Re: FOSDEM 2010: Devroom for openmoko declined

2009-12-01 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2009/12/2 PieterC : > I do not think we should shake our heads (please don't ;-) ). We should team > up with the mobile and embedded guys and do our thing. Definitely! I'm not sure about the deadlines, but the sooner the better. I'm not sure if I should again cover the kernel mode-setting and tell

Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-30 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2009/12/29 Risto H. Kurppa : > Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Yes. > Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Yes. > What distribution you run most of the time? Debian. Quite happy nowadays to about everything except lack of 3G data and well, also the GPRS hickups that need some care no

New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner

2010-01-08 Thread Timo Jyrinki
Hi, Just FYI to the community list, as slowness has been one of the biggest problems with Neo. Quite nice speedups are coming: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2010-January/010811.html (performance testing by Gennady Kupava) Apparently, and unfortunately, no-one had really que

Re: Alternatives to FR

2010-01-08 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/1/4 William Kenworthy : > Nokia n900 - probably the best choice at this time. Probably, but to be more precise "not yet" instead of "at this time". It's the only one that seems to have realistic possibility of some day having a free distribution running with all features enabled. But it's not

Re: Alternatives to FR

2010-01-08 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/1/9 Warren Baird : >> having a free distribution running with all features enabled. But it's > > Depends a bit on how you define 'free'...   I interact with a phone mostly > as a user, and possibly as a app developer - so for me if I can run free > software on it, and I can develop free softwa

Re: [debian] minor enhancements

2010-01-11 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/1/12 Neil Jerram : > - In zhone, keep current SMS selected when returning from the SMS > display screen. You could try to submit that to upstream [1] as well. Since it's demo UI "only", the upstream isn't developing it much but probably accepts patches. I've a patch I need that adds support f

Re: literki update

2010-01-15 Thread Timo Jyrinki
>> And here you can find the source code (thanks to Christof and Christian): >> http://git.senfdax.de/?p=literki;a=summary I switched from matchbox-keyboard to literki yesterday evening on Debian. I wanted just the keyboard, so I patched it to remove everything else especially as those elements se

Re: qspectemu - zx spectrum emulator port for Freerunner

2010-01-17 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/1/13 Radek Polak : > i have just finished porting of spectemu[1] to Qt and Freerunner. Thanks. I have to check how my BASIC programs from ca. 1989-1990 work on my Neo :) -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http:/

Re: [debian/fso] how to enable wlan again?

2010-01-19 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/1/16 arne anka : > qdbus --system org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage > org.freesmartphone.Usage.SetResourcePolicy WiFi enabled lindi found out that the new kernel is "too fast" which randomly fails the ar6000 initialization: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2327 I also

Re: debian/fso on freerunner

2010-01-20 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/1/20 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer : >> IMO Debian will eventually assimilate everything, including SHR. >> (Unless there is some major advantage of the OE build and packaging ... > Well, I've been hearing that for almost a decade now, but still systems > like buildroot, OpenEmbedded, OpenWRT, t2-pro

Re: [debian] minor enhancements

2010-01-27 Thread Timo Jyrinki
(forgot to answer to this) 2010/1/12 Neil Jerram : >>> - In zhone, keep current SMS selected when returning from the SMS >>> display screen. >> >> You could try to submit that to upstream [1] as well. > > I regard all of my patches as "submitted upstream", by virtue of > having been announced here

Re: New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner

2010-01-29 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/1/29 Josh Thompson : > Thanks for providing this kernel.  I've been very happy with the speedups. I was happy to be the messenger towards the community list. > However, I seem to be missing the usb gadget kernel modules.  I can't seem to > find them, and I'd like to be able to use the usb ne

Re: [ANN] Freerunner GTA02A7+ on regular sales

2010-01-29 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/1/29 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller : > to further improve the Freerunner hardware, we have done another > upgrade and are now the first to sell the new variant GTA02A7+ from > stock. > > The difference to the A7 is that the #1024 rework ("recamping bug") > has already been applied. Great news! My

Re: [Debian] new kernel package

2010-02-21 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/2/21 Neil Jerram : '> Apart from factoring out those modules, is the new kernel improved in > some way?  And is it built without the debug settings? It's the latest upstream andy-tracking, mostly meaning that if compared to July snapshot Bluetooth, GPS etc. should handle suspend better among

Re: What to do with Freerunner / neo1973?

