Re: QtExtended 4.4.2 : GPRS
On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 6:15:13 am Nishit Dave wrote: However, what I am trying to work out is why the browser or anything else can't connect to the internet. I tried your advise to use the server assigned dns, but it is not working. Don't know if this is any help, but there is a list of mobile providers and the info they use as part of Gnome here: http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/mobile-broadband-provider- info/trunk/serviceproviders.xml?view=markup I stumbled across it when I upgraded my Kubuntu laptop to the then Intrepid (8.10) development version and one day when I was in the UK the Network Manager packages pulled in the mobile-broadband-provider-info in. http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/intrepid/mobile-broadband-provider-info NetworkManager works out of the box on that laptop with a Three 3G modem. :-) Might be a handy package for OM/QE, etc.. cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QtExtended] Synchronizing contacts from Kontact in KDE4 ?
Hi all, Does anyone know if it is currently possible to set up any form of synchronisation to/from Kontact in KDE4 and QT Extended ? Currently I just grab my contacts in VCF3 format and scp them over, but then I noticed the synchronisation agent, but looking at the docs it appears it only supports MS Outlook on Windoze.. :-( http://doc.trolltech.com/qtextended4.4/qtopiadesktop/over-desktop- synchronization-1.html Anyone know of a way of (ab)using this (or any other system) to sync to and from Kontact ? cheers! Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:10:05 pm Kishore wrote: I use the gsmhandset.state file that was posted here some time ago. With this combination, I have a usable phone and calls are taken with the handset and not speaker (as used to be the case with the 4.4.1 release). I ran into the same issue with the newer image so I'll have to go dig through the archives to find that (only been on this list a short time, though I've had the phone since September), thanks for the pointer! Anyone have a link handy ? cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 6:40:04 am Warren Baird wrote: - speakerphone mode didn't work - I think this is also a regression from 4.4.1. Hmm, that seemed to work happily for me, there was quite a noticeble difference between the two modes. In fact *incoming* calls sound like they're using the external speaker by default (and hence get lots of feedback), in contrast to outgoing ones that sound just great. cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 2:23:03 am Kishore wrote: As is a classic case, I missed the attachment! ;) Thanks for that, I'll play with it today. Does QT 4.4.2 not use the AT command that was recently discovered to activate the echo canceller / noise reduction feature of calypso ? cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 7:19:05 am Chris Samuel wrote: On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 2:23:03 am Kishore wrote: As is a classic case, I missed the attachment! ;) Thanks for that, I'll play with it today. Works rather nicely, thanks! -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 11:40:15 pm Tha_Man wrote: According to Lorn Potter, it does. And as you wrote earlier in this thread, it only appears to send these commands with outgoing calls, since incoming calls still have the echo (and the phone set to handsfree/speaker instead of handset). Yup, just seen that in the QT Extended sources in: devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp Looking at the code in that file I'm wondering if a better place to put the command to set the echo suppression is in NeoSimInfo::requestIdentity() as that seems to be called occasionally to get the SIM info. Alternatively it could go into the NeoCallProvider::cpiNotification() code after it calls hangupRemote() to set it ready for the next call and make sure it gets set in NeoModemService::initialize() ready for the first use. The reason I say that is because the original patch put this into the QTE libraries rather than in the Neo specific code. I'm curious about the alsa-settings that were posted by Kishore, what do they exactly fix? As I understand it would fix incoming calls being set to speaker (instead of handset), right? Apparently so, as well as reducing the maximum volume on the handset. Thing is looking at the diff of the original and fixed versions I can't see how it fixes it to use the handset rather than the speakerphone! --- gsmhandset.state.orig Wed Sep 3 10:14:56 2008 +++ gsmhandset.stateFri Nov 7 06:55:33 2008 @@ -36,8 +36,8 @@ comment.range '0 - 127' iface MIXER name 'Speaker Playback Volume' - value.0 120 - value.1 120 + value.0 100 + value.1 100 } control.5 { comment.access 'read write' @@ -46,7 +46,7 @@ comment.range '0 - 127' iface MIXER name 'Mono Playback Volume' - value 103 + value 85 } control.6 { comment.access 'read write' @@ -456,7 +456,7 @@ comment.range '0 - 3' iface MIXER name 'Mic2 Capture Volume' - value 0 + value 1 } control.49 { comment.access 'read write' cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2
- Pander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: really, mine is out of power in about 8 hours :( but I'm using 4.4.2 with mwester's kernel. I'm using the same but it's working fine for battery life as a phone for me, I can run it for probably about 36 hours without needing to charge it (though having read the comments about Li batteries I might charge it overnight as a matter of principle now). In the power management I've set the brightness to about half, dim after 10 seconds, display off after 20 seconds and suspend after 30 seconds. Not had issues with it coming out of suspend (yet). Not tried to use Wifi with it. cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Qt Extended] [RFC] Patch for comments *only* to enable echo suppression in 4.4.2
Hi folks, On the flight from Melbourne to LA I was playing around getting Qt Extended 4.4.2 to build for the Neo using their toolchain and sources. Luckily the Qantas A380 has Australian power sockets for passengers in economy so battery life was not a worry! The reason for this is that I wanted to try to follow up on my previous comments on turning on echo suppression for incoming calls in addition to outgoing which it already does. To do that I abstracted the existing AT commands into a single function and then called that from (I hope) the phone initialisation, wake from suspend and hanging up or aborting an incoming call. The patch compiled first time but I've discovered that I've left my USB cable behind and so can't test it (luckily I've brought the charger with me!). I've posted this for comments only because: 1) I'm not a programmer 2) I don't know C++ (just B and C) 3) I've no idea if what I've done covers all the necessary points it needs to be set at.. 4) I don't want to risk destroying anyone elses phone! So take a look at what I've done and comment on it please. Just be gentle.. cheers! Chris dammit Jim, I'm a sysadmin not a programmer Samuel -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC --- qt-extended-4.4.2/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp 2008-10-24 16:42:04.0 +1100 +++ build/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp 2008-11-10 17:44:27.0 +1100 @@ -94,6 +94,7 @@ // We never managed to connect. hangupRemote( call ); +NeoCallProvider::echoCancel(); } else if ( status == 2 call call-state() == QPhoneCall::Dialing ) { @@ -107,6 +108,7 @@ // This is an indication that the connection has been lost. hangupRemote( call ); +NeoCallProvider::echoCancel(); } else if ( ( status == 1 || status == 7 ) call call-state() == QPhoneCall::Incoming ) { @@ -148,13 +150,19 @@ call-emitNotification( QPhoneCall::CallingName, name ); } -QString NeoCallProvider::dialVoiceCommand(const QDialOptions options) const +void NeoCallProvider::echoCancel( void ) { // do undocumented echo cancellation and noise reduction modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( [EMAIL PROTECTED]-26\ ); modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( AT%N028B ); modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( AT%N0125 ); +} + + +QString NeoCallProvider::dialVoiceCommand(const QDialOptions options) const +{ +NeoCallProvider::echoCancel(); return QModemCallProvider::dialVoiceCommand(options); } @@ -556,6 +564,9 @@ chat( AT+CREG=2 ); chat( AT+CGREG=2 ); +// Reset the echo cancellation and noise reduction. +NeoCallProvider::echoCancel(); + QTimer::singleShot(200, this, SLOT(sendRego())); } @@ -682,6 +693,9 @@ // Turn on %CNAP notifications, which supply the caller's // name on an call. Only supported on some networks. chat( AT%CNAP=1 ); + +// Reset the echo cancellation and noise reduction. +NeoCallProvider::echoCancel(); } void NeoModemService::sendSuspendDone() @@ -738,6 +752,9 @@ // Re-enable signal quality notifications when the system wakes up again. chat( AT%CSQ=1, this, SLOT(mcsqOn()) ); + +// Reset the echo cancellation and noise reduction. +NeoCallProvider::echoCancel(); } void NeoModemService::mcsqOff() ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] SHR image released
