On Wednesday, January 18, 2012 18:19:41 Arslan Abbasi wrote:
Simple recording and playback of recorded sounds can be done but, can
anyone give me some clue if it has enough
processing power to do real time voice processing and transmitting
processed voice at the same time. And please, if
On Wednesday, January 18, 2012 08:56:45 Radek Polak wrote:
On Wednesday 18 January 2012 07:16:06 Arslan Abbasi wrote:
The Inter IC sound pins interfaced with the audio codec.
I need help regarding any sound manipulation on this platform, if any
code is available.
IIRC there was a program
Am Freitag, 24. Juni 2011, 15:41:38 schrieb Gilles Ganault:
Hello
I've never built packages before (Debian or opkg). I used the
following short article, but it doesn't work:
http://inportb.com/2010/10/19/making-an-opkg-package/
When I try to install the package on a Linux
Hi,
yesterday we hopefully fixed the bug that shr_elm_softkey doesn't start.
The problem was, that a part of the autostart function of e17 uses mmap, but
mmap doesn't work on jffs2.
We bumped the version of efreet to a newer version where some of the mmap
usages were removed.
But raster likes
Am Mittwoch 23 März 2011, 22:47:56 schrieb Jan Vlug:
I've been using SHR-testing 2011.1 for a while now and experienced the
following problems:
- white screen after reception of a text message.
i will look if i can reproduce this.
- not always new message icon on lock screen.
the lockscreen
Am Dienstag 14 Dezember 2010, 19:15:37 schrieb
omcomali@porcupinefactory.org:
Fortunately, only root folder's metadata were lost. Everything important
was recovered and backed up :)
More tests: the pim database, keyboards and dictionaries worked after I
found the correct paths. To
Am Sonntag 12 Dezember 2010, 11:16:41 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:
Am 11.12.2010 um 13:47 schrieb Thomas Zimmermann:
Hi,
i want announce the RC1 for the upcomming SHR-testing release in 2011.
http://build.shr-project.org/tests/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/
So please test
Am Sonntag 12 Dezember 2010, 13:54:33 schrieb
omcomali@porcupinefactory.org:
Hey,
The moment I read this email, I forced myself to do a reinstall.
So far, so good. The switch from Illume to Illume2 was a bit confusing, but
I got used to the interface. The first impression: it's so fast!
Hi,
i want announce the RC1 for the upcomming SHR-testing release in 2011.
http://build.shr-project.org/tests/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/
So please test these images and report the bugs so that we can release a
really working SHR-testing.
The image is based on the 2010.12 release of
Am Montag 04 Oktober 2010, 19:57:40 schrieb Alexander Lehner:
On Mon, 4 Oct 2010, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
Dictator worked just fine for me a few months ago. Maybe it's a new
problem.
Can you try to explain how or why it doesn't work?
I first forgot to mention that I'm using
Am Dienstag 05 Oktober 2010, 12:10:19 schrieb Alexander Lehner:
On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Thomas Zimmermann wrote:
Have you tried to install the version of dictator wich is in the SHR
feed?
I did not find it.
It's in the SHR-u feed: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-
unstable/ipk/armv4t
Am Freitag 20 August 2010, 01:04:55 schrieb W. B. Kranendonk:
Hi List,
I'd like to start trying to contribute to the Openmoko-ecosystem in a more
meaningful manner than lurking the mailinglists.
I also like to see if I can add my own twist to my phone (running SHR-U). I
imagined combining
Am Donnerstag 22 Juli 2010, 10:33:58 schrieb Risto H. Kurppa:
Some things I've noticed that propably exist also in the latest unstable
images: 1) Importing contacts from SIM sometimes imports only partial
number, the last digit is missing
Can you send me the (uncensord) log while importing
Am Montag 21 Juni 2010, 11:54:57 schrieb Fox Mulder:
I had to replace a few program paths which were no more correct. But
then the first try was not so successfull as i hoped. It seems that the
script tries to create a simple gui which fails with an AttributeError.
