Re: Two queries about Android installation

[Leonti Bielski]

Is it possible at all to run Android from SD card?

I want to have SHR in NAND and Android in SD just for testing my programs.

Thanks!

   Leonti

On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 10:59 PM, James Ancona  wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 6:59 AM, Neil Jerram 
> wrote:
>>
>> I'm interested in taking a look at Android...
>>
>> 1. The installation instructions seem to involve both a full SD card
>> (which will be completely overwritten) and flashing the NAND.  What I
>> don't understand is whether the SD card is only needed during
>> installation, or if the same SD card needs to stay in the phone
>> afterwards, when booting Android from NAND.
>
> The installer puts all of Android in NAND. After installation the SD card is
> only used for extra storage (web downloads, media, etc.) Any FAT formatted
> SD card will do. You can run with no SD card in there, but as I recall, some
> things don't work.
>>
>> 2. I understand that the Android installation flashes a modified
>> version of the Qi bootloader.  Can this modified version still boot
>> other distributions, in particular Debian?
>
> It should boot other distributions from SD. The modification is because
> Andoid uses a different NAND partition layout. If you want to replace
> Android with a different distribution in NAND, you should reflash Qi.
> Hope that helps!
> Jim
>
>>
>> Basically the situation is that I want to keep Debian (on SD) as my
>> main distribution, but have Android in NAND for trying out.  I have
>> another SD card (512Mb) that I can use just for the Android install,
>> but after that I'd like to put the Debian SD card back in.
>>
>> Thanks for any answers and advice!
>>
>>    Neil
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Re: GameRunner distribution

[Leonti Bielski]

I just wanted to express my gratitude for creating this distro.

I'm going on a trip in a few days and this just what I needed!!!

Leonti

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:48 PM, GNUtoo  wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-04-29 at 11:05 -0700, Rafael Ignacio Zurita wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>>   GameRunner is an Openmoko Linux distribution. It aims convert
>> the Freerunner open mobile phone in a Linux-based handheld
>> game console.
>> It is simple, and contains cool and suitable open source games for
>> Linux mobile devices.
> Great idea!!!
> But I would prefer to just:
> opkg install task-gamerunner under SHR,or shr-gamerunner images.
>
> A big issue is that I was unable to remove frame pointer under a recent
> kernel...
> and frame pointer says:
>
> CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER:
>
> If you say Y here the resulting kernel image will be slightly
> larger and slower, but it gives very useful debugging information
> in case of kernel bugs. (precise oopses/stacktraces/warnings)
>
> If I remember well on htcdream that had huge performances impact
> (from unusable midori to usable)
>
>
> By the way we have some games in openembedded and maybe SHR:
> *battle for wesnoth
> *xboard + gnuchess and/or phalanx(for beginners)
> *mokomaze
> *pingus
> *scummvm
> *numpty physics
> *supertux
> *etc
> just grep for game in openembedded
>
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Android: can't connect to adb

[Leonti Bielski]

Hello!

I've just installed Android 0.2.0RC1 from:

http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/downloads/list

I can ping 192.168.0.202 alright.

I enabled adb access on the phone using the guide:
http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/wiki/AndroidDebugBridge

But when I run:
ADBHOST=192.168.0.202 adb devices
List of devices attached

List is empty.

Are there any additional steps to get ADB working?

Thanks,
Leonti

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Re: Android: can't connect to adb

[Leonti Bielski]

I'm taking my words back about good ping to 192.168.0.202 :(

Turns out the connection is extremely unstable.
I can ping the phone just after I connect to it or reconnect the cable.
I get a couple of pings and than "Destination Host Unreachable".
 For example:

From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=5 Destination Host Unreachable
From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=6 Destination Host Unreachable
64 bytes from 192.168.0.202: icmp_seq=16 ttl=64 time=5.20 ms
From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=70 Destination Host Unreachable
From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=71 Destination Host Unreachable
From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=72 Destination Host Unreachable
From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=73 Destination Host Unreachable

That time when I received data from phone I replugged the cable.

To summarize - I get a couple of seconds of using the ADB before
connection is lost again :(

Has anyone experienced this weird problem?

Leonti



On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 2:34 AM, Leonti Bielski  wrote:
> Hello!
>
> I've just installed Android 0.2.0RC1 from:
>
> http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/downloads/list
>
> I can ping 192.168.0.202 alright.
>
> I enabled adb access on the phone using the guide:
> http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/wiki/AndroidDebugBridge
>
> But when I run:
> ADBHOST=192.168.0.202 adb devices
> List of devices attached
>
> List is empty.
>
> Are there any additional steps to get ADB working?
>
> Thanks,
>    Leonti
>

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Why not use forum?

[Leonti Bielski]

Hi!
I was wondering - why are we not using forum for community?
It's much  better to view, you can subscribe and unsubscribe to the
topics you want and etc.
The main
Personally I don't like mailing list because it's not that comfortable
and I can see no advatages of using mailing list instead of forum?
Can anyone explain to me why we can't install

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Frerunner fax capability

[Leonti Bielski]

Hi all!
Is freerunner capable of sending and receiving faxes? Does the gsm
chip has to have fax capability or is it just the software?
Leonti

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Re: SHR first impression : it's slow ?

[Leonti Bielski]

Finally I found a repo with working links-x11!

Dziękuję indeed.

On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Petr Vanek  wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:24:18 +0100
> Johny Tenfinger  (JT) wrote:
>
>>cd /etc/opkg && wget
>>http://openmoko.opendevice.org/build/shr-unstable/feed/shr-unstable-pl.conf
>
> Dziękuję bardzo :)
>
> btw watch for the line wraps whoever wants to use the above :)
>
> uff, these are tons of updates! what am i getting into? :)
>
> cheers
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[SHR/FSO] - GPS - no fix, ogpsd.pickle question

[Leonti Bielski]

Hi!
I'm running latest SHR unstable distribution and there is no way I can
get gps fix.

1. System time and timezone are set correctly.
2. ogps.pickle removed.
3. Phone restarted.
Still no fix.

I even tried to reflash phone to om 2008.08 distro - "Locations"
application can get my GPS position.
When I'm back to SHR - no fix.

I'm checking for fix with Zhone to 'cut the middle-man' and be sure
it's gps, not fso-gpsd or any other problem.
So shortly after I launch Zhone and press 'gps' button I see in terminal:

Requested debug packet NAV-SVINFO
gps fix status changed: 1 #it can't be real fix, because it happens in
a few seconds

gps got ubxdebug packet
gps got ubxdebug packet # to infinity and beyond

Please notice, that this test was made in the same exact location with
an external antenna at approximately same time with om 2008.8 distro
and SHR unstable with (2.6.28 kernel).
I know a lot of people have problems with GPS in SHR Unstable, so it
would be beneficial for all of us to find the problem.

Can someone point me to low-level stuff I should check to get to the
bottom of this?


Leonti

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illume keyboard - only navigate buttons

[Leonti Bielski]

Some time ago on scap.linuxtogo.org I've seen illume keyboard only
with navigate buttons - right, left, up, down and some others.

I would like to use it for navigation in browsers - right know I use
terminal keyboard to navigate through web-page in links-x11.
Does anyone know where I can find it?

Thanks.
Leonti

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Re: illume keyboard - only navigate buttons

[Leonti Bielski]

Thanks!
It's even better than I expected to find!
Valuable info.
Leonti

On 2/26/09, Helge Hafting  wrote:
> Leonti Bielski wrote:
>> Some time ago on scap.linuxtogo.org I've seen illume keyboard only
>> with navigate buttons - right, left, up, down and some others.
>>
>> I would like to use it for navigation in browsers - right know I use
>> terminal keyboard to navigate through web-page in links-x11.
>> Does anyone know where I can find it?
>
> A custom keyboard isn't that difficult to make.
> An illume keyboard is just a textual list of keys:
> Coordinates for where the key is, how big it is, what function (letter
> or cursor key) it performs. So you can copy the terminal keyboard file,
>
> /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards/Terminal.kbd
>
> Then you simply delete the keys you don't need from the copy.
> Finally, make the remaining keys bigger by adjusting their
> coordinates.
>
> To use your new keyboard, save the new file as:
> /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards/Navigation.kbd
> Bring up the illume keyboard, press the little qwerty icon
> in the upper right corner, and select your special keyboard
> from the list. It will be there if you saved the file to the correct folder.
>
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Word processing application

[Leonti Bielski]

Hi!
I'm looking for some kind of word processing application.
I want to use my Freerunner in a library so I would not have to bring
laptop with me - only the keyboard.
I've heard of AbiWord, but can't manage to find an ipk package for it.
Also, is there emacs package for Freerunner available?
Can someone suggest something else for text editing?

Leonti

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Re: [SHR-ustable] gprs is also unstable

[Leonti Bielski]

Yes, I do :(

I think this is because not in every place gprs is available all the time.
When connection is lost it does not recover.
I think it is more of FSo problem than SHR.

Leonti

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> Hello community,
>
> unstableness of SHR(which name claims stability) follows with instablity
> of GPRS connection. Several minutes and it is over, you have to restart
> it manually.
>
> Does anyone else experience this?
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Re: Word processing application

[Leonti Bielski]

Thanks all for answering!
I'm using SHR - unstable (testing now). Solved my problem by
installing leafpad - simple, but with word wrapping :)
Also compiled abiword with OE, but didn't install yet.

