Re: Wiki application list.
On 7/27/07, Mark Eichin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (cut) 3: How long does the device run on a battery? On an 850mAh nokia battery... maybe 3 hours mostly idle (not sure, I came back to find it dead.) Haven't timed it with the 1200mAh real battery, but basically, power management isn't really there yet. Is it hard to do it? Would using NO_HZ in the kernel help? Waiting for our neo, N.- -- http://arhuaco.org http://emQbit.com ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OpenMoko/GTA01 project advice
Hi. We are starting a project and we will use a Neo GTA01 ( We are also waiting for it to ship :) ). We will need at least two more, but we need to try one first. We need to: * Make calls to send arbitrary data (We'd like to use the GSM for data) * Record voice messages on the phone and send them to another user (via GSM) I have a few questions: * Will we be able to use the GSM directly? I am new to this, and I'd like to know if we can make a GSM call (to other Neo) and send arbitrary data. * Will the power management issue be solved soon? I guess that we will need at least 8 hours of battery power. (I know we can also help, but I'd like to know if someone is working on it). On the other hand, we _will_ use the Neo, but we need to have another phones for backups (using other brands). I think we will help debug problems since we will be able to make comparisons. We need to be able to show a new product to our client, and he will not care if the Neo is ready or not. But we care and we will wait. So, a new question is: What other phone will allow us to test this functionality? Better if it's Linux based. We were planning to use a A1200, but this phone is no useful at all for what we're trying to do. I've read that you get a shell with a lot of SE-Linux stuff enabled, and that you cannot get to use the phone as you'd like to from the command line. I wonder if we can have access to the audio codecs (HW) and to the GSM in this phone. We'd rather use GSM for voice since GPRS latency is quite big (at least in our country). http://wiki.openezx.org/Project_Status Regards, Nelson.- -- http://arhuaco.org http://emQbit.com ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Phone emulator under Gentoo?
Also the developer version? I have the libsdl1.2-dev package in my Debian sid system. And I forgot to say that I built the emulator with this library. I hadn't it before I noticed it was missing. Regards, Nelson.- -- http://arhuaco.org http://emQbit.com ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko/GTA01 project advice
On 7/27/07, Andreas Kostyrka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- (cut) * Will we be able to use the GSM directly? I am new to this, and I'd like to know if we can make a GSM call (to other Neo) and send arbitrary data. Yes and no. You cannot make a Voice call and send arbitrary data. You can make a data call (so called CSD) and send arbitrary data. Trouble is that this is clearly visible to the operator as the call is signaled differently, so if you are trying to avoid data call costs, it's not possible. We didn't know about CSD. Good. We are not trying to avoid any cost. We just care about the latency of the GPRS link which renders it rather unusable, at least in our country. As a mental model, you can think of the Neo as an Linux/ARM based PDA with an embedded GSM modem. :) Regards. -- http://arhuaco.org http://emQbit.com ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Phone emulator under Gentoo?
On 7/27/07, Xamindar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: # ls /usr/lib64/libSDL* /usr/lib64/libSDL-1.2.so.0 /usr/lib64/libSDL.la /usr/lib64/libSDL_net-1.2.so.0.0.7 /usr/lib64/libSDL_net.so /usr/lib64/libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.1 /usr/lib64/libSDLmain.a /usr/lib64/libSDL_net.a /usr/lib64/libSDL.so /usr/lib64/libSDL.a /usr/lib64/libSDL_net-1.2.so.0 /usr/lib64/libSDL_net.la Mmm. I don't know what to say. I also have /usr/include/SDL. I don't know about gentoo / 64 bits. Do you have the sdl-config script available? I think it's used a lot by the configure script and it should tell it where to find things. $ sdl-config --cflags -I/usr/include/SDL -D_GNU_SOURCE=1 -D_REENTRANT BTW: /host/qemu-neo1973$ ldd arm-softmmu/qemu-system-arm linux-gate.so.1 = (0xe000) libm.so.6 = /lib/i686/cmov/libm.so.6 (0xb7ee1000) libz.so.1 = /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0xb7ecc000) libSDL-1.2.so.0 = /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0 (0xb7e1a000) librt.so.1 = /lib/i686/cmov/librt.so.1 (0xb7e11000) libutil.so.1 = /lib/i686/cmov/libutil.so.1 (0xb7e0d000) libc.so.6 = /lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 (0xb7cc6000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7f28000) libasound.so.2 = /usr/lib/libasound.so.2 (0xb7c0) libdl.so.2 = /lib/i686/cmov/libdl.so.2 (0xb7bfb000) libdirectfb-0.9.so.25 = /usr/lib/libdirectfb-0.9.so.25 (0xb7ba5000) libfusion-0.9.so.25 = /usr/lib/libfusion-0.9.so.25 (0xb7b9f000) libdirect-0.9.so.25 = /usr/lib/libdirect-0.9.so.25 (0xb7b9) libvga.so.1 = /usr/lib/libvga.so.1 (0xb7b3) libpthread.so.0 = /lib/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0 (0xb7b19000) Regards. -- http://arhuaco.org http://emQbit.com ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What's the real scope of hardware openness?
