Re: OT: Ubuntu phone HTML5 / QML

2015-03-16 Thread Alfa21-mobile
Hi *,

I think it's difficult to gain interest of new users if a new user must buy
an old casing first of being able to use the new hardware

also, old casings are a limited resource and are awful to look compared to
newer and slimmer styles

moreover the old casings eventually need to be modified (drilled) by the
final user to host the camera


just my 2cents,
A21
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Re: OT: Ubuntu phone HTML5 / QML

2015-03-16 Thread Alfa21-mobile



 Well, that is not the goal of the GTA04A5 project. It was focussed right
 from the beginning (and therefore still is) to give
 those who already have a GTA02 a much more powerful processor and some
 newer peripherals.

 Like a replacement motor for an old car.



I know, and also for me it's interesting a new engine for an old car, but
you will never exit from the 12 statement if new users will remain cut off
from the game, imho.

your solution is directed only to a subset of older users and this can
hardly embrace a wide audience that allows to lower the final prices

from my pov, you are cutting out both:
- fresh users, potentially interested in getting a real open phone
- old users, interested in getting an open phone competitive on price


 -1 The price. for me it is afordable at 170 euro vs +/- 600 euro for a
 neo900 and slightly less for the GTA04A5

 -2 The device is in mass production, compared to the volumes of GTA04
 or neo900
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bt slide keyboard

2013-02-08 Thread Alfa21-mobile
do you know if there is something similar usable with gta?
http://www.usbgeek.com/collections/iphone/products/iphone5-case-slideout-keyboard

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sandwich case idea

2012-07-27 Thread Alfa21-mobile
hello,
what do you think about a multi layer case like this one, but made for GTA* ?
http://www.pibow.com/

look the low price!
I think something like this could also be made by a reprap or any 3D printer
...or laser cut service:
http://www.vectorealism.com/en/make-a-product/

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Re: power drain after wifi connection

2011-05-27 Thread Alfa21-mobile
 I am quite sure they are not called after disconnect. I think that the kernel
 is responsible to turn wifi off in suspend (unless you want to keep it on 
 during
 suspend e.g. for wake-on-wlan function).

 Yes, in suspend the kernel turns off the module completely, it
 shouldn't drain anything, at least it never used to.


ok, after some testing sessions I can confirm a unbind/bind cycle can
be used as workaround and the battery is in safe.
also empirically, I feel my gta02 gets warm a little when in stdby if
I do not unbind, removing the rear cover, in the area between the
battery and the smile hole.
instead if I never use wifi or unbind/rebind after the use, it keeps
the normal (ambient) temperature.

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Re: power drain after wifi connection

2011-05-26 Thread Alfa21-mobile
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com wrote:
 Basically, ``ls /sys/bus/platform/drivers/s3c2440-sdi'', it should let
 you know if the module (even when built-in) is binded or not. It
 shouldn't be if you want the card to not drain the battery.

 ``echo s3c2440-sdi  .../unbind'' (or bind) is how to handle this
 manually.

thanks for the hint!
but here it looks a little different:
root@neo:~# find /sys/bus/ -name '*sdi*'
/sys/bus/platform/devices/s3c2440-sdi
/sys/bus/platform/drivers/s3c-sdi
/sys/bus/platform/drivers/s3c-sdi/s3c2440-sdi
/sys/bus/sdio
/sys/bus/sdio/drivers/sdio_ar6000

the location is in devices and in drivers I see s3c-sdi

so I can find the unbind here:
root@neo:~# find /sys/bus/ -name '*unbind*'|grep sdi
/sys/bus/platform/drivers/s3c-sdi/unbind
/sys/bus/sdio/drivers/sdio_ar6000/unbind


how I can check if it's in bind or unbind state?
maybe the scripts in qtmoko try to unbind it using a wrong path?

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Re: power drain after wifi connection

2011-05-26 Thread Alfa21-mobile
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com wrote:
 Alfa21-mobile freerun...@my.is.it writes:
 so I can find the unbind here:
 root@neo:~# find /sys/bus/ -name '*unbind*'|grep sdi
 /sys/bus/platform/drivers/s3c-sdi/unbind
 ...
 how I can check if it's in bind or unbind state?

 If ar6000 is listed among the files at the path you mention, it's
 binded.

 maybe the scripts in qtmoko try to unbind it using a wrong path?

 Possibly so :)

 --
 Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software!
 mailto:fercer...@gmail.com


fine,

root@neo:~# echo s3c2440-sdi  /sys/bus/platform/drivers/s3c-sdi/unbind
root@neo:~# find /sys/bus/ -name '*sdi*'
/sys/bus/platform/devices/s3c2440-sdi
/sys/bus/platform/drivers/s3c-sdi
/sys/bus/sdio
/sys/bus/sdio/drivers/sdio_ar6000

now I see in internet, wireless lan = unavailable and it's not
possible to start a wifi connection.

root@neo:~# echo s3c2440-sdi  /sys/bus/platform/drivers/s3c-sdi/bind
root@neo:~# find /sys/bus/ -name '*sdi*'
/sys/bus/platform/devices/s3c2440-sdi
/sys/bus/platform/drivers/s3c-sdi
/sys/bus/platform/drivers/s3c-sdi/s3c2440-sdi
/sys/bus/sdio
/sys/bus/sdio/drivers/sdio_ar6000

now I see wifi ok and it's functional (verified also with arora browser)

the strange thing (for me) is: why at boot time it's binded but does
not consumes the battery untill the first wifi connection? btw I've to
check if after that, a unbind/bind operation can fix this issue...
I'll tell you asap!

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Re: power drain after wifi connection

2011-05-26 Thread Alfa21-mobile
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote:
 On Thursday 26 May 2011 12:08:07 Paul Fertser wrote:
 Alfa21-mobile freerun...@my.is.it writes:
  maybe the scripts in qtmoko try to unbind it using a wrong path?

 Possibly so :)

 You can run the script from terminal and see if it is ok. All the scripts are
 in /opt/qtmoko/bin - it's very easy to check what they do.


hi radek,i can confirm they are correct:
root@neo:~# grep -r sdi /opt/qtmoko/bin/
/opt/qtmoko/bin/wifi-bind.sh:echo s3c2440-sdi 
/sys/bus/platform/drivers/s3c-sdi/bind
/opt/qtmoko/bin/wifi-unbind.sh:echo s3c2440-sdi 
/sys/bus/platform/drivers/s3c-sdi/unbind

and are executables... but I do not know neither if they are called
after a wifi disconnection, nor if after an unbind/bind cycle the
power consumption during stdby returns to the same state like after a
reboot (now I'm testing this one)

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Re: [QtMoko] USB charging (and network) from Windows 7

2011-05-25 Thread Alfa21
2011-05-25@00:05 Paul Fertser
 Alfa21 freerun...@my.is.it writes:
  2011-05-24@14:15 Xavier Cremaschi
   If you try om utility (from omhacks package) it could have parameter for 
   enabling fast charge. Then you can edit the Fast charge mode script so 
   that 
   it uses om command (and send the result to me so that i can commit it 
   as 
   patch ;-).  
  Thanks for the hint. As soon as I will be able to log through ssh I will
  try to find a way to make it work (86ma is probably not enough to start
  WiFi)
 
  ah! keep in mind: if you enable wifi at least once in any boot
  cycle, your moko will drain more current than usual, also if you
  disconnect wifi and put the phone to sleep.
 
 Are you really sure? Because i'm not aware of any bugs in this
 area. Please clarify.
 

here on my v34 the issue is 100% repeatable... I thought it was a known one, 
isn't it?
sometimes I use wifi to check emails before going to sleep and can happens I 
forget to reboot my gta02, so the following morning I find my battery almost 
empty or phone in power-off state (it shuts down itself when the charge is 
under certain level)

(IIRC there is nothing in the v35 changelog about this topic)

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power drain after wifi connection (was: [QtMoko] USB charging (and network) from Windows 7)

2011-05-25 Thread Alfa21
2011-05-25@23:31 Paul Fertser
 Hm, you do not spare too many details, do you :) Are you really sure
 the ar6000 module is unbinded when you disable wifi?

sorry, I didn't know which kind of details you meant...

root@neo:~# lsmod 
Module  Size  Used by
sco 6501  4 
bnep8748  2 
rfcomm 30320  20 
l2cap  28055  16 bnep,rfcomm
ipv6  214344  16 
ppp_generic18572  0 
slhc4659  1 ppp_generic
g_ether21328  0 
s3c2410_udc11483  1 g_ether

the same list before, during, after a successful wifi connection.
I do not find any ar6000 in /lib/modules.

root@neo:~# uname -a
Linux neo 2.6.34.8-v33 #1 Thu Mar 3 21:19:00 CET 2011 armv4tl GNU/Linux

btw, in neocontrol I see around 225000 discharging current both before and 
after wifi, during the connection I see 35.

now I've half battery, tomorrow morning I'll tell you if it's empty... I do not 
know if it something like my phone does not go in deep sleep anymore after a 
wifi connection because I do not know how to check the power consumption during 
std-by state.

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Re: [qtmoko] power drain after wifi connection

2011-05-25 Thread Alfa21
2011-05-26@01:01 Timo Juhani Lindfors
 Alfa21 freerun...@my.is.it writes:
  btw, in neocontrol I see around 225000 discharging current
 
 Sounds wrong, are you using the backlight? If yes, turn it off :-)
 
  You might want to steal some ideas from my comment in
 
 http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2277#comment:23
 
 on how to measure wifi power consumption in a bit more reliable way.


yes, the backlight is full on... but the interesting thing is the value does 
not change before/after the wifi connection.

afaik the difference is in the std-by power consumption and I think any script 
does not run during the std-by power state.

mmh.. a question: I do not remember how to verify if it goes in sleep or in 
deep-sleep

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Re: [QtMoko] USB charging (and network) from Windows 7

2011-05-24 Thread Alfa21
2011-05-24@14:15 Xavier Cremaschi
  If you try om utility (from omhacks package) it could have parameter for 
  enabling fast charge. Then you can edit the Fast charge mode script so 
  that 
  it uses om command (and send the result to me so that i can commit it as 
  patch ;-).  
 Thanks for the hint. As soon as I will be able to log through ssh I will
 try to find a way to make it work (86ma is probably not enough to start
 WiFi)
 

ah! keep in mind: if you enable wifi at least once in any boot cycle, your moko 
will drain more current than usual, also if you disconnect wifi and put the 
phone to sleep.
you have to reboot your phone to actually cut down the power consumption after 
a wireless connection.
...so beware, because in 100mA charging mode maybe you are actually discharging 
the phone.