Leonti

On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Sven Bretfeld  wrote:
> Leonti Bielski  writes:
>
>> Also, is there emacs package for Freerunner available?
>
> Emacs can be installed from one of the user-repositories mentioned at
> the openmoko website. I cannot remember which one. But it worked only with
> problems on my device. Sometimes it didn't start at all, not even in a
> shell.
>
> I would recommend to install Debian on the SD card [¹]. In Debian you can
> install everything including Abiword and Emacs. I even had LaTeX
> installed on my OM.
>
> Greetings
>
> Sven
>
> [¹]  http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner.
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Re: Word processing application

[Leonti Bielski]

I've just added it to opkg.org:
http://www.opkg.org/package_152.html

Pleae let me know if it depends on something that you don't have - I
will add it.

Leonti

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:29 AM, kimaidou  wrote:
> Hi
>
> Could you point out the link to leafpad ipf file please ? I would like to
> try it :D
>
> Thanks
>
> 2009/3/4 Leonti Bielski 
>>
>> Thanks all for answering!
>> I'm using SHR - unstable (testing now). Solved my problem by
>> installing leafpad - simple, but with word wrapping :)
>> Also compiled abiword with OE, but didn't install yet.
>>
>> Leonti
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Sven Bretfeld 
>> wrote:
>> > Leonti Bielski  writes:
>> >
>> >> Also, is there emacs package for Freerunner available?
>> >
>> > Emacs can be installed from one of the user-repositories mentioned at
>> > the openmoko website. I cannot remember which one. But it worked only
>> > with
>> > problems on my device. Sometimes it didn't start at all, not even in a
>> > shell.
>> >
>> > I would recommend to install Debian on the SD card [¹]. In Debian you
>> > can
>> > install everything including Abiword and Emacs. I even had LaTeX
>> > installed on my OM.
>> >
>> > Greetings
>> >
>> > Sven
>> >
>> > [¹]  http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner.
>> >
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Language of hardware keyboard

[Leonti Bielski]

Hello!
Yesterday I tried to connect my hardware keyboard to Freerunner.
I'm using SHR - testing and I used [1] to make it work.
But the language of the keyboard is English. How do I change that?

Leonti


1. 
http://git.openmoko.org/?p=openmoko.git;a=blob_plain;f=packages/xserver-kdrive-common/xserver-kdrive-common/openmoko/Xserver;h=a26c5c2d702dd427529f5c67e94058456bc49407

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Re: Language of hardware keyboard

[Leonti Bielski]

¡Muchas gracias!
I found a script which uses xmodmap for polish keyboard. After some
modifications it works perfectly!

Leonti

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Jorge Luis Chamorro
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> Helge Hafting escribió:
>
> Leonti Bielski wrote:
>
>
> Hello!
> Yesterday I tried to connect my hardware keyboard to Freerunner.
> I'm using SHR - testing and I used [1] to make it work.
> But the language of the keyboard is English. How do I change that?
>
>
>
> There are at least two ways:
>
> 1. Select a proper keyboard in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
>
> the file shoukld have a section like this for a Norwegian keyboard. For
> another language, replace "no" with whatever you need.
>
> Section "InputDevice"
>  Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
>  Driver "kbd"
>  Option "CoreKeyboard"
>  Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
>  Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
>  Option "XkbLayout" "no"
> EndSection
>
> However, the FR ships without a xorg.conf file. So some experimentation
> is needed to see if it honors the file, and if you need to install extra
> keyboard files that not necessarily comes with the device.
>
> 2. Remap the keyboard using xmodmap
> The FR ships with xmodmap, so you can write a script that uses several
> xmodmap commands, one per key that differ from english layout. Then
> arrange so the script is executed whenever X starts on your freerunner.
>
> Helge Hafting
>
>
> With xmodmap :
> I configure the keyboard on my Desktop PC and run xmodmad -pke >
> keys-on-pc.txt
> and also run xmodmad -pke > keys-on-neo.txt on my neo.
> Then I put some info from keys-on-pc.txt to keys-on-neo.txt and create a
> modified version of keys-on-neo.txt
> So when I plug the external keyboard I run xmodmad keys-on-neo-modified.txt.
> If I put keys-on-pc.txt directly on Neo I have problems with some keys (
> arrows )
>
> Saludos , Jorge
>
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Re: Freerunner GSM Buzz fix, warranty and hopes...

[Leonti Bielski]

The legality of DOA (Dead On Arrival) warranty depends on country of sale.
In USA it's totally legal.
In Poland 1 year minimum warranty has to be added. Don't know about
other EU countries.

All of the issues were described on the official webpage, so it's like
buying used phone and than complaining about scratches.
So basically all those flaws (buzz, gps, #1024 bug) were part of the
hardware you bought and warranty should not cover them. All other
flaws like screen stops working, some connectors not working -
anything that was not described and occured during normal usage of the
phone - should be covered by warranty if you have one.

I'm not a lawyer but it seems logical to me.
Leonti


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> Hello lists, hello Openmoko and hello dear reseller
>
> It is not my first time asking this both on the lists and to Trisoft. It
> won't be the last I fear...
>
> Do we have any hope for a mass fix for the GSM Buzz issue or will we have
> to buy a
> GTA03 (and get new hardware issues) ?
>
> I am more and more thinking that warranty at Openmoko is a do-it-yourself
> concept... While I am not a lawyer I would think a do-it-yourself warranty
> is no
> warranty, and we are meant to have one... This is not just ranting.
> Legally, I would say Openmoko would be troubled if
> some consumer association started asking questions.
>
> Same goes for Trisoft, which remain unusually silent when I ask this kind
> of question without being public about it.
>
> Now that everybody is in CC, let's get some answers.
>
> To me and probably many other users the critical question is not whether
> hardware issues get fixed fast or not. The question is a purely logistical
> one. Will the devices that have been sold so far be fixed one day ?
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Re: Word processing application

[Leonti Bielski]

Thanks all for your help!

GNUtoo, I followed your suggestion number 1. Thanks.
I've just installed Abiword from my local OE repository and I have to
say that it's really cool stuff!
It's a little too much to what I want to do (leafpad is enough), but
ability to work with complicated word processing files on my phone is
great!

Leonti

On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 6:21 PM, GNUtoo  wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-03-03 at 18:08 +0100, Leonti Bielski wrote:
>> Hi!
>> I'm looking for some kind of word processing application.
>> I want to use my Freerunner in a library so I would not have to bring
>> laptop with me - only the keyboard.
>> I've heard of AbiWord, but can't manage to find an ipk package for it.
>> Also, is there emacs package for Freerunner available?
>> Can someone suggest something else for text editing?
>>
>> Leonti
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> I've compiled both...so you have 3 solutions
> 1)compile it yourself with openembedded...I can give you my recipes
> 2)find the packages in an official distro
> I found emacs(non-x11 version) in FSO's unstable repository
> 3)find them in my repositories(split in 2 because of a data-loss) but I
> don't like this idea because:
> *my connection is slow in upload
> *I'm not an official repository => the software comes with no kind of
> support at all,specially because I had data loss and if there is a
> problem with the first repository(and there are some such as wesnoth
> lacking libpng3 as rdepend) I will have to bitbake the recipe
> again...and the libs have to be bitbaken again...wich takes a lot of
> time...
> *I had not the time of investigating why I can't change the fonts with
> emacs-x11
> Denis.
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Re: illume keyboard - only navigate buttons

[Leonti Bielski]

Thanks!

I modified it for my purpose (left only
left/right/up/down/page_up/page_down buttons).
Is there any way to shrink the keyboard?
I mean I have now only one line of buttons but it takes the same
amount of space.
Is it possible to make the "container" of buttons smaller?

Leonti

On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Pander  wrote:
> see also
>  http://www.opkg.org/package_144.html
>
> Leonti Bielski wrote:
>> Thanks!
>> It's even better than I expected to find!
>> Valuable info.
>> Leonti
>>
>> On 2/26/09, Helge Hafting  wrote:
>>> Leonti Bielski wrote:
>>>> Some time ago on scap.linuxtogo.org I've seen illume keyboard only
>>>> with navigate buttons - right, left, up, down and some others.
>>>>
>>>> I would like to use it for navigation in browsers - right know I use
>>>> terminal keyboard to navigate through web-page in links-x11.
>>>> Does anyone know where I can find it?
>>> A custom keyboard isn't that difficult to make.
>>> An illume keyboard is just a textual list of keys:
>>> Coordinates for where the key is, how big it is, what function (letter
>>> or cursor key) it performs. So you can copy the terminal keyboard file,
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards/Terminal.kbd
>>>
>>> Then you simply delete the keys you don't need from the copy.
>>> Finally, make the remaining keys bigger by adjusting their
>>> coordinates.
>>>
>>> To use your new keyboard, save the new file as:
>>> /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards/Navigation.kbd
>>> Bring up the illume keyboard, press the little qwerty icon
>>> in the upper right corner, and select your special keyboard
>>> from the list. It will be there if you saved the file to the correct folder.
>>>
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Re: AGPS question

[Leonti Bielski]

I have a second question:

In agps package for u-blox you have to provide approximate location of
your phone and radius (for example 150 kms).
What does it change? If I provide some longitude and latitude and set
some huge radius will it affect anything?
Is it possible to eliminate it at all?