Am Donnerstag 17 Juni 2010, 00:06:59 schrieb pike:
Hi
has this
SHR-U: Empty VT on resume
http://shr-users-discussions.2691941.n2.nabble.com/SHR-U-Empty-VT-on-resume
-td5005437.html
ever been solved ? I've basicly stopped taking my phone
with me once this has started. people refer to me
Am Samstag 08 Mai 2010, 12:18:25 schrieb pike:
Hi
I flashed shr-u onto my Neo twice yesterday,
and both times, though it worked fine at first,
it didnt survive a deep sleep and never successfully
booted again (*).
So, I'm feeling less adventurous already. This
used to be my daily phone
Am Donnerstag 08 April 2010 05:42:41 schrieb jeremy jozwik:
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Rafael Ignacio Zurita
rizur...@yahoo.com wrote:
mplayer via command line on ffs (and using qtmoko) works okey
(pause and other functions)
eh, shr-u here...
We are currently trying to stablize
Am Donnerstag 01 April 2010 00:29:47 schrieb pike:
Hi
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Pike/Thone
I have .ipk now
http://jama.homelinux.org/org.openembedded.shr/all/thone_0.5-r0.4_all.ipk
Cool! Thanks!
Now, as was to be expected, I fixed some bugs
and upped a new version, 0.6
Am Montag 29 März 2010 10:49:06 schrieb Tony Berth:
Dear Team,
I just did a new install of the latest SHR-testing image but can't get the
existing SIM contacts and messages! Is that a known problem?
Thanks
Tony
It's explained on the shr-user ML:
Am Sonntag 14 Februar 2010 11:39:18 schrieb Lars Hennig:
Am Sonntag 14 Februar 2010 schrieb Petr Vanek:
How about ~ by default but having it as a configurable string? And the
downloader perhaps too? wget. Some might change it to
wget -c (continue downloading)
Even better would be
Am Sonntag 14 Februar 2010 21:46:29 schrieb Richy:
On opkg jefliks was just posted.
afaik it is the fastest JabberClient out there. (And the only one I know
that is based on EFL)
http://www.opkg.org/package_331.html
Enjoy
668c16bc69
668c16bc69
I tried to package it for SHR but i
Am Donnerstag 21 Januar 2010 09:49:48 schrieb Vaudano Luca:
Hello,
I'm trying to compile a simple Elementary application against
SHR-Testing with the bitbake system.
I stuck on this error:
http://lists.uclibc.org/pipermail/uclibc/2009-August/042875.html
I installed libblkid-dev and
Am Donnerstag 21 Januar 2010 10:06:50 schrieb Vaudano Luca:
No, I didn't.
Now it's only DEPENDS = elementary.
Thanks
Then you should do it. You need the libary in your bitbake tree and not on
your buildhost system.
___
Openmoko community mailing
Am Donnerstag 14 Januar 2010 09:00:27 schrieb c_c:
Petr Vanek wrote:
toggle loading-displaying images
Any ideas how webkit does that?
Don't know about ewebkit, but with webkit-gtk it's just setting
settings = webkit_web_view_get_settings(WEBKIT_WEB_VIEW(web_view));
Am Dienstag 05 Januar 2010 21:55:33 schrieb Thomas Franck:
On 01/04/2010 11:46 AM, Thomas Zimmermann wrote:
http://downloads.vdm-design.de/obexd_0.20-r0.4_armv4t.ipk
downloaded and installed that..
But i think sth more is needed. We need an bluetooth agent that knows
about obexd
Am Sonntag 10 Januar 2010 16:35:24 schrieb arne anka:
looking into phonefsod.conf i see, that it duplicates already existing fso
configuration:
- brighness
- dim
- idle_screen
- suspend
none of the above strikes me as especially particular to the _phone_
functionality -- in fact, imo
Am Samstag 09 Januar 2010 12:44:36 schrieb Christian Rüb:
Hi
as I am still debugging my Qt dbus problem I installed DSO packages from
[1] on my local Debian box. But I do not have a real GPS and no
blueetooth. So, is there a way to fake a GPS device (something like
cat'ing a NMEA log to
Am Montag 04 Januar 2010 11:12:11 schrieb Thomas Franck:
Happy New Year!
