Openmoko (the company) doesn't have any responsibility to be open to the
community.
to be open to the community is at the core of their business model --
and, what's more, it accounts for a huge part of their customer base.
Look at what happens every time a hardware-related (ie. gta03) post
hi,
i just received the mail below -- at a first glance it looks like simple
spam, but on a second one it seems to be from om (and no visible snag).
still strikes me as _very_ odd ...
had anyone else such experiences?
om: is this legit? and if so, what's the issue with it?
received mail:
Dear
Regardless, when it happens, I imagine it would greatly
help this issue.
i doubt it.
i use fso on debian for several months now and since a long while back
there's no remarkable delay anymore.
maybe some shr specific stuff causes your delays?
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Have you tried tweaking the alsa profiles and set Bass Filter to
either 100Hz @ 8kHz (== 600Hz @ 48kHz) or 200Hz @ 8kHz (== 1200Hz @
48kHz) and Bass Boost to 15? I find the quality just fine for eg.
any chance somebody translates that audiophile gibberish into alsa state
file gibberish?
Anyway, some setup will be necessary, right? A usb headset headset will
be a completely new sound device. Can the phone detect it when it gets
plugged in, and then do all the configuration? So the sound player will
just work Or will we have to go into the settings and change between
host and
think I can 'borrow' one from Debian;
well, why don't you borrow xorg-xserver-input-tslib as well? or at least
libgtkstylus.so?
2008.9 uses xorg, right?
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2008.9 uses xorg, right?
No:
yes, it does.
xorg as opposed to framebuffer (like, qtopia).
i am not sure, though, how good tslib works with (your current) xglamo --
and libgtkstylus.so does gtk-apps only, iirc.
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i built gridpad for debian, it runs and i can draw -- but whatever i do,
no chars will ever appear in the terminal nor in leafpad.
i use xfce -- is this thing usable with the enlightment eco system only?
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It keeps telling No lease, failing. What should i do?
you could start with providing more informations and asking on the
appropriate list.
- what distribution
- what kernel
- does your wpa_supplicant.conf work on other systems
the right list would be supp...@..., not commun...@...
nad,
export GTK_MODULES=libgtkstylus.so into ~/.xsession.
I did that, didn't work.
sounds rather as if your .xsession never really was executed. anything
else in there? care to post the content here?
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Unfortunately, I get RCU detected CPU 0 stall (t=4294908494/600
jiffies) and a traceback, and then itfails to setup usb0 so I can't log
in that way. But it does boot.
see
http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2363869
as for the usb0 -- what does
ifup usb0
say?
Under either
it's a great toolkit for the desktop.
a devastating compliment ...
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It does not seem persistent over reboot, even with the new GUI iface of
Johny Tenfinger (thanks for that btw !)
the dbus call ahs to be issued at least once after the start of frameworkd
-- so, unless frameworkd has an option to do that by itself, you or an app
has to do it -- but that
You seem to want the hide-my-caller-id on a per-number basis, but so
far, on
seems the most sensible way.
when i call a hotline i don't want my number to end up in the database of
some marketing dep of the company -- otoh when i call friends i want my
number (resp my name, because i am in
But if the GTA03 would have a hardware keyboard and some joystick or
trackball or something like this to use as a mouse, then the
capacitive screen would not be a problem.
then it would have been called G1.
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I've now sdcv working in UTF-8 with my Spanish dictionary.
So you mean the pre-compiled binary can be run in a different distro as
long
as it meets the dependencies? That's good to know, thanks.
the armel packages of debian are working with all other distros, too.
since the package
well, it is available in debian. so, with little effort you should be able
to use that for 2008.x (qt4, gtk and console frontend) -- far more
interesting, though, is the question what dicts are available.
debian offers english-czech only.
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I've found a Debian pkg stardict-gnome_3.0.1-4+b1_armel.deb in
http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/pool/main/s/stardict/
.
since stardict is part of debian proper, every mirror should have it, for
all supported archs including armel (which is the name of the fr's arch).
these are the packages a
Maybe this girl is saying something that makes it funny? I don't speak
German :(
even if you did -- it won't get neither funny nor sensible.
the interview lothar linked to is boring and brainless -- just like the
video ...
by combination of the weapon of a beautiful woman [ie sexiness -- my
Thanks for the dbus lines - saved me some
research to find them!
does the mdbus calls work for you with a recent frameworkd (ie ms5)?
every attempt to do something like this dies on my debian/fso with an auth
error -- be i root or not.
