Wireless providers in the US
Could those of you in the US, who have the prior phone,and who plan to get the new one, share what providers you are using? Also, any details would be great. I am going to be leaving Sprint, and ditching my Treo 650 for the new phone. It is very exciting, but I am a little lost as to what all my options are. It is further complicated by the way in the US everyone seems to offer regionally based plans, rather than having the same plans available throughout the country. I am in the D.C. area. Thanks P.S. My intended uses are as a phone, as a modem or tethering device for my laptop, as a web browser when I am on the road, for calendar and such, for texting. I am interested in GPS features as well. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Very interested onlooker
Hello everyone, I have been on this list a few days and thought it only decent to introduce my presence. I am using Linux (Mandrake, now Mandriva) since 1999 and discovered the Freerunner at about the same time that rumours started to appear about what is now the Android phone platform. So far I have not gotten either a Freerunner, but with the latest things around Android I am more moving towards the OpenMoko concept. At this moment I use a Qtek WinMo PDA/Phone. I don't call or SMS a lot, I mainly use it for addresses, agenda and some text editting. I have some big questions concerning the Freerunner, and I hope someone here is able to tell me the answers: Is the Freerunner able to run a PIM-like application (if so, what would that be)? Would I be able to take calls through Bluetooth (I have a Parrot Minikit handsfreeset in the car)? Is there a possibility to install, for instance, Abiword on the Freerunner? I have seen in the archives and on the Wiki that people have installed Gentoo and Debian on the MicroSD card, so that sounds positive. Looking forward to your responses, and hoping they are all positive!! The Freerunner videos on Youtube that I have seen so far look very promising. :-) Paul Netherlands -- Judge a tree from its fruit; not from the leaves. -Euripedes http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Very interested onlooker
Hello Minh (and others) Trolltech ported Qtopia to the FIC Neo Freerunner and 1973 phone, I have never read about anybody daring to use evolution or kontact. From what I have seen online, about Qtopia, it looks good. Thank you. Don't expect that to work automagically. Pairing with a Bluetooth handsfreeset and routing GSM to it can be made to work. Here is the recipe: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_Bluetooth#Headset_Audio Great, that looks like it's feasible. No rocket science. I have not read anything about Abiword on FreeRunner. Why anyone would use a smartphone for wordprocessing is beyond the understanding of mere a mortal like me. You need a real keyboard to do any serious typing. *grin* I need something to write on for some daily scribbles, like a short journal, once in a while. Abiword is not necessary, I don't need a full fledged wordprocessor. Just was wondering. I think I have enough info now, for which I thank you very much! Paul (off to order a Freerunner...) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: dead battery
Joel Newkirk wrote: A desktop charger for a Nokia BL-5c or BL-6c battery will do the job, at least the two non-Nokia ones I've tried. I've done it a few times. I've never let it sit on the charger until full, so I don't know if the charger can recognize full charge on the FreeRunner battery or not, but left on the charger for 15-20 minutes it will boot the FreeRunner. Very useful to know, thank you. I am anxiously waiting for my FR to arrive. I wonder about something: does a FR come with charged batteries?? One would expect so, otherwise it can never be started/used. Am I correct in this? Paul -- If you reject the food, ignore the customs, fear the religion and avoid the people, you might better stay home. -James Michener http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: dead battery
Tomas Riveros Schober wrote: well whenever im hit with a dead battery i just plug the freerunner to the computer's usb port and let it sit for a few minutes then turn it on to NOR...or NAND whichever one works first Well, that is a very simple solution. :-) Thank you! Paul -- If you reject the food, ignore the customs, fear the religion and avoid the people, you might better stay home. -James Michener http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Guess what...
My Freerunner is here! :-) Must go play! -- No army can withstand the strength of an idea whose time has come. -Victor Hugo http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Guess what...
And don't forget to fix bugs as much as possible ;) LOL!! First bug is already there: I powered down the phone (Power Down GSM Antenna). Now... Power-up GSM Antenna does not bring my phone back up... How do I do that? (FR is still charging) Do I need to power down and boot up again? *grin* Paul -- No army can withstand the strength of an idea whose time has come. -Victor Hugo http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Where is the SD card...
I have so far successfully gotten things to work (phone works again after reboot), ssh works and all that. I just can't figure out which device is the SD card (I want to put Qtopia on that). The devices I see are: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/dev# ls MAKEDEV kmemmtd5 ram ram9tty4 XOR kmsgmtd5ro ram0ramdisk ttySAC0 adsplog mtd6 ram1random ttySAC1 apm_biosloopmtd6ro ram10 rtc ttySAC2 audio mem mtdblock0 ram11 rtc0udev_network_queue bus mixer mtdblock1 ram12 shm urandom console mtd0mtdblock2 ram13 snd usbdev1.1 coremtd0ro mtdblock3 ram14 sndstat usbdev1.1_ep00 dsp mtd1mtdblock4 ram15 stderr usbdev1.1_ep81 fb mtd1ro mtdblock5 ram2stdin vcs fb0 mtd2mtdblock6 ram3stdout vcs1 fd mtd2ro net ram4tty vcs3 fullmtd3null ram5tty0vcsa i2c-0 mtd3ro ppp ram6tty1vcsa1 initctl mtd4ptmx ram7tty2vcsa3 input mtd4ro pts ram8tty3zero [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/dev# Nothing looks anywhere like /dev/mmcblk0 as the wiki says, and also dmesg isn't much help. Or would it be mtdblock0? Thanks for clues and pointers! Paul -- No army can withstand the strength of an idea whose time has come. -Victor Hugo http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Where is the SD card...
Hello Alastair /dev/mmcblk0 is correct. If you can't see it your card hasn't been detected for some reason. dmesg or the output of logread just after boot should give some indication as to what's going on. I reseated the card, the proper device now shows. Thanks for the tip. Now I only have to figure out why I can't ssh to the FR anymore. (FR can't ping to desktopmachine, while desktop does ping FR ;-) Always more fun. Or would it be mtdblock0? NO!!! That's part of the internal flash. I suspected something like that, so I did not touch it. Thank you. Paul -- De gustibus non est disputandum http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Where is the SD card...
