Re: Keypad for fingers, not stylus

2007-10-10 Thread Jim McDonald
Tommi Virtanen wrote: On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 08:57:22AM +0200, Openmoko wrote: So far I've only implemented the very basics, e.g. to write a c three pushed on one butten is required. I've also plans for implementing a dictionary, e.g. T-9 or an alternative: the most common words appear

Re: Plea to developers: Make data for all applications available to scripting languages

2007-09-16 Thread Jim McDonald
Giles Jones wrote: On 15 Sep 2007, at 22:53, J F wrote: What I would like to see is ALL programs having a way of getting at their data from a scripting language. I don't know if it makes sense to have some guidelines for developers to make it easier for this information to be got at.

Re: application idea

2007-09-15 Thread Jim McDonald
John Locke wrote: Jim McDonald wrote: Possibly more interesting would be for the calendar app to look ahead at your position-to-be and provide you with details (or even alerts) of what (for example) the weather is likely to be when you get to where you are going. Knowing

Re: application idea

2007-09-12 Thread Jim McDonald
Jeff Andros wrote: Last night, while I was looking at the monsoon blowing just outside the heat-island... in my open-top jeep... I had an application idea: GPS based weather feeds. on a schedule/when you move into a new area, the phone will go out to a server and retrieve the weather

Re: ATI to provide specs

2007-09-10 Thread Jim McDonald
Harald Welte wrote: [...] Which part exactly are you missing? That there are no docs now? Well, there is no GTA02 hardware being shipped now either! And if the community rather wants us to finish the documentation first, and then write the driver: Please let us know. Do you really prefer

Re: Fwd: mailing list management

2007-08-14 Thread Jim McDonald
hank williams wrote: Oops. As usual I hit reply to and it went to casey personally Its broken. Just so that the 'silent majority' don't lose out on this one, I would like to point out that there are approximately 1,500 people subscribed to this list. Can we assume that unless we hear from

Re: OpenMoko future.

2007-07-28 Thread Jim McDonald
Rod Whitby wrote: Visti Andresen wrote: Sébastien Lorquet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (This is a suite to laforge's message on gsmd-devel) I'm a little disappointed about laforge's message :( Targetting geeks only will never help to make OpenMoko known. They are planning to

Re: OpenMoko future.

2007-07-28 Thread Jim McDonald
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: I don't see our statements as conflicting. Harald is our lead system level architect. His job is to focus on his task at hand and deliver a stable, high performance system. He's trying to give the geeks what they want first. Which is great, the concern was around

Re: External Handler Proof of Concept

2007-07-26 Thread Jim McDonald
Kero van Gelder wrote: [...] I'll think about the extension concept a bit more. The fact that you chose a scenario to modify a phone number is interesting. How about calling a person from a Contact? and then choosing VoIP or GSM by those extensions? (specifically, I do not think gsmd is the

Re: External Handler Proof of Concept

2007-07-26 Thread Jim McDonald
Kero van Gelder wrote: Something I thought of, the application (or whatever) that might want to register an extension need not be started yet. After all, DBus is capable of starting applications (and I'm sure Contacts, Agenda and a few more will be in the nearby future). Yep I'm planning

Re: Hooks in Base Code

2007-07-24 Thread Jim McDonald
Henryk Plötz wrote: Don't worry too much about that right now. I don't know what the current plan for this problem is but, given that OpenMoko already uses dbus, I'm quite sure that it will include dbus. Going from I have an application that, when a call comes in, pops up a dialog and asks the

Re: Hooks in Base Code

2007-07-21 Thread Jim McDonald
Hans L wrote: Hey folks, Great discussion going on here. I've been putting a lot of thought into the issue too, so I figured I'd add my two cents. [...] Yep this is very similar to what I'm thinking of. Given that we're all pretty close to what we think we need it's probably time to put

Re: Hooks in Base Code

2007-07-20 Thread Jim McDonald
Henry Law wrote: What about using a system similar to iptables? Each module only provide function to match against some call info. Some target actions are defined by the notification system. And rules is setup by user so that when a call event come in, the notification system can check the

Re: Hooks in Base Code

2007-07-20 Thread Jim McDonald
Jeff Andros wrote: ok, but here's the thing with having full plugin framework: what if two plugins take mutually exclusive actions (I.E. one plugin has a whitelist, it tries to answer the phone because it's the girlfriend, but the other plugin attempts to send the call to voicemail because

Re: Hooks in Base Code

2007-07-20 Thread Jim McDonald
Giles Jones wrote: I don't think the project will last long if there's too much snobbery about who does what. In this case it isn't snobbery so much as ensuring that there is a simple way to put the right functionality in the right place. Overloading gsmd with lots of (potentially

