Re: QtExtended 4.4.2 : GPRS

2008-11-03 Thread Chris Samuel
On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 6:15:13 am Nishit Dave wrote:

 However, what I am trying to work out is why the browser or anything else
 can't connect to the internet.  I tried your advise to use the server
 assigned dns, but it is not working.

Don't know if this is any help, but there is a list of mobile providers and 
the info they use as part of Gnome here:

http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/mobile-broadband-provider-
info/trunk/serviceproviders.xml?view=markup

I stumbled across it when I upgraded my Kubuntu laptop to the then Intrepid 
(8.10) development version and one day when I was in the UK the Network 
Manager packages pulled in the mobile-broadband-provider-info in.

http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/intrepid/mobile-broadband-provider-info

NetworkManager works out of the box on that laptop with a Three 3G modem. :-)

Might be a handy package for OM/QE, etc..

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[QtExtended] Synchronizing contacts from Kontact in KDE4 ?

2008-11-03 Thread Chris Samuel
Hi all,

Does anyone know if it is currently possible to set up any form of 
synchronisation to/from Kontact in KDE4 and QT Extended ?

Currently I just grab my contacts in VCF3 format and scp them over,
but then I noticed the synchronisation agent, but looking at the docs it 
appears it only supports MS Outlook on Windoze.. :-(

http://doc.trolltech.com/qtextended4.4/qtopiadesktop/over-desktop-
synchronization-1.html

Anyone know of a way of (ab)using this (or any other system) to sync to and 
from Kontact ?

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Re: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2

2008-11-06 Thread Chris Samuel
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:10:05 pm Kishore wrote:

 I use the gsmhandset.state file that was posted here some time ago. With
 this combination, I have a usable phone and calls are taken with the
 handset and not speaker (as used to be the case with the 4.4.1 release).

I ran into the same issue with the newer image so I'll have to go dig through 
the archives to find that (only been on this list a short time, though I've had 
the phone since September), thanks for the pointer!

Anyone have a link handy ?

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Re: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2

2008-11-06 Thread Chris Samuel
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 6:40:04 am Warren Baird wrote:

   - speakerphone mode didn't work - I think this is also a regression from
 4.4.1.   

Hmm, that seemed to work happily for me, there was quite a noticeble difference 
between the two modes.

In fact *incoming* calls sound like they're using the external speaker by 
default (and hence get lots of feedback), in contrast to outgoing ones that 
sound just great.

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Re: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2

2008-11-06 Thread Chris Samuel
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 2:23:03 am Kishore wrote:

 As is a classic case, I missed the attachment! ;)

Thanks for that, I'll play with it today.

Does QT 4.4.2 not use the AT command that was recently discovered to activate 
the echo canceller / noise reduction feature of calypso ?

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Re: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2

2008-11-07 Thread Chris Samuel
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 7:19:05 am Chris Samuel wrote:

 On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 2:23:03 am Kishore wrote:

  As is a classic case, I missed the attachment! ;)

 Thanks for that, I'll play with it today.

Works rather nicely, thanks!

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Re: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2

2008-11-08 Thread Chris Samuel
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 11:40:15 pm Tha_Man wrote:

 According to Lorn Potter, it does. And as you wrote earlier in this thread,
 it only appears to send these commands with outgoing calls, since incoming
 calls still have the echo (and the phone set to handsfree/speaker instead
 of handset).

Yup, just seen that in the QT Extended sources in:

  devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp

Looking at the code in that file I'm wondering if a better place to put the
command to set the echo suppression is in NeoSimInfo::requestIdentity()
as that seems to be called occasionally to get the SIM info.

Alternatively it could go into the NeoCallProvider::cpiNotification() code 
after it calls hangupRemote() to set it ready for the next call and make sure 
it gets set in NeoModemService::initialize() ready for the first use.

The reason I say that is because the original patch put this into the QTE 
libraries rather than in the Neo specific code.

 I'm curious about the alsa-settings that were posted by Kishore, what do
 they exactly fix? As I understand it would fix incoming calls being set to
 speaker (instead of handset), right?

Apparently so, as well as reducing the maximum volume on the handset.

Thing is looking at the diff of the original and fixed versions I can't see how 
it fixes it to use the handset rather than the speakerphone!

--- gsmhandset.state.orig   Wed Sep  3 10:14:56 2008
+++ gsmhandset.stateFri Nov  7 06:55:33 2008
@@ -36,8 +36,8 @@
comment.range '0 - 127'
iface MIXER
name 'Speaker Playback Volume'
-   value.0 120
-   value.1 120
+   value.0 100
+   value.1 100
}
control.5 {
comment.access 'read write'
@@ -46,7 +46,7 @@
comment.range '0 - 127'
iface MIXER
name 'Mono Playback Volume'
-   value 103
+   value 85
}
control.6 {
comment.access 'read write'
@@ -456,7 +456,7 @@
comment.range '0 - 3'
iface MIXER
name 'Mic2 Capture Volume'
-   value 0
+   value 1
}
control.49 {
comment.access 'read write'


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Re: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2

2008-11-11 Thread Chris Samuel

- Pander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 really, mine is out of power in about 8 hours :( but I'm using 4.4.2
 with mwester's kernel.

I'm using the same but it's working fine for battery
life as a phone for me, I can run it for probably about
36 hours without needing to charge it (though having
read the comments about Li batteries I might charge it
overnight as a matter of principle now).

In the power management I've set the brightness to about
half, dim after 10 seconds, display off after 20 seconds
and suspend after 30 seconds.

Not had issues with it coming out of suspend (yet).

Not tried to use Wifi with it.

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[Qt Extended] [RFC] Patch for comments *only* to enable echo suppression in 4.4.2

2008-11-11 Thread Chris Samuel
Hi folks,

On the flight from Melbourne to LA I was playing around getting
Qt Extended 4.4.2 to build for the Neo using their toolchain and
sources.   Luckily the Qantas A380 has Australian power sockets
for passengers in economy so battery life was not a worry!

The reason for this is that I wanted to try to follow up on
my previous comments on turning on echo suppression for
incoming calls in addition to outgoing which it already does.

To do that I abstracted the existing AT commands into a
single function and then called that from (I hope) the
phone initialisation, wake from suspend and hanging up
or aborting an incoming call.

The patch compiled first time but I've discovered that I've
left my USB cable behind and so can't test it (luckily I've
brought the charger with me!).

I've posted this for comments only because:

1) I'm not a programmer
2) I don't know C++ (just B and C)
3) I've no idea if what I've done covers all the necessary
points it needs to be set at..
4) I don't want to risk destroying anyone elses phone!

So take a look at what I've done and comment on it please.

Just be gentle..

cheers!
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--- qt-extended-4.4.2/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp	2008-10-24 16:42:04.0 +1100
+++ build/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp	2008-11-10 17:44:27.0 +1100
@@ -94,6 +94,7 @@
 
 // We never managed to connect.
 hangupRemote( call );
+NeoCallProvider::echoCancel();
 
 } else if ( status == 2  call 
 call-state() == QPhoneCall::Dialing ) {
@@ -107,6 +108,7 @@
 
 // This is an indication that the connection has been lost.
 hangupRemote( call );
+NeoCallProvider::echoCancel();
 
 } else if ( ( status == 1 || status == 7 )  call 
 call-state() == QPhoneCall::Incoming ) {
@@ -148,13 +150,19 @@
 call-emitNotification( QPhoneCall::CallingName, name );
 }
 
-QString NeoCallProvider::dialVoiceCommand(const QDialOptions options) const
+void NeoCallProvider::echoCancel( void )
 {
 // do undocumented echo cancellation and noise reduction
 
 modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( [EMAIL PROTECTED]-26\ );
 modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( AT%N028B );
 modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( AT%N0125 );
+}
+
+
+QString NeoCallProvider::dialVoiceCommand(const QDialOptions options) const
+{
+NeoCallProvider::echoCancel();
 return QModemCallProvider::dialVoiceCommand(options);
 }
 
@@ -556,6 +564,9 @@
 chat( AT+CREG=2 );
 chat( AT+CGREG=2 );
 
+// Reset the echo cancellation and noise reduction.
+NeoCallProvider::echoCancel();
+
 QTimer::singleShot(200, this, SLOT(sendRego()));
 }
 
@@ -682,6 +693,9 @@
 // Turn on %CNAP notifications, which supply the caller's
 // name on an call.  Only supported on some networks.
 chat( AT%CNAP=1 );
+
+// Reset the echo cancellation and noise reduction.
+NeoCallProvider::echoCancel();
 }
 
 void NeoModemService::sendSuspendDone()
@@ -738,6 +752,9 @@
 
 // Re-enable signal quality notifications when the system wakes up again.
 chat( AT%CSQ=1, this, SLOT(mcsqOn()) );
+
+// Reset the echo cancellation and noise reduction.
+NeoCallProvider::echoCancel();
 }
 
 void NeoModemService::mcsqOff()
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Re: [shr] SHR image released

2008-11-12 Thread Chris Samuel

- David Garabana Barro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 And is the very first time I can receive calls with suspended phone.
 Neither FDOM or Qtopia/Qtextended allowed it to me (#1024, I suppose)

I'm sure I've received calls and SMS's with my phone suspended
with both Qtopia (4.3.3 snapshot) and QT Extended (4.4.2).