Hello Neil, Now I only have to figure out why I can't ssh to the FR anymore. (FR can't ping to desktopmachine, while desktop does ping FR ;-) Always more fun. Sounds like routing. If you mean over Wifi, and your wireless network is 192.168.0/24 (as mine is), the routing through eth0 will conflict with the default route for network-over-USB (usb0). If that's the case, you can solve the problem by running ifdown usb0 on the FR. (Or leave usb0 up, and instead do a route --del command. Or modify /etc/network/interfaces so that the USB networking uses a different network, say 192.168.1/24, and reboot. I find ifdown easiest.) It must be a routing thing. I do not use Wifi (yet), the problem occurs over the USB cable. Maybe I should instead switch off Wifi, then hook up the USB cable and try again. I own the FR since only 2 days, so this is quite a new toy for me. I had it working the first evening, but I don't remember what all I had messed with the FR before to get there. *grin* Thanks for the reaction and the tip! Paul -- Use the right word, not its second cousin. -Mark Twain http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.9] Wifi now reliable
Here you can find my step-by-step guide which puts together known stuff from various Wiki pages and own scripts I wrote: http://www.unixarea.de/openmoko.txt comments/improvements are always welcome; and this was the result yesterday: my small laptop connected to Internet with FR as the a GPRS router to Internet: http://www.unixarea.de/20081003-173025.jpg Great stuff this FR!!! And a magnificent post and picture. Thank you! Paul -- Use the right word, not its second cousin. -Mark Twain http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
SSH (was: Re: Where is the SD card...)
It must be a routing thing. It was a patience thing. It takes a while before the SSH login from the FR appears... Patience is one of my lesser virtues. *grin* Paul -- Use the right word, not its second cousin. -Mark Twain http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Setting up Qtextended: no block2mtd module
Hi all, I am running a Mandriva 2008 box, kernel is 2.6.22.19-desktop-2mdv. I am trying to set up qtextended on the uSD-card, and my attempts fail when trying to mount the jffs image on a loopback device. Been ollowing the wiki, and the problem is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FR]# modprobe block2mtd block2mtd=$loop,131072 FATAL: Module block2mtd not found. I also tried the alternate route, with mtdcore, but that too is not available. Hmpf. Can anyone give me a pointer on how to fix this? Thanks, Paul -- The art of progress is to preserve order amid change, and to preserve change amid order. -Alfred North Whitehead http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
QTextended 4.4.1
Hi, I just flashed QTextended 4.4.1. on my FR (becoming adventurous), and it works quite well. Something I found: - pairing a Bluetooth device works well - switching OFF the Bluetooth device makes the FR hang After removing the battery and rebooting: - switching ON the Bluetooth device makes the FR hang In both occasions, a small timer-clock starts revolving and at 14 seconds it stops and is determined to stay there. Is this common experience? Or did I just not wait long enough (about a minute) for QT to respond again? (Pressing powerbutton for a long time did not make anything move...) Paul -- The art of progress is to preserve order amid change, and to preserve change amid order. -Alfred North Whitehead http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Suspend on QT Extended etc.
Nicolas Linkert wrote: great. What would be the command to install the modules? dfu-util ... dfu-util -a kernel -R -D uImage-gta02-g291a9d50_mwester-stable.bin dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D qtextended-4.4.1-gta02-rootfs-release-10022309.jffs2 This worked for me. Paul -- The art of progress is to preserve order amid change, and to preserve change amid order. -Alfred North Whitehead http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
QTextended. Wheel.
I activated the Wheelbrowser in QT. It looks funny, but I can't activate any of the apps. What's the best way to get back to plain vanilla QT, flash it again? Or is the setting stored in $HOME somewhere? Paul -- The art of progress is to preserve order amid change, and to preserve change amid order. -Alfred North Whitehead http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SIM contacts and QTExtended?
Ori Pessach wrote: Is anyone else not seeing any of the SIM contacts in QTExtended? No problem here, running uImage-gta02-g291a9d50_mwester-stable.bin and qtextended-4.4.1-gta02-rootfs-release-10022309.jffs2. Paul -- The art of progress is to preserve order amid change, and to preserve change amid order. -Alfred North Whitehead http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QTextended 4.4.1
Wait a minute: Does that mean your phone wakes up from incoming calls when in suspend mode??? I have the latest rootfs and the latest kernel installed and my phone does NOT wake up. Confused ... What did you do to make this work? I'd like to know too. I gave this a try today, and the FR remained bricklike in suspend. I set it to dim/screen off for that, in that state it will 'wake up' when a call comes in. Paul -- The art of progress is to preserve order amid change, and to preserve change amid order. -Alfred North Whitehead http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SIM contacts and QTExtended?
Where's the best place to report bugs for the images from Troll/Nokia? Try their forum: http://qtextended.org/modules/newbb_plus/ Paul -- The art of progress is to preserve order amid change, and to preserve change amid order. -Alfred North Whitehead http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QTextended 4.4.1
bow before your freerunner, pay it respect as you would do to a Greek God and let it suspend ... Hmm. So no garlic, no dancing on your left foot or magic spells??? No seriously, I didn't do anything. I just tried it again: let it suspend (albeit only for a few seconds), call et voila: phone back to life. I'll try it again tomorrow. You never know. ;-) Paul -- The art of progress is to preserve order amid change, and to preserve change amid order. -Alfred North Whitehead http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QTextended 4.4.1
Well, really, really strange. This morning it has started to work for me too. First I noticed that it wakes up from suspend mode when receving an SMS. Then it started to wake up on incoming calls. Don't really know what I did to make it work tho ... Uhm, I actually did ... nothing? Will observe this more closely. I noticed exactly the same behaviour... Interesting! Paul -- Times are bad. Children no longer obey their parents, and everyone is writing a book. -Marcus Tullius Cicero http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Media player dropouts (was Re: QTextended 4.4.1)
Hello Vladimir - - audio dropouts I noticed a huge improvement when converting the MP3's to OGG's. Paul -- Times are bad. Children no longer obey their parents, and everyone is writing a book. -Marcus Tullius Cicero http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Cannot ssh to Freerunner
Nick, Any other ideas? It's really strange since this worked with the Neo 1973. Not sure if this helps you, but this is what I stuck in my firewall script for the Neo: # Freerunner's USB: $iptables -A FORWARD -i usb0 -j ACCEPT $iptables -A INPUT -i usb0 -j ACCEPT $iptables -A OUTPUT -o usb0 -j ACCEPT # For Freerunner IP iptables -I INPUT 1 -s 192.168.0.202 -j ACCEPT iptables -I OUTPUT 1 -s 192.168.0.200 -j ACCEPT iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 Paul -- Times are bad. Children no longer obey their parents, and everyone is writing a book. -Marcus Tullius Cicero http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: one day usage of qtextended: auto power-on?