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Re: [QtMoko] faenqomod updated

2011-05-21 Thread Alfa21
2011-05-20@14:00 Joif
 Hi!
 This [¹] is a little update of FaenqoMod, changelog:
 - added two icons for the addressbook; 
 - new layout for the home screen with a BIG clock (:
 - new layout for the titlebar with the great return of the clock close to
 the battery icon;
 Screenshots at http://db.tt/vG5D0yZ

hi j,
thank you for the new theme, I've installed on my phone and I like it... in 
particular both big and small clocks :)
there is just one thing I prefer in Faenqo (not -Mod) and it's the battery 
charge indicator, because it does indicate the actual level while charging and 
not just a blinking effect.

kind regards and good job :)


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Re: About QtMoko future

2011-05-16 Thread Alfa21-mobile
 Then we need debian packages for FSO stack (anyone know if they exists and
 what is the current status?) and we can start using it.


you can look here:

http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=fsosearchon=namessuite=allsection=all

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Re: qtmoko v34 regressions in themes background preview

2011-04-01 Thread Alfa21
2011-03-31@14:36 Radek Polak
 * themes now use jpg for backgrounds to save space (Tiago Bortoletto Vaz)


any updated theme now no longer display the background preview in appearance 
setting application.
the only one visible in preview is, in faenqomod, the one labelled debian2.
maybe the others does not have jpg thumbnails? or maybe this one is not a jpg 
and preview does not support jpg format?

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Re: qtmoko v34 joydev is not loaded after an apt upgrade

2011-04-01 Thread Alfa21
2011-03-31@14:36 Radek Polak
 * accelerometers in QtMaze now work

upgrading with apt, this is not fixed
joydev is not in /etc/modules

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Re: qtmoko v34 BlueTooth regressions

2011-03-31 Thread Alfa21
2011-03-31@14:36 Radek Polak
 If there are no regressions against v33 i think this release could be moved 
 from exprimental to stable.


hi, tnx for the new baby :)

beware:
themes and other apps are not included in apt repository, so they are not 
upgraded.
new (34-1) qtmoko and linux packages are not digitally signed and we get an 
untrusted warning.

a regression, not against v33 but maybe since the bluez4 upgrade:
in paired devices when we connect an headset/handsfree there is no longer the 
green ball near the active one and if you have more than one device listed it's 
difficult to know which one is enabled.

another regression always in bt is when you enable an headset/handsfree and gta 
goes to suspend mode loosing the connection, on incoming calls the bt 
connection is not re-established on wake and you have to answer from the phone.

also, IIRC, older versions of qtmoko (~v19?) when an handsfree was active, the 
profile was automatically switched to car and that was nice because an user 
could configure a different power management to disable the suspend also if on 
battery: in fact when gta suspends it looses the connection to the handsfree 
and it's not possible to make calls managed by the external (bt) system.

regards

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[qtmoko] lost new contacts

2011-03-28 Thread Alfa21 mobile
hi all,
again I see new contacts added to my addressbook disappears when I shut down my 
gta02... is it possible I'm the only one with this problem?
recently,after a clean install of v33,I added few contacts (5) and they are 
here in my list, but now I loose any new contact.
usually I add them from new received sms... but I do not think there is any 
difference.

please tell me if i'm ok because I'm going crazy ;p
kind regards
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Re: apps qtmoi

2011-03-27 Thread Alfa21
2011-03-27@10:07 Radek Polak
 Alfa21 mobile wrote:
 
  qsamegame: i'm not able to see the game board.
 
 I guess we need someone to fix it.
 
  qtopiagps: 404 .deb not found on the server.
 
 This app does not compile now probably because of api change in libgps. And 
 it 
 also uses GPSD which i was unable to make working in debian squeeze.
 
 Regards
 
 Radek

mmh I think it's better to split the page between stable / experimental apps...
(also maybe apps should be addons or something similar because a theme is 
not an application)

about the 404 topic, if it's possible to use php or similar on the web server 
side should be possible to dynamically include subsections only when the 
related .deb is present (app compiled).
[if you like I can do this in php]

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apps qtmoi

2011-03-25 Thread Alfa21 mobile
qsamegame: i'm not able to see the game board.

qtopiagps: 404 .deb not found on the server.
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Re: [Hackable1-user] First beta version of the DeforaOS smartphone environment on hackable:1

2011-03-21 Thread Alfa21
2011-03-21@11:48 Pierre Pronchery
 Is still adheres to the initial goal of hackable:1, as in:
 - based on Debian,
 - focusing on GNOME Mobile software and user experience.


hi,
I do not understand the second point... have you already considered LXDE, for 
example?
can you argue this choice? My concerns are mainly about the GNOME footprint in 
a limited resource environment (and no, I've nothing against gnome's logo ^_^ 
hehehe)

kind regards and tia for the answer(s)!

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Re: [Qtmoko] automatic time?

2011-03-18 Thread Alfa21
2011-03-18@15:12 Vinzenz Hersche

 Hello all, 
 one of my biggest problems is, that my time and date will be resetet from 
 time 
 to time. i know the solution with the hw-fix, but i didn't get time and stuff 
 to 
 do that.
 qtmoko also got a setting automatic which could be set to on, off or ask.
 if i like to use the automatic time (so set to on), i always got a message : 
 no automatic time information is currently avaible, also when it got's 
 internet. could i set anywhere a ntp-server or so to fix that? it would be 
 nice 
 if it correct the time/date when it got internet. the calendar/todo-list 
 would 
 be much more useable then. :)
 greets

hi,
I suggest you to install ntp on your freerunner

after that, each time there is an internet connection of any kind, your system 
time will be automatically synchronized with a time server.
(personally tested on usb, wifi, gprs)
it's a system daemon, so it does not consider your qtmoko's setting.

BEWARE:
also if you do not want to hw-fix your rtc failed battery, you should set your 
rtc accordingly to your system time!!
assuming you have a failed rtc battery, your rtc time will be ok until you 
remove usb cable and you do not have power from the main battery.

so, to fix your rtc datetime, when needed, you have to:
1) log into your freerunner in SSH from another computer
2) close qtmoko program and verify no atd daemon is still running (or kill it)
3) verify your current system time is ok: date
4) synchronize rtc with system time: hwclock -w
5) verify your rtc is now ok: hwclock -r
6) reboot your moko: reboot


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Re: [Qtmoko] automatic time?

2011-03-18 Thread Alfa21
2011-03-18@19:44 Alfa21
 so, to fix your rtc datetime, when needed, you have to:
 1) ... blah blah blah 6) reboot your moko: reboot


sorry sorry sorry!
valid but obsolete and comlex procedure given :P

the new one, to write the date in your rtc, is just:
(it's ok in qterminal also)
1) echo -n W  /var/spool/at/trigger

that's all! ;)
you do not have to stop neither qpe nor atd



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Re: [qtmoko33] wifi wpa2-psk issue (was: qtmoko v33)

2011-03-17 Thread Alfa21 mobile

On Wednesday, March 16, 2011 13:17:56, Radek Polak wrote:
 On Tuesday 08 March 2011 22:29:22 Alfa21 wrote:
 
  2011-03-05@17:14 Alfa21
  
   2011-03-05@12:42 Radek Polak
   
 * unable to connect wifi wpa2-psk

Was is working in some older versions? It can be bug either in
wpa_supplicatant or in qmoko wifi plugin that creates configuration for
wpa_supplicant. Does it work when you setup wpa_supplicant from command
line? I am trying to connect WPA2-psk here and it does not work too :(
   
   previously I had v31 and it was ok, but only on the first attempt and
   then I needed to reboot (rebooted also because wifi didn't stop and
   battery drain empty in few hours) the blue led in v31 did never turn on
   while connected.
   before v31 it was all ok... IIRC
  
  hi,
  I tried to manually configure the wifi link:
  as you can read below, seems to be something different with the wpa driver
  in v33...
 
 Hmm i just tested wpa2-psk here at work and it works (only the first connect 
 after reboot). But it can be of course different AP. You could try to enable 
 Networking category in Settings-Logging and send me full log. Or you could 
 try to replace wpa_supplicant with package from lenny. But I am not wifi 
 expert 
 so cant promise anything.
 
 Regards
 
 Radek
 

hi radek, i'm sorry for the silence.
i found the solution about this topic:
1) qtmoko doesn't kill wpa-supplicant closing wifi the first good time, this is 
bad!
2) because of previous point i messed too much and missconfigured my ap.. so i 
tried with wrong settings, ignore me: current supplicant is ok!
3) remains the problem of battery discharge when you disconnect from wifi:maybe 
interface doesn't go to sleep?btw i can force this by script (wifi off)

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Re: qtmoko33 regression in qtmaze (was: [cutemaze] on [qtmoko 33] howto control moves?)

2011-03-17 Thread Alfa21 mobile

On Tuesday, March 15, 2011 14:50:00, Radek Polak wrote:
 On Tuesday 08 March 2011 22:49:19 Alfa21 mobile wrote:
 
  ouch! you're right: qtmaze regression, the ball stuck firmly in the initial
  position!
 
 IIRC you need modprobe joydev I'll try to fix it for next release.
 
 Regards
 
 Radek
 
 

fix confirmed here! :)
tnx
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Re: [qtmoko33] wifi wpa2-psk issue (was: qtmoko v33)

2011-03-17 Thread Alfa21 mobile

 
  3) remains the problem of battery discharge when you
  disconnect from wifi:maybe interface doesn't go to sleep?btw i can force
  this by script (wifi off)
 
 
 I think we can add this to wifi script as well. I will do it tomorrow at work 
 where i can test it.
 
 Regards
 
 Radek
 

no, beware! if you turn off wifi in that way, then the line in internet gui 
tells no wifi interfaces available! it's too low level in that way, imo.
i would prefer a way which put the interface in its initial state but keeps it 
available and not removed.
i've to check but maybe killing supplicant is just enough... i'll verify and 
report you about that.

regards
ps: now i'm on wifi with qtmoko email client, from a pub's hotspot ;)
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[qtmoko33] wifi doesn't power off and drains the battery (was: qtmoko v33)

2011-03-09 Thread Alfa21-mobile
On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Alfa21 freerun...@my.is.it wrote:
 previously I had v31 and it was ok, but only on the first attempt and then I 
 needed to reboot
 (rebooted also because wifi didn't stop and battery drain empty in few hours)

quoting myself to report this bug is present in v33 too:

if you successfully connect to any wifi network (in v33 only open
networs are accessible) then the hardware remains in active state,
draining the battery flat in few hours depsite you disable the
connection via the software interface.

