Re: [Shr-User] New poll about OS
2010/2/22, Michael Moroni : > Hi you all, > I decided to create a new poll about the OS on open phones (Neo1973, Neo > Freerunner, HTC-dream, ...) in order to update the last poll. > Here you have the link of the new poll: http://doodle.com/mkuv2uhn66e83mxw > Here you have the link of the last poll: http://doodle.com/sd2c8d8snr23eeqq > The poll will be closed monday 8 march 2010, 07:00 UTC+01:00 > Have a nice day/Have a good night > - Michael > Hi! Thanks you for your efforts! Unfortunately I was already planning a more elaborate survey which I started discussing on the documentation mailing list. [1] Now that effort was vain. So, for the next survey (if there will be one): please notify the community if you are planning to do one, so we can discuss it first. [1] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.documentation/cutoff=128 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] New poll about OS
> The poll will be closed monday 8 march 2010, 07:00 UTC+01:00 This date has passed. What about the results? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Leaving the Openmoko community, new wiki-admin needed
Dear Openmoko community! I have previously worked as the administrator of the Openmoko Wiki for the last year. Unfortunately I have to announce that I will stop my involvement in the Openmoko community and so a new admin is needed. The reason for leaving is quite simple: I broke my FreeRunner last weekend at a party. Although I enjoyed my time with it I won't get another one. (Instead I'm getting an N900 and hoping for MeeGo or Debian + FSO to provide a free OS for this device soon) As I am leaving a new admin is needed in the wiki. The main task for such an admin would be deleting pages which are either outdated or spam. More information on the process of deleting pages can be found here:[1]. If you are willing to assist the community by taking over this task please contact a wiki sysop and request more rights on the wiki so you can delete pages. I think Joachim Steiger (Roh) is the one to contact for this purpose. I will continue the task of deleting unwanted pages until someone else will get admin rights - but not longer than one month. I wish you all the best for the future. It has been great to be a part of this project! OT: As my involvement in the Openmoko project is over I'm searching for new challenges. I'm planning to take a break for several month now, but afterwards I might consider writing some documentation again for some project related to N900. So if you're working on a related project and need assisance with documentation just contact me and maybe I'll join. [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_Wiki_Editing_Guidelines#Deleting_pages ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Leaving the Openmoko community, new wiki-admin needed
2010/8/31, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller : > Hi Marco, > thanks for your active work for the Wiki! > > Am 31.08.2010 um 15:59 schrieb Marko Knöbl: > >> Dear Openmoko community! >> >> I have previously worked as the administrator of the Openmoko Wiki for the >> last >> year. Unfortunately I have to announce that I will stop my involvement in >> the >> Openmoko community and so a new admin is needed. The reason for leaving is >> quite simple: I broke my FreeRunner last weekend at a party. Although I > > that is sad to hear. What has been brolen? Almost everything on a FR can > be repaired... > >> enjoyed my time with it I won't get another one. (Instead I'm getting an >> N900 >> and hoping for MeeGo or Debian + FSO to provide a free OS for this device >> soon) > > Not willing to wait a little until you get N900 power into your Freerunner? > > Nikolaus > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > I don't know exactly what's broken - I just can't register to the network anymore. Probably it's just the antenna. However I think it wouldn't pay off to get it repaired. And as far as I know the official MeeGo-releases for the N900 will be completely open source, so it will be almost as open as the Openmoko devices. And I can't wait for the next version of the FreeRunner because it was my only phone and I need a working one again. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Leaving the Openmoko community, new wiki-admin needed
