Re: New Life in Openmoko Phones

2009-05-18 Thread Dave Ball
Werner Almesberger wrote: Wolfgang Spraul wrote: Today Openmoko released additional pieces of documentation about Freerunner hardware: board outline, footprints and netlist. This is great. Thanks a lot to you and everyone in Openmoko who has helped to make this happen ! Ack -

Re: New Life in Openmoko Phones

2009-05-18 Thread Dave Ball
David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: 2009/5/18 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org: On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 07:20:13PM +0200, arne anka wrote: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gta02-core sounds interesting. could someone add background information why parts change? removing

Re: New Life in Openmoko Phones

2009-05-18 Thread Dave Ball
Toni Mueller wrote: They chose a 100% GPL layout tool, KiCAD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kicad), which uses only text-based files This sounds good, but you seem to require a certain minimum version of Kicad, right? Checking out from OM and running Lenny's Kicad produced

Re: New Life in Openmoko Phones

2009-05-19 Thread Dave Ball
GNUtoo wrote: *will the sound quality be ok(is there a plan to correct the problematic capacitor that is between the sound card and the audio connector)? and will it fit into the same case than the GTA02...because if I understood well the sound problem can't or is too difficult to fix

Re: New Life in Openmoko Phones

2009-05-20 Thread Dave Ball
Max wrote: Are there plans to change uSD placeholder? No - changing uSD holder isn't part of the GTA02-core plans. In GTA02-core the intention is that the uSD card contains the full OS image including kernel. The NAND will only contain QI, and the expectation is that QI won't need to be

Re: New Life in Openmoko Phones

2009-05-20 Thread Dave Ball
Martin Bernreuther wrote: One thought is that future phones should include two uSD cards - one 'internal' for OS/kernel etc. and one that is 'removable' for data storage/exchange - although this is out of scope for GTA02-core. s/should/could. Obviously there isn't any commitment to future

Re: Freerunner's Future

2009-06-02 Thread Dave Ball
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 12:30:21AM +0400, Alexander Chemeris wrote: On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org wrote: For now, I'm hoping my Freerunner improves enough to last long, as I don't expect another Free Software

Re: Freerunner's Future

2009-06-02 Thread Dave Ball
Risto H. Kurppa wrote: Thanks Sean for this announcement! It's appreciated to get a status update from OM of things we've heard rumors of. I'm very happy that OM got this far with the phones: we have some tens of thousands (better guess anyone?) of Linux phones around the world, various

Re: The University of São Paulo's intent to j oin Openmoko development

2009-07-13 Thread Dave Ball
Hi Maddog, [added cc to gta02-core list] Thanks for looking into this - it certainly sounds like an amazing opportunity, almost too good to be true - what's the catch! :-) Do you know how Dr Zuffo sees the universities involvement with, and relationship to the rest of the community - i.e. do

Re: Freerunner Chat Application: Suggestions wanted!

2009-07-16 Thread Dave Ball
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 01:16:09PM +0100, Michael Sheldon wrote: Alex Teiche wrote: Hello everyone, I recently recieved my A6 FreeRunner, and have been looking for some coding to do:) I plan on writing a chat application(similar to Pidgin) optomized

Re: The University of São Paulo's intent to join Openmoko development

2009-07-16 Thread Dave Ball
Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote: So organize your needs. Reach out to your own universities and software usability development groups. Get them to join the project. Don't give up. If you look closely, you can see the light at the end of the tunnel. It may be faint, but I have seen similar tunnels

Re: The University of São Paulo's intent to join Openmoko development

2009-07-17 Thread Dave Ball
Hi Maddog, it certainly sounds like an amazing opportunity, almost too good to be true - what's the catch! :-) I hope that you will find there is no catch. If you do think there is a catch, please tell me. Thanks again for bringing this to us, and the detailed responses. I

Re: [CU] voting required

2009-07-27 Thread Dave Ball
Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote: I assume you would like to modify V1, but could you explain how more precisely? I like the over-all look of V1, but I also like the working hardware box. By putting the working hardware box in a column by itself, making a three-column layout, you reduce the amount

Re: [CU] voting required

2009-07-27 Thread Dave Ball
Patryk Benderz wrote: [cut] associated with each table. If that doesn't work, in my mind a simple 1px gray light border would work better than the block colours, which can be a little over-powering. 1 px added for you where relevant. Tell me how do you like it now. I Like it

Re: [CU] voting required

2009-07-29 Thread Dave Ball
Andrew Stephen wrote: 2009/7/28 Warren Baird wjba...@alumni.uwaterloo.ca: looks great - I took the liberty of adding the version #'s into the output created by the template, so you can see the version #'s on the draft community page. My preference is '8a' I vote for 8a also.

Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

2009-09-26 Thread Dave Ball
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: What I wonder is why nobody did fix u-boot if it had problems with bigger kernels. I'm just a bystander here, but from what I understood this wasn't the reason Qi was started. u-boot is an entire environment that needs drivers for a lot of the hardware

Re: Ideal screen rotation

2009-11-07 Thread Dave Ball
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:46:28 + Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org said: Being X properties or DBUS, it's the same for me. DBUS seems more natural as there's probably less pooling, but then I know only a bit more of DBUS than of X11 (which

Re: Ideal screen rotation

2009-11-07 Thread Dave Ball
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 02:03:47 + Dave Ball openm...@underhand.org said: Sounds like we should be using window properties for passing hints to the WM, and dbus for getting orientation information from the accelerometers. that is sane

Re: Ideal screen rotation

2009-11-07 Thread Dave Ball
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: wm needs to track both and determine which one takes precedence based on policy and th en implement that rotation, if needed. policy is what a wm implements - that's the nature of the beast. that policy may be hard-coded in the wm or configuration for

Re: Ideal screen rotation

2009-11-08 Thread Dave Ball
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 04:37:07 + Dave Ball openm...@underhand.org said: Is there a quick-start guide for writing an e module, maybe some simple code / example? http://www.rasterman.com/files/logo-0.0.1.tar.gz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v

Re: Ideal screen rotation

2009-11-09 Thread Dave Ball
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: wm needs to track both and determine which one takes precedence based on policy and th en implement that rotation, if needed. policy is what a wm implements - that's the nature of the beast. that policy may be hard-coded in the wm or configuration for

Re: Ideal screen rotation

2009-11-10 Thread Dave Ball
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:00:31AM +, Dave Ball wrote: option1: New atoms in the _NET_WM_STATE property. - _NET_WM_STATE_LANDSCAPE - _NET_WM_STATE_PORTRAIT If neither is present for a given window, WM can choose (based on the accelerometers). Both present

Re: Ideal screen rotation

2009-11-10 Thread Dave Ball
Warren Baird wrote: perhaps the landscape / portrait flag should just contrain the rotation? So if you flip the phone 180 degrees, you get the 'expected' behaviour, but if you just flip it 90 degrees nothing changes? Given that these properties are for the orientation an application

Re: Ideal screen rotation

2009-11-10 Thread Dave Ball
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:08:06PM +, Dave Ball wrote: However, what's the use-case for an application requesting either of the inverted states? I can't see when those would be useful - in terms of hints the app would supply. Obviously, if the WM

Re: Ideal screen rotation

2009-11-10 Thread Dave Ball
Warren Baird wrote: I meant that it should *constrain* the behaviour of rotation - more or less like omnewrotate behaves now, but skipping over the two 'incorrect' orientations. so if the app says 'landscape', it's still flip between xrandr -o 1 and xrandr -o 3 as you rotate the phone,

Re: Whither open hardware ?

2010-01-03 Thread Dave Ball
Laszlo KREKACS wrote: There is also the openpandora project: http://www.open-pandora.org/index.php?option=com_contentview=categorylayout=blogid=2Itemid=2lang=en Is it unsuitable for a phone because of power inefficiency? Can be the ARM Cortex-A8 600Mhz used in a future phone? The pandora

Re: Whither open hardware ?

2010-01-06 Thread Dave Ball
Hi Werner, Werner Almesberger wrote: There are many component choices for future phones. Things to consider when choosing chips include: snip - are they available (to us) ? What's the yard stick for measuring against here? I.e. are we talking about one-off from digikey/farnell, samples

Re: qi-bootmenu-0.1 for GTA02

2010-05-15 Thread Dave Ball
Hi Torfinn with the SD card inserted, I see no bootmenu - it just boots /dev/mmcblk0p2 every time. What's wrong? You forgot to tell Qi not to boot from the SD partitions. See: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi#Files According to the readme[1] on the qi-bootmenu