Re: receiving SMS messages
Are you able to send OK with the Qtopia image? I can receive but not send. Could be an issue with my provider which is T-Mobile. Haven't tested receiving in suspend vs. awake mode but will try it. - Original Message - From: Tim Coggins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2008 4:17:09 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: receiving SMS messages I can confirm this; it's been happening for the last week or so. Tim On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:36 PM, Dan Weatherill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently received my freerunner, and am enjoying it so far! I have mainly been using the qtopia image from qtopia.net, but have been regularly updating my kernel from buildhost.openmoko.org. On doing some testing, I find the following: I can receive SMS messages perfectly whilst the phone is on, in qtopia. Not always so well in the GTK stack. If the phone is in standby, and I receive a text message, the phone wakes up but does not receive a text message. The person sending the message does, however, receive a delivery report. This occurs in both images as well. If I then subsequently receive a message after the others, whilst the phone is out of standby, I receive all the messages together. Hence, no messages are lost in the ether, but it seems that messages received whilst the phone is on standby are temporarily mislaid. If there is any information I can provide to help you sort this please just let me know. This is one of very few things preventing me using the neo as a day to day phone with qtopia. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Testing and Unstable feeds for the FSO distribution are now available
I installed FSO testing build. Will opkg upgrade keep it current? I have the following files in /etc/opkg/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/opkg# ls -al drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jan 1 1970 . drwxr-xr-x 37 root root 0 Aug 22 07:10 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 62 Jan 1 1970 all-feed.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 115 Jan 1 1970 arch.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 68 Jan 1 1970 armv4t-feed.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 74 Jan 1 1970 fic-gta02-feed.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 70 Jan 1 1970 neo1973-feed.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 72 Jan 1 1970 om-gta02-feed.conf Should I edit one or more of these files before trying to upgrade? When I run opkg update I get: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/opkg# opkg update Downloading http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//all/Packages.gz Downloading http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//all/Packages.sig Signature check failed Downloading http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//armv4t/Packages.gz Downloading http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//armv4t/Packages.sig Signature check failed Downloading http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//fic-gta02/Packages.gz Downloading http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//fic-gta02/Packages.sig Signature check failed Downloading http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//neo1973/Packages.gz Downloading http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//neo1973/Packages.sig Signature check failed Downloading http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//om-gta02/Packages.gz Downloading http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//om-gta02/Packages.sig Signature check failed Collected errors: * Failed to download http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//all/Packages.gz, error 404 * Failed to download http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//all/Packages.sig, error 404 * Failed to download http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//armv4t/Packages.gz, error 404 * Failed to download http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//armv4t/Packages.sig, error 404 * Failed to download http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//fic-gta02/Packages.gz, error 404 * Failed to download http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//fic-gta02/Packages.sig, error 404 * Failed to download http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//neo1973/Packages.gz, error 404 * Failed to download http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//neo1973/Packages.sig, error 404 * Failed to download http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//om-gta02/Packages.gz, error 404 * Failed to download http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//om-gta02/Packages.sig, error 404 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/opkg# - Original Message - From: Kevin Fenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:14:11 AM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: Testing and Unstable feeds for the FSO distribution are now available Kevin Fenzi wrote: I installed the unstable image, and tried to use either the unstable or testing feeds here, and I get: a bunch of: Assuming locally installed package is up to date. then a bunch of: * Packages were found, but none compatible with the architectures configured Can't seem to install or update anything. ;( Please post the contents of your /etc/opkg/*.conf files. I know that both sets of feeds work, cause people have reported success with both in the IRC channel (and I personally use the fso-testing feed exclusively). Sigh. As you might have suspected, it was the result of PEBKAC. ;) I was missing the arch.conf file. Adding that in gets it working nicely. ;) -- Rod kevin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Testing and Unstable feeds for the FSO distribution are now available
That is exactly where I downloaded the build. my-distribution.org was in all the /etc/opkg/*.conf files by default. Is there a wiki page somewhere that explains how to configure my sources? - Original Message - From: Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 1:47:41 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: Testing and Unstable feeds for the FSO distribution are now available On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Vince M. Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I installed FSO testing build. Will opkg upgrade keep it current? I have the following files in /etc/opkg/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/opkg# ls -al drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jan 1 1970 . drwxr-xr-x 37 root root 0 Aug 22 07:10 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 62 Jan 1 1970 all-feed.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 115 Jan 1 1970 arch.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 68 Jan 1 1970 armv4t-feed.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 74 Jan 1 1970 fic-gta02-feed.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 70 Jan 1 1970 neo1973-feed.