Re: [2008.12] Help with Om.2008.12 on microsd
Kosa wrote: Hi there, I've been trying to boot 2008.12 from a microsd but it just can't. It starts booting but then it stops with an Only GTA01 hardware supported by ASoc driver message. It is not the card 'couse it works fine with fdom and shr. I'm having the same problem here. I've installed the kernel and the rootfs from tar.gz, the kernel boots but the logs say that many devices are missing or are unreadable. Then it stops booting. leonardo. -- http://leonardo.lilik.it Key fingerprint = 2C20 A587 05AC 42E5 1292 D0D4 3EED CFB5 52FD AD1E ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Help with nand u-boot environment
Hi all, I've been messing with u-boot and need some help. I was trying to set the rw parameter into bootargs to boot 2008.12 from SD. After a couple attempts, I had too many entries in the u-boot, and wanted to erase them all, so I used the defaultenv command in u-boot to reset them to the beginning. The beginning I think it's not a working environment. Now the environment is messed and I can't boot from NAND, only from NOR, even if I want to use internal flash and not SD. re-flashing the bootloader does not change the environment. Could somebody point me to a saved environment file somewhere? or, could anybody please upload a working environment into the wiki? All you have to do is boot into the menu (AUX+Power), connect a usb cable and use dfu to backup your environment: dfu-util -d 0x1d50:0x5119 -a u-boot_env -D env.orig I can assure you that having a backup copy of your own environment can turn out to be useful also to you, someday :-) One more question: if I use a menu item like this: setenv menu_1 Boot from microSD (2008.12): setenv rootfstype=ext2 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 \; mmcinit\; fatload mmc 1 0x3200 uImage.bin\; bootm 0x3200 and then run menu_1 I always (even if booting the kernel has success) see on the console an error: Unknown command 'Boot' - try 'help' is there a way to avoid this? thanks, leonardo. -- http://leonardo.lilik.it Key fingerprint = 2C20 A587 05AC 42E5 1292 D0D4 3EED CFB5 52FD AD1E ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Help with nand u-boot environment
Gothnet wrote: Hi everybody. Thanks for the help, I'm now able to boot both qt-extended and 2008.12! I'm still not really confident about u-boot syntax, I understand that setenv var content means set content into var, but what is the part of content that is displayed as a menu entry and what is the part that is executed? leonardo. -- http://leonardo.lilik.it Key fingerprint = 2C20 A587 05AC 42E5 1292 D0D4 3EED CFB5 52FD AD1E ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup
Hi Raster, thanks for the explanation. anyway. i hope this helps people understand how it works. someone can throw this onto the wiki if they like. this is the code i wrote for the illume kbd I've summarized this in a page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Illume_keyboard it's cool, you should really patent it! :-))) ciao, leonardo. -- http://leonardo.lilik.it Key fingerprint = 2C20 A587 05AC 42E5 1292 D0D4 3EED CFB5 52FD AD1E ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup
Helge Hafting wrote: leonardo wrote: More important, the patent is about reduced keyboard disambiguating. If the keyboard isn't reduced, i.e. it has all the keys, then that patent doesn't seem to apply. The illume keyboard aren't missing any keys for example. It only uses a dictionary because users sometimes miss. There is no ambiguity at all to resolve, only error correction for fat-fingered typing. (T9 does not try to resolve wrong-key misses) Disambiguating and error correction is not the same. Oh, and they mention keyboards. Many phones has keyboards with about 12 keys. The neo has a touchscreen instead, its two keys are not used for text input. :-) you're right.. what I meant while writing is that, since moko keyboard is not reduced, it could even suggest words instead of only correct errors without infringing T9. leonardo. -- http://leonardo.lilik.it Key fingerprint = 2C20 A587 05AC 42E5 1292 D0D4 3EED CFB5 52FD AD1E ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup
Stefan Monnier wrote: [1] - which is ironic given that they were invented to encourage people to publish their ideas rather than keep them secret. Actually, not so ironic: it basically means that rather than keeping them as internal secrets, they get to lock them in a government-provided vault. IIRC, the history of patents is a bit more interesing than people think, and the end result's paradoxes are not as unintended as you'd think. But it really should be expected: just as is still the case now (if not even more), the (potential) holders of big patent portfolio had a lot of leverage. We're going quite OT, but it's a nice talk. I thought I posted this link to the list, but instead I replied directly to Raster. On this topic I found quite interesting this book: http://levine.sscnet.ucla.edu/general/intellectual/against.htm Basically, there seems to be no evidence anywhere that patents ever helped development, in any age and country where applied. Obviously, the owner of T9 patent are richer then they were in 1995, but in general they produce more expenses then profits. leonardo. -- http://leonardo.lilik.it Key fingerprint = 2C20 A587 05AC 42E5 1292 D0D4 3EED CFB5 52FD AD1E ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Report on 4.4.3 src on FSO