On 8/6/07, Giles Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6 Aug 2007, at 23:58, Ortwin Regel wrote: Run an open Wifi node. It's becoming less and less of a good idea to do that these days. You are responsible for any activity on your connection, so if someone commits a crime you'll have a hard time proving it wasn't you. It's also hard to prove it was you. A Friend says he always leaves Wifi open. http://wiki.freaks-unidos.net/weblogs/azul/open-your-wifi http://opwifi.com/ What if a lot of people leave Wifi open? Regards.- -- http://arhuaco.org http://emQbit.com ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OE error building xorg-xserver
Hi. I searched for the error and I noticed that someone else noticed it: http://pastebin.ca/995933 Regards, Nelson.- -- http://arhuaco.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Let us impact the material world
I am in Columbia. Drinking local coffee (yes Paola your coffee is thebest in the world) and thinking with the early morning clarity only those blessed with jag-lag can understand. Sean, I'm _really_ glad you enjoyed our Colombian Coffee, our food, and I hope you can keep in touch with the spirits that live in our landscapes. I'm sure that those spirits are friends of the spirit that lives in the computer [1]. [1] (I really like what Alan Perlis said) http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/sicp/book/book.html Start with things people are familiar with and find new ways to make them more qualitative, says Offray. Take SMS, he continues, instead of just plain text, why not send special compressed messages, readable only by Neos. We can use these as enablers to change mobile ecosystems. Hack their network to embed more freedoms for normal people. Add more meaning. Transform our Neo into an artifact. I think encrypted messages are crucial for freedom. I also think most people don't know how easy it is for others to see what they send through the networks. I cannot wait to see those Encrypted messages traveling free through _their_ networks to deliver _our_ messages. Regards, Nelson.- (one very excited (amateur ^ 3)) -- http://arhuaco.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Let us impact the material world
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Paul Wouters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 27 Jun 2008, Nelson Castillo wrote: I think encrypted messages are crucial for freedom. I also think most people don't know how easy it is for others to see what they send through the networks. I cannot wait to see those Encrypted messages traveling free through _their_ networks to deliver _our_ messages. That means: - Phase out SMS in favour of IM (SMS char limit makes crypto hard, cheaper too) - Use OTR with IM (http://otr.cypherpunks.ca) I am not sure at the current state of IM clients, but there are python bindings for OTR at http://pyotr.pentabarf.de/ I will go at it as soon as I can order my Freerunner in Canada Mmm. Doesn't IM requiere permanent connection? For status updates, etc? I'd like to know what you think about two things: 1) We know email is broken (at least unsafe and prone to spam) 2) What is the best alternative for this scenario? Is it really IM? 3) Are there other (IP-based) protocolos suitable for delivering the encrypted messages? Regards, Nelson.- -- http://arhuaco.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Suggestion: default /etc/resolv.conf
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Brian C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Suggestion: The rootfs should contain a resolv.conf that lists some publicly-available dns servers so that people with new FreeRunners would have a chance of getting net access without editing that file first. Hi Brian. There's the DHCP issue that other emails talk about. Another problem is that you have to trust your DNSs and somehow it would mean that OpenMoko trusts (blindly) a few DNS servers. I feel that trusting a DNS is a very sensitive issue and that's why I only trust my own. Best regards, N.- -- http://arhuaco.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Suggestion: default /etc/resolv.conf
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | There's the DHCP issue that other emails talk about. Another problem | is that you have to trust your DNSs and somehow it would mean that | OpenMoko trusts (blindly) a few DNS servers. I feel that trusting a | DNS is a very sensitive issue and that's why I only trust my own. Running your own caching DNS resolver is not too hard with djbdns and bind in the distros. But even then you have to blindly trust the root servers... http://www.renesys.com/blog/2008/05/identity_theft_hits_the_root_n_1.shtml So I read. This was a big issue! I really wonder they did with that privilege. We definitely have to trust the root name servers :-( Anyway I think we-re going offtopic here :-) Regards, N.- -- http://arhuaco.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: andy-tracking kernel?
