Hi there,
Running debian and e17... occasionally I get a strange (but nice)
noise from my phone, and I've just managed to correlate this with
someone sending me an SMS. But I don't see any message appearing in
the Zhone UI - where should I be looking?
If I reboot into Qtopia, the new message app
2008/11/30 John Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Echo:
>
> Since there are different hw versions out there (a5, a6, a7), it's
> impossible to provide one alsa state file that suits all models.
> However, it seems you can always find appropriate values for your
> neo. My way is to adjust
> control.4 Sp
2008/11/23 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> it's atypical. trust me. i do NOT like segv's! if i see them, i hunt them down
> with vengeance. the problem is reproducing them and getting a sensible
> backtrace and possibly getting it to do the same in valgrind so i can pinpoint
2008/11/23 Bernd Prünster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> do you really care about segv ? this si not a debian issue, e17 is still in
> development, but the recovery option is flawless (just my experience, but
> ALWAYS worked and it doesn't take more that a few seconds, so you can still
> answer a call if
2008/11/23 Jesus McCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> rocks!
> compared to my xfce dekstop i now DO see what raster meant ("desktops on
> diet")
I'm liking it too, definitely has immediately become my default,
replacing trayer+openmoko-panel-plugin. I especially like
- the < and > buttons for switch
2008/11/23 Paul Fertser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Here's an ugly hack to do what you suggest:
> bash -c 'xmodmap -e "pointer = 2 3 1"; /root/bin/waitclick.sh; xmodmap
> -e "pointer = 1 2 3"'
>
> where /root/bin/waitclick.sh:
> #!/bin/sh
> input-events 1 2>&1 | ( grep -q -m 1 released && kill $$ )
>
2008/11/22 Anton Persson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> He, actually you're right.. I withdraw that remark.. It's OK hardware,
> but with an excellent aesthetic design, and an innovative UI. A UI that
> would
> not have been possible if the multi-touch hardware was not in place.
>
> /Anton
>
> On Sat,
2008/11/23 Paul Fertser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hello, everybody!
>
> I think i found a universal (not only GTK) and easy (without special
> tslib drivers) solution that should work on any X-server.
>
> I just added to my fbpanel two icons to launch xmodmap -e 'pointer = 1
> 2 3' and xmodmap -e 'poi
2008/11/23 Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I must admit I had just started the upgrade command and went off to do
> different things...
I've seen this too. But in my case I was OK again after a reboot.
Neil
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On 11/11/2008, arne anka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > - used kill to kill the old running version
>
>
> i experienced that sometimes myself, too.
> kill seems not to be the best way. looks like some cleaning up is not done
> and the frameworkd is left in confusion.
> restart frameworkd complet
2008/11/5 Neil Jerram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> My GSM icon is indicating off, even after I got notification windows
> correctly indicating my provider (T-Mobile) and a reasonable-sounding
> signal strength...
I just updated to the latest version and now it is exiting after
produci
2008/11/10 Marian Flor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> No. My MBR was never fragged (This would have been be fatal for me on
> the next morning. Of course I mean the _card's_ MBR ;-) ).
LOL!
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On 07/11/2008, Glen Ogilvie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I sent Marcus an email on Monday and have not heard back, so figured he must
> be busy or on holiday.. or have a spam filter that does not like me :). So
> was just wondering if anyone here happened to know of a repository for it.
You
2008/11/5 Sebastian Ohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi folks,
>
> after the confusion on the last few days now i am happy to announce a
> new version of the openmoko-panel-plugin.
Thank you for working on this, it's really useful!
> * new battery-icons
I'm not sure I like the new icon better, but I
2008/11/5 Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> not relevant because debian doesn't use xglamo. At the moment it uses
>
> For some odd reason, the recommended install doesn't use it, but the
> OpenMoko wiki does mention that it's a good idea to install it. I hope
> Debian users all use xglamo, si
2008/11/4 Matthias Apitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Hello,
>
> Maybe it is worth to split away this 'open sourced' Android to its own
> mailing list to not flood the users of a free software project with
> this Google stuff?
Just my personal view... I disagree. I'm not much interested in the
Andro
2008/11/1 Dale Maggee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone know a way to determine which distro I have on my freerunner
> from the command line?