My brother has N95 with Agps and he does not have to provide his
location while using agps service.

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Re: [SHR-Testing] Packages mismatch ?

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I had the same problem. Looks like Packages.gz is not up to date.
Just run opkg install
http://openmoko.opendevice.org/build/shr-unstable/feed/armv4t/shr-settings_0.1.
0+r75+db5ab33d99dfaddafd61143c90ba5da5f3a42150-r2_armv4t.ipk
to get newest version.

Leonti

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> Hi All,
>
> I'm trying to upgrade 'SHR Testing' for the first time.
>
> Ofter an 'opkg update', attempting an 'opkg upgrade' results in the following:
>
> r...@om-gta02 /etc/opkg $ opkg upgrade
> Upgrading shr-settings on root from 
> 0.1.0+r4c57ad048840ca7fcffe440e98043e57eeb40a6a-r2 to 
> 0.1.0+r72+8bb135bd2297712aa15cd315d28fcdc82b49aadb-r2...
> Downloading 
> http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/ipk//armv4t/shr-settings_0.1.0+r72+8bb135bd2297712aa15cd315d28fcdc82b49aadb-r2_armv4t.ipk
> Collected errors:
>  * Failed to download 
> http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/ipk//armv4t/shr-settings_0.1.0+r72+8bb135bd2297712aa15cd315d28fcdc82b49aadb-r2_armv4t.ipk,
>  error 404
>  * Failed to download shr-settings. Perhaps you need to run 'opkg update'?
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Re: [SHR] which webbrowser in testing

[Leonti Bielski]

Try links-x11. It's fast, it has working ssl.
Netsurf is also interesing.

Leonti

On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Sander  wrote:
> Richy wrote (ao):
>>    alternatives: midori or minino
>
> Minimo is replaced by Fennec:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimo
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Google web pages optimizer

[Leonti Bielski]

Hi!

http://www.google.com/gwt/n - here you can optimize webb pages for pda
use - very useful for expensive gprs connection.

Did not know about this before today, so just had to share in case
someone else finds it useful.

Leonti

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Cellhunter 0.4.2 - no neighbour cells?

[Leonti Bielski]

Hi!
Yesterday I installed Cellhunter 0.4.2.
It works great except for not displaying neighbour cells - they are
all displayed as zeroes.
The main cell is displayed allright.
I'm using Shr-testing and latest framework.

Leonti

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Re: [Cellhunter] no neighbouring cells

[Leonti Bielski]

So the problem is in FSO?
Why then I get neighbouring cells in zhone and not in Cellhunter?
That kinda excludes problem in framework.

Leonti

On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Pander  wrote:
> Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
>> Am Freitag, den 06.03.2009, 17:45 +0100 schrieb Pander:
>>> I verify that with the new SHR testing and the same cellhunter version,
>>> that cellhunter it is not reporting on neighbouring cells.
>>
>> Please take a look at fso/milestone5.5 branch, Jan added a patch that
>> makes it work again with the latest framework.
>
> Hopefully that will be soon available via opkg upgrade. ;)
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Navit is not finding current position

[Leonti Bielski]

Hello!
I've just installed navit from it's repository.
I use SHR - testing distro.
Fisrt I start TangoGPS and wait for fix (with latest frameworkd it's
quite quick), than, after fix is got and I'm sure fso-gpsd is working
I start Navit.
But nothing indicates that it has found it's position. In Menu ->
Actions coordinates are still 48 and 11 (factory ones).

How can I see my actual position?

Leonti

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Re: [Cellhunter] no neighbouring cells

[Leonti Bielski]

What does this patch do?
Why Zhone shows neighbouring cells ok, and Cellhunter doesn't?

Leonti

On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:54 PM, Sebastian Hammerl
 wrote:
> Pander schrieb:
>> I verify that with the new SHR testing and the same cellhunter version,
>> that cellhunter it is not reporting on neighbouring cells.
>>
>>
> mmh, i use shr testing without problems. did you upgrade (i did not)?
>
> the latest fso version requires the patch from jan. i will integrate it
> at on sunday i guess.
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Re: Navit is not finding current position

[Leonti Bielski]

Any hint on this?
What am I doing wrong?

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Re: Navit is not finding current position

[Leonti Bielski]

Yeap, this helped.
Thanks for help!

Leonti

On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Christ van Willegen
 wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Christ van Willegen
>  wrote:
>>> Any hint on this?
>>> What am I doing wrong?
>>
>> If you run Navit from the terminal, it may tell you...
>>
>> In my case, it seems that the libgps installed on my system is too new.
>>
>> I haven't figured out how to solve this yet, but I'll let you know if
>> I find out.
>
> I got Navit to work doing the following
> - Drop to a shell prompt on the FreeRunner (or use ssh to connect)
> - cd /usr/lib
> - ln -s libgps.so.17 libgps.so.16
>
> This makes Navit think that libgps.so.16 is installed.
>
> Note: This may work for Navit for now, but may break other programs.
>
> HTH!
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Re: IRC conversation with Mirko from the Paroli team

[Leonti Bielski]

Ive read this  thread and I'm still wondering, what seems to be the problem?

Paroli is being written, it has it's own site with news and important info.
Source code is available.

So why developers should spend any more time just to feed curiosity?
They have better things to do, like actual coding.

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Re: [Cellhunter] no neighbouring cells

[Leonti Bielski]

It's working now!
Thanks!

Leonti

On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
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> Am Montag, den 09.03.2009, 00:42 +0100 schrieb Daniel Willmann:
>> On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 18:12:50 +0100
>> Leonti Bielski  wrote:
>>
>> > So the problem is in FSO?
>> > Why then I get neighbouring cells in zhone and not in Cellhunter?
>> > That kinda excludes problem in framework.
>>
>> No, frameworkd is the problem in that case. Zhone uses the DBus API to
>> get neighbouring cells while cellhunter prior to that patch used the
>> debug interface to send a special AT command to the modem (which is
>> what the neighbouring cell DBus API does anyway).
>>
>> It seems that the new-timeout branch has somehow make the debug
>> commands useless, we'll need to investigate that.
>
> Should be fixed with beef8c40c13ec8aaf9e4a973eb053ae3373aa43d
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Script using dbus-send - not very reliable

[Leonti Bielski]

Hi!
I was using mdbus to request CPU and Display resources but it's too slow.
So I decided to use dbus-send since it's very quick.
Here my script:

#!/bin/sh
dbus-send --system --type=method_call --dest=org.shr.ophonekitd.Usage
/org/shr/ophonekitd/Usage org.shr.ophonekitd.Usage.RequestResource
string:CPU

It's also on:
http://pastebin.com/m3563e31c

The problem is that it does not work first time. I have to run the
script twice to make it work.
Same goes to other scripts that I modified from mdbus to dbus-send.

Any ideas?

Leonti

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Re: Script using dbus-send - not very reliable

[Leonti Bielski]

Yeap, I'm using ophonekitd thing.

But this is not strictly about requesting resources. Another example -
script to turn gprs on.
It works with mdbus for the first time. With dbus-send I have to run it twice.

Leonti

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> On Monday 16 March 2009, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
>> Leonti Bielski  writes:
>> > The problem is that it does not work first time. I have to run the
>>
>> "Does not work"? I don't think you can request resources with
>> dbus-send. The moment you exit() it will release the resource.
>
> That's true of ousaged, but ophonekitd is providing a script-friendly
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Finger Friendly chess program

[Leonti Bielski]

Hello!

I'm looking for chess application to play on my FR.
What choices do I have?

Right now I have fltk-chess installed, but it is not finger-friendly
(board is not resized).

Leonti

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Re: Finger Friendly chess program

[Leonti Bielski]

What distribution do you use?

On SHR I get:
xboard: no fonts match pattern -*-helvetica-bold-r-normal--*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

Leonti

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:07 AM, John Sullivan  wrote:
> Leonti Bielski  writes:
>
>> Hello!
>>
>> I'm looking for chess application to play on my FR.
>> What choices do I have?
>>
>> Right now I have fltk-chess installed, but it is not finger-friendly
>> (board is not resized).
>>
>
> I've been happy with Xboard.
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Re: [Cellhunter] no offline log any more

[Leonti Bielski]

What do you mean by "no log was re-generated"?

Script cellhunter_upload.sh send info to the server and then delets log file.

New log will be created next time you are using cellhunter in offline mode.

Leonti

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Tony Berth  wrote:
> I have SHR latest unstable and the latest cellhunter version.
>
> In the very first beginning, when I switched to offline mode a log was
> indeed created. After going online and run 'cellhunter_upload.sh' to upload
> it to the cellhunter server, no log was re-generated? Why?
>
> Thanks
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Re: Finger Friendly chess program

[Leonti Bielski]

Rakshat, http://www.opkg.org/package_167.html

Ed, I've installed the font but it's still not working. Same error.
Trying installing other fonts.