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Christopher J. White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've seen a lot of references to the andy-tracking kernel. A search of archives yields some info about this with regard to a shift to the 2.6.27 kernel. However, I've not been able to really understand what's in it, or what the current state of the kernel is. Would someone mind elaborating a little on a few points: 1. Is this generally available? If so, where? http://people.openmoko.org/andy/ Right now the kernel is bigger than 2MB, and you have to either use Qi as the boot loader (it's still under heavy development now but some people use it) or use U-Boot. For U-boot check: http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-f528198 I read this kernel will be smaller when it becomes the stable kernel (with a recommended configuration for distributors). You might want to read this email: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-November/006945.html 2. I'm currently running Debian with the stock kernel that gets put in place by the install.sh script. Can I use this kernel with Debian? There are caveats on the Debian pages about using other kernel, so has anyone used this with Debian successfully? I don't know. Some paths have changed in /sys and some user-space tools will have to change. I don't know how this affects Debian. Check: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-November/006789.html 3. What do I get with it? What is at risk? I've hear that it has better suspend/resume support. It has some improvements but I don't know about all of them. Thanks... I apologize if this info is out there somewhere, but I have spent a significant amount of time digging through past threads, and I'm just not getting a complete picture. To build from sources you need to: git clone git://git.openmoko.org/git/kernel.git linux-2.6 git-checkout --track -b local-andy-tracking origin/andy-tracking git-pull # it should be up to date cd linux-2.6 cp ./arch/arm/configs/gta02-moredrivers-defconfig .config There's a build script that you can run. You need to install a toolchain to build it. For instance, in the build script I use: export CROSS_COMPILE=ccache /usr/local/openmoko/arm/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Reliable application for accelerometers?
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 4:42 AM, KaZeR ka...@altern.org wrote: Hi everyone. I'd need to be able to record accelerometers values and graph them later. The measure should last around 30 minutes. Can anyone recommend an application for that? You might find this page useful. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer_data_retrieval N.- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.12] Adding swap space can stop app crashes
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org wrote: On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:14:53 am Nick Van Fossen wrote: So, I'm a bit lazy so instead of going through the trouble of adding a swap partition, I just created a swap file. I would say that you're not necessarily being lazy there, if you configure a swap partition then you are limiting where the kernel can write bytes on the SD card which will lead to uneven wear on it. In future with a COW SSD aware wear-leveling filsystem like btrfs a swap file may end up being more SD friendly as the filesystem may (hopefully!) balance out those writes across the card. I saw this project some time ago. It seems nice but I don't know if it can be useful for you. I tested with an old laptop I had (X86) and it worked well. About 7 months ago the author said he had crashes in ARM arch ... I did not test and I do not know whether the crashes were fixed. http://code.google.com/p/compcache/ N.- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is Israel a Democracy? -- The problem with intellectually insecure whites -- Should Christians Support Israeli Terrorism in Gaza?
See the headers. I strongly suspect some forgery... It seems so... N.- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Updated WM8753 routing diagram with ALSA control names (was: Re: [FSO] Any luck with bluetooth headsets?)