- David Garabana Barro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And is the very first time I can receive calls with suspended phone. Neither FDOM or Qtopia/Qtextended allowed it to me (#1024, I suppose) I'm sure I've received calls and SMS's with my phone suspended with both Qtopia (4.3.3 snapshot) and QT Extended (4.4.2). -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qt Extended] Mapping Demo (was Re: [FSO] Stability and other problems)
- Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Though I fear Google Maps terms of use do not allow to cache their maps. Hmm, I'd not heard about that, the legal information on the Google site is the usual unclear legalese that, if taken literally, could mean that any browser that caches the images could infringe them (depending on which countries data you are looking at). http://www.google.com/help/legalnotices_maps.html They've tried to summarise it here, but it's still not that clear to me: http://www.google.com/help/terms_maps.html So probably the safest thing to do then is not use them.. :-( -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qt Extended] [RFC] Patch for comments *only* to enable echo suppression in 4.4.2
- Damien Thébault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Daniel, On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 08:35, Chris Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So take a look at what I've done and comment on it please. First, I think that the patch for the header file is missing. Er, that might be because I didn't modify the header file, oops! Bad Chris, no biscuit. I'll sort that out next. And I don't know how this is done elsewhere in the QtE source code, but using the class name to call (even static) methods is not mandatory when it's in the same class (i.e. it's possible to use echoCancel() instead of NeoCallProvider::echoCancel()). Not knowing C++ I thought I'd play safe and fully qualify it everywhere to avoid confusion. The fact that g++ 4.3.2 didn't whinge about anything gave me some confidence I'd not done anything mindbendingly stupid there.. ;-) Sorry, but I can't comment on other points ;) No worries, thanks for taking the time to look and comment! cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qt Extended] [RFC] Patch for comments *only* to enable echo suppression in 4.4.2
- Chris Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Damien Thébault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Daniel, Sorry *Damien*! I blame it on the jet lag, this is my third timezone in 4 days.. Chris (now in Austin, Texas) -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: RESEND(Wrong Thread): IMAGE/MP3 licensing issue.
- Steven Kurylo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The top google hit ( its over a year old) isn't always the best: http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-10051243-75.html MS won the appeal on that case. That's pretty good news! I'd still rather a format that didn't risk (as much as anyone can know these days) such lawsuits in the first place.. -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: RESEND(Wrong Thread): IMAGE/MP3 licensing issue.
- Tim Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: _Of course_ we should prefer the Ogg formats - especially with companies like Sisvel running around - but to believe they are unassailable by patent trolls, or somehow more safe than other software is delusional. That's why I said as much as anyone can know these days. I have no illusions about submarine patents, etc.. Agree wholeheartedly on the response! -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: RESEND(Wrong Thread): IMAGE/MP3 licensing issue.
- Tim Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In fact... if OpenMoko could make as much information available as possible about how much this has cost them - in lost productivity, lawyers fees, etc. - I'm sure it would help to galvanize more action among the community. FWIW as this was publicly announced and archived I submitted it as a Groklaw NewsPick (who knows, maybe PJ will pick it up as a main article) and blogged about it. I'll also pass it onto an open source friendly journalist friend of mine. Every little helps.. -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzzing
- Torsten Sievers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What really is a joke and absolutly unacceptable for me is the Buzzing I'm puzzled about this buzzing, is this something that the other party only hears or are you hearing this yourself ? I've never experienced a buzzing on my end of my phone (GTA02, rev 5 I think, purchased July/August in the UK). I've been running Qt Extended 4.3.3-snapshot and 4.4.2 if that helps. cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzzing
- Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Samuel wrote: Hi Chris, Hiya, I'm puzzled about this buzzing, is this something that the other party only hears or are you hearing this yourself ? For the other party, and tweaking the gsmhandset.state is not helping (for me at least). Ahh, well in that case it's not something that anyone has remarked to me about (unlike echo in the past), but that doesn't mean it's not happening (absence of evidence is not necessarily evidence of absence). Thanks for that, I don't tend to get a lot of calls and the few I'm getting at present are international so I'll wait until I'm back in Australia until I ask people about quality.. cheers! Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Qt Extended] Disabling predictive text ?
Hi folks, Does anyone know if it's possible to disable the predictive text in the alpha-only keyboard in Qt Extended 4.4.2 ? I find the handwriting method too hard to get right and the full size QWERTY keyboard is too small for fingers. The purely alpha keyboard looks about the right size for doing an SMS, but it seems to only do predictive text with no way to just be able to type what you want.. Anyone got any clues ? cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bounties?
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 8:02:04 pm Erland Lewin wrote: One thing I'd be prepared to pay for is some sort of handwriting recognition or grafitti-style input. That's already in QT Extended 4.4.2. I can't use it, but it's all a matter of taste! -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bounties?
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 9:05:42 pm arne anka wrote: not everybody uses qtopia. I didn't mean to imply that they did, just that it exists. -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)
On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 7:01:48 pm Christoph Siegenthaler wrote: The echo isn't so bad either, but still there. Yeah, it only tries to set the echo suppression for outgoing calls. I tried to patch it to set it for incoming calls as well but without any success. I also find that mine goes into speakerphone occasionally for incoming calls which is, umm, inconvenient, shall we say.. :-) Addressbook and Calender work too. Yup! Some other first impressions: - Timezone isn't set after one changes it in the initial setup The Qtopia folks image is a bit broken sadly, I'm using the one that Morten put together here: http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1437402i40 I do wish they'd post a fixed one! - Alarm doesn't ring when phone is suspended Yeah, I can confirm that. - Does someone know a way to turn of word prediction in the handwriting input style? This should do it (not tried it myself yet): http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qtopia_/_Qt_Extended_on_FreeRunner#Internationalization cheers! Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Newbie: Converting a brick to a phone
On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 4:38:45 am Damien Thébault wrote: * The GPS doesn't work Odd, it does on mine (QT 4.4.2), just need to give it enough time to get a lock though. -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Duplicate SMS's (was Re: Newbie: Converting a brick to a phone)
On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 7:26:22 pm Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: whatever the reason, it has been known since a couple of hours after the release, but more than a month later: no fix yet. It makes sms's rather useless: after 1 day of usage, I had 30 double sms's ... I only get the issue if I have undeleted SMS's left on the phone. Given I'm not a big phone user that's not hard to handle but I can imagine if you're doing lots of texting then you'd be in strife. :-( -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] choice of root filesystem type?
