Come see OpenMoko at Ubuntu Live

Dear Community, Michael Shiloh has volunteered to setup a booth at Ubuntu Live (http://www.ubuntulive.com) July 22 to 24 in Portland, Oregon. He'll be demoing and talking about both the platform and the Neo. If you're in town, please stop by! Thanks so much for the help Michael! -Sean __

Re: An alternative gaming top case

On Sun, 2007-07-01 at 19:00 -0700, Tim Newsom wrote: > > Supposing some company decided to provide alternate case designs or > add > on products for the neo1973, who do they need to talk to about > branding > / authorization to sell them to the public? > > OR > > Is it possible that FIC or the

Re: Advertising/hype

On Sun, 2007-07-01 at 16:51 +0200, Frederic Kettelhoit wrote: > I also really like the script! Sounds great. The idea of some ads for > the openmoko is great. The question is, whether there is someone who > will pay that. FIC? Or do you want to show them on youtube and other > free platforms only?

Re: New Oceans

On Jul 1, 2007, at 1:25 AM, Pranav Desai wrote: On 6/30/07, Gabriel Ambuehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Saturday 30 June 2007 18:39:27 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > +1 to this unbundled approach. Also maybe add "replacement touchscreen" > > as this is probably #1 part most likely to get b

Re: New Oceans

On Jun 30, 2007, at 5:05 AM, Ian Stirling wrote: Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: We've had a particularly challenging time trying to setup the online infrastructure and figure out how to ship these phones. Sometime later today or early tomorrow we're going to make another announcement a

Re: New Oceans

On Jul 1, 2007, at 12:39 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 30 Jun 2007, Ian Darwin wrote: I personally would also like to see Motherboard alone - $150 GPS antenna - $20 Internal subframe - $20 This is both for cases where you damage your neo in some manner that is clearly not co

Re: What, no GPS?

On Jun 28, 2007, at 10:49 PM, mathew davis wrote: Correct me if I am wrong anyone, but I was under the impression that AGPS is shipping in all models. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Category:Neo1973_Hardware (A)GPS is huge for us. It's going to be in all our devices next year, too. -Sea

Re: Minor correction

On Jun 28, 2007, at 10:44 PM, Mikko J Rauhala wrote: On to, 2007-06-28 at 21:27 +0800, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: Copy and paste was working too well last night. The Neo Base kit has one (1) MicroSD card. Only the Neo Advanced kit has two. I also suspect that you have another slight typo in

Re: Yes, there's GPS (Re: What, no GPS?)

On Jun 28, 2007, at 10:42 PM, Mikko J Rauhala wrote: A scheduled EDGE upgrade would've made it just about perfect, but I shan't complain, there's lots here to work with already. Looking forward to a later 3g version though ;) Me, too ;-) -Sean

Re: New Oceans

On Jun 29, 2007, at 8:10 AM, Myk Melez wrote: Congrats on the new company. It's great news, as is word that the phone will be available in a scant two weeks. Thanks! Presumably the software will be advancing rapidly between July 9 and October, when the GTA02 comes out. What's the proces

Re: New Oceans

On Jun 29, 2007, at 7:51 AM, Clayton Jones wrote: I've been avidly scanning all posts and web sites for months and have been keeping quiet in order to keep chatter down and not clog people's in-boxes... But this is such great news i have to respond to encourage Sean, the OpenMoko and FIC teams

Re: New Oceans

On Jun 28, 2007, at 4:57 PM, Jeff Andros wrote: Anyways, that news (openmoko.com) was really worth the wait. Despite some of the grumblers on the list, there are plenty of us who understand how development goes, and how Mr. Murphy always seems to be doing backflips through your project.

