Re: OT: Ubuntu phone HTML5 / QML
At Mon, 16 Mar 2015 10:43:51 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: For our community products we have: because 1, there is no 2 and because 2 there is no 1. What makes the difference? Some investor (Ubuntu) did cover the risk of buying the first set of thousands of eggs and was able to get the price down (higher quantity buyer). My impression of the GTA04 marketing message is: the more people who buy, the cheaper the phone will be! Unfortunately, it hasn't been very clear to me how much cheaper. I suspect that the same is true for other people, particularly those who are not following the project as closely as I have. If I knew that the GTA04 could be produced for 300 Euro if say, 2000, were produced, that could help me convince other people. Of course, if someone is willing to buy today, they might not be willing to wait a year. One way around this is to use the strategy that kickstarter uses: only fund it if a threshold is reached. Just a thought... :) Neal ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: changing IMEI
At Thu, 20 Feb 2014 16:31:46 +0100, joerg Reisenweber wrote: On Thu 20 February 2014 15:27:33 Neal H. Walfield wrote: Why do you think the only use for a mobile phone is to make calls? If I only make a data connection and am careful to tunnel all of my data via Tor, then this identification method is useful. Neal Err, right. For that usecase it might work - until you do *anything* that gives away your ID, which is even more easy in internet than in a GSM call (think searching for 2 or 3 topics on google which are specific to you. Or visiting 2 or 3 specific websites, maybe even in a certain specific usage pattern. Obviously you can't use email or anything like that. And google [and others] might be able to identify you from your typing style and rhythm into the search term textfield already). And no, you probably can't use a VPN to have only encrypted data transferred over the air. I don't think there are any free and open VPN endpoints available. Using Tor avoids this problem. Check it out: https://www.torproject.org/ Neal ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: changing IMEI
At Thu, 20 Feb 2014 14:11:33 +0100, joerg Reisenweber wrote: On Thu 20 February 2014 12:05:00 Christoph Pulster wrote: Hi, @joerg: sorry we mis-communicate. No we don't. Or at least I don't. ;-) I am not talking about tracking (location of caller), me neither since that's absolutely trivial but identification of caller. me too If I buy a mobile, name is registered and connected with IMEI. Depends. Using a Openmoko and changing IMEI with Michaels tool does make a new device out of it. Logfiles cant be law prooven evident of my identity. Sorry, that's a dangerous misconception. Again, just in case I still didn't manage to make it clear enough: there is nobody else but you on this earth calling those 3 phone numbers (unless you call numbers that are getting called by 0.5mio users per day). Simply compare who called number A during last year, and who also called number B during last year already reduces number of individuals to max 10. Then check which of those 10 individuals doesn't use her/his old IMEI anymore and here you are: old IMEI linked to new fake IMEI. With only 2 calls done from your new SIM and IMEI to your wife and your mother (or any other arbitrary two normal phone numbers you called before). This will hold for evidence on any court, better than fingerprints. Why do you think the only use for a mobile phone is to make calls? If I only make a data connection and am careful to tunnel all of my data via Tor, then this identification method is useful. Neal ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v58 with 2.6.39 kernel and improved power management
Hi, At Thu, 12 Dec 2013 10:09:19 +0100, Radek Polak wrote: QtMoko v58 for Freerunner is now out! You can download here [1] and visit our homepage [2] for more info. ... As for the other changes. I plan to start using Freerunner as my daily phone To what degree are you still working on qtmoko for gta04? Will there be a release of v58 for the gta04? Thanks for the great work! Neal ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First small steps toward free GSM firmware
At Sat, 16 Nov 2013 00:03:33 +0100, kardan wrote: [1 multipart/signed (7bit)] [1.1 text/plain; US-ASCII (quoted-printable)] Am Fri, 15 Nov 2013 02:17:48 +0100 schrieb joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org: [quote] Lastly, the baseband processor is usually the master processor, whereas the application processor (which runs the mobile operating system) is the slave. [/quote] Nothing more to say. This article isn't worth the CPU time to render it on my screen. You can hack and exploit the baseband as much as you like, it stays baseband can can do nothing it couldn't do anytime on any location in the network. IOW, don't worry about what's going on in your modem. It's even less interesting than what's going on in your harddisk of your PC. Since the harddisk could actually introduce a infected bootloader or kernel to your system, the modem is sth you rarely ever boot from. ;-P I don't get you (or got you wrong). The article says (which indeed is no news), that the baseband can be easily exploited which affects the applications you are running (or are started / installed remotely). http://lists.mayfirst.org/pipermail/guardian-dev/2012-October/001012.html http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/03/07/baseband_processor_mobile_hack_threat/?page=1 This is the key bit from the Register's article: Just like on PCs, modern (smart)phone designs are based on a shared memory architecture, Rupp told El Reg. In other words, the baseband processor and the application processor share the same physical memory to communicate with each other. Even though there are various protection techniques like DEP (Data Execution Prevention) in place that should in principle prevent that, memory pages which contain executable code can be written to. As long as the modem and CPU only communicate via the serial port, i.e., there is no shared memory, then the application CPU is (relatively) safe from attacks started from the baseband CPU. As I understand it, this is the case for the GTA0*, but it would be good to have confirmation of this from someone better in the know. Neal ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Gta04-owner] Status GTA04 GroupTour
Hi, It seems to me that there are two problems. First, if someone orders a GTA04, that person doesn't get all the hardware--that person needs to have a GTA01 or GTA02 and do some non-trivial assembly. I realize that you have some cases that you are selling, which is the route that I went, but I think these are limited and independent of the group tour. If this option hadn't been available, I would not have signed up for a GTA04. Second, I think you are lacking publicity. I haven't seen an article about this on the news sites that I follow, such as lwn.net (did I miss it?). Given these two problems, I'd try to solve the first one before the second one (one only gets so many chances with the media...). I suspect that people who are buying a GTA04 at this stage are not looking to use it as a phone immediately--they probably want to hack on it. These people don't need a phone case. But, they do need an LCD to get the experience. My proposal would be to create a hackers package: a GTA04 board, LCD and a big bulky case that could be placed next to a workstation. Even better would be if there is a commitment to provide a case once it is ready (do you have a time frame for this?). Thanks, Neal ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