On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 11:24:30 pm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there other fs types that are more suitable, and work with debian? For the future I'd keep an eye on btrfs, it has an ssd mount option amongst other things (including checksumming your data on disk, snapshots, etc). -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: No more optimization team
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 9:28:43 pm David Garabana Barro wrote: 1) If I want to receive calls with phone suspended, I have only one option: SHR As SHR is based in FSO, I suppose you're right, FSO should also work. But only SHR works out of the box. I have tried FSO M4, but I haven't tried to force calypso to never deep sleep. FWIW I can receive calls when suspected with Qt Extended. -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR] Question about contact list
Hi folks, I was pondering trying SHR but looking around on the Wiki and the SHR Trac I couldn't see any information as to whether it supports importing vcard files into its contact database.Can anyone clue me in please ? cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Question about contact list
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:36:19 pm Julien Cassignol wrote: There's no contact database, as we use frameworkd. So right now the contact database is your SIM. We're waiting for opimd integration to work further on this topic. Thanks for that Julien. -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: No more optimization team
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:46:01 pm Olivier Migeot wrote: Due to some rather irritating bugs in QTE (high-pitched loud noises from the loudspeaker when answering a call - quite disturbing for co-workers - and duplicating text messages) My guess with that is that's the phone going into speakerphone mode by itself and then causing feedback. I (hopefully!) solved that issue by moving the alsa config file for the speaker phone out of the way and symlinking the gsmhandset file to the original filename. -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:24:52 pm Michael Zanetti wrote: - Please don't add a camera Or make it optional, I have friends who are are now working in a building where cameras are forbidden (a car company) and so will have to discard their iPhones and Apple laptops for precisely this reason.. cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO/SHR/debian] SMS location app
On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 4:33:13 pm Angus Ainslie wrote: It watches for specially formatted SMSs and when it sees the right one it SMSs back its location. Cool, I was talking this idea over with friends a few weeks ago so it's great to see someone having the same idea who can actually programme. ;-) Can I suggest that authenticating messages with OpenPGP signed (optionally encrypted too) messages might be a good idea ? That way you know that not just anyone can find out where you are when they wish.. -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: merry christmas
On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 11:12:52 am Michele Renda wrote: Merry Cristmas - Buon Natale - Craciun Fericit Nadolig llawen! Merry Newtonmas [1] too.. cheers, Chris [1] - http://www.paeps.cx/weblog/activism/newtonmas.html -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO/SHR/debian] SMS location app
On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 11:56:49 pm William Kenworthy wrote: encryption has overhead - more than a 160 characters allows without tricks. A very good point against public key crypto in this situation. :-( and why bother? - if the trigger is a random code known only to you, whats the problem? It's just that the trigger of sentry:location in this application doesn't seem that random; it should perhaps be a configuration option that has to be customised before the application will run (i.e. the default setting should cause the program to abort rather than betray your location). cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How do you like to read a phone number?
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 12:36:34 am George Brooke wrote: Knowing the UK, any coherency is probably just pot-luck :-) Or the result of the complete stuff up of PhoneDay in 1995 (predicted in 1993[1]) which resulted in another numbering change being needed 16 months later[2] which was moderately sensible. Sigh.. cheers, Chris (maintainer of the uk.telecom FAQ around then) [1] - http://tinyurl.com/7uyqc4 (goes to a uk.telecom posting on Google groups from 1993) [2] - http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_/ai_n14061243 -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Cellphone sizes
On Thu, 1 Jan 2009 10:57:00 pm Ben Wilson wrote: However I guess a phone that size might not appeal to everybody? Correct, the Neo is probably about as large as I'd want to go volume wise (I'd trade off depth for width happily). -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using mplayer with seme desktop symbols for streaming stations and wlan :-)
On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 10:41:27 am Robin Paulson wrote: one of the SIG signals might be better - have a look at SIGTERM and SIGHUP and some of their brethren; i can't remember which is best here. Use the source, Luke.. ;-) ch...@quad:/tmp/mplayer/mplayer-1.0~rc2$ grep exit_sighandler mplayer.c static void exit_sighandler(int x){ signal(SIGTERM,exit_sighandler); // kill signal(SIGHUP,exit_sighandler); // kill -HUP / xterm closed signal(SIGINT,exit_sighandler); // Interrupt from keyboard signal(SIGQUIT,exit_sighandler); // Quit from keyboard signal(SIGPIPE,exit_sighandler); // Some window managers cause this signal(SIGBUS,exit_sighandler); // bus error signal(SIGSEGV,exit_sighandler); // segfault signal(SIGILL,exit_sighandler); // illegal instruction signal(SIGFPE,exit_sighandler); // floating point exc. signal(SIGABRT,exit_sighandler); // abort() signal(SIGTRAP,exit_sighandler); Looking at the handler: switch(x){ case SIGINT: case SIGQUIT: case SIGTERM: case SIGKILL: break; // killed from keyboard (^C) or killed [-9] So there you go. Quite how they expect to be able to handle SIGKILL given you can't catch it (or ignore it) I don't know.. ;-) cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using mplayer with seme desktop symbols for streaming stations and wlan :-)
On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 11:17:56 am Daniel Nöthen wrote: What you probably mean is the killall -SIGKILL command which kills the process without giving it the chance for run any cleanup routines. It depends on what the programmer has specified signal handlers for, so if they'd coded something just to deal with a user getting disconnected (SIGHUP) but not for ^C (SIGTERM) then you're better off sending that program SIGHUP rather than SIGTERM. Not to mention submitting a patch make it handle SIGTERM too.. ;-) Fortunately mplayer does the right thing in this case. -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Dying battery
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 2:26:00 pm The Digital Pioneer wrote: GTA02 with SHR and mwester kernel. How often does mwester release a new kernel? Maybe it could use updating... I think that's a userspace work around to issue: AT%SLEEP=2 to the modem, not a kernel fix. -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup
On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 2:35:13 am leonardo wrote: If you look at the patent itself (wikipedia says: http://www.google.com/patents?id=PmgCEBAJ) you see it's 27 pages of pointless diagrams and 7 pages of a very vague description of how a reduced keyboard disambiguating computer. Of course if you do look at a patent and are later found to infringe it you may be liable to pay triple damages for willful infringement if you ended up in a US court over it (and yes, I do realise you're in Italy :-) ). :-( http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article.php/3500546 # Under current patent law and its interpretation by the courts, punitive # triple damages are imposed if the party infringed willfully. Simon said mere # knowledge that the infringed patent exists can support a finding of # willfulness, and liability for triple damages. Moral of the story - never ever read patents, or anything about them! [1] IANAL, batteries not included, etc.. cheers, Chris [1] - which is ironic given that they were invented to encourage people to publish their ideas rather than keep them secret. -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Qt Extended 4.4.2] [PATCH] Added echo suppression fixes for the OpenMoko Neo phone.