Was your phone plugged in (wall charger...) ? nope, it was unplugged. And for sure powered down, even after I re-inserted the battery. I had the same thing last evening. Unplugged phone, powered down, and suddenly it switched itself on. I did not take down the time, but it was quite surprising to see it happen... Paul -- Your assumptions are your windows on the world. Scrub them off every once in a while, or the light won't come in. -Alan Alda http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FDOM
I stuck the latest FDOM on the uSD card. Gotta love the boots while booting!! Looks very complete and a lot of fun. I may run that tomorrow and see what's going to happen. :-) Kudo's for the 'terminal keyboard', that's nifty!! Paul -- Your assumptions are your windows on the world. Scrub them off every once in a while, or the light won't come in. -Alan Alda http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Files and types
Hi all, I've been trying to view a few jpg images I put on the FR. No matter if they are in the Documents folder in memory or on the uSD, there is no way I get to see even the filename of any of them. Is there a guide or a wiki-page on how the FR recognises files, or am I doing dumb things? Paul -- Your assumptions are your windows on the world. Scrub them off every once in a while, or the light won't come in. -Alan Alda http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neo Freerunner shown at SYSTEMS fair 21th-24th October in Munich, Germany
Hi Nikolaus it is just 2 weeks left until the big event takes place in Munich - where you can get first hand experience with the Freerunner (and many other topics of course). I wish I could make it. Having a job is sometimes such a nuissance... Good luck with the fair! Paul -- Your assumptions are your windows on the world. Scrub them off every once in a while, or the light won't come in. -Alan Alda http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Files and types
If it is Qt Extended, the files have to be in a folder named Documents on the SD card or in the home folder Hmm. That's where they are. I'll play around a bit more. Perhaps changing the names will help... Thank you! Paul -- Your assumptions are your windows on the world. Scrub them off every once in a while, or the light won't come in. -Alan Alda http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FDOM - OMView question
Hi all, I am running FDOM from the card at the moment, works pretty nice. I can see pictures! *grin* Question about that though: I can drag the picture up full-screen and even in zoom-view. But how does one get back to the thumbnail view from there? There's no control for it in sight, and pressing all the buttons doesn't help either. I resolved this by pulling the battery, but I doubt this is the standard control for it. ;-) Paul -- No time. Saddest words ever spoken or written. http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM - OMView question
David Samblas wrote: slide you finger up to down in the screen will zoom out and return to the slide show view Thank you. It had to be something simple like that. :-) Paul -- No time. Saddest words ever spoken or written. http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QTextended] Files and types
If it is Qt Extended, the files have to be in a folder named Documents on the SD card or in the home folder On Qt Extended I managed to see the pictures, by putting them in a path that is the file type, e.g. in Documents/images/jpeg. Now I can see them. I discovered that the Documents dir on the 2nd partition of the card is not read. Anything in a Documents dir in the 1st partition is recognised without a problem. It is also nicely combined with anything in Documents in the $HOME dir on the FR. Anything in these two Documents directories is cleanly picked up by a Rescan of the Documents option. Paul -- No time. Saddest words ever spoken or written. http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[qtextended] Bluetooth kernel bug
Hooray for logread. When I had first flashed qtextended, I could pair the FR with my bluetooth handsfree-set (Parrot Minikit). Each time since though, since I switch on the Parrot, the FR hangs, and I could not see why. Now I ran this show while keeping an eye on the log. For good measure: I flashed the FR with the following bits and pieces: uImage-gta02-g291a9d50_mwester-stable.bin qtextended-4.4.1-gta02-rootfs-release-10022309.jffs2 When I switch on the Parrot, this is logged: Oct 8 12:54:23 om-gta02 daemon.info hcid[1351]: link_key_request (sba=00:06:6E:17:42:22, dba=00:12:1C:06:85:3C) After not much time, as you can see, this is logged: Oct 8 12:54:29 om-gta02 user.crit kernel: kernel BUG at net/bluetooth/rfcomm/tty.c:313! That's when the screen on the FR freezes (ssh login still works, obviously). The only way to relieve this stress is to take out the battery. Interesting bit: When running bluetooth ftp and the FR scans for devices, it picks up everything in the area just fine. After the scan it dies also, with the difference that I can then kill (or at least jump out of) the program with the AUX button. I did this at work today, to see what happens. Perhaps this is of help to someone. If there is a way in which I can provide more info, please let me know. I'd love to use the Parrot with my FR. (The Parrot is the only bluetooth device I have around at the moment.) Paul -- No time. Saddest words ever spoken or written. http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: one day usage of qtextended: auto power-on?
and it happened again this morning, again at 06:00: auto power-on from a completely powered-down device, no sim inserted. Did not notice anything of the likes today... Paul -- No time. Saddest words ever spoken or written. http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[qtextended] After 4 days...
I must say I am quite pleased with the Freerunner and QTextended. Battery life is quite good (much more than 1 day). Do note I don't call much and don't play around with wifi/gprs/gps at the moment. I noticed that plugging in the headset (while in the car for handsfree phone) or listening to music makes the FR switch to plugged in mode, and unplugging the headset did not switch the FR back to unplugged. Did more people notice this? Paul -- Good friends are good for your health. -Irwin Sarason http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtextended] After 4 days...
Jelle De Loecker wrote: What vesion did you use? Qtextended 4.4.2 and uImage-gta02-g291a9d50_mwester-stable.bin I could not install the stable one, as I didn't want the echo problem. Hearing EVERYONE say I can hear myself as if there's something I can do about it, is very annoying. I heard today that turning down the speaker volume should fix this somewhat. Problem is that, after a reboot, this is set to max again. I intend to have a look at some files and see if I can incorporate a dirty hack for the time being, to fix this. No promises that this will bring anything, though. After I installed QTExtended I tried a few settings. I tried activating the wheel thing. It crashed. And it didn't want to start qtopia again. I had to reflash. I know about the wheel not working. I reflashed also, but learnt later that hitting the AUX button would have fixed the problem. You live and learn. Second time I pressed the telephone icon on the main screen. It crashed. It didn't want to start qtopia again. I was at work, so I couldn't reflash, I just deleted a few files and it came back. Now I come home and I see my phone is shut off. I try to start it again, but it does absolutely nothing. Nothing! It's as if it's bricked. ... I guess I'll have to reflash again! It's a shame, beyond these unbelievably bad crashes it's really very easy fast to use. Too bad you're experiencing all that crap! Maybe try an older image like 4.3.2 ? (Just an idea, I own the freerunner for almost a full week now...) /Met vriendelijke groeten,/ En vriendelijke groeten terug... Paul -- Good friends are good for your health. -Irwin Sarason http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtextended] After 4 days...