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Re: [qtmoko33] wifi doesn't power off and drains the battery (was: qtmoko v33)

2011-03-09 Thread Alfa21-mobile
yes, I can confirm, with the command:
echo s3c2440-sdi  /sys/bus/platform/drivers/s3c-sdi/unbind
the battery charge is in safe :)
tnx!


On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 2:29 PM, W. B. Kranendonk wankelwan...@yahoo.com wrote:


 --- On Wed, 3/9/11, Alfa21-mobile freerun...@my.is.it wrote:
 if you successfully connect to any wifi network (in v33
 only open
 networs are accessible) then the hardware remains in active
 state,
 draining the battery flat in few hours depsite you disable
 the
 connection via the software interface.
 Ah, that explains..! I had such an idea, after my battery ran out much faster 
 than I expected.

 In general, is there a GUI-feedback on the neo-quick-settings (or what is it, 
 top left icon with the cogwheels when using Faenqo?)

 For now, I put most of them in favourites, so that I will return to home 
 after successfully clicking something. The current status of some of them I 
 have been able to find back in the GUI, so I understand that for now /proc 
 can be consulted for the current status?

 Boudewijn




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Re: bug: sd card not unmounting

2011-03-09 Thread Alfa21-mobile
no, not here.
I've v33 and works for me! (full installation on uSD with 3
partitions: storage/rootfs/swap)

rather, are you 100% sure about your hardware clock? otherwise system
vs rtc clock skews may trigger a check of the filesystem!

regards.


On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 6:36 PM, dmatthews.org m...@dmatthews.org wrote:
 I do think this is a bug new in v33

 as described below any shutdown/reboot, whether from commandline or gui, 
 means that a fsck of the card reports it was not cleanly unmounted.

 I ran

 lsof | grep /media/card

 to show no open files - but this is too regular (100% reproducible) and never 
 happened after a clean shutdown on v26. In any case the system should force a 
 close of any unopen files and an umount before it shuts down.

  I automount a sd card partition (ext2); the system does not seem to
  unmount it cleanly. It makes no difference whether I halt or reboot
  either from the gui or commandline; when the neo comes back up if I
  fsck the card it reports that it was not unmounted cleanly.
 





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Re: Buzz Fix

2011-03-09 Thread Alfa21
2011-03-09@12:05 Wesley Frazier

 Pretty familiar with alsamixer, although what do I need to do to save
 the scenario file?

in a shell:
alsactl -f /my/path/to/test.scenario store


 Do you think it is worth my time to pursue getting the buzzfix or
 should I just wait for the GTA04 ? Whats the expected release date /
 price ?

I think you should try with the mixer.
afaik there is no release date by now for the upcoming gta04.

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Re: bug: sd card not unmounting

2011-03-09 Thread Alfa21
2011-03-09@20:26 Neil Jerram
 Interesting.  Is there a way to check for the filesystem was not
 unmounted cleanly status without removing the uSD and taking it to
 another computer?
 
Neil

yes, you can play with the usb file storage gadget module.
== /opt/qtmoko/bin/usb-mass-storage-on.sh

it should be quite the same as accessing the uSD as inserted into an usb reader.
(btw there is a known bug with g_file_storage module in v33 and you could get a 
kernel panic)

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Re: [Faenqo theme] date/time

2011-03-08 Thread Alfa21-mobile
I'm sorry for the name error (I've just copy/pasted it from the apps page)

about the theme, personally, I'd like the both small and big (huge)
clock solution in the two positions.
they should be both visible also when the lock and key are showed on
screen... maybe lateral place or vertical if possible.

kind regards and good work.



On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:49 AM, cyberesprit cyberesp...@cyberesprit.fr wrote:
 Hello!

 Thanks Joif for your help ^^

 Well, it could be an interesting idea to have a date/time indicator that

 appears in the titlebar only when you are not at the homescreen.

 Excellent !

 If I removed the date and time, it is because I found it unnecessary to see
 all the time .. but you're not alone in asking this question.

 In some applications, the time may be obscured by the widget that lets you
 change keyboard.

 Now, if the possibility of giving the choice to the user in configuring the
 theme would be possible .. it would be great

 Volunteers? ^^

 Le mardi 08 mars 2011 09:57:48, Francesco De Vita a écrit :

 Hi!

 He is cyberesprit not cyberspirit ;) About the position of the date/time

 it is possibile to move it near the carghe indicator. But because we

 have much space in the homescreen, do you prefer to have the date/time

 indicator only in the titlebar (in the top) or to have it also in the

 homescreen (it is a redundancy, but a bigger date/time indicator here is

 easier to read)?

 Well, it could be an interesting idea to have a date/time indicator that

 appears in the titlebar only when you are not at the homescreen.



 Regards

 Joif



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[qtmoko] email client bug with multipart/mixed

2011-03-08 Thread Alfa21-mobile
I think qtmoko's email client program does not support mixed multipart.

when I receive an email of that kind i see:
Name 0 multipart/alternative
Type multipart/alternative
No viewer available

no problem with multipart/alternative kind of email.
you can see pasted below selected email headers of booth OK and NOT_OK
kind of emails.



THIS IS OK
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
  boundary=Boundary-01=_5xhdN/yWqqx2+tj
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-Id: 201103081309.29361.cyberesp...@cyberesprit.fr

--Boundary-01=_5xhdN/yWqqx2+tj
Content-Type: text/plain;
  charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
/THIS IS OK



THIS IS NOT OK
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary0406204840==
Sender: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org
Errors-To: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org

--===0406204840==
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
  boundary=Boundary-01=_uufdNynmOmBH6MN
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

--Boundary-01=_uufdNynmOmBH6MN
Content-Type: text/plain;
  charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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[qtmoko33] usb storage issue and kernel panic (was Re: qtmoko v33)

2011-03-08 Thread Alfa21-mobile
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Alfa21 freerun...@my.is.it wrote:
 * fixed usb mass storage script

 I like the added logic to use the whole sdcard or a specific partition!

 btw why in fstab you consider swap on p4? is there any doc about use of p3 in 
 qtmoko?
 (I usually set uSD's p1 as storage, p2 as rootfs, p3 as swap)

 ah, about fs type... do you consider for future releases using btrfs or ext4? 
 I know they have optimizations for flash memory kind of storage.


hi radek,
I modified the last line in on script like:
#modprobe g_file_storage file=${DEV_NAME} stall=0
modprobe g_file_storage file=${DEV_NAME} stall=0 removable=y

this because otherwise (at least with a specific single partition
scenario) the usb drive is not usable with windows.
with linux and my home tv-set and home theater is always accessible,
with or without the removable=y directive.
this change just add the compatibility with windows OS (tested on winXP).

btw, both now and before, I get kernel panic changing usb mode back
and forth storage/ethernet more than twice... :(
I'm not able to tell more on this issue because on reboot do not see
anything interesting inside logs :S

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[qtmoko33 regression] segfaults moving items in star menu (was: qtmoko v33)

2011-03-08 Thread Alfa21
2011-03-05@17:14 Alfa21

   * got some segfaults changing the theme and then opening the dialer  
  
  IIRC it crashed here to, but after restart it was ok.  
 
 yeah, the same here... it's not a show stopper bug.


another segfault always reproducible and no workaround available AFAIK to sort 
items in preferred menu:

- long pres aux button
- in starred tab, long press on the item you want to move up/down
- select in contextual menu move
- select its final position in the list
= segmentation fault, qpe restarts, items keeps old positions

this was ok in the previous qtmoko release I had (v31)

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[qtmoko33] wifi wpa2-psk issue (was: qtmoko v33)

2011-03-08 Thread Alfa21
2011-03-05@17:14 Alfa21

 2011-03-05@12:42 Radek Polak
 
   * unable to connect wifi wpa2-psk  
  
  Was is working in some older versions? It can be bug either in 
  wpa_supplicatant or in qmoko wifi plugin that creates configuration for 
  wpa_supplicant. Does it work when you setup wpa_supplicant from command 
  line? 
  I am trying to connect WPA2-psk here and it does not work too :(  
 
 previously I had v31 and it was ok, but only on the first attempt and then I 
 needed to reboot
 (rebooted also because wifi didn't stop and battery drain empty in few hours)
 the blue led in v31 did never turn on while connected.
 before v31 it was all ok... IIRC


hi,
I tried to manually configure the wifi link:
as you can read below, seems to be something different with the wpa driver in 
v33...

Initializing interface 'eth0' conf '/etc/wpa_supplicant/test.conf' driver 
'default' ctrl_interface 'N/A' bridge 'N/A'
Configuration file '/etc/wpa_supplicant/test.conf' - 
'/etc/wpa_supplicant/test.conf'
Reading configuration file '/etc/wpa_supplicant/test.conf'
ctrl_interface='/var/lib/wpa_supplicant'
ctrl_interface_group='0'
eapol_version=1
fast_reauth=1
ap_scan=1
Priority group 0
   id=0 ssid='A21_net'
Initializing interface (2) 'eth0'
Interface eth0 set UP - waiting a second for the driver to complete 
initialization
SIOCGIWRANGE: WE(compiled)=22 WE(source)=13 enc_capa=0x0
  capabilities: key_mgmt 0x0 enc 0x3 flags 0x0
ioctl[SIOCSIWESSID]: Invalid argument
WEXT: Operstate: linkmode=1, operstate=5
Own MAC address: 00:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX
wpa_driver_wext_set_wpa
wpa_driver_wext_set_key: alg=0 key_idx=0 set_tx=0 seq_len=0 key_len=0
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
Driver did not support SIOCSIWENCODEEXT, trying SIOCSIWENCODE
wpa_driver_wext_set_key: alg=0 key_idx=1 set_tx=0 seq_len=0 key_len=0
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
Driver did not support SIOCSIWENCODEEXT, trying SIOCSIWENCODE
wpa_driver_wext_set_key: alg=0 key_idx=2 set_tx=0 seq_len=0 key_len=0
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
Driver did not support SIOCSIWENCODEEXT, trying SIOCSIWENCODE
wpa_driver_wext_set_key: alg=0 key_idx=3 set_tx=0 seq_len=0 key_len=0
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
Driver did not support SIOCSIWENCODEEXT, trying SIOCSIWENCODE
wpa_driver_wext_set_countermeasures
wpa_driver_wext_set_drop_unencrypted
RSN: flushing PMKID list in the driver
Setting scan request: 0 sec 10 usec


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qtmoko33 regression in qtmaze (was: [cutemaze] on [qtmoko 33] howto control moves?)