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I installed kernel 2.6.28-20090105.git69b2aa26 (.28 kernel from Debian
repo)
how did you get it?
apt-get dist-upgrade does not list another kernel (but 2.6.24).
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yes, taht what i did now, and indeed, there it was. but i somehow expected
apt-get dist-upgrade to offer the new kernel ... any known reasons why the
upgrade is not offered automatically?
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i tried that kernel a week ago and the wlan was not working so i just
removed it and went back to 24...
well, wlan is a nice to have, not crucial -- but just for fun: i enabled
wifi in opp and did
ifconfig eth0 up (which probably should be done automagically)
and eth0 was there,
iwlist eth
check this out...
http://forkus.com/discuss/about/navit+debian
http://forkus.com/discuss/about/navit+debian
as far as i can see, none of the entries covers _armel_ ... and anyway, im
building them myself since i found a repo with debianized sources.
to whom do you prefer to sell?
angus or debian/fso, ie luca?
price?
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tslib works with Xglamo only.
with a regular installation you are using fb -- use libgtkstylus. i
don't
have the exact name handy right now, but the archives should turn up
several hits.
The wiki says it's the other way round. Anyway I tried both and they
didn't
work...
my bad. i
What are your thoughts on it? or other possible solutions.
how big is the volume of really device specific issues?
i don't think it justifies a list of its own.
prepending subjects with [gta01] seems far more sensible -- and since the
gta01 users are so few and have a great interest in
So, installed xserver-xorg-input-tslib 0.0.5-1+fso1 as linked on the
wiki [1],
added the option in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and fired a
$ /etc/init.d/nodm restart
But still I get no right click action.
tslib works with Xglamo only.
with a regular installation you are using fb -- use
On Saturday 07 February 2009 21:25:05 Steffen Winkler wrote:
german is a bad(?) language...english is much better (easier to learn,
better gramma and so on)
Damn, there goes the coffee all over my keyboard again :-D
Even as a native, english english speaker I can see english isn't the
I just wanted to mention that after following Lothar Behrens and Steven
Kings instructions for Jabra BT3030 I've got A2DP working for my Nokia
BH-604 headset as well.
could you put that together and make it into a wiki page? resp update the
relevent wiki page?
Does anyone have a working gta01 they'd like to sell ?
luca capello (l...@pca.it)is looking for one, too.
so, if someone is willing to sell, contact him or me off list.
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enable debugging in zhone and set a file (all on the top). after the next
failure the log maybe has some useful information.
my /usr/bin/zhone starts like below -- i don't know what the current zhone
looks like, but it still should work the same, log file is set to your
home directory and
Red (orange) means it's charging, blue means it's fully charged.
and since eg gsm draws power directly from the battery, after a while
charging is triggered again -- thus the led switches to orange again.
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Ok, i have the logging. I dont see anything strange,
i, otoh, do:
2009-02-07 19:38:36,517 INFO network status changed:
dbus.Dictionary({dbus.String(u'strength'): dbus.Int32(89,
variant_level=1), dbus.String(u'cid'): dbus.String(u'3539',
variant_level=1), dbus.String(u'act'):
well, it's short for akkumulator -- replace kk with cc and, according to
my dictionary, it is part of english too -- with the same meaning.
Ahh, no, I guess we don't have any handy four-letter word for
rechargeable batteries. Heheh
that's the beauty of german :-) we don't even have such
that's the beauty of german :-) we don't even have such nice ...
abbreviations ... like WWW as opposed to the much longer World Wide Web
*scnr*
But we just imported that abbreviation from English. Like many other
words...
my reply was aimed at the digital pioneer, which (maybe too rash)
No, I'm a native english speaker. Born and raised in America. :)
isn't that an oxymoron?
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any plan for a smartphone with camera and 3G?
any plans to check the wiki?
That would be cool!
_that_ would be cool.
