Re: [Community Updates] 2009-11-11 released!
[cut] > I had to change a small thing, because the summary of what's going on in the > SHR land wasn't from. I just forwarded the original message from Sebastian > Spaeth :) my fault, thanks for fixing this -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Community Updates] 2009-11-25 released
Hello everybody, better late then never ;). Recent Community Update is out. Take a look at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2009-11-25 and contribute to the new draft at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2009-12-09 Thanks to all contributors: Heinervdm Rhk -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Community Updates] 2009-11-25 released
[cut] > > what is the current staus of SHR-U? Can be used as daily distro? Are > the problems fixed by now? I still have the version from September > which rather works and try to avoid potential problems. Your questions has been mostly answered on shr-user mailing list: http://lists.shr-project.org/pipermail/shr-user/2009-November/002325.html -- Patryk Benderz IT Specialist Linux Registered User #377521 +48 22 538 6292 ERSTE Securities Polska S.A. ul. Królewska 16 Warszawa 00-103 KRS 065121 NIP 526-10-27-638 REGON 011136053 Kapitał akcyjny: 15.500.000 złotych (w pełni opłacony) This message and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the addressee(s). Any publication, transmission or other use of the information by a person or entity other than the intended addressee is prohibited. If you receive this in error please contact the sender and delete the material. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions as a result of the transmission. Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[CU,Templates] DistributionBox template latest changes
Hi all, Recently wiki editor Kukide, changed DistributionBos template. It was on wiki also, thus i assume i can quote his email to me: > Hi, I change your templates > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Template:DistributionBox and rewrite on > all back-links. > I make some new templates for this page: > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions In the future if some > distribution start work on new hardware, it will be easy change in > template for this distribution and it will change on all places in > wiki. :) > > And I thing in the future distributions will work on more hardware and > it will be helpful split information about "other" device. This is a > possible on this page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Template:Works > > I hope it will be useful. > > Kukide Today i started to add some entries to Community Updates. One of them was SHR-Testing branch. I have 2 considerations about this: 1) It appeared, that after Kukide's modifications you have to add new sub-template for each new distribution, describing hardware it works on. In my opinion it is a flaw. Kukide kindly made template for SHR and few other distros, but didn't make new one for SHR-Testing. This scenario will repeat for future distributions and generates additional work for wiki editors. 2) It also appeared, that using sub-templates we loose all history of what distro's versions were working on what hardware. Example: if you modify template for lets say QtMoko v123, by adding new hardware (lets consider that QtMoko V123 works on PS3) it will appear in all previous Community Updates, that all previous versions of QtMoko starting from V1, V2,... also are working on PS3... which is not true. This is a flaw also IMHO. Conclusions: I think we should revert these changes and use old DistributionBox template. Of course keeping in mind freedom in all aspects I am asking all of you, what is your opinion (especially you Kukide) before reverting those changes. -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navigation
Dnia 2009-12-09, śro o godzinie 11:02 -0800, Mike Crash pisze: > Hello everyone, I only want to inform you, that I am working on new > navigation for the Freerunner, current name is MC Navi, but may change. Great! Looks nice :) Right on time to todays CU release. Lets put it to Community section until you release stable application. -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [H:1] New Keyboard! t9brain
Hi tony, It would be wiser to start a new thread for this. -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [H:1] New keyboard: t9brain
Dnia 2009-12-10, czw o godzinie 19:20 -0600, Esteban Monge pisze: > Why not TuxNINE? or Tux9? sounds good for me ;) -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Community Updates] 2009-12-09 released
Hello everybody, Recent Community Update is out. Take a look at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2009-12-09 and contribute to the new draft at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2009-12-23 Thanks to all contributors for buuilding this issue of CU. P.S. If it is not welcome to send a copy to Shr-User ML, please let me know. -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Autonofix à Grenoble (France)
Dnia 2009-12-11, pią o godzinie 22:19 +0100, swap38 pisze: > Hi all, > > Autonofix party this sunday (december 13) near Grenoble (France). > For more details : > http://openmoko-fr.org/blog/index.php?post/2009/12/11/Autonofix-party-%C3%A0-Grenoble > > \Swap38 Please report such events a bit earlier so people can have more time to react. -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v16
Dnia 2009-12-21, pon o godzinie 14:38 +0100, Radek Polak pisze: > Hi, > new images of QtMoko are released! They can be downloaded from sourceforge as > usually [1]. [cut] Thanks, nice Chrstmas gift ;) -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [CU,Templates] DistributionBox template latest changes
Dnia 2009-12-09, śro o godzinie 19:45 +0100, Patryk Benderz pisze: > Hi all, > Recently wiki editor Kukide, changed DistributionBos template. It was on [cut] Tomorrow is a release date for next CU and it looks like nobody (including author of the changes - Kukide) is interested in this topic. May I assume Kukide has abandoned his project of changes in Templates for DistributionBox ? -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [CU,Templates] DistributionBox template latest changes