2011-03-08 Thread Alfa21 mobile

On Tuesday, March 8, 2011 21:32:55, Joif wrote:
 Hi!
 Are we talking about QtMaze? If so I noticed that in the v33, and at least
 in QtMaze, the accelerometers do not work. Instead, the new game Gottet (a
 tetris clone) that I found in the apps page, seems to not have any kind of
 control buttons. I don't know if in previous version of QtMoko it worked


ouch! you're right: qtmaze regression, the ball stuck firmly in the initial 
position!

but no, cutemaze is a different game affected by the same issue you have found 
in gottet.

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Re: Buzz Fix

2011-03-08 Thread Alfa21
2011-03-08@21:04 Wesley Frazier

 Anybody have any tips on mitigating the buzz?
 
 If I have a model with the buzz, will grabbing the GTA04 motherboard
 when it comes out correct it?

try to low the gain of your mic with alsamixer during a call and if you like 
the result save the status in the scenario file(s)
the drawback is you have to speak loud

about gta04: it's a completely different hardware to be put inside your case, 
not an upgrade module for gta02 board... the only thing you keep from your 
current phone is just the plastic case and the display ;) (+the battery, maybe)
(and I hope we don't have similar hw issues in the new gta04 too! ^_^)

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qtmoko theme and answer usability

2011-03-07 Thread Alfa21
hi qtmoko theme designers,
some month ago someone said there is a theme with a slider for the answer/busy 
actions... can you point me out which is? (I do not remember the name and where 
I can download it)
tia!
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messages through background [was Re: qtmoko v33]

2011-03-07 Thread Alfa21
2011-03-05@17:14 Alfa21

   * visible kernel messages through the graphic desktop of qtmoko  
  
  Kernel should not print anything except serious errors. That should be 
  fixed in 
  kernel instead. Do you know which message did you see?  
 
 it's the console output, not only kernel messages, sorry.
 in v31 for example I was able to see messages about wifi connection/dhcp

again on this topic: I can see painted over the background image ^@ for each 
time I press the AUX button


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[cutemaze] on [qtmoko 33] howto control moves?

2011-03-07 Thread Alfa21
hi,
I've installed cutemaze on my qtmoko33 from the apps web page.

someone can explain me how to control my direction in the game, pls?

what's the binding of up/down/left/right/space?
...no touchscreen, no accelerometers...

tia!
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[Faenqo theme] date/time

2011-03-07 Thread Alfa21

hi Cyberspirit,
I like your faenqo theme and I've adopted it for my freerunner because with the 
small footprint of the head-bar I've more usable screen space.

the only drawback I can find is the position of the date and time... can you 
please move them near the charge indicator?

otherwise it's not possible to see them while an application is running, eg: 
arora or any other.


kind regards


ps: actually I like the just 3 buttons solution (also because now I've 
configured the autolock on suspend feature) and the ability to see the battery 
level also while it's charging, instead of a blinking christmas tree with no 
information ;)

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Re: qtmoko v33

2011-03-05 Thread Alfa21
2011-03-04@23:50 Gennady Kupava

 В Птн, 04/03/2011 в 22:16 +0100, Alfa21 пишет:
 
   * new theme faenqo (cyberspirit)
  
  nice, but how to lock the screen? :P
 
 in pull-up menu on main screen, first item is screen lock
 
 Gennady

doh!
thanks a lot ^^'
i like it :D

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Re: qtmoko v33

2011-03-05 Thread Alfa21
2011-03-05@12:42 Radek Polak

  * unable to connect wifi wpa2-psk
 
 Was is working in some older versions? It can be bug either in 
 wpa_supplicatant or in qmoko wifi plugin that creates configuration for 
 wpa_supplicant. Does it work when you setup wpa_supplicant from command line? 
 I am trying to connect WPA2-psk here and it does not work too :(

previously I had v31 and it was ok, but only on the first attempt and then I 
needed to reboot
(rebooted also because wifi didn't stop and battery drain empty in few hours)
the blue led in v31 did never turn on while connected.
before v31 it was all ok... IIRC


  * got some segfaults changing the theme and then opening the dialer
 
 IIRC it crashed here to, but after restart it was ok.

yeah, the same here... it's not a show stopper bug.


  * removed package vim-tiny from v33 .tgz, please re-add it as default ;)
 
 Hmm i am trying to keep the image as small as possible. I'd rather prefer if 
 people could install they favourite apps with apt-get.

I agree, but I think vi/vim is quite a basic tool in any distribution.
I'd remove nano instead, not so common as vi is.
btw, nano is 1786kB, vim-tiny is 1114kB ;)


  * visible kernel messages through the graphic desktop of qtmoko
 
 Kernel should not print anything except serious errors. That should be fixed 
 in 
 kernel instead. Do you know which message did you see?

it's the console output, not only kernel messages, sorry.
in v31 for example I was able to see messages about wifi connection/dhcp


  btw why in fstab you consider swap on p4? is there any doc about use of p3
  in qtmoko? (I usually set uSD's p1 as storage, p2 as rootfs, p3 as swap)
 
 I used to partition my SD card like:
 
 p1 for vfat
 p2 for qtmoko
 p3 for android/SHR
 p4 for swap
 
 I dont know if it's good idea to change this scheme. You can always make p3 
 and p4 partitions to match this scheme.

ok, no problem for me as I can edit fstab... but at logic level I think p3 for 
android/shr is not strictly necessary for qtmoko and in general for a clean 
qtmoko phone ;)


  ah, about fs type... do you consider for future releases using btrfs or
  ext4? I know they have optimizations for flash memory kind of storage.
 
 IIRC you can use ext4 - it's compiled in kernel. Btrfs could be nice, but i 
 dont know if it makes sence now - e.g. if it performs good on FR. Unless 
 someone benchmarks it and proves that it works good on FR i'd like to keep 
 support only for ext2/ext3/ext4.

tried ext4 without success... I think it's just qi(v33) problem, maybe it lacks 
ext4 support.

kind regards, a.

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getty optimization, 3MB ram free and 6 running process less

2011-03-05 Thread Alfa21
hi community

I see in /etc/inittab we usually spawn 6 getty:
1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1
2:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty2
3:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty3
4:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty4
5:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty5
6:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty6

I think we can comment out them all to free 3MB of ram and to have less running 
useless programs.
on my phone I've no tty active: I login only from ssh or from gui.
(obviously virtual terminal is not affected by this change)

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[qtmoko] call history, name/number association lost after each reboot

2011-03-05 Thread Alfa21
hi radek,
I see in the call history application, the name/number association for new 
calls is kept only until qpe reboot.

on a new boot we can see only numbers for the previous calls, names are lost.
new calls are ok again... until next reboot.

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Re: qtmoko v33

2011-03-04 Thread Alfa21

 Here is list of changes since v32:

any difference since the previous exp. release of qi? I can see a v33 now...


 * new web with applications and themes [4]

col! this is the killer point of the new release! ^_^
I suggest you to add a default bookmark in arora browser (maybe instead of 
reddit!)


 My plan for next version is to fix regression if you find any

* unable to connect wifi wpa2-psk
* got some segfaults changing the theme and then opening the dialer
* removed package vim-tiny from v33 .tgz, please re-add it as default ;)
* visible kernel messages through the graphic desktop of qtmoko
* orange (charge) led is dark, but I like it more :)


 * new theme faenqo (cyberspirit)

nice, but how to lock the screen? :P


 * fixed usb mass storage script

I like the added logic to use the whole sdcard or a specific partition!

btw why in fstab you consider swap on p4? is there any doc about use of p3 in 
qtmoko?
(I usually set uSD's p1 as storage, p2 as rootfs, p3 as swap)

ah, about fs type... do you consider for future releases using btrfs or ext4? I 
know they have optimizations for flash memory kind of storage.


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Re: qtmoko v32 (experimental) - led indicators

2011-02-03 Thread Alfa21
hi,
since v31 I fount a reduced led light under the power button (near the usb 
port) while it's connected and charging
the orange is really soft and almost unnoticeable

I don't know if it's a wanted change or a bug

a similar issue with the wifi blue led, but it remains completely off and it's 
now unclear when we have an open connection unless we open the internet tool.
(also we don't have an icon on the display... eg like the G for gprs)

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Re: qtmoko, address book issue (v32 edition)

2011-02-03 Thread Alfa21

here I am again on this topic ;P
I know you are going to kill me because I insist too much on it :D

today I switched from v31 to v32, both of them stored on my uSD as rootfs.

iirc I added in my address book with v31 at least 5 new contacts.

now I've ereased the uSD (mkfs) and installed v32

right after the first boot and waiting for the full load of the contacts from 
my sim I noticed, first of all, every name is now truncated at 12 chars... but 
this is off topic here.

but the other thing on which I'm 100% sure is two of the new contacts I had in 
previous system is now disappeared.
I think they was stored only on the sqlite file and not copied on the sim card 
too.

the other was saved correctly, or almost... I do not know yet if 12chars length 
is only a presentation/cosmetic bug

now I've added a new, single, contact in v32 saving the number from a message 
(the sender of the sms) with a label of 11chars, powered down my gta02, booted 
and now it's correctly there in my address book... no bug this time

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Re: Wrong date/ time in QtMoko v31 and v32

2011-02-03 Thread Alfa21
2011-01-30@19:00 Daniel MT
 Hey there.
 Every time I restart the system the date/ time is reseted to the epoch
 (using v31 and v32 installed on the sd card). While booting I get
 several suspicious messages like
 RTC_RD_Time: invalid argument
 or
 pcf50633-rtc pcf50633-rtc.0: hctosys: unable to read the hardware clock
 
 I attached the output of dmesg at http://pastebin.com/GUKUrCu6
 
 Any hint?, please.


1) hctosys and any access to the rtc in general is not possible while the 
qtmoko's AT daemon is running... stop qpe and kill it! :)

2) it resets to epoch if you remove the main battery and your backup battery is 
died, but if you do not remove the battery and you have a wrong date at reboot 
you just have to set correctly the rtc (1).

btw I do not understand why the qtmoko's at daemon do not allows the access to 
rtc and I think this is an issue.
I tried also to install the debian version of the at daemon, disabling the 
qtmoko's one (also creating symlinks to the other command), but I've serious 
problems with alarm/clock interface in qtmoko...

