Re: Freerunner for sale... 100€
Hi Adam, Le 14421ième jour après Epoch, Adam Kowalski écrivait: > since 8 monts i looking for Freerunner. > I think this offer its ok (100Euro). I think so :) > I whish to buy this Phone Sorry, already gone ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Freerunner for sale... 100€
Hi. No time to hack, too much busy about my father's health... I sell in France my Freerunner. European clean version, with capacitor on SD card contacts (A6 I presume) but without buzz fix. Dismounted one time just to clean correctly the screen. Pack contain: - FreeRunner - Wall charger - USB cable - 1Gb Memory card (I can remove it, 10€ discount) - NO HEADSET - Laser pointer, but totally discharged - Original pack OM2009 v5 installed by default on internal memory. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2009] airplane mode
Le 14414ième jour après Epoch, Warren Baird écrivait: > I'm spending about 4 or 5 hours on an airplane tomorrow, and I was wondering > if there was a way to make OM2009 safe for use on an airplane - similar to > the 'airplane mode' that QTEI provides. > > I know that there's no UI for it - but is there something I can kill, or > some dbus magic I can do to address this? Maybe removing the SIM card ? :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: how dangerous Freerunner could be?
Le 14403ième jour après Epoch, Lowell Higley écrivait: > On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 10:49 PM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez < > da...@tuxbrain.com> wrote: > >> ivvmm, frequency(in in the range we are talking about) is not the >> harming factor is power (Watts) and in both frequencies the power will >> be the same so as mentioned avobe the only harm you can recieve from a >> US version is rare case of lack of coverage in some rural zones of >> Europe. >> > > I live in Kosovo... I don't know how you can get more rural than > that. lol. I've started using my FreeRunner here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=42.8721&lon=0.9558&zoom=14&layers=B000FTF Zoom out, and check the "rurality" of the zone ;) >> LOL for the chicken sacrifice, a BBQ always helps! Argh, a chicken... I've read a children... Oops... What a mistake... Whatever, It doesn't work. :P ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2009] Using fso-image instead of fso-paroli
Le 14350ième jour après Epoch, Angus Ainslie écrivait: > I also use the fso-image, to autolaunch just > > opkg install paroli-autostart On my first try, this was unsuccessful, but on second one, it works. >> 2) How to stop/start Paroli? I use the cross-icon (like for other apps), >> but paroli still running, I must kill it from ssh. >> > > Please add a bug Done. >> 3) Must I restart frameworkd (/etc/init.d/framework restart) for new >> ringtone to be taken into account? >> > Just make sure the ringtone isn't mp3, there is no mp3 support in the OM > distro. Doesn't work... I've tried a second test, and I need to restart frameworkd for new config files to be taken into account. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[OM2009] Using fso-image instead of fso-paroli
Hi, First, about future distrib: Whaouh! What a great job Nice work ! And now, a few questions: 1) I use fso-image instead of fso-paroli, because I'll be able to launch other apps. But I don't know how to auto-lauch Paroli. I've tried to do something like for zhone (i.e. a file in /etc/X11/XSession.d/) but it doesn't work. Paroli is running, but without displaying anything. 2) How to stop/start Paroli? I use the cross-icon (like for other apps), but paroli still running, I must kill it from ssh. 3) Must I restart frameworkd (/etc/init.d/framework restart) for new ringtone to be taken into account? -- Ceux qui vous disent que Linux n'est pas convivial vous mentent, je n'ai jamais rencontré autant de gens que depuis que je l'utilise.. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: distance between the two accelermeters
Le 14350ième jour après Epoch, Anas Alzouhbi écrivait: > Hi! > I'm trying to do an application that measure the angular velocity, > using the two accelerometers of openmoko > so anyone know what is the distance between the two accelerometers?? You can check this: http://downloads.openmoko.org/developer/schematics/GTA02/Component-placement_Freerunner-GTA02-MB-A6.pdf ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [om2009]
Le 14349ième jour après Epoch, Ed Kapitein écrivait: > i found out that you can chage from silent to default profile by > pressing the aux button. > Is there an url with a tutorial on how to use the new image? If it's for paroli, check at: http://www.paroli-project.org/running-paroli/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [om2009] - send SMS GUI logic
Le 14349ième jour après Epoch, blok...@h0m3.be écrivait: > first tipe what you want to send , then to who seems more logical . I agree with this, even if I don't understand why. I can't find any good reason to use this order :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accelerometer wiki page erroneous axes ?