Dnia 2009-12-22, wto o godzinie 10:57 -0500, Warren Baird pisze: > I can't speak for Kukide - but I'd agree that the changes don't seem > to make sense --- I like having a history available, and I don't think > it makes sense to have to twiddle the templates everytime a new distro > variant comes along. Hi Warren, thank you for your answer. I will wail till tomorrow just to be sure nobody feels otherwise. If not, i will revert Kukide's changes. -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Re: [CU,Templates] DistributionBox template latest changes
[cut] > 1) if I look back, yes it was me mistake > now I thing is better make Template:DistributionBox for each > distribution. It will be better for use on wiki and It will be on all > page actual Lets discuss this in separate thread, and after new year begins, as this will be long discussion I suppose, OK? > 2) If you want history what distro's versions were working on what > hardware, I thing is better start make new page on wiki call something > like: History what distributions versions working on what hardware > In this system if you wan this information, you must brows the wiki > and remember how it's changing Will you create AND *maintain* such a wiki page? If you think you have enough time to maintain another wiki page then you are welcome to do it :), but maybe you could dedicate this free time of yours to take care of many old and outdated wiki pages that need fixing? [cut] > 1) it about translating templates and using on localize page on wiki > if you use sub-templates, it will be actual also on localize page > which use translate Template:DistributionBox I think templates should be universal, not translated. This can be done, but after new year, OK? > 2) if some distributions start work on new hardware, it thing it will > be written like text on news I do not understand, please explain. > 3) I don't know, I'm not programmer... I thing the history page of > changing sub-templates can be use automatically on page: > History what distributions versions working on what hardware I do not understand. But lets leave this history stuff for now. > 4) On wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions > In the Names of Distibutions you don't use number of version And what is the question? Because i do not know if you think it is good or bad? Anyway, I'll try to explain according to my knowledge. First of all there is no section called "Names of Distributions" on this wiki page, so please be precise. I guess you are talking about "Overview" section? If you are talking about "Hardware/Works" boxes in "Overview" section, than I have to admit I didn't know that these templates are used anywhere else besides "Community Updates". Now since I know that, it changes my point of view. Those "Hardware/Works" boxes can't be used to keep history anymore. But they fit nicely to reduce amount of work for wiki editors (like us). What I do not like, is their naming schemes. Now their names suggests that these boxes shows, what software can run under some distro. Additionally you need to keep naming scheme consistent with other templates (do not use spaces). IMHO it need to be changed to reflect their purpose. Example: Template:Works on Android -> Template:AndroidSupportedHardware Template:Works_on_Debian -> Template:DebianSupportedHardware Template:Works on Gentoo -> Template:GentooSupportedHardware ... Do you mind if I ask you to rename these templates according to these examples? In order to help you within this work, I will add these templates to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Templates page, as they are not listed there. Oops, I forgot to add Template:DistributonBox also, mea culpa. Does everyone agree for this solution? > 5) News can use Distributions box and under him write changes > now is change in DistributonBox and it make this template useful only > for news page I assume you want to make separate Template:DistributonBox for each distro? Lets discuss this in separate thread, and after new year begins, as this will be long discussion I suppose, OK? > I hope some of me ideas it will be useful. > Kukide Indeed, ideas were useful. Thanks -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [H:1] New keyboard: t9brain
Dnia 2009-12-10, czw o godzinie 12:49 -0500, Tony McKeehan pisze: > Sorry, didn't realize that the mailing list handled it like that... > (resending) > > > Screenshots from rev4 [1] [2] > > I've made a new keyboard, built specifically for the Hackable:1 distro. [cut] Hi Tony, I am preparing CU release and was wondering if you considered renaming your keyboard name from T9keyboard to TuxNINE ro Tux9 or similar? Please let us know what name of your keyboard should we put into CU. In a meantime i will put all three. -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v15
Dnia 2009-12-17, czw o godzinie 02:20 -0800, ghislain pisze: > I just created another installer-image, > http://www.openmobile.nl/pages/downloads.php#qtm15b QtMoko V15B (so one can > choose which is preferred), these are the changes: > * Upgraded 'pkg-fso-keyring' to '2009.09.12' > * gpsd installed > * Working TangoGPS > * Working Navit > * Enabled GSM multiplexing > * Added SMS-Receive bug-fix Hi thanks for this installer. I had trouble with finding english version of your page, thus I have a question. Does thia installer works only for SD card , or do you provide .jffs images somewhere? -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Android Cupcake V22 installer-image
Dnia 2009-12-30, śro o godzinie 01:35 -0800, ghislain pisze: > http://panicking.kicks-ass.org/blog/index.php Penguin Embedded has created a > new version of Android Cupcake. I've created an installer-image for it, it > can be dowloaded here: http://www.openmobile.nl/pages/downloads.php#av22 > Android-Cupcake-V22 . [cut] Hi Ghislain, does this installer includes FCSE patches from ARM ML, recently added by Michael Trimarchi? -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Community Updates] 2009-12-31 released.