2010/8/31, Dr. Michael Lauer : > Hi Marko, > >> I have previously worked as the administrator of the Openmoko Wiki for the >> last >> year. Unfortunately I have to announce that I will stop my involvement in >> the >> Openmoko community and so a new admin is needed. > > Thanks for all the work you did! > >> The reason for leaving is >> quite simple: I broke my FreeRunner last weekend at a party. Although I >> enjoyed my time with it I won't get another one. (Instead I'm getting an >> N900 >> and hoping for MeeGo or Debian + FSO to provide a free OS for this device >> soon) > > Excellent. Fortunately Nokia provided me with a development device, > so I'm in possession of an N900 since monday. Lets see whether we can pull > something off. > > In any case, if you have some spare time, I'd appreciate taking a look at > the > FSO wiki, which covers the feasibility of all kinds of anti-vendor-ports as > well. > It's great to hear that Nokia provided you with a device! I didn't epect that from the creators of oFono! I'll consider contributing to the FSO-wiki - looks like that would be much less work than working on the Openmoko wiki. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: iphone-haptic
2008/3/2, Ortwin Regel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I have doubts about the usefulness of vibrator feedback. It can't help > you find a button or tell you whether you pressed the right one. > Actually it CAN help you find a button. Please read the section "Fingertip-Over-Edge Event" in the article. I think it's some kind of sliding-keyboard which enters the character on which you release your finger. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The GTAs
2008/7/25 Corey Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Ok. Now that the FreeRunner is out, I'd like to discuss the GTA03 and > 04. I've been listening to this list for quite some time, and have > jotted down a few things about the upcoming models. > > Please make sure I have all of this correct. And if its correct, is it > all on the Wiki? I can't find mention. thank you. ^-^ > > GTA03 > Removed Glamo > 3.5mm audio jack(maybe with some of Joerg's Ideas about stereo line-in) > based on existing 2442 arm v4 samsung soc > camera > different case design than 1973/freerunner > vga screen > different battery > different GSM modem. (I think 2G/EGDE) > USB2.0-OTG > > > GTA04 > USB2.0 will be here at the earliest > different GSM chip than FreeRunner > I heard something about the samsung 6400 soc. more powerful 2d > acceleration than Glamo. > 3D? > > oh, and GTA03 != Dash Express, right? a little confusion on that... > thanks again > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openmoko GTA04 "will likely have 3G support" as well. Is that correct? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Main page change notification
2008/8/1 Justin Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I dont mind the language on top for this page, but if we can get rid > of "Main Page" at the top, that'd be GREAT. Right now, it's taking up > a lot of real estate and I don't think we really need the page name > for this page. > > The changes look good. I like how the "intro" is split up, so for > people who care most about the license stuff, like developers, when > they scroll down a bit, they can see it. > > Cheers! > Justin > > > > On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 8:11 AM, Aaron Sowry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Er... I just moved it back to the bottom before reading this email... sorry! I think changing from one language to another inside the page is actually a rare task, as bookmarks can be set directly to the language of choice. It also makes the page look less cluttered :) >>> >>> Right but this is the main page which new users see first. They need >>> to be able to select their language easily. I can see having all >>> other pages have it on the bottom or not at all. The main page should >>> have it on the top. Many people don't speak english. >>> >> Ok. For the benefit of those non-english speakers who find it too >> difficult to scroll to the bottom of the page once to change languages >> before bookmarking it, I shall leave it as is. :) >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > Hi! I have now removed the second heading saying "Welcome to Openmoko". As soon as we find a way to remove "Main Page" we can add it in again. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finger stylus found...
Am 18. August 2008 10:58 schrieb Lothar Behrens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > is this an alternative stylus ? > http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=16138 > Regards > Lothar > > -- > Lothar Behrens |Rapid Prototyping ... > Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 |XSLT Codegeneration > 73252 Lenningen |www.lollisoft.de > I have added this stylus to the wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Stylus_Alternatives ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wiki: Permission denied?