Leonti

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 1:42 PM, rakshat hooja  wrote:
> Can someone put an Xboard package on opkg.org
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Rakshat
>
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Ed Kapitein  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Leonti,
>>
>> Try installing font-adobe-75dpi
>>
>> <http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/all/font-adobe-75dpi_1.0.0-r0_all.opk>
>> (opkg install font-adobe-75dpi
>>
>> <http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/all/font-adobe-75dpi_1.0.0-r0_all.opk>
>> )
>> it works for me on om2008.12
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Ed
>>
>>
>>
>> Leonti Bielski wrote:
>> > What distribution do you use?
>> >
>> > On SHR I get:
>> > xboard: no fonts match pattern
>> > -*-helvetica-bold-r-normal--*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
>> >
>> > Leonti
>> >
>> > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:07 AM, John Sullivan 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Leonti Bielski  writes:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Hello!
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm looking for chess application to play on my FR.
>> >>> What choices do I have?
>> >>>
>> >>> Right now I have fltk-chess installed, but it is not finger-friendly
>> >>> (board is not resized).
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >> I've been happy with Xboard.
>> >>
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Re: Finger Friendly chess program

[Leonti Bielski]

Ed, thanks a lot!
Changing ARGS helped :)

It might be useful for some:

xboard -fcp gnuchess -size Average

Leonti

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 7:34 PM, drac2000  wrote:
>
>
> Leonti wrote:
>>
>> Hello!
>>
>> I'm looking for chess application to play on my FR.
>> What choices do I have?
>> ...
>>
>
> I use to play it online on shredder site
> http://www.shredderchess.com/play-chess-online.html
> http://www.shredderchess.com/play-chess-online.html
>
> But I will love to have it installed on my FR
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Re: Finger Friendly chess program

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I use it on SHR-Unstable - but I had to install fonts from OM repo and
to chande Xserver file.

Leonti

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Leonardo de Virgilio
 wrote:
>
>
> 2009/3/19 Ed Kapitein 
>>
>> Francesco de Virgilio wrote:
>> > Ed Kapitein ha scritto:
>> > > Hi Leonti,
>> >
>> > > Try installing font-adobe-75dpi
>> > >
>> >
>> > 
>> > > (opkg install font-adobe-75dpi
>> > >
>> >
>> > 
>> > > )
>> > > it works for me on om2008.12
>> >
>> > > Kind regards,
>> > > Ed
>> >
>> > Has anyone tried this on SHR-testing? I get something like this:
>> > http://pastebin.com/m606efc0f
>> >
>> Perhaps you need to install those too?
>>
>> opkg list_installed | egrep
>> "font-adobe-75dpi|encodings|font-util|font-alias"
>
> I have noone of them installed on SHR-testing, but they're not on SHR repos.
>
>>
>> encodings - 1:1.0.2-r0 -
>> font-adobe-75dpi - 1:1.0.0-r0 -
>> font-alias - 1:1.0.1-r0 -
>> font-util - 1:1.0.1-r1 -
>
> I've tried to get them installed from OM repos, but it generates lots of
> errors and, most important,
> a dependency _hell_. So, anyone, has managed to get this workig simply on
> SHR-testing?
>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Ed
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projects.openmoko.org not reliable

[Leonti Bielski]

Hello!
Sometimes I can't open http://projects.openmoko.org/
At the same time http://planet.openmoko.org works every time.

Is it only my provider or there is something wrong with openmoko.org site?

Leonti

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Re: projects.openmoko.org not reliable

[Leonti Bielski]

Just tried it using anonymizer site - it works.
I guess the problem is my provider. Weird though.

Leonti

On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Leonti Bielski  wrote:
> Hello!
> Sometimes I can't open http://projects.openmoko.org/
> At the same time http://planet.openmoko.org works every time.
>
> Is it only my provider or there is something wrong with openmoko.org site?
>
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Re: [SHR,FSO] Serenity theme for illume

[Leonti Bielski]

Maybe you have too old Enlightenment version?

For me on SHR-Unstable wrench and navigation arrows work flawlessly.

Leonti

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 2:23 PM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez
 wrote:
> Thanks :)
> Testing in Om2008.12.
> Joel I like  a lot the theme :)
>
> Just notice, navigation on open apps "<     >" not work, the wrench
> doesn't show but the area is sensible, but on press appears on blank
> with the "close" at the bottom.
> Suggestion, black bakground too :)
>
> 2009/3/30 Michael Sheldon :
>> David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote:
>>> unable to untar the file
>>> r...@om-gta02:~# tar -xzvf serenity-0.2.tar.gz
>>> tar: invalid gzip magic
>>
>>  The archive is fine, it's just the filename that's wrong, it's not
>> really gzipped. If you just do "tar -xf serenity-0.2.tar.gz" it'll
>> unpack without problems.
>>
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Re: [SHR/FSO] - GPS - no fix, ogpsd.pickle question

[Leonti Bielski]

Yeap. I was recently fixed and it works now on SHR-Unstable.
So for those who still have problems - try upgrading frameworkd.

Leonti

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Yorick Moko  wrote:
> have you guys tried this:
> http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/265
>
> ?
>
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 3:45 AM, roby  wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Yorick Moko  wrote:
>>> i also didn't get fixes with shr-testing
>>> it used to work fine
>>> it also still works with openmok-agpsui, but not with tangogps
>>
>> I have noticed that if i
>> -start with agpsui,
>> -Power on,
>> -wait for the fix (without moving the phone)
>> -close agpsui without Power off
>> -start tangogps
>>
>> it works well.. so it seems like tangogps is unable to "stimulate" the
>> gps daemon to start.
>>
>> let me know if it's the same for you
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Re: Customizing the Openmoko Distribution

[Leonti Bielski]

Looks like this is what you are looking for:

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain

Leonti

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Anas Alzouhbi  wrote:
> Hi!
> I read this document
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Application_Development_Crash_Course in
> order to build my first program on my openmoko
> but I didn't understand where is OMDIR, is it in home
> or in root
> and when i run this command: cp build/conf/site.conf local/conf/site.conf
> it can't find build/conf/site.conf
> what must i do in order to build my first program on openmoko
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Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

[Leonti Bielski]

I've bought Freerunner because it's open. And I take it pretty seriously.

If 3G comes only with license, I don't need it.
Freerunner with fixed issues + camera for geotagged photos is an ideal
phone for me.

Leonti


On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra  wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 06:13:36PM +0100, Justyn Butler wrote:
>> 2009/4/2 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra :
>> > On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 05:38:42PM +0100, Justyn Butler wrote:
>> >> He also explains what it would take to put 3G in the phones, saying
>> >> that they'd do it (but the 3G part would be closed) if a customer put
>> >> in a large enough order (ie 50,000 units).
>> >
>> > You've just convinced me that, unless this changes, no OpenMoko with 3G
>> > will get my money as far as I'm concerned :)
>>
>> Why the outrage?
>
> I bought the OpenMoko to get a more Free Software phone, not one that
> gets less and less Free as new devices come up :)
>
> I seriously hope GTA3 fixes some of the most serious problems GTA2 had
> regarding that.
>
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eds-dbus - how to install?

[Leonti Bielski]

Hello!
I'm having troubles installing eds-dbus.
The package itself is just 11 kb and contains only pixmaps.

After reading that pimlico uses Embedded Evolution Data Server so I've
installed it.
Applications work but I don't see any dbus objects corresponding to EDS.

How do I enable dbus for embedded EDS?

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Re: Tichy now hosted on google code + release 1.0.0

[Leonti Bielski]

Hello!
Thanks for your work!
I have a problem - when I start tichy it gives me just black screen :(

I had some of the packages installed from anstrom repository, so it
might be a problem. But as I remember from previous tries - I had
black screen too. Is it treatable?

Tomorrow I will try to install it on clean and fresh SHR distro and
see what it gives me.

Leonti

On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Guillaume Chereau  wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> (Some of you may know me from my previous openmoko address :
> char...@openmoko.org)
>
> Since I don't work for openmoko anymore, and since I had some free
> time in my hands recently, I restarted the tichy project (previously
> hosted on openmoko public git)
> The project is now hosted on google code [0]. From the web site we can
> see some screenshots.
>
> For the history, tichy is the project that was used as the base for
> the paroli project [1], officially supported by openmoko.  Both
> projects are python frameworks to write applets for openmoko phones. I
> decide to restart tichy because in my opinion paroli has forked too
> much, and now both projects are having very different goals.
>
> So why I think people should give tichy a try :
>
> * It can run on debian, SHR, and FSO (even thouhg there is currently a
> problem with the installation on FSO)
> * it is using the Dbus framework for all the phone applets.
> * It is very simple to modify it, almost everything is written in
> python, with some small parts in cython.
> * It can run on the desktop as well.
> * There is a release (1.0.0) [2]
>
> The first release 1.0.0 [2] contains the source package, a debian
> packages, and an ipkg package that can be installed on SHR (should
> also work on FSO, but I see that python-pygame package is currently
> missing from the FSO feeds.)
>
> I will keep working on the project if I think there are interested
> people. I don't know how much time I will allocate to this, so I can
> make no statement about plans or future releases. Of course
> contributions are welcomes.
> I have to admit I didn't test it so much (I personally only use it for
> the chinese learning and dictionary applets), if people experience any
> problems, please let me know and I'll make a bug fix release.
>
> I would also be interested to know if the SHR, debian, or FSO people
> are interested for a collaboration to add tichy in there
> distributions.
>
> Happy programming,
> Guillaume
>
> [0] http://code.google.com/p/tichy
> [1] http://www.paroli-project.org/
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Re: Tichy now hosted on google code + release 1.0.0

[Leonti Bielski]

This is the output:

http://pastebin.com/m312df0f9

Leonti

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 7:11 AM, Guillaume Chereau  wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 7:16 AM, Leonti Bielski  wrote:
>> Hello!
>> Thanks for your work!
>> I have a problem - when I start tichy it gives me just black screen :(
> Can you try to start it form command line :
>   export DISPLAY=:0
>   tichy
> and send me the output.
>
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Re: Tichy now hosted on google code + release 1.0.0

[Leonti Bielski]

Thanks, it's working now!

