Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04-Custom: EAGLE schematics and board file blueprint for developing expansion/adapter boards
Coming back to the original message, is it possible for an averaged-skilled person to carry out the customisation of the GTA04 board to change the connector? Also, would it be feasible to make a GTA04 module that could be connected to external screens while powered, so that you could switch from tablet to phone? I just ask out of curiosity, but it would be fun to connect your phone to a large display in your car for easier sat nav, then take it back as a phone. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to bring forward the community?
well, I think you just have to look at the capabilities of IMAP5 to see that the next generations of phone/tablet will have 3D support, both for display and webcam (I think IMAP5 supports 2 webcam ports). So IMHO the big manufacturers are now focusing on including 3D instead of designing new concepts. About the choice of keyboard, from what I read on this thread I think that one of the main issue is the feedback. Touch keyboard give you a feedback via the feeling of the fingertips, so you don't need to focus your attention to it. Maybe using an audible 'clic' would be an alternative for touch screen keypads? or using an electric discharge to trigger the user's nerves :) (though this may lower the battery life...) Lionel On 1 March 2012 12:28, Wolfgang Spraul wolfg...@sharism.cc wrote: So what to use? Nothing to use... We should look for what comes after phones and tablets. What's next? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Dr Lionel Broche Aberdeen Biomedical Imaging Centre University of Aberdeen tel : +44 1224 553 206 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to bring forward the community?
vibration is a pretty good idea though, have you tried it arne? On 3 March 2012 21:20, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: sounds is a no-go. the only sound i tolerate is the one coming out of the earpiece/headset when making/recieving a call or listening to music. --- On Sat, 3/3/12, Lionel Broche lionel.bro...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe using an audible 'clic' would be an alternative for touch screen keypads? or using an electric discharge to trigger the user's nerves :) (though this may lower the battery life...) Ah so you never tried fatfingershell :) Rafa PS. BTW, it uses four different sounds, so every key sounds different than its neighbors. And you have (if you want) a smooth vibration feedback as well. __**_ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/**mailman/listinfo/communityhttp://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- -- __**_ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/**mailman/listinfo/communityhttp://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Dr Lionel Broche Aberdeen Biomedical Imaging Centre University of Aberdeen tel : +44 1224 553 206 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04-Custom: EAGLE schematics and board file blueprint for developing expansion/adapter boards
true, that would be easier. But it also need more electronics. On 3 March 2012 19:25, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote: On Saturday 03 March 2012 10:00:27 Lionel Broche wrote: Coming back to the original message, is it possible for an averaged-skilled person to carry out the customisation of the GTA04 board to change the connector? Also, would it be feasible to make a GTA04 module that could be connected to external screens while powered, so that you could switch from tablet to phone? I just ask out of curiosity, but it would be fun to connect your phone to a large display in your car for easier sat nav, then take it back as a phone. Why not use a DisplayLink USB display like the touchscreens at [1]? You might even find a daylight readable one for the car. Not sure if GTA04 can charge while in host mode though - the docs suggest not but don't say explicitly. [1] https://newit.co.uk/shop/products.php?cat=16 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Gta04-owner] Keyboard for GTA04
just adding my two pence: it may not satisfy every users, but has any company ever made a forearm-attached casing? some phone that you could clip on your left forearm, so that the keyboard and the screeen would be steady while your right arm writes down. Plus, there would be no danger of stealing. Lionel On 15 March 2012 23:10, EdorFaus edorf...@xepher.net wrote: On 03/16/2012 12:00 AM, EdorFaus wrote: clip it onto the side with the USB port use a standard USB keyboard module Aw, man... I just got this odd image in my head of a full-size standard qwerty keyboard with an angled docking port on the top - kinda like the iPod docks in some stereo systems - meant for the GTA0x... Not really practical for carrying around in any way, but at least you can avoid cables when using it at home... unless you want to charge it or connect it to the LAN or something at the same time of course. :P __**_ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/**mailman/listinfo/communityhttp://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Re: [Gta04-owner] Keyboard for GTA04
ok, i will see what I can do once I have the phone and my reprap is working :) On 17 March 2012 18:03, Adam Bogacki adam.boga...@clear.net.nz wrote: Not that I know of, but I would volunteer to test it. :-) Adam adam.boga...@clear.net.nz On -9/01/37 07:59, Lionel Broche wrote: just adding my two pence: it may not satisfy every users, but has any company ever made a forearm-attached casing? some phone that you could clip on your left forearm, so that the keyboard and the screeen would be steady while your right arm writes down. Plus, there would be no danger of stealing. Lionel On 15 March 2012 23:10, EdorFaus edorf...@xepher.net wrote: On 03/16/2012 12:00 AM, EdorFaus wrote: clip it onto the side with the USB port use a standard USB keyboard module Aw, man... I just got this odd image in my head of a full-size standard qwerty keyboard with an angled docking port on the top - kinda like the iPod docks in some stereo systems - meant for the GTA0x... Not really practical for carrying around in any way, but at least you can avoid cables when using it at home... unless you want to charge it or connect it to the LAN or something at the same time of course. :P ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA04_This is my Fantasy