Le 14342ième jour après Epoch, ri...@happyleptic.org écrivait: > Well, some confusion here. Yes, probably because of mixing gravity, force, acceleration, inertia, etc... :) > OK, let's imagine a _perfect_ accelerometer. > This device would report only acceleration. So, when the phone lies on the > table, it would report 0 (neglecting the rotation of earth here > :-)). Please, don't stop earth rotation, because my weight will increase too much :( The _perfect_ accelerometer is measuring 2 forces: The gravity, and the table reaction against the phone fall. These 2 forces are in opposite directions, then accel value is 0. If you shift left (or right) your _perfect_ accelerometer, it will (probably) indicate a X acceleration value. But only if it has no mass so no inertia :) The Freerunner accelerometers are able to compare these 2 forces, and so it compares gravity vs reaction, or force vs inertia. > Now, lets suppose that this perfect accelerometer is not calibrated correctly, > and offset every values by 900. It will then report first a value >900, > then 900, then a value <900. Your idea works only for the accelerometer Z, in case of the phone is left horizontaly, screen up. X and Y accelerometers don't have the "calibration error" in this case. And if your phone is falling, the accel values will turn to zero, even in the earth gravity field. If you will try this, please consider using a pillow (for example) to avoid crash ;) > (*): our accelerometer is not perfect, but not because of a random > offset. It is not perfect because it has no mean to distinguish between > an actual acceleration from the effect of gravity. > This is not a > defect and there is no need to send the phone back to OpenMoko :-) I agree ;) > because > it is just how nature work > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Elevator_gravity.svg) > The effect of gravity (downwards) is the same as an acceleration > (upwards!!) Not the same, but we can't make any differences just looking at the trajectory. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Your package is broken in opkg.org
Le 14311ième jour après Epoch, Risto H. Kurppa écrivait: > If you have packaged some of the apps listed below, I just want to let > you know that the package in opkg.org is broken and not recognized as > an installable file Hi Risto. Mine (jdd) is correct on my local machine. I uploaded it again (twice because of a mistake) on opkg.org, and now the file n_ seems to be correct. The new naming convention (n_package) may cause some problems. Should I remove completely the package before reinstalling it ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MP3 to OGG converter
Le 14254ième jour après Epoch, rakshat hooja écrivait: > Can someone suggest a good MP3 to OGG music converter? There is also oggconvert, from the eponym debian package. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions
Le 14231ième jour après Epoch, Marcel écrivait: >> > Nearly every network I know uses 192.168.1.*, so the default is perfectly >> > fine... Although something like 192.168.64.* could be statistically more >> > failsafe. >> >> Actually in that case I would avoid all powers of two. A higher prime >> number, like 97, might be a good choice... > > I just typed some random numbers > 1 to get to the safer side... :) Did you mean hacker's random values are always powers of 2 ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Acustic 'empty battery warning' ?
Le 14230ième jour après Epoch,
Lothar Behrens écrivait:
> Am 17.12.2008 um 13:16 schrieb Timo Juhani Lindfors:
>
>> Lothar Behrens writes:
>>> Is there a way to do this ?
>>
>> while true; do
>> if [ `capacity` -lt 10 ]; then
>> alert
>> fi
>> sleep 120
>> done
>>
>
> this is a starting point :-)
I've a small script that works as a daemon, checking interval depends
on the charge (described on a file), play sounds (except when
charging) depending on the current charge.
There is no doc, no install proc, it's not packaged, but it can be
done easily...
The config file (default values in the script) contains:
# Les différents niveaux
THRESHOLDS="100:20:1200: 20:10:600:low 10:5:150:critical 5:0:30:emergency"
Each group of check parms is max:min:delay:sound
If level is between (_max_,_min_), the "aplay" _sound_.wav and wait _delay_
for next check.
Hope it helps.
#!/bin/sh
#
# Start or stop the bat alarm Daemon.
#
# Written by Francois TOURDE
#
[ -f /etc/default/batalarm ] && . /etc/default/batalarm
case "$1" in
start)
echo -n "Starting batalarm daemon: "
start-stop-daemon -S -p /var/run/batalarm.pid -m -x /usr/bin/batalarm &
if [ $? = 0 ]; then
echo "batalarm."
else
echo "(failed.)"
fi
;;
stop)
echo -n "Stopping batalarm daemon: "
start-stop-daemon -K -p /var/run/batalarm.pid &
echo "batalarm."
