Re: community Digest, Vol 260, Issue 1
Is the new case going to be a retrofit-able for future redesigns? What I mean is: When GTA05 starts will this board be able to fit in a GTA04 brand new case as well as the GTA01/02;s? Thanks, Travis On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 6:00 AM, community-requ...@lists.openmoko.orgwrote: Send community mailing list submissions to community@lists.openmoko.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to community-requ...@lists.openmoko.org You can reach the person managing the list at community-ow...@lists.openmoko.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of community digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: openmoko works as an usb keyboard now (Guilhem Bonnefille) 2. Clarification (Antonio Murdaca) 3. Re: Clarification (Poul Kristensen) 4. Re: Clarification (Evgeniy Ginzburg) 5. Re: Clarification (Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller) 6. Re: [Gta04-owner] Clarification (Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller) -- Forwarded message -- From: Guilhem Bonnefille guilhem.bonnefi...@gmail.com To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 14:24:08 +0100 Subject: Re: openmoko works as an usb keyboard now 2011/11/4 Raphael Wimmer raphael.wim...@ifi.lmu.de: This is great! I have been waiting for such a gadget driver since I got my first Zaurus. Is there already a mouse gadget? I remember a quite similar project (not tested) allowing to use the Neo as an input. But it is non-standard: need to install a software on PC and NEO. http://projets.paulk.fr/neoinput/ (in french) -- Guilhem BONNEFILLE -=- JID: gu...@im.apinc.org MSN: guilhem_bonnefi...@hotmail.com -=- mailto:guilhem.bonnefi...@gmail.com -=- http://nathguil.free.fr/ -- Forwarded message -- From: Antonio Murdaca amurdoc...@gmail.com To: community@lists.openmoko.org Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 00:39:21 +0100 Subject: Clarification Hello all, Just have a doubt! When the GTA04A4 will be ready to everyone, will it be shipped with a case (with the camera module etc etc) included or will it be only the board to be mounted on an existing GTA02?? Thanks for the reply :) Anton -- Forwarded message -- From: Poul Kristensen bcc5...@gmail.com To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 07:43:38 +0100 Subject: Re: Clarification Hello Anton It seems to replace the one in GTA02 :) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA04 Poul 2011/11/8 Antonio Murdaca amurdoc...@gmail.com: Hello all, Just have a doubt! When the GTA04A4 will be ready to everyone, will it be shipped with a case (with the camera module etc etc) included or will it be only the board to be mounted on an existing GTA02?? Thanks for the reply :) Anton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Forwarded message -- From: Evgeniy Ginzburg nad@gmail.com To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 09:11:57 +0200 Subject: Re: Clarification On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 08:43, Poul Kristensen bcc5...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Anton It seems to replace the one in GTA02 :) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA04 Poul 2011/11/8 Antonio Murdaca amurdoc...@gmail.com: Hello all, Just have a doubt! When the GTA04A4 will be ready to everyone, will it be shipped with a case (with the camera module etc etc) included or will it be only the board to be mounted on an existing GTA02?? Thanks for the reply :) Anton Maybe You'll prefer to connect to Golden Delicious, Also they have their own maiilist. Regards, Evgeniy -- So long, and thanks for all the fish. -- Forwarded message -- From: Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 08:35:36 +0100 Subject: Re: Clarification Hi Antonio, Am 08.11.2011 um 08:11 schrieb Evgeniy Ginzburg: On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 08:43, Poul Kristensen bcc5...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Anton It seems to replace the one in GTA02 :) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA04 Poul 2011/11/8 Antonio Murdaca amurdoc...@gmail.com: Hello all, Just have a doubt! When the GTA04A4 will be ready to everyone, will it be shipped with a case (with the camera module etc etc) included or will it be only the board to be mounted on an existing GTA02?? Well, the picture isn't that black and white. We are curently preparing the production of the next batch of GTA04 boards. These will be made available as a motherboard
GTA04_This is my Fantasy
Just so everyone knows: I am not a programmer (just a dreamer), with no grasp on reality in regards to what is feasible or not. I'll leave it to you (the community) to decide. I was thinking it would be cool if my imaginary cell phone (I also dream of one day owning one) had the capabilities to boot linux from any desktop, via USB, provided it's support. This would grant me access to large programs such as CAD software, Inventor/AutoCAD, music/movies/photos, from where ever a desktop computer was available (BIOS Mooch). I would imagine the phones would need to be outfitted with a small solid state hard drive (at least 60 gb), and it would be nice if it had the ability to share media files (music) between QTmoko and Ubuntu (maybe?). Has anyone ever fantasized about this? Is it feasible? or Possible? Thanks, Travis Bachelder This email was sent by Howell Laboratories, Inc. or Shively Labs. It may contain information that is confidential or privileged. If you suspect you were not intended to receive it, please delete it without copying or forwarding it, and notify the sender by reply email or by calling 207-647-3327. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA04_This is my Fantasy