Hello everybody, recent Community Update is out and ready! Take a look at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/current and contribute to the new draft at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2010-01-14 -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: RPN Calculator application available
[cut] > Blog post (with links): http://glitch.tl/mkrpn.html Hi Michael, on your blog, there is a link to 0.3 version. I suppose this is testing? -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: RPN Calculator application available
[cut] > 0.3 is the latest and the best. I kept working on it after I posted to > the list. Please tell me how you go with it. No go at all. I am not testing it, just putting an entry in Community Updates to let people who do not read ML, know about your app. If you say 0.3 is better, than I'll put it to CU. -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: RPN Calculator application available
[cut] > Are you the contact for community updates? partially yes, but I am not the only one. CU as it's name says are written by many contributors (take a look on CU edit history if you want details). > I plan to release new versions of this application and to develop > others. I can point you to an RSS feed where I will post changes if > that is a good way to work. IMHO the best way would be to post RSS feed on this ML, so other CU contributors could take advantage of it also. -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Happy New Year from FSO
[cut] > Let me also remind you that we have a PayPal account for donations, > and HI Mickey, I was looking at > (1) http://www.ohloh.net/p/fso but wasn't able to find PayPal account for FSO. Can you provide this data? But don't get too excited, currently I need this for CU. BTW, are you really only one person developing/rewriting FSO to Vala? -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Community Updates] 2010-01-14 released
Hello everybody, Recent Community Update is out. Take a look at "News" link in "Community" box on wiki pages to read it. For your convenience here is direct link: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2010-01-14 and contribute to the new draft at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2010-01-28 Thanks to all contributors of this issue of CU: * PaulWise * Kichkasch * Multi * Baba melone * Vanous * Valos * Bt4 * Linuxxr * Deubeuliou -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: debian/fso on freerunner
[cut] > Tell me please, I understand that debian lags behind the progress? Old > frameworkd etc, the old kernel without the new drivers for glamo, just zhone > updated ... Even I look at leading figures debian pass programs shr))) Hope > dies last))) I think QtMoko is based on Debian and works really good. But i might be wrong. -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Community Updates] 2010-01-14 released
[cut] > I know, I didn't have time to update the CU, but elmdentica's latest > release didn't show up :) Hi Rui, sorry we missed elmdentica this time, but it sometimes just happens. Can you point me to your post on ML, where you gave info about new release? Latest i could find in my mailbox is: "ElmDentica 0.7.0 is out!" dated on 2009-10-12 which is rather old. Could it be, we missed it also on previous CUs ??? If so, than I am terribly sorry, but believe me, getting all this information from many sources and combining them together sometimes is an uneasy task. Sometimes something gets lost in this process. -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Now someone REALLY has to help me!!
[cut] > 6 > Before this menu disappears, write in the desktop shell > dfu-util -d 0x1d50:0x5119 -a kernel -R -D uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin IMHO it is enough to run: # dfu-util -a kernel -R -D uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin P.S. Great tutorial - clear, simple and shows all one might need and nothing more. -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Latest SHR-?
Dnia 2010-01-28, czw o godzinie 19:22 -0500, Tony McKeehan pisze: > I heard somewhere that there are some SHR-stable images on the way. Probably you could have read it on latest Community Updates page > Have they been released? AFAIK no, they are still waiting for final bug reports for SHR-Testing. You could help with releasing SHR-Stable by filing bug reports to http://www.shr-project.org/trac . Until these bug reports are finished there will be no stable version. -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Latest SHR-?
Dnia 2010-01-29, pią o godzinie 15:11 +0800, William Kenworthy pisze: > Interesting - cant say Ive noticed anything bad - quite the reverse. Try image generated on 2010-01-15, it was totally unresponsive and slow. -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] [Community Updates] 2010-01-14 released
Dnia 2010-01-29, pią o godzinie 13:58 +0100, Vaudano Luca pisze: > Hello! > > A little note: the Openmoko homepage doesn't show this CU in the > 'Latest news' section. Thanks, just corrected. BTW, we could think of some kind of triggering to move stuff automatically... -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QGPSLog to be released
[cut] > When I have released v0.2 I'll send bb recipe to shr-devel, so it might get > integrated... Hi Christian, is this version already released? (I need info for CU). http://openmoko.senfdax.de/shr-new-unstable/qgpslog_0.2.0-r0.4_armv4t.ipk -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OM future
[cut] > or... you wait a little bit and see what's around the corner and brewing... > and > trust me... stuff *IS* brewing at much bigger device makers than openmoko ever > was - who have the money and people to pull it off. keep your ears peeled. Hi Rasterman, hmm... is it regarded to enlightment and/or samsung? -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Community Updates] 2010-01-14 released
[cut] > could please people stop editing released updates? (meaning adding new > stuff, don't mean fixing links and typos). [cut] Until now i found, that in order to get rid of adding new content to released CUs, you have to look at history of changes, and sent a message to a person who made a change, explaining this is a wrong way to do it, and point that person to current CU's draft. This was always working for me. -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANN] Openmobility 2010 in Czech Republic + buzz & recamping fix party
[cut] > Web: http://mobility.openmoko.cz/ Looks like it is only Czech / Slovak conference? No english talks? -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[CU] application sections
Hi everyone, looking back in time, when most of applications were distributed as .ipk packages, there was a reason for "application updates" section of CUs, to exist. In present days, most of applications with their bitbake recipes are fairly quickly added to particular OS repositories. According to this, all users upgrading their OS, upgrades their applications also. Also keep in mind that filling this section with data takes a significant amount of time. Thus a question arises: Is it still necessary to keep "Application updates" alive? P.S.This question does NOT include "New Applications" section. -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[CU] release cycle question
Hello Community, looking back at release dates history of last few Community Updates, you can notice several release delays. This might show, that present 2 weeks release cycle might be too short. Current CU draft [1] is very good example - already delayed 10 days. Although present release cycle is not hardly fixed on 2-week basis, but rather flexible, I propose to extend "official" CUs release cycle to 3 weeks or even one month. What is your opinion, guys? [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2010-01-28 -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Community Updates] released
Hello everybody, Recent Community Update is out. Take a look at "News" link in "Community" box on wiki pages to read it. For your convenience here is direct link: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2010-02-10 and contribute to the new draft at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2010-03-01 Thanks to all contributors of this issue of CU: * Nhv * Jonci * /me is immodest ;) -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: upcoming linux phones ...