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com wrote: Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com writes: Simon Kagstrom simon.kagst...@gmail.com writes: From looking at the diagram, I think that would make sense at least. I haven't figured out how to affect these still from looking in the state file and in the driver though. I'm going to prepare a routing diagram with alsa control names printed over it real soon (today/tomorrow), as i'm already familiar with the driver code, so it's just work to be done. Man, it was tough: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_1973_audio_subsystem#ALSA_Channels All alsa control names that affect routing are now printed over the diagram. I can provide Inkscape source file on demand. The controls that are not mentioned either affect ADC/DAC in various not routing-related ways (and to use them one most probably needs to look at the datasheet anyway) or affect power management in freerunner-specific way (and therefore their names are self-explanatory). Paul, This diagram looks quite pretty. I was looking into this ALSA issue but it was rather silly, mostly because I am not qualified to fix it. Of course I didn't know that when I started looking into it and somehow the lack of documentation misled me -- I'll update the wiki page in a few hours so that nobody else gets misled by it as it happened to me. I'll assume that you don't need my help and try to work on something else, like help getting something upstream. If you think I can do something that helps you for this issue please tell me or tell Andy. N.- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Lack of structured information
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@openmoko.org wrote: More over, the idea of the FSO odeviced API is that you no longer need to worry about sysfs paths anyways. If there's something you are missing, toss us a mail to smartphones-standa...@linuxtogo.org We just documented this fact here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Kernel#Sysfs_paths Thanks :-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Monologue - very simple dictation assistant
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: Hi, since I could not find any existing software to do what I need I wrote my own: http://iki.fi/lindi/darcs/monologue/ records audio only when you talk. It's very early version so don't expect much. I hope to be able to use it dictate notes and use it with at least openstreetmap. Here you are: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Monologue Listed in : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Recording_audio I cannot wait to finish something I'm doing so that I can start playing with the audio recording programs in my phone :-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Register your FreeRunner at Linux Counter
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: Hi all, Please register your device at http://counter.li.org I filled out these details, please let me know if you have better details: I tried to use the same details and registered #397298 . Perhaps some one is interested in packaging the linux couter tool in an opk? That would be nice :-) I installed perl and then tried to run the automatic script using SHR unstable but it died -- I didn't check why. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Problem installing apache webserver on my FreeRunner
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote: I just got my new FR fone as a part of my university research program and tried installing apache2 but it does not install.It returns error status 2. Can you guys suggest how i can go ahead. I am using OM 2008.12. I tried opkg install apache2 FWIW, maybe you'd be better served by installing Debian since you then have a larger collection of standard packages. I've had good luck with the Cherokee webserver on the ARM (Cherokee + PHP). http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=cherokee I've used it with Openembedded also. I remember we even had a custom recipe for the latest version (available 1 1/2 years ago) but it wasn't in shape to be contributed back. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Kernel git repository branch name understanding-- Help!
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com wrote: It seems that I have sent the wrong list, resend it again. What a cross-post! It's a weekend. Relax :-) Dear List, I have found that there are lots of branches in repository, see below: origin/HEAD origin/andy-tracking origin/andy-tracking-nohist origin/balaji-tracking origin/drm-tracking origin/master origin/master-nohist origin/mokopatches-tracking origin/mokopatches-tracking-nohist origin/pending-tracking origin/pending-tracking-nohist origin/proposed origin/stable origin/stable-tracking origin/stable-tracking-nohist I always use andy-tracking branch, which is supposed to be the latest, but he has left. Well, I'm quite confused which one is right for me now. Or maybe I have missed something, which is discussed earlier, if so, a link is really appreciated. Check this out: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Kernel_branches http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-November/006945.html It seems a new stable kernel might be forked from andy-tracking soon. I guess you will be on the safe side watching andy-tracking until something changes (The branch policy might be changed). Werner and collaborators who are more experienced in Git than we are have made a few suggestions. Stay tuned in the kernel list in case a change gets implemented. Nelson.- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Slashdotted
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 7:11 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: (cut) stopped making ALL phones and decided to start making shoes instead. that'd make news!. :) these things create a life of their own - if they are correct or not. the media interprets it in the way to make it as sensational as possible. sensation sells to readers. readers mean ads ... and ads are revenue. if half the worlds news was reported realistically in proportion.. you would have a pretty boring media. :) It's all about getting our attention. Everyday I'm more afraid of reading the news. I guess the press release will help. Anyway, here's another article. LinuxDevices articles are usually better. http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS8568412362.html Now I bet a candy this one will not reach slashdot's frontpage :-) N.- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Unstable] Screen blanking issue