2010-03-07 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/3/7 Jay Vaughan : '> Well after a year I've finally dug out these two gadgets and am > wondering .. what to do with them?  Anyone got any tips / tricks / > suggestions for what to do with these old devices?  I'd really like to > catch up with you guys that are getting some value out of these >

Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-13 Thread Timo Jyrinki
Hi, I just bought myself A7+ FreeRunner since my A5 started to have its USB port breaking, buzz fix faltering, display problematic, plastic case pins broken etc. (1,5+ years of very heavy use:)). I just noticed that A7 requires much lower microphone settings than A5, something known but often forg

Re: Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-15 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/3/16 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra : '> You may call my tests misinformation, but I'll calmly go on with usable > sound settings with which I can be heard even from a noisy restaurant by > *NOT*USING* the "Correct" setting. I am not claiming the "wrong" settings would not help. The main thing is th

Re: Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-16 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/3/16 Neil Jerram : > I have to support Rui here.  I find this over-theoretical argument > really annoying. Sorry about that, and sorry about the term "misinformation" I used in the first post. > Do you understand 100% the operation of the Wolfson codec? No. But I do believe Jöerg has better

Re: [Debian,QtMoko] X server and rotation

2010-03-24 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/3/24 Radek Polak : > i have been struggling for some time to get X server working in landscape > mode. I was trying: > > - Xglamo with xrandr - screen always goes white, reboot needed > - Xglamo -screen 480x...@90 - does not work either, screen is somehow shifted > - Xorg with fbdev driver and

[Debian] "Timo's Debian" instructions available for Neo FreeRunner

2010-03-24 Thread Timo Jyrinki
Hi, Setting up my second FreeRunner, I took time to find out and document how I ended up with my current Debian setup in use (or close to something like it) and cleaned up my configs while at it. This information might be interesting to beginning Debian / Neo users, who may find the default Debian

Re: [Debian,QtMoko] X server and rotation

2010-03-25 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/3/25 Radek Polak : > I tried xserver-xorg-video-glamo, but no success either. I thought so, just had to check. >> I have (had) a button (for a year) in my Debian that switches between >> xrandr -o right and xrandr -o normal without problems. > > Can you please tell, which kernel are you usin

[Community Updates] 2010-04-01 is out

2010-04-06 Thread Timo Jyrinki
Hi all, Recent Community Update is out! Take a look at "News" link in "Community" box on wiki pages to read it. A text version of the update is included beneath this text, but it's partially more readable, and especially clickable, in the wiki. For your convenience here is direct link: http://wik

Re: AAVA Mobile?

2010-04-06 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/4/6 arne anka : >> The issue is really what they mean by "open". So far I think it means "we have not restricted flashing different software on the device, the restrictions can be added by you, our future customer with deep pockets, who will be selling the actual end-user hardware to people".

Re: beautiful qt based

2010-04-08 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/4/8 Christoph Pulster : > excellent idea - this is exactly what Openmoko missed to do to get more > interested customers (besides geeks). Yes. > I check status of Openmoko and come to the result: > OM Inc.: zombie Mostly, but especially they have moved away from phones to other areas. > Co

Re: tangoGPS community development, patches (was: tangoGPS magnify patch)

2010-04-12 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/4/12 Joshua Judson Rosen : > So, how *should* I collaborate? What mailing-list should I use? > When I fix an upstream bug, in what BTS should I publish the patch? > Where can we talk on IRC about current developments in tangoGPS, > if anywhere? I agree. After my second translation patch (fixi

Re: tangoGPS community development, patches (was: tangoGPS magnify patch)

2010-04-12 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/4/12 Marcus Bauer : > Essentially it is the constant threads about forks that have been > started and fuelled over and over again by Risto that keep me having > always a few aces in my sleeve and restricting access to people who I > have confidence that they keep the project over their ego. I

Re: [QtMoko] Debian package for v21

2010-04-16 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/4/14 Vincent Meurisse : > Debian package for QtMoko v21 are ready. Instruction for update are located at > . Can those be used to install Qt Extended Improved / QtMoko on top of normal Debian? Or any plans on properly packaging Qt Extended Improved to Debian? J

Re: Triggering Literki from command line?