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Do you mean this one?
http://openinventionnetwork.com/
heck, no. if i read that right they too work by taking out patents.
looked again and found it (it's the eff itself)
http://www.eff.org/patent/wanted/
i am all for invalidating such patents, not patent something yourself
instead -- be
Given that there are some applications (e.g. navit) which are updated
regularly for opkg, but not for deb, it occurred to me that as the
file formats are so similar, it shouldn't be so hard to write a script
to convert from one to the other.
i did it once.
rename the opkg to deb, run
alien -r
done on the FR. Therefore, I'll edit the page with opinions are
divided regarding reliability and no objective comparisons yet for
other criteria.
It'd be much easier to just punt on the whole issue and say same rules
apply as for any other Linux system.
party pooper.
is this: if People send in phones the first thing one wants to do is
test whether the phone in question actually has a buzz and how bad the
buzz is. We need to develop a robust test for that. Then the SOP would
with the included headset and the gsmheadset.state i get a very strong
buzz
(http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=WONR=2009012344A2KC=A2FT=Ddate=20090122DB=EPODOClocale=en_US)
i didn't read it fully, but how does that differ from a simple hub or the
common docking station well known to notebook users? and it what respect
exactly is it not
please, always answer to the list.
On Feb 2, 2009 12:34pm, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote:
what does your ~/.xsession look like?
I copied it from
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#Matchbox_with_fbpanel
#!/bin/sh
export GTK_MODULES=libgtkstylus.so
zhone
xsetroot -solid
There is a certain amount of YMMV with file system choices depending on
your usage scenarios, but personally I would really like to use reiserfs
and dump ext2/3 and all the problems they cause on the FR (lost
data/corrupted filesystems, slow performance, ...) that I have.
i, on the other
On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 14:08:57 +0100, jeffrey.ratcli...@gmail.com wrote:
On Feb 2, 2009 2:00pm, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote:
uh. what does the while loop mean? anyone knows?
what happens, when you comment the while loop and simply put
fbpanel
there?
It allows you to reconfigure
I can start fbpanel from a terminal, but it doesn't start automatically.
what does your ~/.xsession look like?
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systems. Since not many people are recommending reiserfs nowadays due to
lack of maintenance, regardless of being considered better than ext2/3,
ext3 remains as the choice.
it's not only lack of maintenance and reiserfs is not considered to be
better (by whom?)!
the best you could say is,
i have a .xsession file:
#!/bin/sh
export GTK_MODULES=libgtkstylus.so
xfce4-session
well, i got
/usr/bin/startxfce4
instead of xfce4-session, not sure what's the difference is, though.
so nodm starts xfce4.
meaning you get the full desktop? menu, taskbar, ...?
if i start zhone from there
it seems that xfwm4 doesn't start automatically
yes, i suspected something like that.
someone knows where xfwm should be called?
normally, it should be started by startxfce4 as well.
at a glance, there are several files startxfce checks for informations --
so either you could start xfwm
1st) Battery Power
...
So, since i'm not able to plug the phone to a power source at university,
would i be able to run it the whole day, without getting out of battery
power after 10 hours?
not with the scenario you describe -- but otoh: which phone does? your
power consumption seems
hi thank you, but i dont start zhone from .xsession. i start it by hand
later.
can you please describe in more detail how your system is set up and how
you do start zhone?
i can't really imagine what happens on your side.
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Ya, atm i am using a sony ericsson k800i, so just an ordinary phone. it's
handling my needs very well, when it comes down to battery power. i only
got
to charge the battery every 3 or 4 days. to make things clear: i don't
listen to music all day, only on the go, so maximum 2 hours a day.
Moko developers not use freerunner in daily use, they use blackberry
well, i certainly doubt that.
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The one thing I find absent in every design is a plain old phone keypad.
Maybe a slider design to pull it out from underneath or such like.
probably not what om likes -- but consider buying an unlocked g1
(android). with the android sources available virtually every distribution
available
did you check if sharing internet connection still is enabled?
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MacOS_X#Enabling_the_Mac_as_an_Internet_Router
any recent changes/installation of a firewall?
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This dictionary would have hundreds of millions of rows even if you take
only reasonable user inputs.
why would that be? colloquial language (nad that's what is to be
considered) contains only several thousends words, still a lot but far
away from millions.