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 72 Jan 1 1970 om-gta02-feed.conf Should I edit one or more of these files before trying to upgrade? When I run opkg update I get: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/opkg# opkg update Downloading http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//all/Packages.gz Downloading http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//all/Packages.sig Signature check failed Downloading http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//armv4t/Packages.gz Downloading http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//armv4t/Packages.sig Signature check failed Downloading http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//fic-gta02/Packages.gz Downloading http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//fic-gta02/Packages.sig Signature check failed Downloading http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//neo1973/Packages.gz Downloading http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//neo1973/Packages.sig Signature check failed Downloading http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//om-gta02/Packages.gz Downloading http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//om-gta02/Packages.sig Signature check failed Collected errors: * Failed to download http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//all/Packages.gz, error 404 * Failed to download http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//all/Packages.sig, error 404 * Failed to download http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//armv4t/Packages.gz, error 404 * Failed to download http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//armv4t/Packages.sig, error 404 * Failed to download http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//fic-gta02/Packages.gz, error 404 * Failed to download http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//fic-gta02/Packages.sig, error 404 * Failed to download http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//neo1973/Packages.gz, error 404 * Failed to downloade-feed//neo1973/Packages.sig, error 404 * Failed to download http://my-distribution.org/rem http://my-distribution.org/remotote-feed//om-gta02/Packages.gz, error 404 * Failed to download http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//om-gta02/Packages.sig, error 404 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/opkg# - Original Message - From: Kevin Fenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:14:11 AM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: Testing and Unstable feeds for the FSO distribution are now available Kevin Fenzi wrote: I installed the unstable image, and tried to use either the unstable or testing feeds here, and I get: a bunch of: Assuming locally installed package is up to date. then a bunch of: * Packages were found, but none compatible with the architectures configured Can't seem to install or update anything. ;( Please post the contents of your /etc/opkg/*.conf files. I know that both sets of feeds work, cause people have reported success with both in the IRC channel (and I personally use the fso-testing feed exclusively). Sigh. As you might have suspected, it was the result of PEBKAC. ;) I was missing the arch.conf file. Adding that in gets it working nicely. ;) -- Rod kevin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community http://my-distribution.org does not contain any feeds for the FSO feeds you need to edit them, take a look at http://shr.bearstech.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Testing and Unstable feeds for the FSO distribution are now available
I replaced all the URLs in my opkg/*.conf files with URLs that point to http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ipk/... I was able to map URLs in every file except fic-gta02-feed.conf. There is no fic-gta02 directory under http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ipk/ so I just removed that conf file. I can now do a successful opkg update. The only errors I get are related to signatures because there are no Packages.sig files on the server. When I run opkg upgrade it thinks for a minute then returns to the command prompt without upgrading any packages. Is it safe to assume that this is because nothing has changed since I installed my test build or did I do something wrong by removing the fic-gta02-feed.conf? - Original Message - From: Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 2:03:37 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: Testing and Unstable feeds for the FSO distribution are now available On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Vince M. Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is exactly where I downloaded the build. my-distribution.org was in all the /etc/opkg/*.conf files by default. Is there a wiki page somewhere that explains how to configure my sources? - Original Message - From: Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 1:47:41 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: Testing and Unstable feeds for the FSO distribution are now available On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Vince M. Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I installed FSO testing build. Will opkg upgrade keep it current? I have the following files in /etc/opkg/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/opkg# ls -al drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jan 1 1970 . drwxr-xr-x 37 root root 0 Aug 22 07:10 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 62 Jan 1 1970 all-feed.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 115 Jan 1 1970 arch.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 68 Jan 1 1970 armv4t-feed.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 74 Jan 1 1970 fic-gta02-feed.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 70 Jan 1 1970 neo1973-feed.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 72 Jan 1 1970 om-gta02-feed.conf Should I edit one or more of these files before trying to upgrade? When I run opkg update I get: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/opkg# opkg update Downloading http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//all/Packages.gz Downloading http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//all/Packages.sig Signature check failed Downloading http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//armv4t/Packages.gz Downloading http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//armv4t/Packages.sig Signature check failed Downloading http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//fic-gta02/Packages.gz Downloading http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//fic-gta02/Packages.sig Signature check failed Downloading http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//neo1973/Packages.gz Downloading http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//neo1973/Packages.sig Signature check failed Downloading http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//om-gta02/Packages.gz Downloading http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//om-gta02/Packages.sig Signature check failed Collected errors: * Failed to download http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//all/Packages.gz, error 404 * Failed to download http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//all/Packages.sig, error 404 * Failed to download http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//armv4t/Packages.gz, error 404 * Failed to download http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//armv4t/Packages.sig, error 404 * Failed to download http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//fic-gta02/Packages.gz, error 404 * Failed to download http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//fic-gta02/Packages.sig, error 404 * Failed to download http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//neo1973/Packages.gz, error 404 * Failed to downloade-feed//neo1973/Packages.sig, error 404 * Failed to download http://my-distribution.org/rem http://my-distribution.org/remotote-feed//om-gta02/Packages.gz, error 404 * Failed to download http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//om-gta02/Packages.sig, error 404 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/opkg# - Original Message - From: Kevin Fenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:14:11 AM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: Testing and Unstable feeds for the FSO distribution are now available Kevin Fenzi wrote: I installed the unstable image, and tried to use either the unstable or testing feeds here, and I get: a bunch of: Assuming locally installed package is up to date. then a bunch of: * Packages were found, but none compatible with the architectures configured Can't seem to install or update anything. ;( Please post the contents of your /etc/opkg/*.conf files. I know that both sets
Re: Fourth Request: What is the warranty for the FreeRunner?