Cédric Berger wrote: On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 17:48, Russell Hay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found it lasted around three hours (moderate usage) BUT I did have Bluetooth and wifi turned on. Will try again tomorrow! Disappointed that it doesn't wake up from suspend on an incoming call - but we can't have everything, can we Wake up on call /sms works pretty well for me. Also for me. Actually it did that 3 minutes ago again! Also there is still the bug in vibrate only mode... when called it begins vibrating and only a shutdown can stop it... shudder That is not nice. Paul -- Good friends are good for your health. -Irwin Sarason http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtextended] After 4 days...
I heard today that turning down the speaker volume should fix this somewhat. Problem is that, after a reboot, this is set to max again. I intend to have a look at some files and see if I can incorporate a dirty hack for the time being, to fix this. No promises that this will bring anything, though. Right. No fix, since I don't see a place where I could grab it in the neck. I did find that the phone volume setting is in /home/root/Settings/Trolltech/Phone.conf. Somehow, after a reboot, the setting of this file is not used and implemented, but some default setting is used. I found the default Qtopia Phone.conf and played around with that, but to no avail. After a reboot the speaker volume is at 127 (max), not at 90 (which is in the Phone.conf in $HOME/Settings/Trolltech/Phone.conf). After just looking at the setting, Phone.conf is updated already, overwriting the preferred setting. Paul -- Good friends are good for your health. -Irwin Sarason http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtextended] After 4 days...
Hello Lorn, You can do this to twiddle with volumes: alsactl restore -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarious/stereout.state alsamixer alsactl store -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarious/stereout.stat Magic! Thank you! New toys to play with. :-) Paul -- Good friends are good for your health. -Irwin Sarason http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtextended] After 4 days...
I have posted two .state files sometime back, but the message still awaits moderator approval. If it does not get through, try changing the settings mentioned here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_Freerunner_audio_subsystem under Alsamixer channel controls in /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/ Thank you. I'll have a look somewhere over the day! Paul -- People who fight fire with fire usually end up with ashes. -Abigail Van Buren http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] How to export Vcf Contacts from FR?
Timo Jyrinki wrote: Does anyone know how to not only make a backup, but to export back to VCF format from Qtopia/Om2008.8? I now added a section for it at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Import_Vcf_Contacts - the 2007.2 section has a script that handles it. I wouldn't want to actively change the addressbook if I cannot export from it to some standard format if I eg. change to FSO (or even back to 2007.2 / SHR!). You mean creating VCF's from the sqlite-data in a backup? Would be interesting to play with. I could envision a slq-script that dumps the data into a file and then a bash or python script that puts things in the proper format. That's not too difficult, if sqlite plays nice. Paul -- People who fight fire with fire usually end up with ashes. -Abigail Van Buren http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] impressions from fresh debian install today
export GTK_MODULES=libgtkstylus.so What do libgtkstylus.so? 'and enabled rightclick emulation with export GTK_MODULES=libgtkstylus.so.' It seems to enable rightclick emulation... ;-) Paul -- The real menace in dealing with a five-year-old is that in no time at all you begin to sound like a five-year-old. -Jean Kerr http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] How to export Vcf Contacts from FR?
Hey Vasco,
You mean creating VCF's from the sqlite-data in a backup?
Would be interesting to play with. I could envision a slq-script that
dumps the data into a file and then a bash or python script that puts
things in the proper format. That's not too difficult, if sqlite plays nice.
I had thought about that too, but I can't find an SQLite client in OM
repos to create the necessary script.
How can we talk to SQLite on OM without going the full C/C++ and
respective libs way? Python maybe?...
I found sqlite3 on my desktop pc, which makes things a lot easier. I
think that is included on anyone's Linux box these days, and on
www.sqlite.com/download there are also precompiled binaries for Mac and
Windows. You need sqlite version 3 for the .sqlite files on the FR.
I've been playing a bit with it: copied a .sqlite file from the
Freerunner to my machine and using sqlite3 I can pull information from
it quite easily:
echo .tables | sqlite3 qtopia_db.sqlite
appointmentcategories contactpresence mimeTypeMapping
appointmentcustom contactspimdependencies
appointmentexceptions content servicehistory
appointmentscontentPropssimcardidmap
callhistory currentsimcard simlabelidmap
callhistorytimezone databaseProperties sqlsources
categories defaultMimeApplication syncServers
categoryringtoneemailaddresses taskcategories
changelog favoriteservicestaskcustom
contactaddressesgoogleidtasks
contactcategories locationLookup versioninfo
contactcustom mapCategoryToContent
contactphonenumbers mimeTypeLookup
echo .dump contactphonenumbers | sqlite3 qtopia_db.sqlite
BEGIN TRANSACTION;
CREATE TABLE contactphonenumbers ( phone_number VARCHAR(100) NOT
NULL, recid INTEGER, phone_type INTEGER, FOREIGN KEY(recid)
REFERENCES contacts(recid) );
INSERT INTO contactphonenumbers VALUES('04x875',83886113,1);
INSERT INTO contactphonenumbers VALUES('07x693',83886209,1);
INSERT INTO contactphonenumbers VALUES('+3167678',83886277,257);
INSERT INTO contactphonenumbers VALUES('049275',83886193,1);
INSERT INTO contactphonenumbers VALUES('118',83886361,1);
INSERT INTO contactphonenumbers VALUES('+316244',83886365,1);
INSERT INTO contactphonenumbers VALUES('+3162233',83886357,1);
CREATE INDEX contactphonenumbersbytype ON contactphonenumbers
(phone_type, phone_number);
CREATE INDEX contactphonenumbersindex ON contactphonenumbers (recid);
CREATE INDEX contactphonenumbersnumbers ON contactphonenumbers
(phone_number, recid);
CREATE INDEX contactphnenumberscontacts ON contactphonenumbers (recid,
phone_number);
COMMIT;
I can imagine a python script on the desktop/laptop that would read all
the dumps, disect all the insert statements, combine the information
based on the recid attribute and after pulling all that together, write
out Vcards.
Note that I am using qtopia. I am not certain if the structure on
OM2008.x is identical. If that is the case, I can imagine a config file
per distribution, mapping attribute-names to the necessary Vcard
entries. (I have a lot of imagination.) You'd then run the python script
with a parameter telling it what config/mapping to use.