Leonti

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> seems pretty clear to me:
>
> pygame.error: Failed loading libpng.so.3: libpng.so.3: cannot open shared
> object file: No such file or directory
>
> look for a package providing  libpng.so.3 and install it.
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Re: Watching videos on neo freerunner (openmoko 2008.12) mplayer-glamo

[Leonti Bielski]

Denis, thanks a lot!
I've put your config file on wiki.

Now I can play video from memory card using only 15% of CPU!

Leonti

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Denis Shulyaka  wrote:
> 2009/4/8 Ivan Shirokov :
>> Does it work for FSO? Somehow it hangs up my FR. And there's something like
>> "Your system is too slow" in the console =(
>
> Actually, the mplayer build that is suggested in the wiki uses mp3lib
> for decoding mp3 audio tracks by default. I suggest you adding
> afm=ffmpeg line to ~/.mplayer/config file to force using ffmpeg's
> internal mp3 decoder, or use a build without mp3lib support. It
> appears to be more than 3 times faster on my FR!
> Here is my ~/.mplayer/config file:
>
> vo=xover:glamo,x11
> display=:0
> afm=ffmpeg
> fs=1
> quiet=1
> osdlevel=0
> noautosub=1
> stop-xscreensaver=1
>
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Re: Tichy now hosted on google code + release 1.0.0

[Leonti Bielski]

So after using it for a while I can say that I'm impressed.

When I first saw tichy on FSO distribution it was slow and I thought
nothing would come out of it.
Thanks for proving me wrong!
I like it's distribution independent approach - It has it's own
keyboard and graphical toolkit - must be a lot of work!

The only thing is that while in fullscreen mode you can run nothing
except for tichy.  I didn't find a way to switch between full screen
mode and normal one.

Also, can you add easier case change for the keyboard? Ruight now if I
wan to write uppercase I have to go through all keyboard to get back
to small letters.

But in overall I like it, and I see that it has made a lot of progress.

Leonti

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Leonti Bielski  wrote:
> Thanks, it's working now!
>
> Leonti
>
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:32 PM, arne anka  wrote:
>> seems pretty clear to me:
>>
>> pygame.error: Failed loading libpng.so.3: libpng.so.3: cannot open shared
>> object file: No such file or directory
>>
>> look for a package providing  libpng.so.3 and install it.
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Re: [Debian] How to get elementary?

[Leonti Bielski]

Marcel, you can install e17 using this script:
http://omicron.homeip.net/projects/
It will install e17 to /opt/e17

Then just adjust PKG_CONFIG_PATH , so system would find the libraries
and include files/


Then you get Elementary from svn:

svn co http://svn.enlightenment.org/svn/e/trunk/TMP/st/elementary

When configuring don't forget to put --prefix=/opt/e17 option, so
Elementary would be installed in /opt directory

Hope this helps

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Patrick Beck  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> i' am interested, too. Perhaps anybody has a python-elementary-package
> as well?
>
> with kind regards
>
> Patrick
>
> Am Sonntag, den 05.04.2009, 12:45 +0200 schrieb Marcel:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Is there a elementary package for Debian yet? I've not yet gotten round
>> crosscompiling anything (thanks to python...) and fear adding a selfcompiled
>> elementary (in case I get that to work) to an E17 from the Debian repos,
>> running into conflicts when that actually contains elementary.
>>
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Re: Why enlightenment?

[Leonti Bielski]

Enlightenment is the best choice for Freerunner!

1. Theming - it keeps resources low and alows us to do everything we
want with GUI! Take shelf widgets as an example - you can change their
look, even functions - like digital clock instead of analog - without
changin the main code. I don't say it's not possible with GTK but it
way more complicated.

2. Finger scrolling - it works by default. If I know that app is
written in Elementary - I know that it's finger-friendly. Also -
compare matchbox keyboard and illume one - latter is far more
finger-friendly.

3. Up-to-date. It's under constant development, and getting better by
the day. It's also (Illume and elementary) is well adjusted to phone.

Just my 2 cents.
Leonti

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Re: Debuzzing

[Leonti Bielski]

Are there any limitations on shipment?
As fas as I understand you can rework only batches of phones, so if let's
say someones sent it extra fast second day shipment they still will have to
wait for others that have sent phones by extra slow shipment. Right?

Are there any limitations by which date phones should be delivered? (I'm
aware the date is not known yet but lets say rework is scheduled to 11 of
may - phones should be delivered by 8th of may for example).

Or does it work in other way? Will we have to wait for phones of other users
before the rework?

Leonti
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
wrote:

>
> Am 28.04.2009 um 22:30 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:
>
> > Dear community,
> >
> > it is the philisophy of Golden Delicious Computers to find solutions
> > for important topics that the community has and can't solve alone.
> > Therefore, we (Golden Delicious Computers and TRIsoft) have worked
> > behind the scenes and are close to offer a Buzz rework solution that
> > can in principle serve all Freerunner Owners in the EU harmonized
> > market.
> >
> > 1) We have identified a very good professional SMD rework company in
> > Munich, Germany who are capable and willing to do the rework at low
> > cost and high quality, but only if we deliver batches of collected
> > devices. Since we are experienced in collecting incoming and
> > outgoing shipments, the combination is the solution.
> >
> > 2) Therefore we plan to offer this service to all Openmoko owners
> > within the EU harmonized market / tax union (to avoid re-import/
> > export hassle). Please note that there will be a rework fee. The
> > final price is not yet clear (expected to be less than 30 EUR incl.
> > shipment) because we are in intensive discussions with Openmoko how
> > they can help to reduce this fee for you.
>
> Openmoko has given us now full support and therefore, we can reduce
> the fee dramatically. A bad news is that you have to cover 2 way
> shipment. But another good news is that Openmoko provides a free
> battery as a gift for each shipment.
>
> > 3) Rework will take approx. 1 week and could start immediately,
> > provided we get the promised replacement components in time.
>
> That well need some days so I expect that we can start rework in the
> second week of May.
>
> > 4) If you are interested, please register yourself and your device
> > at the following link. We will then follow up with details about
> > handling, address to send to, time schedule, final pricing etc.
> >
> >   http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Buzz-Rework
>
> This page has now become an order page. Please "purchase" the service.
>
> >
> >
> > So stay tuned,
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Re: Debuzzing

[Leonti Bielski]

Understood.
Just "bought" a rework :)

Another question - you said that phones will be tested, so it got me
thinking - will you have any requirements on distribution installed on
phone?

Leonti

On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
wrote:

>
> Am 30.04.2009 um 16:53 schrieb Leonti Bielski:
>
> Are there any limitations on shipment?
> As fas as I understand you can rework only batches of phones, so if let's
> say someones sent it extra fast second day shipment they still will have to
> wait for others that have sent phones by extra slow shipment. Right?
>
>
> Most probably yes. But it is not that you have to wait for slow phones.
> Incoming devices are collected until a certain batch is completed. That will
> be brought to the reworker. Rework itself does not take much time. But
> testing, repacking, labeling, shipping out again. So I can't estimate yet
> how fast the inbox fills up and how long it takes to move to the outbox.
>
> Are there any limitations by which date phones should be delivered? (I'm
> aware the date is not known yet but lets say rework is scheduled to 11 of
> may - phones should be delivered by 8th of may for example).
>
>
> The main limitation is that you should not send it unneccessarily early -
> because we can't start rework before we have the components in our hands.
> Theoretically, the best fit would be if your phone arrives at the same
> moment as the components...
>
> Or does it work in other way? Will we have to wait for phones of other
> users before the rework?
>
>
> Generally we try to do it as fast as possible, but please expect something
> between 1 and 2 weeks total processing time - time without a FR. This
> includes 2x shipment + some time in the collection queue.
>
>
>
> Leonti
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller <
> h...@computer.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> Am 28.04.2009 um 22:30 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:
>>
>> > Dear community,
>> >
>> > it is the philisophy of Golden Delicious Computers to find solutions
>> > for important topics that the community has and can't solve alone.
>> > Therefore, we (Golden Delicious Computers and TRIsoft) have worked
>> > behind the scenes and are close to offer a Buzz rework solution that
>> > can in principle serve all Freerunner Owners in the EU harmonized
>> > market.
>> >
>> > 1) We have identified a very good professional SMD rework company in
>> > Munich, Germany who are capable and willing to do the rework at low
>> > cost and high quality, but only if we deliver batches of collected
>> > devices. Since we are experienced in collecting incoming and
>> > outgoing shipments, the combination is the solution.
>> >
>> > 2) Therefore we plan to offer this service to all Openmoko owners
>> > within the EU harmonized market / tax union (to avoid re-import/
>> > export hassle). Please note that there will be a rework fee. The
>> > final price is not yet clear (expected to be less than 30 EUR incl.
>> > shipment) because we are in intensive discussions with Openmoko how
>> > they can help to reduce this fee for you.
>>
>> Openmoko has given us now full support and therefore, we can reduce
>> the fee dramatically. A bad news is that you have to cover 2 way
>> shipment. But another good news is that Openmoko provides a free
>> battery as a gift for each shipment.
>>
>> > 3) Rework will take approx. 1 week and could start immediately,
>> > provided we get the promised replacement components in time.
>>
>> That well need some days so I expect that we can start rework in the
>> second week of May.
>>
>> > 4) If you are interested, please register yourself and your device
>> > at the following link. We will then follow up with details about
>> > handling, address to send to, time schedule, final pricing etc.
>> >
>> >   http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Buzz-Rework
>>
>> This page has now become an order page. Please "purchase" the service.
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > So stay tuned,
>> > Nikolaus
>> >
>> > 
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Re: Debuzzing

[Leonti Bielski]

When you "buy" it shipping cost is added to your order. Total cost will be
about 13 euros. It's repairing + sending back.