Hi all, My previous patch for echo suppression was completely bogus, once I'd figured out I could get the logging program to record all AT commands to the modem it was obvious that it wasn't sending the intended command asides from when an outgoing call occured (which is what the original QtE did). Turns out I'd misunderstood the QtE build system and it was never looking at the code and when I fixed that it was painfully obvious that my lack of C++ knowledge meant I'd never get it to work in that state. So I went back to the drawing board and changed it to use the AT%N0187 command to enable both noise reduction and echo suppression in one hit as I worry that the original method of using a command for each would result in the previous command being undone. I also added them to a couple of other places where they looked like they'd be important such as on initialisation and on wake from suspend. I'm using a slightly earlier version of the following patch (only removed two comments and inserted some blank lines) on my Neo at the moment and it seems to be working fine - on a test call from a train I was told there was no echo (with the volume at max and mic gain right up) but that I sounded like I was in a bathroom, i.e. there was a bit of reverb. :-) I'm not convinced that it's completely foolproof as I don't know if it'll remain enabled if I get two incoming calls without a suspend in between. But it's still a lot better than what I've been having to put up with since I got this going! I hope it's of use to others too.. cheers, Chris -8 snip snip 8 The original Qt Extended 4.4.2 initially set both echo suppression and noise reduction in separate AT commands which might result in the second command negating the first one. It also only set them for outgoing calls. This new version uses the AT command to set both echo suppression and noise reduction at the same time as well as setting them on initialisation and after a wake up. Signed-off-by: Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org --- .../src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp| 17 ++--- 1 files changed, 14 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) diff --git a/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp b/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp index 014d98a..63b27f8 100644 --- a/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp +++ b/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp @@ -153,8 +153,7 @@ QString NeoCallProvider::dialVoiceCommand(const QDialOptions options) const // do undocumented echo cancellation and noise reduction modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( a...@st=\-26\ ); -modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( AT%N028B ); -modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( AT%N0125 ); +modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( AT%N0187 ); return QModemCallProvider::dialVoiceCommand(options); } @@ -551,11 +550,14 @@ NeoModemService::NeoModemService // chat(AT%CMGRS=1); //message transmission to get any failed sms during suspend - chat(AT%SLEEP=2); //makes my Moko8 not respond to calls during sosuend + chat(AT%SLEEP=2); //makes my Moko8 not respond to calls during suspend // Turn cell id information back on. chat( AT+CREG=2 ); chat( AT+CGREG=2 ); +// Turn on echo suppression and noise reduction. +chat( AT%N0187 ); + QTimer::singleShot(200, this, SLOT(sendRego())); } @@ -572,6 +574,9 @@ void NeoModemService::sendRego() if( !cfg.value(PlaneMode,false).toBool()) { // chat(AT%NRG=0,0); //force auto operations chat(AT+COPS=0); //force auto operations + +// Turn on echo suppression and noise reduction. +chat( AT%N0187 ); } } @@ -679,6 +684,9 @@ void NeoModemService::reset() chat(AT%CWUP=1); chat(ATE0); +// Turn on echo suppression and noise reduction. +chat( AT%N0187 ); + // Turn on %CNAP notifications, which supply the caller's // name on an call. Only supported on some networks. chat( AT%CNAP=1 ); @@ -738,6 +746,9 @@ void NeoModemService::wake() // Re-enable signal quality notifications when the system wakes up again. chat( AT%CSQ=1, this, SLOT(mcsqOn()) ); + +// Turn on echo suppression and noise reduction. +chat( AT%N0187 ); } void NeoModemService::mcsqOff() -- 1.5.6.3 -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qt Extended 4.4.2] [PATCH] Added echo suppression fixes for the OpenMoko Neo phone.
On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 4:11:15 pm Chris Samuel wrote: So I went back to the drawing board and changed it to use the AT%N0187 command to enable both noise reduction and echo suppression in one hit I've posted the patch *and* the compiled version of the resulting libneovendor.so library on my blog here: http://www.csamuel.org/2009/01/08/echo-suppression-fix-for-qt-extended-442-on-openmoko-neo in case any other QtE users want to test it out. cheers! Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: stupid networking question
On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 10:58:09 pm Thomas Otterbein wrote: On my kubuntu (ubuntu with KDE installed by default) using the KDE NetworkManager I followed the advices on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking#Debian.2C_Ubuntu_and_others Which version of Kubuntu are you running ? I seem to remember some people commenting that with Intrepid (8.10) that stopped working, though I've not attempted to use this on my Intrepid laptop yet (I just do the ifconfig by hand). cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: stupid networking question
On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 11:13:46 pm Thomas Otterbein wrote: yes I had the same issue but the described method solved it, at least for me. Excellent! When I get a round tuit I'll sort that out on the laptop. :-) However I just got tired of continously running a whole bunch of commands just to get my phone -trying to avoid the term expensive brick here ;-) - connected to the internet and ready to receive updates. I've got my main desktop set up for that already, but that's running 8.04. All the best, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2007.2] flashing problem another potential solution
Hi Harry, welcome to the list! On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:02:43 pm Harry L. Lee wrote: since i have adequate uSD, it would seem i could copy the elements to be flashed there, and if some localhost version of dfu-util existed, do the whole flash inside the ssh session. i undrstand this could get tricky,but it still seems do-able There's actually a Debian based distro (using dpkg apt rather than opkg) called Hackable-1 that is under development at the moment that installs to, and boots off, the SD card (needs 2GB or better). http://www.hackable1.org/ This might be more what you are familiar with. The developers are working on making it dist-upgrade'able at the moment, but for now just repartition your SD card, install the tar balls from the site, join the user list and wait for the announcement that dist-upgrade'ing is working.. ;-) Pros: - Debian! apt-get! shiny! ;-) - Excellent audio quality (for outgoing calls at least) - Abiword - TangoGPS - etc Cons: - No method for suspending yet - Battery meter and apm non-functional with default kernel - Drinks battery (no suspend!) - Can't import contacts into the PIM application (Evolution data server) Personally I'm dual booting my Freerunner now with Qt Extended 4.4.2 in flash as the work-a-day phone and Hackable-1 off the SD card as an experiment. cheers! Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: LWN.net reviews android dev phone
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 12:22:15 am arne anka wrote: That, of course, ties in to why Google has gotten into this exercise in the first place. There are many features of the Android platform which are designed to tie the user in more closely to services provided by Google. took the guys at lwm.net obviously rather long, to see that ... To be fair to them they were reviewing the functionality of the G1 development phone, that was just a side comment in the review. For those who are interested an Australian company (Kogan) is going to be selling their own design unlocked Android 3G phone at the end of the month for AU$399. http://www.csamuel.org/2009/01/01/australian-android-phone I've pre-ordered one so I can get to hack more on my Neo without having to worry about stuffing up the phone I now rely on (plus I am finding I really do need physical keys to be happy with a phone). cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2007.2] flashing problem another potential solution
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 6:33:02 pm Harry L. Lee wrote: tnx! Not a problem. I got an 8gb uSD in anticipation of all this. i also have a 16, but i'm loathe to put it in. I found I needed to change the environment variables in the NAND bootloader for my 8GB SD card to set the Glamo clock to a specific speed otherwise it wouldn't boot off the card. :-( It's an ugly hack and if I can ever remember what I did to get it to work I'll document it! :-( not quite as shiny as ubuntu is ubuntu doing anything formal in this space? Not that I'm aware off, I suspect this is a bit smaller than where they'd want to play. certainly,i'd prefer to live on debian in the absence of ubuntu. from what i read fso is debian based. IIRC FSO is a Framework that runs on Linux, and the current FSO images are based on OpenEmbedded which uses opkg and not dpkg/APT. i'm thrashing on which to install next. on debian i've seen conflicting install methods. The H1 install is literally repartition your SD into an 8MB VFAT and the rest as ext2 and then unpack the vfat tarball onto the VFAT and the ext2 onto the ext2. I did that by putting the SD card into my laptop and doing it on there. :-) evidently there are flashable versions, as well as versions that do what I think of as a net install. i'd like to try both the flash method seems the shortest least painful approach. The flash is pretty small so you wouldn't get much of a system onto it. There is an alpha version of Hackable-1 for flash, but I'd suggest sticking to the SD card for that and use the flash for something that works as a phone like Qt Extended. i'd also like to get my uboot problems resolved. what uboot does one use for debian? You can probably stick to the version you're using already. cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2007.2] flashing problem another potential solution
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 6:34:22 pm Harry L. Lee wrote: cann you set what the default boot device is? if so,how? Through the uboot menu that you get by pressing AUX *after* you have pressed (and are still holding) the power button. For yourself that's probably a little awkward. :-( cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 5:11:45 am Stefan Monnier wrote: [1] - which is ironic given that they were invented to encourage people to publish their ideas rather than keep them secret. Actually, not so ironic: it basically means that rather than keeping them as internal secrets, they get to lock them in a government-provided vault. Where everyone can read them and the protection expires after a time. Don't get me wrong, I think patents are bad, especially these days where the techniques are often obsolete before the patent expires. :-( -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: for sale: openmoko phone
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 9:36:39 am jamal wrote: So, dumb question: whats the s/ware fix? The following (undocumented) AT command to the GSM modem: AT%N0187 -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MP3 to OGG converter
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 8:44:07 am François TOURDE wrote: There is also oggconvert, from the eponym debian package. Plus dir2ogg (also in Debian and Ubuntu): Description: audio file converter into ogg-vorbis format dir2ogg converts MP3, M4A, WMA, FLAC, WAV files and Audio CDs to the open-source OGG format. . It is a Python script that simply binds together the various decoders and oggenc making it easier for the user to convert his/her music files. It also supports ID3 tags. Homepage: http://jak-linux.org/projects/dir2ogg/ -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there an echo-free distro?