Minor correction

Dear Community, Copy and paste was working too well last night. The Neo Base kit has one (1) MicroSD card. Only the Neo Advanced kit has two. Sorry for the confusion. Thanks again for your great encouragement! -Sean ___ OpenMoko community mailing li

New Oceans

Dear Community, Andre Gide once said, "Man cannot discover new oceans unless he has the courage to lose sight of the shore." Sexism aside, I can't think of a better way to describe our adventures this past year. Around the end of March, we were three months behind schedule. Critical hardware bug

New Oceans

Dear Community, Andre Gide once said, "Man cannot discover new oceans unless he has the courage to lose sight of the shore." Sexism aside, I can't think of a better way to describe our adventures this past year. Around the end of March, we were three months behind schedule. Critical hardware bug

Re: rough seas

On Wed, 2007-06-27 at 09:15 +0200, Tomasz Zielinski wrote: > 2007/6/20, Sean Moss-Pultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > In less than a week, we will update you about what's going on at > FIC/ > > OpenMoko, the status of GTA01/02, and our plans for selling these

rough seas

Dear Community! Mickey and Harald blogged a bit about what's happening over here but I know it's not in the level of detail that you all are looking for. In less than a week, we will update you about what's going on at FIC/ OpenMoko, the status of GTA01/02, and our plans for selling these ne

Re: The actual release date of NEO1973

On 6/6/07 6:07 PM, "De Villiers, Jaco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can you please tell me if you will be shipping to South Africa when the phone > is released ? > Also , at what time can we expect the phone to be released ? September ? Or > closer to 2008 ? > Thank you for your time We don't h

Re: Concern for usability and ergonomics

[I'm CC'ing the community list because there's lots of points here that go well beyond hardware.] On Jun 11, 2007, at 6:36 AM, Miguel A. Torres wrote: Hi, Like many of you, I'm following the project with great enthusiasm. This will surely demonstrate companies in the sector that open sou

Re: Specs and Docs

On May 27, 2007, at 11:24 AM, Varga-Háli Dániel wrote: I think it would be a great idea if the core team - and the community too - would take some time (no matter how much it is) and would document every small aspect of OpenMoko. From kernel to GUI. Usually those projects that are really well d

Re: HXD8?

On Thu, 2007-05-24 at 17:21 -0500, chris s wrote: > I've been following the openmoko project since december and eagerly > awaiting my phone :-) Anywhile while looking at the archives for > some of the other openmoko lists,such as kernel, there is several > refrences to an HXD8. Is this a new ope

Re: First impressions of Neo1973

On May 25, 2007, at 9:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 25 May 2007 13:37, Sven Neuhaus wrote: The software seems a lot worse than the hardware at the moment. Every reaction to user input is slow. The GUI is quite pretty but the speed is worrysome. What CPU is going to be in the up

Re: Salesman & neo1973

On Thu, 2007-05-24 at 12:12 +0100, Andrew P. Loughran wrote: [snip] > He said "what's that Sir?" to which I told him, as briefly as possible > that it was a phone that it currently being developed that should be > available at the end of the year. He sounded very confused and said > "So tell me

Re: FCC Approval

On Mon, 2007-05-21 at 23:01 -1000, Jim Thompson wrote: > it will be interesting to see which parts of the FCC application are > marked 'proprietary'. I really have no idea about this. But if there's something that you want to see, that's marked 'proprietary' let me know and I'll see what I can d

Re: FCC Approval

On Mon, 2007-05-21 at 14:54 -0400, Duncan Hudson wrote: > >> That’s about as far as I bothered reading – I’ll wait until there > is > >> an official FIC response in the next 24-48 hours about how they > >> intend to supply orders in the USA before I bother reading any > more. > > The NEO will be

Re: FCC Approval

On May 21, 2007, at 11:16 AM, Dean Collins wrote: I wonder what percentage of a device can be pre-assembled and still constitute a 'kit' Section 15.23 Home-built devices. (a) Equipment authorization is not required for devices that are not marketed, from a kit, and are built in quanti

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

On May 16, 2007, at 4:11 AM, Frank Coenen wrote: Sean, does this have to do with the recent shortage on LCD-displays in Taiwan? - Source: http://www.digitimes.com/systems/a20070508PD204.html Quote: "The supply of 2.2- to 2.5-inch panels for entry and medium-level DSCs began running short o

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

On May 16, 2007, at 8:03 AM, polz wrote: On Tuesday 15 May 2007 18:26:57 Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: Most all the parts are now at the factory. The May 10th run has been delayed about two weeks because of last minute supply coordination issues. But I'm still being told that we're

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

On May 16, 2007, at 2:48 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sean wrote: "Most all the parts are now at the factory. The May 10th run has been delayed about two weeks because of last minute supply coordination issues. But I'm still being told that we're on to have devices this month." That's cool.