Happy New Year :)
I'm back home.. well.. at work now..
What do I have to prepare in order to test your plugin?
I think it's not working, because i implemented just 1 of the 3 calls. And it
seems the other 2 are
Am Dienstag 29 Dezember 2009 21:30:53 schrieb Risto H. Kurppa:
Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?
No
Do you use FR as your primary PDA?
No
What distribution you run most of the time?
SHR unstable
If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change
over to, and why?
Am Freitag 25 Dezember 2009 17:53:43 schrieb Thomas Franck:
I am very interested in this, too.. I've wanted to get my FR to connect to
my bmw car system ever since I got it.. and it always played up, didn't
want to talk to the car at all.. FR was happy with the BT connect but my
radio was
Am Donnerstag 24 Dezember 2009 00:23:50 schrieb Denis Johnson:
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 3:31 AM, Thomas Zimmermann m...@vdm-design.de wrote:
So is someone out there who owns a handsfree, car or sth else that
supports showing contacts and/or missed calls over bluetooth?
I have a Ipaq 4150
Am Donnerstag 24 Dezember 2009 12:30:21 schrieb Michal Brzozowski:
2009/12/9 Andrew Stephen andrew.step...@gmail.com
Hi Thomas,
I've just tried 1) with literki and it doesn't have the same problem,
so I think you're right, and it does seem to be an Illume keyboard
problem.
Is there
I'm currently trying to add FSO support to obexd.
With these plugins it will be possible to see missed calls and contacts from
the FR (or any other phone running FSO) on a bluetooth device supporting PBAP
(Phone Book Access Profile).
Half of work is done. But now i'm looking for someone who can
-- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --
Betreff: [Shr-User] SHR-testing upgrade. PLEASE READ BEFORE UPGRADING
Datum: Dienstag 22 Dezember 2009
Von: Sebastian Spaeth sebast...@sspaeth.de
An: SHR-user shr-u...@lists.shr-project.org, SHR-devel shr-
de...@lists.shr-project.org
I just
Am Dienstag 08 Dezember 2009 21:51:42 schrieb Andrew Stephen:
I am using Midori 0.2.1-r1.4 on SHR-U.
There are two usability issues which are causing me problems:
1) Location bar suggestions drop-down
As I type a URL which matches anything in the history a dropdown
appears and the last
Am Dienstag 08 Dezember 2009 21:59:10 schrieb Adam Jimerson:
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Andrew Stephen
andrew.step...@gmail.comwrote:
I am using Midori 0.2.1-r1.4 on SHR-U.
There are two usability issues which are causing me problems:
1) Location bar suggestions drop-down
As
Am Dienstag 08 Dezember 2009 22:03:44 schrieb Thomas Zimmermann:
Am Dienstag 08 Dezember 2009 21:51:42 schrieb Andrew Stephen:
I am using Midori 0.2.1-r1.4 on SHR-U.
There are two usability issues which are causing me problems:
1) Location bar suggestions drop-down
As I type a URL
Am Mittwoch 09 Dezember 2009 00:02:38 schrieb Ivo van den Maagdenberg:
Forgive me for asking one of those silly questions:
How do I make a screenshot of an openmoko screen, without a photo camera?
Install gpe-scap and call it over ssh to make a screenshot of the current
screen.
-- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --
Betreff: [Shr-User] ANNOUNCE: new shr-testing image
Datum: Freitag 04 Dezember 2009
Von: Sebastian Spaeth sebast...@sspaeth.de
An: SHR-user shr-u...@lists.shr-project.org, SHR-devel shr-
de...@lists.shr-project.org
After a long fight with our
Am Sonntag 29 November 2009 10:46:38 schrieb Al Johnson:
On Sunday 29 November 2009, Tony Berth wrote:
what is the current staus of SHR-U? Can be used as daily distro? Are the
problems fixed by now? I still have the version from September which
rather works and try to avoid potential
Am Freitag 27 November 2009 14:48:26 schrieb Vaudano Luca:
I saw now the SHR recipe.
I don't know why, but it is on revision 288 instead of 294.