2010-04-16 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/4/16 Neil Jerram : > literki & > > But is that what you meant? He certainly meant unhiding the keyboard of already running literki process. -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/li

Netbook Launcher EFL on FreeRunner for launching applications

2010-05-06 Thread Timo Jyrinki
Hi, I compiled Ubuntu's Enlightenment version of their Netbook Launcher on FreeRunner, and it's working relatively nicely! My main problem is the green background :P http://users.tkk.fi/~tajyrink/moko/netbook_launcher_efl_on_freerunner.png Has anyone else tried it out? Or just feel free to jump

Re: Netbook Launcher EFL on FreeRunner for launching applications

2010-05-07 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/5/7 Vinzenz Hersche : > hey, wow, looks nice :) > > could you pack this to a image/tar? Sure. http://users.tkk.fi/~tajyrink/moko/netbook-launcher-efl/. Both debs and tar.gz:s created with alien. Zero guarantees, dependencies look to be: libeina, libecore, libevas, libeet, libedje, libelementa

Re: andy-tracking and gdrm-2.6.32

2010-05-17 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/5/16 mobi phil : > I am a bit confused with the kernel branches... I assume that > om-gta02-2.6.32 is the 2.6.32 kernel version one people are > experimenting in distros... However I was reading references to the > drm/kms changes in those distros, but your kms/drm changes do not seem > to be

Re: My N900 experience compared to my FR experience (was: Re: [QtMoko] handset is (almost) unusable for voice calls with background noise)

2010-07-07 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/7/7 Brolin Empey : > I know the N900’s kernel is relatively old (2.6.28.x) and the N900 is > less open than the FR, but this does not matter to me because it is an > acceptable compromise in order to have a far better experience with a > more powerful and current device. Sure, a finished prod

Re: My N900 experience compared to my FR experience (was: Re: [QtMoko] handset is (almost) unusable for voice calls with background noise)

2010-07-07 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/7/7 Sebastian Reichel : > https://elektranox.org/website/debian_on_n900.html Thanks for your great work with Debian on N900. I do look forward to 2011 or 2012 to eventually do a switch from FreeRunner, and N900 is one (and currently best) possibility. It wouldn't hurt, though, if some truly (

Re: Glamo slowness question. Glamo transfer speed improvements (+33%). Video sofdecoding playing profile. Glamo dma transfer.

2010-07-18 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/7/17 Gennady Kupava : > Here is my next rant to freerunner slowness :) A great way to rant :) The glamo timing fix seems to work great here so far. Regarding the older thread, I finally tested also it with the 500/83 CPU/memclock setting (533/88 hanged during boot when most of the system was

[Community Updates] 2010-08-01 is out

2010-08-04 Thread Timo Jyrinki
Hi, Newest community update now available at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2010-08-01 and simplified text version below. Thanks for the latest edition to: - Martix - Sre - Hns - TimoJyrinki - Cmair ( as usual, you can help out with the next edition at http://wiki.openmoko.org/w

Re: [Shr-User] [Community Updates] 2010-08-01 is out

2010-08-04 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/8/4 Patryk Benderz : > Thanks guys! Although QtMoko v24 was released and described in June: That's why it says there has been no new releases since last update, and reports on what's happening regarding the future release :) I think the distribution parts do not need new releases to be inclu

Re: [Debian] new kernel package

2010-08-09 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/3/3 Sebastian Reichel : >> I think both ext3 and jffs2 should be built-in since they are the two >> kinds of filesystems most widely used on the FR. > Ok, I will reenable this one, too. I uploaded a new 2.6.29 kernel to Debian's pkg-fso repository yesterday. It includes some of Sebastian's ea

Re: WikiReader sales and the future of Openmoko

2010-08-19 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/8/20 Jim Ancona : > True with respect to most phones, because hardware manufacturers don't > release their drivers. Not true with respect to the Freerunner. In any > case, Android is exactly as free as Linux is, because you would have > exactly the same problem running any Linux-based OS on th

[Community Updates] 2010-09-01 is out

2010-09-01 Thread Timo Jyrinki
Hi, Newest community update now available at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2010-09-01 and plain text version below. In addition to myself the latest edition was brought to you by: - Sre - Leadman - Toams ( as usual, you can help out with the next edition at http://wiki.openmoko

Re: wiki.openmoko.org unreachable?