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

On Mon, 2007-05-14 at 17:51 -0500, Jason Elwell wrote: > > On Monday 14 May 2007 14:46:08 Duncan Hudson wrote: > > So, if I was a betting man I'd say that it either > > didn't go off, or another show stopper / slip causer popped up. > > Lets hope you are a crappy gambler. :) > > Seriously thoug

Re: Preorder

On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 15:07 -0500, el jefe delito wrote: > In the spirit of keeping the whole thing Open, it would be wonderful > to have colour packs available (for purchase I suppose) so that we > could mix and match the external cases. I personally would like > Orange and Silver or Orange and G

Re: Preorder

On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 10:26 -0400, Duncan Hudson wrote: > > Sorry, I started all this - but this was the link I was looking for, > > thanks. > > Great work! > > > But what does that link offer? So I posted my name on the list > months > ago - does that guarantee that I'll get one of the first

Re: Size and weight considerations for future Openmoko devices

On Wed, 2007-05-02 at 15:43 +0200, Carlo E. Prelz wrote: (snip) > At FIC they not have the budget of Apple, But oh how I wish we did! :-) > and they do not have the > possibility to market a product at a loss, I presume. Correct. For us this is something long term. We need to make sure we ca

Re: Some light ahead...

On Wed, 2007-04-25 at 08:26 +0200, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: > On Wednesday 25 April 2007 01:51:45 Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: > > Oh and Imre Kaloz gets a freed phone, too. Thanks for being the > first to > > tell us about Atheros. We're almost for sure going to use their AR6K

Re: Some light ahead...

On Tue, 2007-04-24 at 20:52 -0400, Alex Rickabaugh wrote: > This is my first post to this listserv by the way. I read the > discussions every day and I must say, this is a truly exciting > project. > I'm hoping I can help out somehow. Way to go, all! Welcome. We're glad to have you here! -Sean

Some light ahead...

Dear Community, We owe you all an update as to our status. Here it goes... Last week we finished 200 devices. Of these about 50 seem to have some problems but the rest are functionally complete, tested, and ready to go. We know the source of the problems for the 50 that failed and this is already

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

On Tue, 2007-04-24 at 12:58 +0200, Vladimír Lapáček wrote: > I would like to ask about the decision to use the 2.5 mm audio jack in > Neo 1973. If it is seriously intended to be used as a music player, > people would most likely use their ordinary headphones. In my opinion > most widely used audio

Re: Status update on the phones?

On Thu, 2007-04-19 at 00:06 +0200, Marcel de Jong wrote: > I was wondering (along, I'm sure, with many others here on this list) > what the current status is of the P1 phones. > Is there 'light at the end of the tunnel' yet, for you guys? :) > A few weeks ago, Sean mentioned some problems that migh

An Update

Dear Community, Today is April 1st (well...somewhere, but no longer in my current timezone). My original plan was to announce that Harald convinced us all to turn OpenMoko into a closed source distribution --ClosedMofo. And that hardware would only be onsale as a locked phone. Then announce that

Re: UI long term development perspective: physics engine

[I know my reply is very slow! This has just been a struggle of a month for me. Hopefully people are still interesting in this thread... ] On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 14:38 +0100, Florent THIERY wrote: > I know it's not gonna come in the priority list before at least a year > (or ever), but if we want

RE: OpenMoko at Embedded Systems Conference?

On Tue, 2007-03-27 at 13:30 +0200, Christian F.K. Schaller wrote: > Will anyone else from FIC or OpenMoko be there ? Not at this time. We're all busy trying to get hardware shipping. -Sean ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.o

Re: No stylus on V1 release?

On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 10:54 +0200, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: > On Sunday 25 March 2007 01:16:46 Clare Johnstone wrote: > > Dear all, > > This frightens me in my role as mother, grandmother etc, i.e. a > > representative of the public to which you hope to sell this phone. > > Essentially any laser devi

RE: Crossroads

Dear Community, A big thanks again for all your feedback! We're meeting with vendors this week and are optimistic about our chances to find a WiFi module. We'll keep you all posted and announce the winner of the free phone once we find the right solution. As for the UI / Application developer wo