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Re: some advertising

2011-01-11 Thread Alfa21
2011-01...@19:03 Sylvain Paré

 ps if you don't like/have flash
 http://pare.sylvain.perso.sfr.fr/video/FRvsP2.ogg

(nice .ogg)
ouch... unbelievable! palm boot time is really slow ;P

(aah, I really miss the 3310 era)

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Re: Good evening to everyone

2011-01-11 Thread Alfa21
2011-01...@22:20 Radek Polak

 Its probably not related to setting alsa controls. Is it always reproducible? 
 I had problems that the answer button after click becomes hang call 
 button 
 and you can very easily click twice. It's my plan to fix this somehow in 
 future.

on this topic I suggested a slider control or the two classic distinct buttons 
green/red to answer/hangup or touch gestures.
in this way we can use the phone with less attention or in difficult situations.
(moving, running, driving, meetings, keeping it into the poket...)
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Re: qtmoko, new contacts deleted on reboot

2011-01-11 Thread Alfa21
2011-01...@22:30 Brian Kemp

 In my experience w/ qtmoko v26 (haven't tested v31 yet) your contacts
 aren't deleted - it's that loading contacts from SIM is best measured in
 minutes rather than seconds. It is quite slow.

no, no... that's another bug
I'm saying the new contacts are lost, the others (older ones) are all still 
there!

task I do to reproduce:
- open a received call from an unknown visible number
- push the button save to contacts
- create new? = yes
- usually I receive calls from mobiles, so I select the third icon home+mobi 
(empty)
- write the name of the contact
- press the green arrow to save
- the edit form is closed
- the incoming number is now correctly matched with the saved name
- the contact is in the address book
::reboot:: or ::shutdown+power::
- enter the pin and wait a while
- the address book is loaded with my contacts stored on the sim
- the new contact is not listed

I can see and confirm also with a regular phone the new contact is missing on 
the address book of the sim card.

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qtmoko, new contacts deleted on reboot

2011-01-10 Thread Alfa21
hello,
when I add contacts to my address-book from a received sms or voice call, it's 
highly probable I loose them after a reboot.
that happens not always but in 90% of cases.

my sim card is half free for new contacts.

also, I see if I do not enter my pin code for a while after a new boot, few 
contacts are loaded in read only... maybe from the sqlight file, but the sim 
is ignored.
this kind of contacts are lost if I change the qtmoko installation (pristine 
installation) probably because they are not in the sim too.

also, I can't see anymore the copy contact to the sim menu (or similar 
caption)... but I'm probably confused now.

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Re: bugs QtMoko v31

2011-01-07 Thread Alfa21
2011-01...@18:07 Radek Polak
  - I'm no longer able to connect to wifi and while I try I see console
  messages over the framebuffer graphic screen - gprs does not connect too  
 
 No longer means that in v30 it worked? I dont see any messages and my wifi 
 connects. Maybe we have different setup? Do you use qi or uboot?
 
 I have tested both gprs and wifi and it works, also it works for others. We 
 have to find out what is wrong. Please give as much details as possible.

sorry, with wifi I was out of the covered range due of interferences from a 
cordless phone near the antenna: in other words it's ok!

btw I do see console messages through the framebuffer screen (like white 
terminal line over the graphic gui) every time I enable/disable the wifi 
connection.
maybe it's related to the vt switch?

about the gprs the problem is the multiplexer: when it's enabled it's not 
possible to use the gprs data connection.
when you turn off the multiplexer it's ok but it's highly probable to loose sms 
or calls.

 
  - the long awaited rollback for the power profile when locked is still on
  the to-do list  
 
 I was trying to look at it and at first sight i havent found what is wrong. I 
 have to find the discussion we had last time to refresh my memory.

the culprit is the on lock scenario because all the profiles (general, 
silent, meeting...etc) could support different power management properties 
each, but maybe the saved array does not take in account a third choice other 
than on cable and on battery and so begin the chaos both in the gui and in the 
actual values used in memory.

by now it'd be safe to rollback to the original state and forget about the on 
lock buggy feature.
we can achieve the same feature just configuring ad-hoc different profiles.

the current implementation has too much negative side effects.

 
  - if you put qtmoko on uSD you cannot use the usb-storage
  because /opt/qtmoko/bin/usb-mass-storage-on.sh tries to use (and unmount)
  the whole uSD instead of a single partition and the root with qtmoko is on
  the same device  
 
 Any ideas how to solve this?

I sent to you an early suggested workaround: in the current on script you 
have to specify a single partition instead of the whole uSD
eg: my current partition table is mmcblk0p1=/media/card (fat32 used as usb 
storage), p2=/ (qtmoko root), p3=swap (little extra memory).
in the script I've specified to use only p1 and commented out / modified all 
the mount checks because they works only with a whole device in mind.

I'm not saying this is a nice solution but at least it does not destroy your 
qtmoko/root filesystem! (-dangerous only if you have qtmoko on uSD too)


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bugs QtMoko v31

2011-01-01 Thread Alfa21
2010-12...@16:40 Radek Polak

 - better layout in docked keyboard

you can now remove the folded arrows keys and make the others bigger (home, 
ins, del...)

bugs:
- I'm no longer able to connect to wifi and while I try I see console messages 
over the framebuffer graphic screen
- gprs does not connect too
- the long awaited rollback for the power profile when locked is still on the 
to-do list
- if you put qtmoko on uSD you cannot use the usb-storage because 
/opt/qtmoko/bin/usb-mass-storage-on.sh tries to use (and unmount) the whole uSD 
instead of a single partition and the root with qtmoko is on the same device



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Re: Future of projects.openmoko.org

2010-12-29 Thread Alfa21
2010-12...@22:57 Risto H. Kurppa
 If somebody steps forwared to take the existing information and put all of the
 repositories + downloads online somewhere (read-only) for historic reference,
 I'd be more than happy to provide the respective account/data.
 
 Regards,
        Harald
 --
 - Harald Welte lafo...@gnumonks.org           http://laforge.gnumonks.org/
 
 Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option.
                                                  (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6)
 
hi,
if nobody else, maybe I could put all the whole stuff on a virtual machine in a 
cluster of mine...

if you are interested, can I have a detailed information about how much storage 
is needed, daily transferred data (I+O) and bandwidth used, opened port(s) on 
the ip and the list of software packages needed? (it'll be a debian-stable vm)
I've cpu, but not so much storage available on-line.

do you need an ssh account or application(s)-admin(s) are enough?

let me know!
a.

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Re: [ANN]: GTA04 (Beagleboard inspired Openmoko Upgrade) - Early Adpoter Program

2010-12-22 Thread Alfa21
2010-12...@08:49 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
 The main idea to provide a display is that not everyone
 wants to disassemble the freerunner core module
 (PCB + Display) to easily swap both.

eh! I'm one of them ;P

btw, on the order page I see:
Si4721 (FM transceiver)

...UH?! I can transmit my broadcast? :D
or do you plan to use gta04 like a C.B. radio? ^_^
I think it's a typo

73-51! :)

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Re: [ANN]: GTA04 (Beagleboard inspired Openmoko Upgrade) - Early Adpoter Program

2010-12-22 Thread Alfa21
2010-12...@19:29 Cedric Cellier
 -[ Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 09:58:06AM +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller ]
  The idea behind such chips is to send sound and RDS messages to your
  FM car radio. I.e. have your radio display a caller ID or navigation hints.
 
 The n900 from Nokia does just this.
 Apparently they didn't care if it's allowed or not :)

maybe we can just put a disclaimer and/or disable that feature in software by 
default.
(a patch or option in a file could switch that feature in operative mode)

btw I'm interested in usb host/guest switch mode... will gta04 support that 
like the current gta02 does? usb2 or 1.1?

as a final note I think it could be interesting to put a compatible connector 
or an optional adapter/cable to couple the gta04 with the tablet/keyboard 
options made by always innovating ie: replacing their mid device with the gta04
(or at least keep open the possibility to connect any external bigger display 
and standard keyboard)
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Re: [ANN]: GTA04 (Beagleboard inspired Openmoko Upgrade) - Early Adpoter Program

2010-12-22 Thread Alfa21
2010-12...@14:21 W. B. Kranendonk
 That reminds me... The BeagleBoard can provide up to 1280*1024 or 1280*720 if 
 I recall correctly. Do we have options to channel that power out of the box? 
 Nikolaus already stated that it should be possible to switch LCD's; does that 
 make it possible to redirect that information to a connector that can be 
 hooked up to such a bigger display? While writing I realize I'm asking for 
 something that's not worth the effort ;-)

why not??
If all we need is a piece of copper (w/o logic inside) cable... today we have 
many tv-set with hdmi, dvi, vga ports all around us! we could go in any hotel 
and use that tv-screen and feel like at home with our mobile computing!

no notebook/netbook needed, only our phone, a keyboard and a piece of cable! :)
(for the mouse we have an LCD touchpad hehe)

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Re: Someone is trying to patent Quickwriting

2010-11-16 Thread Alfa21-mobile
I think the concept behind quickwriting is unrelated to the numbers of
zones but the way you use them to write.

http://mrl.nyu.edu/~perlin/experiments/quikwriting/
The basic conceit of Quikwriting is that you make a character by
moving your pen first out of, and then back into, a central resting
done. So drawing a character is sort of like drawing a flower petal.
Below is the very first demo I made for it

btw, in this page I read also:
Then several things happened. Microsoft got interested in it and
licensed it from NYU (thereby helping to support our research!)

so, I think it's not free :P


On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Daniele Ricci daniele.ath...@gmail.com wrote:
 Cross-posting for broadcasting Justus idea.


 On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 00:00, Justus Winter
 4win...@informatik.uni-hamburg.de wrote:
 I am also tempted to mail the person(s?) behind 8pen addressing my
 concerns about his attempt to patent the idea, maybe even challenge his
 position stating that I would not recognize his claim. I believe the
 company is based in France (information is a scarce resource on both
 the 8pen and the companies (3qubits) one, I did a whois query). I'd be
 very interested whether such a patent is enforceable within the EU...


 I already did a few days ago; just a couple of mails... the interest
 part is this:

 === message received from them ===
 Dear Daniele,

 In fact we did not know about the Quickwriting method that you have
 pointed out to us. It strikes us as an incredible coincidence.

 We're not interested in engaging into a legal debate, but in the
 development of an efficient alternative to conventional keyboards on
 small devices. However, intellectual property law does apply, and
 copying the 8pen does violate it within the scope set by the patent
 previously referred to.

 We're not dealing personally with issues that are in conflict with our
 patent, or that violate it, but we have instead passed them on to the
 lawyers who have filed it.

 === my reply 
 Dear Daniele,
 In fact we did not know about the Quickwriting method that you have
 pointed out to us. It strikes us as an incredible coincidence.
 We're not interested in engaging into a legal debate, but in the development
 of an efficient alternative to conventional keyboards on small devices.