2010-10-07 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/10/7 Joerg Reisenweber : > hetzner moved irons. fs needed fsck and other service, after 2 years 'uptime' > Central Services (aka roh, gismo) is taking care of it. > ETA unknown yet. Thanks for letting us know. -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing

Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

2010-10-09 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/10/6 Edder : > Will it support headphone, with a microphone? I think it's safe nowadays to just assume Bluetooth headphones, ie. not all devices need the extra plugs if something has to be sacrificed. 2010/10/6 giacomo 'giotti' mariani : > Looks like it miss USB connectivity and I need SSH s

[Debian] 2.6.34 Openmoko kernel package available

2010-10-18 Thread Timo Jyrinki
Hi, During the weekend I did a few cross-builds, emulated native builds and finally native builds of the 2.6.34 Openmoko kernel for Debian. It's now available at the pkg-fso repository [1]. It's basically identical in code and configuration to Radek's qtmoko-v27 git branch [2], with the added comp

[Community Updates] 2010-11-01 is out!

2010-11-01 Thread Timo Jyrinki
Hi, Newest community update now available at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2010-11-01 and plain text version below. In addition to myself, the latest edition was brought to you by: - Hns - Rohezal - PaulWise - Vanous ( as usual, you can help out with the next edition at http://

Re: [Debian] 2.6.34 Openmoko kernel package available

2010-11-14 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/10/18 Timo Jyrinki : > [1] http://pkg-fso.nomeata.de/sid/linux-image-2.6.34-openmoko-gta02 > [3] > http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-fso/linux-2.6-openmoko.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/debian-2.6.34 New Debian pkg-fso kernel available: linux-2.6-openmoko (20101108.git1508bbb5-1) pkg-fso

Re: MeeGo 1.1 for FreeRunner?

2010-11-16 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/11/16 Gay, John (GE Energy Services, Non-GE) : > Does anyone know how difficult it would be to port MeeGo to the > FreeRunner? Well, it would require re-compiling MeeGo for ARMv4. I've been thinking about it, but more likely though I'll take a look at the handset UIs available and see about p

Re: [Debian] aplay/mplayer broken with pkg-fso linux-image-2.6.34-openmoko-gta02?

2010-11-19 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/11/19 Paul Wise : > Is anyone else having broken audio on Debian with pkg-fso > linux-image-2.6.34-openmoko-gta02? Timo Jyrinki can reproduce it with > one GTA02 but not with another one. Here are some symptoms: And the one I can reproduce it with is up-to-date sid, while the on

Re: [Debian] aplay/mplayer broken with pkg-fso linux-image-2.6.34-openmoko-gta02?

2010-11-20 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/11/19 Gennady Kupava : > I've noticed problem with alsa too. Guess that this may be related to > 100hz patch, probably need to review neo-specific code in kernel. Ok, if that's it, even though it seemingly depends on other factors as well, please Debian users notice the following: * http://p

[Community Updates] 2010-12-01 issue is out!

2010-12-01 Thread Timo Jyrinki
Newest community update now available at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2010-12-01 and plain text version below. This issue was brought to you by: - Toams - Valos - TimoJyrinki ( as usual, you can help out with the next issue at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Dr

Re: No plans for fennec on the FR

2010-12-03 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/12/3 Delian : > Seems there's no hope of seeing a native FR version of fennec right now. [0] > Well, we already have nice browsers so,  it's not a real big problem (IMHO). > :P > [0] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=450929#c4 Well, Mozilla is not very famous of having much interes

Re: [Debian] 2.6.34 Openmoko kernel package available

2010-12-15 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/11/14 Timo Jyrinki : > > http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-fso/linux-2.6-openmoko.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/debian-2.6.34 > > New Debian pkg-fso kernel available: And another one thanks to having inspirational time yesterday evening. Note that the original three 2.6.34 related cavea

