accelerated x-driver!
since the specs for the glamo are subject to an nda, nobody else can ...
We have an accelerated X driver, do you mean add more features?
afair 3d and video (ie playing videos) still need work.
am i wrong? did i miss something?
additionally, xglamo in debian does not
I would like to ask the community:
What do you want us to work on?
accelerated x-driver!
since the specs for the glamo are subject to an nda, nobody else can ...
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not sure, if i understand you correctly -- but you might have a look into
/usr/bin/zhone-session.
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You have to enable it in the openmoko-panel-plugin file. Just set
ah, thanks a lot.
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My .deb doesnt appear to miss these icons, except brightness.png.
I cant find the brightness.png file in the src tgz.
now that you mention it -- wifi is not shown.
i get the brightness dialog randomly and though it was a second
functionality of the battery icon ...
Exists something i could do?
you probably need to fiddle with the sd clock. search the archives and the
wiki, there should be a few postings/entries how to do that either in
u-boot-menu or in sysfs.
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Running OM2008.8 I cant start an xterm session, how could I do it?
2008.8 != debian/fso
I just installed xfce4, it is runnig well, but slowly...
How could I start OM2008.8 with zhone and the openmoko-panel-plugin at
start up?
not at all afaik.
2008.8 is one distribution for freerunner,
a few questions:
- to move an installation from sd card to flash: is it sensible/sufficient
to delete everything from flash and copy from sd card?
creating a jffs image and flash it to the fr seems rather long-winded.
- to those havin debian in flash: what do you have in flash what on sd? my
But why you refer to Debian/FSO? Is the arm repo mainteined by the FSO
team?
no.
but fso has it's own life independent of debian -- otoh debian on fr makes
only sense when using fso.
OM does not use FSO?
not yet.
it is supposed to be the next step (internally) -- but afaik the 200X.Y
BTW What I wanna mean is if it is possible to have the openmoko-panel-
plugin running on the zhone-session, the default one for Debian on
freerunner.
if you have _only_ zhone running (ie no xfce or what desktop/window
manager ever), the answer is no.
if you use xfce and start zhone as
Another thing is I bought a 2G uSD and I want to move my debian system to
that card. If I manually partition it (8MB fat and rest ext2) and just
copy
contents of 512M, would it work? Or maybe i can copy an image using dd
and
then somehow resize the partition. Anyone tried migrating from
A consistency check with fdisk yielded that the size of the partition and
the size of the filesystem do not match, and advised me to run e2fsck.
e2fsck said there are no problems. I ran fdisk and e2fsck on FR-debian.
gparted on my py sees the partition as 2GB. darn it.
so? your partition
i remember to have read a while ago, where to download navit for
debian/armel -- but i can't find the message.
could someone please post a link -- even for an ipk if nothing else exists?
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(1) does it support wimax?
afaik no
(2) i heard we can install a deb files is that true?
you can install debian/armel and thus the world of debian is open to you
(3) can i try android in it and install openmoko back?
not atm and it's quite unclear if ever -- android is for now available
What about tinymail http://tinymail.org?
is there a gui?
the page states, it is a framework but the demos show some kind of gui --
but i can't find further informations.
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But from where can I get LAN tools for [EMAIL PROTECTED] In which package I
will find it?
if you use debian on your pc, use apt-file. else see
http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages#search_contents
the bottommost form.
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device to /dev/ttySAC1 and it works. I don't know for what reason i
should install fso-gpsd.
so that you don't need gpsd.
fso handles gps by itself -- thus having gpsd trying to handle gps too,
might end up in confusion.
fso-gpsd is a compatibility layer between fso and applications requiring
would you please post in the commonly used language of this list?
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Someone managed to compile one with touchscreen working (Arne Anka?
Timo? not sure, sorry), and Gismo started to clean up some packaging,
i did. and the deb is available on
http://www.ginguppin.de/node/23
be aware that right click does not work -- there seems to be the necessary
code
Suggestions?
start by clicking from menu or file manager?
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any tip on how to follow up?
have a look at
lsmod
is
g_ether
listed?
if not, do
modprobe
g_ether
if that helps: when did you update your kernel last?
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one should probably ask on the fso-list what's the differen'ce between om
and fso kernels is -- the subject seems not to be appealing to the fso
guys reading this list ...