I would expect OM to warranty hardware defects. A DIY fix is acceptable as long as it doesn't require special tools or create potential to do more damage. I would much rather have OM ship me a replacement part than have to send the phone back. - Original Message - From: Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 4:34:14 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: Fourth Request: What is the warranty for the FreeRunner? On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 12:01 AM, Jim Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Leonti wrote: In my opinion having only DOA right now is a good thing. Right now Freerunner is a phone for developers and they should accept the fact that it can have some imperfections. I want this project to grow. Do you imagine what would happen if everyone had warranty and discovered gps fix issue? Openmoko would broke on repairs (more on shipping costs). But when it will be in a mature stage I thing we will need a warranty of some kind. I have to disagree, this phone was sold as a GSM phone, if for instance the GSM buzzing issue needs a repair that cannot be done by the end user then I think OM is responsible for fixing that issue, otherwise (at least in the US) they can be held accountable for false advertising, as with the buzzing the phone is unusable as a GSM phone which was its primary purpose. I am sure they will take care of this issue though, and do the right thing. When the first batch of gta02 phones were sold, the Developer only and not usable as a primary phone issues were not well spelled out (if at all), and not spelled out at all on the OM store front. They have done a better job now of informing potential buyers, but there were an awful lot of phones sold initially without that disclaimer. I for one would have waited for GTA03 or later if it had been spelled out, just as I skipped GTA01 because it was well spelled out it was an alpha prototype for developers only. IMHO GTA02 was initially sold as Ready for end users or at least Usable as a primary phone, which turned out to be incorrect. I think the endless discussions on this list are due to that mis perception by many of the people who bought the first batches of GTA02's. I only partially regret my early purchase though. I can afford to have a $400 play toy, it has kept me busy for hours on end trying to get it to work the way I want, however that will change if I can't fix the GSM buzz issue, the way I have been able to fix many of the other issues. -- Jim Morris, http://blog.wolfman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I partially agree with Jim Morris. I surely don't regret buying my FR and I'm finding it a great toy. But he's right: it was sold to me as a phone and I expect GSM usability from it in the future. It was not advertised as a developer only phone, but as a phone ready for mass production. At this moment people refuse to call me on the FR because of the buzz. I'm very happy that the hardware engineers (like Joerg) are working on this problem, because it really should be top-priority. I'm also still hoping they find a sollution. If not I will consider myself lucky that I bought it from a European distributor and will use my warranty... But I'm a patient man; Go Hardware Engineers! :-) y ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtopia 4.3.2 release
Does anyone know when 4.4 will be released? There was a thread a couple of months ago where a Trolltech person just said soon but would not be more specific. - Original Message - From: Jim Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 4:59:06 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: qtopia 4.3.2 release Lorn Potter wrote: Jim Morris wrote: Lorn Potter wrote: Hi all, Trolltech released Qtopia 4.3.2 this week, and the GPL sources hit the ftp server recently. ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qtopia/source/qtopia-opensource-src-4.3.2.tar.gz I did a build from the Qtopia snapshot last night, does this mean I will already have gotten the updates? You should be good to go! Great thanks, I also noticed that ssl and tls were now enabled on email. Is there a reason that handwriting recognition input is not in the snapshot sources? -- Jim Morris, http://blog.wolfman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtopia update
Lorn - this is great, thanks. Any idea when a 4.4 version will be released? - Original Message - From: Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Monday, September 1, 2008 6:30:14 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: qtopia update I have updated qtopia at qtopia.net Fixes include sms messages not retrieved after resume. Qtopia getting confused between two calls. Make default call volume down and mic up (only in flash update). Added echo fix. Enjoy! -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, Trolltech, a Nokia company ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT] First rumors about first Google phone
Has anyone tried to install Android on a Freerunner? - Original Message - From: David Samblas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 8:58:18 AM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: [OT] First rumors about first Google phone Yes, take for sure than HTC will not release as an open phone as Openmoko, when I was talking about openess I was talking of the sofware stack, to precisely to the posiblitiy neo can run that software on it. El mié, 24-09-2008 a las 15:53 +0200, Cédric Berger escribió: On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 15:46, Steven Kurylo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even if the code is open, will the hardware be? The hardware could easily check if the software has been changed and then cut power. What is interesting is that the code is open so that you can port it a more open hardware (Neo !) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtopia 4.4 - Qt Extended | Now Released!