Re: [Debian] 2.6.34 Openmoko kernel package available

2010-12-17 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/12/16 Neil Jerram : > Even after removing the /dev/input files as you suggested (in > /etc/rc.local), my observation is that XOrg still eats all CPU after > an initial boot-up, but that if I then do "/etc/init.d/nodm stop" and > "/etc/init.d/nodm start", it returns to using a normal (small) am

Re: [ANN]: GTA04 (Beagleboard inspired Openmoko Upgrade) - Early Adpoter Program

2010-12-21 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/12/21 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller : > So we are very confident that the already scheduled redesign > (GTA04A3) will work right from the beginning and boot Linux. > > This looks like the start of the aera of new Openmoko devices. This is indeed the first time after Neo1973 and FreeRunner that the

[Community Updates] 2011-02-01 issue is out!

2011-02-03 Thread Timo Jyrinki
Newest community update now available at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2011-02-01 and plain text version below. This issue was brought to you by: - Toams - Hns - PaulWise - Ssam - TimoJyrinki ( as usual, you can help out with the next issue at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Comm

[Debian] 2.6.37 kernel available (and about the touch screen X driver problem)

2011-04-28 Thread Timo Jyrinki
reen-eve.patch * Adjust Maintainer and Uploaders -- Timo Jyrinki Thu, 28 Apr 2011 18:22:36 +0300 linux-2.6-openmoko (20101212.git049b71de-1) pkg-fso; urgency=low * Merge from qtmoko-v31 - Kernel 2.6.34.7 - Integrated GPS suspend patch, resume reason patch - Dumb battery support * Disabl

[Community Updates] 2011-05-01 issue is out

2011-05-03 Thread Timo Jyrinki
Newest community update now available at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2011-05-01 and plain text version below. This issue was brought to you by: * Hns * Nhv * Psonek * TimoJyrinki ( as usual, you can help out with the next issue at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Update

Re: About QtMoko future (and Qt Extended -> Qt in general)

2011-05-08 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2011/5/7 Joif : > But to date, I have not a clear vision about the current situation and the > future of QtMoko, so I want to ask some questions to developers. I'm a Debian developer, but not QtMoko developer. I feel though that I can answer some of the questions from my perspective. > 1) QtMoko

Re: About QtMoko future

2011-05-11 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2011/5/9 Radek Polak : > qtopia => qt extended => qt extended improved => QtMoko ... > From technical point of view QtMoko is using regular Qt as framework for GUI, > networking and other nice features that Qt supports. Qt is just compiled with > custom configure switches. We can upgrade Qt from up

Re: About QtMoko future

2011-05-16 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2011/5/16 Alfa21-mobile : >> Then we need debian packages for FSO stack (anyone know if they exists and >> what is the current status?) and we can start using it. > > you can look here: > > http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=fso&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all + a few newer versions of th

Re: ZX spectrum emulator doesn't appears

2011-06-06 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2011/6/2 Dmitry Shalnoff : > Hi everybody, > I'm trying to install ZX spectrum emulator form official repository but it's > doesn't appears in the list of games and home/you/.qspectemu directory wasn't > created. Is Spectemu btw developed somewhere still? At least the places I could find were de

Re: ZX spectrum emulator doesn't appears

2011-06-06 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2011/6/6 Radek Polak : >> http://activationrecord.net/radekp/qspectemu/ > > Erm sorry i was reading wrong. the original page really does not work now > (except i get 403 ;-) Right, just that :) Ok anyway, thanks for information. -Timo ___ Openmoko com

Re: [pkg-fso-maint] udev 171-1 and linux 2.6.29 and 2.6.34

2011-06-16 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2011/6/16 Timo Juhani Lindfors : > udev 171-1 does not support linux 2.6.29 or 2.6.34 on ARM. This is due > to use of accept4 syscall among other reasons. Afaik it was implemented > in 2.6.32 but not wired (=enabled) for ARM until 2.6.36(?). > > As Frederic Wagner pointed on IRC it might be just en