;;
restart|force-reload)
$0 stop
$0 start
exit
;;
*)
echo "Usage: /etc/init.d/batalarm {start|stop|restart|force-reload}"
exit 1
;;
esac
exit 0
#!/bin/sh
# -*- coding: utf-8 -*-
# Batalarm - An application to check bat
#
# Version 0.1
#
# Authors: Francois TOURDE
#
# Copyright (c) 2008 François TOURDE
#
# batalarm is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it
# under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the
# Free Software Foundation; either version 3 of the License, or (at your
# option) any later version.
#
# batalarm is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but
# WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
# MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU
# General Public License for more details.
#
# TODO
#
# Change List
#
# 2008-11-17: First release
# First, the default values:
BAT_CAPACITY=/sys/devices/platform/bq27000-battery.0/power_supply/bat/capacity
BAT_PLUGGED=/sys/devices/platform/bq27000-battery.0/power_supply/bat/online
BAT_ALERT=/usr/share/batalarm/sounds/
SLEEP_INIT=600
#
# Les différents niveaux
THRESHOLDS="100:20:1200: 20:10:600:low 10:5:150:critical 5:0:30:emergency"
[ -f /etc/default/batalarm ] && . /etc/default/batalarm
while true
do
v=$(cat $BAT_CAPACITY)
for t in $THRESHOLDS
do
t=$(echo $t|sed -e 's/:/ /g')
max=$(echo $t|awk '{print $1}')
min=$(echo $t|awk '{print $2}')
next=$(echo $t|awk '{print $3}')
file=$(echo $t|awk '{print $4}')
if [ $v -le $max -a $v -gt $min ]
then
SLEEP_VAL=$next
ALERT_FILE=$file
break;
fi
done
[ ! -z $ALERT_FILE ] && [ $(cat $BAT_PLUGGED) != 1 ] && aplay ${BAT_ALERT}${ALERT_FILE}".wav"
sleep $SLEEP_VAL
done
--
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Re: [OM2008] Events/0 eats 30% -- Causing Doom to run slow.
Le 14191ième jour après Epoch, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra écrivait: > On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 08:32:16PM +0900, William Kenworthy wrote: >> those flaming laptops popped into my mind :) - oddly, the battery wasnt >> any hotter than the rest of the phone, though the screen did seem so >> (perhaps whatever is behind the screen?) > > It's hot because of the intense activity, not because of the battery. > > The poor battery just get's an usage that drains it's poor life away, > poor... poor sad thing :| > >> On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 13:02 +0200, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: >> > SCarlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > > What is the remedy for this? Reboot? (Like MS-Windows?).. >> > >> > Don't use wifi :-) > >> Started playing with the wireless (just running the connect/disconnect >> scripts) and events/0 went back close to zero %. Nice, but wireless >> didnt work either and as its not modular it still needed a reboot. >> Playing with iwconfig didnt help either. > > Although wireless may help kickstart that bug, I don't believe it's the > cause. I agree, because I've never used Wifi (except for short tests, but not configured to auto start). I've noticed this issue often when I change the charge mode. Switching from wallplug to PC-USB is the way to obtain 30% cpu usage by event/0 :( > I'm don't use wireless on the Freerunner yet, ifconfig only shows lo and > usb0, and still I have had to reboot to fix the events/0 bug. Sometimes a suspend/resume may solve the problem. But I think a small illume cpu indicator may help to diagnose. I've not yet installed E17 successfully to write such an applet, but I'll try as soon as I have time to do that. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMooCow 0.1
Le 14167ième jour après Epoch, Thomas White écrivait: > I'm pleased to be able to announce version 0.1 of my "advanced > accelerometer and audio framework testing system", OpenMooCow. > Available from http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~taw27/openmoko/openmoocow/ Quote from my wife: "Cool ! Great silly app. on an object you can't use reliably as a phone !" She's angry against the "echo" issue ;) Small question: I've quickly looked on Makefiles, but don't see anything to build ipk. Did you build it by hand ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] process 'events/0' consuming a lot of CPU loops