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Re: [Qt Extended] Mapping Demo (was Re: [FSO] Stability and other problems)

2008-11-12 Thread Chris Samuel

- Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Though I fear Google Maps terms of use do not allow to cache their
 maps.

Hmm, I'd not heard about that, the legal information on
the Google site is the usual unclear legalese that, if
taken literally, could mean that any browser that caches
the images could infringe them (depending on which countries
data you are looking at).

http://www.google.com/help/legalnotices_maps.html

They've tried to summarise it here, but it's still not that
clear to me:

http://www.google.com/help/terms_maps.html

So probably the safest thing to do then is not use them.. :-(

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Re: [Qt Extended] [RFC] Patch for comments *only* to enable echo suppression in 4.4.2

2008-11-12 Thread Chris Samuel

- Damien Thébault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Daniel,

 On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 08:35, Chris Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  So take a look at what I've done and comment on it please.
 
 First, I think that the patch for the header file is missing.

Er, that might be because I didn't modify the header file, oops!

Bad Chris, no biscuit.   I'll sort that out next.

 And I don't know how this is done elsewhere in the QtE source
 code, but using the class name to call (even static) methods is not
 mandatory when it's in the same class (i.e. it's possible to use
 echoCancel() instead of NeoCallProvider::echoCancel()).

Not knowing C++ I thought I'd play safe and fully qualify it
everywhere to avoid confusion.  The fact that g++ 4.3.2 didn't
whinge about anything gave me some confidence I'd not done
anything mindbendingly stupid there.. ;-)

 Sorry, but I can't comment on other points ;)

No worries, thanks for taking the time to look and comment!

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Re: [Qt Extended] [RFC] Patch for comments *only* to enable echo suppression in 4.4.2

2008-11-12 Thread Chris Samuel

- Chris Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 - Damien Thébault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi Daniel,

Sorry *Damien*!

I blame it on the jet lag, this is my third timezone in 4 days..

Chris (now in Austin, Texas)
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Re: RESEND(Wrong Thread): IMAGE/MP3 licensing issue.

2008-11-13 Thread Chris Samuel

- Steven Kurylo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The top google hit ( its over a year old) isn't always the best:
 http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-10051243-75.html
 
 MS won the appeal on that case.

That's pretty good news!

I'd still rather a format that didn't risk (as much as anyone
can know these days) such lawsuits in the first place..

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Re: RESEND(Wrong Thread): IMAGE/MP3 licensing issue.

2008-11-13 Thread Chris Samuel

- Tim Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 _Of course_ we should prefer the Ogg formats - especially with
 companies like Sisvel running around - but to believe they are
 unassailable by patent trolls, or somehow more safe than other
 software is delusional.

That's why I said as much as anyone can know these days.

I have no illusions about submarine patents, etc..

Agree wholeheartedly on the response!

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Re: RESEND(Wrong Thread): IMAGE/MP3 licensing issue.

2008-11-14 Thread Chris Samuel

- Tim Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In fact...  if OpenMoko could make as much information available as
 possible about how much this has cost them - in lost productivity,
 lawyers fees, etc. - I'm sure it would help to galvanize more action
 among the community.

FWIW as this was publicly announced and archived I submitted
it as a Groklaw NewsPick (who knows, maybe PJ will pick it up
as a main article) and blogged about it.

I'll also pass it onto an open source friendly journalist
friend of mine.

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Re: Buzzing

2008-11-14 Thread Chris Samuel

- Torsten Sievers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What really is a joke and absolutly unacceptable for me is the Buzzing

I'm puzzled about this buzzing, is this something that the
other party only hears or are you hearing this yourself ?

I've never experienced a buzzing on my end of my phone
(GTA02, rev 5 I think, purchased July/August in the UK).

I've been running Qt Extended 4.3.3-snapshot and 4.4.2
if that helps.

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Re: Buzzing

2008-11-15 Thread Chris Samuel

- Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Chris Samuel wrote:
 
 Hi Chris,

Hiya,

  I'm puzzled about this buzzing, is this something that the
  other party only hears or are you hearing this yourself ?
 
 For the other party, and tweaking the gsmhandset.state is not
 helping (for me at least).

Ahh, well in that case it's not something that anyone has
remarked to me about (unlike echo in the past), but that
doesn't mean it's not happening (absence of evidence is
not necessarily evidence of absence).

Thanks for that, I don't tend to get a lot of calls
and the few I'm getting at present are international
so I'll wait until I'm back in Australia until I ask
people about quality..

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[Qt Extended] Disabling predictive text ?

2008-11-16 Thread Chris Samuel
Hi folks,

Does anyone know if it's possible to disable the predictive
text in the alpha-only keyboard in Qt Extended 4.4.2 ?

I find the handwriting method too hard to get right and
the full size QWERTY keyboard is too small for fingers.

The purely alpha keyboard looks about the right size for
doing an SMS, but it seems to only do predictive text with
no way to just be able to type what you want..

Anyone got any clues ?

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Re: Bounties?

2008-12-03 Thread Chris Samuel
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 8:02:04 pm Erland Lewin wrote:

 One thing I'd be prepared to pay for is some sort of handwriting
 recognition or grafitti-style input.

That's already in QT Extended 4.4.2.

I can't use it, but it's all a matter of taste!

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Re: Bounties?

2008-12-03 Thread Chris Samuel
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 9:05:42 pm arne anka wrote:

 not everybody uses qtopia.

I didn't mean to imply that they did, just that it exists.

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Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-08 Thread Chris Samuel
On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 7:01:48 pm Christoph Siegenthaler wrote:

 The echo isn't so bad either, but still there.

Yeah, it only tries to set the echo suppression for outgoing calls.  I tried 
to patch it to set it for incoming calls as well but without any success.

I also find that mine goes into speakerphone occasionally for incoming calls
which is, umm, inconvenient, shall we say.. :-)

 Addressbook and Calender work too.

Yup!

 Some other first impressions:
 - Timezone isn't set after one changes it in the initial setup

The Qtopia folks image is a bit broken sadly, I'm using the one that Morten 
put together here:

 http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1437402i40

I do wish they'd post a fixed one!

 - Alarm doesn't ring when phone is suspended

Yeah, I can confirm that.

 - Does someone know a way to turn of word prediction in the
 handwriting input style?

This should do it (not tried it myself yet):

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qtopia_/_Qt_Extended_on_FreeRunner#Internationalization

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Re: Newbie: Converting a brick to a phone

2008-12-08 Thread Chris Samuel
On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 4:38:45 am Damien Thébault wrote:

  * The GPS doesn't work

Odd, it does on mine (QT 4.4.2), just need to give it enough time to get a 
lock though.

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Re: [QtExtended] Duplicate SMS's (was Re: Newbie: Converting a brick to a phone)

2008-12-09 Thread Chris Samuel
On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 7:26:22 pm Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:

 whatever the reason, it has been known since a couple of hours after the
 release, but more than a month later: no fix yet. It makes sms's rather
 useless: after 1 day of usage, I had 30 double sms's ...

I only get the issue if I have undeleted SMS's left on the phone.

Given I'm not a big phone user that's not hard to handle but I can imagine if 
you're doing lots of texting then you'd be in strife. :-(

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Re: [debian] choice of root filesystem type?

2008-12-09 Thread Chris Samuel
On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 11:24:30 pm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Are there other fs types that are more suitable, and work with debian?

For the future I'd keep an eye on btrfs, it has an ssd mount option amongst 
other things (including checksumming your data on disk, snapshots, etc).