Dnia 2010-02-11, czw o godzinie 19:51 +1100, Carsten Haitzler pisze: > On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:13:43 +0100 "RzR www.rzr.online.fr" > said: > > > Hi, If it helps > > samsung announced bada few mounth ago > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bada_%28operating_system%29 > > > > but the SDK is not yet public to everyone ...too bad > > I wish I can test this and review it , did you test it ? can you > speak > > about it ? > > bada != linux at all. dont bother following it. looks for limo > instead. well, is wiki mentioned above wrong? First sentence says: "bada (pronounced /ˈbɑːdɑː/) is a Linux-based mobile operating system" -- Patryk Benderz IT Specialist Linux Registered User #377521 +48 22 538 6292 ERSTE Securities Polska S.A. ul. Królewska 16 Warszawa 00-103 KRS 065121 NIP 526-10-27-638 REGON 011136053 Kapitał akcyjny: 15.500.000 złotych (w pełni opłacony) This message and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the addressee(s). Any publication, transmission or other use of the information by a person or entity other than the intended addressee is prohibited. If you receive this in error please contact the sender and delete the material. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions as a result of the transmission. Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: upcoming linux phones ...
[cut] > Also, that's not what Raster is working on. No one knows what it is but > only that he says it's very cool and not out. IIRC he works on enlightment? -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtmoko] New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner
[cut] > This is an installer-image which will flash to nand, but you can flash to > nand using dfu-util by flashing the files 'kernel.img' (== uImage) and > 'rootfs.img' (== jffs2). > > Ghislain And which of files is kernel with nodebug? -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtmoko] New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner
Dnia 2010-02-12, pią o godzinie 04:57 -0800, Alishams Hassam pisze: > On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 13:39 +0100, Patryk Benderz wrote: > > [cut] > > > This is an installer-image which will flash to nand, but you can flash to > > > nand using dfu-util by flashing the files 'kernel.img' (== uImage) and > > > 'rootfs.img' (== jffs2). > > > > > > Ghislain > > And which of files is kernel with nodebug? > > > It's kernel.img Thanks, I made little test. I used this kernel with SHR-T. System loaded fast (~30s) , applications loads fast, but all graphics related activities like screen scrolling are painfully slow and look like a slide show. Would you kindly advise me a better nodebug kernel for tests with SHR-T? -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: elm_browser initial release
[cut] > Not everyone uses the card all the time, so ~/Downloads would be > better. You can symlink that to whatever you wish (like it used to be > in TangoGPS). Symlink is a good idea - I use it since "ages" but wouldn't ~/Maps folder fit better for this? -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v19
[cut] > But i hope someone will do ;-) I can help as beta-tester, or helping on > documentation, not more. Lets strike while the iron is hot! QtMoko's wiki [1] probably needs attention, also there is not a single mention about this distro in Distributions page [2]! If you really want to help you can start here. [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/QtMoko [2] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT] Now someone REALLY has to help me!!
Dnia 2010-03-18, czw o godzinie 04:50 -0800, Märta pisze: > Ok now I'm back. Hi Märta, > The tips you gave me were very helpful so now I'm a proud > SHR Stable-user ehm, there is no SHR Stable yet, or did I messed something? -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is Neo Freerunner a phone?
[cut] > I gave up on this quest a few months back and bought an n900. I love > it - it has all of the advantages I liked about the FR (can ssh into > it, run most standard linux software, etc.), *but* it works as a > phone. Sad, but true... for now. I believe it will be better :) -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MC Navi
Dnia 2010-04-01, czw o godzinie 00:31 -0800, Mike Crash pisze: > Hello, I'm going to release new version of MC Navi and I want to make maps > available for direct download. So I want to ask, what country do you need? Hi Mike, Poland please :) > > Second question - what do you prefer, car navigation or outdoor navigation? > Just to know, what to do next... Definitely car Additionally it would be great if MCNavi would read Cloudmade's maps binary format. Or generally some vector based map format. Thanks for your great work, and keep going on! -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is Neo Freerunner a phone? (with Android)
[cut] > Last night it just keep charging. It was on 100%, so I just unplug it. > In the morning, when I connected the charger, it booted (?!). I > checked the battery level and it was 4%. Next time I'll try to use > Cleanoid to see if it still drain the battery. I am afraid it is still draining the battery. I can use my FR for about 8~10 hours with Android - current "featured" release. -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: usb MTP on moko as responder?
[cut] > what do you think? Looks interesting, especially for synchronisation, but others with wider knowledge should say what they think about this :) -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Community Updates] 2010-04-01 is out
[cut] > Thanks to all contributors of this issue of CU: > * Zeusone > * Faltantornillos > * TimoJyrinki > * Hns > * Multi > * Vanous > * Martix > * Valos > * Kichkasch Thanks guys :) [cut] -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The Origin of the Freerunner Shape!
Dnia 2010-04-13, wto o godzinie 10:08 +0200, Vladimir Koutny pisze: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > > I have finally found where the shape and visual appearance of the > > Neo1973 and Freerunner come from: > > For those without google earth: > > http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=54.897579,23.882423&z=16&t=h&hl=en Thanks Vladimir -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Community Updates 2010-05-01 released
> * Kukide > * Martix > * Multi > * Valos > * Faltantornillos > * Booxter > * Toams Thanks everybody :) -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANN] Community Updates 2010-06-01 released!
Dnia 2010-06-02, śro o godzinie 19:53 +0200, Martix pisze: > Hello, > > New issue of Community Updates is released: > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2010-06-01 > Thanks to following contributors: > > * Toams > * Kukide > * M4rtink > * Marko Knöbl > * Jama > * Martix [cut] Thanks for your work guys! -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: HTC patent application for Joerg's Y-cable?