Le 14165ième jour après Epoch, Andy Green écrivait: > Matthias Apitz wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I encounter from time to time the situation that the FR behaves slowly, >> for example in launching the Contacts or other stuff; this is because >> one process consumes a lot of CPU usage; top shows: > > It's worth having a look at this: > > https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1597 > > it seems to be related to WLAN. By WLAN did you mean 'Wifi' or just 'network with other than 192.168.0.x access' ? I've often encountered this issue, but in so different cases that I cant figure how I can help. Just a small info: I have had this issue even without wifi configurations/tests/power-on ... For me, it seems to be related on battery charging and charge mode. I'll try to be more aware of my Freerunner usage if I encounter this issue again. pgpTnc5sNUHDO.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ALSA] wiki RFC
Le 14145ième jour après Epoch, vasco nevoa écrivait: > Hi. > > To anyone who actually knows the dark magic of ALSA state files and > the way they are actually being used in the Freerunner, please go read > the wiki page and let me know if it has anything wrong, and if it > should have anything else. > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_Freerunner_audio_subsystem I put some small changes on the page, but I've no time yet to detail more. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ASU, 2008.8/.9] remove bottom section
Le 14144ième jour après Epoch, Marco Trevisan écrivait: > Vikas Saurabh wrote: >>> I have removed the assassin installer so it doesn't show up any more >>> (I do everything command line while ssh'd in) and I want to get rid >>> of the bottom thing with the little pluses. Is this a possibility? >>> >>> Anyone know how to do this? >> I am not exactly sure how to do that. But the tango theme doesn't have >> it, so it should surely be possible to have some modification in .edj >> file for illume. > > Yes... It should be quite easy. Just decompile the edj file, comment the > proper section (compare to the tango freerunner.edc file) and recompile > it back. Not so simple, but it seems to be the right place... check for "*" or "+", they are in the .edc In place, I've added the value "Bar;" in the Categories of "qtopia-clock.desktop" and "qtopia-ringtones.desktop" to get these two appli accessible from the bottom bar. HTH. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: display black: how to change backlight/pcf50633-bl/actual_brightness ?
Le 14141ième jour après Epoch, Harald Koenig écrivait: > Hi, > > sometimes my FR just stays "black" while the Xglamo is still responsive. > "actual_brightness" is zero, but it's not writable, so I can't change it > from the shell: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# head > /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/backlight/pcf50633-bl/*brightness > ==> > /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/backlight/pcf50633-bl/actual_brightness > <== > 0 > > ==> > /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/backlight/pcf50633-bl/brightness > <== > 63 > > ==> > /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/backlight/pcf50633-bl/max_brightness > <== > 63 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ls -l > /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/backlight/pcf50633-bl/*brightness > -r--r--r--1 root root0 Sep 19 15:04 > /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/backlight/pcf50633-bl/actual_brightness > -rw-r--r--1 root root0 Sep 19 15:05 > /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/backlight/pcf50633-bl/brightness > -r--r--r--1 root root 4096 Sep 19 15:04 > /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/backlight/pcf50633-bl/max_brightness Probably because *_brightness are read-only values, as unix perms seems to indicate... Try to write to: /sys/class/backlight/pcf50633-bl/brightness or /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/backlight/pcf50633-bl/brightness Both are rw and works for me (tm). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[2008.8]+ 3 Sept upgrade [Qtopia] Address book