Plus you'll have to send it to them buy the shipping of your choice.
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Leonti

On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Michel  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> > This page has now become an order page. Please "purchase" the service.
>
> You talk about the fact that "The 2 way shipping cost will be covered by
> the customer." how is this done? Is the 3 euro for sending back the
> device? Or are we charged when the device gets returned?
>
> Kind regards,
> Michel
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Re: [Mokomaze 0.5.0] is released

[Leonti Bielski]

SHR-Unstable - just updated:

File_loader: savegame file not found
File_loader: 14 game levels parsed
Segmentation fault

I'd love to play this game :(

Leonti
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Re: [Mokomaze 0.5.0] is released

[Leonti Bielski]

It works perfectly now!

Man, this game is great! It has it all - graphics, feel (meaning vibration),
physics.

The only problem right now is that I look kinda stupid leaning from side to
side, back and forth playing with my phone :D

Thanks a lot!

Leonti

On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 11:42 PM, ANT  wrote:

>
> >>r...@om-gta02:~# mokomaze
> >>File_loader: savegame file not found
> >>File_loader: 14 game levels parsed
> >>Segmentation fault
>
> I've found out the problem.
> Install libpng3:
>  $ opkg install libpng3
> Now the game must runs normally.
>
> I've just updated installation instructions on opkg.org and homepage.
>
> P.S. I was sure that libsdl-image depends from libpng...
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Re: Debuzzing

[Leonti Bielski]

From:
http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Buzz-Rework
When choosing a parcel service, please choose one that allows you to track
your parcel since we are not responsible for incoming parcels.

Since we already have to sent it with the service with tracking there is no
point in GD confirming it once more - we should be able to see it in our
tracking service.

Leonti


On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Yorick Moko  wrote:

> Will we get a notification when Golden Delicious has recieved our device?
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:45 PM, arne anka  wrote:
> >> The free battery is a courtesy from Openmoko and is included in both
> >> approaches. OM sends a set of spare batteries to the one who organizes
> >> a party. He hands them out to you during that party. But I don't know
> >> if it applies to "I had my phone recently fixed in a fix party in
> >> Germany" or just to future parties.
> >
> >
> > at least there where no batteries in braunschweig may 1-3.
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Re: Do I need the buzz-fix?

[Leonti Bielski]

If you generally stay in the same area and don't experience buzz you
may not need it.

If you move a lot in some conditions you may experience it or may not,
so you should get a fix just in case.

In nutshell - buzz is something every not reworked Freerunner has. You
may experience it or you may not depending on conditions. But your
phone still has it if not reworked.

Leonti

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Warren Baird wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I'm getting a bit confused about whether I need to get the buzz-fix
> operation done.  Since I switched to
> http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/attachment/ticket/2121/gsmhandset-a7.state a
> few days ago I've generally been satisfiied with my audio quality - a couple
> of people I've called have mentioned a small amount of buzz on occasion, but
> that the audio quality was tolerable.  With most other state files I've had
> so much static on the line people on the other end could barely understand
> me.
>
> In http://n2.nabble.com/Debuzzing-tp2736682p3005844.html - Dr. N stated "The
> Buzz rework is only required if  you have the Buzz problem. If your device
> does not, there is no need to rework. My personal estimate is that <5% of
> users have experienced it. "
>
> However, I've seen other statements like arne anka in
> http://n2.nabble.com/Debuzzing-tp2736682p3007627.html state "conclusion:
> everyone having access to the buzz fix should take hold of it. "
>
> Is there some consensus on this?   Should everyone get the buzz-fix?   If
> not - how do I tell if I should get the buzz fix.
>
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Re: Debuzzing

[Leonti Bielski]

I would like to thank all the people involved in buzz fixing too!
You made a very good point a lot of people are forgetting about that
other phones are not without the problems.
We just don't know about most of them because there is no strong
community around them.

With the openmoko community it was possible to found the problem and to fix it.
I was proud to buy this phone when it was released and I'm still proud
to have it!

Leonti

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> While it took a bit longer than I had originally expected, I'm now proud
> owner of a buzz-free Freerunner :D
>
> Congrats to Dr. Schaller for making this happen - and congrats for OM
> for supporting this. Let's all not forget that other phones have
> problems too. It is the open nature of this project that allows us to
> actually fix the shortcomings other people would have to live with.
>
> Regards,
> Andreas Fischer
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Re: [shr] SHR image released

[Leonti Bielski]

Actually I have the same problem with usb networking.
I did not wrote about this before but I always had this problem.
I´m using opensuse 11 and I´ve set usb networking on hot-plug and
normally it works.
When I connect my FR with SHR nothing happens and when I´m trying to
ping my phone I get ´No route to host´ error.
But I didn´t think it´s SHR specific problem until I´ve seen that
someone else has it too.
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Illume home screen subfolders?

[Leonti Bielski]

Hello!
Now, that we have a lot of apps it´s impossible to put them all onto
Home screen in illume.
In FDOM it´s solved by some kind of GTK application - when you click
on GPS icon it shows you a new window in which you can choose an
application you want.
But it doesn´t look native.
Is something like this planned for enlightenment? For example - at the
home screen you see icons like Phone, Config, Internet, Multimedia,
etc. When you click at one of the icons you get second screen like
Home, but only with Phone application (for example) and the button
"Back".
I know it´s just a cosmetic question, but right now it doesnt look
good for me if I see Alarm application close to File Manager.

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How to use links-x11?

[Leonti Bielski]

Hello!
I'm using shr image, and I've installed links-x11 from
http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/

But when I try to run it with "links" I get "Illegal instruction" all the time.
Do I need to install something else?

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Re: Calling interested Glamo OpenGL developers (was: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

[Leonti Bielski]

Personally I don't think we should spend a lot of precious time on glamo.
It's working now reasonably well - Rasterman's illume looks good - it
has effects and it's not to slow.
 The reason why in my opinion openmoko shouldn't spend time on this is
simple - it has a lot more important tasks to do.
This is the same reason I think openmoko shouldn't work on ASU - it's
going to be obsolete, so why waste time and money?
Of course if someone has spare time and is willing to work on this -
it's great, but I think we have to sacrifice some things to speed up
development of future devices.

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What theme is this?

[Leonti Bielski]

Hi!
I found this image on scap.linuxtogo.org
http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/cb247f8d70308d5fec6a479c329e75f3.png
There are also some other themes.
Where I can download it? Who is making it?
Thanks.
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fennec -force-depends doesn't help

[Leonti Bielski]

Hi!
I'm trying to install fennec on my beloved Neo.
I have added angstrom-distribution.org feed and try to do opkg install fennec
It give me gtk eror similar to this one
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/device-owners/2007-November/000759.html
So I tried 'opkg install fennec -force-depends' but it gives me the same error.
Isn't -force-depends supposed to solve this kind of problems?
Thanks.
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Re: Will there be a hardware revision for the buzzing issue?

[Leonti Bielski]

Hello!
Yes, this is hardware issue, and it's fixable. Right now openmoko
folks are testing the solution which fixes this issue.
As far as I understood it will make it to new hardware revision, but
it's going to take a while - they have to test it first to be sure
it's not causing new problems.
But it doesn't mean if you buy your phone now it will have this
problem - it depends a lot on operator, frequency and other stuff -
some people have it, some just reading mailing lists and wondering
what is this "buzzing issue" :)
But in your place I would wait a little to don't have to solder it yourself.

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Re: How to use links-x11?

[Leonti Bielski]

Hi! Thanks for answering.
gdb --args links gives me 'Segmentations fault' :(

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Where is startup log?

[Leonti Bielski]

Hello!
I'm using SHR. I've installed some applications, did opkg upgrade and
now illume doesn't start.
It loads illume (I can see very nice progress bar), but then it return
to console which says something like:
om-gta02 login: 31 om-gta02 tty1ered by Angstrom om-gta02 tty1 SPANK SPANK!***

Anyways, where can I get startup log files to investigate the origin
of the problem?