But what to do if the users
i still think, all these ideas to make the thief repent ... uh ... return
the phone or track it, are rather pipe dreams -- but anyway ...
be it for this purpose or another:
when finally the migration to qi is done and over, the flash partition
containing the kernel read by u-boot should be
Is this something to worry about, and can I find out what's eating
current (I've got it tied to the wall charger, so the battery won't go
flat).
that's probably the cause -- i don't know what distribution you are using
(hint, hint), but at least debian/fso seems to restart charging when
(hint, hint), but at least debian/fso seems to restart charging when
dropping below a certain level.
That would be [2008.12], then :-)
attaboy! and next time we try to put in into the subject line, shall we?
;-)
I seem to be unable to ssh to my FR right now, so I can't check the
battery
My laptop's wifi does get warm too, if under heavy load.
Yes, but it's not loaded! Basically there aren't any networks around
that I can wifi into, so wifi is left on useless at the moment.
what's the policy, then?
does wlan crank up txpower and scans constantly?
Obfuscating email addresses on the web archive is, IMO, no substitute
for sensible policies (greylisting, RBL, SFF?) at your incoming mail
server.
not as such. but i think it is a necessary part.
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I don't know why you guys assume that there will be another user. A
scenario
that I think is more probable:
The thief steals the phone, immediately turns it off by taking out the
battery. He then takes it to some 'dealer'. The dealer says, 'what the
is this, I will never sell it',
especially in Russia itself, i.e. outside Moscow.
you made my day!
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Really? The problem was noise from the SDcard electronics disturbing the
gps receiver. The software fix was to turn the sdcard clock off while
the card isn't actively used. But that don't help at all if the card
_is_ in use most of the time - for example if you're running your linux
the best bet would probably be, if tangogps would support the binary
maps,
like navit does.
Just a question...
Why, if Navit does the map drawing from OSM data, would you like to
have tangoGps do that as well?
i don't understand that question -- what has navit to do with it?
try to
You mentioned navit in your posting, so I assume you're already using
it to draw OSM maps on the FreeRunner, that's why I asked.
ah, ok.
well, yes, i have both installed, but imo tangogps is faster and more
usable for general orientation, while navit focuses on guiding. at least
that's my
Not having the journal imlies a redouced number of write to sd and a
reduced probability to get the data lost.
this discusion has in some extend token place a while ago (community or
support archives should have it ready, look for wear leveling) and it was
widely agreed upon, that with
Why is it related to OpenMoko Community? *sigh*
please! think twice be adding to that spam! it's simply forged -- and
since the archives are avaliable a bot easily compiles a list of both
lists and addresses to send spam elsewhere.
the best course of action, is to delete an forget it, the
was there) and running alian told me that the pre and post install
scripts were skipped.
and it should have likewise tld you use --scripts (if not, then it is a
minor bug imho, since alien has done that for years and does still here).
However, this directory contains only a
Also my thanks to the author for such a nice app! GPS was my third
reason to buy OM. Now it's only missing a navigation guide with voice.
navit.
ps: please cut the mail to the necessary minimum when replying.
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ps: please cut the mail to the necessary minimum when replying.
Sure, didn't realise it was an issue. Is it for bandwith/storage,
readibility or something else?
well, it is a tad annoying -- to have mail that stretches over several
pages with basically nothing but a single line appended.
ext2/3 is not really suited to storing such a large number of small
files.
afaik ext3 can be configured to use small files.
(I don't understand why ext2/3 is used at all these days, as it has
been obsolete for years.
that's nonsense.
Except for one bug 8 years ago[1], ReiserFS has
I was wondering if anyone has a tar'd compilation of all the USA maps?
don't have the url handy, but osm has a list of links providing
daily/weekly/monthly updated tar balls of diffrent areas and the world.
found it, see here:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Planet.osm#Extracts
could someone please do something against this rassistic and antisemitic
peice of crap?
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slot. If it isn't there, then your phone have this problem.
not necessarily. in fact, if you really have this problem you didn't
update your kernel a very long time.
the gps/sd card fix is in all kernels available for a very long time now,
the hw fix is not necessary.
Those are links to snapshots of the OSM database in XML, not the
rendered tiles that Martin is looking for.
aargh, you're right -- i fell into that trap already a while ago!
i read some howtos to setup rendering (mapnik or something else), and it
is an overkill!
the best bet would probably
IPv6 is not the problem, om2008.12 supports it. it is minimo that
refuses to show ipv6 only sites.
where did you get it from? maybe it was built w/o ip6 support?