 Me neither I am interested in a legal debate, I just wanted to let you
 know that your idea is not original, thus it can't be applied for
 patenting. Anyway we'll wait for your patent approval.

 However, intellectual property law does apply, and copying the 8pen does
 violate it within the scope set by the patent previously referred to.
 We're not dealing personally with issues that are in conflict with our
 patent, or that violate it, but we have instead passed them on to the
 lawyers who have filed it.

 Of course i won't name my program 8pen for Linux.
 I guess editing Quickwriting to use 4 zones instead of 9 would violate
 your patent too? If Quickwriting was easily configurable to change the
 number of zones, how could this be handled?

 = end =

 Would anybody care to join me on this one? We could create a message
 or a message template and ask everyone send this message to the person
 behind the 8pen (crowdsourcing seems to be the catchy phrase for this
 approach...).

 Cheers,
 Justus


 Sure, i'm with you 110% :-)

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Re: Someone is trying to patent Quickwriting

2010-11-16 Thread Alfa21-mobile
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hall mad...@li.org wrote:
 Not necessarily.  There can be dual licensing, like in MySQP, which
 would allow for a not-for-profit or open source licensing.

you are right, but they are not saying it's for free neither.

I tried to contact that email address for nyu licensing but it's not
an active mailbox :S
(bounced email)

also tried to email perlin but no response.

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Re: Backup batteries installed

2010-11-05 Thread Alfa21
2010-11...@21:23 Benjamin Deering

 I have had the capacitors installed for a few days now and they are 
 still working well.  I left the FR with a dead battery overnight and 
 when I plugged it in in the following day, it had the correct time.
 
 The digikey part number is: 728-1037-1-ND and the manufacturer's number 
 (seiko) is: XH414H-II06E.  I would recommend looking around on the site 
 to see if you can find one with the correct bracket.
 
 Ben

I like very much your solution! (I think it's also more environment friendly)
can we have a similar super-cap on the upcoming gta04?

btw, dead battery overnight could be enough energy for the rtc... can you 
test how long you keep the correct time removing the main battery?
because we must do that to change the sim or uSD... and I'd like to know how 
fast... ;)
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Re: New Input Method for mobile phones with a touchscreen

2010-11-02 Thread Alfa21-mobile
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Ole Carlsen o...@carlsen-web.dk wrote:
 Den 02-11-2010 16:43, Rashid skrev:
 Thats great. Just choose the group of letters you want to use and then 
 choose the letter by drawing a circle. Have a look at it.

 http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/10/11/01/1515236/8pen-Reinvents-the-Keyboard-For-Mobile-Devices

 Isn't that some of the same idea with qwo?
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5qDqE1DYl0


when I was on shr I loved qwo too, also because it'd be used like a
numpad 3x3 (+1 special for the zero)
it's the thing I miss most since I'm on qtmoko... but now I keep a
trimmed toothpick in my batteryslot ;)
https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/qwo/
http://mrl.nyu.edu/~perlin/demos/quikwriting.html

btw I think this one is an improved version of the qwo for openmoko

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Re: backup battery and case screws questions

2010-10-25 Thread Alfa21-mobile
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote:
 Is there any backup battery? I was sure there was none by design - my FR
 lost RTC since i bought it, even when I removed battery for just a few
 seconds.


yes, look here:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:Gta02a5_pcba_ps.JPG

on the right, near the middle, the little round metallic shape
soldered on the pcb is the battery.

It's a known hardware bug and afaik replacing it will dry the new one
in short time too.
I'm not aware about a fix to that bug.

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Re: [GTA04] When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing

2010-10-25 Thread Alfa21
2010-10...@21:09 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller

 The mould for the Power button is less expensive: approx. 1500 EUR.
 
 I.e. 10 buttons @ 150 EUR each :)

mmh...
why not include the button(s) in the same mould?
it could be a shape like a C= attached to the main shape by a little plastic

for the light of our leds we could make grids and holes... or we could also do 
an all transparent case (I'd love to see trough to view the electronic inside)

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Re: [GTA04] When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing

2010-10-25 Thread Alfa21
2010-10...@00:46 Alfa21

 for the light of our leds we could make grids and holes... or we could also 
 do an all transparent case (I'd love to see trough to view the electronic 
 inside)
 

ah and this is also to underline that our open project has nothing to hide! ;)

(and one day maybe someone could also add a solar cell modding on the back side)


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Re: backup battery and case screws questions

2010-10-23 Thread Alfa21
2010-10...@20:44 Benjamin Deering
 Has anyone done this replacement before?  any gotchas?

no, but I think it's not too difficult if you have a little experience with DIY.
I've this (known) problem too but I'm afraid if I replace the battery it'll die 
as the old one... not sure... but I think I can live with that and so I never 
remove the main battery.

 
 Also,as anyone found a source for replacement torx case screws?

I think it's easy to find in any good hardware shop (not computer-hardware eh! 
the one that sells you screwdrivers, electric drills  Co.)

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Re: [GTA04] When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing

2010-10-22 Thread Alfa21
2010-10...@08:24 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller

 So if we reduce precision of the case production process, the buttons become
 larger and finally, the phone is more a brick than a handheld phone :)
 
 Personally, I am in favour of high-end high-quality design (like the iPhone)
 even if it costs money.

I agree... but is 3d printing etc. just for prototypes or do you plan to use 
that also for the final product (with big volumes mass production)?

I think 3d printing is ok only for the first case, to try also different shapes 
before but finalized to build the final and more precise mould.

also I think a classic mould process is expensive just for small scales but for 
a mass production it's cheaper (on a single unit) and _faster_ than 3d print.
and also it's more appealing to the eye of the final customer to see a smoth 
and higrade product.

btw I think this is the really last step in the production process.

by now imho it's more adequate to replace the current circuit board from our 
gta0x and eventually drill holes if you plan to add some different connector to 
the pcb (maybe a hdmi?) ;)

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Re: [GTA04] When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing

2010-10-21 Thread Alfa21
2010-10...@07:36 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller

 Here is the photo of a bare board as it came from the PCB factory:

eh! your baby is growing up!
nice nice nice! :)
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Re: [GTA04] When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing

2010-10-21 Thread Alfa21
2010-10...@19:06 David Lanzendörfer

 True, but they're available from many more suppliers than moko plastics! 
 Shame 
 there isn't a transreflective version though...
 I today recieved the plastic parts for a RepRap.
 So we can soon start to design and produce the case for new OpenMokos.
 Only barrier: We need an extruder and some kilogram of granule first... -_-
 
 lg leviathan

you should try 3d print like this:
http://www.printo3d.com/
(and many others sellers!)

made in ABS which is a good plastic and up to 0.01 inches resolution
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acrylonitrile_butadiene_styrene

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Re: qtmoko v28

2010-10-20 Thread Alfa21-mobile
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote:
 Hi,
 there is now new v28 release of qtmoko ready for downloading flashing and
 testing. You can download it from our sourceforge page under Experimental
 folder [1].


please,

- review and possibly include the patched version of the script for
usb mass storage I sent some day ago.

- roll back the power config patch about locked scenario to the
previous state because it's bugged and not stable.
(and no, it's not only a cosmetic bug)

- please don't switch back and forth on odd/even numbers to indicate a
stable or experimental release, or add a tag to the version number to
do that, eg: v28exp or v28u VS v28 otherwise it's difficult to
understand if it's ok for everyday use.

btw, thank you all for the work! :-)

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Re: qtmoko v28

2010-10-20 Thread Alfa21-mobile
 It's under Experimental folder, so i was hoping that it's quite clear that
 it's experimental ;-).

 Although it's experimental it should be ready for daily use for many people, i
 am using it myself as daily phone.

 I still consider v26 to be stable - and it's as default download on
 sourceforge.

mmh... ;-)
so why is v28 called experimental? (not a real question eh!)

ok but when it's installed on a moko there is not that folder to
remember us it's nature ;P

and maybe it's easier for all of us here in list to immediately
distinguish that while discussing about qtmoko if we have such a
standard in versioning (like shr too) to put different emphasis on
certain kind of bugs accordingly.

just my 2c. :)
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Re: let's launch a FR into space

2010-10-18 Thread Alfa21
2010-10...@16:15 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller

  Has anyone ever tried video streaming from the FR?  
 
 The first questions is how to connect a camera.


I think you'd connect a plain usb webcam ;)

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Re: soldering tutorial, was: Re: [Shr-User] uSD hosed, on every unstable.

2010-10-15 Thread Alfa21
2010-10...@15:58 jeremy jozwik

 yah thats what i was wondering, frying components. but it is surely a
 common technique, this is the first ive seen with a hot plate. most
 use a hot air gun.

hot air is used to unsolder components for replacement.
hot plate imho is fake
if you want to do a clean and standard work follow this video about 0402 size:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66GV4OuShzI

it's almost the same I tried to explain before, but here it is more clear and 
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Re: soldering tutorial, was: Re: [Shr-User] uSD hosed, on every unstable.

2010-10-14 Thread Alfa21
2010-10...@16:13 jeremy jozwik

 shit... i should just get some of this!
 FFWD to 9 min
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uov0SPHKcnk

no, never seen that method and I believe it's a fake because I think, yes, the 
components are mechanically in place... but surely all fried! x_x

btw, what about two sided boards?? XD

 thats a great link. now i keep going back and forth between buy a new
 phone or fix my beloved moko

imho you should do a try, first
it's difficult but not impossible!
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soldering tutorial, was: Re: [Shr-User] uSD hosed, on every unstable.

2010-10-13 Thread Alfa21

 make model micro soldering tutorials? i would really really like to
 fix this if i can.  

I think the size should be the same of the one needed for the buzz fix...
about soldering eee... good luck! :P
I made my buzz fix and it was a pain in the a**hole!

[0) check your pcb and verify you still have the traces where you'll put the 
new resistor because maybe you ripped the metal out]

1) remove the board from all the plastic case
2) firmly fix it to a solid table with an adhesive tape
3) do not drink alcohol and keep calm ;)
4) use the sharpest newer soldering tool, 25W-30W
5) put a _little_ of alloy on the little squares of the pcb
6) put the resistor in place and keep it _gently_ pushing down with a small 
tool, like the point of a pin or similar (gently, otherwise you make it jump 
away!)
7) take your iron and pick up some but _little_ fresh alloy on the tip and then 
melt it on the first side of the resistor
8) do the other side of the resistor
9) verify that your resistor is firmly in place and you haven't leaked the 
alloy around and check any short-circuit

the size is really tiny, so good luck and don't panic!
you can put your resistor in any direction, it hasn't +/- polarity.

be quick with the iron on your components otherwise you'll fry them!
no more than 2-3 sec.
you can cool down the components and do another try little later.