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Re: No more optimization team

2008-12-15 Thread Chris Samuel
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 9:28:43 pm David Garabana Barro wrote:

 1) If I want to receive calls with phone suspended, I have only one option:
 SHR As SHR is based in FSO, I suppose you're right, FSO should also work.
 But only SHR works out of the box. I have tried FSO M4, but I haven't
 tried to force calypso to never deep sleep.

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[SHR] Question about contact list

2008-12-16 Thread Chris Samuel
Hi folks,

I was pondering trying SHR but looking around on the Wiki and the SHR Trac I 
couldn't see any information as to whether it supports importing vcard files 
into its contact database.Can anyone clue me in please ?

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Re: [SHR] Question about contact list

2008-12-16 Thread Chris Samuel
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:36:19 pm Julien Cassignol wrote:

 There's no contact database, as we use frameworkd. So right now the
 contact database is your SIM. We're waiting for opimd integration to
 work further on this topic.

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Re: No more optimization team

2008-12-17 Thread Chris Samuel
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:46:01 pm Olivier Migeot wrote:

 Due to some rather irritating bugs in QTE (high-pitched loud noises
 from the loudspeaker when answering a call - quite disturbing for
 co-workers - and duplicating text messages)

My guess with that is that's the phone going into speakerphone mode by itself 
and then causing feedback.

I (hopefully!) solved that issue by moving the alsa config file for the speaker 
phone out of the way and symlinking the gsmhandset file to the original 
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Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread Chris Samuel
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:24:52 pm Michael Zanetti wrote:

 - Please don't add a camera

Or make it optional, I have friends who are are now working in a building 
where cameras are forbidden (a car company) and so will have to discard their 
iPhones and Apple laptops for precisely this reason..

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Re: [FSO/SHR/debian] SMS location app

2008-12-25 Thread Chris Samuel
On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 4:33:13 pm Angus Ainslie wrote:

 It watches for specially formatted SMSs and when it sees the right one it
 SMSs back its location.

Cool, I was talking this idea over with friends a few weeks ago so it's great 
to see someone having the same idea who can actually programme. ;-)

Can I suggest that authenticating messages with OpenPGP signed (optionally 
encrypted too) messages might be a good idea ?

That way you know that not just anyone can find out where you are when they 
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Re: merry christmas

2008-12-25 Thread Chris Samuel
On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 11:12:52 am Michele Renda wrote:

 Merry Cristmas - Buon Natale - Craciun Fericit

Nadolig llawen!

Merry Newtonmas [1] too.. 

cheers,
Chris

[1] - http://www.paeps.cx/weblog/activism/newtonmas.html

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Re: [FSO/SHR/debian] SMS location app

2008-12-26 Thread Chris Samuel
On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 11:56:49 pm William Kenworthy wrote:

 encryption has overhead - more than a 160 characters allows without
 tricks.

A very good point against public key crypto in this situation. :-(

 and why bother? - if the trigger is a random code known only to you,
 whats the problem?

It's just that the trigger of sentry:location in this application doesn't 
seem that random; it should perhaps be a configuration option that has to be 
customised before the application will run (i.e. the default setting should 
cause the program to abort rather than betray your location).

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Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

2009-01-01 Thread Chris Samuel
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 12:36:34 am George Brooke wrote:

 Knowing the UK, any coherency is probably just pot-luck :-)

Or the result of the complete stuff up of PhoneDay in 1995 (predicted in 
1993[1]) which resulted in another numbering change being needed 16 months 
later[2] which was moderately sensible.   Sigh..

cheers,
Chris (maintainer of the uk.telecom FAQ around then)

[1] - http://tinyurl.com/7uyqc4  (goes to a uk.telecom posting on Google 
groups from 1993)

[2] - http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_/ai_n14061243

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Re: Cellphone sizes

2009-01-02 Thread Chris Samuel
On Thu, 1 Jan 2009 10:57:00 pm Ben Wilson wrote:

 However I guess a phone that size might not appeal to everybody?

Correct, the Neo is probably about as large as I'd want to go volume wise (I'd 
trade off depth for width happily).

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Re: Using mplayer with seme desktop symbols for streaming stations and wlan :-)

2009-01-03 Thread Chris Samuel
On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 10:41:27 am Robin Paulson wrote:

 one of the SIG signals might be better - have a look at SIGTERM and
 SIGHUP and some of their brethren; i can't remember which is best
 here.

Use the source, Luke.. ;-)

ch...@quad:/tmp/mplayer/mplayer-1.0~rc2$ grep exit_sighandler mplayer.c
static void exit_sighandler(int x){
  signal(SIGTERM,exit_sighandler); // kill
  signal(SIGHUP,exit_sighandler);  // kill -HUP  /  xterm closed
  signal(SIGINT,exit_sighandler);  // Interrupt from keyboard
  signal(SIGQUIT,exit_sighandler); // Quit from keyboard
  signal(SIGPIPE,exit_sighandler); // Some window managers cause this
  signal(SIGBUS,exit_sighandler);  // bus error
  signal(SIGSEGV,exit_sighandler); // segfault
  signal(SIGILL,exit_sighandler);  // illegal instruction
  signal(SIGFPE,exit_sighandler);  // floating point exc.
  signal(SIGABRT,exit_sighandler); // abort()
signal(SIGTRAP,exit_sighandler);


Looking at the handler:

  switch(x){
  case SIGINT:
  case SIGQUIT:
  case SIGTERM:
  case SIGKILL:
  break;  // killed from keyboard (^C) or killed [-9]

So there you go.  Quite how they expect to be able to handle SIGKILL given you 
can't catch it (or ignore it) I don't know.. ;-)

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Re: Using mplayer with seme desktop symbols for streaming stations and wlan :-)

2009-01-03 Thread Chris Samuel
On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 11:17:56 am Daniel Nöthen wrote:

 What you probably mean is the killall -SIGKILL command which kills the
 process without giving it the chance for run any cleanup routines.

It depends on what the programmer has specified signal handlers for, so if 
they'd coded something just to deal with a user getting disconnected (SIGHUP) 
but not for ^C (SIGTERM) then you're better off sending that program SIGHUP 
rather than SIGTERM.

Not to mention submitting a patch make it handle SIGTERM too.. ;-)

Fortunately mplayer does the right thing in this case.

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Re: Dying battery

2009-01-07 Thread Chris Samuel
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 2:26:00 pm The Digital Pioneer wrote:

 GTA02 with SHR and mwester kernel. How often does mwester release a new
 kernel? Maybe it could use updating...

I think that's a userspace work around to issue:

AT%SLEEP=2

to the modem, not a kernel fix.

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Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-07 Thread Chris Samuel
On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 2:35:13 am leonardo wrote:

 If you look at the patent itself (wikipedia says:
 http://www.google.com/patents?id=PmgCEBAJ) you see it's 27 pages of
 pointless diagrams and 7 pages of a very vague description of how a
 reduced keyboard disambiguating computer.

Of course if you do look at a patent and are later found to infringe it you 
may be liable to pay triple damages for willful infringement if you ended up 
in a US court over it (and yes, I do realise you're in Italy :-) ).  :-(

http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article.php/3500546

# Under current patent law and its interpretation by the courts, punitive
# triple damages are imposed if the party infringed willfully. Simon said mere
# knowledge that the infringed patent exists can support a finding of
# willfulness, and liability for triple damages.

Moral of the story - never ever read patents, or anything about them! [1]

IANAL, batteries not included, etc..

cheers,
Chris

[1] - which is ironic given that they were invented to encourage people to 
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[Qt Extended 4.4.2] [PATCH] Added echo suppression fixes for the OpenMoko Neo phone.

2009-01-07 Thread Chris Samuel
Hi all,

My previous patch for echo suppression was completely bogus, once I'd figured 
out I could get the logging program to record all AT commands to the modem it 
was obvious that it wasn't sending the intended command asides from when an 
outgoing call occured (which is what the original QtE did).  Turns out I'd 
misunderstood the QtE build system and it was never looking at the code and 
when I fixed that it was painfully obvious that my lack of C++ knowledge meant 
I'd never get it to work in that state.

So I went back to the drawing board and changed it to use the AT%N0187 command 
to enable both noise reduction and echo suppression in one hit as I worry that 
the original method of using a command for each would result in the previous 
command being undone.  I also added them to a couple of other places where 
they looked like they'd be important such as on initialisation and on wake 
from suspend.