The latest version without problems, it is on opkg website.
(I solved also the 'Invalid magic' problem)
Ciao
Luca
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 1:51
Am Freitag 27 November 2009 15:11:33 schrieb Vaudano Luca:
Oh sorry my bad!
Thanks for including my project in the feed!
Ciao Luca
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Thomas Zimmermann m...@vdm-design.de wrote:
Am Freitag 27 November 2009 14:48:26 schrieb Vaudano Luca:
I saw now the SHR
Am Montag 23 November 2009 01:16:04 schrieb Cristian Gómez:
In my previous post I forgot to put the link
[1] http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/
Sorry about that
full-om-gta02.jffs2 is always a symlink to the latest image
greets
Am Freitag 20 November 2009 14:16:54 schrieb Steven Le Roux:
Congrats for the great work !
I just wonder, there is still a lot of work or is there any other
reason to not integrate paroli ?
There is still a lot of work that has to be done. In both places SHR and
Paroli.
If your are
-- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --
Betreff: [Shr-User] SHR-unstable got a facelift. And you a christmas
present
Datum: Donnerstag 19 November 2009
Von: Sebastian Spaeth sebast...@sspaeth.de
An: SHR-devel shr-de...@lists.shr-project.org, SHR-user shr-
Original discusion is at shr-us...@lists.shr-project.org, it would be best if
all users interested in SHR join that list.
I will forward important Messages to community@lists.openmoko.org but not
everything.
-- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --
Betreff: Re: [Shr-Devel] [Shr-User]
-- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --
Betreff: [Shr-User] What's going on (3)
Datum: Dienstag 17 November 2009
Von: Sebastian Spaeth sebast...@sspaeth.de
An: SHR-user shr-u...@lists.shr-project.org
Hi all,
every day we think, THIS is the day we finally push out the new
shr-unstable,
Am Donnerstag 12 November 2009 10:53:15 schrieb Patryk Benderz:
Hello everybody, recent Community Update is out!
Take a look at:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2009-11-11
and contribute to the new draft at:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2009-11-25
For the SHR users that aren't reading the SHR mailing lists i'm forwarding
this message from spaetz:
Betreff: [Shr-User] What's going on in SHR land
Datum: Sonntag 01 November 2009
Von: Sebastian Spaeth sebast...@sspaeth.de
An: shr-de...@lists.shr-project.org, shr-u...@lists.shr-project.org
Am Sonntag 01 November 2009 17:20:31 schrieb jeremy jozwik:
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Thomas Zimmermann
zimmerm...@vdm-design.de wrote:
For the SHR users that aren't reading the SHR mailing lists i'm
forwarding this message from spaetz:
Hi all, for those of you few that do not live
Am Mittwoch 28 Oktober 2009 12:10:39 schrieb Davide Scaini:
Hi guys,
i would like to build some packages for shr that i feel i miss (like
gnuplot or so... and maybe do some stupid interface, but not in the
immediate future). Where do i start? I tried to find a source on the
openmoko wiki,
Am Montag 26 Oktober 2009 16:08:26 schrieb jeremy jozwik:
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Marcel tan...@googlemail.com wrote:
Moin,
I played around with E's scaling too much, can someone tell me the
default dpi set in E's scaling settings? Setting 285dpi gives a far too
small gui...
Am Samstag 24 Oktober 2009 10:08:22 schrieb Tony Berth:
I think it used to exist a file called 'phonelog.db' in the past? I can't
fond that any more. Where is phonelog saving the current data? How can I
export them, view or delete?
Thanks
Tony
Phonelog uses calls backend of opimd. So
Am Freitag 23 Oktober 2009 20:56:18 schrieb Greg Bonett:
Hi,
I'm running an unstable image from Aug 8th. opkg-cl
update; opkg-cl upgrade; gives the following error:
* ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for fsousaged:
* libfso-glib0 (=
Am Donnerstag 22 Oktober 2009 07:57:15 schrieb Matthias Huber:
Thomas Zimmermann schrieb:
Am Mittwoch 21 Oktober 2009 22:35:38 schrieb ajvogel:
Thomas Zimmermann wrote:
To build the whole feed you have to download about 6 GByte of
Sourcepackages.