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Cameron Frazier frazier.came...@gmail.com wrote: On the last couple SHR-Unstable updates (2 or 3), I seem to have lost the ability to have the screen power down. Suspend works quite well, nice and quick, but the screen never powers down outside of that. I've played with the timeouts for idle and the rest to no avail. Anyone have any ideas? I'd like to use my FR for OpenStreetMap work again, but without the screen powering down, I get a limited time before my FR flatlines. If it helps at all: `uname -a`: Linux om-gta02 2.6.29-rc3 #1 PREEMPT Mon Apr 6 13:47:21 CEST 2009 armv4tl unknown frameworkd version (from `opkg status`): 0.8.5.1+gitr1251+98cb27d2829179ccab6e520546de5d3b9b6104c3-r0 Does SHR unstable build daily with the latest andy-tracking kernel? If this is the case we just added this commit: http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=commitdiff;h=bd4b7e8e84ab43a13a4620b001d52d373c2122b3;hp=9c4451ff31b937a478f3d3eabef30b71cbe12b12 It might be causing the issue. If we get a confirmation we can revert it and report the issue to the submitter. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr - messages + wsod
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:51 AM, Vinzenz Hersche hers...@puzzle.ch wrote: hello there, i saw, the shr-team isn't work fast in the last weeks.. :s (most commits are 3 weeks or older) i'm now interested, when the first stable-version would be released. now, there is also the wsod back and the sms-application crashes when it should loading( the sms (works in testing but not in unstable).. Hello Vinzenz. Are you sure about the WSOD? I just tested the latest GTA02 kernel with SHR unstable and suspend/resume worked as expected. openmoko-shr-lite-image-glibc-ipk--20090414-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 Nelson.- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr - messages + wsod
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 7:51 AM, Tony Berth tonybe...@googlemail.com wrote: it is back :( I just tried with the latest image and kernel and WSOD is there! I see. WSOD could be device specific. Could you try this kernel? http://wiki.emqbit.com/tmp/uImage-moredrivers-GTA02_andy-tracking-9c4451ff31b937a4.bin It doesn't include a recent patch that touches relevant timings. http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=commit;h=bd4b7e8e84ab43a13a4620b001d52d373c2122b3 Please let us know how it works for you. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr - messages + wsod
On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 11:02 AM, ivvmm unachieva...@gmail.com wrote: Nelson Castillo wrote: On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 7:51 AM, Tony Berth tonybe...@googlemail.com wrote: it is back :( I just tried with the latest image and kernel and WSOD is there! I see. WSOD could be device specific. Could you try this kernel? http://wiki.emqbit.com/tmp/uImage-moredrivers-GTA02_andy-tracking-9c4451ff31b937a4.bin It doesn't include a recent patch that touches relevant timings. http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=commit;h=bd4b7e8e84ab43a13a4620b001d52d373c2122b3 Please let us know how it works for you. I assume it is not hardware related as I get it too. Thanks a lot for the report. The bug is now in trac: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2274 In my attempts to reproduce the bug I missed the let it cool down a little bit step. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB Kernel problem with latest SHR unstable
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 5:42 AM, Thomas Zimmermann zimmerm...@vdm-design.de wrote: Am Freitag 24 April 2009 12:20:00 schrieb Robin Paulson: 2009/4/24 Ben Thompson b...@york.ac.uk: ok, i'm confused now. why do i want to run this on my host? the problem's with the phone, isn't it? I don't know why, but the interface name on my host changed. For me it's now eth1. Check: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2009-April/005384.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Testing] Wireless Frustration - definitely a kernel problem
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 3:16 AM, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: Nicola Mfb wrote: 2009/4/28 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no: Helge Hafting wrote: [..] It is a kernel problem, because going back to the older kernel uImage-2.6.28-oe1+gitr34240a1c06ae36180dee695aa25bbae869b2aa26-r3-om-gta02.bin fixes the WIFI problem. Unfortunately, using this older kernel with SHR testing of april 22. means no usb networking instead. And no sound, so no phone either. Did you installed modules too? it works for me, I do not know if there are some changes that breaks frameworkd, but audio and usb works fine. I didn't think of that, the point was to see if WIFI would work again, and it did. So, a 2.6.29-rc3 bug was proved. But thanks for the tip, now I know what to try if the 2.6.29 wifi problem takes time to fix. Could you please report a bug? The steps to reproduce it would help a lot. Nelson.- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Testing] Wireless Frustration - definitely a kernel problem
I reported it to http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/418 I have not had time to report it anywhere else, one other person seems to have this problem with Android on top of SHR-Testing I just replicated it here: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2277 I'll test this soon. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR - Latest unstable] WSOD?
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 4:28 AM, Tony Berth tonybe...@googlemail.com wrote: Dear List, before trying out the latest unstable image, can anyone confirm if WSOD was corrected? It has been confirmed that the WSOD will not happen with Qi. It will happen with u-boot. I'm testing this now. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Testing] Wireless Frustration - definitely a kernel problem
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Nelson Castillo arhu...@freaks-unidos.net wrote: I reported it to http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/418 I have not had time to report it anywhere else, one other person seems to have this problem with Android on top of SHR-Testing I just replicated it here: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2277 I'll test this soon. In my tests WIFI didn't fail. It did fail when I was far from the AP. https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2277#comment:6 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: where to get qi from? wiki has conflicting information. and, why is 2009 not listed in distros?