I'm using a slightly earlier version of the following patch (only removed two 
comments and inserted some blank lines) on my Neo at the moment and it seems 
to be working fine - on a test call from a train I was told there was no echo 
(with the volume at max and mic gain right up) but that I sounded like I was 
in a bathroom, i.e. there was a bit of reverb. :-)

I'm not convinced that it's completely foolproof as I don't know if it'll 
remain enabled if I get two incoming calls without a suspend in between.

But it's still a lot better than what I've been having to put up with since I 
got this going!

I hope it's of use to others too..

cheers,
Chris

 -8 snip snip 8

The original Qt Extended 4.4.2 initially set both echo
suppression and noise reduction in separate AT commands
which might result in the second command negating the
first one.  It also only set them for outgoing calls.

This new version uses the AT command to set both
echo suppression and noise reduction at the same
time as well as setting them on initialisation and
after a wake up.

Signed-off-by: Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org
---
 .../src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp|   17 ++---
 1 files changed, 14 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

diff --git a/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp 
b/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp
index 014d98a..63b27f8 100644
--- a/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp
+++ b/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp
@@ -153,8 +153,7 @@ QString NeoCallProvider::dialVoiceCommand(const 
QDialOptions options) const
 // do undocumented echo cancellation and noise reduction
 
 modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( a...@st=\-26\ );
-modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( AT%N028B );
-modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( AT%N0125 );
+modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( AT%N0187 );
 return QModemCallProvider::dialVoiceCommand(options);
 }
 
@@ -551,11 +550,14 @@ NeoModemService::NeoModemService
 
 //  chat(AT%CMGRS=1); //message transmission to get any failed sms 
during suspend
 
-   chat(AT%SLEEP=2); //makes my Moko8 not respond to calls during sosuend
+   chat(AT%SLEEP=2); //makes my Moko8 not respond to calls during suspend
 // Turn cell id information back on.
 chat( AT+CREG=2 );
 chat( AT+CGREG=2 );
 
+// Turn on echo suppression and noise reduction.
+chat( AT%N0187 );
+
 QTimer::singleShot(200, this, SLOT(sendRego()));
 }
 
@@ -572,6 +574,9 @@ void NeoModemService::sendRego()
 if( !cfg.value(PlaneMode,false).toBool()) {
 //   chat(AT%NRG=0,0); //force auto operations
 chat(AT+COPS=0); //force auto operations
+
+// Turn on echo suppression and noise reduction.
+chat( AT%N0187 );
 }
 }
 
@@ -679,6 +684,9 @@ void NeoModemService::reset()
 chat(AT%CWUP=1);
 chat(ATE0);
 
+// Turn on echo suppression and noise reduction.
+chat( AT%N0187 );
+
 // Turn on %CNAP notifications, which supply the caller's
 // name on an call.  Only supported on some networks.
 chat( AT%CNAP=1 );
@@ -738,6 +746,9 @@ void NeoModemService::wake()
 
 // Re-enable signal quality notifications when the system wakes up again.
 chat( AT%CSQ=1, this, SLOT(mcsqOn()) );
+
+// Turn on echo suppression and noise reduction.
+chat( AT%N0187 );
 }
 
 void NeoModemService::mcsqOff()
-- 
1.5.6.3

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Re: [Qt Extended 4.4.2] [PATCH] Added echo suppression fixes for the OpenMoko Neo phone.

2009-01-08 Thread Chris Samuel
On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 4:11:15 pm Chris Samuel wrote:

 So I went back to the drawing board and changed it to use the AT%N0187
 command to enable both noise reduction and echo suppression in one hit

I've posted the patch *and* the compiled version of the resulting
libneovendor.so library on my blog here:

http://www.csamuel.org/2009/01/08/echo-suppression-fix-for-qt-extended-442-on-openmoko-neo

in case any other QtE users want to test it out.

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Re: stupid networking question

2009-01-08 Thread Chris Samuel
On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 10:58:09 pm Thomas Otterbein wrote:

 On my kubuntu (ubuntu with KDE installed by default) using the KDE
 NetworkManager I followed the advices on
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking#Debian.2C_Ubuntu_and_others

Which version of Kubuntu are you running ?

I seem to remember some people commenting that with Intrepid (8.10) that 
stopped working, though I've not attempted to use this on my Intrepid laptop 
yet (I just do the ifconfig by hand).

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Re: stupid networking question

2009-01-08 Thread Chris Samuel
On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 11:13:46 pm Thomas Otterbein wrote:

 yes I had the same issue but the described method solved it, at least for
 me.

Excellent!  When I get a round tuit I'll sort that out on the laptop. :-)

 However I just got tired of continously running a whole bunch of
 commands just to get my phone -trying to avoid the term expensive brick
 here ;-) - connected to the internet and ready to receive updates.

I've got my main desktop set up for that already, but that's running 8.04.

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Re: [2007.2] flashing problem another potential solution

2009-01-09 Thread Chris Samuel
Hi Harry, welcome to the list!

On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:02:43 pm Harry L. Lee wrote:

 since i have adequate uSD, it would seem i could copy the elements to be
 flashed there, and if some localhost version of dfu-util existed, do the
 whole flash inside the ssh session. i undrstand this could get tricky,but
 it still seems do-able

There's actually a Debian based distro (using dpkg  apt rather than opkg) 
called Hackable-1 that is under development at the moment that installs to,
and boots off, the SD card (needs 2GB or better).

http://www.hackable1.org/

This might be more what you are familiar with.   The developers are working on 
making it dist-upgrade'able at the moment, but for now just repartition your 
SD card, install the tar balls from the site, join the user list and wait for 
the announcement that dist-upgrade'ing is working.. ;-)

Pros: 

- Debian! apt-get! shiny! ;-)
- Excellent audio quality (for outgoing calls at least)
- Abiword
- TangoGPS
- etc

Cons:

- No method for suspending yet
- Battery meter and apm non-functional with default kernel
- Drinks battery (no suspend!)
- Can't import contacts into the PIM application (Evolution data server)

Personally I'm dual booting my Freerunner now with Qt Extended 4.4.2 in flash 
as the work-a-day phone and Hackable-1 off the SD card as an experiment.

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Re: LWN.net reviews android dev phone

2009-01-09 Thread Chris Samuel
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 12:22:15 am arne anka wrote:

  That, of course, ties in to why Google has gotten into this exercise in
  the first place. There are many features of the Android platform which  
  are designed to tie the user in more closely to services provided by  
  Google.

 took the guys at lwm.net obviously rather long, to see that ...

To be fair to them they were reviewing the functionality of the G1 development 
phone, that was just a side comment in the review.

For those who are interested an Australian company (Kogan) is going to be 
selling their own design unlocked Android 3G phone at the end of the month for 
AU$399.

http://www.csamuel.org/2009/01/01/australian-android-phone

I've pre-ordered one so I can get to hack more on my Neo without having to 
worry about stuffing up the phone I now rely on (plus I am finding I really do 
need physical keys to be happy with a phone).

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Re: [2007.2] flashing problem another potential solution

2009-01-09 Thread Chris Samuel
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 6:33:02 pm Harry L. Lee wrote:

 tnx!

Not a problem.

 I got an 8gb uSD in anticipation of all this. i also have a 16, but
 i'm loathe to put it in.

I found I needed to change the environment variables in the NAND bootloader 
for my 8GB SD card to set the Glamo clock to a specific speed otherwise it 
wouldn't boot off the card. :-(

It's an ugly hack and if I can ever remember what I did to get it to work I'll 
document it! :-(

 not quite as shiny as ubuntu is ubuntu doing anything formal in this space?

Not that I'm aware off, I suspect this is a bit smaller than where they'd want 
to play.

 certainly,i'd prefer to live on debian in the absence of ubuntu. from what i
 read fso is debian based.

IIRC FSO is a Framework that runs on Linux, and the current FSO images are 
based on OpenEmbedded which uses opkg and not dpkg/APT.

 i'm thrashing on which to install next. on debian i've seen conflicting
 install methods.

The H1 install is literally repartition your SD into an 8MB VFAT and the rest 
as ext2 and then unpack the vfat tarball onto the VFAT and the ext2 onto the 
ext2.  I did that by putting the SD card into my laptop and doing it on there. 
:-)

 evidently there are flashable versions, as well as versions that do what I
 think of as a net install. i'd like to try both  the flash method seems the
 shortest least painful approach.