Re: My Moko

On Fri, 2007-03-16 at 06:54 -0700, Mary Stovel wrote: > I just got a new puppy and named him Moko. People I meet around > town like his name and when they ask me about it, I tell them about > the openmoko project. Just my way of spreading the word. Someday, > people will just say "oh, m

Re: Crossroads

On Thu, 2007-03-15 at 17:44 +, Ian Stirling wrote: > Benjamin C Burns wrote: > > Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: > >> Companies like Cingular have been known to whitelist handsets. > >> They *could* do it for the Neo. I highly doubt they would. > >> > > I me

Re: Crossroads

On Wed, 2007-03-14 at 12:57 +0200, Mikko Rauhala wrote: > ke, 2007-03-14 kello 16:30 +0800, Sean Moss-Pultz kirjoitti: > > If you're seriously considering buying a Windows Mobile over > something > > like a power adapter, which you could buy at any store for maybe 10 >

Re: Crossroads

On Wed, 2007-03-14 at 12:01 -0400, Mike Krier wrote: > > What I'm arguing for is that you either get wifi on the device OR > > provide official info about what service plan will work for the > device. > > Sorry- NYC = New York City. I get so used to abbreviating it. (Hey > what country is the

Thanks for all the WiFI help

Dear Community, A _huge_ thanks for all the feedback on this WiFi stuff! We've got some new leads now and will keep you all posted when we find one that meets our "freedom requirements." ;-) -Sean ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists

Re: Crossroads

On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 19:09 +0100, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: > On Tuesday 13 March 2007 18:49:17 dimitris wrote: > > Sean, given the uncertainty surrounding Wifi drivers, would an > > externally-accessible SDIO slot be a better step for the next hw > revision? > > I would very much welcome a standard

Re: Crossroads

On Wed, 2007-03-14 at 00:58 +0100, Robin Sonefors wrote: > I have a much more important question, however: will the Neo work with > european electrons, or will I need to import asian ones? If I'd need > to > import a new set of electrons to use for charging my battery every > time > it runs out, it

Re: Crossroads

On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 20:14 +0100, Danijel Orsolic wrote: > I hope you don't mind; I've copied your call for help here: > http://www.mobiliberty.com/openmoko_needs_your_help > > And I submit it to a popular GNU/Linux news site. More exposure means > greater chances of you finding the help you need

Re: Crossroads

On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 15:21 -0400, Mike wrote: > This is open source development. So we developers aren't making > money > here. I for, one am NOT willing to pay $350 to get a device that I'm > not sure will work with whatever service I choose, and therefore that > I'm not sure I can even deve

Crossroads

Dear Community, OpenMoko is built around the philosophy that far more knowledge exists outside the walls of a corporation than within. Internally, we're struggling with two issues. So we're throwing this out, hoping that some of you have can help us move past our current crossroads: 1) We c

Re: Neologics

On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 08:12 -0500, Richard Franks wrote: > I found the section on emergence/Neoforms _very_ interesting - I've > recently been expanding upon this ( > http://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/OpenMoko/Ideas/ConceptualFramework ) > from which I've going down similar lines of thought - do you

RE: coverage at linuxdevices.com

On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 19:01 +, Graham Auld wrote: > As I understand it Andreas, the hackers lunchbox is including the dev > board > connecting thru the JTAG interface of the phone. You would purchace > your > phone seperatly. > > Someone please correct me if I missunderstand. This is correct.

Re: coverage at linuxdevices.com

On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 12:33 -0700, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > >Just wondering, but did I get that right, the Hackers version that > >will be available this month will only be a developers board, without > >a phone casing => unuseable as a mobile phone in day-to-day > >operations, right? > > My understa

Neologics

Dear Community, For those of you who couldn't make it FOSDEM or Etel, I've posted our presentation here: http://www.openmoko.com/files/OpenMoko_Neologics.pdf Happy reading! -Sean ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http:

Re: Openmoko on Linux Forum Copenhagen

On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 08:32 +0100, Martin Heick Hansen wrote: > First let me introduce myself since this is my first post. > I've been following OpenMoko and the mailing list for the last month > or so. Then I started to wonder why nobody in Denmark new anything > about this revolution which is st

Re: Fwd: OpenMoko workshop at ETel

On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 08:49 +0100, Krzysztof Kajkowski wrote: > > The thing we can promise at this point is a faster CPU. We're still > > working on the WiFi stuff. Graphics acceleration is much later. > > > > That's wonderful news Sean! > > Could you clarify: are there going to be two 'Phases 1'