As a rule, it's more robust to detect the particular thing (library,
application, header file etc.) that you're interested in, rather than
detectin
2008/10/30 Matthew Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> I've installed Audacious, Noatun, Sonata, and VLC. Audacious is the
> only player I've been able to hear sound from, but it skips, and very
> frequently! Noatun will not play my music, and Sonata won't add my
> music to its library even though I re
2008/10/29 Joachim Breitner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> what you describe has already happend, ans is renamed to "nodm" (for no
> display manager). It is basically zhone-session, with all zhone-specific
> parts removed. And it does indeed just start ~/.xsession (if no desktop
> environment is installe
As they stand, I don't believe the zhone startup files support user
customization. Such as (in my case) starting up fbpanel and
openmoko-panel-plugin. Of course, you can change conf files under
/etc, but then you'll have a conflict to resolve on next upgrade.
I think what could work is
- in /etc
2008/10/29 Matthias Apitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Is there somehow I structured way to pre-fetch maps without using
> tangoGPS and go virtually to the area and walking around there on the
> touch pad? I mean, can I say "I wanna have the area with the coordinates
> X1-X2-X3-X4 and store them with z
2008/10/29 Arigead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> I'm not using the FR as a daily phone as yet but thought I could simply
> use an AT command to do a quick check on the various signal strengths. I
> tried "AT+WS46=?" but it has not come back to me and just hangs there.
> Does anybody, with better knowled
2008/9/30 Neil Jerram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 2008/9/27 Jan Luebbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> On Fri, 2008-09-26 at 19:42 +0100, Neil Jerram wrote:
>>> 2008/9/26 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>> > Oh, the testing UI. Yes, you can
2008/10/22 clare johnstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Beware:
> http://blog.assembla.com/assemblablog/tabid/12618/bid/7019/New-subscription-plans-Clarification-and-even-better-pricing.aspx
(And never mind the content, just the ".aspx" is a strong hint of what
we need to know.)
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2008/10/17 Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> It gives the correct routing but the problem is i am not getting
> responses back when i try to ping the gateway.
What about encryption, then? Does your network use WEP or WPA?
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2008/10/17 Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> What step am I missing? It does detect my access point because i can
> see it's mac address in iwconfig but all packets are dropped when I
> try to use ping my access point.
> iwconfig eth0 mode managed channel 1
> iwconfig eth0 essid madwifi
> ifconfig eth0
2008/10/16 Riccardo Centra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Why Qtopia? I prefer that you release the next minor update ( aka 2008.10 )
> and focus all works on paroli and tichy.
> The new framework is pretty usable and stable.
I agree that you should not spend time on Qtopia. Even though I use
Qtopia most
2008/10/16 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Here are my desired clients I want to develop:
> - Emacs phone services on top of dbus
Hey, me too! Can we share / help each other out?
That said, all I have so far is an attempt at an Emacs soft keyboard
(attached). It's very clunky and basic right now, but
2008/10/9 Jason Cawood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> What I think I didn't communicate very well is:
>
> 1. phone is in suspend mode.
> 2. GSM wakes phone for sms notification
> 3. screen blanks after timeout
> 4. LED blinks while phone is not in suspend.
>
> Would that be a possible solution?
I think I
2008/10/6 Nicolas Linkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> # The primary network interface
> allow-hotplug eth0
> iface eth0 inet static
>address 192.168.0.101
>netmask 255.255.255.0
>network 192.168.0.0
>broadcast 192.168.0.255
>gateway 192.168.0.100
>dns-na
2008/10/3 Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Now I only have to figure out why I can't ssh to the FR anymore. (FR
> can't ping to desktopmachine, while desktop does ping FR ;-) Always
> more fun.
Sounds like routing. If you mean over Wifi, and your wireless network
is 192.168.0/24 (as mine is), the rou
2008/10/2 Davide Scaini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> and what about the boot speed-up script: is that useful?
Sorry, I haven't tried that, so can't say.
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2008/10/2 Davide Scaini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi,
> in these days i'm going to install debian.
> Do you have any hints before starting to have a nice installation?
My hint: first get a bigger uSD card than the 0.5Gb that comes with
the FR. Joachim's install takes around 450Mb, which leaves very
2008/10/1 Tha_Man <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Great find! I ran into this yesterday as well, but I have another question:
> I'm using Om2008.9 to install Debian on my Freerunner, how do I 'install'
> libcaca0 and libcucul0?