I am sure I can write something like that. I am however not sure how
long it would take me, as my order for 36-hour days has still not been
fullfilled. *grin*
What do you (or anyone) think of this?
Paul
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If there were no schools to take the children away from home
part of the time, the insane asylum would be filled with
mothers.
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Re: Introducing http://www.opkg.org
Tobias Kündig wrote: I'm proud to announce my newest project: http://www.opkg.org Great job!! Paul -- If there were no schools to take the children away from home part of the time, the insane asylum would be filled with mothers. -Edgar Watson Howe http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FSO] FSO install question.
Hello people, I would like to put FSO on the SDcard, to look at it and try it. Can someone recommend the proper root/image-files to use for this? There are quite a lot on the FSO-download page... Thank you, Paul -- If there were no schools to take the children away from home part of the time, the insane asylum would be filled with mothers. -Edgar Watson Howe http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Back to the basics: improving user experience
Vasco Névoa wrote: I can see there are at least 2 distinct types of user of OM: A - I need a working phone now, the uber-cool PDA stuff can wait; B - OM is a groundbreaking project, I don't care about telephony, let's press the revolution! As much as I am divided among the two views, I think OM must oblige to its responsibility towards the users who have paid for their hardware, and keep its promise of a working phone. I agree. Having a solid functional phone is the prime objective. Paul -- My advice to you is not to inquire why or whither but just enjoy your ice cream while it's on your plate - that's my philosophy. -Thornton Wilder (from The Skin of Our Teeth) http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Photosea. Suggestion?
I'd like to show you and idea I had some days ago. I don't know for sure if already there is something similary for Freerunner. I tried to trasform it on code. It is written in python, and use pygame libs. Sorry for the dumb question. But, what is it? Follow the link ( http://rubino.dyndns.org/photosea/ ) Click screenshot.png and you'll find it is a picture viewer. :-) Paul -- My advice to you is not to inquire why or whither but just enjoy your ice cream while it's on your plate - that's my philosophy. -Thornton Wilder (from The Skin of Our Teeth) http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Photosea. Suggestion?
What is it, you must to say! I only made it :) I uploaded a screenshot just now! For now it only show three photo, and permit it to move it, and to zoom it! Now I'd like to know what it could to become Ohhh... don't get me started. A file- or directory browser to select images from a certain place? (e.g. vacation pictures from a specific year or so, in my case...) :-) -- My advice to you is not to inquire why or whither but just enjoy your ice cream while it's on your plate - that's my philosophy. -Thornton Wilder (from The Skin of Our Teeth) http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
(OM2008.9) Weird death on connecting USB
Hi all, Been running OM2008.9 for a while (from uSD) and that's pretty okay. Just now however I noticed: After having the FR on for about a day, I connected the USB cable to the PC. The FR screen showed for a moment, went black and remained that way. I had to pull the battery to force a reboot. Is this known behaviour? Will that not happen when I flash the FR with this? Paul -- We learn the rope of life by untying its knots. -Jean Toomer http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
(OM2008.9) Flashback to QTextended
I put OM2008.9 in the flash this afternoon. It did not make me happy: it suffers from the same problem as when I run it from uSD: plugging in the USB when it's running makes the FR die. I reflashed QTexended. Would it be better to use OM2008.8 instead? Or does this suffer from the same problem? I can live with most of the quirks of the FR, but this one is really annoying. I do not want to pull the battery out when I plug in the USB just because then the FR locks up and is really braindead. Paul -- Don't smoke in bed. Your ashes may fall on the ground. http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (OM2008.9) Flashback to QTextended
Yogiz wrote: That has never happened with me. What kernel are you using? I use these files: Om2008.9-gta02-20080916.uImage.bin Om2008.9.rootfs.jffs2 Paul -- Don't smoke in bed. Your ashes may fall on the ground. http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (OM2008.9) Flashback to QTextended
Hi Joel OM2008.9 is just a snapshot during the evolution of 2008.8 toward today, taken at the time of it's release. if you install 2008.8 or 2008.9 and do opkg upgrade you should end up at precisely the same place. That said, have you tried the most recent 2008.x snapshot? It's basically 2008.8 (or 2008.9 ;) 'opkg upgrade'd through sometime last night. http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8-update/ Thanks! I'll have a look at that later today, when I get back from work. Paul -- Don't smoke in bed. Your ashes may fall on the ground. http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qtextended] Bluetooth headset
Can someone say which bluetooth headset has been found to work the best with FR? Any experience in using it with Qtextended, such as how easy it is to connect, how is the battery drain-out situation, whether it solves the noise and echo problems etc.? If your collective wisdom can provide a good pointer, I can go buy one and start using the FR peacefully. I own a Parrot Minikit, which is recognised by the FR in QTE4.4.1. Note: recognised. I can pair it and that's it. When I switch it on later, things die and in the log (logread) I see they die because of a kernel bug... Paul -- Time's fun when you're having flies. -Kermit the Frog http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (OM2008.9) Flashback to QTextended
Yogiz wrote: That has never happened with me. What kernel are you using Additional information: When I switch off auto suspend (suspend = off) the problem does not exist in OM2008.9. Display is on, and stays on while I plug in the USB cable. This is a good thing. I'll try the opkg upgrade thing mentioned by Joel later on. Paul ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
Cédric Berger wrote: Here we are http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-open-source-cell-phone.html time to port to Neo ! Now that would be cool... Paul -- Time's fun when you're having flies. -Kermit the Frog http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
(OM2008.9) Upgrade - update
Right. Ran both upgrade and update. Upgrade went reasonably well, and ended with: Collected errors: * Failed to download http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/om-gta02/angstrom-version_P1-Snapshot-20081014-r1_om-gta02.opk, error 404 * Failed to download angstrom-version. Perhaps you need to run 'opkg update'? So I ran update, which gave me a lot of Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/all/Packages.sig Signature check failed and ended with a stack of * Failed to download http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/neo1973/Packages.sig, error 404 * Failed to download http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/om-gta02/Packages.sig, error 404 Where do I go wrong? Do I need to add/change something? Thanks! pauL -- Time's fun when you're having flies. -Kermit the Frog http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (OM2008.9) Upgrade - update
rakshat hooja wrote: As long as you are just getting .sig download errors there should be no problems. OPKG seems to have a problem with package signatures Grand... thank you. Running upgrade again now completed without a problem. Paul ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
Hire wrote: http://forum.koolu.org/ Register to get a patchset and a kernel pacthed for FR Downloading the stuff now. Although I am still trying to find out what to do with the patch-set ;-) So pointers are appreciated! Paul -- Saying nothing... sometimes says the most. -Emily Dickinson http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.x] GPRS Instructions on the Wiki
With my old camera phone I actually would write short messages on paper and send a photo, so it'd be free. (I'm just perverse that way) WOOOHAHAHAHAHAAA!!! :-) -- Saying nothing... sometimes says the most. -Emily Dickinson http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
(qte 4.3.3.) Kernel bug in nwester: where to report?
