On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 6:51 AM, Brenda Wang wrote:
>>> I put this link the navigation bar.
>>> You can access this page via News of sidebar.
Great, thanks!
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On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Nicola Mfb wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 12:27 AM, Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> Great, thanks for releasin!
>>
>> Could you finish the job, see
>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Community_Update
>>
Joel: I like the idea!
Could you
a) try to implement it
or
b) write it as wish to http://www.paroli-project.org/trac/ and/or
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Paroli-issues#Feature_wishlist
Thanks!
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onder if Laszlo / khiraly could says
something about this..
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omapper has some of this built in but it doens't work with
fbus-based GPS-stuff..
* Supporting layers doesn't sound like a bad idea.
* Being able to change the frequency of saving the location would be nice
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do what you want (=gps, wlan, calls, ...)
and are happy with it, why not.
OTOH, with SHR you know what you get/don't get.
r - using FR&OM2009t5 as my only phone, planning to travel around 3
weeks with it..
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On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 4:10 AM, Xavier Cremaschi wrote:
> Btw 'People' application needs to be fixed...
>
> For whom it may concern, in
> /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/tichy/gui_paroli/__init__.py", line
> 288, in _redraw_view
> the line
> letter = value[0]
> triggers an error.
>
> If you re
he time
to reach it (I know Navit ~does this) etc.. - anyone interested?!)
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ps. http://www.obico.de/
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ck concerts without ear
plugs so if you don't hear it doesn't mean it's not there :) (No, I
have no idea how high it is.. higher than I can whistle anyway..)
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t;"
Jun 18 00:58:01 fredrin: you got backscroll?
I also have these links open as tabs to try out at some stage to play
around with the settings - haven't had the time so far..
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Hardware:AT_Commands#Echo_Suppression_and_Noise_Reduction
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_19
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:02 PM, jeremy jozwik wrote:
> thats a might big log youve got there...
And I believe it has the required background information to play
around with the settings and try to solve this problem.. Let us know
if someone finds out something new..
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>> Christian
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sible to get in contact with Tobias /opkg.org
The scripts to create the repository are here: http://www.opkg.org/repo.html
getdeb.net is open source and does something like this.
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Could you post the files somewhere / run a diff to see what's
different there than in
http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/raw-attachment/ticket/2121/gsmhandset.state.new-O
Thanks!
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ror: No module named fileinput
r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list|grep fileinput
Any ideas?
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On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Nicola Mfb wrote:
> July 9 2009 community updates is out.
> Take a look at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/July_9%2C_2009
> and contribute to the new draft at
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Updates/July_23%2C_2009.
>
> Best Regards
>
you're using. Did
you change any of the AT settings?
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On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Previdi
Roberto wrote:
> Is it possible to scroll the settings in paroli without clicking anyone?
At the moment it isn't, it hasn't been fixed yet, as far as I know.
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Can you test again and tell me if it is OK now or if there is still something
> missing?
> Thanks
Yes, seems to install also python-misc and it starts with no problems.
Now I only need to find out how to work with the server scripts...
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and trying to change the font size in vala-terminal - with my finger.
It just doesn't happen..
-> big menu buttons that are seen after pressing a smaller button/area.
waiting to see the first screenshots :)
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around for #2284 -no autostart for speech-dispatcher
update-rc.d -f speech-dispatcher remove
see http://etherpad.com/zt3x1x7ERX (but don't rely too much on it :)
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Sorry to tell you this, but OM2008 is outdated for a long time ago
already, OM2009 is now more active..
-> thanks for reporting but I'm 95% sure, it will not be fixed..
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On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Xavier
Cremaschi wrote:
> Hi folks,
> I have been using tangogps since the beginning of my Openmoko life (july
> 08), and now I've got lots of openstreetmap tiles stored on my microSD
> which cover useful areas for me.
check opkg.org for yao
gi
script etc etc on the server etc?). In what formats can I get the
reports out? Is anyone of you running this now somewhere, could you
please link the URL?
Thanks!
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awesome, thanks!!