Tomas Riveros Schober wrote: Could u please direct me to the right place? Thanks. http://qtextended.org/downloads/snapshots/ what are the changes in these snapshots? I'm still using QTE from 2008 with some bugs such as duplicate messages, duplicate calls and so on... is it worth upgrading? ciao leonardo. -- http://leonardo.lilik.it Key fingerprint = 2C20 A587 05AC 42E5 1292 D0D4 3EED CFB5 52FD AD1E ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
qt-extended-improved unpredictive keyboard
hi all, As I did for Qtopia, I’ve recompiled my un-predictive keyboard for qt-extended-improved. It is a patched version of the matchbox keyboard that comes with Qt made usable without a stylus.I’ve changed the layout from last time I touched it : * I found out how to suppress the hints bar, that never had any real use for me * I used wider picks to help people that do not play guitar and have regular size nails :-) * In the sourcecode you can find an attempt to use screen rotation (disabled now) to automatically switch to wide mode when sending sms. I didn’t have time to make it work. then you have to chose at each boot, the default one can not be changed. if you want screenshots explain me how to have them with qtextended :-) codebin here: http://leonardo.lilik.it/wordpress/2009/04/01/qt-extended-un-predictive-keyboard/ I put the whole keyboard source dir in the zip but i think I have only touched keyboardframe.cpp. I will send a patch for the git soon. ciao, leonardo. -- http://leonardo.lilik.it Key fingerprint = 2C20 A587 05AC 42E5 1292 D0D4 3EED CFB5 52FD AD1E ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qt-extended-improved unpredictive keyboard
Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:44 AM, leona...@lilik.it Hi, I'm very interested in testing this, but the source isn't in the zipfile ... For the screenshots, maybe you can try http://qtextended.org/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?lid=18 ? http://leonardo.lilik.it/wordpress/2009/04/01/qt-extended-un-predictive-keyboard/ here we go, you can find the source code in the zip and the .so including bugfix to make the first row not overlap with the prediction row. ciao, leonardo. -- http://leonardo.lilik.it Key fingerprint = 2C20 A587 05AC 42E5 1292 D0D4 3EED CFB5 52FD AD1E ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qt-extended-improved unpredictive keyboard
I just saw this as well: no enter on the keyboard layout? I'll check this out as soon as I have time... summarizing: - just noticed I have a double 'u' :-) - accents missing (don't really know how to do it..) - enter missing (better stay on switched keyboard) ciao, leonardo. -- http://leonardo.lilik.it Key fingerprint = 2C20 A587 05AC 42E5 1292 D0D4 3EED CFB5 52FD AD1E ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QtExtended] does anybody use matchbox keyboard?
Hi all, Does anybody use the matchbox keyboard on Qtextended? (the one with grey little letters unusable with your fingers?). I'm working on a different layout, finger-usable, and i will do a patch for Qtextended, the question is if in my patch I can modify matchbox keyboard or I should add a new keyboard. ciao, leonardo. -- http://leonardo.lilik.it Key fingerprint = 2C20 A587 05AC 42E5 1292 D0D4 3EED CFB5 52FD AD1E ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QT*] unpredictive keyboard
Hi list, I've changed strategy on the unpredictive qtopia/qtextended/qtextendedimproved keyboard. Instead of patching the matchbox keyboard I've changed the original qtopia keyboard. I've stretched it a little to make it larger and higher and i made it unpredictable. I added another gesture: if you slide from bottom-right along the diagonal to up-left you can toggle prediction. here you can find the binary and the patch. http://leonardo.lilik.it/wordpress/2009/04/26/qtextended-keyboard-made-unpredictive/ the patch is on Franky's git tree but I guess it works with any Qt* since the keyboard doesn't seem changed at all. The binary is for the qt-extended-improved I'm using.. two improvements are possible: - give a visual feedback when toggling prediction on/off - well, there are three more diagonal gestures that could be used if you have ideas. now matchbox seems quite useless. feedbacks are most welcome. ciao, leonardo. -- http://leonardo.lilik.it Key fingerprint = 2C20 A587 05AC 42E5 1292 D0D4 3EED CFB5 52FD AD1E ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QT*] unpredictive keyboard
Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 11:36:26 +0200 Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be wrote: Hi Franky, never mind ... wrong copy, ok now :-) Although I still believe no dictionaries should be updated when in non-predictive mode. I would also like not to have to click on a word before being able to enter a space and continue to the next word, so default accept would be nice as well in unpredictive mode ... I didn't have time to check your patch. Anyway you cannot avoid a way to accept a word. If you slide right, you put a whitespace, if you click on the bar you accept the word and you have a free whitespace. I've noticed also that while you wait for the animation to end, you can type new letters, so you don't waste time. Probably KeyboardWidget::acceptWord() and OptionsWindow::acceptWord() can benefit from you changes :-) - no more dictionary updates for non-predictive keyboard - disabled the animation for non-predictive keyboard (where the