Hi all, A few days ago OM2008.9 got updated which meant it was downdated. E crashed at boot, everytime. I now put qt 4.3.3. on, with the latest mwester uImage (uImage-gta02-g291a9d50_mwester-stable.bin). I tried to get the kernel bug for pairing with my bluetooth set again, and it worked. Can someone tell me where I should report this: Oct 23 17:01:58 om-gta02 user.notice Qtopia: QDBusConnection received a message of type 3 that it shouldn't have Oct 23 17:01:58 om-gta02 daemon.info hcid[1324]: link_key_notify (sba=00:06:6E:17:42:22, dba=00:12:1C:06:85:3C) Oct 23 17:02:06 om-gta02 daemon.info hcid[1324]: link_key_request (sba=00:06:6E:17:42:22, dba=00:12:1C:06:85:3C) Oct 23 17:02:11 om-gta02 user.crit kernel: kernel BUG at net/bluetooth/rfcomm/tty.c:313! Thanks Paul -- Buying books would be a good thing if one could also buy the time to read them -Arthur Schopenhauer http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Tux image
Hi all on http://nwyfre.homelinux.net/alg_plaatjes/MokoTux1.jpg I have an image for OpenMoko. Where on the Wiki could I put it (and is there a preferred size?) Paul -- Better wade back mid water than gang forward and drown. (Scottish Proverb) http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Tux image
Hello Gunnar http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Artwork Neat! I had looked for something like this but failed to find... I put the images up there, in 4 flavours/sizes. A selection of sizes is nice, also the vector source if you did it in some vector-based program! No vector-source, sorry. I just stuck some images together. ;-) Paul -- Better wade back mid water than gang forward and drown. (Scottish Proverb) http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball - blackberry curve Would be my option. Paul -- Everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it. -Publius Syrus http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
Thorben Krueger wrote: 1) or 2) could then keep the software stack more minimal - no software keyboard necessary, so us geeks can run some ncurses/terminal based minimal UI and freak people out. Ah-yeah! I am so with you!! :-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alternative Case Designs
Tobias Kündig wrote: I made a little tutorial about how you can change the look of your Freerunner's Case Nifty! I like that! Good show. :-) -- Everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it. -Publius Syrus http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM and Ticket #1024 - gsm modem oscillating between registrated / not-registrated
I used AT%SLEEP=2 with FDOM (Fat_and_Dirty_OM.200809_20081023.rootfs.tar.gz and Om2008.8-gta02-20080903.uImage.bin) and now it works even better than qtopia (IMHO). In more than 12 hours and 1 reboot (to reproduce the experiment - I didn't believe it) no re-registering, receiving call (resume after suspend) and making call 100%. Wow. That's fantastic! As soon as I have a new SIM card (somehow the old one broke) I'm going to play with this! Thank you for this post. :-) Paul -- Everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it. -Publius Syrus http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ``Freerunner reliable and stable''?!
I'm a bit tired of all those (useless) threads like this. I DO USE the FR with Om2008.9 for everyday use, I do not even own any other cellphone. We should improve what we have and stop useless discussions, as well about Google's trick of Android which has nothing todo with free software. I agree. On http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner everyone can read: The FreeRunner can be purchased from the Online Store http://www.openmoko.com as of July 3, 2008. The software available on the phone makes it suitable for power users and developers only -- it is not yet ready for the general consumer. So whining that it is not ready for the regular user is kind of sad. There is a difference between a regular and a power user, and that is not only the letters it takes to write the words. Paul -- If you enjoy your job, you never have to work. http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Fdom speed (was Re: New home for the New FDOM)
Hi, I've just installed this latest FDOM on the SDCard. I was previously using QtopiaExtended and I can't help but notice that Qtopia seems to run faster. For example, with FDOM, I have to wait 5s after a start the Dialer application before I can enter a phone number. Am I the only one experiencing that ? I think the difference is that FDOM is written mostly in Python, which is an interpreted language, whereas Qte is written in C(++?) which is compiled. Compiled stuff usually is faster. Paul -- Behold the turtle. He makes progress only when he sticks his neck out. -James Bryant Conant http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release
Wow, so 3.5 hours into the battery test and its down to 1 bar. So the final result was 4.0 hours from full charge to 0 bars and then plugged in back in at 5 hrs... Did you leave the display on constantly? I have played around with stuff like that, and making sure the display dims/blanks after not too long saves a lot of battery power. Just curious... Paul -- Behold the turtle. He makes progress only when he sticks his neck out. -James Bryant Conant http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Fdom deathness
Hi all, I am facing something funny. Ha ha ha. Downloaded fdom 20081023, with the 'interesting' structure. Went into the /var/tmp/root dir, tarred up everything in there and then untarred that whole thing onto the uSD card. Now booting fdom from the uSD-card dies an early death, along the process the block that moves back and forth over the boots just stops somewhere and no nice words I know make it move further. What am I doing wrong? Thanks, Paul -- Wishing does not make a poor man rich. -Arab proverb http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Receiving empty sms after registration
I receive an empty sms each time I register with my phone provider (Bouygues in France, Simio in Spain), with an origin address like _@. Has anybody got the same behavior? Is it coming from the phone or from the provider? I think that is a message from your operator to say that you have a new voicemail message. When the phone gets that message it should give you a new voicemail popup or other indicator instead of putting the message in your SMS inbox. Could you phone your voicemail mailbox to see if this is the case? And do you have the option to test this with another phone? Paul -- Education is what survives when what has been learnt has been forgotten. -B. F. Skinner http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[debian] Shutting down Debian
Hello all, What would be the cleanest way to shut down debian on the FR? I have XFCE panel running. Clicking the 'lock' only allows me to log out, leaving me at a login prompt. Keeping down the power button will cast an init 5 so it reboots. I'd need an init 6 though... Paul -- In real life, I assure you, there is no such thing as algebra. -Fran Lebowitz http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] Shutting down Debian
Thomas Bertani wrote: I put the halt in the run box of xfce, so when I click run in xfce panel, I shutdown because the halt command it stillt there from previous type Ah, wonderful! Thank you! (sorry for my bad english) Don't worry. Paul ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] Shutting down Debian