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Is there a package of svgalib available for the freerunner ?
well, debian only offers svgalib for i386 and amd64.
so, it is probaly limited to x86 arch.
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wget http://www.ginguppin.de/files/minimo.tar.bz2
that would be mine :-)
it's built a long time ago and i don't really recall what options i used.
since i don't use opkg anymore, but debian, there's no chance it will ever
be updated -- i removed the oe stuff from my pc and use either debian
- to accept calls, you have to use use the key sequence as follows: power
button- choose keyboard-hit the phone icon
Just an inital impression - and I appreciate it's a port so these are
workarounds for a lack of a keyboard!
what's the aux button used for?
since koolu (or whoever) ported
- dillo does not support http (so no gmail)
huh?
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Same problem. And, actually, I don't understand why changing my .e
folder would change something since it is a hidden folder.
that's where the configuration lives ...
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I'll try and get some packages up soon, but I've never packaged anything
for Debian before, so that may take some time. I had to install quite a
to create the debian infrastructure in plain sources i use
dh_make
it asks you a few questions and the creates the debian/ directory. for
version
i find it very frustrating that i and others have lots of software
ideas, that can be coded/re-packaged, but we're hamstrung by what
should be a fundamental piece of software that openmoko does
everything in their power to support
switch to debian and the whole fascinating world of debian
I am currently developing a sync app for the Neo.
the fr itself has nothing to sync, hasn't it?
so, what pim or files are you syncing?
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i seem to recall something like:
- remove battery and any connection (charger, usb)
- let the fr alone for a few hours (to lose all power still cached
somewhere and thus resetting fuses)
- put the battery back in and plug in wall charger
- let the fr alone for a few hours while charging
- while
libconfig6 is at least in unstable:
ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/libc/libconfig/libconfig6_1.3.1-1_armel.deb
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is the emulator still supported?
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passkey-agent, ie pairing, should be necessary only the first time using a
bt device (except you removed the cache, by flashing or deleting, of
course).
can somebody, please, put these steps in the wiki?
if two people got a jawbone working with these steps, it is obviously far
better than
i do not recall any specific error messages you posted.
but that might be because of the high traffic of this list.
so, please, specify what exactly does not work:
- what exactly are you trying to achieve? connecting your host via wlan to
inet and accessing inet from your fr through usb to host?
I've switched from debian+LXDE to SHR for several weeks.
ShR is not perfect though, it is not released yet.
i am perfectly happy with debian (in fact. it was a major point when
purchaisng the fr that debian will run on it, not some home made linux
distribution).
what i was looking for was a
i do not use matchbox, but xfce4! the matchbox wm is far too limited, imo.
debian-gta02:~# dpkg -s lxlauncher
Package: lxlauncher
Status: install ok installed
Priority: extra
Section: x11
Installed-Size: 188
Maintainer: Andrew Lee and...@linux.org.tw
Architecture: armel
Version: 0.2-2
Depends:
qwo is on the way to debian...
that's nice to hear.
could you have an eye on the deps?
just for fun i looked at cellwriter and dasher, and they pull in
dependencies totally occupying 20.1MB and 58.4MB respectiveley -- mostly
because of heavy dependencies of that fat gnome stuff:
ok, i just played around with lxde and i am going to purge it immediately.
my main points:
- almost every component needs a font setting on its own. the default is
10pt and that's so big you can't read anything, not to speak of buttons
being out of reach
- while lxde is able to recognice the
- please, be more specific about the errors.
- what kind of sim are you using? see the wiki for a listing of known to
work/not work
- did you apply the gsm firmware update?
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Why this difference? Dpi should be configured somewhere?
well, i start X with --dpi 285
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Did anyone else ignore the original survey as unsolicited spam? I'd
i pondered the idea a while, but after some research i decided to take
part.
have probably completed it if they'd sent a mail to the mailing list
asking people to take part, but sending it to individual users seemed
to be
and the feeds from . . .
http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-unstable/feeds/
As far as I can determine both initscripts and openmoko-initscripts are
coming from the same feed.
a short survey shows to me that the packages are identical, contentwise.
i assume someone renamed initscripts
This looks very good. Can anyone recommend anything similar available in
Germany?
almost every cheap mobile shop or 99ct shop should have those available.
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