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Is this the right list or is there a more apropriate list for this kind
of questions for fso?
dunno, but asked anyway ...
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Any recent OM kernel package should have this already. I don't know
what the deal is with Debian and which config they use. The ones that
OM use to generate the packages are defconfig-gta01 and defconfig-gta02,
these are set to cook modules for g_ether and the other gadgets.
debian should
And now i got the kernel from today running and it seems to work.
does suspending by holding pwr for about 4 secs still work?
i tried a kernel+module-tarball about two weeks ago and at least
suspending that way stopped to work -- so i switched back to the
installation kernel+modules.
firstly:
- this is a support-list issue
- prefix your subject with at least the distribution you're using (2007.2,
2008.8, fso, debian) and maybe the hardware (gta01, gta02)
to make it easier to help you
When I run tangogps it tells me that I have no gps. It is weird because I
have the
I don't suppose you could tell me what file to look at? I've not seen
look below /etc for pulseaudio. there's a config file with sample in it.
the community archives of juni should contain a few messages describing
how to do it.
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this I knew, but Russell mentions changing the ringtone *format*, not
just the tone. I've not seen anything about this.
sorry, must have missed that.
re format i remember somebody posting a patch for python, that enabled
something. and i think, it was for 2007.2 (since i skip most other
cc1: warning: -f[no-]force-mem is nop and option will be removed in 4.2
that's only a warning, should be save to ignore.
In file included from sys/linux/joy.c:6:
/usr/include/linux/joystick.h:131: error: expected
specifier-qualifier-list
before '__s64'
google has a few hits for that:
how to disable joystick ? oO
./configure --help
?
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SDL: can't set video mode: No video mode large enough for 160x144
can't really help you there.
have a look at google and check maybe with fbset what idea sdl might have
of your screen.
http://doc.freevo.org/FAQ#head-a6b386d46c6dd5694353689a4017ccfbcaf19ee9
here's one related to zaurus
If you have any suggestions how to further improve the packaging i'll be
happy to hear. how can we integrate this package to the debian-fso
seems, the .desktop file is gone?
at least the plugin isn't any longer in the menu and dpkg -L does not show
one.
The prefix I can imagine are:
[debian]
[2007.2]
[2008.8]
[qtopia]
Someone as other prefix to add on this list?
[fso]
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can someone tell me howto setup bt @ FR so i could transfer files /
browse FR via bt like my se-w810i?
(use FR as bt-fileserver)
look for everything with obex in it's name ...
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try to put your echo strings in quotes:
echo -n ifdown usb0...
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it seems to me the battery-plugin doesn't handle apm right?
the plugin does -- fso does not.
the plugin relies on apmd which is not used in fso and, as known, produces
issues when running.
since it is far bigger than the corresponding battery symbol, you're
better off with the
Now on 2008.08 I cannot found the same kind of option... does someone
know how I can configure this using a terminal ?
this is usually achieved by prefixing the number you dial with one of
these *foo# codes -- ask your provider or search the net for a list of
those.
On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:06:16 +0200, Mikael Berthe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-09-02 10:57 +0200]:
I do want opkg to update the kernel, but I don't want it to touch
NAND,
because my system is on the SD card.
i would expect opkg to update the kernel
I do want opkg to update the kernel, but I don't want it to touch NAND,
because my system is on the SD card.
i would expect opkg to update the kernel in /boot -- if you boot from sd
it should be the kernel /boot on your sd, if you boot from nand it should
be nand.
how did you design your
what have you installed?
2007.2
2008.8
qtopia
fso
?
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I guess you mean A2DP audio streaming. Otherwise you could use the
Headset or
the Handsfree profile. They are probably a bit easier to set up but have
poor
audio quality since they are developed for voice transmissions and not
for
Music like A2DP.
with the buzzing still unsolved
I've opened openmoko-feedreader2 and I've noticed that there isn't any
way to insert a new feed among the default feeds.
When clicking on the new feed icon in the 3th tab, nothing happens,
and the command line messages do not help to understand where's the
problem.
what about copying and
Do you others who run Debian on the Freerunner have sound?
yes.