Does anyone know if an image will be available? I don't see it in the usual downloads location. - Original Message - From: \Marco Trevisan (Treviño)\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 11:50:12 AM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: Qtopia 4.4 - Qt Extended | Now Released! Cédric Berger wrote: On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 13:50, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is has been renamed to Qt Extended right now, isn't it? However there are some very interesting videos on the net [1] renamed indeed... I had not seen this before : http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2008/09/28/qt-extended/ Finally there are official news: Qt Extended 4.4 released [1]! Look at the many cool videos and see how the Freerunner works [2], but... Where are sources and binaries? [1] http://trolltech.com/products/device-creation/qt-extended/qt-extended-4.4-release [2] http://dist.trolltech.com/video/qtextended.m4v -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
dead battery
My battery is completely drained so I cannot boot to charge it. The following thread offered three possible solutions: http://n2.nabble.com/Can%27t-boot-Freerunner-without-battery---Was:-Re:-unable-to-start-up-freerunner-after-batterie-was-full-down-td526783.html Does anyone know where I can get an external charger that will work with the Freerunner battery? Vince Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] (303) 493-6723 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: dead battery
Thanks Joel. I'll go digging thru my box of old phones. I know there are a couple of Nokias in there. - Original Message - From: Joel Newkirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 1:25:36 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: dead battery A desktop charger for a Nokia BL-5c or BL-6c battery will do the job, at least the two non-Nokia ones I've tried. I've done it a few times. I've never let it sit on the charger until full, so I don't know if the charger can recognize full charge on the FreeRunner battery or not, but left on the charger for 15-20 minutes it will boot the FreeRunner. The most readily-accessible source is likely to be a friend with a Nokia phone using one of those batteries - several models over the past six or eight years. (mine is a 6600) If you know anyone with a nokia phone (now or the past several years) it's worth asking them what battery it uses, if they have a desktop charger, and if you can borrow it. (or keep it - if they're not using the phone ask for the charger and battery ;) j On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:04:07 -0600 (MDT), Vince M. Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My battery is completely drained so I cannot boot to charge it. The following thread offered three possible solutions: http://n2.nabble.com/Can%27t-boot-Freerunner-without-battery---Was:-Re:-unable-to-start-up-freerunner-after-batterie-was-full-down-td526783.html Does anyone know where I can get an external charger that will work with the Freerunner battery? Vince Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] (303) 493-6723 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: dead battery
One more question. Maybe it will be obvious once I get my hands on a charger, but how do you actually connect the battery? Will it fit in an old Nokia phone? Or do you somehow connect the battery directly to the charger? - Original Message - From: Joel Newkirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 1:25:36 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: dead battery A desktop charger for a Nokia BL-5c or BL-6c battery will do the job, at least the two non-Nokia ones I've tried. I've done it a few times. I've never let it sit on the charger until full, so I don't know if the charger can recognize full charge on the FreeRunner battery or not, but left on the charger for 15-20 minutes it will boot the FreeRunner. The most readily-accessible source is likely to be a friend with a Nokia phone using one of those batteries - several models over the past six or eight years. (mine is a 6600) If you know anyone with a nokia phone (now or the past several years) it's worth asking them what battery it uses, if they have a desktop charger, and if you can borrow it. (or keep it - if they're not using the phone ask for the charger and battery ;) j On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:04:07 -0600 (MDT), Vince M. Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My battery is completely drained so I cannot boot to charge it. The following thread offered three possible solutions: http://n2.nabble.com/Can%27t-boot-Freerunner-without-battery---Was:-Re:-unable-to-start-up-freerunner-after-batterie-was-full-down-td526783.html Does anyone know where I can get an external charger that will work with the Freerunner battery? Vince Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] (303) 493-6723 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: dead battery
I've tried that, as well as the wall charger. The battery is totally dead and my fr will not boot, regardless of how long I leave it plugged in. - Original Message - From: Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 1:52:02 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: dead battery Tomas Riveros Schober wrote: well whenever im hit with a dead battery i just plug the freerunner to the computer's usb port and let it sit for a few minutes then turn it on to NOR...or NAND whichever one works first Well, that is a very simple solution. :-) Thank you! Paul -- If you reject the food, ignore the customs, fear the religion and avoid the people, you might better stay home. -James Michener http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: dead battery
Not that long on the wall charger. I'll leave it overnight and see what happens. I have left in on the USB charger for a few hours with no luck. - Original Message - From: Sarton O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 5:27:57 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: dead battery On Wednesday 01 October 2008 05:52:38 Vince M. Clark wrote: I've tried that, as well as the wall charger. The battery is totally dead and my fr will not boot, regardless of how long I leave it plugged in. 6 - 8 hours on the wall charger is not unusual for my dead battery to start to function. How long have you left it? Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: dead battery