2009/3/28 Toni Mueller : > > Hello, > > while trying to read the wiki, I _often_ get permission denied. Eg. > here: > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Boot > > Go to the lower half of that page, and click on "Boot from microSD". > The link is > http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Boot_from_sd_card&action=edit > which I take as meaning that the target page has been removed. I saw > such a page recently, though I can't say whether it was this, or > another page. > > Similar things actually happen all over the place. :-( > > > Kind regards, > --Toni++ > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > Thank you for pointing this out! I have created a redirect page linking to "Booting from SD", which is the correct title. The link should work now. marko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pulster offer - Freerunner 299 eur
2008/12/29 Christoph Pulster : > Hello, > > some news from Openmoko Shop www.pulster.eu: > > - we are offering Openmoko Freerunner units now for 299 eur. > This is AFAIK best price worldwide. GroupSales 10 units = 279 eur/each > low price = more users = growing community. This is what the Openmoko > project is all about. > > - we stock new accessories: besides the well-known headset, pouch, > batterie pack, debug board, we offer Memory card (8 GB microSD), > Invisible Shield case protection, mains plug adapter. > Any suggestion for further items welcome. > > - all orders will be included a German manual for free > http://www.pulster.de/images/big/handbuch.jpg > We are working on a english one. > > - we are offering a repair service for broken displays: > http://www.pulster.de/engl/images/big/vorher-nachher.jpg > We replace crashed displays with new genuine Openmoko LCD displays, > Price is 89 eur incl. parts, assembling and return postage. > > > > To all Openmoko friends and users, have a great year 2009 ! > Christoph > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > Actually I think the American distributors and Golden Delicious have better offers (I didn't compare shipping costs). Just take a look at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributors ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [CU] voting required
2009/7/24, Patryk Benderz : > Hello list, > As i have finished layout for DistributionBox templates, please take a > look at [1] to see how DistributionBox would look like, which you like > most and post your votes here or on wiki discussion page. > After lets say a week or two, we will count votes and winner will be > included in coming CU as a template for distro - if any will be released > of course :) > Anyone interested how template is constructed can take a look here [2]. > > [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Leadman > [2] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Template:DistributionBox > > -- > Kind Regards > > Patryk Benderz > IT Specialist > Linux Registered User #377521 > +48 22 538 6292 > > ERSTE Securities Polska S.A. > ul. Królewska 16 > Warszawa 00-103 > KRS 065121 > NIP 526-10-27-638 > REGON 011136053 > Kapitał akcyjny: 15.500.000 złotych (w pełni opłacony) > > This message and any attached files are confidential and intended solely > for the addressee(s). Any publication, transmission or other use of the > information by a person or entity other than the intended addressee is > prohibited. If you receive this in error please contact the sender and > delete the material. The sender does not accept liability for any errors > or omissions as a result of the transmission. > > > Email secured by Check Point > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > Hi! I hope I'm interpreting this correctly: Is this template to be included into the community updates when a new image of a distribution is released? It was hard to tell from your mail. Well, I prefer version 1. As black and orange are not the official colours of openmoko anymore we shouldn't use them too much. Furthermore a big coloured box seems out of place in the community updates whose style is currently rather decent. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] Status of the OM community
> > My suggestion is to start with the cleanup of wiki: separate HW and > SW, I have already tried to do this with "Getting Started with your Neo 1973/Neo FreeRunner". The page "Getting Started with your Neo FreeRunner" is obsolete now. Now we have several manuals on the wiki, which are explicitly separated into device manuals and distribution manuals.[1] Unfortunately the manuals page is not linked to from the navigation bar - on the documentation mailing list it was agreed to have a link, but there are no active wiki sysops to change this. > separate devel/user information, This was already discussed several times, but it never really was put into practice. I had planned to attempt this once again when I have got more time - But if anybody else would be willing to do this now that would be great! > archive or delete outdated > information, Some time ago I thought about this too. However this turned out to be problematic for me: Personally I often have problems to tell whether a page is up-to-date or not because I don't have enough knowledge in this topic. Therefore I'd suggest a different method: Mark pages as maintained if there are editors who regularly check if they are still up to date and have a warning on the top of the page if they are not maintained. I'm currently thinking about a concept on how to realize this - comments are welcome! [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manuals ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] Status of the OM community - volunteer
2009/8/24, nacer : > Hi, > I see there is a lot of work on the wiki. How can I help? I am really > new to the project, but let me know how I can be helpful. > Thanks. > Hi and welcome to the Openmoko community! First of all I'd suggest subscribing to the Openmoko documentation mailing list.[1] It's not very active but there are interesting discussions sometimes. Furthermore you can take a look at the Wiki Issues page[2], though this page hasn't been updated for a long time. As you are new user I think you could help by reviewing or writing manuals on the wiki[3], both for the FreeRunner and the distribution you are using. Moreover many pages about certain distributions need updating. I hope this was helpful marko [1] https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/documentation [2] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wiki_Issues [3] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manuals ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?
2009/8/26, Risto H. Kurppa : > Hi! > > Created a doodle poll to see what distros people run on their Openmoko > phones. > > Go & answer at http://doodle.com/sd2c8d8snr23eeqq > > I'll close the poll in a week to add the results to > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2009-09-02 > > > > r > > -- > | risto h. kurppa > | risto at kurppa dot fi > | http://risto.kurppa.fi > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > I think this is great idea, because the last survey is already quite outdated. [1] Could you add separate entries for Om 2007, Om 2008 and Om 2009? [1] http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p2ZQdcRSVg9XfYLwBVsZicg ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Additional editing guidelines for distribution manuals (Was: SHR first experiences & user manual)
2009/8/27, Risto H. Kurppa :
> Hi!