> I know I can access the card, but how do I install these libs to it?
You ha
2008/9/27 Jan Luebbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Fri, 2008-09-26 at 19:42 +0100, Neil Jerram wrote:
>> 2008/9/26 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> > Oh, the testing UI. Yes, you can send messages with that one as well.
>> > Push &#x
2008/9/30 Petr Vanek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Neil, would you mind sending a bit more direct link, i am having 0 luck
> googling this up... thank you
Here is one:
http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2008-June/033990.html.
Regards,
Neil
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2008/9/28 Neil Jerram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 2008/9/28 Neil Jerram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> No, it doesn't. Now I get:
>
> The following packages have unmet dependencies: [...]
> E: Broken packages
>
> Hmm. I'll try again tomorrow.
Solution!
- Put
2008/9/30 W.Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Cant handle 6-7000 messages going back 5 years (I regard this as medium,
> 5+ is large :)
You may like to check the archives of the maemo-developers mailing
list. There were similar discussions recently there, and IIRC with
possible solutions.
R
2008/9/28 Neil Jerram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> But it's taking forever to unzip the testing Packages file...
That was caused by Qtopia mounting /dev/mmcblk0p2 with the sync
option. If you unmount and remount, apt-get update runs much faster.
> I'll
> report back
2008/9/28 Nathan Kinkade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Just for the record, I'm seeing precisely the same thing.
Thanks. It's a Debian unstable issue, not Free Runner specific; see
"Testing status" here:
http://packages.qa.debian.org/libc/libcaca.html.
I'm in the process of trying to complete the ins
2008/9/28 Neil Jerram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> zhone-session: Depends: fso-frameworkd but it is not going to be installed
> E: Broken packages
The root cause of this seems to be a dependency loop between libcaca0
and libcucu
Just reinstalling debian, and the fso stage fails with:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ./install.sh fso
Running stage fso
Installing FSO-specific packages
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
pkg-fso-keyring is already the newest version.
Package xserver-x
2008/9/26 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Oh, the testing UI. Yes, you can send messages with that one as well.
> Push 'Messages', then chose a contact from your SIM, then compose your
> message, then it's going into the outbox and will be sent.
Hm. I couldn't make anything like
2008/9/25 Al Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Thursday 25 September 2008, Neil Jerram wrote:
>>
>> Did you have to change your bootloader configuration?
>
> I had to add a menu entry to the NAND uboot if that's what you mean - see
> below. These are as in t
2008/9/25 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Am Donnerstag, den 25.09.2008, 12:29 +0100 schrieb Neil Jerram:
>> Is it possible to send an SMS (aka text message) in debian/zhone? If
>> so, how? I couldn't work out how, or find
Is it possible to send an SMS (aka text message) in debian/zhone? If
so, how? I couldn't work out how, or find any instructions anywhere.
Thanks,
Neil (wondering whether to move back to Debian, after failing to
get going with FDOM...)
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2008/9/25 Al Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> I did it at the end of last week. Don't remember exactly what I did but it
> didn't cause me any problems. I'm using the kernel from /boot on the SD.
Did you have to change your bootloader configuration?
Neil
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2008/9/24 Neil Jerram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 2008/9/24 Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>> You can get this excitement if your SD card was mounted with "nodev" at
>> unpack as well, usually that is complaining about no /dev/pts/* or other
>> valid
2008/9/24 Neil Jerram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 2008/9/24 William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Did you use -p in your unpack? I forgot it once and had similar issues.
>
> No, I didn't - because the Wiki
> (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD#Prep
2008/9/24 Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> You can get this excitement if your SD card was mounted with "nodev" at
> unpack as well, usually that is complaining about no /dev/pts/* or other
> valid /dev bits needed.
Thanks. I checked that at the time, though (because the Wiki covers
it), and i
2008/9/24 William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Did you use -p in your unpack? I forgot it once and had similar issues.
No, I didn't - because the Wiki
(http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD#Prepare_the_SD_card)
doesn't say that. I'll update it.
Thanks!
Neil
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Hi there, trying to boot from FDOM on my SD card...