Just for 1 package it won't be that much
Am Donnerstag 22 Oktober 2009 13:33:22 schrieb William Kenworthy:
I am building shr-unstable locally and tried 9.7 when it first came out
- often crashed when changing between certain resolutions. Not sure if
it was the -r1 version or if that has fixed the problem? It is in the
shr-u builds
Am Donnerstag 22 Oktober 2009 13:17:42 schrieb Matthias Huber:
Thomas Zimmermann schrieb:
Send me all information for the recipe, or better a recipe and the needed
patch.
Here we go,
wenn noch was nicht stimmt, bitte Rückmeldung an mich,
werd's korrigieren und auf neuere Versionen
Am Dienstag 20 Oktober 2009 16:59:04 schrieb abatrour:
Does anyone remember who was assigned to work on glamo while openmoko was
still developing software?
I'm trying to round up some of the old crew to see if I can gather some
knowledge and possibly some code to help get the glamo working
Am Mittwoch 21 Oktober 2009 11:26:35 schrieb Laszlo KREKACS:
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Thomas Zimmermann
zimmerm...@vdm-design.de wrote:
You should look at the IRC Channel, we are speaking nearly every day
about Xorg and xf86-video-glamo.
#openmoko-cdevel
Am Mittwoch 21 Oktober 2009 20:40:56 schrieb ajvogel:
matzehuber wrote:
here is what i found:
http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Howto%20get%20my%20application%20in%20t
he%20SHR%20feed
As far as I understand you have to setup the SHR environment by downloading
the Makefile and running make
Am Mittwoch 21 Oktober 2009 22:35:38 schrieb ajvogel:
Thomas Zimmermann wrote:
To build the whole feed you have to download about 6 GByte of
Sourcepackages.
Just for 1 package it won't be that much, perhaps about 2 GByte.
And during build it will connect several times to some git
Am Montag 21 September 2009 18:43:37 schrieb Marcus Bauer:
Heya out there!
First of all thanks for the many positive emails I got over the last
months, motivating me to bring a new release of tangoGPS to the coolest
open hardware gadget on earth - the openmoko phone.
The new features
Am Dienstag 22 September 2009 11:33:34 schrieb Robin Paulson:
2009/9/22 Marcus Bauer marcus.ba...@gmail.com:
First of all thanks for the many positive emails I got over the last
months, motivating me to bring a new release of tangoGPS to the coolest
open hardware gadget on earth - the
Am Dienstag 22 September 2009 17:00:22 schrieb D. Gassen:
Hi all,
Since I recently upgraded Midori from 0.0.x to 0.1.x that is now
regularly updated in the SHR-U feeds Midori doesn't want to display
WAP pages anymore (mime type: text/vnd.wap.wml, example:
http://www.bofa.mobi ) but rather
Am Montag 21 September 2009 10:58:15 schrieb Łukasz Pankowski:
Hi
I have removed libeflvala from dependencies in ffalarms.bb as ffalarms.c
is included in the source tarball so valac should not start if you
compile from source tarball.
It is that way to minimize compilation problems, for
Am Montag 21 September 2009 13:58:16 schrieb Marcel:
Moin!
I've written a little python app that can count down for a given amount
of time, either just seconds or hh:mm. I always missed that feature in
ffalarms (which also only does 5min-steps, not sufficient for my needs)
but I'm not
Am Samstag 19 September 2009 14:20:12 schrieb Łukasz Pankowski:
Hi
I have just released ffalarms 0.2.4. Features:
- now looks like other Elementary programs
- LED clock: add configuration option to change color of LED digits.
You can change the color by setting ``color`` to ``red,
Am Montag 14 September 2009 13:49:56 schrieb Martin Jansa:
Now I've repacked all your files to one tarball and I'm using it locally
but before sending patch incorporating theme to shr we need files
somewhere (SCM would be better, tarball good, extracting your ipkgs just
to get files to pack
Am Donnerstag 10 September 2009 11:00:59 schrieb arne anka:
after having trashed my debian/fso for the moment, i decided to try out
shr for a while until i get fso working again.
while i try to read almost all mails on community, i can't claim to have
followed the shr development that close.