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Michael Shiloh mich...@openmoko.org wrote: 1) Where is qi? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi#Installation says http://people.openmoko.org/andy/ but http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009 says http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/testing/NeoFreerunner/ which is right? Tell me and I'll correct the wiki. Hello Michael, thanks for your concern. I just put the latest Qi in this URI. http://people.openmoko.org/arhuaco/qi/latest/ I think distributors will pick the revision they feel comfortable with and it does not have to be the latest. If the latest Qi can be built automatically with existing infrastructure it will be better. I'll ask Angus and send an update as a reply to this email. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: where to get qi from? wiki has conflicting information. and, why is 2009 not listed in distros?
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Michael Shiloh mich...@openmoko.org wrote: I'm not looking for Qi, but I'm asking where should we tell people to find Qi. That is what I understood. Will it always be there? Should I change both references on the wiki to point at your directory? Not yet, let me coordinate first please. I'll update this thread soon. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: where to get qi from? wiki has conflicting information. and, why is 2009 not listed in distros?
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 8:11 PM, Michael Shiloh mich...@openmoko.org wrote: Nelson Castillo wrote: On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Michael Shiloh mich...@openmoko.org wrote: I'm not looking for Qi, but I'm asking where should we tell people to find Qi. That is what I understood. Will it always be there? Should I change both references on the wiki to point at your directory? Not yet, let me coordinate first please. I'll update this thread soon. I just got the reply. The auto-builder puts Qi here: http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/experimental/NeoFreerunner/ Right now the latest is: http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/experimental/NeoFreerunner/qi-s3c2442-1.0.2+gitr237+c2a6b7ab3df7c1b68d47769f6e35733be1eaab58.udfu I think we should use this URI. Never send a human to do a machine's job.. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: where to get qi from? wiki has conflicting information. and, why is 2009 not listed in distros?
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Max Giesbert giesb...@exactt.de wrote: actually i can't find any qi stuff in http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/experimental/NeoFreerunner/ at the moment I was told the build scripts should fill the directory... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB networking now creates eth1 on host
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 5:35 PM, reznor schumi_8_2...@gmx.de wrote: Works with Qi. You just have to know what's going on and then it's easy. That information should have been distributed a few months ago and that way that everyone gets it who uses Qi. At the fyp forums nobody seemed to know. Hello. Check this: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2009-April/005384.html Nelson.- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner's Future
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com wrote: Community, To start off I have this list of proposed FAQs kindly generated by Werner. I'm going to ask for a volunteer to incorpoate this into an appropriate place in the wiki. Any takers? Hello Steve. - How will the kernel be maintained ? I'll ask for feedback about this in the kernel mailing list and help with the FAQ wiki page (If someone else wants to help also please by all means do). I'll send the email today. Nelson.- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [gta02-core] Another statistical milestone reached
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 3:41 AM, Jakobjackram...@googlemail.com wrote: On 8/29/09, Jakob jackram...@googlemail.com wrote: hey, i'm one of them silentones and i realy appreciate the work you are doing. thanks! I'm here for the jokes! J.K. , N.- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WikiReader
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 12:51 AM, Sean Moss-Pultz s...@openmoko.com wrote: Dear Community! (cut) Sales start today at http://thewikireader.com. Enjoy. Tell your friends. And let us know what you think! I like to see it seems very simple. I hope OM sells a lot of them and that it manages to make a lot of users happy and knowledgeable :-) Congratulations. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner Review
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 11:38 AM, rakshat hooja raks...@gmail.com wrote: I have been hearing a lot of good about the phone from our freerunner customers of late (change from earlier :) SO just sharing a recent review poster by a user http://guide2freerunner.blogspot.com/ It's very nice to see recent reviews and less hate email in the lists. Something that I think and that also hear from others is that it's sad to see that OM stopped sponsoring phone development too early (when the FR was just starting to work) but we know that many companies (also individuals and countries) are having hard years. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner Review