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g it.. I actually tried Zhone the other day (when Paroli or
FSO failed to delete SMS's from the SIM) and was very pleased with it
- I'd really like to see it developed further!
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t it here.
It works if I start it witn omgps - but tangogps doesn't see a satellite..
-> something wrong there.
unstable om2009 from maybe 2 days ago.
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Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)
I have no idea it it's because of openbmap or fso but I'd really
appreciate it if someone could gice me a tip if there's something I
can do to fix this. It just stopped working some days a
s stop working if I don't install anything..
I've heard they call Linux stable so I trusted.. :) The only changing
thing here is the country and the GSM cells, other than that I really
can't come up with anything that has changed.
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http://pastebin.com/m18850984
otoh frameork log doesn't know anything about this:
http://pastebin.com/m37b98cf3
(lines printed with tail)
Is it paroli or fso that's failing?
I might be able to provide more logs if needed
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restarting a couple of times lets me use paroli, gps and everything
with no problems! I actually was able to run 4 apps at the same time
using gps, not bad! And Paroli connects to gsm networks nicely.
Thanks!
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this is how I'd do it:
ssh -X r...@192.168.0.202
login
midori &
It's possible that the result is ugly but should work. You didn't tell
what happens when you try to run midori.
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appreciate if you could remove this from
mails to this list..)
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Hi there!
ABSTRACT
I think a new showroom for community created application is needed to
boost the development and help users to get to know new apps easily.
Now we have opkg.org to show & distribute the apps created by the
community for Freerunner.
SETUP
opkg.org has allowed us to easily see wha
ow - manual
> installation instructions.
> I think, every OM user is able to run 'opkg install '. It would be a
> great step forward, if deps are resolved and so on
+1!
> Very last words:
> Please do not put anything up, when there is no time / resources to maintain
>
ve, we should not compare Ubuntu/Debian
> repositories with opkg.org, simply because opkg is not repository.
Not? See http://www.opkg.org/packages ...
>> METHODS
>>
> [...cut]
> Or if i didn't convinced you yet -
> try to catch opkg author, and con
ne distro there covering SHR, OM2009 etc.
And yes, Om2009 is still developed, maybe it doesn't have it's own
website, mailing lists etc but it's still develoepd and there's a plan
to move over to openembedded repositories instead of maintaini
uld be
distro-undependant so that it can be easily adapted to work on
openwrt, shr, om2009 - maybe even on Debian and Gentoo?!
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ful information ,
>
> A other idea regarding this is use a filter to show all, or just
> one/few distros, and when entering the app description show on what
> distribution is included an in what version.
>
> Yes its no easy and maybe we must
I wouldn't rule Android out too, if
people want to add Android apps there and the file formats etc support
it..
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night and present the results with packages from
a repository the next day.. Later on, some modification is required to
support other file types, not only debian-style Packages.
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On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 7:01 PM, David Reyes Samblas
Martinez wrote:
> 2009/8/21 Risto H. Kurppa :
>> I had a closer look at apt-portal at https://launchpad.net/apt-portal
>
> Tried to istall on Ubuntu 8.10 machine with this instructuions[1] but
> fails on running the scrip
to guys/devels at #getdeb, they said they'd be
able to help with Jaunty. I'll let you know (or you can join the
channel to ask them directly)
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rk on Paroli will benefit many users and it's a smooth start
for you, for example rewriting the wlan workflow (see
http://www.paroli-project.org/trac/ticket/171 ) or include a bluetooth
support.
You're welcome to join #paroli irc-channel for more questions.
Enjoy your freedom!
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http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Introduction
My wish also would be that the (former) OM employees still around
could rewrite/update the parts that concern OM the company in the
wiki.
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les so at most you
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>> On 8/22/09, Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
>> (and I know, others will recommend you other distros like SHR or
>> Debian - but I was first :)
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Sebastian
Krzyszkowiak wrote:
> Few arguments for SHR over Om2009: more people working on it, devel
7;s a technical minefield. Or maybe it
> is interesting because it is a minefield ;-)
heh :)
btw, found this: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Advertising -
interesting stuff, too bad it hasn't be used for something useful..