So I downloaded the latest rootfs.tar.gz and uImage.bin from
http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM/, unpacked the rootfs.tar.gz into
/media/mmcblk0p2, and copied the uImage.bin to /media/card. I was
previously running Debian on the SD card, so I t
2008/9/24 Neil Jerram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Then I noticed that the rootfs.tar.gz doesn't actually have sbin/init
> in it. It has sbin/init.sysvinit. Should sbin/init be a symlink to
> that? Or is there another cause of this problem?
Well, I created sbin/init as a s
2008/9/23 Alasal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> I've put it into a package, so it is easy to install/remove.
> see
> http://onlinedev.blogspot.com/2008/09/getting-duke-nukem-3d-on-your-neo.html
Nice, but why not put it into the community repository, so it just
shows up in the package manager without peo
2008/9/23 Christian Weßel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> But from where can I get LAN tools for [EMAIL PROTECTED] In which package I
> will find it?
ping is in inetutils-ping.
Neil
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2008/9/22 Christian Weßel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Without network tools I am not able to check my FR network and therefore i
> can't install any further SW.
What kind of networking have you set up? USB, or have you configured
your WIFI too?
What does ifconfig say? Maybe there will be a clue t
2008/9/21 Charles Pax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> All the Freerunner would be needed for is processing the input of the
> mic-in. The freerunner microphone isn't used. Imagine a stick with two
> microphones glued 400 cm apart and connected to a audio cable. There is more
> to it, but that's pretty muc
Hi Charles,
2008/9/21 Charles Pax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I'm considering the plausibility of a little hardware project that would
> turn a Freerunner or any computer with an adequate sound card into a mimio
> [1] device.
[...]
> Any input from the community?
Assuming I've understood this even h
On 20/09/2008, Fox Mulder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Maybe it is related to the problems i have with the matchbox keyboard
> because of the quite old version supplied with debian.
Just regarding "quite old version": I couldn't find anything newer
than 0.1 anywhere, so perhaps that is the curre
2008/9/19 Joachim Breitner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Am Freitag, den 19.09.2008, 00:59 +0200 schrieb Neil Jerram:
>>
>> It looks like the problem is in
>> /usr/share/matchbox-keyboard/keyboard-extended.xml: at line 276, it
>> has two entries which both have
>>
This is just another SD corruption data point, and a partial one,
since I'm afraid I've lost any detailed logs.
I am running Qtopia on flash, and Debian on the SD card. Two days ago
I found that booting into Debian failed at the point of trying to
mount the rootfs; the last message was "Kernel pa
Using the matchbox keyboard to type on my FR, I found that I couldn't
type a "<" character into vi. Shift-"," and Shift-"." both produce
">".
It looks like the problem is in
/usr/share/matchbox-keyboard/keyboard-extended.xml: at line 276, it
has two entries which both have
I would guess that
2008/9/16 Lorn Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Sorry, voip had to be removed from Qtopia.
Something to do with Nokia's wider commercial interests/partnerships?
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2008/9/16 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi,
>
> AFAIK, Java is the "de-facto" standard programming language for the
> Android SDK. What is or not Free Software isn't yet known (again AFAIK)
> although it was rumoured to be about 20% non-free.
Ah, Google's famous 20% ! :-)
(For a
2008/9/15 Yogiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Can I take it that you both agree with what I was writing about?
> Yeah, you're right. Feel free to fix the wiki page.
Thanks, I've done that now:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Om_2008.8_Keyboard&diff=53993&oldid=53456
Please let me know if you h
Hi, just one query on this:
2008/9/15 Daniel Benoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> You should be able to make software that runs on all the distributions,
> because they have X11 in common. If it can run on a Linux X11 PC with one
> mouse button and at 480x640, it should be able to run on any distributi
English translation added...
2008/9/14 Oscar Casamitjana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hola a todos,
Hello everyone.
> probando el qtopia 4.3.3, me he dado cuenta de que si conecto los
> auriculares mientras está sonando una canción se activa el altavoz del
> freerunner a la vez que se oye por los auri
2008/9/14 Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
>>
>> I actually think of it as "restrictive" instead of "predictive" because
>> it only allows me to write what it thinks I want, and should give up as
>> soon as it couldn't match a word.
>>
>> Having to wait
Hello everyone, this is my first openmoko email, so please be gentle!
It seems clear to me that the so-called "predictive" keyboard is not
actually predictive at all; it is actually "fuzzy", in terms of how it
maps your stylus or finger position to a set of possible intended
letters.
In particula
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