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 1:58 AM, Wolfgang Spraul wolfg...@qi-hardware.com wrote: Nelson, Something that I think and that also hear from others is that it's sad to see that OM stopped sponsoring phone development too early (when the FR was just starting to work) but we know that many companies Totally agree with you. But the good news is that Werner continues with gta02-core, which you are probably aware of. And Sean has promised a set of 20 components for their first run. So things are moving. Oh yes. It's not really true that OM doesn't sponsor development anymore... Thanks for pointing it out. N.- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Congratulation, Wikireader! 7th in Amazon TOP 100
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org wrote: http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/electronics/172594/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_e_1_3_last Wow, just wow! Wow. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [wikireader]Error on parsing the spanish wikipedia
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 6:54 PM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com wrote: Great! :) good to see you are working on this!, please count on me for any testing to be done, I will try to make a look on the code myself to kill the bug but no time and nor expertise so no promises :P I haven't seen the code but if you don't feel like fixing it now you can add a try/catch on the block that is processing each page so that you have a wiki to play with while the error is fixed. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Understanding accelerometer data
I would recommend the python script for easy testing: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer_data_retrieval It's certainly possible that I've just written my program wrong. So yes, I'll try that script too. Here I print a direction vector (ignoring Z). It goes from 0 to 100 (instead of 0.0 to 1.0) to avoid floating point. It updates rather fast. http://svn.arhuaco.org/svn/src/openmoko/accelerometers/dir.c If I only care about this vector I think I'll use a thread to keep reading from the accels. I tried something (very fast, not polished) in Python but i feel the program lags reading the accels. http://svn.arhuaco.org/svn/src/openmoko/accelerometers/sand/sand-test.py I think I'll move to C. Nelson.- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Understanding accelerometer data
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 3:27 AM, Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com wrote: 2009/11/1 Nelson Castillo arhu...@freaks-unidos.net: Here I print a direction vector (ignoring Z). It goes from 0 to 100 (instead of 0.0 to 1.0) to avoid floating point. It updates rather fast. http://svn.arhuaco.org/svn/src/openmoko/accelerometers/dir.c If I only care about this vector I think I'll use a thread to keep reading from the accels. Fine, but have you measured what the CPU cost of that is? No. I wouldn't care much about reading 1600bytes/second in the FR from kernel buffers in a C program. read_all uses blocking reads anyway. I mean: no busy waiting here and if I use threads I don't need to use locking for the accel data. I tried something (very fast, not polished) in Python but i feel the program lags reading the accels. Does Python's read have any internal buffering (by default)? In Guile (which does) that was the cause of the lag that I saw; and when I added a call to set the buffer size to just sizeof(struct input_event), the lag disappeared. I remember that some time ago I wrote a module to check this and Python attempted a read of 32K in my PC! No matter how many bytes I was trying to read. This could be the cause if you are already experienced this. In this weblog post I just read that we have to use non-blocking I/O to avoid this problem. http://bec-systems.com/site/259/how-to-optimize-python-reads-for-general-data ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Understanding accelerometer data
I remember that some time ago I wrote a module to check this and Python attempted a read of 32K in my PC! No matter how many bytes I was trying to read. This could be the cause if you are already experienced this. In this weblog post I just read that we have to use non-blocking I/O to avoid this problem. http://bec-systems.com/site/259/how-to-optimize-python-reads-for-general-data Mmm. I guess I'd better use os.open, intender for low level use. I'll comment in the weblog post. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Wikireader]Full spanish wikipedia successfully packed but...
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:28 PM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com wrote: I have achive to run the full proccess sucsessfully, all articles are David, just out of curiosity: How long did it take? What computer did you use for this task (CPU type/speed/RAM/disk space needed)? N.- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: kernel om-gta02-2.6.31
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:28 AM, A.A. a...@email.it wrote: Hi, I downloaded the last git kernel with command: git clone git://git.openmoko.org/git/kernel.git linux-2.6 I switched to git-checkout --track -b om-gta02-2.6.31 origin/om-gta02-2.6.31 but ./build script is absent! How can I cross compile this kernel for my freerunner ? You can use the same script shipped with the andy-tracking branch. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Froyo (Android 2.2) on Freerunner????
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:42 AM, David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.com wrote: http://serdar-dere.net/~serdar/daily/ Are these images real? Are there Android 2.2 images for Freeruner? I found this thread. http://groups.google.com/group/android-on-freerunner/browse_thread/thread/a3186760922768fe/d73059e07508e7d2?lnk=gstq=froyo#d73059e07508e7d2 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