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kind of off-topic but also check this as your sister-project:
http://www.sahkoautot.fi/eng
-> A community took an Corolla and are converting it to an electric
car. The plan is to release all specs to the public so anyone could do
it. The content of the site is already cc-by-sa.
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heard in a moving car, 0.5m away so it's kind of disturbing..
>
> Anyone else experiencing the same?
bump.
Anone else?
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> of the site. It's really basic but I think that it's a start point.
Wow, thanks for this! I'll try to have a look at it later, don't have
DIA around now.. (an png would be nice and readable for everyone :)
Maybe someone else can have a look and comment
So anyone had any success in trying out apt-portal (
http://wiki.getdeb.net/apt-portal/Download )
joaopinto at #getdeb is willing to help anyone running into problems.
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then he'd only see the apps for his distro.
-> my 2 cents go for apt-portal so now we have.. hmm.. not enought to
buzz-fix FR of the one who sets up apt-portal for us :)
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27; - and uses the repositories of
the distribution. People wanting to release their app need to be able
to release their app in the official repositories but with the lack of
instructions it just doesnt' happen.
Thanks!
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Dude, of course it's been opened - it's an open phone :)
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Disassembling_Neo_1973
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_1973_hardware
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wVhvk&feature=related
But it's now been a looong time since anything new has been released.
Tell us! What's the thing you've done with you open phone?
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Hi!
Created a doodle poll to see what distros people run on their Openmoko phones.
Go & answer at http://doodle.com/sd2c8d8snr23eeqq
I'll close the poll in a week to add the results to
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2009-09-02
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You can try this:
http://kurppa.fi/freerunner/config_files/gsmhandset.state (copy to ..
hmm.. let me try.. /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios )
Or do the opkg magic mentioned above
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: I think that's irrelevant, no-one uses the
phone with zero modifications. But I think it makes sense to create
another poll just to find out what telephone apps people use. Paroli,
zhone, ...?
You're welcome to run another poll later, for example in a month or
two with these changes.
inland will buy it to save some shipping costs.
I hope you didn't get frustrated with the community as there're some
awesome things happening right now:
http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/great-news-from-the-openmoko-community/
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you did it for - this makes Navit again a bit
more usable (though it'd be of course great if someone actually fixed
this stuff in Navit.. I can't believe you can't scroll the bookmarks.
Wonder where the scarce devel resourves are used..)
And navit-dbus-examples sound good too!
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ke a call but I'm
looking forward for you and Mirko to fix it :)
Did I already post this for everyone to read:
http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2009/01/building-community-around-your-foss.html
- anyway, read it again, it's a great post.
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s, screenshots, links, something. Didn't hear about this before..
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first is a stupid act - hey, it's unstable!
Testing makes more sense as things don't keep changing all the time.
But things being as they are now.. I really don't know. I fear that if
unstable's the first to be supported, no apps will ever find their
ways to testing.
Waitin
r navit..)
Scroll bookmarks / streetnames
So they server a little bit different purpose. I'd very much like to
use vector maps (=navit) but so far bitmaps rock a bit more (and I
prefer omgps over tangogps...)
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at debian repositories already. Ok, openbmap
and pypennotes, mokomaze, remoko are the only ~popular/famous apps in
this repository).
I really don't know, I let the devels decide what's best.
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ow :)
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you split the documentation to more than one site:
'installation' 'applications' 'settings' 'connectivity' or something
like that, and create a wiki category and table of contents or
something, just to make it easier to read.
opkg install navit-locale-fi tangog
e have been no changes in
OM2009 -> nothing that could break anything.
SHR instead is developed all the time -> changes when upgrading ->
things might eventually break..
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ps, the alsa state I used is the 'official' a7 with some little
changes, DON'T use it but try the original:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Alsa_state_a7
(each unit is unique - each unit needs some editing of statefile, a7
is a great statefile to start with!)
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up to do that.
> RHK> 13:44 < dos1> cellhunter?
> RHK> 13:44 < dos1> ...
> RHK> 13:44 < dos1> use openBmap ;P
> RHK> 13:44 < rhkfin> no, not cellhunter :)
>
> thanks for your opinion, this is a big world, isn
eds a cleanup!