i am fiddling with the same issue right now and found http://wiki.xfce.org/faq#session_manager Thomas gave me an idea with halt. I intend to make that a /etc/sudoers command and then stick that in the XFCE menu somewhere. Maybe an easy way to do this. :-) Paul -- In real life, I assure you, there is no such thing as algebra. -Fran Lebowitz http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] Shutting down Debian
if you fiddle with sudoers already the easiest way would be to do as the link describes: - create a group (powerdev or so) - add your user to it (and log out and in again to make it working) - add the rule to sudoers afterwards the shutdown and reboot button will be active and usable. seems more sensible to em than re-inventing the wheel. You are so right... :-) -- In real life, I assure you, there is no such thing as algebra. -Fran Lebowitz http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] openmoko-panel-plugin 0.5
Sebastian Ohl wrote: after the confusion on the last few days now i am happy to announce a new version of the openmoko-panel-plugin. I'll install it as soon as I can. You are a hero. One of them. :-) Paul -- The key to change . . . is to let go of fear. -Rosanne Cash http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
(Debian) Problem installing kernel modules
Hi all, I am installing Debian again, on the new 8GB card. Unfortunately it dies on me (second try also), with this error: I: System configured I: Done with stage configuration Running stage kernel Installing kernel image and modules * Dowloading kernel image Connecting to downloads.openmoko.org (88.198.93.219:80) uImage.bin 100% |***| 1890k 00:00:00 ETA * Downloading kernel modules Connecting to downloads.openmoko.org (88.198.93.219:80) -100% |***| 21112k 00:00:00 ETA * Running depmod WARNING: Couldn't open directory /lib/modules/2.6.24mw-g291a9d50: No such file or directory FATAL: Could not open /lib/modules/2.6.24mw-g291a9d50/modules.dep.temp for writing: No such file or directory [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# I ran: SD_PART1_FS=vfat INST_MIRROR=http://ftp.nl.debian.org /debian ./install.sh all to get things going, like I did with the 512MB card, and that ran fine. The installer-script is right, too: the directory mentioned does not exist. Now, what is the smart thing to do? Paul -- Success seems to be largely a matter of hanging on after others have let go. -William Feather http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (Debian) Problem installing kernel modules
Hallo Joachim, Without knowing what goes wrong, try this unreleased version of the installer: http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-fso/files.git;a=blob_plain;f=install.sh;h=HEAD;hb=HEAD It will install the kernel from a Debian package (and not with wget/tar), maybe then your problem does not occur. Thanks, it is running now. I'll let you know how it worked out! Schönen Abend noch! Paul -- Success seems to be largely a matter of hanging on after others have let go. -William Feather http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (Debian) Problem installing kernel modules
Joachim Breitner wrote: Without knowing what goes wrong, try this unreleased version of the installer: http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-fso/files.git;a=blob_plain;f=install.sh;h=HEAD;hb=HEAD After running the new install.sh, it all ended well: I: Kernel installed I: Done with stage kernel Running stage unmount Unmounting microSD card partitions I: microSD card partitions unmounted I: Done with stage unmount I: All done! Now reboot, switch on the Openmoko FreeRunner with both AUX+PWR, buttons, choose Boot from microSD (FAT+ext2) and wait! I rebooted, Zhone came up and that does not desire to go beyond Connecting w/ dbus... May be related to the frameworkd.conf file from another thread, I'll play with that later. Now sleep. Thanks for this one!! Paul -- Success seems to be largely a matter of hanging on after others have let go. -William Feather http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Yet Another OpenMoko Presentation
Tim Dobson wrote: Recently, I helped do a talk at my local free software group[1] about Openmoko/Neo Freerunner etc. (video coming soon!) for which I wrote a short presentation, five minutes before it started. Fantastic!! I have my own 'freerunner experience' webpage, is it okay if I link to your PDF-presentation from there? Paul -- Success generally depends upon knowing how long it takes to succeed. -Charles de Montesquieu http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (Debian) Problem installing kernel modules
Hello Joachim and all, I rebooted, Zhone came up and that does not desire to go beyond Connecting w/ dbus... May be related to the frameworkd.conf file from another thread It was indeed the frameworkd problem. I ran the install command (apt-get --reinstall install fso-config-gta02) and presto, things started and are working! Including the OpenMoko panel, which is a really nice job. Now onward to installing XFCE, as that is quite nice to have, I noticed. :-) Paul -- Success generally depends upon knowing how long it takes to succeed. -Charles de Montesquieu http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Booting from large microSD (SDHC) [success]
Marian Flor wrote: Hello list members, here another FR success story: Booting and usage of a large 16GB SDHC works! Wow!! Good show!!! Paul -- Success generally depends upon knowing how long it takes to succeed. -Charles de Montesquieu http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
(Debian) XFCE... no /etc/init.d/zhone-session?
I am trying to set up XFCE, following the info on
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian
Since the install of last night, default things are working well, but
after apt-getting the XFCE packages there's something amiss:
cp /etc/init.d/zhone-session /etc/init.d/xfce shouts at me that there is no
file called zhone-session.
As that is already a stopper, there's no use in trying to continue. Does
someone have a smart idea on what to do next? It may be a problem
('feature') of the experimental installer, I guess, but I am not sure.
Thanks!
Paul
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Re: [android] new version with page flipping corrected.
Cédric Berger wrote: Last android image/kernel from Sean (http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/ ) indeed resolved the page flipping problem. Is there a particular magic needed to make this work? I got the jffs and uImage from the page, flashed it on the Neo, and after reboot the screen goes and remains black. A pretty shade of black, but still I had hoped for a bit more... like less black. Paul -- Music melts all the separate parts of our bodies together. -Anais Nin http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] new version with page flipping corrected.
if you did not install previous android image, check http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3 . You must have an sd card with at least 2 partitions, the second being ext3 formatted. Android will write data on it. Great, thank you for the information!! Paul -- Music melts all the separate parts of our bodies together. -Anais Nin http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] new version with page flipping corrected.