Re: Fwd: OpenMoko workshop at ETel

On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 17:02 -0500, Alan Ide wrote: > So, I am a little confussed still. Are you saying the "Refreshed" > version of the Neo that will be released in June will have A faster > CPU, dedicated Graphics Acceleration, AND Wifi?? If so, thats a hell > of an "upgrade" after 3 months. The

Re: FOSDEM OpenMoko talk now on video.google.com

On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 10:52 +0100, denis wrote: > Why can't they just tell us what the features will be? Is it so > difficult to be open? In my opinion it would bring much more > credibility > for FIC. But if we can't deliver for some reason it would have the inverse effect. Please understand I

Re: given the OpenMoko Challenges...

On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 10:24 +0100, Sven Neuhaus wrote: > > I totally agree with you . FIC is also an operator in > > Taiwan . I certainlyunderstand the thinking / restriction > of > > Telecom operators. > > Regards > > Ming J. Chien / FIC > > Wow; I didn't know FIC was

Re: Shipment of phones

On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 08:23 +0100, Marc Verwerft wrote: > > I understood that the european distrubution was from phase 2 onwards > (I.E. september 2007). > If I want to buy the neo1973 as a developer in phase1, then I have to > order it in Taiwan and pay the customs duties etc. In order not to be

Re: Platforms for Engineering school labs (Was: Re: RFC: Public targets having a big potential: Engineering schools)

On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 14:14 +0530, Aanjhan R wrote: > On 2/25/07, Tim Newsom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How do we get to the pictures to see them? Are they posted > anywhere? > > Is it possible to get the presentation as well. Is it posted in the > FOSDEM site? I tried hard finding them. I c

Re: Re:Forums Page?

On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 11:29 -0700, mathew davis wrote: > That is totally understandable. I can see that side of it also. I > will use the wiki and mailing lists for now the combination can like > Joe said cover everything. It will be nice to have the forums up when > Phase 2 starts though. You

Re: Re:Forums Page?

On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 10:29 -0700, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > FWIW, I don't find forums any more useable than mailling lists. With the addition of many great searching / archiving properties. And (most important for me) offline mode ;-) > On > the other hand, wikis seem to end up with lots of the so

Re: Warranty on phase 1 phones

On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 10:08 -0600, el jefe delito wrote: > Would this warranty cover accidental breakage of the large screen, say > by leaning on it against a desk or something? hehe...sorry man. Couldn't help you here ;-) > I find it unlikely but it would really put minds at ease when spending >

Re: Warranty on phase 1 phones

On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 17:32 -0800, Pranav Desai wrote: > > Is there any warranty on phase 1 phones ? If the screen is bad, some > input ports don't work, etc. what will be the process then ? Of course we'll have a warranty ;-) I'm not sure of the exact terms at this point. Probably something st

Re: hi-res Neo1973 pictures

On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 20:32 +0100, Krzysztof Kajkowski wrote: > 2007/2/18, Jason Elwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Not exactly high-resolution, but they may work for you: > > Thank you, Jason! I saw all these pictures. I'm afraid that only last > one is gonna work in newspaper (although it would be

Re: Software Emulator

On Sat, 2007-02-17 at 10:51 -0700, Richi Plana wrote: > On Sat, 2007-02-17 at 13:52 -0300, jeff wrote: > > Well, I'm not Sean, but here's what I've been able to scrape up. It > seems you > > can go a couple routes: qemu or xoo. I do not think that qemu can > handle the > > MACHINE="fic-gta01". Bu

Re: mFAQ (was: openmoko articles)

On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 11:57 -0500, Doug Parker wrote: > > That would be really great. We just can't seem to scale enough to do > it > > ourselves, so any help from you guys would be awesome! > > > > -Sean > > Make THEM want to come to US...well, not *make* them, but provide the > easy way to amena

Re: openmoko articles

On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 17:35 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Very nice writeups at linuxdevices and slashgear > > > > http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS2657814070.html > > http://www.slashgear.com/openmoko-and-fic-neo1973-updates-153926.php > > Now that's more like it. I didn't like the the to

Re: given the OpenMoko Challenges...