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; DocScrutinizer> if you see trigger, do same again
Shouldn't be very hard but it'd be extremely cool. Integration to a
distro (SHR maybe :) might be a bit more of a hack (adding GUI to
enable/disable this feature etc) though..
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On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:37 AM, jeremy jozwik wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
>> If the phone is already upside down (on a table), don't alert (or
>> maybe with vibra or something)
>> If the phone is not upside down, alert as predefined
'd prefer something lighter.
I think this is a good start, I can't wait to see what David's up to.
David: release early, release often: let us see what's happening so
people can contribute!
Release the specs of the layout so people can work on themes/mockups.
Excited!
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see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual#Audio:_Volume
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Markus Törnqvist wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:32:09AM +0400, Paul Fertser wrote:
>>"Risto H. Kurppa" writes:
>>> How about preferring nano over vi? I think nano
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:06 AM, KaZeR wrote:
> Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
> True, realtime-drawn maps on low power device like the FR can't compete with
> bitmaps maps on these points.
Don't know if glamo will help here at some stage..
> Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
>>
>
cessing:
O: readline-common
O: libreadline5
O: gpgv
O: gnupg
O: debian-archive-keyring
O: apt
E: Internal error: install
r...@om-gta02 ~ $
No wonder debian can't attract more people on Freerunner:
http://doodle.com/sd2c8d8snr23eeqq
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ioned on the site and I've been trying to
check the is_in -codes. Do I really have to add is_in to every object
that's interpreted to be in the wrong place in osm2navit? This means
every street, POI etc..? Not going to happen..
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one.
> @risto:
>
> to save:
> ESC :w ENTER
>
> to quit:
> ESC :q ENTER
>
> to save and quit:
> ESC :wq ENTER
>
> to quit without saving:
> ESC :q! ENTER
>
> to save a readonly file:
> ESC :wq! ENTER
Thanks!
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10 000
units are sold (with uboot and OM200x in them) this really doesn't
represent the whole population..
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On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Helge Hafting wrote:
> Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
> Can you check that is is exactly upside down, and ring anyway if
> it is a few degrees or more off from completely flat?
>
> People put phones is pockets. Women put them in handbags, even. So the
>
veryone else
running the first installation configuriong) do the magic over ssh?
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On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Bernhard Reiter wrote:
> OM2009 users: are you successfully using your Freerunners as phones
> (also picking up calls)? Or just for non-phone purposes?
Yes, om2009 unstable.
(but I still vote for going to SHR :)
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> You should now have a functional paroli on SHR setup. Once you have a working
> setup I would advise against doing opkg upgrades and only upgrade specific
> packages when needed.
Will try this right now!
Thanks Angus for you work on om2009.
A
c/ticket/204)
It's your choice what'll you start working on - these are my
suggestions, others will suggest something else :)
However, you're warmly welcome!
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s usually help.
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something.openmoko.org makes sense to me, if it's not about openmoko inc
om-community works as a second option - I'd like to see the foundation
thing up&running behind this..
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other.
If I saw how (good) it looks I might give it a try.
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On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 1:13 AM, Vincent
Meurisse wrote:
> On Monday 31 August 2009 21:23:07 Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
>> Just a follower from the side - it'd make qtmoko more interesting if
>> the site had screenshots around..
> I made some screenshots. Unfortunately the uplo
rk is the upcoming device from Nokia...
Aug 31 07:33:24 akiniemi: what will it use for telephony then?
Aug 31 07:36:37 PaulFertser: proprietary stack, built on
top of PhoNet
Aug 31 07:37:04 But oFono is what we're expecting to use in
the future. We just haven't been able to say it aloud.
to share your work with at least Markus. It's nice
to hear that you're doing progress but as this is supposed to be a
community effort, it's vital that also some other know about what's
happening and can go and learn the code we're using etc.
Can't wait to hear/see m
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Patryk Benderz wrote:
> Hi Risto,
> could you make those polls available longer? I assume there are some
> amount of users who do not follow mailing list. We should let them vote
> also.
So what's your idea to reach them?
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