Hi. Short version: Is there a way to create qtopia address book Groups during .vcf import ? And to start qtopia address book on groups instead of contacts ? Long version: Each time I reflash my FR (and it's relatively frequent ^^), I need to re-import my whole address book. Easy to do, but when I want to call somebody, I need to scroll a lot of my book... Is there a way to auto create groups during import, or can I import a file containing group definitions? Thanks a lot. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
2008.8 / Suspend and Illume [Was: illume-config-illume on 2008.8-updates]
Le 14123ième jour après Epoch, yves mahe écrivait: > Alexandre Girard wrote: >> Thanks for the hint, it works great to get back the illume keyboard! >> >> Only problem: my openmoko is going suspend after 30 sec, even with the >> suspend off in Settings. >> >> If it might help you to get the source of the problem, I'm seeing a >> giant X befre it goes suspend. >> >> Hope it´s not a big issue... >> >> Alex >> > > Already discussed in thread "Om2008.8 - latest update - FR suspends > after 30 secs - unconditionally" Yes, even using a non-zero return code from a apm proxy shell (/etc/apm/event.d/xxx). I've tested it and... it fails :'( -- Le mariage est la seule aventure ouverte aux lâches. -+- Voltaire -+- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU Illume Tango Theme
Le 14119ième jour après Epoch, Marco Trevisan écrivait: > Lars Formella wrote: >> because i personally dislike the build in asu/illume theme - in german we >> call it "augenkrebs" ;) - i created a new fresh one myself with some tango >> icons. >> >> you can find it here: >> http://52grad.de/.stuff/freerunner/ > > To have a better experience with this cool Illume theme in my Freerunner > I've updated the moko gtk theme to make it use the same colors of the > illume-sun theme. Now it looks really better to me: [1], [2] and [3]. > > To use it simply replace the standard gtkrc with my file [4] in > /usr/share/themes/Moko/gtk-2.0/gtkrc. Nice job, guys !!! I've adopted the themes, (Illume & GTK), and it's great ! I'm not sure they save power (due to high light), but it's s sexy than the standard black theme :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
2008.08 + opkg upgrade VS 2008.08-updates
Hi folks, First, I want to thanks OpenMoko inc. and all the community for the great job done. Using my FreeRunner since monday (it has the capacitor already soldered ^^), I've tested 2008.08 and 2008.08-updates, with the following images: 2008.08: Om2008.8-gta02-20080808.rootfs.jffs2 updates: 20080827-asu-stable-rootfs.jffs2 (with uImage and u-boot from the associated source) On the updates, even if it looks like 2008.08, I'm not able to install the keyboard from http://52grad.de/.stuff/freerunner and I can't find the top-left config icon. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't know how ;) PS: Is there a special sequence to re-flash from NOR or can I upload rootfs, then u-boot, then uImage, then boot on NAND ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Reason for GPS problems found!
Le 14075ième jour après Epoch, Jay Vaughan écrivait: >> You ever bought a piece of HW you were guaranteed there is >> *definitively* no >> hardware bug in it? None, or you get a billion$? >> c'mon! >> > > Ever heard of Consumers rights? Lemon Laws? You can't sell hardware > that you know has bugs in it, legally, in many places around the > world. First, you must be sure there is a hardware bug. For instance, nobody knows. Second, everybody here is aware that hardware, like software, is never bug-free. Especially on this device. I admit that hardware bug is harder to correct for the end-user, but it's the deal, no? Third, ... ahem.. no third yet. Don't forget that Openmoko Inc. is a Company trying to focus on 2 goals: - create a free software phone - Have an invest return (Je ne sais pas traduire "retour sur investissement") I've paid (but not yet received) my FR, and even if I know there can be a hardware problem, I'll never complain about HW problems. I imagine there will be a GTA03, smarter and cheaper, but I'm not in the same situation of the iPhone first buyers... They have to do the best effort to correct problems, but as far as I know, it's the first firm saying "We sell you a piece of hardware, with all specs we can diffuse, do what you want with it"... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
3D and auto-config.