What have you done to get it working?
nothing, afair, worked out of the box.
any error messages when playing or just silence?
did you check the mixer's settings?
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to an Ubuntu box, extract them from the deb file
dpkg -x filname.deb extract to dir
create a tarball,
that's rather ... long-winded, three far easier ways spring to mind:
1) alien -t midori...deb
produces a tar.gz from the deb
2) ar x midori...deb
splits the deb in it's three parts, use the
before crashing debian on my 8G-sd with experiments with apm i was
able to exchange files with my bt-enabled se-w810i
right-click on bluetooth-applet - browse device - choose w810i and
connect. first time i did the passkey-dialog appeared and everything
was fine .. sending/receiving data
sry i missed that - i am using xfce - by now i installed everything
with 'obex' in the name
what bt-applet did you have?
the only one i found so far is that little panel applet someone from the
list created and that only allows you to en-/disable gsm, wifi, gps, bt
and shows battery status.
could it be you had
bluez-gnome
installed?
since you have an 8gb card and xfce uses gtk the dependencies should not
worry you -- the only other graphical passkey agent i know in debian is in
kdebluetooth whcih you probaly would remember if you installed it.
Filter on the client side and leave the rest of us alone :)
that works only, if _everybody_ pust a distinctive feature in the subject.
there are a lot of messages with no marker whatsoever that the deal with
(mostly) 2008.8, since the ops are obviously ignorant of the fact that the
lists
But there are errors related to icons. You think I have to solve them to
start the function associated with the button? However icons are visible
only if you suspect that missing icons mean functions not accessible --
but for missing icons probably generic ones are used, i think.
I regulary upgrade my debian system every 1-2 days. In the last 2 days i
got an update for zhone automatically installed which doesn't work
anymore.
upgraded yesterday and have no problems so far.
When i use apt-cache show zhone i see version 0-git20080809-4 but no
that the same version i
But isn't there a way to use suspend/resume with the power button
without zhone?
probably not -- that's because of the development staus of fso and the
nature of zhone.
zhone is an app to test all the features of fso -- if you look into
zhone.log you'll see that even the pwr presshold is
I deactivated GSM within the panel app and it seems that zhone doesn't
really like this. I can also see messages in the log now.
After reboot (don't know why zhone doesn't work just after reactivation
of gsm) zhone works normal.
did you restart zhone and/or fso-frameworkd?
I have no SIM
I am having a lot of freezes and the only solution so far has been to
unplug the battery. Is there any other way I should be aware of?
you could try (if you didn't already) to hold pwr until the device reboots.
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There was some discussion about the mailing lists a couple of months
ago - one Openmoko employee said they were considering suggestions
then another (apparently) unilaterally went on ahead anyway and
redefined the purpose of the device-owners list, renaming it to
support at the same time (an
with a segfault when attempting to read the dependency tree [1].
What may I do about that?
could be, your apt is stuck with that broken package (somewhere internally
is probably an unfinished job! flag set).
try to download the package manually (wget or so)
apt-cache show linux-libc-dev
shows
Anyone has a suggestion for a list of good keywords, something we can
start from (non-authoritative)? perhaps even a simple semantics?
well, on the hardware side we got
gta01 aka neo1973
gta02 aka freerunner (v5 as released version with v6 upcoming somehow)
softwareside
2007.2
2008.8
qtopia
please stop spamming the list with baseless rumours
pardon?
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IIRC FSO uses a different gps daemon (ogpsd?) that makes GPS data
available
there#s fso-gpsd, a compatibility layer that allow legacy gpsd-interfaced
applications to run with fso
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I already use the newest kernel with debian.
2008-08-31 21:29:43,869 ERROR Exception in handler for D-Bus signal:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/dbus/connection.py, line 214,
in maybe_handle_message
self._handler(*args, **kwargs)
File
in xfce-main-menu i need three clicks to open a submenu. someone an
idea on this?
i noticed it too -- sometimes even more.
i somehow think the menu is populated every time it's expanded --
subsequent submenus expand on first click.
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the more interesting part (to me) would be, how it runs on debian.
i remember having installed opie on top of debian a few years ago to check
with a rather old notebook (486sx), and it required a few tweaks in
configuration.
