Re: [Gta04-owner] New Phoronix article on Gta04

2012-07-04 Thread Alishams Hassam
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 11:41 PM, Bob Ham r...@settrans.net wrote:
 I wouldn't worry too much about Phoronix.  Their reporting is always
 sub-par.  And moveover, people know their reporting is sub-par.  They
 seem to be like a tabloid newspaper: they're not so concerned about the
 accuracy of their reporting so long as you read the site.  They'll quite
 happily publish deliberately inflammatory articles to boost their
 readership.

I agree that certainly there articles that are shit. However they also
have many good articles and many examples of exemplary reporting. In
this case, I would say the article is sub-par, however it is just as
much our fault as Phoronix's. My goal with collecting these 'good
reasons' is that when future articles are published, the writer won't
have to dig through the mailing lists and bug developers for good
points. Perhaps the writer tried and those are the best that could be
found. Perhaps the writer didn't do enough research; however with the
very low amount of press coverage the GTA04 has received, we need to
make it easier for those who want to write about it.

If Phoronix publishes another article bashing the GTA04 after we have
made our case easy to represent, I will agree with your conclusion ;)

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New Phoronix article on Gta04

2012-07-03 Thread Alishams Hassam
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=MTEzMjI If you
missed it. Sadly he doesn't make much constructive criticism; he
bashes the specs but it's not as if much can be done about that now.
He does mention some good things such as where it is manufactured,
being able to run debian/shr/qtmoko... and in his defense, I can't
think of too many more good points.

Maybe we can put up a 'feature list' of good points that reporters
like him can use when writing articles on the GTA04. Please add them
to 
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Marketing_GTA04#Good_reasons_to_purchase_a_GTA04
or reply to this thread and I will add them to the page at the end of
the week. To get the ball rolling I have:

* Run qtmoko, SHR, Debian fully supported
* Made in Germany under proper working conditions.

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Re: upgrade my freerunner

2012-06-06 Thread Alishams Hassam
On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Jason Cawood openm...@jasoncawood.comwrote:

 Does anyone have any info on where I could purchase upgrades for my
 freerunner?


I'm unsure what you mean. What type of upgrades are you looking for?


 I've been trying to use it as my daily, but have found
 the response time is dreadfully slow.

 Understandable, however this is usually related to which 'distro' you're
using. I have found QTmoko to be the fastest and SHR close behind. The
older version of AoF (Android) is also reasonably fast. I've was using the
FR as a daily phone for over three years. Which distro are you currently
on?
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Re: [dfu-util] who use it for flashing FR?

2012-05-08 Thread Alishams Hassam
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 8:37 AM, francesco.dev...@mailoo.org wrote:

 **

 Of course I'm using dfu-util, are there other tools for flashing the Neo??
 (:

 Though I mostly use dfu-util, I've found it has problems when flashing
ubifs. I prefer to boot into an sdcard image and use nandwrite. MUCH
faster, however it does require a functional sd card distro.
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Re: question about installing android on FR

2012-01-18 Thread Alishams Hassam
From what I know, Android on the FR requires QI. Unless you have a specific
reason not to use it, just go with that. Note that it has to be the QI from
the AoF people as it changes the partition layout.

On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 8:36 PM, a dehqan dehqa...@gmail.com wrote:

 In The name Of Allah

 hello
 have set some enviroments in uboot that is on NAND:
  setenv mtdparts
 mtdparts=physmap-flash:-(nor)\;neo1973-nand:0x0004(u-boot),0x0004(u-boot_env),0x0080(kernel),0x000a(splash),0x0004(factory),0x0400(system),0x0b6a(userdata)


 and this is result of mtdparts command  http://pastebin.com/2hgCwDgz

 but when want to sudo dfu-util -a userdata -R -D userdata.img
 dfu says No such Alternate Setting: userdata

 how to fix it ?

 Regards dehqan


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Re: ubifs/NAND problem?

2012-01-15 Thread Alishams Hassam
For the record, I've never had ubifs work by flashing an image using
dfu-util. I did get it to work using nandwrite though! Basically boot into
your working uSD install and put your ubifs image on there. Then use
nandwrite to flash it into nand (it's also much faster than dfu-util). See
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Ubifs
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Fwd: [Gta04-owner] Status GTA04 GroupTour

2011-12-29 Thread Alishams Hassam
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 2:50 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com
 wrote:

 snip

Well, we don't have a real mass market device and I think
 we should not even pretend to have one, in this phase.
 Because we are then compared to the 100 EUR Huawei
 Android/UMTS units where one has to suspect that the
 workers in China are being ripped off...

 I recently bought a used Motorola XT720 on Ebay for $80 CAD. That's a
price I can afford. I'm not saying you should drop prices or use bad
factories, but I personally need far more time to save up 499 Euros.


 What do you think should we do to make this group
 tour a success?

 * extend the subscription timeframe until we reach
  100%?


Please! The people who want it earlier will be disappointed, but seeing as
how the development model is so different, I'm sure they'll understand
(though ask them, which what you're doing I suppose).


 * ask for/collect donations to extend the early bird rebates?
   Some sort of sponsorship by community members for
   community members who can't afford a new GTA04
   immediately?


I love this idea, but with only 56 units ordered, I'm not going to hold my
breath.


 * have more resellers or buying groups to order batches
   of 10 units?

* talk more about the benefits and special features one
   can only find in a GTA04 and nowhere else?


Always good, but takes work. Someone in reply to a recent Phoronix article
suggested marketing them as devices that can be fully encrypted for the
politician or activist who needs it most. I hate to say it but people have
a real hard-on for Android. Making sure the AoF people have a board to hack
on could go a long way and you could reasonably call it an investment.