The flash is pretty small so you wouldn't get much of a system onto it.  There 
is an alpha version of Hackable-1 for flash, but I'd suggest sticking to the SD 
card for that and use the flash for something that works as a phone like Qt 
Extended.

 i'd also like to get my uboot problems resolved. what uboot does one use for
 debian?

You can probably stick to the version you're using already.

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Re: [2007.2] flashing problem another potential solution

2009-01-09 Thread Chris Samuel
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 6:34:22 pm Harry L. Lee wrote:

 cann you set what the default boot device is? if so,how?

Through the uboot menu that you get by pressing AUX *after* you have pressed 
(and are still holding) the power button. 

For yourself that's probably a little awkward. :-(

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Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-13 Thread Chris Samuel
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 5:11:45 am Stefan Monnier wrote:

  [1] - which is ironic given that they were invented to encourage people
  to publish their ideas rather than keep them secret.

 Actually, not so ironic: it basically means that rather than keeping
 them as internal secrets, they get to lock them in
 a government-provided vault.

Where everyone can read them and the protection expires after a time.

Don't get me wrong, I think patents are bad, especially these days where the 
techniques are often obsolete before the patent expires. :-(

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Re: for sale: openmoko phone

2009-01-13 Thread Chris Samuel
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 9:36:39 am jamal wrote:

 So, dumb question: whats the s/ware fix?

The following (undocumented) AT command to the GSM modem:

AT%N0187

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Re: MP3 to OGG converter

2009-01-13 Thread Chris Samuel
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 8:44:07 am François TOURDE wrote:

 There is also oggconvert, from the eponym debian package.

Plus dir2ogg (also in Debian and Ubuntu):

Description: audio file converter into ogg-vorbis format
 dir2ogg converts MP3, M4A, WMA, FLAC, WAV files and Audio CDs to the
 open-source OGG format.
 .
 It is a Python script that simply binds together the various decoders and
 oggenc making it easier for the user to convert his/her music files. It also
 supports ID3 tags.
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Re: Is there an echo-free distro?

2009-01-16 Thread Chris Samuel
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 3:26:23 am ka...@altern.org wrote:

 Since there is a known workaround, why doesn't it get applied?

I suspect the Nokia/Trolltech folks are busy with the Qt LGPL stuff.

Lorn did say he'd try to get a snapshot release out around the solstice but it 
didn't appear, so it'd be nice if those minor changes could get incorporated 
into it when it finally does appear.

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Re: Is there an echo-free distro?

2009-01-16 Thread Chris Samuel
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 3:17:11 am Gabriel wrote:

 Hackable1 is echo free no ?

Yup, that was what inspired me to do the QtE patch as that showed just how 
good the audio quality could be!

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Re: [Om2008.12] Adding swap space can stop app crashes

2009-01-16 Thread Chris Samuel
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:14:53 am Nick Van Fossen wrote:

 So, I'm a bit lazy so instead of going through the trouble of adding a swap
 partition, I just created a swap file.

I would say that you're not necessarily being lazy there, if you configure a 
swap partition then you are limiting where the kernel can write bytes on the 
SD card which will lead to uneven wear on it.

In future with a COW SSD aware wear-leveling filsystem like btrfs a swap file 
may end up being more SD friendly as the filesystem may (hopefully!) balance 
out those writes across the card.

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Re: [Om2008.12] Adding swap space can stop app crashes

2009-01-17 Thread Chris Samuel
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 6:21:10 pm Carsten Haitzler wrote:

 i can keep hunting down more references - but its meant to be part of the
 spec. cards should do it - some may do it better than others (ie name
 brands - cost more, lifetime warranties), and some el-cheapo ones may skip
 it to cut costs.

All very useful information, thanks so much!

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Re: which file system for sd card?

2009-01-25 Thread Chris Samuel
On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 3:56:26 am Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano wrote:

 My point is: journal could avoid errors and prevent some corruption, ok
 nothing to say about that.

Journals are really to allow the filesystem to present a consistent view after 
a crash or failure and to try and avoid lengthy fsck's and the guesswork that 
is entailed in them.

So for ext3 the default behaviour is to only flush the journalled metadata of 
files after the file data has hit disk (hence why its' called ordered mode).  
Other filesystems make different guarantees about journals and file data (and 
so will ext3 if you mount with journal=writeback).

Regarding journal corruption - yes it can be an issue which is why ext4 (no 
longer marked experimental in 2.6.28) checksums the journal.

Filesystems like btrfs (merged as very experimental for 2.6.29) take a 
different approach, they are copy-on-write and so write new data blocks out to 
different areas of the filesystem and then update the metadata to replace the 
old with the new so you (should) have atomic updates and hence avoid the need 
for journalling.  Btrfs itself also checksums the data on disk so it will know 
if data is corrupted and (if you have two partitions in a RAID1 arrangement) 
will attempt to recover the data from the other partition (and yes, that does 
work).

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Re: Is there an echo-free distro?

2009-01-25 Thread Chris Samuel
On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 4:04:27 am Alexander Frøyseth wrote:

 I use QtE 4.4.2 and have no echo with this fix:
 http://www.csamuel.org/2009/01/08/echo-suppression-fix-for-qt-extended-442-
on-openmoko-neo

Thanks for confirming it works for you too!

 No problem with the sound either (I use only this fix, not the fix that
 replaces the .state files)

I actually had to edit them, but only because it was too loud for my ears, not 
because of any echo! :-)

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Qt Extended update ?

2009-01-25 Thread Chris Samuel
Hi all,

Does anyone know if there's any updates for Qt Extended in the pipeline ?

Lorn wrote back in early December that he was hoping to get a snapshot release 
out by the 21st December, but there's been nothing since.. :-(

I know that Nokia decided to GPL Qt so I wonder if that has delayed things ?

It would also be very nice if there was a public git repository for the GPL 
version of Qt Extended.. ;-)

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Re: latest qt extended?

2009-03-05 Thread Chris Samuel
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 12:33:22 pm Glen Ogilvie wrote:

 I am looking for one with the echo and WSOD fixes in it.

For the 4.4.2 I have a replacement libneovendor.so library
that has (as the only change) the echo suppression fix.

http://www.csamuel.org/2009/01/08/echo-suppression-fix-for-qt-extended-442-on-openmoko-neo

Both the patch and the compiled library are there.

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Re: Om2009 release plan

2009-03-05 Thread Chris Samuel
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 3:14:56 am Angus Ainslie wrote:

 simple phone book (no images)

Any chance that would use or import existing vcard files ?

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[QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released

2009-03-05 Thread Chris Samuel
Just noticed that the files for the release of 4.4.3 (source only so far) have 
just appeared on the Qt Extended site whilst I was looking around.  More info 
in the posting by Lorn here:

http://qtextended.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=54

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Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released

2009-03-05 Thread Chris Samuel
On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 1:46:03 am HouYu Li wrote:

 Just had a test. Echo is there, and incoming call is received twice

That's a shame!  There is an unofficial git repository here:

git://git.asheesh.org/qtopia_snapshot.git

but it's still just 4.4.2 at the moment (hasn't changed for 4 months). :-(

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Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released

2009-03-06 Thread Chris Samuel
On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 9:13:48 pm Radek Polak wrote:

 Now that we have last release from Nokia would it be possible
 to setup public repository with patches from comunity?

I'm in the process of setting up a repository on github for just that reason!

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Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released

2009-03-06 Thread Chris Samuel
On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:24:54 pm Radek Polak wrote:

 Great, let us know when you are done!

I'm doing a git push now, and it's going to take a long time to finish over 
this ADSL link (it did 3% in about 10 minutes).

When it completes it's going to be here:

 http://github.com/chrissamuel/qtextended/tree/master

Note that what I'm pushing is *not* 4.4.3, it's the original 4.4.2 with an 
extra commit which is the echo fix I previously posted.

It's now gone 11pm here and as I'm involved in a bushfire benefit festival [1] 
tomorrow out at Hurstbridge for people in the Kinglake area of Victoria I 
won't get a chance to do anything more until Sunday as it doesn't finish until 
midnight Saturday!

Then I'll hopefully get a chance to add collaborators and maybe figure out how 
to push 4.4.3 into it too unless someone else wants to do that ? (I'm pretty 
new to git).

cheers,
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Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released

2009-03-06 Thread Chris Samuel
On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 11:59:58 pm HouYu Li wrote:

 OK, actually. I was talking with lpotter in IRC channel #qtopia at FreeNode
 about the further improvement of QTextended. He will setup a git repository
 based on the 4.4.3 release source by the end of this week. Just waiting for
 a while. We are going to move QTextended to kernel 2.6.28.

