Re: Free Runner price vs iphone 3G price
On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 18:08 -0700, ian douglas wrote: Robert Taylor wrote: If you want to compare the total cost, compare the total cost of buying the new iphone UNLOCKED at retail cost (you can't) plus the data package and THEN we can talk. But the consumer isn't asked to pay the full unlocked price of the iPhone. Just because ATT subsidizes the phone by lessening the profit they make on the $100/month you'll pay them for using their service, the consumer isn't paying more for the phone since they'd still have to pay for the same voice/data service to use a Freerunner. It just means ATT makes more profit on the voice/data plan because they haven't subsidized anything. And you still haven't followed up with how you calculated the iPhone to cost 'twice' as much as the Freerunner. I took the following approach (I am in The Netherlands): compare the price difference for a 24month contract with or without an iPhone (16GB) (Yes this is not the new one, but i suspect it will not differ too much). Price for 24 mo with iPhone: 719,- eur with HTC Touch Diamond (just for comparison): 541,- without phone: 163,10 eur ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [GSM] Geolocating
On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 14:17 +0200, Marc-Olivier Barre wrote: On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 1:57 PM, Lucas Bonnet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello guys, during one of my presentation of the Openmoko project, I mentionned the ability to know which GSM cell the Neo is connected to. This allows some approximate geolocating, provided you know the position of the GSM cells. It could be useful in an urban environment, where GPS isn't very helpful (walls, narrow streets, etc.). Well the key concept here is provided you know the position of the GSM cells. Now, you might try to call you operators customer support asking them Hi, could you send me a copy of your hardware database please ?, but I doubt you would get a positive answer, *if* they even bother to answer... I think http://celldb.org/ is trying to solve this problem. Sander ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko sounds, Motto
On Mon, 2008-04-21 at 23:13 +0200, ramsesoriginal wrote: I recalled there was already some discussion about this, and after reading through something like 300 mails ( xD ) i found this thread: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-July/007112.html So, free your phone could be dangerous. What about: Pay 399 and get a free phone :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