I am not a specialist and I am not sure to understand what you mean by 'boot linux from any desktop', but I have been experimenting remote connections lately so my results may interest you. The idea of remote connection is that you boot your device normally (the client), and access a remote computer (the host) once the operating system is running on the client. Usually you only need a very light operating system so the client machine does not need to be powerful. I have been using a letux 400 (very small device, 2Gb Flash drive, rather slow) as a client to connect to my home computer. Since a letux is (really) not powerful, I dropped the idea of using a full remote desktop but this is likely to be possible on the GTA04 (see Vino, Remmina and others for remote desktop applications). Instead of that, I opened some X windows directly via ssh (use the -X option when you connect with ssh, there is a bit of fidling around with keys and host authoring). This technique allows you to control the GUI of a host from a light remote client. In final I could run some large applications (gimp, blender...) on my letux and to use them just as if I was using my home computer. Only the GUI of the application selected appeared on the screen. I am not sure if that is what you want to do. I can give more details if you need. Lionel On 21 April 2012 00:37, Travis Bachelder tbachel...@shively.com wrote: Just so everyone knows: I am not a programmer (just a dreamer), with no grasp on reality in regards to what is feasible or not. I'll leave it to you (the community) to decide. I was thinking it would be cool if my imaginary cell phone (I also dream of one day owning one) had the capabilities to boot linux from any desktop, via USB, provided it's support. This would grant me access to large programs such as CAD software, Inventor/AutoCAD, music/movies/photos, from where ever a desktop computer was available (BIOS Mooch). I would imagine the phones would need to be outfitted with a small solid state hard drive (at least 60 gb), and it would be nice if it had the ability to share media files (music) between QTmoko and Ubuntu (maybe?). Has anyone ever fantasized about this? Is it feasible? or Possible? Thanks, Travis Bachelder This email was sent by Howell Laboratories, Inc. or Shively Labs. It may contain information that is confidential or privileged. If you suspect you were not intended to receive it, please delete it without copying or forwarding it, and notify the sender by reply email or by calling 207-647-3327. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Gta04-owner] [ANN] GTA04 Keyboard prototype
Hello, I have been thinking for a while to try a forearm-mounting casing for the openmoko. A casing that you would clip on the left (or right) forearm, that would be thin enough to fit under the sleeves or even covered with a piece of nice fabric to look like a cloth. This keyboard would probably fit well on the forearm together with the screen and it would make the whole thing easier to use. I am also thinking to place the antenna on the outside of the arm, above a piece of aluminum foil in order to reflect the radiated power and to protect the user from RF field. At the moment I don't have the GTA04, but I can make some rough drawings from the CAD files (I will need to download them). Would there be other people interested in this new way of carring your phone? I previously had some positive comments on the forum about this, so I think we could probably start a small group if there is enough interest. About the announcement itself, I think it is always good to show new ideas at early stages. This makes it possible for the community to orient the development of the project if they see better/different ways to use it. It also shows the level of interest. Lionel On 3 May 2012 09:41, Nikita V. Youshchenko yo...@debian.org wrote: Some more general thought: I am not sure how we should handle such ideas and how this community sees its role. Should we announce/publish immediately as soon as we have a prototype? And ask the community for comments and participation in improving it? Or should we silently finish some design and work with beta testers not on this list... From external point of view, having more information about what is going on is definitly better. However, it is you who is actually doing things, it's up to you to decide if to show your eraly prototypes and collect feedback or not. Nikita ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Gta04-owner] [ANN] GTA04 Keyboard prototype
:) nice, thanks! ok, I'll make something serious then, see if this attracts the community. I'llstart another topic once I have the first draft ready. Lionel On 7 May 2012 13:17, joa...@verona.se wrote: Lionel Broche lionel.bro...@gmail.com writes: Hello, I have been thinking for a while to try a forearm-mounting casing for the openmoko. A casing that you would clip on the left (or right) forearm, that would be thin enough to fit under the sleeves or even covered with a piece of nice fabric to look like a cloth. This keyboard would probably fit well on the forearm together with the screen and it would make the whole thing easier to use. I am also thinking to place the antenna on the outside of the arm, above a piece of aluminum foil in order to reflect the radiated power and to protect the user from RF field. At the moment I don't have the GTA04, but I can make some rough drawings from the CAD files (I will need to download them). Would there be other people interested in this new way of carring your phone? I previously had some positive comments on the forum about this, so I think we could probably start a small group if there is enough interest. I'm also very interested in making a wearable out of the gta04, and I'd buy your design to sponsor its development if it were available. About the announcement itself, I think it is always good to show new ideas at early stages. This makes it possible for the community to orient the development of the project if they see better/different ways to use it. It also shows the level of interest. Lionel On 3 May 2012 09:41, Nikita V. Youshchenko yo...@debian.org wrote: Some more general thought: I am not sure how we should handle such ideas and how this community sees its role. Should we announce/publish immediately as soon as we have a prototype? And ask the community for comments and participation in improving it? Or should we silently finish some design and work with beta testers not on this list... From external point of view, having more information about what is going on is definitly better. However, it is you who is actually doing things, it's up to you to decide if to show your eraly prototypes and collect feedback or not. Nikita ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Joakim Verona ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Gta04-owner] [ANN] GTA04 Keyboard prototype
A couple of quick questions about the keyboard prototype: - is this a flexible PCB? Or could it be printed on a flexible substrate so that surface can be bent? - what are the dimensions of the PCB? how thick should the whole keyboard be with the buttons included? Lionel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Status of the OpenPhoenux/GTA04 project
Great news, well done ! Lionel On 5 September 2012 18:55, Boudewijn wankelwan...@yahoo.com wrote: ** On Tuesday 04 September 2012 12:36:53 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: see: http://lists.goldelico.com/pipermail/community/2012-September/91.html (Quality is very good - better than we have ever seen before! ...) Congratulations! Here is a picture that shows how we feel now: I share the feeling! Boudewijn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] main menu screen proposal
Hi, - to define in a proper file the texts beneath the icons instead of drawing them in the icons themselves, it's useful if we want translations; The 140x110 look good, but IMHO it would look even better and more finger-friendly if the icons were square or circular. I think it could be a good option to extend the icon to 130x130 and leave a zone at the bottom 30 lines to draw the text on top. Lionle ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