>
> Sorry for an ugly post.
>
> Now that I also decided to go for SHR I was requested [1] to check if
> the SHR user manual is factually correct.
>
> So here are some comments:
>
> "SHR (Stable Hybrid Release) is here to provide you with Root
> FileSystem images that you can easily install onto your Freerunner to
> use as a daily phone. It's filled with prepackaged software that can
> be installed upon demand by users"
>
> So I can off-line install the packaged apps? No, I bet you mean that
> is has stuff pre-installed and you can get more from the
> repositories..
>
> Reading http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual#SHR_Specific and
> I already have the feeling that this hass too many tech stuff.. 'root
> filesystem image', 'ophonekitd' - is that stuff really required here
> to be able to use it? I prefer a nice smooth experience, easy for
> beginners too. Do I now need to go and find out what's ophonekitd?
>
>
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual#Stability
> Maybe the difference of testing and unstable should be written here,
> not in the introduction?
>
> btw. a screenshot (or logo when there is one) would be nice to see on
> top of the manual page, it just would make it again a bit more
> appealing.
>
>
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual#Installation
>
> Maybe the differencies of lite and normal image should be explained
> _before_ you tell where to get them? And somewhere later tell how to
> upgrade -lite to normal
>
> AFAIK only -lite images are currently available? (ok, dos1 explained
> newest fat images were broken and he removed it)
>
> Maybe 'source code' should not be in the 'installation' chapter but
> more of 'devel' or something like that.
>
> Image content: it'd be nice if there were links from the items to home
> pages. What's illume? What's vala-terminal? What's pythm?
>
> Installation: it might not be a bad idea to remind people to upgrade
> the phone firmware and QI/uboot (and maybe tell which one is more
> popular - see http://www.doodle.com/svvsubwnyn4zaxd3 )
>
> Anyway, these are the files I flashed:
> -rw-r--r-- 1 rhk rhk 69992448 2009-08-08 17:49 lite-om-gta02.jffs2
> -rw-r--r-- 1 rhk rhk28596 2009-08-26 19:05
> qi-s3c2442-1.0.2+gitr243+36bb5c03756268ff15b2d95a043ffb39a919ce5c.udfu
> -rw-r--r-- 1 rhk rhk 1832764 2009-08-16 23:32
> uImage-2.6.29-oe11+gitr119838+2d158aae9d8d36f575504f59884ed8e80802efe2-r3.5-om-gta02.bin
>
> flashing.
>
> I'd like to be able to have a dir on my uSD and mount it automatically
> as /home (on om2009 that was the folder bind-home on uSD) but I guess
> manually editing fstab will have to do. Maybe that should be explained
> somewhere here?
>
> How come the check of version is explained before the booting process?
>
> booting.
>
> Initial setup:
> Some lines about the possibilities there would be nice.. How on earth
> do I know what profile to select? Or what 'quick launch' is? Or why do
> I have to see screens where I only can select one item? ('irc' told me
> that the quick launch menu has no effect.. nice...)
>
> rebooting.
>
> Screenshot showing the wrench would be nice.
>
> The manual explains directly the wrench options - maybe SHR settings
> would be more important for usual settings instead of double click
> stuff etc..
>
> Maybe explaining SHR post-installation SCP commands could be done on
> SHR post-installation page instead of the manual. I think it's enough
> to explain what is it and why to run it and then link to the page.
>
> It isn't also told anywhere to run opkg update;opkg upgrade.
>
> Post-installation script would run opkg update, not upgrade. And
> here's a discussion telling the benefits of the script:
>
> 13:41 < rhkfin> Should I run the SHR post-installation script at
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_post-installation
> 13:42 < rhkfin> (as recommended in the SHR manual)
> 13:42 < DocScrutinizer> never heard of
> 13:43 < dos1> neither me
> 13:43 < DocScrutinizer> even "SHR-manual" !? wow o.O
> 13:43 < rhkfin> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual
> 13:44 < dos1> cellhunter?
> 13:44 < dos1> ...
> 13:44 < dos1> use openBmap ;P
> 13:44 < rhkfin> no, not cellhunter :)
> 13:44 < rhkfin> yes I will :)
> 13:44 < rhkfin> (being in ~top5 there :)
> 13:44 < dos1> Navit is already newest in SHR repo
> 13:44 < dos1> ffalarms is in image
> 13:44 < rhkfin> obexpush?