I suggest you to use the eutectic alloy because it's easier to use on this hard 
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Re: soldering tutorial, was: Re: [Shr-User] uSD hosed, on every unstable.

2010-10-13 Thread Alfa21
ooh sorry!
I forgot an important point:

 6) put the resistor in place and keep it _gently_ pushing down with a small 
 tool, like the point of a pin or similar (gently, otherwise you make it jump 
 away!)


7-) put some flux on the sides of your resistor

 7) take your iron and pick up some but _little_ fresh alloy on the tip and 
 then melt it on the first side of the resistor


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Re: QTMoko predictive keyboard weirdness

2010-10-12 Thread Alfa21
2010-10...@18:19 Iain Nicol

 Daniel Weatherill wrote, a long time ago:
  I have a few questions about QTMoko predictive keyboard. I know
  prediction was disabled by default a couple of versions ago, I
  understand this as most people are not english speakers.
  
  However, some of us ARE english speakers and found the predictive
  keyboard very good [. . . ] Can someone help me with this?
 
 On the off change you're still interested, I found the setting last
 night by reading through the source. :-).  I'm running a clean install
 of QtMoko 26.
 
 ssh onto your Freerunner and then type:
 cd /home/root/Settings/Trolltech
 cp /opt/qtmoko/etc/default/Trolltech/PredictiveKeyboard.conf .
 echo unpredictive=0  PredictiveKeyboard.conf
 
 Cheers,
 Iain


I think you can do the same also through the GUI in qtmoko:
settings - language
[your language] - use for input - checked

but it seems not deactivable on the default language (the check box is locked 
on true) and if you select a secondary language the selection is switched back 
on false when you leave the dialog window.

btw only my docked keyboard is predictable, but suggestions are showed only 
on the first half of the bar on the top of it.

ok, I realized only now you are talking about the predictive keyboard and I 
thought only the docked one to have this feature :P sorry, I need to go to 
sleep! (dreaming for a bed)

but the above one seems to be a bug in lang. config gui, is it?

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Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

2010-10-10 Thread Alfa21
  2. Use already created MiniBook, just add gsm/3g board inside. IMHO,
  more realistic idea and definitely require less efforts.  
 
 Certainly, space permitting. There may be enough space for navigation sensors 
 too. They are easier to add than the 3G module, and have a similarly low 
 requirement for case mods.

imho 3g phone module have a certain priority over all the rest.
I think we should do things gradually, step by step, just to be concrete.

hey, I'm not saying the rest is crap!
just do one thing and do it well, to start moving wheels :)


  And one more note: attaching anything via external 40pin port, will
  make device impossible to attach to Smartbook.  
 
 The MiniBook can be connected as normal after removing the module. We could 
 design the module so that it can connect everything via USB, in which case 
 the 
 module could dock to one of the USB connections available in the SmartBook.

so, why we don't just add the µ-usb port and use that both to connect that 
module, charge the phone, use it as flashdrive etc..?
also you'd need one and only the usb port on the module so you'll be able to 
connect directly or through one of the others ports on the smartbook.

and the barrel 5v connector is removable, imho.
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Re: New Phone Project (MiniMoko) : Which functionalities ?

2010-10-09 Thread Alfa21
2010-10...@10:52 Timo Jyrinki
 2010/10/6 giacomo 'giotti' mariani:
  Looks like it miss USB connectivity and I need SSH strongly!  
 
 Well SSH over Bluetooth personal area network works just fine, but
 indeed I'd also like USB port for charging and connecting other
 devices (host mode)


please keep in mind that there is an European directive about that:

http://phandroid.com/2009/06/30/microusb-becomes-european-standard-in-2010/

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2009/02/european_commission_pushing_microusb_standard_for_mobile_phone_chargers-2/



I intended we _MUST_ include the microusb for any new mobile phone if it has to 
be sold in EU.

and if we do not strictly must, it's a clever solution because:
- you do not have to sell also the ad-hoc charger with the new hardware.
- an user can easily find a compatible charging source when not at home (eg. 
friends, colleagues, any computer, car's usb socket...)


btw microusb is quite thin, so maybe we can put it side by side to the 40pin 
connector using both sides of the MID's pcb.

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Re: Sandisk 16GB SDHC not mountable

2010-10-05 Thread Alfa21-mobile
On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Gennady Kupava g...@bsdmn.com wrote:
 and so begins the might fall of the freerunner sd card reader...

 I think possible something just terrible wrong in kernel driver. From my
 point of view it is worth to investigate, may be we can get x4 uSD
 speedup.


I do not know, but maybe it's related too?
http://bugs.qtmoko.org/view.php?id=179
(please do not consider my replies there because they are OT)

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Re: We can have Help from Always Innovating !

2010-10-05 Thread Alfa21
2010-10...@10:56 Thomas HOCEDEZ
[...]
 Tada !  Everythnig is now open to find a way to mix Openmoko V4 project 
 with the base of the A.I.'s MID.
 As I said earlier, their specs are online, and the GTA04 project is 
 progressing fast, nut with a litlle help on hardware it could be faster !
[...]


ooh wow!
this topic switched to the cool side! *_*
they made an U-turn!

maybe I'll buy a new gadget in the near future... ;)

you ruuulez guys! \m/,

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Re: Sandisk 16GB SDHC not mountable

2010-10-03 Thread Alfa21
2010-10...@11:16 Christian Rüb

  cat plaintextfile.txt  /dev/mmcblk0p1
  less -f /dev/mmcblk0p1
 
 I could not read it back, but using /dev/mmcblk0 it showed up somewhere near 
 the beginning (it was cat to /dev/mmcblk0p1 though)

mmh... maybe less is not installed by default, sorry :P
ok, near the beginning maybe after the 512 stuff of mbr and the partition table 
if p1 is at the beginning of your device, it's ok and regular thing.
(you'd imagine your device as a long tape with one thing after each other)

strange you are not able to read the p1 but only the whole device

 
  you should be able to read your contents of the original input file.
  if you fail to less it on the FR, try the second command on your PC.
 
 showed up at partition start

right

 I saw the contents only once and about at the same place when catting it to 
 /dev/mmcblk0p1 (Freerunner)
 Once at the beginning and once about where 1 partitions starts (PC).

right, once at the beginning of the whole device and one where was the 
beginning of the old p1
(data remains there until overwritten with new data, usually it's never cleared)

 same result :( (Freerunner)
 On my PC FAT32 and ext3 work ...

also with fat32 directly on whole device? (no partition table)

 Note that I booted using Qi and system is on NAND (kernel 2.6.29)

sorry but I do not know if 2-4-2 or default change anything, I use qi too but 
the plain one and with 8GB uSD.

 Now even fdisk does not find the card anymore. As from the wiki I thought the 
 card would work :(

me too.. I was about to buying a 16GB one! :P
btw, maybe you should clear your uSD...

dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=512 count=2048

WARNING: THIS COMMAND IS REALLY DESTRUCTIVE!!!
(this will totally blank the first 1MB on your device, so mbr, partitions, some 
data Co.)
double check the of= value before return!!!

try to build all your tables on a real PC instead of FR

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Re: Sandisk 16GB SDHC not mountable

2010-10-02 Thread Alfa21
2010-10...@20:04 Christian Rüb

 I partitioned my 16GB SDHC (class 2) card

have you tried to use it as raw storage? (no filesystem)

cat plaintextfile.txt  /dev/mmcblk0p1
less -f /dev/mmcblk0p1

you should be able to read your contents of the original input file.
if you fail to less it on the FR, try the second command on your PC.

try the same directly on /dev/mmcblk0 but this will destroy all your data on 
uSD (partition table Co.)

have you tried with a whole different fs, like fat32?

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Re: usb-mass-storage, data corruption, QtMoko v26

2010-09-29 Thread Alfa21-mobile
 btw I'm not sure if this is acceptable by OSes others than linux, because in 
 this way we expose a storage without a partition table.
 (I'll check this on a windows computer asap)

ok, sorry... I was away from any kind of windows pc :P
now I can confirm this fix is ok and my phone is viewed as a regular
single partition usb mass storage (atleast in win XP and Linux)

so the fix is:

!!!- I assume /dev/mmcblk0p1 being the fat32 partition used as storage

/opt/qtmoko/bin/usb-mass-storage-on.sh
[begin]

#!/bin/sh
DEV_NAME=/dev/mmcblk0p1
ifdown usb0
# sync all buffers
sync ; echo 3  /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
umount ${DEV_NAME}
rmmod g_ether
modprobe g_file_storage file=${DEV_NAME} stall=0 removable=y

[End.Of.File]

in my /etc/fstab I've this line:
/dev/mmcblk0p1 /media/card auto  defaults   0 0

and
/dev/mmcblk0p2  / autodefaults,errors=remount-ro,noatime 0 1
instead of the rootfs one. (yes, my qtmoko is on the second
partition of uSD and I've qi bootloader)
[I've also a swap on /dev/mmcblk0p3 but it's another topic]


and in my /home/root/Documents/ I have a symlink like:
card - /media/card/
so I can see its contents in qtmoko documents (remember the Rescan
System option in menu!!)


- with this modification you can start the mass storage (USB mass
storage on) an your /media/card data will be visible as an usb stick.
- it will be unmounted in qtmoko untill you select USB mass storage
off in qtmoko.
- your qtmoko will not corrupt the uSD.
- you'll be able to use your phone as always and you can also forget
to switch the storage off (but meanwhile you cannot do ssh or ip
connection via usb cable or read your /media/card inside qtmoko)



I suggest to Radek (and all the community in general) to review this
fix and possibly include it in the next release of qtmoko or asap.
(data corruption is not a nice thing)
if something is unclear, here I am! ;)


kind regards, a.




On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 3:31 AM, Alfa21 wrote:
 2010-09...@18:13 Alfa21-mobile
 and now a question from me:
 when the usb mass storage mode is enabled, all the used partitions is
 in read only mode..
 I see qtmoko exports also the rootfs and imho it's not good because if
 I forget to switch off the usb storage ... it's bad for the whole
 system.

 the question is: how I can configure qtmoko to use only a specific
 partition? eg the one mounted on /media/card only?



 about g_file_storage...
 we have this DOGMA: an usb host will not expect to see any changes in the 
 storage other than the ones it makes.

 I found a critical (if the rootfs is on uSD) bug concerning the use of 
 g_file_storage with the scripts in qtmokoV26!!