Re: [debian] cannot bootstrap libc6

2011-07-01 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2011/7/1 Dmitry Chistikov : > I'm trying to install Debian on Openmoko Freerunner and have encountered > the following problem. Both cdebootstrap and debootstrap fail to install > a basic Debian system (stage "debian" of install.sh). Packages are > downloaded and extracted, but dpkg is refusing to

Re: openmoko neo --- Debian install from scratch now works (was: fails)

2011-08-19 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2011/7/20 e.waelde : > as of yesterday evening, installing a neo from scratch fails. I compiled again the 2.6.34 kernel yesterday evening, and uploaded it and got it finally properly into pkg-fso repository where as the working kernel used to linger in the incoming directory because of a few repre

Re: openmoko neo --- Debian install from scratch now works

2011-08-19 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2011/8/17 Timo Juhani Lindfors : > Timo Jyrinki writes: >> 6. Get a bit more software manually: apt-get install foxtrotgps gpsd >> navit midori wicd lxterminal xorg zhone/experimental >> python-ecore/experimental python-edje/experimental >> python-evas/experimental zho

[Community Updates] 2011-09-01 issue is out

2011-08-31 Thread Timo Jyrinki
News *** Most important and change making mails on the mailing lists, blogs etc.. Coolest hacks, screenshots, themes etc.. - Tiago Vaz blogged about his VoIP setup in Neo FreeRunner: http://tiagovaz.org/posts/VoIP_in_Neo_Freerunner_with_Qtmoko_and_Linphone/ - Timo Jyrinki blogged about fre

Re: [Shr-User] [Community Updates] 2011-09-01 issue is out

2011-09-01 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2011/9/1 Simon Busch : > Thats not correct. Aurora is not only a new UI based on the FSO2 > middleware. It is a distribution too and is not based on SHR! Aurora > will be the default development base for FSO in the near future as we > need to target the needs of a user and for that we need to devel

[Debian] Preinstalled minimal image available for Neo FreeRunner

2011-09-12 Thread Timo Jyrinki
Hi, Just to let you know, that since I tested that install.sh [1] is working now, I'm making available a snapshot of a minimal Debian installation since I had a clean install anyway [2] - see file "Debian_NeoFreeRunner_minimalrootfs_20110912.tar.xz". The only additional thing that was done was apt

Re: [Debian] Preinstalled minimal image available for Neo FreeRunner

2011-09-19 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2011/9/20 Aditya Gandhi : > Hi I have installed your image and have given the commands via ssh >  apt-get install foxtrotgps gpsd navit omhacks monav midori wicd lxterminal > but no gui is up, how do I get it working? I do not have a sim, do I need > it? Like I said, "It is very much not functiona

Re: openmoko neo --- Debian install from scratch now works

2011-09-19 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2011/9/20 Aditya Gandhi : > I did this but I only have the thin bar on top of freerunner, how do I start > zphone after this? If you installed Zhone from experimental, you still need to add it to .xsession file (eg. "zhone &") so that it automatically starts together with X similar to the openmoko

Re: Sharing literki work

2011-10-17 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2011/10/16 Neil Jerram : > Hi there.  I'm doing some incremental work with literki, and wanted to share > that in case it's of interest to more than just me. Yes! I still found literki the most interesting keyboard around, which is why I packaged it in Debian (some patches at [1], probably not int

Re: Sharing literki work

2011-10-17 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2011/10/17 Neil Jerram : > Yes.  My idea about that is that I'd like the Input Method (IM) system to > tell a small server program (which is pretending to be an IM engine) when > keyboard input is needed, and then that program could run literki and make > sure that it is on top.  Do you think that

Re: Nokia N9 and Meego

2011-10-25 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2011/10/24 Xavier Cremaschi : > is there anyone here following the Nokia N9, the new Nokia's phone with > Meego ? What exactly is free-as-in-speech in this one ? Well I touched the issue a bit in Debian's wiki: http://wiki.debian.org/Mobile/Nokia_N9 The whole MeeGo Touch Framework, used also in N

Re: [Gta04-owner] Status GTA04 GroupTour

2011-12-30 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2011/12/29 Neal H. Walfield : > First, if someone orders a GTA04, that person doesn't get all the > hardware--that person needs to have a GTA01 or GTA02 and do some > non-trivial assembly.  I realize that you have some cases that you are > selling, which is the route that I went, but I think these