Dnia 2010-06-05, sob o godzinie 13:08 +0100, Al Johnson pisze: > It hasn't been granted yet, and the Y-cable was around before it was filed, > but perhaps not by long enough. [cut] Should we be afraid of this patent? Is it used in FR? -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[qtmoko v24] terminal-only after flashing
Hi All, Long time I didn't installed QtMoko. Lately, after flashing recent QtMoko v24 or v23 into NAND I get only terminal with login prompt after boot. I am also having trouble with reaching FR over ssh. With v24 I was able to set up usb0 interface with correct address and routing, but FR didn't respond to ping/nmap/ssh With v23 i get ethX interface with correct address and routing but also no luck with reaching FR. Any hints on what to search for next? -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtmoko v24] terminal-only after flashing
Radek, Alex, first of all, tanks for your hints, and for future reference, below is an explanation what probably was wrong. Few hours after my initial post I found some time and have flashed SHR. The result was identical. This gave me idea to check the boot loader, which appeared to be lucky shot. After flashing qi-s3c2442-1.0.2+gitr3b8513d8b3d9615ebda605de4bda18371aa3f359.udfu all came back to normal state - QtMoko & SHR are booting normally. The boot loader which caused troubles was the one installed with Android SD_install_card. I can't determine precise version now, as I have wiped it out :) -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: sd performance tests, bonnie++ with different filesystems.
[cut] > All tests were done on .34, yesterday git (with FIFO LCM patch). Short > tests algorithm: for each fs: create fs on same mmc partition, mount > (with noatime) and run bonnie in mounted directory, then umount. I did > two runs to ensure results are sane. Great work Gennady! Just two questions. Is it possible to tune these file systems to achieve better results? What does "% CPU" field name stands for? Is it CPU load or idle? -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New SHR-unstable images with 2.6.32 kernel
[cut] > AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/glamo_dri.so failed > (/usr/lib/dri/glamo_dri.so: undefined symbol: _glapi_tls_Context) > That one is from /var/log/Xorg.0.log > > fsousaged : Can't > read-open /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-resume.0/resume_reason: > No such file or directory > And that one is from fsousaged. Hi Vladimir, please report bugs to http://www.shr-project.org/trac/report -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: cpu reclocking to 500Mhz, overclocking to 533Mhz, performance tests and bootloader images
[cut] > I suspend my phone when I booted from u-boot, it won't resume... I'm using a > QtMoko installation on my SD card, I haven't tried QtMoko on NAND-flash yet > (can anyone confirm it should work?). Hi, I am using QtMoko on non-overclocked FR from NAND and it suspends/resume fine. -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[ANN][CU] 2010-07-01 released!
Hello everybody, recent Community Update is out. Take a look at "News" link in "Community" box on the left pane of wiki pages to read, or use direct link below: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2010-02-10 >From now, contribute to the new draft at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2010-08-01 Thanks to all contributors of this issue of CU: * Martix * Toams * Blat * Multi (special thanks for tracking down spammers) * TimoJyrinki * Jama * Hum * Leadman Regards, P.S.What mail's subject tags would best fit your needs? I am asking because apparently it keeps changing over time... -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] [ANN][CU] 2010-07-01 released!
Dnia 2010-07-07, śro o godzinie 16:18 +0200, Patryk Benderz pisze: > Hello everybody, > recent Community Update is out. Take a look at "News" link in > "Community" box on the left pane of wiki pages to read, or use direct > link below: > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2010-02-10 Of course, as JaMa noticed, correct link is: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2010-07-01 Independent of this, "News" link on wiki pages should have worked ok. -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] [Community Updates] 2010-08-01 is out
[cut] > Thanks for the latest edition to: > - Martix > - Sre > - Hns > - TimoJyrinki > - Cmair Thanks guys! Although QtMoko v24 was released and described in June: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2010-06-01 -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QI Bootloader with overclocked settings
Dnia 2010-08-16, pon o godzinie 09:29 +0200, Rashid pisze: > Hi guys, there is a very interessting overclocked article in the wiki. > http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2010-June/062385.html Just to clear this out, it's not wiki. It is Gennady's Kupava email to community@lists.openmoko.org mailing list with Message-id: <1277764835.20694.294.ca...@work.bsdmn.ru> -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WikiReader sales and the future of Openmoko
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> and finally Google ("one ring to bind them all") the drum-beater. But
> like a lot of drum-beaters, they could only beat the drumthey were
> bound by contracts and agreements to do things. Even the mighty Google
> can not do everything they want to do.