On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 15:50 -0800, Myk Melez wrote: > Kenshin wrote: > > ... what are the chances of getting a camera? ^_^ > > ... > > I think that not having a camera is a "serious" technologic setback > > and loses some points to the competition. > Note that the Neo 1973 is just the first of s

Re: How many Neos?

On Tue, 2007-02-13 at 23:54 +0100, Milan Votava wrote: > How many Neos have to be sold (and in which time frame) to keep FIC > happy? I think this is pretty important and we, as a community should > help to achieve this target. If Sean & we fail, FIC will probably show > no mercy with the beloved p

Re: OpenMoko Challenges

On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 12:35 +0100, Krzysztof Kajkowski wrote: > > I'm sorry, I don't understand; can you confirm that the > Neo1973 will or wont have BT and Wifi? > > > Me neither! I am quite sure that it will have BT, I thought that WiFi > is going to be later (in next N

OpenMoko Challenges

Dear Community, We, the OpenMoko Team, have promised exciting news about our project today. We have some information that we think you will like very much, but also have some news we like less. Let us first address the unpleasant part, before turning to the more cheerful part of this announcement.

Re: Hardware changes between phases ?

On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 18:38 +, Ian Stirling wrote: > > I haven't seen an answer to something that I've been wondering about. > > Are the numbers of P1 phones fixed - is it a batch of n, or are they > coming off a production line that's later flashing most of them to > some > proprietary OS.

Re: Hardware changes between phases ?

On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 18:02 +, Ian Stirling wrote: > Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 12:06 -0800, Pranav Desai wrote: > >> Are there going to hardware changes between Phase1 and Phase2 ... > from > >> this posting it sounds like that, just w

Re: Hardware changes between phases ?

On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 12:06 -0800, Pranav Desai wrote: > Are there going to hardware changes between Phase1 and Phase2 ... from > this posting it sounds like that, just wanted to verify. Yes. -Sean ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.

RE: OpenMoko at Oreilly Emerging Telephony Conference

On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 11:26 -0800, Jon Phillips wrote: > Wait, Sean, you are in the bay area right now? I'm in Shanghai now. If I'm on the same continent for more than a week, something is seriously wrong ;-) > Yah, maybe we should get > together once the device is launched ... Also, I'm putting

Re: OpenMoko at Oreilly Emerging Telephony Conference

On Sat, 2007-02-03 at 16:45 -0800, Jon Phillips wrote: > > GREAT idea. Whether or not we are attending the conference, enough > of us live > > in the area that we should get together, if not at the conference > then in a > > suitably friendly bar or restaurant. Perhaps we should find out when > Sea

Re: Please no crossposting! Re: Information regarding theMessaging Support in OpenMoko

On 2/1/07 10:06 AM, "David Schlesinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, you're not wrong, certainly: people use MMS even though it _is_ horribly > broken (and expensive, etc.) I guess the point I'm attempting to make here is > that in addition to the challenges in just getting a working phone o

Re: Please no crossposting! Re: Information regarding theMessaging Support in OpenMoko

On 2/1/07 11:15 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: >> You might be right. But I personally feel that MMS is fundamentally >> flawed. Costs aside, it's just not the way I think media should be >> transferred. The

Re: Please no crossposting! Re: Information regarding theMessaging Support in OpenMoko

On 2/1/07 4:30 AM, "David Schlesinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Also, who uses MMS? > > Only pretty much the majority of actual cellphone users in Europe, based on > the market research and carrier requirements I've read... IMHO, only because nobody has given us anything better. We're tryin

Re: Q: How does USB hubs work? Re: Multiple USB Devices

On 2/1/07 1:44 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If anyone knows of a (non-compliant) powered hub that supplies upstream power, > please note it on the wiki. I have a feeling that this will be a much-demanded > accessory in a month or so. We're working on something like this no

Re: But wich GSM chip? Re: AT commands document (Was: Fax modem? Fax software? Neo as T.38 gateway?)