 - the # mount checking if, in /opt/qtmoko/bin/usb-mass-storage-on.sh is too 
 weak because:
 1) by default /etc/fstab in qtmoko contains rootfs for / and any root 
 partition on the uSD is not found by that grep
 2) any swap partition is not found by that grep

 so we could corrupt our storage if it remains mounted inside the freerunner 
 and both exported with usb!


 a fix could be:
 - in storage-on script
 1) modify the DEV_NAME with the name of the specific partition we want to 
 export
 2) umount it and really verify it's not mounted
 3) modprobe g_file_storage (and we should add removable=y to the modprobe 
 line)


 btw I'm not sure if this is acceptable by OSes others than linux, because in 
 this way we expose a storage without a partition table.
 (I'll check this on a windows computer asap)
 ...else we could make a partition table inside the exported partition and use 
 kpartx in the freerunner to read the storage (yes, it's like a matryoshka of 
 partitions)

 bye, a.


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Re: linmodem

2010-09-29 Thread Alfa21
2010-09...@21:19 Ed Kapitein


 With this software you can hook up two computers using the soundcards.
 Is Something simmilar possible wit 2 FR 's? 

theoretically speaking yes... but I do not know how much audio bandwidth is 
available on a real gsm call.
and you also have to keep in count the lost of signal and retransmission of the 
data.
and also gsm has a compressed audio.

...maybe you'll be able to transmit at 2400 baud rate average :P
but yes, it's possible ;)

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Re: qtmoko v27 (+ answering usability)

2010-09-27 Thread Alfa21
2010-09...@17:32 Thomas HOCEDEZ

 and go to the dial interface

I can confirm this.




ooh! great, you remembered to me an annoying usability issue about the answer 
screen:

when I'm in a hurry or I'm walking sometimes I push the answer button twice due 
to the latency of the gui just because I've an vibrating touch... and actually 
I drop the incoming call :P

is it possible to split the button in 2 so it's not the same area active on the 
screen to do both the functions?

...or just reduce the size of the button and move it from left to right 
accordingly to its active function of the moment?

...or substitute the button with a slide? (in this way I also do not answer 
while I'm grabbing it out of my poket)

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Re: new QtMoko Theme (AsthroMod)

2010-09-27 Thread Alfa21
2010-09...@17:41 Thomas HOCEDEZ

  I just released a preversion of a new Theme for QtMoko : AsthroMod
 
 Some pics :
 http://openmoko-fr.org/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=15128


generally speaking it's nice... but:
- I think you should not use the same icon both for lockscreen and for 
deletenumber.

- I'd not use an icon too similar to the logo usually intended for wifi, near 
the gsm operator (I'd prefer the square antenna you used for the signal 
indicator)

- why don't remove bars form battery and signal indicators, accordingly to the 
toroidals (-I LOVE THEM)?
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freerunner=netbook?

2010-09-27 Thread Alfa21
HEEEY community-ziens! read this:

http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.libdlo/92

umh... wasn't displaylink only for usb=2.0 and openmoko has only usb1.1??



if not ok, maybe I'm going crazy :D :D

http://www.everythingusb.com/nanovision-mimo-um-710-s-usb-monitor-16825.html
or
http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/samsung-syncmaster-u70-another-tiny-lcd-display/

and I already have a poket usb keyboard! :D
or I could use just one of those docking stations to have a FR-based desktop 
:DDD

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Re: freerunner=netbook?

2010-09-27 Thread Alfa21
 friends on our FR!!!
 Or do serious stuff :-)

I _do_ consider showing how cool is a free libre open reality a serious stuff ;)


 ehy, I've already a full LXDE environment on my FR with AbiWord installed ;)
 [I'm not joking here]
 I'm using SHR on my FR. Mainly because I'm developing it, and so I'm testing 
 it in dayli use.

I _do_ use my FR daily since august 2008 :)
it's my only phone and I consider it the best investment I've ever done...

our fr is like a diesel engine...
we had few features at the beginning, but it's always growing
definitely it's not annoying :D there are a lot of projects and innovative 
ideas around it, building the reality of tomorrow


 but a bigger display would be ...great! :DDD
 Yes. I've already written an email to some collegues to discuss my 
 oPad-idea ;-D

keep us informed ;) maybe you should consider the previously proposed [gta04] 
hw?
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Re: QtMoko v26

2010-09-20 Thread Alfa21
2010-09...@19:14 Alex Samorukov

 I now compiled atd w/o this 
 define to see if it will work correctly. If it will - then this will be 
 fixed in the next release.

please take a look at:
http://bugs.qtmoko.org/view.php?id=144
also

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Re: qtmoko v26 bluetooth headset

2010-09-16 Thread Alfa21
2010-09...@08:22 Christ van Willegen

   which is the default for most headsets.  
 But not for the car. It generates a PIN to use for that pairing.

I was able to pair my FR with my toyota and during the process I entered my pin 
on the dialog showed by the FR.

I also was able to pair my FR with a garmin navigator.


have you tried both directions for the pairing process? eg: initiate the 
process on the car searching your FR or vice versa ?

btw I'm able to access my phone-book and last dialed numbers and also get the 
battery and signal status of the FR on the paired device :)

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Re: qtmoko v26 bluetooth headset

2010-09-16 Thread Alfa21
2010-09...@00:02 Jim Morris

 Jim Morris wrote:
 
  Also keep in mind that if you've got an ordinary (non-stereo,
  non-A2DP) headset, it's not supposed to work with mplayer and
  such. See [2] for the reference.
  
  Ok that makes sense, I do have another A2DP headset, I'll see if that works 
  differently.
 
 Holy crap it worked! I paired with an a2dp headset and it asked to install 
 the bluez audio via apt, 
 then after a restart plays though the headset, Radek you are a genius ;)


hey! how I can verify my bt device supports a2dp? :S

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Re: QtMoko v26

2010-09-16 Thread Alfa21
2010-09...@10:52 Ori Pessach

 The only network connectivity I have with this phone is WiFi. I can't get
 GPS  lock indoors, and I probably can't get a WiFi signal outdoors. 

gennady was saying just to save your maps (using any kind of internet 
connection, eg your wifi) before your trip outdoor... so you'll see your fixed 
point on your cached maps.

once you have your maps saved on your moko you do not need any kind of 
connection, just your gps fix in open air.

gps does not get a fix in indoor by gps design, and it's not a bug.

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Re: Broken AUX :-(

2010-09-16 Thread Alfa21
2010-09...@13:57 jeremy jozwik

 On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 1:50 PM, W. B. Kranendonk
 wankelwan...@yahoo.com wrote:
  Don't tell me you guys dropped your Freerunner with the USB-cable connected 
  while you were still sleepy?!
 
 he he, nope. i reflashed on day and BAM!
 im 50-50 whether or not to replace the moko or get a n900


hahahaha!
HAHAHAHAHA!! X'D


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Re: QtMoko v26

2010-09-14 Thread Alfa21
2010-09...@11:37 Radek Polak

 On battery: suspend 5minutes
 When locked: suspend in 20 seconds


hi radek and hi to all the community in general :)
on this topic I'd like to open a debate...

I think the suspend setting in on cable (I'm personally using it as 
disabled timeout here) should have priority over the suspend setting in 
locked because if you are on ssh over usb (or usb mass storage) and put (or 
keep) your FR in locked mode you'll loose the connection.

this also because I usually have the on battery and when locked both with 
battery saving schemes as you (I am always locking screen too!) and I forget to 
unlock my FR when I plug the usb cable in it.

what do you think?
is it possible to change the priorities like:
CABLE over LOCK over BATTERY ?

do you think this use case is reasonable/common?

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Re: QtMoko v26 power priorities debate

2010-09-14 Thread Alfa21
2010-09...@20:39 Radek Polak

 Alfa21 wrote:
 
  what do you think?
  is it possible to change the priorities like:
  CABLE over LOCK over BATTERY ?
  
  do you think this use case is reasonable/common?
 
 Yes it's reasonable, but the way how it works was easiest to implement ;-) I 
 will try to take a look if i can fix it so that it works as you suggest - or 
 maybe some else want to send patch?
 
 Regards
 
 Radek


mhm... IIRC that was a workaround done because there was a bug (in an old 
qtmoko's monolithic kernel / module) which prevented to tell apart battery or 
cable status (now fixed also without this workaround)

the alternatives I see are:

1) (maybe really the easiest to implement) imho we could do a rollback to the 
previous state before that hack and take the habit of pressing the powerbttn 
shortly to immediately activate the sleep if desired (or wait for the suspend 
timeout if set) as it's possible also when the screen is locked

2) fix the priority as said before, so if we have the cable connected (and now 
i see it's correctly detected, can you confirm?) we follow the full triplet 
(dimm/disp.off/suspend) of the on cable whit priority over all the triplet of 
the locked state

3) find a way to check if we have a connection open and in this case ignore the 
suspend timeout. this could be interesting also when we are talking about a 
wifi connection or a car bluetooth system connection (if the FR goes in suspend 
we loose the ability to make outgoing calls from the system because we can't 
wake it by bluetooth) ...more or less the same way FR does not go in suspend 
during a phone call :P


I would choose the 1+3 solution... with 1 ready there and 3 implementable in a 
more future release.

what do you think? the debate is still open to the whole community! hehe ;)

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Re: gprs bug QtMoko v26

2010-09-10 Thread Alfa21-mobile
 You can try to experiment with AT log or disable multiplexing, but i dont know
 anything better for now.

 Regards

 Radek


hi radek,
i tried rebooting with mux and deepsleep both disabled (neocontrol)
and checked the at log (temporarily enabled)... all was ok and i can
use arora with my gprs connection.

i reverted back mux and deepsleep, rebooted with on/on and my gprs is
still ok! :)

i do not understand what was wrong before... but now all should be the
same again, instead my gprs works a lot well :D

btw, i can confirm sometimes the first attempt to start the gprs blink
a while but fails... just try again and it's ok.

kind regards, a.

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qtmoko apt sources.list configuration

2010-09-10 Thread Alfa21-mobile
hi
i think it's not a good thing to hardcode the german apt mirror for
the standard configuration in the mass qtmoko distribution:
- almost every user will not configure the sources.list
- it's not always the best choice, eg if you are not in europe
- we could weigh down the .de mirrors (ok, maybe one day everyone in
the world will have a FR with qtmoko ;D )

what about apt-spy?
http://www.debianadmin.com/check-debian-archive-mirrors-bandwidth-using-apt-spy.html

imho we should automatically run it before apt-update in R(apt)or...
what do you think about this?

bye

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