Aha!  Sounds good to me. :-)

I'll let the git push complete as it won't do any harm for now, we can always 
kill it later if need be.

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Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released

2009-03-09 Thread Chris Samuel
On Sunday 08 March 2009, Lorn Potter wrote:

 There is a git repo already setup for sometime now, just havent  
 updated it to 4.4.3

Hi Lorn,

Is that your repo, or someone elses ?   It hasn't been touched
for 4 months or so from the look of it.

Is it worth carrying on with the one I set up on github in the meantime or 
should I just bin it ? I don't want to cause confusion!

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Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released

2009-03-09 Thread Chris Samuel
On Monday 09 March 2009, HouYu Li wrote:

 I think Lorn is not ready yet. I managed to setup one myself.

I noticed, doing a git pull at the moment (more to get a handle on how git 
works, only recently started playing with it).. ;-)

 Chris, which repo do you prefer? if you insist on your github repo, then I
 hope you could update it to 4.4.3. for my repo, it's already based on
 4.4.3. and it a good start point to continue working.

I'm more than happy to clone yours and kill mine off. :-)

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Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released

2009-03-09 Thread Chris Samuel
On Monday 09 March 2009, HouYu Li wrote:

 I think Lorn is not ready yet. I managed to setup one myself.

OK - I'll send the echo cancellation patch to the list now as applied to your 
4.4.3 repository (I've created a local branch called chris for now).  The 
4.4.2 patch applied with no changes and no fuzz.

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[PATCH] Added echo suppression fixes for the OpenMoko Neo phone.

2009-03-09 Thread Chris Samuel
The original Qt Extended 4.4.3 initially set both echo
suppression and noise reduction in separate AT commands
which might result in the second command negating the
first one.  It also only set them for outgoing calls.

This new version uses the AT command to set both
echo suppression and noise reduction at the same
time as well as setting them on initialisation and
after a wake up.

This is identical to the patch against QtE 4.4.2 and
applied cleanly with no fuzz with QtE 4.4.3.

Signed-off-by: Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org
---
 .../src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp|   17 ++---
 1 files changed, 14 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

diff --git a/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp 
b/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp
index d27b4eb..35f7a0b 100644
--- a/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp
+++ b/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp
@@ -153,8 +153,7 @@ QString NeoCallProvider::dialVoiceCommand(const 
QDialOptions options) const
 // do undocumented echo cancellation and noise reduction
 
 modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( a...@st=\-26\ );
-modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( AT%N028B );
-modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( AT%N0125 );
+modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( AT%N0187 );
 return QModemCallProvider::dialVoiceCommand(options);
 }
 
@@ -551,11 +550,14 @@ NeoModemService::NeoModemService
 
 //  chat(AT%CMGRS=1); //message transmission to get any failed sms 
during suspend
 
-   chat(AT%SLEEP=2); //makes my Moko8 not respond to calls during sosuend
+   chat(AT%SLEEP=2); //makes my Moko8 not respond to calls during suspend
 // Turn cell id information back on.
 chat( AT+CREG=2 );
 chat( AT+CGREG=2 );
 
+// Turn on echo suppression and noise reduction.
+chat( AT%N0187 );
+
 QTimer::singleShot(200, this, SLOT(sendRego()));
 }
 
@@ -572,6 +574,9 @@ void NeoModemService::sendRego()
 if( !cfg.value(PlaneMode,false).toBool()) {
 //   chat(AT%NRG=0,0); //force auto operations
 chat(AT+COPS=0); //force auto operations
+
+// Turn on echo suppression and noise reduction.
+chat( AT%N0187 );
 }
 }
 
@@ -679,6 +684,9 @@ void NeoModemService::reset()
 chat(AT%CWUP=1);
 chat(ATE0);
 
+// Turn on echo suppression and noise reduction.
+chat( AT%N0187 );
+
 // Turn on %CNAP notifications, which supply the caller's
 // name on an call.  Only supported on some networks.
 chat( AT%CNAP=1 );
@@ -738,6 +746,9 @@ void NeoModemService::wake()
 
 // Re-enable signal quality notifications when the system wakes up again.
 chat( AT%CSQ=1, this, SLOT(mcsqOn()) );
+
+// Turn on echo suppression and noise reduction.
+chat( AT%N0187 );
 }
 
 void NeoModemService::mcsqOff()
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Re: [PATCH] Added echo suppression fixes for the OpenMoko Neo phone.

2009-03-10 Thread Chris Samuel
On Tuesday 10 March 2009, HouYu Li wrote:

 The binary with your echo suppression patch is now available at
 http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtextended/snapbuild/. build
 20090310.

Wow, that's fast work!  Thanks!

Have you tried the 4.4.3 version out yet ?

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Re: [QTE 4.4.3] Determining which version of GSM firmware I have.

2009-03-10 Thread Chris Samuel
On Tuesday 10 March 2009, Friedrich Clausen wrote:

 Thanks Florian and Filip for your replies, I will check this shortly.

According to the Changelog below the GTA02A5 and GTA02A6 ship with the moko8 
firmware, so unless you've flashed it you're going to have that (or earlier if 
it's an earlier HW rev).

http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/calypso_moko_FW/all_version__CHANGELOG.txt

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Re: [PATCH] Added echo suppression fixes for the OpenMoko Neo phone.

2009-03-11 Thread Chris Samuel
On Wednesday 11 March 2009, HouYu Li wrote:

 Just had a test, when someone call my freerunner, he or she still can hear
 the echo. but when calling someone from my freerunner, no echo.

That's weird, as on QtE 4.4.2 I've had no reports of that when people are 
calling me.

I couldn't figure out where to insert that AT command when a call was 
received, so the best I could do was put it in when unsuspending as 99% of the 
time my FR is suspended when someone calls.

I'm not working today so I might get a chance this afternoon to take a look at 
the code in 4.4.3 and see if I can figure out if there is anything called when 
a call comes in (there must be, but I can't see it for looking).

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Re: [PATCH] Added echo suppression fixes for the OpenMoko Neo phone.

2009-03-11 Thread Chris Samuel
On Thursday 12 March 2009, Al Johnson wrote:

 I can see the patch setting %N0187 when making a call, waking, initialising
 etc. but not when answering a call.

Yup, I agree, I just can't find anything in the OpenMoko library that gets 
called at that point where I can insert it!

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Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released

2009-03-11 Thread Chris Samuel
On Thursday 12 March 2009, Radek Polak wrote:

 The outgoing is ok - it's function dialVoiceCommand(). The incoming -
 i am not sure yet which function is the right place.

Yeah, that's just the problem I was having with the 4.4.2 version!

I guess now that we've got control of the code there might be the opportunity 
to put in a callback in the main body of the code to the OpenMoko specific 
library rather than relying on the existing callbacks.

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Re: Anyone have ogg support in qt extended 4.4.3 ?

2009-03-11 Thread Chris Samuel
On Thursday 12 March 2009, Lorn Potter wrote:

 I think you might have to edit $QPEDIR/etc/mime.types and/or the
 MediaPlayer desktop file to add ogg to the files the mediaplayer can
 recognize. Then run make install again.

Aha, the desktop file for mediaplayer lists audio/ogg+vorbis for .ogg files 
but not audio/ogg which is defined for .oga files in the mime.types.

I'll send a patch for that to the list in a second.

Radagast, what are the characteristics (file name, mime-type) of the file that 
you are trying to play ?

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Re: Anyone have ogg support in qt extended 4.4.3 ?

2009-03-11 Thread Chris Samuel
On Thursday 12 March 2009, Lorn Potter wrote:

 I think you might have to edit $QPEDIR/etc/mime.types and/or the
 MediaPlayer desktop file to add ogg to the files the mediaplayer can
 recognize. Then run make install again.

I also notice that the tremor Ogg plugin has this:

OggPlugin::OggPlugin():
d(new OggPluginPrivate)
{
d-mimeTypes  audio/ogg+vorbis;
d-fileExtensions  ogg;
}

Not being a C++ geek I am not sure how that would need to change to make it 
register itself for audio/ogg and .oga files - any clues ?