Thanks Shawn. I have tried NOR boot (holding aux button while pressing power button, then releasing aux button.) I cannot even get that far. I'm going to leave it plugged into the wall charger overnight and see what happens. In the meantime i ordered an after market Nokia battery charger. They are cheap but it looks like it may take a week or so to get it. - Original Message - From: Shawn \prjktdtnt\ Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 5:31:17 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: dead battery Vince M. Clark wrote: My battery is completely drained so I cannot boot to charge it. The following thread offered three possible solutions: http://n2.nabble.com/Can%27t-boot-Freerunner-without-battery---Was:-Re:-unable-to-start-up-freerunner-after-batterie-was-full-down-td526783.html Does anyone know where I can get an external charger that will work with the Freerunner battery? Vince Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] (303) 493-6723 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Vince, When my battery died I plugged my phone into the OpenMoko supplied charger, started it using NOR boot, leaving it at the boot menu until it timed out (repeat that twice) then I was about to select boot from the NOR menu and after a few extra seconds the phone booted. -Shawn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: dead battery
Yes. I have my fr plugged into the OpenMoko wall charger. Then I try NOR boot but nothing happens. I have tried NOR boot plugged in and not plugged in. - Original Message - From: Shawn \prjktdtnt\ Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 5:37:22 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: dead battery Vince M. Clark wrote: Thanks Shawn. I have tried NOR boot (holding aux button while pressing power button, then releasing aux button.) I cannot even get that far. I'm going to leave it plugged into the wall charger overnight and see what happens. In the meantime i ordered an after market Nokia battery charger. They are cheap but it looks like it may take a week or so to get it. - Original Message - From: Shawn \prjktdtnt\ Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 5:31:17 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: dead battery Vince M. Clark wrote: My battery is completely drained so I cannot boot to charge it. The following thread offered three possible solutions: http://n2.nabble.com/Can%27t-boot-Freerunner-without-battery---Was:-Re:-unable-to-start-up-freerunner-after-batterie-was-full-down-td526783.html Does anyone know where I can get an external charger that will work with the Freerunner battery? Vince Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] (303) 493-6723 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Vince, When my battery died I plugged my phone into the OpenMoko supplied charger, started it using NOR boot, leaving it at the boot menu until it timed out (repeat that twice) then I was about to select boot from the NOR menu and after a few extra seconds the phone booted. -Shawn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community When trying to get into NOR do you already have it plugged into your charger? That is how I was able to finally get mine to boot, you only need the actual OpenMoko charger until it starts up then you can use whatever USB charger you prefer. Just plug into wall-socket and phone, start NOR twice, viola. -Shawn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: dead battery
As long as it eventually comes back on I'm fine. I didn't realize that the wall charger would eventually get enough charge in the battery to boot it. My impression from the other thread was that once the battery was dead you were screwed without an external charger or extra battery. - Original Message - From: Sarton O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 5:52:32 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: dead battery On Wednesday 01 October 2008 09:45:08 Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson wrote: Odd. Sadly that is the only way I was able to get mine going again, would be nice to see a patch that corrects the issue somehow so that people don't have to use workarounds in the future. -Shawn I don't think it is as complicated as that. I think it's merely the amount of charge the FR is able to negotiate when powered off. Depending on the level of 'dead' determines how long you need to trickle charge it before anything useful occurs. I'd say battery maintenance and usage patterns may contribute also. From what I have seen on this list, I don't think this situation will change in a hurry, if ever. Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: dead battery
Got it. Thanks. - Original Message - From: Shawn \prjktdtnt\ Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 5:58:57 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: dead battery Vince M. Clark wrote: As long as it eventually comes back on I'm fine. I didn't realize that the wall charger would eventually get enough charge in the battery to boot it. My impression from the other thread was that once the battery was dead you were screwed without an external charger or extra battery. - Original Message - From: Sarton O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 5:52:32 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: dead battery On Wednesday 01 October 2008 09:45:08 Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson wrote: Odd. Sadly that is the only way I was able to get mine going again, would be nice to see a patch that corrects the issue somehow so that people don't have to use workarounds in the future. -Shawn I don't think it is as complicated as that. I think it's merely the amount of charge the FR is able to negotiate when powered off. Depending on the level of 'dead' determines how long you need to trickle charge it before anything useful occurs. I'd say battery maintenance and usage patterns may contribute also. From what I have seen on this list, I don't think this situation will change in a hurry, if ever. Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Nope, don't need the external, but if it is flat dead to where NOR won't start you'll be a few hours (charges at 50mA IIRC) before you can even try again. -Shawn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: dead battery