Re: [Debian] Preinstalled minimal image available for Neo FreeRunner

2012-03-21 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2011/9/12 Timo Jyrinki : > Just to let you know, that since I tested that install.sh [1] is > working now, I'm making available a snapshot of a minimal Debian > installation since I had a clean install anyway [2] - see file > "Debian_NeoFreeRunner_minimalrootfs_20110912.ta

Re: [Debian] Preinstalled minimal image available for Neo FreeRunner

2012-03-24 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2012/3/23 Thomas Günther : > With your rootfs my Neo does boot. I can login via ssh but I only have > a white bar at top on display. If I stop nodm I get a debian login > prompt at top on display. Any idea what happens? That's the "minimal" part of it. It is generous enough to offer you a tray ico

Re: openmoko.org servers

2012-03-25 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2012/3/25 Bob Ham : >> admins are still Roh and Gismo afaik >> "ownership" (aka payment) went to Harald Welte (see "Name Server" above) > > I'm a little confused.  Perhaps I'm being obtuse here but why haven't > any of these people responded to my original email? I'd guess Roh and Gismo are mostly

Re: debian with illume

2012-03-25 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2012/3/25 arne anka : > zhone is dead. use phoneui-apps. ...updated the openmoko wiki to reflect this. -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: debian + phoneui-apps

2012-03-26 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2012/3/26 Brendon Schumacker : > I have phoneui-apps install, and I have both XFCE4 and e17 installed > and working fine, but they can't open Dialer, Contacts, etc.  When I > try phoneui-dialer at the cli I get: > > Error: No such interface `org.shr.phoneui.Dialer' on object at path > /org/shr/phon

Re: debian + phoneui-apps

2012-03-27 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2012/3/26 Timo Jyrinki : > However, after that I get an Enlightenment complaint about not being > able to create a new window for each of the same apps that complained > about the D-Bus interface earlier. phoneui-apps apparently is missing some dependency, filed bug #665951. After insta

Re: debian + phoneui-apps

2012-04-02 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2012/4/2 Brendon Schumacker : > Unfortunately it seems I have killed my openmoko from playing with it > too much.  Perhaps you have some advice for this? > > I can not start the phone with the regular power button anymore, it > might show a red light for a moment on the aux button, but then it > di

Re: server update

2012-05-23 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2012/5/23 Harald Welte : > Also, the fact when a particular event happens, and how it is publicized > is always considere important in the corporate world.  Now if you like > that or not, Openmoko Inc. was (and still is) a commercial entity.  And > it's up to its management to decide when and to wh

Re: Entry level Ubuntu smartphone

2013-01-04 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2013/1/4 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller : >>> The OpenPhoneux should not be tied and favour one specific OS. It >>> should be and remain open to run everthing! >> I meant only branding. Like putting a sticker with Ubuntu Logo on >> back/front of the phone. For me it was obvious, that the phone itself >>

Re: FreeRunner delayed a further 6 months?!?!??

2008-03-14 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/3/14, Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Wake up, folks Hello. I think I'm awake. > If you want a device that's been out for a long time, has a bigger and > higher-resolution screen, and *just works* right out of the box, get > yourself a Nokia N800 (or if you have money to burn, an N810 First

Re: FreeRunner delayed a further 6 months?!?!??

2008-03-17 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/3/15, Mark Haury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > ...and the Neo *is* fully open? What about the graphics module, the > gps module, and the gsm module? They are as open as it is possible to get gsm/gps technology under international regulatory laws, which is pretty much the best you can hope for until

Re: FreeRunner delayed a further 6 months?!?!??

2008-03-18 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/3/18, Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>Yes, it plays many closed, proprietary formats out-of-the-box, but >>none of the open formats like ogg vorbis, ogg theora, flac, speex, >>dirac. So it does not play any of my music out-of-the-box, and I'd >>prefer to support vendors that support those formats.

Re: Mini jack 2.5mm?