Thanks for you input Lionel, Actually: What I am thinking isn't remote. More like having the operating system installed onto the GTA04 (outfitted with a larger hardrive of course). Plug the phone into a computer (via usb perhaps?) then restart computer to boot from the OS installed onto you slick 60 gb GTA04. This seems possible, the only hurdle I see is the hardware, what would it take to outfit a GTA04 phone with a larger hardrive? Thanks, Travis -- Forwarded message -- From: Lionel Broche lionel.bro...@gmail.com To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Cc: Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 19:07:22 +0100 Subject: Re: GTA04_This is my Fantasy I am not a specialist and I am not sure to understand what you mean by 'boot linux from any desktop', but I have been experimenting remote connections lately so my results may interest you. The idea of remote connection is that you boot your device normally (the client), and access a remote computer (the host) once the operating system is running on the client. Usually you only need a very light operating system so the client machine does not need to be powerful. I have been using a letux 400 (very small device, 2Gb Flash drive, rather slow) as a client to connect to my home computer. Since a letux is (really) not powerful, I dropped the idea of using a full remote desktop but this is likely to be possible on the GTA04 (see Vino, Remmina and others for remote desktop applications). Instead of that, I opened some X windows directly via ssh (use the -X option when you connect with ssh, there is a bit of fidling around with keys and host authoring). This technique allows you to control the GUI of a host from a light remote client. In final I could run some large applications (gimp, blender...) on my letux and to use them just as if I was using my home computer. Only the GUI of the application selected appeared on the screen. I am not sure if that is what you want to do. I can give more details if you need. Lionel On 21 April 2012 00:37, Travis Bachelder tbachel...@shively.com wrote: Just so everyone knows: I am not a programmer (just a dreamer), with no grasp on reality in regards to what is feasible or not. I'll leave it to you (the community) to decide. I was thinking it would be cool if my imaginary cell phone (I also dream of one day owning one) had the capabilities to boot linux from any desktop, via USB, provided it's support. This would grant me access to large programs such as CAD software, Inventor/AutoCAD, music/movies/photos, from where ever a desktop computer was available (BIOS Mooch). I would imagine the phones would need to be outfitted with a small solid state hard drive (at least 60 gb), and it would be nice if it had the ability to share media files (music) between QTmoko and Ubuntu (maybe?). Has anyone ever fantasized about this? Is it feasible? or Possible? Thanks, Travis Bachelder This email was sent by Howell Laboratories, Inc. or Shively Labs. It may contain information that is confidential or privileged. If you suspect you were not intended to receive it, please delete it without copying or forwarding it, and notify the sender by reply email or by calling 207-647-3327. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA04_This is my Fantasy
What if you(I) wanted more than 32 gb? The largest micro SD (NOW) is 64 gbs right? What if you needed larger than that? 250 gb or even 500 gb? Is larger drive space in the GTA04 just a matter of waiting for the micro SD card technology to support larger storage space? If the micro SD is limited on it's storage space, then is the GTA04 board even capable of supporting a built in external hard drive? Or is that make for a serious design change? Thanks, Travis Bachelder -- Forwarded message -- From: Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Cc: Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 15:36:32 +0200 Subject: Re: GTA04_This is my Fantasy Hi Travis, Am 22.04.2012 um 15:09 schrieb Travis Bachelder: Thanks for you input Lionel, Actually: What I am thinking isn't remote. More like having the operating system installed onto the GTA04 (outfitted with a larger hardrive of course). Plug the phone into a computer (via usb perhaps?) then restart computer to boot from the OS installed onto you slick 60 gb GTA04. yes you should be able do that. Just configure the USB gadget driver of the GTA04 so that the GTA04 behaves like an external SD card reader and provides access through the USB cable. Then, you plug in the USB cable to the host machine and boot... This seems possible, the only hurdle I see is the hardware, what would it take to outfit a GTA04 phone with a larger hardrive? There is no need for a built-in harddrive. Just a 32 GByte Micro-SD card. And in some future the OMAP CPUs will even support 32 GByte. Thanks, Travis Nikolaus This email was sent by Howell Laboratories, Inc. or Shively Labs. It may contain information that is confidential or privileged. If you suspect you were not intended to receive it, please delete it without copying or forwarding it, and notify the sender by reply email or by calling 207-647-3327. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: community Digest, Vol 286, Issue 5