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but when I run './install all' I still get:
Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information:
Warning, had trouble writing out superblocks.done
doesn't sound good.
if I try './install mount' I get:
[errors]
well, w/o superblocks mounting doesn't work
Also, if I just end up
Like I said, no dramas ... I was just hoping I'd get a lanyard, it's
in
the pictures :(
could you post a link to that pics?
i absotively cannot remember any mention of a lanyard ... (except in
lanyard hole)
Don't tell me we forgot to ship you the lanyard hole! That would be a
severe
But why is ext3 not recommended for sd-card when compared to ext2?
i understood ist because of the additional wear caused by journalling.
I played with debian on my sd card for over a week without any problems
so far concerning the sd-card. I hope i must not backup my rootfs and
reformat it
Trolltech released Qtopia 4.3.2 this week, and the GPL sources hit the
slightly ot: is there a chance there will be an eclipse plugin anytime
soon?
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Before putting to sleep
what exactly are you doing when putting to sleep?
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is there any difference ?
afaik only insofar as frameworkd sedates the modem before calling.
re the draining: there _has_ to be a change in the latest updates.
i tried to resume my fr a few minutes ago -- and it was stone dead!
after putting on usb and a second, successful attempt (into 2007.2
opkg updates the userland binaries and kernel modules, I'd say the most
likely
reason you're having problems is due to not updating your kernel.
opkg updates the kernel as well.
the next time you do opkg upgrade, check
a) the list of packages -- when kernel module packages are mentioned
I'm also on Debian. Isn't it best we use a normal screen save and lock
solution?. Something like xscreensaver, but I'm still not sure it can
be used without a keyboard.
as long as aux reliably produces a keyboard, that's no hindrance, isn't it?
But having zhone lock itself is just dumb;),
I don't think so :
did you compare the files?
i gather the naming derives from the gps location data, thus the file
names for the same areas should be the same regardless of the format being
different.
similar names are not sufficient, as said above -- compare the files
(identify -verbose
Read all about it on
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2008-August/000415.html
(for people that don't read the hardware list)
most interesting, thank you very much.
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have found some problems that are knows from all, like :
- the GPS need to have a internet connexion by USB or Wifi to get the Map
how is that a problem? since the maps are available over the net, you need
to get them somehow. if you don't like having the fr download 'em itself,
download
Sorry for crashing this discussion, but could you clarify why there
would be a difference between a png saved by tangogps and locations?
i wouldn't know -- i don't use locations.
but why shouldn't there be _no_ difference?
If they both use the exact same areas, the exact same name, and they
us, we should not be dismissive but helpful. Just some advice.
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
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pdf
Yes i would like to read EBook on my FR but i dont find a repository
with a software to read that
boy, that's hard to infer from the question.
there should be epdfview somewhere, if not i built it a while ago
http://ginguppin.de/node/21
but i won't guarantee it still installs.
btw:
And then i wanted to ask if there is a working way to rotate the xfce
screen like with 2007.2?
the fbdev driver used does not support randr. the xglamo does, but it does
not play well w/ tslib out of the box, someone posted a workaround
recently making xglamo and tslib play together.
i
And GPS, is GPS fix in that kernel too ? :)
since it is an om-kernel and markedly younger than the gps fix, i strongly
assume so.
i had no time to check that little zhone gps thingy yet, so i don't know
for sure -- but if the rain stops for a while this afternoon, i will check
on my way
issues with the build was a PITA. So at the moment, you have to manually
download the image from http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/
and put it in /boot.
am i mistaken or isn't that image w/o modules?
thus, simply copying the uImage.bin will pretty soon send us into a
situation
At the moment i got iceweasel running on my debian freerunner. It is
also a firefox port which works great. I could use any original addon
from mozilla. :)
i recently found out about midori -- a small webkit based browser,
available in the debian repositiories
This of course won't do the GPS much good, but i think the real fix
might be to give the SD card more clock cycles before and after commands
to give it time to finish executing commands.
wouldn't it be sensible to turn on the sd clock before suspend and do
somthing? after resume the clock
See my earlier mail on Youtube offering mp4 versions of their videos.
more interesting would be what parameters are used to encode them, fps,
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xaos x and I finished our efforts to create a panel plugin to show you
the power states of the FR hardware components without using zhone. it
uhm, how does one use it?