Well, I'm out of options. I left my fr plugged into the trickle charger overnight. Still won't boot. Then I read this last post, about removing the battery long enough for a reset, plugging into USB for 5-10 min, unplug/pause/plug back in. Still won't boot. The only thing I haven't done that was recommended in this last post is to use the latest u-boot. Unfortunately I cannot do this until I get it to boot. Guess I will wait for my external charger to arrive. Should I be concerned that this isn't just a battery issue and maybe my fr is dead? - Original Message - From: William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:01:52 AM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: dead battery These are my understandings from lots of reading and previous posts between myself and Andy Green and others on the subject - should all be in the archives. With 2007.2 I was hit one out of every 3 overnight suspends ending in a flat battery. At least with 2008.9 its rarer (but does happen :( With the later u-boots, usb default is 100ma as soon as its plugged in. This unfortunately is less than a running Fr needs. Normally as soon as the operating system is up enough, it will negotiate up to 500ma with the host, or in the case of the wall charger, read the sense resistor and see that 1A is available. When the OS is suspended, the PMU manages the charge until the battery is charged whereupon it switches off - and stays off. If the OS is running, it will cycle back on when the battery level falls to 10-20% (reports vary) as the OS can reset and renegotiate the charge level. If the battery is very low (i.e., the internal fail-safe disconnects it), remove it from the phone for 30 seconds or so. This allows the fail-safe to reset (this is what I think happens based on my observations) so the 100ma can get to the battery, and also reset the phone hardware - in particular the GSM modem which is directly connected to the battery and is thought to be root cause by Andy Green - possibly goes into a wierd state as power drops as well, preventing restart until reset. The power rail of course drops due to the inrush current much more during startup with a low battery than normal, causing one chip (USB I think) to detect a dangerously low voltage and issue a shutdown. So you cant get the phone to boot until the battery has had a few minutes of charge. In my case, USB to my laptop or a desktop machine does it. Remove/pause/replace battery plug into USB for 5-10 minutes remove/pause/replug USB cable and normal boot will happen within a few seconds. The wall charger should work as well, but on my one try it didnt - possibly because the u-boot wasnt new enough at the time. Recommendation - use a late (latest!) u-boot. BillK On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 22:13 -0700, Michael Shiloh wrote: Vince, When my battery died I plugged my phone into the OpenMoko supplied charger, started it using NOR boot, leaving it at the boot menu until it timed out (repeat that twice) then I was about to select boot from the NOR menu and after a few extra seconds the phone booted. -Shawn I'm confused. I thought that we didn't turn on the charger until we booted into Linux. Am I wrong? Do we charge in u-boot, even at a low rate? Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: dead battery
I've tried multiple times with no success. - Original Message - From: Tomas Riveros Schober [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Wednesday, October 1, 2008 8:26:57 AM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: dead battery try again and it will eventually workthe usb cable connected to the computer is usually the way to go...and when it boots, quickly swap it to the ac charger...at least that's what i just did (my neo died during the night) Vince M. Clark escribió: Well, I'm out of options. I left my fr plugged into the trickle charger overnight. Still won't boot. Then I read this last post, about removing the battery long enough for a reset, plugging into USB for 5-10 min, unplug/pause/plug back in. Still won't boot. The only thing I haven't done that was recommended in this last post is to use the latest u-boot. Unfortunately I cannot do this until I get it to boot. Guess I will wait for my external charger to arrive. Should I be concerned that this isn't just a battery issue and maybe my fr is dead? - Original Message - From: William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:01:52 AM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: dead battery These are my understandings from lots of reading and previous posts between myself and Andy Green and others on the subject - should all be in the archives. With 2007.2 I was hit one out of every 3 overnight suspends ending in a flat battery. At least with 2008.9 its rarer (but does happen :( With the later u-boots, usb default is 100ma as soon as its plugged in. This unfortunately is less than a running Fr needs. Normally as soon as the operating system is up enough, it will negotiate up to 500ma with the host, or in the case of the wall charger, read the sense resistor and see that 1A is available. When the OS is suspended, the PMU manages the charge until the battery is charged whereupon it switches off - and stays off. If the OS is running, it will cycle back on when the battery level falls to 10-20% (reports vary) as the OS can reset and renegotiate the charge level. If the battery is very low (i.e., the internal fail-safe disconnects it), remove it from the phone for 30 seconds or so. This allows the fail-safe to reset (this is what I think happens based on my observations) so the 100ma can get to the battery, and also reset the phone hardware - in particular the GSM modem which is directly connected to the battery and is thought to be root cause by Andy Green - possibly goes into a wierd state as power drops as well, preventing restart until reset. The power rail of course drops due to the inrush current much more during startup with a low battery than normal, causing one chip (USB I think) to detect a dangerously low voltage and issue a shutdown. So you cant get the phone to boot until the battery has had a few minutes of charge. In my case, USB to my laptop or a desktop machine does it. Remove/pause/replace battery plug into USB for 5-10 minutes remove/pause/replug USB cable and normal boot will happen within a few seconds. The wall charger should work as well, but on my one try it didnt - possibly because the u-boot wasnt new enough at the time. Recommendation - use a late (latest!) u-boot. BillK On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 22:13 -0700, Michael Shiloh wrote: Vince, When my battery died I plugged my phone into the OpenMoko supplied charger, started it using NOR boot, leaving it at the boot menu until it timed out (repeat that twice) then I was about to select boot from the NOR menu and after a few extra seconds the phone booted. -Shawn I'm confused. I thought that we didn't turn on the charger until we booted into Linux. Am I wrong? Do we charge in u-boot, even at a low rate? Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org