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[FSO] repeat ringtone

[Leonti Bielski]

Hello!
Maybe I have weird taste, but I don't like the Arkanod ringtone in FSO/SHR ;)
So I've changed it to my custom ogg ringtone. It plays OK, although if
I put a long one (4MB), I have to wait for a couple of vibrations
before it actually starts playing.
But that's ok, I'm not going to use a full ogg song as a ringtone anyway.
My problem is I don't know is it possible to make the ringtone repeat?
Right now if I have a short ringtone it plays only one time and then I
only hear vibrating.

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Re: [FSO] repeat ringtone

[Leonti Bielski]

Just did:
http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/247

Leonti

On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Am Wednesday 19 November 2008 20:52:37 schrieb Leonti Bielski:
>> Hello!
>> Maybe I have weird taste, but I don't like the Arkanod ringtone in FSO/SHR
>> ;) So I've changed it to my custom ogg ringtone. It plays OK, although if I
>> put a long one (4MB), I have to wait for a couple of vibrations
>> before it actually starts playing.
>> But that's ok, I'm not going to use a full ogg song as a ringtone anyway.
>> My problem is I don't know is it possible to make the ringtone repeat?
>> Right now if I have a short ringtone it plays only one time and then I
>> only hear vibrating.
>
> Please open a ticket, I need to implement that.
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Is there any kind of network manager?

[Leonti Bielski]

Hi!
As in the subject - is there any connection manager available for
Freerunner to switch and manage between WiFi, GPRS and usb?
I've seen connection manager in Illume, but it seems to be empty. What
is left to implement to get it working?
Are there any alternatives?
It's possible to connect to WiFi with command line or mofi, to GPRS
with simple script, but maybe there is something better already?
Are there any particular plans for network management?

Leonti

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Re: I realy like them

[Leonti Bielski]

Those are awesome!
I'm glad OM users have healthy sense of humor :)

Leonti

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> drac2000 wrote:
>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Jokes http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Jokes :-p
>
> That's awesome.
>
> I pledge 10,000 imaginary internet lulz to the first person to come up
> with a *funny* joke where openmoko/the freerunner isn't the butt of the
> joke.. :)
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Re: Survey about the Touchscreen

[Leonti Bielski]

Big resolution means better image quality.
We can run qvga apps on our vga screen, don't we? But how can we run
vga apps on qvga screen?
VGA screen is a step forward, QVGA is a step backward. For me it's clear.

Leonti

On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 12:08 AM, Thorben Krueger
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> sorry for being imprecise. I was referring to the amazing resolution
> considering the size of the display. The freerunner got 300 dpi IIRC.
> For comparison, the iphone only seems to have 160.
>
> I usually demo the crispness (if you will) of my neo's screen using
> top on the terminal at the smallest readable fontsize to great effect
> :)
>
> 2008/11/21 Anton Persson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> You mean, the only thing that truly blows them away is the resolution
>> of the screen... Which you can have with any type of modern LCD panel,
>> can you not?
>>
>>  /Anton
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Thorben Krueger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> +1 indeed, the screen is about the only thing that truly blows
>>> people's minds away atm...
>>>
>>> 2008/11/21 Ken Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>> > Denis Galvao wrote:
>>> >>>On 21/11/2008, at 13:20, Ken Young wrote:
>>>  Really, we don't need a hi res screen on a day by day gadget
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I could not possibly disagree more strongly.
>>> >>
>>> >>So, give me a reason where you will need that.
>>> >
>>> > As long as we have at least a VGA resolution screen, it is
>>> > relatively easy for us to port linux desktop applications to
>>> > the Openmoko phones.   Once we drop down to HVGA, or (heaven
>>> > forbid!) QVGA, there will need to be extensive UI redesign
>>> > to get most apps. from the desktop world to run on an OM phone,
>>> > especially when a soft keyboard is needed.   So reducing the
>>> > resolution will greatly reduce the code base we can leverage.
>>> > In addition, I don't think you can ever had too many pixels on
>>> > a machine you intend to run a web browser on.   Right now,
>>> > when I show someone my Freerunner, the only thing that impresses
>>> > them is the display.   It would be a shame if OM dropped the
>>> > one part of its hardware that is actually superior to what
>>> > is found on other smartphones.
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Re: Survey about the Touchscreen

[Leonti Bielski]

Why do we need capacitive display?
We still are not going to solve hanging up during the call - because
capacitive screen does it too - the only way to avoid that is by doing
it in software.
Someone said - it will be a good motivation to make programs more
finger-friendly. What I like about Freerunner is that I can find some
program, compile it and use it straight on Freerunner. With the
capacitive screen we can forget about most gtk, fltk apps, just
because they need stylus to be used. Do we really want to have a
system that is based on linux, but looks like every other phone
platform?
Now imagine we have calc sheet application on the phone. Whis the
resolution of FR we can see really a lot, and what is important we can
manipulate cells in it. Can you do it with your finger? (with the
capacitive touchscreen you can't even use your fingernail).
What I mean is that  the ability to use other objects to manipulate
the screen is an advantage, not a disadvantage.

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Windows on openmoko?

[Leonti Bielski]

Hi!
I've just seen this screenshote:
http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/2c3159f3e1a2622fd56fe29d2f222d9c.png
Is it a joke or what?

Leonti

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Problems with making local repository

[Leonti Bielski]

Hello!
I use OE environment and I would like to use ipk files it produces to
install on my FR using opkg.
My problem is that OE doesn't include all of the compiled packages to
Packages,gz.
So after reading some ipkg instructions I run:
ipkg-make-index dir_with_ipks
But it gives me errot like:
tar: *control: Not found in archive
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
tar: Pattern matching characters used in file names. Please,
tar: use --wildcards to enable pattern matching, or --no-wildcards to
tar: suppress this warning.

Does anyone know how to solve this?

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Re: Problems with making local repository

[Leonti Bielski]

I found the solution - you just have to change line nr. 155 in file
ipkg.py from ipkg-utils to:
control = os.popen("ar p "+fn+" control.tar.gz | tar
xfzO - --wildcards '*control'","r")
I think it was a problem with tar version - ipkg-utils are from year 2005.

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Re: Where can I get the last reasonably stable SHR-Version?

[Leonti Bielski]

Where did you find any milestone-release?
http://shr.bearstech.com/trac/ clear says:
SHR has not been released yet. There are only preview images so far.

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Re: Announce: omnewrotate 0.5.0

[Leonti Bielski]

I like it. It works great.
What is the best way to start it during login?

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Re: Where is startup log?

[Leonti Bielski]

It's actually hard to believe no one reading this list knows where I
can find boot log.

The same which is displayed on the screen during startup. Anyone?

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Re: Where is startup log?

[Leonti Bielski]

Thanks! Did not know about logread - that was what I needed.

Leonti

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Vikas Saurabh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't know exactly where the startup logs are...dmesg and logread
> are helpful at times.
>
> But, what you observed happened to me once with Om2008.8 when I
> changed my feed to testing and upgraded. It gave lots of warning about
> gtk+ trying to overwrite files installed using gtk-fastscaling+ and
> after everything it stuck to where you are.
>
> Takeaway: don't mix feeds (unless of course you exactly know which
> packages you should blah blah...for users like me, don't mix the feeds
> work beautifully)
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Leonti Bielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hello!
>> I'm using SHR. I've installed some applications, did opkg upgrade and
>> now illume doesn't start.
>> It loads illume (I can see very nice progress bar), but then it return
>> to console which says something like:
>> om-gta02 login: 31 om-gta02 tty1ered by Angstrom om-gta02 tty1 SPANK 
>> SPANK!***
>>
>> Anyways, where can I get startup log files to investigate the origin
>> of the problem?
>>
>> Thanks. Leonti
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Re: Announce: omnewrotate 0.5.0

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Thanks! It works perfectly - now I can rotate my screen just by
rotating my phone. Neat :)

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Re: Announce: omnewrotate 0.5.0

[Leonti Bielski]

It might be a problem with accelerometers.
Try this:
http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1493922|a1493922
If it affecting Doom it might also affect rotate program. I put those
two line in .profile and I don't have any problems.

Leonti

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> Leonti Bielski wrote:
>> I like it. It works great.
>
> I have some strange behaviour with this application. Sometimes it just
> freeze. Not the phone, but it suddenly stops rotating at point it
> stopped. Usually not normal one.
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> I use FDOM 20081023.
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Re: FSO M4 - nice GSM sound

[Leonti Bielski]

I didn't do this for my SHR and I have no echo. But a person I'm
talking to hear an echo.
Does this fix my echo (which I don't have anyway) or an echo for another person?

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Re: FSO M4 - nice GSM sound

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I tried it and it's working great!
Thanks.

Leonti

On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 2:35 PM, Carl Lobo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> the echo of the other person.
>
> On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 7:00 PM, Leonti Bielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I didn't do this for my SHR and I have no echo. But a person I'm
>> talking to hear an echo.
>> Does this fix my echo (which I don't have anyway) or an echo for another 
>> person?
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Re: Audio format

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I would recommend ogg too.
I'm was using ogg file as my ringtone without any problems.
Not sure about your distribution...

Leonti

On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Pander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> What is the best audio format for offering ringtones, notifications,
> etc.? I'd prefer .ogg because of its easy license and small file size.
> The .wav and .mp3 I'd shun for these reasons. Is this correct and is the
> phone capable of using .ogg as ringtones and notifications in both the
> OM part and the Qt part.
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mplayer with glamo and audio - very slow

[Leonti Bielski]

Hello!