Great summary :)
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Re: no ButtonPress and ButtonRelease tslib touchscreen events in xorg
Dnia 2010-08-23, pon o godzinie 23:27 +0200, Johannes Schauer pisze: > meh... never mind :/ > this is the third problem i had today that occupied me for hours > until i gave up and asked s.o. which resulted in me finding the > solution by myself only minutes later... > the problem was that i was still using tslib driver - using evdev > fixed it :) thanks for sharing! -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko Virtual Memory
Dnia 2010-09-01, śro o godzinie 10:50 +0200, Nashvin Gangaram pisze: > Hi Hi, this question should go to supp...@lists.openmoko.org > I was just experimenting the other day, trying to configure my Neo > Freerunner with QtMoko v24 to use Virtual Memory. I created a swap > partition on my MicroSDHC Card, using GParted on PC. I notice than on > startup, there is something like a "Activating Swap Configuration... > failed" message. So, I just had a couple of questions: > * Is it possible for QtMoko to use a swap partition on the SD > Card? IIRC, yes > * How can this be done? AFAIR, you can set this in /etc/fstab as /dev/mmcblk0p4 > * Does swap cause a significant performance increase with > QtMoko? IMHO, just a little performance gain. If you use logging, set /var/log to your uSD. -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using freerunner as webcam display
Dnia 2010-09-03, pią o godzinie 13:52 +0200, Alexander Lehner pisze: > Hi, > > I've got a TrentNET wireless webcam and just found out how to access its > mpeg4 video stream and am using now my GPS-broken freerunner as permanent > display for this webcam: > > mplayer -nosound -vf rotate=2 -vo fbdev rtsp://:554/mpeg4 Nice one :). > I had to turn down the cam's fps to 2 for a real-time video without delay. Did you discovered what is the bottleneck? -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using freerunner as webcam display
[cut] > I think it's the CPU which is around 90% already at 2fps. > Another problem is, that the mpeg stream sometimes seems to be corrupt > which crashess mplayer after some time. > So I did a 'while true; do mplayer...; done' around and set codecs and > other parameters by hand to avoid the autodetection. Keep in mind that there are several versions of mplayer compiled. Each of them are better suited for different video formats or other factors: There is some special version of mplayer with glamo support: http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/mplayer-glamo.tar.bz2 Also PaulTT has compiled a version of mplayer with tremor available: http://www.paultt.org/downloads/openmoko/mplayer_dev-SVN-r29155-4.1.2_armv4t.ipk Or you can use one from FSO: http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-unstable/feeds/armv4t/mplayer_0.0+1.0rc2-r12_armv4t.ipk I have seen a note on wiki that says: "The kernel is now (July 2010) configured to use kernel-mode switching (kms) for glamo. The glamo video driver has no direct control over glamo anymore and cannot use accelerated video playing until a new driver is written." http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Video_Player Hope this will help you. Cheers. -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v26
[cut] > Hi Thomas, > if you are you running from NAND it could be because apt-get uses mmap which Hi Radek, could this also trigger this bug? http://bugs.qtmoko.org/view.php?id=175 [cut] -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Happy Programmers' Day!
Best wishes to all of you guys writing code or filing bug reports for FreeRunner devices! :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programmer_Day -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: My N900 experience compared to my FR experience
Dnia 2010-09-14, wto o godzinie 15:12 -0700, Brolin Empey pisze: > Brolin Empey wrote: > > I have been using Maemo 5 on my N900 for a few weeks now. So far, my > > N900 experience is *far* better than my FR experience. > > That was true about my N900 experience until the end of August, [cut] Hi Brolin, how about asking those questions on N900 Support mailing list? -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: My N900 experience compared to my FR experience
[cut] > so it will stop working? > he he. nice ;) -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: dbus moving into kernel?
Dnia 2010-09-16, czw o godzinie 17:23 +0100, Al Johnson pisze: > kdbus is proof-of-concept at the moment, the idea being to reduce the number > of context switches needed for each dbus message. One synthetic benchmark > shows a 3x speed increase on the n900 but speedup in real world applications > seems much more modest. There are a lot of complaints about Dbus IPC. That makes me wonder why people don't use one of already existing kernel IPCs [1][2] , and instead try to develop another one, which is not secure as I heard? [1] http://tldp.org/LDP/lpg/node7.html [2] http://tldp.org/LDP/tlk/ipc/ipc.html -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: dbus moving into kernel?
Dnia 2010-09-20, pon o godzinie 11:32 +0100, Tilman Baumann pisze: > Patryk Benderz wrote: > > Dnia 2010-09-16, czw o godzinie 17:23 +0100, Al Johnson pisze: > >> kdbus is proof-of-concept at the moment, the idea being to reduce the > >> number > >> of context switches needed for each dbus message. One synthetic > >> benchmark > >> shows a 3x speed increase on the n900 but speedup in real world > >> applications > >> seems much more modest. > > > > There are a lot of complaints about Dbus IPC. That makes me wonder why > > people don't use one of already existing kernel IPCs [1][2] , and > > instead try to develop another one, which is not secure as I heard? > > [1] http://tldp.org/LDP/lpg/node7.html > > [2] http://tldp.org/LDP/tlk/ipc/ipc.html > > Actually, netlink comes to mind as a transport layer for something like dbus. > It can not all that dbus can, but most of those so called features are > actually a total wank anyway. At least it would scale. > But I suppose this discussion was lost when dbus was new and it is > pointless these days. Dbus will probably have a successor some day, and > with any luck it will have more sane foundations... > > Actually, dbus is not that bad. Some of the things it can do require a > approach like they took. Question is, should we have sacrificed those > features on the alter of simplicity? I'm not even sure I have a answer to > that... Nor do I. However I suppose Dbus should have been designed and built conforming to Unix Philosophy [1], and it seems it was not. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_philosophy -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko v27
[cut] > Also it can compare only system clock with RTC, so we always assume that > system time is correct. Calypso time - do we need it at all? Maybe to correct drifting RTC? -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] log of in/out SMS and calls
Dnia 2010-09-25, sob o godzinie 09:25 +0200, Matthias Apitz pisze: > Hello, > > Is there some log file of send/received SMS and calls in the FR in > release [Om2008.9]? Hi Matthias, I do not know the answer for your question, but you definitely should move to some newer distro. -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] log of in/out SMS and calls
[cut] > Why I should do this if the [Om2008.9] works for me? Well, if you have such a minimalistic demands... there is no point - but this means you are not an ordinary user of this phone and I made such assumption while answering your previous mail, which apparently was wrong. -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WikiReader / PDF, TXT or HTML?