Re: Stable OM distro
I'm assuming you are referring to Qtopia 4.3 right? It was close but not quite there. I have very high hopes for 4.4. - Original Message - From: t m [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Wednesday, October 1, 2008 2:56:00 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: Stable OM distro You can try FDOM. It's somewhat bloated, but works nicely for me. Nice, I will try this as well. Even Qtopia didn't work out for me. Other users have the same experience? It usually takes a while before problems show, and I'm really hoping I will be able to at least phone and sms with a normal battery life (and resume that works) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: dead battery
OK now you guys are just messing with me ;-) Nothing is working. I've taken everything out, tried all different combinations based on suggestions from the community. I'm sure at this point I have a totally dead battery and old u-boot. I'll get it jump started and update u-boot. - Original Message - From: Xavier Cremaschi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 2:14:07 AM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: dead battery Sarton O'Brien a écrit : The 'leave it overnight' scenario is the best one I encounter for a dead battery ;) ... I think you'll be right. Sarton A good one is : - Hold down the aux key. - Put battery in. - Put usb in. - Hold down the power key. - Release aux key. - Wait for menu. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: dead battery
I ran down to Batteries Plus and picked up a Rayovac replacement that fits. It doesn't come charged but has enough charge to at least jump start my fr. I put in the new battery, plugged in the usb cable, and was able to boot. Then I took out the Rayovac battery and put the original battery back in. Device stayed running and I am hoping the battery is charging. The power button is staying illuminated and is red. Any idea what that means? - Original Message - From: Brock [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 7:27:59 AM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: dead battery On 2008.10.01.13.05, Vince M. Clark wrote: | I've tried multiple times with no success. How about removing all SD and SIM cards, does that help? --Brock ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
which u-boot?
Is this u-boot safe for any gta02? What is the v5_and_up for? http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin Vince Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] (303) 493-6723 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: dead battery
No it is definitely the power button (the round one below the usb plug) staying lit red. I'm running the FSO image. - Original Message - From: Angus Ainslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 12:28:19 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: dead battery On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Vince M. Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I ran down to Batteries Plus and picked up a Rayovac replacement that fits. It doesn't come charged but has enough charge to at least jump start my fr. I put in the new battery, plugged in the usb cable, and was able to boot. Then I took out the Rayovac battery and put the original battery back in. Device stayed running and I am hoping the battery is charging. The power button is staying illuminated and is red. Any idea what that means? I think you mean the AUX button is staying lit. That means its charging. The power button is the round one. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4
I switched a setting to make the menus do the wheel thing (didn't realize what I was doing when I selected it) and now I cannot select anything. Touchscreen doesn't respond to selection on the wheel. So now I can't get to settings, apps, etc. Guess I'll re-flash. While I was able to get to apps I don't recall seeing the webkit browser or a GPS app. Am I missing something? I agree, not quite stable yet. - Original Message - From: Franky Van Liedekerke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 2:03:01 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4 On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 00:08:55 +0530 Kishore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 02 Oct 2008 11:53:46 pm Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 19:43:23 +0200 Petr Vanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No problem here. I reflashed previous QT snapshot 4.3 so i presume if you use kernel from 4.3 you are ready to go. unless...I was also looking at the services screen or what it's called in QT4.4 so i might have activated USB networking by an accident and it's kernel independent? Check it out anyways. hmmm ... I'm guessing that image isn't the official released one, too many bugs (old and new): - lots of kernel-warnings spit out during booting (using uImage-gta02-mwester-stable-d6f9fd270943fb22.bin from I believe the previous 4.3.x snapshot version). Or maybe this is a uimage issue? - timezone management isn't working (the files just aren't there in /usr/share/timezone). Also the time itself can't be changed. - echo problem is back - alarm keeps vibrating the phone, after pressing snooze - each received call arrives twice, causing the second call to show up as missed The image is called 4.4.1, but my phone reports it as 4.4.2 ... I thought it was going to be 4.4.3? Yup! I have all of those issues you mention. Anyway, USB networking is now working after i flashed mwester kernel. I am able to ssh but i cannot connect to the internet. ping google.com gives me ping: bad address 'google.com'. I checked /etc/resolv.conf and it is empty. Fix the resolv issue by putting the line nameserver A.B.C.D in your /etc/resolv.conf (A.B.C.D being the IP of your own nameserver). Always needed for usb connections. But still ... too many issues found in 2 minutes of testing for this to be stable. Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FDOM and WiFi