selected word was pulled into the correct place, it is nice but a bit overkill and too slow). that's better! Please check it out, I provided a .so file here: http://www.e-dynamics.be/openmoko/libqpredictivekeyboard.so thanks, the university server seems to be lazy today. tomorrow I hope it will be fixed. For the changes: http://github.com/liedekef/qtmoko/commit/f818d487e3552e9b9832a9f5942ddfc3a2330031 I've already build a new image with this (not online yet, since I'm setting it up on a new space). A visual hint for prediciveness would be nice, but I leave that up to you :-) I've checked it quickly, it doesn't seem really easy, I should get more ocnfident with Qt. I hope I will have time to make it visible. Is it better something like a p on a corner or a very short popup saying unpredictive? And a question: wouldn't it be more logical to add a space by default after each word? It was like that once I believe ... that's what it does. When you accept the word you have a whitespace added. Also, the capitalization is not working that good, maybe that can be off as well, or maybe that can be another option (left-bottom= right-up stroke + visual confirmation). capitalization doesn't work really ok. Well, it just doesn't work actually. Something I've noticed that could be improved is that if you type a single letter and you want to accept it it's quite hard to touch with your finger the letter, since it's quite little. I guess this is inherited from the predictive keyboard. It would be better to make the whole bar reactive instead of the single letter. ciao, leonardo. -- http://leonardo.lilik.it Key fingerprint = 2C20 A587 05AC 42E5 1292 D0D4 3EED CFB5 52FD AD1E ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QT*] unpredictive keyboard
I've already build a new image with this (not online yet, since I'm setting it up on a new space). A visual hint for prediciveness would be nice, but I leave that up to you :-) btw, I also added code for a backspace key. I *know* that you can slide to the left for backspace, but if you want to delete an entire sentence (or just 10 letters), this becomes ridiculous. Therefore: the backspace key is to be found in the same group as the return key. I've updated the current image with it. you can select the text you want to cancel and leftslide, but it's very unconfortable. Now just some buttons to quickly go from letters to ciphers and to the sentence-characters (.,?, etc...). Instead of always needing to slide up and down ... There's place for at least 3 extra signs on the letters screen, I would use them for uppercase (and in the uppercase version: lowercase), numbers and sentence-characters. This would work more reliable and quicker than the basic sliding ... we could use the other three diagonals. I think it's better then filling the keyboard with more buttons, or it will end up like matchbox keyboard. ciao, leonardo. -- http://leonardo.lilik.it Key fingerprint = 2C20 A587 05AC 42E5 1292 D0D4 3EED CFB5 52FD AD1E ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QT*] unpredictive keyboard
Roland wrote: Hello Leonardo and Franky, I haven't tried out your changes yet but they sound very useful. I would also prefer the three switching buttons suggested by Franky. I think when putting them e.g. at the far right, they wouldn't really fill up the space too much or make the other keys too small. if you try the patch you'll notice the keyboard is quite larger now... Another idea: Wouldn't it be possible to toggle the predictability of the keyboard through an option in the context (options) menu? By putting a checkmark in front you would also have a visual information about the state. I think this should be possible because when changing to the undocked keyboard the option Change input Method changes into a submenu. That was my first attempt, but it seems that that menu has nothing to deal with the keyboard itself. It just sends basic signals like create/destroy to the widget and sets up the next one. Anyway, toggling/untoggling predictability is not something you do that often I guess, and it works ok with the diagonal slide. I'm having harder time in showing some graphics on the keyboard to have a feedback from that action. ciao, leonardo. -- http://leonardo.lilik.it Key fingerprint = 2C20 A587 05AC 42E5 1292 D0D4 3EED CFB5 52FD AD1E ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QTEi] battery duration
Hi all, Is it my impression or QTEi from Franky tree has a much shorter lifetime then QTE? with standard QTE I could recharge once every 2/3 days, now it doesn't really get to the end of day. Franky, do you have any clue from where to start watching? ciao, leonardo. -- http://leonardo.lilik.it Key fingerprint = 2C20 A587 05AC 42E5 1292 D0D4 3EED CFB5 52FD AD1E ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
qtmoko keyboard
dear all.. I'm having problems with the ML I still have to fix, I can't receive messages anymore. The slide is from the bottom-right corner towards the diagonal. I've spent a few time in the past to find out how to have a visual feedback, but didn't really understand how to add a simple red dot somewhere on the screen.. I had to stop because I sent my moko to debuzz heaven, it came back today and next week I'll be out, I hope to send a couple patches soon. ciao, leonardo. -- http://leonardo.lilik.it Key fingerprint = 2C20 A587 05AC 42E5 1292 D0D4 3EED CFB5 52FD AD1E ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