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[PATCH] Add audio/ogg support to MediaPlayer

2009-03-11 Thread Chris Samuel
The desktop file for MediaPlayer lists audio/ogg+vorbis for .ogg files
but not audio/ogg which is defined for .oga files in mime.types.

Signed-off-by: Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org
---
 src/applications/mediaplayer/mediaplayer.desktop |2 +-
 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)

diff --git a/src/applications/mediaplayer/mediaplayer.desktop 
b/src/applications/mediaplayer/mediaplayer.desktop
index 76a358c..c145213 100644
--- a/src/applications/mediaplayer/mediaplayer.desktop
+++ b/src/applications/mediaplayer/mediaplayer.desktop
@@ -4,7 +4,7 @@ Exec=mediaplayer
 Type=Application
 Name[]=Media Player
 Icon=mediaplayer/VideoPlayer
-MimeType=audio/x-wav;audio/mpeg;audio/mpeg3;audio/mp3;audio/x-mp3;audio/mpegurl;audio/x-scpls;audio/amr;audio/mp4;audio/midi;video/3gpp;audio/3gpp;video/mp4;audio/ogg+vorbis;video/x-ms-wmv
+MimeType=audio/x-wav;audio/mpeg;audio/mpeg3;audio/mp3;audio/x-mp3;audio/mpegurl;audio/x-scpls;audio/amr;audio/mp4;audio/midi;video/3gpp;audio/3gpp;video/mp4;audio/ogg+vorbis;audio/ogg;video/x-ms-wmv
 
MimeTypeIcons=mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/VideoPlayer;mediaplayer/VideoPlayer;mediaplayer/VideoPlayer;mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/VideoPlayer
 [Translation]
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Re: [PATCH] Added echo suppression fixes for the OpenMoko Neo phone.

2009-03-11 Thread Chris Samuel
On Thursday 12 March 2009, Chris Samuel wrote:

 I couldn't figure out where to insert that AT command when a call was
 received

I've just sent a patch to the list that inserts those AT commands when we 
process a CNAP message from the network, which is hopefully an incoming call.

Completely untested!

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[PATCH] Add echo/noise reduction to processing of CNAP messages

2009-03-11 Thread Chris Samuel
This patch adds the AT commands to set up noise/echo reduction upon
receiving a CNAP message from the network which is (hopefully) the
notification of an incoming call.

Signed-off-by: Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org
---
 .../src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp|6 ++
 1 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)

diff --git a/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp 
b/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp
index 35f7a0b..093ff18 100644
--- a/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp
+++ b/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp
@@ -144,6 +144,12 @@ void NeoCallProvider::cnapNotification( const QString msg 
)
 QAtUtils::skipField( msg, posn );  // name_length
 QString name = QAtUtils::nextString( msg, posn );
 QModemCall *call = incomingCall();
+
+// do undocumented echo cancellation and noise reduction
+
+modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( a...@st=\-26\ );
+modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( AT%N0187 );
+
 if ( call )
 call-emitNotification( QPhoneCall::CallingName, name );
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Re: [PATCH] Add echo/noise reduction to processing of CNAP messages

2009-03-12 Thread Chris Samuel
On Thursday 12 March 2009, HouYu Li wrote:

 I think it should be some where in the NeoCallProvider::cpiNotification
 function. The comment says Call progress notification for the NEO device.

The patch I sent does the AT commands just before it tells you who is calling 
you, which is why I thought it might be the best place.

It's midnight here now so I'll take another look over the next few days (back 
to work tomorrow!).

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[Qt Extended 4.4.3] Re: Anyone have ogg support in qt extended 4.4.3 ?

2009-03-13 Thread Chris Samuel
On Friday 13 March 2009, andrew howlett wrote:

 Lorn, Chris:

 thank you!

A pleasure!

 I ssh'd to my FreeRunner and added a line to
 /opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/etc/mime.types:

 audio/ogg+vorbis oga ogg s

Yup, that'd work too (and is probably a better solution) - I presume the 's' 
is a typo ?

 Now I can play them using mediaplayer.

Great stuff!

HouYu, can we get this into the Git tree please ?

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Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released

2009-03-13 Thread Chris Samuel
On Friday 13 March 2009, Radek Polak wrote:

 IMO all the needed callbacks are already there.

Great!  You can tell I'm not a programmer can't you.. :-)

 Attached is patch that fixes echo for both incoming and outgoing calls. I
 have also binary [1].

Fab, thanks!

 Next step is to send AT%N0187 on init and after call is made (as
 suggested by Joerg). Answering and making calls could by a bit faster
 but no idea if it will be noticable.

Agreed - I guess you're including resuming on suspend in the init part ?

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Re: [PATCH] Add audio/ogg support to MediaPlayer

2009-03-14 Thread Chris Samuel
On Sunday 15 March 2009, HouYu Li wrote:

 I saw your ticket. I will submit the patch.

Thanks for that!

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Re: [QtExtended] some things

2009-03-15 Thread Chris Samuel
On Sunday 15 March 2009, Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:

 Some initial things I found after a first boot:

Out of interest, which version of QtExtended were you testing ?

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Re: date and GPS related questions

2009-03-15 Thread Chris Samuel
On Sunday 15 March 2009, Daniel Willmann wrote:

 Timezone will be set according to the nationality of the GSM network
 you're associated to. Since this is annoying for a couple of people
 we'll probably make this optional/prompt for new timezone.

Qt Extended has 3 options for this - Always, Ask and Off.

Mind you I've never had Always or Ask work for me (in 4.4.2, not tried 4.4.3 
yet) so I'm not sure if the functionality works in it, or whether it's just 
not finding what it expects to find.

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Re: date and GPS related questions

2009-03-16 Thread Chris Samuel
On Monday 16 March 2009, Daniel Willmann wrote:

 I think (not sure) that Qt Extended uses the time(zone) cellbroadcast
 messages which are broadcasted by some operators.

Yeah, I think you're right, the code says:

The TimeUpdate service monitors time and timezone data from sources
such as the modem and updates the system time and timezone accordingly.

I can't find where it actually polls the modem though.

 In Germany for example nobody sends these so the framework looks up the
 country code of the GSM cell we're logged in and changes the timezone
 according to the zone this country belongs to. This is
 problematic/inaccurate/annoying for countries that span different
 timezones like the USA, Russia, Australia

Yup, and don't assume that all TZ's are 1 hour apart, Adelaide is 30 minutes 
different from here.. ;-)

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Re: qt extended stops receiving sms

2009-03-18 Thread Chris Samuel
On Sunday 15 March 2009, Glen Ogilvie wrote:

 I've been having a problem with QT Extended not receiving txt messages.

Well after having this work for ages I rebooted my phone today after being 
told I'd been SMS'd in the morning and received nothing and found 4 new SMS's 
turn up over the past 10 days!

This is with 4.4.2 - hoping to finally upgrade to 4.4.3 tonight!

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Re: GPS emergency call standards

2009-03-18 Thread Chris Samuel
On Wednesday 18 March 2009, arne anka wrote:

 well, it fits the wet dreams of germany's current top terrorists hunter  
 (register everyone who buys a sim card) -- and there are no numbers  
 mentioned of abuse.

In 2003 our local telco monopoly released numbers show about 70% of emergency 
calls were not real - so about 7 million false calls to 000 (the Australian 
emergency number) in *Melbourne* each year.  That's getting on for 2 per head 
of population.

That includes hoaxes, mistakes, fax machines (yes, really), unlocked
mobiles pocket-dialing 000, school kids, people calling 000 to report a car 
blocking their drive because their local police station went to an answer 
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Re: [PATCH] Added echo suppression fixes for the OpenMoko Neo phone.

2009-03-18 Thread Chris Samuel
On Wednesday 18 March 2009, Radek Polak wrote:

 did you built it yourself or are you using binary from somewhere?

I think he's using the latest (as I write) snapbuild from here:

http://trac.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved/wiki/SnapBuilds

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Re: [QtExtended] some things

2009-03-18 Thread Chris Samuel
On Wednesday 18 March 2009, Dale Maggee wrote:

 Personal insults are completely valid and infact necessary when someone
 provokes me by lying to me and/or being an idiot.

I'm sorry but I disagree entirely, if you have to resort to that then you have 
already lost the argument.

Now will both of you please take this flame war to private email where it 
belongs.

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Re: Anyone have ogg support in qt extended 4.4.3 ?