On 1/31/07 12:32 AM, "Robert Michel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So can you say us already a little more about the GSM chip? Sure. We're using a Ti Calypso chipset. Unfortunately this stuff is all under _super_ NDA :-( AKA: If I post a datasheet I would get the CEO of FIC fired within 24 hours

Re: idea: World Clock

On 1/30/07 2:22 AM, "Mary Stovel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The pictures of the Neo show a clock. Will this be a world clock? > I would really like one so that when I get to Germany next year, I > can keep track of time back home for making my calls. One with > ability to set alarms would be

Re: AT commands document (Was: Fax modem? Fax software? Neo as T.38 gateway?)

On 1/30/07 2:20 PM, "Carlo E. Prelz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> My question is: would the GSM chip has a modem >>> for data connections and also fax support? >> Good question. And if it is, is it a standard class 1 faxmodem like >> common with GSM mobiles nowaday? > > Related question: is it

Another GPS post from a GL engineer

Guys, Here are more comments to recent GPS related posts on this list. Hope you'll find some answers here. -- On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 02:38:20PM +0100, Michele Manzato wrote: > Some additional questions on this subject: > > 1. Is there any "A-

Re: Reactions From Other People to News of OpenMoko

On 1/27/07 7:12 AM, "Mary Stovel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just a thought. Recently I convinced a friend to get a prepaid > cell phone and hang it around her neck when she went out in case she > needed to call for help. This allowed her greater freedom to leave > home and sure was less e

Re: Will the OSDL/MLI have a yearly report as well? Re: LiMo foundation

On 1/27/07 12:57 AM, "David Schlesinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Linux Organisation membership and organisation politics is not my >> business, but from the linux-user point of view it is a little >> confusing that OpenMoko/Neo1973 isn't mentioned here: >> http://old.linux-foundation.org/lab

Re: Developers phone also fit for early adopters?

On 1/26/07 9:40 AM, "Marcus Bauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The fact that I didn't answer to that mail doesn't mean I didn't read > it. Should I now say you obviously didn't follow your own annoucements > and didn't read the topic you set on IRC because you said the phone > would come out in J

Re: Developers phone also fit for early adopters?

On 1/26/07 8:47 AM, "Marcus Bauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just get the shit out and stop talking about September. Get the brain > share into it - nobody will mind if you keep doing the decisions. Can we please keep this list civilized? > This is a great opportunity for Linux/Open Source

Re: Reactions From Other People to News of OpenMoko

On 1/26/07 5:39 AM, "Mary Stovel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The OpenMoko appeals to me because it is innovative and cool > looking. Also, I am tired of having to replace my phone...I have 5 > right now that are useless. I want a phone that can update and add > applications that I want.

Re: idea for Neo 2nd generation: Accelerometer

On 1/24/07 11:41 AM, "kkr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anybody know more about price and precision of the accelerometers's > chips on the market now? About US$3. -Sean ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lis

Re: Pictures of Neo1973 under GFDL for wikipedia

On 1/24/07 4:39 PM, "Marc Verwerft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > can we use the pictures at the openmoko site in wikipedia (all languages) with > the permission of FIC under the GNU Free Documentation License > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GFDL )? Please do!

Re: Free Your Phone

[sorry, I pressed the wrong button before I finished] On 1/22/07 5:28 PM, "Milan Votava" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 05:35 22.1.2007, you wrote: >> On 1/22/07 4:58 AM, "Milan Votava" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> It would be nice to know if Sean's aim is >>> >>> 1. to satisfy his and ou

Re: Free Your Phone

On 1/22/07 5:28 PM, "Milan Votava" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Never has this project been about exploiting people. If you ready _any_ of >> our documents you will find that we're trying to create an open ecosystem >> for the mobile industry. Sure I hope this will make us money. Otherwise I >> w

Re: Need for a clusterd megaphone via Bluetooth....

On 1/23/07 1:38 AM, "Michael 'Mickey' Lauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robert Michel wrote: >> I need some help - it is realy a pitty that Sean >> will not speach on a stage at the FOSDEM 2007 > > Are you sure? :) I'm speaking. I just meant that I would prefer to walk around and hang out with

Re: Sean, do you need a table in Brussel for the FOSDEM 2007? ; ) Re: Neo1973 device description and picture for xoo.

On 1/22/07 9:07 PM, "Robert Michel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But Sean, when you are at the FOSDEM, do you need a table in BXL? > Look: http://www.fosdem.org/2007/booths > Many "Open..." there, but OpenMoko is still missing. When it belongs > to a missing table, I could bring one with me from A

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