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 3:26:23 am ka...@altern.org wrote: Since there is a known workaround, why doesn't it get applied? I suspect the Nokia/Trolltech folks are busy with the Qt LGPL stuff. Lorn did say he'd try to get a snapshot release out around the solstice but it didn't appear, so it'd be nice if those minor changes could get incorporated into it when it finally does appear. cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there an echo-free distro?
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 3:17:11 am Gabriel wrote: Hackable1 is echo free no ? Yup, that was what inspired me to do the QtE patch as that showed just how good the audio quality could be! -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.12] Adding swap space can stop app crashes
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:14:53 am Nick Van Fossen wrote: So, I'm a bit lazy so instead of going through the trouble of adding a swap partition, I just created a swap file. I would say that you're not necessarily being lazy there, if you configure a swap partition then you are limiting where the kernel can write bytes on the SD card which will lead to uneven wear on it. In future with a COW SSD aware wear-leveling filsystem like btrfs a swap file may end up being more SD friendly as the filesystem may (hopefully!) balance out those writes across the card. cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.12] Adding swap space can stop app crashes
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 6:21:10 pm Carsten Haitzler wrote: i can keep hunting down more references - but its meant to be part of the spec. cards should do it - some may do it better than others (ie name brands - cost more, lifetime warranties), and some el-cheapo ones may skip it to cut costs. All very useful information, thanks so much! -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: which file system for sd card?
On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 3:56:26 am Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano wrote: My point is: journal could avoid errors and prevent some corruption, ok nothing to say about that. Journals are really to allow the filesystem to present a consistent view after a crash or failure and to try and avoid lengthy fsck's and the guesswork that is entailed in them. So for ext3 the default behaviour is to only flush the journalled metadata of files after the file data has hit disk (hence why its' called ordered mode). Other filesystems make different guarantees about journals and file data (and so will ext3 if you mount with journal=writeback). Regarding journal corruption - yes it can be an issue which is why ext4 (no longer marked experimental in 2.6.28) checksums the journal. Filesystems like btrfs (merged as very experimental for 2.6.29) take a different approach, they are copy-on-write and so write new data blocks out to different areas of the filesystem and then update the metadata to replace the old with the new so you (should) have atomic updates and hence avoid the need for journalling. Btrfs itself also checksums the data on disk so it will know if data is corrupted and (if you have two partitions in a RAID1 arrangement) will attempt to recover the data from the other partition (and yes, that does work). cheers! Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there an echo-free distro?
On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 4:04:27 am Alexander Frøyseth wrote: I use QtE 4.4.2 and have no echo with this fix: http://www.csamuel.org/2009/01/08/echo-suppression-fix-for-qt-extended-442- on-openmoko-neo Thanks for confirming it works for you too! No problem with the sound either (I use only this fix, not the fix that replaces the .state files) I actually had to edit them, but only because it was too loud for my ears, not because of any echo! :-) -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Qt Extended update ?
Hi all, Does anyone know if there's any updates for Qt Extended in the pipeline ? Lorn wrote back in early December that he was hoping to get a snapshot release out by the 21st December, but there's been nothing since.. :-( I know that Nokia decided to GPL Qt so I wonder if that has delayed things ? It would also be very nice if there was a public git repository for the GPL version of Qt Extended.. ;-) cheers! Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: latest qt extended?
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 12:33:22 pm Glen Ogilvie wrote: I am looking for one with the echo and WSOD fixes in it. For the 4.4.2 I have a replacement libneovendor.so library that has (as the only change) the echo suppression fix. http://www.csamuel.org/2009/01/08/echo-suppression-fix-for-qt-extended-442-on-openmoko-neo Both the patch and the compiled library are there. cheers! Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 release plan
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 3:14:56 am Angus Ainslie wrote: simple phone book (no images) Any chance that would use or import existing vcard files ? cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released
Just noticed that the files for the release of 4.4.3 (source only so far) have just appeared on the Qt Extended site whilst I was looking around. More info in the posting by Lorn here: http://qtextended.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=54 cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released
On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 1:46:03 am HouYu Li wrote: Just had a test. Echo is there, and incoming call is received twice That's a shame! There is an unofficial git repository here: git://git.asheesh.org/qtopia_snapshot.git but it's still just 4.4.2 at the moment (hasn't changed for 4 months). :-( cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released
On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 9:13:48 pm Radek Polak wrote: Now that we have last release from Nokia would it be possible to setup public repository with patches from comunity? I'm in the process of setting up a repository on github for just that reason! -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released
On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:24:54 pm Radek Polak wrote: Great, let us know when you are done! I'm doing a git push now, and it's going to take a long time to finish over this ADSL link (it did 3% in about 10 minutes). When it completes it's going to be here: http://github.com/chrissamuel/qtextended/tree/master Note that what I'm pushing is *not* 4.4.3, it's the original 4.4.2 with an extra commit which is the echo fix I previously posted. It's now gone 11pm here and as I'm involved in a bushfire benefit festival [1] tomorrow out at Hurstbridge for people in the Kinglake area of Victoria I won't get a chance to do anything more until Sunday as it doesn't finish until midnight Saturday! Then I'll hopefully get a chance to add collaborators and maybe figure out how to push 4.4.3 into it too unless someone else wants to do that ? (I'm pretty new to git). cheers, Chris [1] - http://www.rockandrebuild.org/ -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released
On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 11:59:58 pm HouYu Li wrote: OK, actually. I was talking with lpotter in IRC channel #qtopia at FreeNode about the further improvement of QTextended. He will setup a git repository based on the 4.4.3 release source by the end of this week. Just waiting for a while. We are going to move QTextended to kernel 2.6.28. Aha! Sounds good to me. :-) I'll let the git push complete as it won't do any harm for now, we can always kill it later if need be. -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released
On Sunday 08 March 2009, Lorn Potter wrote: There is a git repo already setup for sometime now, just havent updated it to 4.4.3 Hi Lorn, Is that your repo, or someone elses ? It hasn't been touched for 4 months or so from the look of it. Is it worth carrying on with the one I set up on github in the meantime or should I just bin it ? I don't want to cause confusion! cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released
On Monday 09 March 2009, HouYu Li wrote: I think Lorn is not ready yet. I managed to setup one myself. I noticed, doing a git pull at the moment (more to get a handle on how git works, only recently started playing with it).. ;-) Chris, which repo do you prefer? if you insist on your github repo, then I hope you could update it to 4.4.3. for my repo, it's already based on 4.4.3. and it a good start point to continue working. I'm more than happy to clone yours and kill mine off. :-) cheers! Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released
On Monday 09 March 2009, HouYu Li wrote: I think Lorn is not ready yet. I managed to setup one myself. OK - I'll send the echo cancellation patch to the list now as applied to your 4.4.3 repository (I've created a local branch called chris for now). The 4.4.2 patch applied with no changes and no fuzz. cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[PATCH] Added echo suppression fixes for the OpenMoko Neo phone.