Re: Hooks in Base Code

2007-07-19 Thread Jim McDonald
Giles Jones wrote: Jim McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : This is why you send the event to the notification system and then wait for the response. The notification system would read the users rules and act appropriately. For an incoming call if you had a rule which says you are busy

Re: Hooks in Base Code

2007-07-19 Thread Jim McDonald
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, first time you mentioned Firefox, I thought you meant browser and/or GUI stuff. But you focus on extensions/plugins :) Sorry yep was thinking of the design philosophy rather than the specifics. If I look at my own install I have four of five extensions (out of

Hooks in Base Code

2007-07-18 Thread Jim McDonald
[This may have been better to post to the development list but as people are talking about it here I'll start here] Hi, A number of people have been talking about the cool things that they would like their 'phone to do but after spending some time looking at the information available so far I

Re: Hooks in Base Code

2007-07-18 Thread Jim McDonald
gsmd, it makes more sense for them to be external modules that can be chained together in a clean fashion without requiring direct access to something as sensitive as gsmd. At least, that's my take on it. --Dan Cheers, Jim. On 7/18/07, *Jim McDonald* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Hooks in Base Code

2007-07-18 Thread Jim McDonald
Anton Afanasyev wrote: I am not entirely sure if I'm thinking straight, but here's my take on customizing functionality of the OpenMoko: say, when a call comes in, the appropriate module detects that, gets the caller ID if possible, maybe other info (such as the contact info associated with it,

Re: Hooks in Base Code

2007-07-18 Thread Jim McDonald
Doug Jones wrote: Take a look at EToys. [...] That's certainly a style of GUI that could be applied to the hooks if required, although at current I'm more concerned about the ability for the hooks to exist than the specifics of how they would be configured. Cheers, Jim.

Re: Proposal: Personal Data Encryption (maybe SoC?)

2007-03-20 Thread Jim McDonald
Tim Newsom wrote: The best part is that if you don't want it, you don't use it. And those that do want it, can use it and its all completley transparent to the applications. But not at all transparent to the end user. Again assuming that there is some sort of key caching going on, what is

Re: Proposal: Personal Data Encryption (maybe SoC?)

2007-03-20 Thread Jim McDonald
Tim Newsom wrote: [Encryption options] Yep I understand that there are lots of possibilities and options, I just think that if something ships by default it should provide end users with a very simple dialog that is basically an on/off switch for 'protection of personal data' (or something

Re: Proposal: Personal Data Encryption (maybe SoC?)

2007-03-19 Thread Jim McDonald
Jonathon Suggs wrote: One of the biggest mantra's I hear coming from the FOSS camp is choice and so keeping with the whole practice what you preach ideal, I think the level of encryption should be a user configurable preference. I'd caveat that with comment that one of the biggest bugbears

Re: Proposal: Personal Data Encryption (maybe SoC?)

2007-03-19 Thread Jim McDonald
Joe Pfeiffer wrote: [Encrypting data] We certainly want a global scheme -- but I think we do want a per-data-item granularity. I've certainly got things on my phone whose protection I don't care about (shopping lists) and other things that have legal implications (notes on how various

Re: Proposal: Personal Data Encryption (maybe SoC?)

2007-03-19 Thread Jim McDonald
Clare Johnstone wrote: On 3/20/07, Jim McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: continually asking the user to decide which data is to be encrypted and which not. There is the concept of folders which could be used :) clare True, but that's just another choice to be made when storing the data

Re: Proposal: Personal Data Encryption (maybe SoC?)

2007-03-18 Thread Jim McDonald
Joel Newkirk wrote: Tobias Gruetzmacher wrote: What I'm proposing is a user-friendly encryption scheme of the data the user stores in his phone, so any illegitimate user will not be able to get personal data about the owner of the phone. I'd like a good gestural

Re: DBus for Generic Data Access Methods?

2007-01-30 Thread Jim McDonald
Marcel Holtmann wrote: [...] Okay so there has been a fair amount of discussion here but I think we've veered off track a bit. To try to re-phrase my thoughts: - Current DBus object paths are application-centric (this is by choice of the application) - Without a well-known set of paths

Re: DBus for Generic Data Access Methods?

2007-01-30 Thread Jim McDonald
Marcel Holtmann wrote: [...] the question is still why. We have EDS. So no reason to invent another interface for the same purpose. Don't try to over-complicate things. So this is an argument against abstraction, which I understand but disagree with. It comes back to the two choices that