2008-04-16 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/4/15, Ortwin Regel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Space reasons. I've been told that most phones use 2,5mm today for that > reason. Not very true nowadays. I think 3,5mm should really be considered for the next product. Most new phones intended to be also music devices all have 3,5mm. That said, ha

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/5/30 Joerg Reisenweber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > B) classic 3.5mm headphones "Walkman(R)" connector, where you have to DIY an > adapter for any standard cellphone headset? (or does anybody know of 3.5mm > headSET standards or adapters?) Definitely 3.5mm. If I'd use a headset, I'd use a Bluetooth

Re: Openmoko Webshop Reopen NOW!!!

2008-07-03 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/7/3 christopher bradski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The freerunner uses 850, something, and 1900. It should work fine for you. > Sorry for short message, I'm at work... You mean freerunner uses something, 1800 and 1900. That something being 850 or 900. ___

Re: The next shipment

2008-07-04 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/7/3 Alexander Frøyseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I see on the moko store that teh 900GSM is sold out. The European / Indian resellers probably got all the 900GSMs for now. Of course they've probably all sold out anyway the first batch, pulster.de states the next shipment would be 25.7. -Timo __

Re: 850 sold out, 900 delayed, connection?

2008-07-11 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/7/11 Alexander Frøyseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > And why are the 900 delayed? I guess because they all already went to European resellers. -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listin

Re: 850 sold out, 900 delayed, connection?

2008-07-11 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/7/11 Alexander Frøyseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > If that so > Why dont they sell from their own site first? Well, to this one I had a guess that since there were European resellers in the first place but openmoko.com itself does not have any places in Europe, it was fastest and cheapest for the

Re: GPS

2008-07-14 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/7/13 BlueStar88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Feeding assist data to compensate bad hardware based reception is no real > solution, since there are some FRs, which seem not to have any problems to > get a fast fix at all. My personal current belief is that those FRs are generally no better than eg.

Re: GPS

2008-07-14 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/7/14 thomasg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > This all are no arguments. > With my TomTom device I can do a full reset so that no GPS data is available > at all (also no time and so on) and still get a fix in < 3 minutes at 100 > km/h. Ok, I don't claim my guess would be truth, I'm just guessing. Is it

Re: Reason for GPS problems found!

2008-07-15 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/7/15 nick loeve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Using my account details and current location i can get agps data > loaded, but it still makes no difference for me getting a fix if the > sd card is still in place. Yes, that doesn't help getting the fixes. However I did find that if I managed to get a

Re: Reason for GPS problems found!

2008-07-16 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/7/16 Jay Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Did you consider the public image that's being created by a >> statement like "Ah >> well, this seems not to work. So the brick is useless for me. Damn >> the day I bought it" > If you can't understand why people would be frustrated to learn that > some

Re: Reason for GPS problems found!

2008-07-17 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/7/17 nick loeve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I just tried the latest mwebster-andy kernel from > http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html#kernels which has the sdcard clock > patches, and now i get even better signals, and fix from cold start > outside in 48secs. > > So the voltage patch certainly helped, an

Re: Reason for GPS problems found!

2008-07-17 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/7/17 Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > || http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html#kernels which has the sdcard clock > > | I tried the kernel too, but it didn't help. Didn't get any fixes in 3 > | minutes when having SD card in (not in use, ie. maps not there). > | Removed the SD card and got a TTFF i

Re: Reason for GPS problems found!

2008-07-18 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/7/17 Timo Jyrinki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> | I tried the kernel too, but it didn't help. Didn't get any fixes in 3 >> | minutes when having SD card in (not in use, ie. maps not there). >> | Removed the SD card and got a TTFF in 34 seconds. > I haven'

Re: Reason for GPS problems found!

2008-07-18 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/7/18 Timo Jyrinki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > It seems it's not as good as without SD card, but definitely a visible > improvement. Sorry for spamming, I just try to describe what I'm experiencing :) Does anyone else have a reliability problem now with the new kernel and GP

Proper mixer settings for music playback, or hardware fixes?

2008-07-18 Thread Timo Jyrinki
Hi, I now got myself those Motorola-compatible 2.5mm->3.5mm adapters to hook up my normal headphones (Koss KSC-35) in FreeRunner. I had heard about some resistor in wrong place resulting in high-pass filter and basically making music listening unbearable. I'm generally hoping I could use Neo also

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