Hi, Here is an article (in french, sorry): http://www.macbidouille.com/news/2008-04-12/#16175 about a very simple phone (one button: Call an operator, or Call emergency), with 2 good functionnalities: Phone on the desktop -> Speaker on On the desktop, reversed -> Vibrator mode That can be a good idea, no? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: accelerometer thought
Le 13980ième jour après Epoch, Joe Pfeiffer écrivait: > Tim Shannon writes: >>Sounds like a good idea, except for people who carry their phone in a bag, >>but definitely useful as an option nonetheless. > > Sure -- I was careful to say *my* use! Yes, and my usage too... :) Good idea ! But what about a "not moving for a while" switch? In my pocket, my bag, or other moving places, it will ring, and if it is staying on a desktop, or near my bed, it will use vibrator... But what happens if I try to locate it on my house, expecting it will ring :p (This situation is frequent, for me :) ) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qemu on GTA02, the problem still here
Le 13962ième jour après Epoch, John Lee écrivait: > Right now we have git hash in filename so the alpha sorting will not > be correct, so the function needs to be updated anyway. The svn version is in the filename too, so it will be probably the good way to get the last version. > Normally when I flash qemu I always modify openmoko/env to make sure > it gets the file I wanted. I prefer using mokomakefile, to focus on writing C++ code instead of playing with the build chain, but you're right, modifying openmoko/env file was the solution for me... execpt on 'make qemu-local' :( Next step will be "trying to run Xephyr version" ... And I imagine it will be the same hard job :p Thanks anyway for your time and your help. And again, good job guys, for what you're doing on the free side of the world ! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qemu on GTA02, the problem still here
Le 13961ième jour après Epoch, John Lee écrivait: > On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 10:53:45AM +0100, Jens Fursund wrote: >> On Sun, 2008-03-23 at 02:55 +0300, Evgeny Ginzburg wrote: >> > In current builds this bug exists, patch inserted in revision 4230, but >> > i really don't know which revision OE use now & how migrate to > 4230. > > It's on buildhost already: > http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/u-boot-gta01bv4-1.3.1+git0+b29661fc115106454288051bc9a488351ce8+svn4230-r3.bin > > the default env used by download.sh and flash.sh should be able to use > the latest files automatically, so MokoMakefile will also work. But it doesn't :(... In fact, the "most_recent" function in "download.sh" use alpha sorting to determine the most recent images, so in the list: u-boot-gta01bv4-1.3.1+svnr4223+gitb29661fc115106454288051bc9a488351ce8-r3.bin u-boot-gta01bv4-1.3.1+git0+b29661fc115106454288051bc9a488351ce8+svn4230-r3.bin the first one is the winner :( Perhaps renaming the file on the server is a good bypass, then modifying the "most_recent" proc. Hope this help... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Using Qemu for GTA02
Hi, I've not found in the Wiki how to run GTA02 and associated OM images on a qemu. Is it possible? Thanks in advance for any link/idea. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Problem trying to build qemu-local using MokoMakefile
Hi, Trying to run "make qemu-local", I got the following message, some lines after "Please wait, programming the NAND flash..." -8<---8<---8<---8<---8<-- neo_vib_switch: Vibrator stopped. neo_bl_switch: LCD Backlight now on. qemu: fatal: Trying to execute code outside RAM or ROM at 0x -8<---8<---8<---8<---8<-- (More detailed trace can be found here: http://pastebin.com/m239ade67) Any idea? Thanks in advance. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: digital compass modules
Le 13901ième jour après Epoch, Tilman Baumann écrivait: > François TOURDE wrote: >> Le 13901ième jour après Epoch, >> Schmidt András écrivait: >> >>> Tilman Baumann wrote: >>>> Bluetooth would be nice. You would need no hardware hacks on the >>>> phone itself. >>>> Should be pretty easy to hack a bluetooth->serial converter (like >>>> BlueSMiRF from sparkfun) to the sensor. Maybe with a little >>>> microcontroller glue in between. >>>> Bluetooth is very simple to code and simple to handle. >>> I was thinking about two possible applications: >>> >>> 1. The map of a GPS map viewer application turns when you turn the >>> machine so it is always aligned with the environment (this feature >>> is included on some GPS tools.) >> >> Maybe the 3D accels can do that. And the GPS can be used as a bearing >> indicator, when you move. No magnetic device needed in this case. > > Gyroscopes is what you look for. ;) Yes, but it's not (yet?) included in the phone :) ... But accels are. > Accelerameters don't see rotational movings. Except if this is 3D accels. If we omit the case of a rotation around the accels center (and we can because there is 2 accels), a rotation can be measured using this kind of devices. I imagine it's not so easy, but I think it's possible... with my poor knowledges in physics :) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: digital compass modules