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You must to add a tray icon area to panel!
i had -- the problem was simply that i had a task list applet (or whatever
the proper name is) and the panel does not obviously not resize entries to
show everything.
after removal of the applet the panel is shown.
What can I do if anything to fix this?
did you do as
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_FAQ#How_to_use_an_external_USB_or_Bluetooth_keyboard_with_the_FreeRunner_.3F
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awesome!
could you please put it into the wiki, debian page?
one thing for apt-get:
- you may install apt-zip -- it creates a script that downloads the
packages to update elsewhere
- maybe it would be sensible to use a shared folder of your host as apt
cache folder
both things together in a
and I can guess that the vN refers to a revision of my phone. Which
phone do I have? Is it marked somewhere?
this has been discussed several times and exhaustingly.
wherever you look, mailinglist archives or wiki you should immediately
find that the only gta02 revision currently in the wild
I'm trying to dual boot with 2008.8 or debian on my uSD but fdisk tells
...
qtopia's latest 20080808 image from their website.
now, i am confused.
do you use 2008.8 _or_ qtopia?
afair w/ 2008.8 there were no problems, but w/ qtopia qpe block the sd
card. some days ago a workaround for qtopia
Yes - I noticed that the AUX doesn't lock the screen anymore. I liked
that - I wish we will get it back.
The screen saver just kicks in after some idle time has passed.
pressing the pwr button for a few seconds does the trick mostly -- but
there's no indication and you easily press too long
would be nice if a led flashed or the device wiggled slightly.
*nod* will come soon.
i put a script to that effect into /etc/apm/suspend.d/ -- but it never got
called, whereas scripts in /etc/apm/resume.d/ do.
why is that?
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think about using the FR as a tablet pen??? It would be nice!
someone proposed using the fr like that a while ago.
but besides the sw-problems (it would require kernel module that presents
the fr as pointer device) it will probably kill the screen's surface in no
time.
(install.sh had trouble partitioning my 4gb SDHC) so I haven't been able
to install too many aps
...
using Debian made all of this a breeze, can't wait to get my 4gb card
working...
partition on your host and use later steps of install.sh -- or partition
on your host, mount and rsync the
I have a sandisk 8gb card, and it works just fine. I seem to recall
reading somewhere that 8gb was the biggest a FR could handle? or was it
that 8gb is the biggest that is known to work?
what means fine exactly?
- no bootsector corruption?
- no sudden data corruption?
- lost card on resume?
1 4gb FAT partition with the uImage.bin (one for each other partition)
why is that?
4gb just to host the kernels is ... waste.
But I have now more partitions (and these 2 ext3 ones are logical
ones now, and recognized as mmcblk0p5 and mmcblk0p6 instead of
mmcblk0p2 and mmcblk0p3 before
* can I change this table order without losing partition data ?
nope.
* can I have Extended partition number (mmcblk0p3 now) to be after the
logical ones (so that mmcnlk0p2 and mmcblk0p3 refer to the 2 first
logical ones, -just the same as in my 512MB card-) ?
nope. the logicla partitions
Anyway my partition table is now crashed thanks to suspend/resume issue.
I go digging in mailing list, I think I saw ways to recover... else
I'll have to start from 0...
any linux distribution should offer tools to recover lost partitions and
recreate partitiontables.
i think parted is
fine means with no troubles ;)
- bootsector corruption? I haven't tried booting off it yet
that's not necessary -- it manifest itself by total loss partition
informations
- I've not seen any data corruption
- I usually have power management turned off, because I don't trust it
ok. then
did you still want to know about my kernel? was my information enough /
usefull?
nope -- the funny part happens when suspending/resuming. since you don't
do that, there's no need.
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How did you recreate the same partitioning ? Informations from my
fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0 before the corruption will be enough to recreate
it the same way ?
yupp. just make sure you use blocks as unit.
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i want to compile the game lincity for the freerunner and everything
worked fine, but it doesn't works. it wants to cd in the sources-dir pon
my desktop (which is of course not available on my freerunner).
you probably missed one step in the installation process that sets the
pathes.
try
couldn't all informations on applications be extracted from ipks ?
Like what is done on http://packages.debian.org/stable/.
sadly, the ipks do not contain that kind of information.
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