2009-03-18 Thread Chris Samuel
On Wednesday 18 March 2009, xChris wrote:

 When the ogg file  has the extension .oga, (it has a mediaplayer icon) I
 cannot play it, as the system says 'the media system is not configured to
 handle this request'

That's a generic error message in QtopiaMediaProvider::createSession() which
results from any error in the call to:

QMediaServerSession*mediaSession = 
d-sessionManager-createSession(request);

Unfortunately I'm not a C++ programmer so I'm pretty much lost after
that point!

 If I rename it as .ogg, its not recognized as audio/media file.

That's bizzare - according to qtopia/etc/mime.types we have:

audio/ogg   oga
audio/ogg+vorbisogg

and the Tremor Ogg plugin appears to register itself as knowing about
audio/ogg+vorbis by doing this:

d-mimeTypes  audio/ogg+vorbis;

The desktop file for the media player should now make it believe it can
handle both audio/ogg and audio/ogg+vorbis.

So I would have thought it would recognise audio/ogg and audio/ogg+vorbis
as audio files and, if anything, not be able to handle a .oga file by handle
the .ogg files (as the MIME types match).  Perhaps the second part is why the
error occurs ?

Very very peculiar!  I'm out of ideas for now - anyone else ?

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Re: qt extended stops receiving sms

2009-03-25 Thread Chris Samuel
On Wednesday 25 March 2009, Glen Ogilvie wrote:

   Hi,

 Tried fscking and it didn't seem to fix the problem.

 Any other idea's?

Given I've only had this happen recently once, and it's been
fine ever since, I'm not sure.. :-(

I guess you could try updating your Calypso firmware to moko11 if you've not 
already done so, don't know if that will help with this though..

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing

I did mine with the uSD image, worked nicely (even if the screen
blanker gave me a fright at first!).

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Android call volume still an issue ?

2009-05-23 Thread Chris Samuel
Hi folks,

Sorry for being so quiet recently, I've been absolutely buried at work and 
that's overspilled into my home life. :(

I'm pondering trying out Android on my FR but was worried by some of the 
comments on the Wiki about very low volume during voice calls - is that still 
an issue with the latest builds ?

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Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 11

2009-05-23 Thread Chris Samuel
On Mon, 4 May 2009 09:21:15 pm Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:

   - the building of the contact list is slow (because of too
 many SQL statements)

Could it also be related to the kernel sqlite performance regression that 
existed between 2.6.26-2.6.28 (fixed in 2.6.29) ? 

Details (and patch) here:

http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-ker...@lists.debian.org/msg44030.html

Benchmark results for 2.6.24 to 2.6.29 here (sqlite at the bottom of the 
page):

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=linux_2629_benchmarksnum=4

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Re: Android call volume still an issue ?

2009-05-25 Thread Chris Samuel
Hi Ian,

On Mon, 25 May 2009 12:46:31 am Ian Stephen wrote:

 I am using Koolu's beta 6 release and call volume is no more quiet than it
 was using OM2008.  Perhaps better in fact as with OM2008 I always had to
 turn up the slider as soon as a call was connected while with Android the
 call volume is OK.  I'm not even sure there is a way to adjust it.  Will
 have to look for that.

OK, that sounds promising on that point..

 Battery life seems short.  With OM2008 it had become good enough that I
 didn't think about charging the phone all the time.  Using Android I have
 to remember to plug the phone in during the day again.

With QtEI I am currently recharging every other day (except when it 
occasionally fails to autosuspend, which a reboot fixes) so remembering to 
charge during the day would be a pain (and not always possible). :-(

Talking to a friend of mine at work who has an Android dev phone from the US 
he reckons he's got better battery life out of it since running cupcake, but I 
don't know if the same will apply with it on a FR.

 Speaker phone seems to turn off all volume, though I haven't tried it with
 a headset.

I never use it that way, so not an issue for me. :-)

 There seems to be more buzz than with OM2008 or perhaps it is just more
 apparent because of battery life being shorter.  With any distribution, my
 Freerunner seems to buzz more when battery is low.

Perhaps it's because I'm in Australia but I've never experienced the buzz 
problem (yet), so maybe I'm just lucky..

 I haven't tried wifi or gps and observations are not quantified in any way
 as I am just using the phone rather than really thinking about testing.

Much appreciated though!

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Re: OM2009t4: failure to suspend

2009-05-28 Thread Chris Samuel
On Thu, 28 May 2009 05:42:14 am Tom Yates wrote:

 does anyone else get this?

I recently decided to try OM2009 TR4 (happy so far after finding the Python 
script to create a contacts database from vcard format info) and noticed this 
issue when I tried to call the phone from my landline to check it would wake 
from suspend.  I didn't answer the call so +1 for the unanswered call issue.

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Re: [Android] Koolu Beta7 was: Some problems with Android on GTA02

2009-05-28 Thread Chris Samuel
On Wed, 27 May 2009 07:27:54 am Levy wrote:

 Beta7 is really nice

I found that with both beta7 and beta6 that all calls were automatically 
diverted to voicemail and if I tried to change that in the Android call 
forwarding settings I would get the message that it was sending the new 
settings to the network and then, a while later, I'd get a message saying that 
there had been an unexpected response from the network. :-(

This is with Vodafone Australia, reflashing to another firmware (Neovento 
initially, now on OM2009) had it going straight away without even trying to 
make any changes, so I can only think that it's something odd with how it was 
doing the network registration.

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Re: OM2009t4: failure to suspend

2009-05-28 Thread Chris Samuel
On Thu, 28 May 2009 09:51:56 pm Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:

 Where's that script?

http://www.mail-archive.com/supp...@lists.openmoko.org/msg04770.html

 And how many contacts do you have?

I think it said it wrote about 149 contacts out, but that's because many of 
them have multiple numbers (home, work, mobile, etc).

 Does it handle a large volume well?

It wrote out the file really quickly, I don't think that'd be an issue..

 I have over 200 contacts, and up until Om2008.12 my main grips were that I
 couldn't search contacts and scrolling such a large list was a PITA,

That's definitely a problem in Paroli at present, you need to just scroll down 
the list to find the person you're after. :-(

I sort of like the way that Neovento does it where it displays N contacts on a 
page with arrows to go backwards and forwards in the list, it avoids 
accidentally selecting a contact for instance.

 and also that it would have a seemingly randomlyish sorted order (not
 insertion order, not alphabetical, etc... BUT it had two sets of ordered
 contacts)

As I've rebuild my contact list from scratch this doesn't seem to be too much 
of an issue for me, though I don't know how it orders the ones in its own DB 
versus the ones on the SIM.

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Exporting OM2008 contacts to VCard (was Re: OM2009t4: failure to suspend)

2009-05-29 Thread Chris Samuel
On Fri, 29 May 2009 12:59:43 pm Max wrote:

 How to export contacts from om2008.12 to vcard?

If it works the same way as Qt Extended I just set up
an SMTP server and told it to send all contacts by email.

 Is it possible to handle sms messages in the same way?

I doubt it, IIRC they're stored in the Sqlite DB.

 How does it work with non-latin characters?

Not very well I would suspect, I've one contact with a name which was exported 
with quoted printable encoding, but it just got imported as is to the Paroli 
database. :-(

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Re: [android] new cupcake image (Panicking)

2009-05-30 Thread Chris Samuel
On Thu, 21 May 2009 03:29:44 am Russell Dwiggins wrote:

 Just tested this, but having a problem.  Kernel seems to boot OK, and the
 Android splash comes up, but then seems to loop (animation starts,
 pauses, then starts again).

I've been experiencing just the same issue with this image, and trying the 
14.6 image is even worse, that white screens then reboots cyclically. :-(

This is with and SD card created as per:

 http://www.newlc.com/en/freerunner-mobile-which-support-android-cupcake

*apart* from the fact that parted tells me the 3rd partition is too large to 
be a FAT16 partition, so I've set it to be 256MB in size.

I'm beginning to wonder if it's related to the fact that it's a large SD card, 
so I'm going to try it with a much smaller one.

cheers,
Chris
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Re: [android] new cupcake image (Panicking)

2009-05-30 Thread Chris Samuel
On Sat, 30 May 2009 10:57:19 pm Chris Samuel wrote:

 I'm beginning to wonder if it's related to the fact that it's a large SD
 card, so I'm going to try it with a much smaller one.

Nope, same behaviour with freerunner-cupcake-snapshot-v6.jffs2, following the 
instructions to the letter.. :-(

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