Le 13901ième jour après Epoch, Schmidt András écrivait: > Tilman Baumann wrote: >> Bluetooth would be nice. You would need no hardware hacks on the >> phone itself. >> Should be pretty easy to hack a bluetooth->serial converter (like >> BlueSMiRF from sparkfun) to the sensor. Maybe with a little >> microcontroller glue in between. >> Bluetooth is very simple to code and simple to handle. > I was thinking about two possible applications: > > 1. The map of a GPS map viewer application turns when you turn the > machine so it is always aligned with the environment (this feature > is included on some GPS tools.) Maybe the 3D accels can do that. And the GPS can be used as a bearing indicator, when you move. No magnetic device needed in this case. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: root
Le 13889ième jour après Epoch, Schmidt András écrivait: > In my opinion there is nothing that the root account can protect on a > single user handheld device. Think of reflashing OS, apps, etc... > Phones are normally used single user. Yes, but this one can probably be multi-users. Maybe can I share my phone with friends, family, co-workers... Then why not have a group called 'freecalls', for example, owner of the SIM code? And a group called 'contacts', members allowed to access a global contact list ? It's not yet critical, but can be a serious advantage on using the phone and some particular apps, no? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Compiling problems
Le 13883ième jour après Epoch, François TOURDE écrivait: > Le 13883ième jour après Epoch, > Alberto Garfagnini écrivait: > >> Hi all, > > Hi > >> I'm having problems since two days in compiling openmoko images >> (actually since the night of the 3rd of January, Central Europe time). > [...] >> As you can see from the detailed output (posted at the URL: >> http://pastebin.ca/842530), the compile procedure complains about >> openmoko-terminal2 which cannot be found in the repository. > > Same problem here. I suppose it's the migration of the whole appli to > use v2 libs, so there is some problems to build some parts. Hi again, Alberto. I've a small kludge to generate the devel-image without terminal2, if you want to test: In the file ~/openmoko/openembedded/packages/tasks/task-openmoko-base.bb comment out the line containing openmoko-terminal2 Then rerun the make. HTH ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Small question about the Neo1973 interface
Hi. Surfing the net about the Neo, I found the old (?) interface (for example: http://youtube.com/watch?v=tQPjfUqp-dk or the captures in the Wiki). Did you think it will be possible and simple to reinstall this one in place of the new one? Looking at the sources, I've noticed the matchbox vs. xglamo (?). Am I right? Whatever, good job for the whole team engaged in this process. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Compiling problems
Le 13883ième jour après Epoch, Alberto Garfagnini écrivait: > Hi all, Hi > I'm having problems since two days in compiling openmoko images > (actually since the night of the 3rd of January, Central Europe time). [...] > As you can see from the detailed output (posted at the URL: > http://pastebin.ca/842530), the compile procedure complains about > openmoko-terminal2 which cannot be found in the repository. Same problem here. I suppose it's the migration of the whole appli to use v2 libs, so there is some problems to build some parts. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Apologies for spam - we will blacklist that account right away
Le 13874ième jour après Epoch, GWMobile écrivait: > Email should be instanteous and if the specs haven't been updated to > call for that then the specs are outdated. ??? Why eMail *should* be instantaneous? > I don't stay on groups with email delays because it is impossible to > have a conversation. Try Jabber or IRC, if you need conversations. In ML we don't tell that conversations but threads. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Ultimatum
Ok, now guys, stop joking !!! I'm waitin' for too long time for my phone, so the deal is: If the Red-clothed Old Man comes at home WITHOUT my Neo, you can consider him as my HOSTAGE ! He will never can go back, even using the fireplace ! No way to negociate, nobody can approach me, except his green-dwarf friends, whith the Wifi-aware GPS-enabled Neo1973 !!! ... Ok, just kidding ;) Sorry 4 my poor english, and: « bravo pour cet excellent travail que vous accomplissez » ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New future user :) of OpenMoko presentation
Le 13855ième jour après Epoch, Rodolphe Ortalo écrivait: > Le samedi 08 décembre 2007 à 13:57 +0100, François TOURDE a écrit : >> Hi .*, > > Bienvenue à bord! (== Welcome onboard!) Merci beaucoup :) >> I've subscribed announce, community, devel, apps. >> >> Thanks in advance for pointing me some MLs. > > framework-devel and gsm-devel are also interesting. Ok, I'll try these (gsmd-devel instead of gsm-devel, no?) I'm surfing on the gforge too, and there is lot of interresting projects :p May the Neo be available in France as soon as possible... X-mas will be a good date for me, because my birthdate is already gone ;) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
New future user :) of OpenMoko presentation
Hi .*, First, I apologize for my english. I'm waiting for the Neo1973 device (The GTA02v4 one), and while waiting I want to read news and infos. Please could you help me choosing the good ML? My skills: I'm a C/C++/ developper, a Debian server sysadmin and Debian desktop user. I've some dev ideas, I'm not yet capable of writing GUI parts of progs (I've done that under some windowed proprietary OS, but not with GNU/Linux). I've subscribed announce, community, devel, apps. Thanks in advance for pointing me some MLs. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