Dnia 2010-09-29, śro o godzinie 12:45 +0200, Angel Martin Alganza pisze: > Hello, > > Is it possible to read other information (apart from Wikipedia I ain't no clue, but would be nice to have *nix ManReader :) Very often I am forced to work on systems where man pages are not installed. Such device with all man pages contained would be very helpful. Maybe someone skilled enough will do it some day... -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Devroom for FOSDEM11
Dnia 2010-09-30, czw o godzinie 00:41 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra pisze: > How about: > > "Talks about the past, present and future of hackable mobile devices, > respective development platforms and communities" Much better :) [cut] -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Voicerecording software needed
Dnia 2010-10-05, wto o godzinie 09:36 +0200, Nashvin Gangaram pisze: > "Voice Notes" in QtMoko works well. Really? Does it start recording automatically when specified phone number is calling? I doubt it... -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Voicerecording software needed
Dnia 2010-10-06, śro o godzinie 09:49 +0200, Patryk Benderz pisze: > Dnia 2010-10-05, wto o godzinie 09:36 +0200, Nashvin Gangaram pisze: > > "Voice Notes" in QtMoko works well. > Really? Does it start recording automatically when specified phone > number is calling? I doubt it... I am sorry, I have somehow misinterpreted subject of this post. My previous sentence regarded callrecording software, which is apparently absent in functionality I need. Of course "Voice Notes" are working more than fina as pure _voice_ recording software. Again my apologies :) -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] qi-bootmenu-0.2
Dnia 2010-10-06, śro o godzinie 21:55 +0200, Marc Andre Tanner pisze: > Hi, > > I finally had some time to hack on qi-bootmenu the result is > a new 0.2 release [cut] Great! Shouldn't it also go to annou...@lists.openmoko.org -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [GTA04] When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing
[cut] > I will keep you updated. > > Nikolaus Thanks for sharing this, do you have some photos of this board? Looking forward to hear more! :) -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: backup battery and case screws questions
Dnia 2010-10-23, sob o godzinie 20:44 -0400, Benjamin Deering pisze: > Hi, > > Both of my Freerunners lose the time when the battery is removed for > even a couple seconds. I am assuming this is due to worn out backup > batteries. Is there any backup battery? I was sure there was none by design - my FR lost RTC since i bought it, even when I removed battery for just a few seconds. -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [GTA04] When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing
[cut] > for the light of our leds we could make grids and holes... or we could > also do an all transparent case (I'd love to see trough to view the > electronic inside) Like this idea :) -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [GTA04] When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing
[cut] > To say more of the price, it is necessary to have the design available. This question you asked Boudewijn, is very important. Nikolaus, do you have some design available for preview? If so, I could also make a research in Poland, how much would it cost? -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [GTA04] When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing
[cut] > Our results so far (I can't share all of them): > > STL + Silicone moulds: 2000 EUR setup + 50 EUR each every 100 units > Injection Moulds: 25000 EUR setup + 20 EUR per unit > 3D-Printing: no setup, 400 EUR every unit (quality doubtful) > Milling from ABS block: no setup, 500 EUR every unit > > So 1-10 units does not come below 250 EUR. 100 units may come to 70 EUR. > 1000 units to 45 EUR. 10k to 22.50 EUR. You see the volume effect and > clear preference of injection moulds. Which also give best quality... Could you estimate how many units do you want to produce? [cut] -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: busted moko, anyone want it?
Dnia 2010-10-25, pon o godzinie 14:07 -0700, jeremy jozwik pisze: > so. my moko is broko. screen has a nick in it, usb connector broke off > and was poorly soldered back on, a switch to the micro sd is broken > off and it will not boot. > > right now it is in a box next to my computer. anyone want it for > something other then collecting dust? Hi Jeremy, I just hope, despite of your loss, you will stay tuned, and help our community. AFAIR you had some good ideas in the past :) -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko v28
Dnia 2010-10-20, śro o godzinie 11:12 +0200, Radek Polak pisze: > Hi, > there is now new v28 release of qtmoko ready for downloading flashing and > testing. You can download it from our sourceforge page under "Experimental" Great job Radek! Just one makes me wonder... is alsa-utils hold back on purpose?: neo:~# apt-get upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following packages have been kept back: alsa-utils 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko v28
[cut] > Yes, the package in debian lenny has stupid dependencies on python and i > wanted to avoid it, so i am installing slighlty modified alsa-utils with dpkg > to avoid this dependency. damn... I have a habit to upgrade everything just after installation... well, I assume I can live with that alsa-utils version? -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [GTA04] When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing
[cut] > Since it seems so hard to have a custom made case, why not use an > existing case for a HTC, nokia, iphone or the like? > (or a chinese replica) > The layout of the PCB needs to be alltered ofcourse, but it seems that > it might be an easier thing to do. > Just my 2 cents. Do you have someone in china to know if this option would be have better quality/price ratio? P.S.please cut posts -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [GTA04] When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing
[cut] > The first is: which one should we take? There are many candidates... Did you looked for "Universal mobile phone casing" - maybe this would fit in? I am pretty sure, once upon time I found something like this, produced by Chinese manufacturers. [cut] > Finally, it might become quite tricky to design a new PCB that fits into > their cases because they > use even more special tools and components than the Openmoko design does. If > you look > inside such a device they sometimes e.g. have multiple PCBs interconnected by > Flex PCBs. > Or they have custom designed connectors, buttons, springs, screws etc. Which > is no problem > if they produce 1 million units per month. > > Sean has given us a very important learning: we should use catalog components > (e.g. DigiKey, > Farnell, Mouser, RS-Components) as good as possible. Unfortunately they don't > have a > smartphone case. But they have conector and Flex and so on, right? -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtmoko] Strange display on v28 with jitterless kernel
[cut] > Hm, this seem more general problem with ts driver, not really related to > jitterless patch - if you suspend while holding ts, ts driver seem hang. hmm, seems that I am unable to suspend v28 while holding TS down. Any hint how to reproduce? -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Someone is trying to patent Quickwriting
Dnia 2010-11-09, wto o godzinie 08:37 -0700, Jeff Sadowski pisze: > 8open didn't seem to be that great of improvement over the standard > keypad 2=abc 3=def ... maybe just rearrange the letters on each key so > that the more common ones come first anyway, "common" is relative to used language. If what you is true, than patent should not be granted. -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] [e-users] Someone is trying to patent Quickwriting
Dnia 2010-11-23, wto o godzinie 09:13 +0100, Daniele Ricci pisze: > Hello Carsten, thanks for your reply. > > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 08:02, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > themselves. they are forgeable. if you have an overwhelming set of such data > > from multiple sources and witness statements with signatures on actual > > paper, > > then you have something beginning to be believable. > > > > What kind of proof do I exactly need? I mean, all I have is prof. > Perlin Quickwriting page: > http://www.mrl.nyu.edu/projects/quikwriting/ I found something interesting... "If you are interested in licensing this technology for commercial use, please contact licens...@cat.nyu.edu". Is it possible they have already patented this? Regarding contacts with Ken Perlin, he claims he works at: Games For Learning Institute New York University 715 Broadway 12th floor New York, NY 10003, USA T: (+1) 212.998.2242 F: (+1) 212.995.4122 so you can try to reach him by phone or by fax. -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] [e-users] Someone is trying to patent Quickwriting
Dnia 2010-11-24, śro o godzinie 09:56 +0100, Thibaut Girka pisze: > Le mercredi 24 novembre 2010 à 09:18 +0100, Patryk Benderz a écrit : > > Well, I do for example. Looking at the title of patent, it seems that > > 8pen is French based company. Following google hits I fount French > > patent office: > > http://www.inpi.fr/ > > But here after struggling for a while looking for English version, I > > decided to ask If any of you guys know French language and could help to > > find this patent (1058945 ) in patent office? > > I'm French, and after a quick search, I couldn't find this patent. > Furthermore, I doubt INPI would accept this, it's about industrial > patents, we don't have things like software patents. I made another attempt to look for this patent at http://www.epo.org/ and http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/index.jsp but failed here also. Any ideas where to find this patent? There is one more strangeness, looking at their schematic drawings, it looks like this patent application is not finished yet. Maybe they have not applied it yet? Another fact is that they are decided to distribute their software for free: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Android-Input-App-8pen-Is-Now-Free-for-Download-166085.shtml http://www.coveringweb.info/2010/11/android-input-app-8pen-is-now-free-for.html -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Christmas offer Freerunner 199 eur
Dnia 2010-11-22, pon o godzinie 08:34 +0100, Christoph Pulster pisze: > We are selling the Openmoko for 199 eur as special christmas offer. The company? hmm... interesting offer to consider ;) Sorry Christoph, I couldn't stop myself -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Interesting new 'Open' Hardware & how do I build shr for it?
[cut] > community now. They claim to be 'open' - maybe the community can see > if they truly are. I am not an expert in this matter, but it looks like they provide only electronic schematics. What would be more useful are PCB layouts and some CAD casing drawings. You could compare this to such a situation: I wrote an application and I claim it is open source because I gave you block diagram of how it works. And what about the source code? ;) I know this somehow irrelevant but couldn't find better example. If you want to know more and better ask on gta02-c...@lists.openmoko.org . It is low traffic now, but I believe those brains working on the project are still reading this list. -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: wiki down?
Dnia 2010-12-13, pon o godzinie 20:50 +0100, Petr Vanek pisze: > Anyone knows what happened to the wiki.openmoko.org? I have no clue what was wrong, but it is up and running again. -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtmoko repos
Dnia 2010-12-14, wto o godzinie 19:31 -0600, Kosa pisze: > He there! First of all THANK YOU for working on qtMoko. It works great. > > Next, I wonder how dangerous it might be to change to squeeze repos. I'm > not thinkig about an apt-get dist-upgrade, Well, I do not know if it is supported, but I made apt-get update and dist-upgrade once and it worked :) > but there are a few apps > (like pidgin) I would like to get from there. AFAIK you can easily install standard apps, however they need to be prepared for small screen - at least I imagine that. -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] some advertising
[cut] > ps if you don't like/have flash > http://pare.sylvain.perso.sfr.fr/video/FRvsP2.ogg I really appreciate this, thanks (.ogg) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: moko v32 (experimental)
[cut] > Anyone invloved with this, please email me for FREE accessories, > I want to supply you guys with goodies. This is what I can do at least. Good idea Christoph! This should motivate more people to contribute :) -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: New theme by a french ..
[cut] > > Hello (sorry, i'am french), > > > > I am currently working on a theme for QtMoko. > > > > I have some questions to continue but I will first present it to > > you. [cut] Hi Radek, why don't you encourage this guy to subscribe to community@lists.openmoko.org ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