Am Dienstag 01 September 2009 22:33:53 schrieb Fox Mulder:
Kahless wrote:
hi all,
I'm interested in fixing my #1024 bug but i don't want to send it
somewhere. (it's my main phone and i love it too much :) )
Is anyone near /North-Rhine/-Westphalia interested in starting a small
bug
Am Freitag 28 August 2009 09:48:46 schrieb Niels Heyvaert:
Shouldn't be very hard but it'd be extremely cool. Integration to a
distro (SHR maybe :) might be a bit more of a hack (adding GUI to
enable/disable this feature etc) though..
Yes, it does sound like a cool feature, as long as it
Am Donnerstag 27 August 2009 00:08:44 schrieb Kero van Gelder:
If you set _at_least_one to some non-false value, opimd will switch
into at least one field mode. Query {'Name':'dos', 'Content' :
'Test', '_at_least_one': True} will return entries with Name = dos
*or* Content = Test. Without
Am Donnerstag 27 August 2009 11:41:42 schrieb Al Johnson:
On Thursday 27 August 2009, Thomas Zimmermann wrote:
Am Donnerstag 27 August 2009 00:08:44 schrieb Kero van Gelder:
If you set _at_least_one to some non-false value, opimd will switch
into at least one field mode. Query {'Name
Am Mittwoch 12 August 2009 17:34:24 schrieb c_c:
Hi,
I agree - it does seem rather chaotic. We should move to a poll.
Here are my candidates (obviously limited by what I use):-
Neon, Orrery, numptyphysics, sms-sentry
I suggest to discuss programs on ML and just move the vote to the
Am Donnerstag 06 August 2009 09:09:58 schrieb Michael Pilgermann:
Many thanks for all your input ...
I had noticed already by going through the opimd code / db scheme that the
selection of fields is dynamic.
However, I think there is really a need to agree upon a common set of
attributes
Am Mittwoch 05 August 2009 15:46:12 schrieb Helge Hafting:
Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
On 8/4/09, Brock awwa...@thelackthereof.org wrote:
this actually difficult or is it a matter of nobody having the time /
care to do it?
I think noone cares. I don't need MMS at all,
Yes, we care.
Am Mittwoch 24 Juni 2009 22:25:47 schrieb Jon Levell:
Vagalume in the repo/image
==
It crashes
Workaround: Use the one from opkg.org
I've added a bug report including a new .bb for vagalume to OE a month ago,
but nobody cares. And on the SHR trac a similar bug report
Hi,
there is a discussion on the shr-user mailinglist to add intone as default mp3
player to the full image.
But to do this it's nesecary that the current version in the svn builds.
So it would be nice if you commit only code that builds to the svn und add the
images used in intone and the
Am Freitag 24 April 2009 12:20:00 schrieb Robin Paulson:
2009/4/24 Ben Thompson b...@york.ac.uk:
ok, i'm confused now. why do i want to run this on my host? the
problem's with the phone, isn't it?
I don't know why, but the interface name on my host changed. For me it's now
eth1.
dmesg looks
Am Dienstag 21 April 2009 06:33:05 schrieb Konstantin:
Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
give GPRS a try. works out of the box for me
(as do lots of other things, midori e.g. Me was googling with O2-loop and
right APN within 3 min ;)
/j
Speaking of O2, I was looking for the right settings for O2
Am Sunday 08 March 2009 14:30:36 schrieb Risto H. Kurppa:
On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Tobias Kündig tobias.kuen...@gmail.com
wrote:
This is a little summary of what I do: http://www.opkg.org/repo.html
Thanks Tobias!
At #openmoko tried to figure out what's wrong. Someone pointed out
2.5mm.
If you want to buy some earphones for a mobile, than you will get only some
with 2.5mm connectors.
Thomas
Am Freitag 30 Mai 2008 09:35:36 schrieb Rahul Joshi:
Exactly. 3.5mm for the same reason.
Are there any tangible benefits to using 2.5mm though?
Rahul J
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