The original Qt Extended 4.4.3 initially set both echo suppression and noise reduction in separate AT commands which might result in the second command negating the first one. It also only set them for outgoing calls. This new version uses the AT command to set both echo suppression and noise reduction at the same time as well as setting them on initialisation and after a wake up. This is identical to the patch against QtE 4.4.2 and applied cleanly with no fuzz with QtE 4.4.3. Signed-off-by: Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org --- .../src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp| 17 ++--- 1 files changed, 14 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) diff --git a/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp b/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp index d27b4eb..35f7a0b 100644 --- a/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp +++ b/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp @@ -153,8 +153,7 @@ QString NeoCallProvider::dialVoiceCommand(const QDialOptions options) const // do undocumented echo cancellation and noise reduction modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( a...@st=\-26\ ); -modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( AT%N028B ); -modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( AT%N0125 ); +modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( AT%N0187 ); return QModemCallProvider::dialVoiceCommand(options); } @@ -551,11 +550,14 @@ NeoModemService::NeoModemService // chat(AT%CMGRS=1); //message transmission to get any failed sms during suspend - chat(AT%SLEEP=2); //makes my Moko8 not respond to calls during sosuend + chat(AT%SLEEP=2); //makes my Moko8 not respond to calls during suspend // Turn cell id information back on. chat( AT+CREG=2 ); chat( AT+CGREG=2 ); +// Turn on echo suppression and noise reduction. +chat( AT%N0187 ); + QTimer::singleShot(200, this, SLOT(sendRego())); } @@ -572,6 +574,9 @@ void NeoModemService::sendRego() if( !cfg.value(PlaneMode,false).toBool()) { // chat(AT%NRG=0,0); //force auto operations chat(AT+COPS=0); //force auto operations + +// Turn on echo suppression and noise reduction. +chat( AT%N0187 ); } } @@ -679,6 +684,9 @@ void NeoModemService::reset() chat(AT%CWUP=1); chat(ATE0); +// Turn on echo suppression and noise reduction. +chat( AT%N0187 ); + // Turn on %CNAP notifications, which supply the caller's // name on an call. Only supported on some networks. chat( AT%CNAP=1 ); @@ -738,6 +746,9 @@ void NeoModemService::wake() // Re-enable signal quality notifications when the system wakes up again. chat( AT%CSQ=1, this, SLOT(mcsqOn()) ); + +// Turn on echo suppression and noise reduction. +chat( AT%N0187 ); } void NeoModemService::mcsqOff() -- 1.5.6.3 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [PATCH] Added echo suppression fixes for the OpenMoko Neo phone.
On Tuesday 10 March 2009, HouYu Li wrote: The binary with your echo suppression patch is now available at http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtextended/snapbuild/. build 20090310. Wow, that's fast work! Thanks! Have you tried the 4.4.3 version out yet ? -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QTE 4.4.3] Determining which version of GSM firmware I have.
On Tuesday 10 March 2009, Friedrich Clausen wrote: Thanks Florian and Filip for your replies, I will check this shortly. According to the Changelog below the GTA02A5 and GTA02A6 ship with the moko8 firmware, so unless you've flashed it you're going to have that (or earlier if it's an earlier HW rev). http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/calypso_moko_FW/all_version__CHANGELOG.txt cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [PATCH] Added echo suppression fixes for the OpenMoko Neo phone.
On Wednesday 11 March 2009, HouYu Li wrote: Just had a test, when someone call my freerunner, he or she still can hear the echo. but when calling someone from my freerunner, no echo. That's weird, as on QtE 4.4.2 I've had no reports of that when people are calling me. I couldn't figure out where to insert that AT command when a call was received, so the best I could do was put it in when unsuspending as 99% of the time my FR is suspended when someone calls. I'm not working today so I might get a chance this afternoon to take a look at the code in 4.4.3 and see if I can figure out if there is anything called when a call comes in (there must be, but I can't see it for looking). cheers! Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [PATCH] Added echo suppression fixes for the OpenMoko Neo phone.
On Thursday 12 March 2009, Al Johnson wrote: I can see the patch setting %N0187 when making a call, waking, initialising etc. but not when answering a call. Yup, I agree, I just can't find anything in the OpenMoko library that gets called at that point where I can insert it! -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released
On Thursday 12 March 2009, Radek Polak wrote: The outgoing is ok - it's function dialVoiceCommand(). The incoming - i am not sure yet which function is the right place. Yeah, that's just the problem I was having with the 4.4.2 version! I guess now that we've got control of the code there might be the opportunity to put in a callback in the main body of the code to the OpenMoko specific library rather than relying on the existing callbacks. That might be the best bet. -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anyone have ogg support in qt extended 4.4.3 ?
On Thursday 12 March 2009, Lorn Potter wrote: I think you might have to edit $QPEDIR/etc/mime.types and/or the MediaPlayer desktop file to add ogg to the files the mediaplayer can recognize. Then run make install again. Aha, the desktop file for mediaplayer lists audio/ogg+vorbis for .ogg files but not audio/ogg which is defined for .oga files in the mime.types. I'll send a patch for that to the list in a second. Radagast, what are the characteristics (file name, mime-type) of the file that you are trying to play ? cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anyone have ogg support in qt extended 4.4.3 ?