> 13:45 < dos1> dates/tasks - will be replaced by opimd apps soon and in
> shr image by default
> 13:45 < dos1> obexpush - hmm... i'll look at it and maybe include in image
> 13:45 < rhkfin> and I won't need them anyway..
> 13:45 < rhkfin> dos1: ok, great
> 13:45 < dos1> mokomaze why isn't it in fat image by default? o_O
> 13:45 < dos1> cellhunter - no comment :P
> 13:46 < rhkfin> dos1: is there a fat image around? I only find lite..
> 13:46 < dos1> rhkfin: newest fat image was broken
> 13:46 < dos1> rhkfin: so i removed it
> 13:46 < rhkfin> dos1: ah, ok
> 13:46 < dos1> rhkfin: on next regeneration i
Re: Additional editing guidelines for distribution manuals (Was: SHR first experiences & user manual)
> i am not sure if you guys really know what you are talking about: > > navit and sms-sentry have been in shr since long time ago. navit > always needed several tricks to get it working (issues reported) . I'm aware of that. However I think the guide on using Navit and sms-sentry should not be in the SHR manual, because these applications are not specific SHR-applications. > elementary-alarm issue has also been reported long time ago ffalarms > providing a working solution, as mentioned in the manual. This was only an example I mentioned. Being too lazy and too uncreative to come up with my own example I just used an existing obsolete issue as an example. However I think I explained this in a very complicated way. What I wanted to say with that guideline is: "You can include workarounds for an existing bug into the manuals if you want to, but please report this bug to the bugtracking system as well so it can be fixed there as well." Another example might clarify this: in the section "Audio: Volume" I'm told to set control 4 from 110 to 120. If 120 is indeed a better setting for all phones (I didn't try it) this should become the default setting in SHR. While I think it's okay to have the SHR manual explaining how to fix this I think this should also be integrated into the default installation. Therefore a bug report should be created which requests that change. If the bug is fixed this section can be removed from the manual. If the developers decide to leave the volume at 110 then they will have a reason for that and this part should be deleted as well. But the current situation is not very good: SHR has the default volume at 110 and the manual is telling the users to set it to 120. > > i think we started with the shr user manual with the full knowledge > that the stuff moves under our feet (see another post few minutes ago > about someone not being able to download for install). we wanted to > get a platform for tweaking and updating. rather then making guidelines > about guidelines, just > > > 1) correct factual errors > 2) help to fix issues so they don't need workarounds The second point is exactly what I'm trying to do with the new guideline > > also, we still have lots of users who did not install last weeks image > and run shr with what was available then (two weeks ago). > > the page certainly does need attention, i am only not sure if this is > the right way to spend time... > > thank you > Petr > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Community list archives fail
2009/8/28, Risto H. Kurppa : > A message didn't make it to the lists archive completely: > > http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-August/054019.html > > vs. > > http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-f1958 > > r > > > -- > | risto h. kurppa > | risto at kurppa dot fi > | http://risto.kurppa.fi > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > The link to nabble doesn't work. Here's the correct one: http://n2.nabble.com/all-Don-t-answer-a-call-by-turning-FR-upside-down-tp3530667p3530667.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: vi vs. nano in shr user manual (was Re: SHR first experiences & user manual)
2009/8/28, Petr Vanek : > > I also question too many links in the manual as i would like to package > it as html for people to view it on the phone... > The Wiki Editing Guidelines[1] are already telling people to "Use as few links as possible". However these guidelines are hard to find, so only a few people seem to read them. [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_Wiki_Editing_Guidelines#Manuals ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Additional editing guidelines for distribution manuals (Was: SHR first experiences & user manual)
2009/8/27, Marko Knöbl :
> 2009/8/27, Risto H. Kurppa :
>> Hi!
>>
>> Sorry for an ugly post.
>>
>> Now that I also decided to go for SHR I was requested [1] to check if
>> the SHR user manual is factually correct.
>>
>> So here are some comments:
>>
>> "SHR (Stable Hybrid Release) is here to provide you with Root
>> FileSystem images that you can easily install onto your Freerunner to
>> use as a daily phone. It's filled with prepackaged software that can
>> be installed upon demand by users"
>>
>> So I can off-line install the packaged apps? No, I bet you mean that
>> is has stuff pre-installed and you can get more from the
>> repositories..