Using Mofi I can see my access point and when I tap on connect to AP it seems to connect (the circle changes from grey to orange) but I don't see an IP address. If I open a terminal and run ifconfig all I have is eth0, lo, and usb0. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM and WiFi
eth0 definitely has no address. I'll check iwconfig. - Original Message - From: Alex Osborne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 10:55:46 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: FDOM and WiFi Vince M. Clark wrote: If I open a terminal and run ifconfig all I have is eth0, lo, and usb0. The wifi is eth0. Is there an address associated with it there? Also check the output of iwconfig. If it has associated the AP then it should say Access Point: and then give the MAC address of the AP. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM and WiFi
Here is the output. I can see the access point but it is not connected even though in Mofi the circle is orange next to the access point. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# iwconfig eth0 eth0 AR6000 802.11g ESSID: Mode:Managed Bit Rate:1 Mb/s Tx-Power=0 dBm Sensitivity=0/3 Retry:on Encryption key:off Power Management:off Link Quality:0/94 Signal level:-95 dBm Noise level:-96 dBm Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# iwlist eth0 scan eth0 Scan completed : Cell 01 - Address: 00:0F:66:D2:BB:41 ESSID:linksys Mode:Master Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6) Quality=15/94 Signal level=-80 dBm Noise level=-95 dBm Encryption key:off Extra:bcn_int=100 - Original Message - From: Vince M. Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 11:00:18 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: FDOM and WiFi eth0 definitely has no address. I'll check iwconfig. - Original Message - From: Alex Osborne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 10:55:46 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: FDOM and WiFi Vince M. Clark wrote: If I open a terminal and run ifconfig all I have is eth0, lo, and usb0. The wifi is eth0. Is there an address associated with it there? Also check the output of iwconfig. If it has associated the AP then it should say Access Point: and then give the MAC address of the AP. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM and WiFi
Network is open and I can see it. I tried manually configuring and it sets the essid but doesn't get an IP address. Is there something else I need to do to enable dhcp? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# iwconfig eth0 eth0 AR6000 802.11g ESSID:linksys Mode:Managed Frequency:2.437 GHz Access Point: 00:0F:66:D2:BB:41 Bit Rate=1 Mb/s Tx-Power=15 dBm Sensitivity=0/3 Retry:on Encryption key:off Power Management:off Link Quality:179/94 Signal level:-172 dBm Noise level:-96 dBm Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:8 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ifconfig eth0 eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:12:CF:8E:E7:AA inet6 addr: fe80::212:cfff:fe8e:e7aa/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:109829 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:14838 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:44459303 (42.3 MiB) TX bytes:146338 (142.9 KiB) - Original Message - From: Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 1:44:57 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: FDOM and WiFi At this point you can try manually configuring the wireless card: iwconfig eth0 essid linksys Does your network have an encryption key? How many letters? I think there is a bug that one letter keys don't work. If your network has an encryption key, I think another bug requires that you set the key before the ID thus: iwconfig eth0 key 123456789 essid linksys Let me know if this works and we'll update the wiki accordingly Michael Vince M. Clark wrote: Here is the output. I can see the access point but it is not connected even though in Mofi the circle is orange next to the access point. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# iwconfig eth0 eth0 AR6000 802.11g ESSID: Mode:Managed Bit Rate:1 Mb/s Tx-Power=0 dBm Sensitivity=0/3 Retry:on Encryption key:off Power Management:off Link Quality:0/94 Signal level:-95 dBm Noise level:-96 dBm Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# iwlist eth0 scan eth0 Scan completed : Cell 01 - Address: 00:0F:66:D2:BB:41 ESSID:linksys Mode:Master Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6) Quality=15/94 Signal level=-80 dBm Noise level=-95 dBm Encryption key:off Extra:bcn_int=100 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FreeRunner for Sale in Denver - $350 or best offer
Will hand deliver if you're in Denver, or ship otherwise. Cash or credit cards accepted. This FreeRunner is in perfect condition. I have had it since August and have only used it for tinkering. It has a Zagg Invisible Shield on the screen plus I will include two extra ones still in their boxes. I will also include a Rayovac rechargeable battery worth $35. It is an aftermarket replacement for the Nokia BL series batteries, which fit in the fr battery compartment. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner for Sale in Denver - $350 or best offer
Authorize.net - Original Message - From: Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2008 10:36:19 AM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: FreeRunner for Sale in Denver - $350 or best offer On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:14:46 +0200, Vince M. Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will hand deliver if you're in Denver, or ship otherwise. Cash or credit cards accepted. And how exactly are you going to accept credit cards? :-) -- Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ICQ: 115226275] http://feldgendler.livejournal.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
My Freerunner is for sale on eBay
To anyone interested: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemssPageName=STRK:MESELX:ITitem=180298012645 I don't want to completely lose my shirt so the reserve is set at $249. Still a pretty incredible price for a fr that is basically brand new. If anyone is interested but has concerns about bidding feel free to call me at: 303-493-6723. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