Fun, nice, pretty, awesome. Do I recall correctly that FR/Android can so far not unlock a SIM card? In Debian/Zhone it works fine. Thanks, Paul -- Music melts all the separate parts of our bodies together. -Anais Nin http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: microSD card
just a last question, how do you guys open the microSD slot if you want to replace the card? Looks so fragile and I'm worried not to brake it! I did succeed 2 times up to know but is always a pain! Any good tips for that? I just stick a fingernail under the latch, exactly in the middle and gently pull it up. Works fine so far. Paul -- There is more treasure in books than in all the pirate's loot on Treasure Island . . . and best of all, you can enjoy these riches every day of your life. -Walt Disney http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
(Debian) IceWm running!
Yes, it works. Fast! Including the openmoko-panel-plugin. See an example at http://www.nlpagan.net/images/img_3914.jpg (And no, that's not my cat ;-) Paul -- The things I want to know are in books; my best friend is the man who'll get me a book I ain't read. -Abraham Lincoln http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (Debian) IceWm running!
Hey Jeroen tha GoT Man! Looks pretty good! I'm running IceWM as well, but how did you rotate the screen? The method described on the Debian page (editing xorg.conf) doesn't seem to work for me, is there anything I missed? I did only edit xorg.conf and restarted X. It worked after that, no problem. And what about the matchbox-keyboard, for me, under IceWM it is way smaller (tiny!) than under XFCE, is this also the case with your IceWM or do you use some other onscreen keyboard? It's indeed the tiny one I have now. Not sure how I can make the larger one come up, there must be a way... Paul -- The things I want to know are in books; my best friend is the man who'll get me a book I ain't read. -Abraham Lincoln http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (Debian) IceWm running!
Here are efforts to do this without using x.org all together: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-November/035551.html Please also look into Illume keyboard of enlightenment, could that with with IceWm? Nifty. Playthings for the weekend. Thank you!! Paul -- The things I want to know are in books; my best friend is the man who'll get me a book I ain't read. -Abraham Lincoln http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (Debian) IceWm running!
I could not figure out a way so I switched to xvkbd that respects the -geometry option. I am messing with that too, and it seems to work reasonably well. Just wish it would stop pressing enter continuously when I only press it once. But I'll RTFM first. hahaha Paul -- He who sacrifices his conscience to ambition burns a picture to obtain the ashes. -Chinese Proverb http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qt Extended] Disabling predictive text ?
Does anyone know if it's possible to disable the predictive text in the alpha-only keyboard in Qt Extended 4.4.2 ? It's on the wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qtopia_/_Qt_Extended_on_FreeRunner#Internationalization Good luck! Paul -- He who sacrifices his conscience to ambition burns a picture to obtain the ashes. -Chinese Proverb http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (Debian) IceWm running!
Tha_Man wrote: However, I'm still not able to switch my desktop to landscape mode :-( setting the options in xorg.conf doesn't seem to matter, is IceWM using a different (X) config file or something? Paul, did you do anything special besides removing xfce (I presume) and installing icewm? I didn't even remove XFCE. I set up IceWM, edited both entries in xorg.conf and that was really all. If you want me to, I can e-mail you the xorg.conf I have, tomorrow evening. See you on tweakers.net! Paul -- He who sacrifices his conscience to ambition burns a picture to obtain the ashes. -Chinese Proverb http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Debian] apt-get upgrade made the FR die...
I must admit I had just started the upgrade command and went off to do different things... What I recall seeing at the end was the mention of a problem making a backup link to uImage.bin after which the upgrade exited with code 1. The SSH session was still fine, the GUI on the FR itself had died, however. After pulling the battery, things started up again, but they leave me with a dark screen (after a small flash of seeing X starting). Would someone know a nice way to get the FR running again? Thanks! Paul -- Be a friend to thyself, and others will be so too. -Thomas Fuller http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] apt-get upgrade made the FR die...
Michele Renda wrote: It happent to me too, some months ago. It is possible to solve the problem in different ways, you can try to boot with a non debian image, download the install.sh script, and do only the stages: mount, kernel (in this way it reinstall only the kernel) I don't know if it can solve your problem, but can be a good points to start. Great, thank you for the tip. I'll have a try today. :-) Paul ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] apt-get upgrade made the FR die...
Thanks, everyone, for the tips. I'll look into changing the FAT partition to EXT2, as that seems to be the big problem-maker. Paul -- Be a friend to thyself, and others will be so too. -Thomas Fuller http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] apt-get upgrade made the FR die...
Hello arne am i right in assuming that you a) are running debian from sd card and b) have /boot as separate fat partition Looks like I have to go this way. The info on the Debian page to set the 1st partition of the SD to EXT2 and updating uBoot requires some fso-util packages on the local desktop, but they don't seem available for Mandriva. The fun never ends!! :-) Paul -- Love yourself first and everything falls into line. -Lucille Ball http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] apt-get upgrade made the FR die {FIXED}
It turned out to be quite simple in the end. Flashed QT on the FR, booted that, and followed Marian's tips on installing the mwester kernel from a while back. Then reinstalled fso-gta02 and things were fine again :-) Paul -- Anger repressed can poison a relationship as surely as the cruelest words. -Dr. Joyce Brothers http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Creating a distro on a sim card
and format the 1st partition vfat, I get this error when booting (using magnifying glass); [2.68000]mmcblk0: error -84 sending read/write command [2.68000]buffer I/O error on device mmcblk0, logical block 0 [2.68500]mmcblk0: error -110 sending read/write command [2.69000]buffer I/O error on device mmcblk0, logical block 0 [8.15000]kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(179,2) What did you do to the 2nd partition? You need to format that ext2, and put a rootfs on that. Judging from the last error message, there is no defined or formated 2nd partition. Paul -- If you can talk brilliantly about a problem, it can create the consoling illusion that it has been mastered. -Stanley Kubrick http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2009 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First impressions on new Android rootfs
I'm uploading a new image right now that includes Ruis virtual keyboard. Please give it 30 minutes or so to complete the upload. Sounds fabulous, Sean. I wonder... will I be able to use the virtual keyboard to enter a PIN for the simcard? I can't remove that from the card (some providers think it's fun to make that so). Paul -- Heaven from all creatures hides the book of Fate. -Alexander Pope http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2009 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to remove microSD card
Ok, so I'm feeling totally moronic now ... I'm pretty sure I entered my microSD card some 3 months ago, but I can't seem to figure out how to remove it again ... some howto for a gta02? My how-to for you: carefully put a finger nail in the center of the lid and gently pull up. I always do it like that and it has worked all the time. Paul -- Heaven from all creatures hides the book of Fate. -Alexander Pope http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2009 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