>>
>> Reading http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual#SHR_Specific and
>> I already have the feeling that this hass too many tech stuff.. 'root
>> filesystem image', 'ophonekitd' - is that stuff really required here
>> to be able to use it? I prefer a nice smooth experience, easy for
>> beginners too. Do I now need to go and find out what's ophonekitd?
>>
>>
>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual#Stability
>> Maybe the difference of testing and unstable should be written here,
>> not in the introduction?
>>
>> btw. a screenshot (or logo when there is one) would be nice to see on
>> top of the manual page, it just would make it again a bit more
>> appealing.
>>
>>
>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual#Installation
>>
>> Maybe the differencies of lite and normal image should be explained
>> _before_ you tell where to get them? And somewhere later tell how to
>> upgrade -lite to normal
>>
>> AFAIK only -lite images are currently available? (ok, dos1 explained
>> newest fat images were broken and he removed it)
>>
>> Maybe 'source code' should not be in the 'installation' chapter but
>> more of 'devel' or something like that.
>>
>> Image content: it'd be nice if there were links from the items to home
>> pages. What's illume? What's vala-terminal? What's pythm?
>>
>> Installation: it might not be a bad idea to remind people to upgrade
>> the phone firmware and QI/uboot (and maybe tell which one is more
>> popular - see http://www.doodle.com/svvsubwnyn4zaxd3 )
>>
>> Anyway, these are the files I flashed:
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 rhk rhk 69992448 2009-08-08 17:49 lite-om-gta02.jffs2
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 rhk rhk28596 2009-08-26 19:05
>> qi-s3c2442-1.0.2+gitr243+36bb5c03756268ff15b2d95a043ffb39a919ce5c.udfu
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 rhk rhk 1832764 2009-08-16 23:32
>> uImage-2.6.29-oe11+gitr119838+2d158aae9d8d36f575504f59884ed8e80802efe2-r3.5-om-gta02.bin
>>
>> flashing.
>>
>> I'd like to be able to have a dir on my uSD and mount it automatically
>> as /home (on om2009 that was the folder bind-home on uSD) but I guess
>> manually editing fstab will have to do. Maybe that should be explained
>> somewhere here?
>>
>> How come the check of version is explained before the booting process?
>>
>> booting.
>>
>> Initial setup:
>> Some lines about the possibilities there would be nice.. How on earth
>> do I know what profile to select? Or what 'quick launch' is? Or why do
>> I have to see screens where I only can select one item? ('irc' told me
>> that the quick launch menu has no effect.. nice...)
>>
>> rebooting.
>>
>> Screenshot showing the wrench would be nice.
>>
>> The manual explains directly the wrench options - maybe SHR settings
>> would be more important for usual settings instead of double click
>> stuff etc..
>>
>> Maybe explaining SHR post-installation SCP commands could be done on
>> SHR post-installation page instead of the manual. I think it's enough
>> to explain what is it and why to run it and then link to the page.
>>
>> It isn't also told anywhere to run opkg update;opkg upgrade.
>>
>> Post-installation script would run opkg update, not upgrade. And
>> here's a discussion telling the benefits of the script:
>>
>> 13:41 < rhkfin> Should I run the SHR post-installation script at
>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_post-installation
>> 13:42 < rhkfin> (as recommended in the SHR manual)
>> 13:42 < DocScrutinizer> never heard of
>> 13:43 < dos1> neither me
>> 13:43 < DocScrutinizer> even "SHR-manual" !? wow o.O
>> 13:43 < rhkfin> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual
>
Re: [shr-u] wakeuptime, was Re: 2.6.31 is out,where is my ultimate kernel?
2009/9/15, Russell Dwiggins : > I'm still a bit confused. I'm in the same boat with others here where it > takes between 3 and 4 rings before I can take any action on the incoming > call. (shr-u and u-boot, both recently updated) > > What is the condition that allows one to take action on a call ~1 ring, and > how does the end user get to that point? I think there are some who will > point to Qi as a part of the solution, but I understand that this is a > faith-based discussion. ;) I'd prefer to remain with u-boot for now until > the suggested kexec kernel shows up to allow me to directly select the > partition I wish to boot from. > > Russell Dwiggins > > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > This is documented in the SHR User Manual[1] and on the SHR wiki[2]. [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual#Speedup_of_suspend_and_wake_up [2] http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Tweaks#majorreallymajorspeedupofsuspendandwakeup ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