I'm new to the concept of Linux/Ubuntu. I'm playing with a hammy-down GTA02. I'm having trouble figuring out how to install Neotools to ubuntu? Does anyone have any tips? Thanks, Travis Bachelder This email was sent by Howell Laboratories, Inc. or Shively Labs. It may contain information that is confidential or privileged. If you suspect you were not intended to receive it, please delete it without copying or forwarding it, and notify the sender by reply email or by calling 207-647-3327. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
NeoTools [Ubuntu]
Oops forgot to change the subject. I'm trying to figure out how to download and install Neotools. When I go the this link http://users.on.net/~antisol/neotool. It goes to what look like the code? I read somewhere that I can copy this to Gedit and use some terminal commands to install it. Am I missing something? Thanks, Travis Bachelder This email was sent by Howell Laboratories, Inc. or Shively Labs. It may contain information that is confidential or privileged. If you suspect you were not intended to receive it, please delete it without copying or forwarding it, and notify the sender by reply email or by calling 207-647-3327. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Ok Tread lightly please. I'm an end User.
So I am trying to format (Flash?) my Freerunner and put Qi (Bootloader) and SHR (OS) onto NAND. I've downloaded the ubifs image from the SHR website. What I am curious about is: Why isn't there a fancy program that does all this for me!? :) JK What I am really curious about is: Is the bootloader included in the ubifs image? I have a feeling it's a separate file. Is there a specific order I should flash? Right now, Android installed on the NAND. Do I need to remove this, or should the flashing process take care of this for me? I would like to replace the Android OS completely. No such thing as too much detail, I appreciate any response. Thanks, Travis This email was sent by Howell Laboratories, Inc. or Shively Labs. It may contain information that is confidential or privileged. If you suspect you were not intended to receive it, please delete it without copying or forwarding it, and notify the sender by reply email or by calling 207-647-3327. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ok Tread lightly please. I'm an end User.
Ok, So I took your advise (Benjamin Deering). Used Neotools, wow: what a powerful tool, thank you very much... But, I think I did something wrong. : / *This is my problem:* My first attempt: I tried flashing the FR (NAND) with QI, Kernel, and the OS (Which was the SHR jffs2 image). Everything was successful, until I tried to turn on the phone when it was done. The phone turns on and random lines of code? accelerates from top to bottom (this was cool at first), until 3 minutes later it stops (with the screen full of code) and doesn't do anything else. Then I tried it another way: Flashing the FR (NAND) with the Kernel and QI, and installing the SHR OS on an ext3 partition of my micro SD card. I used the SHR tar ball for this one. And I got sort of the sam results. Should I not be flashing the kernel to the FR? Is the Kernel already apart of the OS? When I flash the FR NAND, Does this erase everything on NAND and replace it with what I am currently flashing? Has anyone had this problem, Am I the only one..? Thanks, Travis This email was sent by Howell Laboratories, Inc. or Shively Labs. It may contain information that is confidential or privileged. If you suspect you were not intended to receive it, please delete it without copying or forwarding it, and notify the sender by reply email or by calling 207-647-3327. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Tracfone? Sim Card?
Is it impossible to use a Tracfone Simcard in a GTA02 FR? This email was sent by Howell Laboratories, Inc. or Shively Labs. It may contain information that is confidential or privileged. If you suspect you were not intended to receive it, please delete it without copying or forwarding it, and notify the sender by reply email or by calling 207-647-3327. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GTA04-Screen size
In reference to the Ubuntu OS development, Have we thought about making the GTA04 screen larger? What are the limitations with this? This email was sent by Howell Laboratories, Inc. or Shively Labs. It may contain information that is confidential or privileged. If you suspect you were not intended to receive it, please delete it without copying or forwarding it, and notify the sender by reply email or by calling 207-647-3327. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community