,May Brenda Analytics_wiki[1].openmoko.org_20080407-20080507_(BrowsersReport).pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Our new Main page of wiki
Dear Steve: I notice that you edited the Main page of wiki. The wording is better then me. I like it. Thank you for doing this. But I don't understand why you took off the sentence below Join Openmoko development? And development board--QT2410? Can you tell me why? Actually , I know that our main page is too long. I would like to make whole wiki site become short and organized. But technically , I can't solve that problem in a very short time. I just used the Google Analytic to find out the most popular page , then I use the box, put the link all together. Use the aggressive color and put the categories page on side bar, to make pages easy to find. I also use the Google Analytic to find out the most popular browser, use the right tag, make sure most of them can use wiki more easily. I got a lot of feedback here. And now , Gismo is helping us to upgrade our wiki system. After wiki system had been upgraded , I would start to work on server site. For example , I would like to change the wiki skin. And page structure. I think I would need technical support. And I will ask anyone who can help me. Anyway, the real meaning of Wiki is collaboration. Thank for you help , and hope you can understand what I am doing now. Brenda And I like it. :-) steve ??: It's getting there. -Original Message- From: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 8:15 PM To: steve Cc: 'List for Openmoko community discussion' Subject: Re: Our new Main page of wiki On Fri, 2 May 2008 17:13:06 -0700 steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: indeed - it's not bad. no complaints. just observation. :) we all have got lots of things to do... :) Yes, It is a bit long. And it always has been. Brenda is working the Structure of the site ( like Edward scissorshand trimming kudzu) and I told wolfgang I would do my marketing thing on the front page. I will of course make some suggestions on organization and structure ( you know me raster ) but for now, I will let it rest, as I have other matters to attend to. The current structure is rhapsodic and so is not easily maintained, especially as new products come out. So, I'll share some thoughts later. Laconically yours, Steve -Original Message- From: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 5:03 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Cc: steve Subject: Re: Our new Main page of wiki On Fri, 2 May 2008 14:25:18 -0700 steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: seems ok to me, though a little long :) but that's how it has been for a while. :) In any case I did a quick copy edit of the front page. Have a look, I will probably polish it some more later on and add some of my writing from the .com. PS, Raster is right. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 12:55 AM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Cc: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) Subject: Re: Our new Main page of wiki Am Fr 2. Mai 2008 schrieb Carsten Haitzler: On Thu, 1 May 2008 13:35:24 -0400 Nick Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: I think it's a little ridiculous to leave it when at least she takes the initiative to do something. Sure - Brenda does not speak English as a native language. You are free to fix it up with your perfect English intuition. It is a wiki after all. Perhaps she might help you with your good, yet not so perfect chinese? :) Seriously. I have learnt several languages. I know how hard it is to speak a foreign language. It is damned hard. It's even harder when the language is of a completely different language school (i.e. European vs. Asian languages). The fact that someone can communicate as well as Brenda can, in a foreign language, is simply amazing. It is a mountain of work. Everyone should be as supportive as possible. It is no easy task. The fact that English is just the de-facto one for Open source, should not mean it has to be perfect and written by natives. If it can be understood then it has done a great job already. I clap my hands for Brenda and say keep going and thumbs up for making such a good job of it! ???! :) ACK! The new wiki-mainpage is way better than what it was before. Thanks Brenda! :-) /jOERG ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Carsten
Re: Request for stable, automated build process
There are some documentation you can find on wiki. Here is the links. OpenEmbeded is used to make the distribution. BitBake is the useful command of OE, and being used to build and maintain a number of embedded Linux distributions. You can use this. Now, we mainly use this. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenEmbedded http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/BitBake You can use a prebuilt toolchain from the Openmoko project. Now Julien is work on this. We are contact with OE , so maybe few days later, we can have new release. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain And from the page , about the MokoMakefile, MokoMakefile is developed by Rod Whitby /wiki/User:RodWhitby - it is not an official product of OpenMoko , you can also get information form this. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile#Requirements_for_building_Openmoko These page might be helpful . And it 's wiki. If you the information is too old , you can modify it . And we can work out the solution together. Brenda Bobby Martin 提到: On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Bobby Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Thomas Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, there is buildhost.openmoko.org http://buildhost.openmoko.org which builds images nightly. I've been asking for the toolchain to be fixed and updated and I believe Julian has this on his TODO list. Regards, Thomas Thanks for pointing that out. Does it apply a label to builds that succeed? Is there documentation of what this hypothetical label might be, and also documentation of the build process that buildhost.openmoko.org http://buildhost.openmoko.org uses? (Hrm, reading over that, it looks like I'm trying to be sarcastic with the thanks. I'm definitely not! The thanks, and the questions, are real, not rhetorical.) I should point out that if I knew the right way to run a build (I think there are three possible ways) and could actually get a build to go through at least once in a while, I would volunteer a server and the effort to set up continuous integration. My time is pretty restricted, so it might take me a fairly long time to get it all done, but I am willing to do the work if I can get answers to the basic questions. Bobby -- If it doesn't make you smile, you're doing something wrong. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Weekly Wiki Page Views
To all: Here is the wiki weekly page views and editing events. The number is from Google Analytics. WIKI Page View Period Page Views Event 24~30, Mar 18,274 1. Started to put the google analyic on wik 2. Editing Index page 31,Mar~6,April 18,101 1.Make the pages into right categories 7~13,April 19,166 1.Chinese Traslation Plan 14~20,April 23,313 1.Started Edit Main Page 21~26,April(6DAY) 23,066 1.Edit Menu Bar 2.Switched Main page New visitor is 58.76% Returning visitor is is 41.24% Regards Brenda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