On Thursday 12 March 2009, Lorn Potter wrote: I think you might have to edit $QPEDIR/etc/mime.types and/or the MediaPlayer desktop file to add ogg to the files the mediaplayer can recognize. Then run make install again. I also notice that the tremor Ogg plugin has this: OggPlugin::OggPlugin(): d(new OggPluginPrivate) { d-mimeTypes audio/ogg+vorbis; d-fileExtensions ogg; } Not being a C++ geek I am not sure how that would need to change to make it register itself for audio/ogg and .oga files - any clues ? cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[PATCH] Add audio/ogg support to MediaPlayer
The desktop file for MediaPlayer lists audio/ogg+vorbis for .ogg files but not audio/ogg which is defined for .oga files in mime.types. Signed-off-by: Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org --- src/applications/mediaplayer/mediaplayer.desktop |2 +- 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) diff --git a/src/applications/mediaplayer/mediaplayer.desktop b/src/applications/mediaplayer/mediaplayer.desktop index 76a358c..c145213 100644 --- a/src/applications/mediaplayer/mediaplayer.desktop +++ b/src/applications/mediaplayer/mediaplayer.desktop @@ -4,7 +4,7 @@ Exec=mediaplayer Type=Application Name[]=Media Player Icon=mediaplayer/VideoPlayer -MimeType=audio/x-wav;audio/mpeg;audio/mpeg3;audio/mp3;audio/x-mp3;audio/mpegurl;audio/x-scpls;audio/amr;audio/mp4;audio/midi;video/3gpp;audio/3gpp;video/mp4;audio/ogg+vorbis;video/x-ms-wmv +MimeType=audio/x-wav;audio/mpeg;audio/mpeg3;audio/mp3;audio/x-mp3;audio/mpegurl;audio/x-scpls;audio/amr;audio/mp4;audio/midi;video/3gpp;audio/3gpp;video/mp4;audio/ogg+vorbis;audio/ogg;video/x-ms-wmv MimeTypeIcons=mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/VideoPlayer;mediaplayer/VideoPlayer;mediaplayer/VideoPlayer;mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/VideoPlayer [Translation] File=QtopiaApplications -- 1.5.6.3 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [PATCH] Added echo suppression fixes for the OpenMoko Neo phone.
On Thursday 12 March 2009, Chris Samuel wrote: I couldn't figure out where to insert that AT command when a call was received I've just sent a patch to the list that inserts those AT commands when we process a CNAP message from the network, which is hopefully an incoming call. Completely untested! cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[PATCH] Add echo/noise reduction to processing of CNAP messages
This patch adds the AT commands to set up noise/echo reduction upon receiving a CNAP message from the network which is (hopefully) the notification of an incoming call. Signed-off-by: Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org --- .../src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp|6 ++ 1 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) diff --git a/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp b/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp index 35f7a0b..093ff18 100644 --- a/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp +++ b/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp @@ -144,6 +144,12 @@ void NeoCallProvider::cnapNotification( const QString msg ) QAtUtils::skipField( msg, posn ); // name_length QString name = QAtUtils::nextString( msg, posn ); QModemCall *call = incomingCall(); + +// do undocumented echo cancellation and noise reduction + +modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( a...@st=\-26\ ); +modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( AT%N0187 ); + if ( call ) call-emitNotification( QPhoneCall::CallingName, name ); } -- 1.5.6.3 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [PATCH] Add echo/noise reduction to processing of CNAP messages
On Thursday 12 March 2009, HouYu Li wrote: I think it should be some where in the NeoCallProvider::cpiNotification function. The comment says Call progress notification for the NEO device. The patch I sent does the AT commands just before it tells you who is calling you, which is why I thought it might be the best place. It's midnight here now so I'll take another look over the next few days (back to work tomorrow!). cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Qt Extended 4.4.3] Re: Anyone have ogg support in qt extended 4.4.3 ?
On Friday 13 March 2009, andrew howlett wrote: Lorn, Chris: thank you! A pleasure! I ssh'd to my FreeRunner and added a line to /opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/etc/mime.types: audio/ogg+vorbis oga ogg s Yup, that'd work too (and is probably a better solution) - I presume the 's' is a typo ? Now I can play them using mediaplayer. Great stuff! HouYu, can we get this into the Git tree please ? cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released
On Friday 13 March 2009, Radek Polak wrote: IMO all the needed callbacks are already there. Great! You can tell I'm not a programmer can't you.. :-) Attached is patch that fixes echo for both incoming and outgoing calls. I have also binary [1]. Fab, thanks! Next step is to send AT%N0187 on init and after call is made (as suggested by Joerg). Answering and making calls could by a bit faster but no idea if it will be noticable. Agreed - I guess you're including resuming on suspend in the init part ? cheers! Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [PATCH] Add audio/ogg support to MediaPlayer
On Sunday 15 March 2009, HouYu Li wrote: I saw your ticket. I will submit the patch. Thanks for that! -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] some things
On Sunday 15 March 2009, Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: Some initial things I found after a first boot: Out of interest, which version of QtExtended were you testing ? -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: date and GPS related questions
On Sunday 15 March 2009, Daniel Willmann wrote: Timezone will be set according to the nationality of the GSM network you're associated to. Since this is annoying for a couple of people we'll probably make this optional/prompt for new timezone. Qt Extended has 3 options for this - Always, Ask and Off. Mind you I've never had Always or Ask work for me (in 4.4.2, not tried 4.4.3 yet) so I'm not sure if the functionality works in it, or whether it's just not finding what it expects to find. cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: date and GPS related questions
On Monday 16 March 2009, Daniel Willmann wrote: I think (not sure) that Qt Extended uses the time(zone) cellbroadcast messages which are broadcasted by some operators. Yeah, I think you're right, the code says: The TimeUpdate service monitors time and timezone data from sources such as the modem and updates the system time and timezone accordingly. I can't find where it actually polls the modem though. In Germany for example nobody sends these so the framework looks up the country code of the GSM cell we're logged in and changes the timezone according to the zone this country belongs to. This is problematic/inaccurate/annoying for countries that span different timezones like the USA, Russia, Australia Yup, and don't assume that all TZ's are 1 hour apart, Adelaide is 30 minutes different from here.. ;-) cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qt extended stops receiving sms
On Sunday 15 March 2009, Glen Ogilvie wrote: I've been having a problem with QT Extended not receiving txt messages. Well after having this work for ages I rebooted my phone today after being told I'd been SMS'd in the morning and received nothing and found 4 new SMS's turn up over the past 10 days! This is with 4.4.2 - hoping to finally upgrade to 4.4.3 tonight! -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS emergency call standards
On Wednesday 18 March 2009, arne anka wrote: well, it fits the wet dreams of germany's current top terrorists hunter (register everyone who buys a sim card) -- and there are no numbers mentioned of abuse. In 2003 our local telco monopoly released numbers show about 70% of emergency calls were not real - so about 7 million false calls to 000 (the Australian emergency number) in *Melbourne* each year. That's getting on for 2 per head of population. That includes hoaxes, mistakes, fax machines (yes, really), unlocked mobiles pocket-dialing 000, school kids, people calling 000 to report a car blocking their drive because their local police station went to an answer phone, etc.. -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [PATCH] Added echo suppression fixes for the OpenMoko Neo phone.
On Wednesday 18 March 2009, Radek Polak wrote: did you built it yourself or are you using binary from somewhere? I think he's using the latest (as I write) snapbuild from here: http://trac.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved/wiki/SnapBuilds -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] some things
On Wednesday 18 March 2009, Dale Maggee wrote: Personal insults are completely valid and infact necessary when someone provokes me by lying to me and/or being an idiot. I'm sorry but I disagree entirely, if you have to resort to that then you have already lost the argument. Now will both of you please take this flame war to private email where it belongs. -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anyone have ogg support in qt extended 4.4.3 ?