I'm trying to play some video preencoded for my phone with:
mencoder file_to_encode.avi -ovc lavc -lavcopts
vcodec=mpeg4:vhq:vbitrate=300 \ -vf
scale=320:240,eq2=1.2:0.5:-0.25,rotate=2 -oac mp3lame -lameopts
br=64:cbr \ -o
file_for_openmoko

To watch it I run:
mplayer -vo glamo -zoom -x 480 -y 640 your_file.avi

It is played very slow and I get message from mplayer - "your system
is very slow" or something like that.
Than I tried it with -nosound option - and I don't get that message
and the fps seem acceptable.
I've always though video was an issue, but this shows me that audio
can significantly slow down the playback.

Should I encode my video differently?
Or something else is wrong?

Leonti

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Re: andy-tracking kernel?

[Leonti Bielski]

You can download it from:
http://people.openmoko.org/andy/
It's uImage-moredrivers*

As I get it it uses 2.6.28 kernel. The main reason to use it is that a
lot of suspend/resume issues have been resolved "out of the box" in
this kernel.
I tried it and it seems working ok, although I didn't test it much.

I also would like to understand what is left to be done in this kernel
to get it ready to distribution use.

Leonti

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Re: mplayer with glamo and audio - very slow

[Leonti Bielski]

I tried it with andy-tracking kernel and with mplayer -vo glamo
my_file.avi it worked well.

But when I tried to resize it with -zoom -x 480 -y 620 it started to
play slow again.
Is there any way to make scaling in glamo chip?

My conclusion that the sound problem lies in kernel - I switched back
to 2.6.24 and I can't play video with sound again.

Leonti

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Pierre Lascar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Le mercredi 03 décembre 2008 à 13:51 +, Antony King a écrit :
>> I seem to recall there was an issue a while back with pulseaudio transcoding
>> the audio on the fly between identical formats and gobbling CPU in the
>> process. Could that be a possibility here ?
>>
>
> I used -vo oss with alsa-oss on 2008.9, so there should be no pulseaudio
> around.
>
> Pierre.
>
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Why echo solution is not in framework?

[Leonti Bielski]

Hello!
A lot of FSO, SHR users use echo solution from:
http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1486414|a1518726
to get rid of echo.
It works very well. So why it is still not in framework git?
Does it have some drawbacks which can't allow fso guys to include it
in frameworkd?

Leonti

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Re: mplayer with glamo and audio - very slow

[Leonti Bielski]

After passing right (less demanding) parameters for encoding and
playing it's working now.
I edited wiki-page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Video_Player
regarding glamo acceleration for future reference.

Although very high CPU consumption from Mplayer seems very strange.
I'm sure glamo can do better (according to other user reports) than 15
fps with sound.

Leonti

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Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips!

[Leonti Bielski]

Hello and welcome to OM community :)

1.) This is so-called buzzing issue. It's hardware related and in a
week or so a paper explaining how to do a fix will be available.
You can read about it from those links:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Hardware_Issues
http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td675090|a675090

2.) From what you've written it seems like you don't suspend your
phone. What image do you use? Anyways, you have to enable autosuspend
- so phone will go to sleep while not being used and wake up only on
certain events - call/message/cable connected/headset connected.
Without suspend phone can work only for about 8 hours or a little
more. With suspend my phone can be waiting for calls for a couple of
days without any problems. Battery life is for a long time not a
problem anymore.
Tips: try to manually suspend your phone using power button
(asu/fso/shr/debian).
On QtExtended if I recall correctly autosuspend is disabled by default
so you have to enable it to get the most of your battery life :)

Leonti

On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 7:49 PM, Dave Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello folks,
>
> Just a few questions really to kick start me being on this list. :-)
>
> I received my FreeRunner about a week or so ago and have just about got
> around to playing with it a bit more and actually using it. It's running
> FDOM based on recommendations, and picked up my Orange SIM and contacts
> without difficulty.
>
> A few issues I have had though:
>
> 1) Recipients of phone calls consistently seem to report a buzz /
> crackling during calls made from the FreeRunner. Apparently the buzz is
> particularly prevelant when I stop speaking, whilst I'm speaking the
> line seems to be clear enough - anyone suffered a similar issue and know
> / suspect it's cause?
>
> 2) Battery Life. I was warned by people before getting the phone that
> battery life wasn't great as of yet, and as I understand from what I
> have it is a fairly high priority. However, what do you folks do to
> maximise life out of your battery?
> The reason I ask is that with everything (bar GSM) turned off, and the
> phone mostly locked / on standby (30 second timeout for standby and
> blank screen are set up at the moment) I am struggling to get even 12
> hours life out of it.
> To give an example from today, where I didn't get chance to glance at
> the phone whilst at work, it went from being fully charged at 08:00 (I
> took it off charge from the Desktop at that point) to being powered down
> and without the juice to startup at 16:30.
> So, what do you all do to get the most out of it, and what sort of life
> do you get?
>
> Whilst I can live with the battery as a work in progress, the
> crackliness would be interesting to find out if it's just my unit
> suffering, as it does make using it as my primary phone a little difficult!
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Dave
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Re: Enjoy!

[Leonti Bielski]

I think I've seen it on scat.linuxtogo.org some time ago. It means
someone run it succesfully on FR.
Sorry, don't know any details.

Leonti

On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 7:24 PM, Martino  wrote:
> Hi!
> Some one is working around this http://profusion.mobi/node/10  ??
>
> Is possible to have a ipkg on opkg.org!! I find it great.. And for now
> I don't found nothing similar..
>
> Thanks
>
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Re: Enjoy!

[Leonti Bielski]

Sorry, scap.linuxtogo.org of course.

Leonti

On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Leonti Bielski  wrote:
> I think I've seen it on scat.linuxtogo.org some time ago. It means
> someone run it succesfully on FR.
> Sorry, don't know any details.
>
> Leonti
>
> On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 7:24 PM, Martino  wrote:
>> Hi!
>> Some one is working around this http://profusion.mobi/node/10  ??
>>
>> Is possible to have a ipkg on opkg.org!! I find it great.. And for now
>> I don't found nothing similar..
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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Stage of GTA03 development?

[Leonti Bielski]

Hello!
As proud Freerunner owner I'm interested in how the development of GTA03 goes.
I'm not going to buy it - there is still a lot of fun with FR, but it
would be interesting to know something about next open phone.
Wiki page is outdated and there is no updates on ML.
Does someone know how everything is going with gta03?
1. What case design is chosen?
2. What gsm chip?
3. How will it be called?
4. When is release date (+/- 3 month :)) ?
5. Price estimate.

Leonti

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Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

[Leonti Bielski]

I don't think closing such information (which is not any dangerous
inside info) would be a good policy for a company which main goal is
creating an OPEN phone ;)
Some of the questions like availability and price are not important to
me because I'm not going to buy it anyway, but I'm interested in
specifications :D

Leonti

On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 10:03 PM, "Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster"
 wrote:
> Leonti Bielski schrieb:
>> Hello!
>> As proud Freerunner owner I'm interested in how the development of GTA03 
>> goes.
>> I'm not going to buy it - there is still a lot of fun with FR, but it
>> would be interesting to know something about next open phone.
>> Wiki page is outdated and there is no updates on ML.
>> Does someone know how everything is going with gta03?
>> 1. What case design is chosen?
>> 2. What gsm chip?
>> 3. How will it be called?
>> 4. When is release date (+/- 3 month :)) ?
>> 5. Price estimate.
>>
>> Leonti
>>
> If i were openmoko (some person inside who knows about it), i would not
> answer this questtion(s), because some people would react like "omg, you
> are rippig us off. I still can't use my fr as a daily phone. the
> optimization team was disbanded, because you guys are focusing on the
> next gen device, while the fr still lacks a lot of features/stability/etc.."
> just my opinion
>
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Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

[Leonti Bielski]

Nikolaus, I don't get what's wrong with my questions?

1. About the case design - it  was a poll on ML about different types
of case - with keypad, without, slider, etc. So I think it make sense
to ask what was finally chosen.

2. GSM chip:
Look in here how many chips were considered:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoForesight
It makes sense to ask which one was chosen, doesn't it?

3. GTA03 is internal codename, like GTA01 and GTA02, but they are
called Neo1973 and Neo Freerunner. I seriously doubt GTA03 will go on
sale with GTA03 name.

4 and 5, don't want even bother to comment this.

Leonti

>> Hello!
>> As proud Freerunner owner I'm interested in how the development of
>> GTA03 goes.
>> I'm not going to buy it - there is still a lot of fun with FR, but it
>> would be interesting to know something about next open phone.
>> Wiki page is outdated and there is no updates on ML.
>> Does someone know how everything is going with gta03?
>> 1. What case design is chosen?
>
> A good one.
>
>> 2. What gsm chip?
>
> The best one!
>
>> 3. How will it be called?
>
> GTA03!
>
>> 4. When is release date (+/- 3 month :)) ?
>
> 12:00 (I don't know on which day)
>
>> 5. Price estimate.
>
> Comparable to others.
>
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Text editing - esay cursor moving idea

[Leonti Bielski]

Hello!
Today I went to youtube to listen some Neil Young songs and I found
this video on the front page:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qpxf28ja67Q&feature=dir

What do you think? Can it be useful? Is it worth implementing into illume?

Leonti

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