On Wednesday 18 March 2009, xChris wrote: When the ogg file has the extension .oga, (it has a mediaplayer icon) I cannot play it, as the system says 'the media system is not configured to handle this request' That's a generic error message in QtopiaMediaProvider::createSession() which results from any error in the call to: QMediaServerSession*mediaSession = d-sessionManager-createSession(request); Unfortunately I'm not a C++ programmer so I'm pretty much lost after that point! If I rename it as .ogg, its not recognized as audio/media file. That's bizzare - according to qtopia/etc/mime.types we have: audio/ogg oga audio/ogg+vorbisogg and the Tremor Ogg plugin appears to register itself as knowing about audio/ogg+vorbis by doing this: d-mimeTypes audio/ogg+vorbis; The desktop file for the media player should now make it believe it can handle both audio/ogg and audio/ogg+vorbis. So I would have thought it would recognise audio/ogg and audio/ogg+vorbis as audio files and, if anything, not be able to handle a .oga file by handle the .ogg files (as the MIME types match). Perhaps the second part is why the error occurs ? Very very peculiar! I'm out of ideas for now - anyone else ? cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qt extended stops receiving sms
On Wednesday 25 March 2009, Glen Ogilvie wrote: Hi, Tried fscking and it didn't seem to fix the problem. Any other idea's? Given I've only had this happen recently once, and it's been fine ever since, I'm not sure.. :-( I guess you could try updating your Calypso firmware to moko11 if you've not already done so, don't know if that will help with this though.. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing I did mine with the uSD image, worked nicely (even if the screen blanker gave me a fright at first!). cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Android call volume still an issue ?
Hi folks, Sorry for being so quiet recently, I've been absolutely buried at work and that's overspilled into my home life. :( I'm pondering trying out Android on my FR but was worried by some of the comments on the Wiki about very low volume during voice calls - is that still an issue with the latest builds ? cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 11
On Mon, 4 May 2009 09:21:15 pm Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: - the building of the contact list is slow (because of too many SQL statements) Could it also be related to the kernel sqlite performance regression that existed between 2.6.26-2.6.28 (fixed in 2.6.29) ? Details (and patch) here: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-ker...@lists.debian.org/msg44030.html Benchmark results for 2.6.24 to 2.6.29 here (sqlite at the bottom of the page): http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=linux_2629_benchmarksnum=4 cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android call volume still an issue ?
Hi Ian, On Mon, 25 May 2009 12:46:31 am Ian Stephen wrote: I am using Koolu's beta 6 release and call volume is no more quiet than it was using OM2008. Perhaps better in fact as with OM2008 I always had to turn up the slider as soon as a call was connected while with Android the call volume is OK. I'm not even sure there is a way to adjust it. Will have to look for that. OK, that sounds promising on that point.. Battery life seems short. With OM2008 it had become good enough that I didn't think about charging the phone all the time. Using Android I have to remember to plug the phone in during the day again. With QtEI I am currently recharging every other day (except when it occasionally fails to autosuspend, which a reboot fixes) so remembering to charge during the day would be a pain (and not always possible). :-( Talking to a friend of mine at work who has an Android dev phone from the US he reckons he's got better battery life out of it since running cupcake, but I don't know if the same will apply with it on a FR. Speaker phone seems to turn off all volume, though I haven't tried it with a headset. I never use it that way, so not an issue for me. :-) There seems to be more buzz than with OM2008 or perhaps it is just more apparent because of battery life being shorter. With any distribution, my Freerunner seems to buzz more when battery is low. Perhaps it's because I'm in Australia but I've never experienced the buzz problem (yet), so maybe I'm just lucky.. I haven't tried wifi or gps and observations are not quantified in any way as I am just using the phone rather than really thinking about testing. Much appreciated though! All the best, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OM2009t4: failure to suspend
On Thu, 28 May 2009 05:42:14 am Tom Yates wrote: does anyone else get this? I recently decided to try OM2009 TR4 (happy so far after finding the Python script to create a contacts database from vcard format info) and noticed this issue when I tried to call the phone from my landline to check it would wake from suspend. I didn't answer the call so +1 for the unanswered call issue. cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Koolu Beta7 was: Some problems with Android on GTA02
On Wed, 27 May 2009 07:27:54 am Levy wrote: Beta7 is really nice I found that with both beta7 and beta6 that all calls were automatically diverted to voicemail and if I tried to change that in the Android call forwarding settings I would get the message that it was sending the new settings to the network and then, a while later, I'd get a message saying that there had been an unexpected response from the network. :-( This is with Vodafone Australia, reflashing to another firmware (Neovento initially, now on OM2009) had it going straight away without even trying to make any changes, so I can only think that it's something odd with how it was doing the network registration. cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OM2009t4: failure to suspend
On Thu, 28 May 2009 09:51:56 pm Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: Where's that script? http://www.mail-archive.com/supp...@lists.openmoko.org/msg04770.html And how many contacts do you have? I think it said it wrote about 149 contacts out, but that's because many of them have multiple numbers (home, work, mobile, etc). Does it handle a large volume well? It wrote out the file really quickly, I don't think that'd be an issue.. I have over 200 contacts, and up until Om2008.12 my main grips were that I couldn't search contacts and scrolling such a large list was a PITA, That's definitely a problem in Paroli at present, you need to just scroll down the list to find the person you're after. :-( I sort of like the way that Neovento does it where it displays N contacts on a page with arrows to go backwards and forwards in the list, it avoids accidentally selecting a contact for instance. and also that it would have a seemingly randomlyish sorted order (not insertion order, not alphabetical, etc... BUT it had two sets of ordered contacts) As I've rebuild my contact list from scratch this doesn't seem to be too much of an issue for me, though I don't know how it orders the ones in its own DB versus the ones on the SIM. cheers! Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Exporting OM2008 contacts to VCard (was Re: OM2009t4: failure to suspend)
On Fri, 29 May 2009 12:59:43 pm Max wrote: How to export contacts from om2008.12 to vcard? If it works the same way as Qt Extended I just set up an SMTP server and told it to send all contacts by email. Is it possible to handle sms messages in the same way? I doubt it, IIRC they're stored in the Sqlite DB. How does it work with non-latin characters? Not very well I would suspect, I've one contact with a name which was exported with quoted printable encoding, but it just got imported as is to the Paroli database. :-( cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] new cupcake image (Panicking)
On Thu, 21 May 2009 03:29:44 am Russell Dwiggins wrote: Just tested this, but having a problem. Kernel seems to boot OK, and the Android splash comes up, but then seems to loop (animation starts, pauses, then starts again). I've been experiencing just the same issue with this image, and trying the 14.6 image is even worse, that white screens then reboots cyclically. :-( This is with and SD card created as per: http://www.newlc.com/en/freerunner-mobile-which-support-android-cupcake *apart* from the fact that parted tells me the 3rd partition is too large to be a FAT16 partition, so I've set it to be 256MB in size. I'm beginning to wonder if it's related to the fact that it's a large SD card, so I'm going to try it with a much smaller one. cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] new cupcake image (Panicking)
On Sat, 30 May 2009 10:57:19 pm Chris Samuel wrote: I'm beginning to wonder if it's related to the fact that it's a large SD card, so I'm going to try it with a much smaller one. Nope, same behaviour with freerunner-cupcake-snapshot-v6.jffs2, following the instructions to the letter.. :-( -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community