* subsidize GTA04 boards by combining them with a
   UMTS contract?


Possibly but very limited to certain areas, right? Maybe pick the top four
geekiest locations to this... What kind of person knows about this sort of
thing?


 * offer to pay only part of the price by end of the subscription
   time frame so that we can already buy the expensive
   and difficult to source components, but postpone
   production individually until the remaining payments
   arrive? (i.e. pay 200 EUR until 10th Feb and the remainder
   until May)


Big yes! I firmly set my vote for this option above all others. I can
afford one eventually, but even May might be too soon for me.


 More ideas are welcome! But please keep in mind
 that we can't develop something completely new until
 February and components cost what they cost...

 The simpler the idea the better!


You spoke about marketing in another post. This is crucial. Geeks should be
jumping for a phone that ships Debian + LXDE. I haven't seen one post on
Debian User, or the LXDE lists! These guys are the one's who'll be happy to
pay a premium. Let's blast all Foss lists that are even mildly relevant,
LUGS all have mailing lists, hackspace lists, where-ever makers hang out,
and this is just off the top of my head. Let's also ask GTA02 owners
(18,000 of them right?), who have one collecting dust to put them up on
Ebay or buy a GTA04. Kickstarter or a similar service like others
mentioned, is also a good idea. Even if it's just for specific areas, any
funding I'm sure will be put to good use.

I wish I had known earlier no one was doing marketing. Not that I really
have much time myself, but since no one else is stepping up to the plate
I'll see what I can conjure up. I'll start a marketing thread in the next
few days, please though if someone else wants to take the initiative you
have my blessing and thanks!


 And, there may be ideas which are too big for a single
 community member, but may become feasible if we all
 work together, contributing many small pieces.

 Curious about your ideas,
 Nikolaus

 [1]:
 http://www.giga.de/macnews/newsticker/ios-gegen-android-42-millionen-ios-26-millionen-android-aktivierungen-am-weihnachtstag-256890
 [2]:
 http://www.macrumors.com/2011/12/27/holiday-gifts-drive-new-ios-device-activations-sharply-higher/
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For the record, I have three hurdles:

A) The price is too high for me. 499 Euros = 659.692059 Canadian dollars. I
pay less in rent. At $400 it's a strertch, but I could maybe pull it off by
February/March. It's just a matter of time before I get one, but it won't
be soon.

B) GSM in my area is very expensive. The only providers that have a fair
price where I live are UMTS IV (aka AWS). With the GSM networks, I'm
looking at 3 times more than the AWS networks. I have to factor in this
cost as well or relegate the GTA04 to a PDA.

C) I don't want to risk breaking my beloved FR. Section 4.9 of the manual
should highlight my concern. When I get my hands on a GTA04, I'll probably
do the switch at my local hack space under the supervision of a hardware
geek. FYI, I've had my FR since near launch and it's been sole phone even
when #1024 was making me miss calls. To go from an FR to a GTA04 would
provide 

Re: Openmoko Community Survey 2011 – Results

2011-12-29 Thread Alishams Hassam
A status update to the community list every now and then would actually be
really awesome and go a long way into reminding me to try it. Even just a
few months ago, the latest version of Froyo was really slow and crashed
more than was acceptable.

On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 4:50 AM, Niels Heyvaert
nielsheyva...@hotmail.comwrote:

  Why is AoF is not even mentioned in the distro list is a mystery to me.

 Believe we should pollute this list more often with pure AoF related
 topics to keep reminding people it also exists ;-)

 Niels

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[Marketing] Ideas / Plan

2011-12-29 Thread Alishams Hassam
Hello All,

Firstly note that I am not a marketing expert by any means. I only wish to
throw ideas out there and implement what I have time for. If there are any
marketing experts on the list (heck, if you're even just interested),
please speak up! The only experience you really need is the ability to
write in your native language. I'm only familiar with English sources but
anything will work. Let's coordinate efforts on the wiki, I'm sure Openmoko
won't mind us piggybacking off their wiki ;p
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Marketing_GTA04

Things to mention:

1. The GTA04 *requires* an FR / NEO1974.
This should serve as a request to get people who have these collecting
dust, selling them online. Maybe this should be made more explicit?

2. The GTA04 has vastly improved on every area of the FR.

3. The GTA04 is made in a proper factory in the EU, and of quality parts,
in small runs - hence the price tag.
This will appeal to those of us who want things done right, not cheap.

4. Though there are non-free chunks, harm has been reduced as much as
possible.
Talking about how the wifi firmware has been isolated so it cannot
interfere with the O/S is a great example.

Areas to Attack:

1. Online and print magazines, news websites:

We need to get the word out about the GTA04. I find myself agreeing with
the claim that he GTA04 isn't well known about. This appeared on Slashdot
early this month
http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/11/12/01/1910213/openmokos-freerunner-rises-from-the-ashesNo
mention of a pre-order. There was an article in late July on the Salon
blog: http://blog.slyon.de/2011/07/26/openmoko-gta04-is-getting-reality/
http://blog.slyon.de/2011/07/26/openmoko-gta04-is-getting-reality/%20
Phornix http://www.phoronix.com/ also did an
articlehttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=MTAzNDEon
Openmoko just a few days ago, but only one line about the GTA04 :
People are not excited, so let's make some noise! There are many other tech
news sites out there. Ars Technica http://arstechnica.com/comes to mind,
Lifehacker http://lifehacker.com/ and Make http://makezine.com/ would
get a kick out of the board switching procedure, Wired is an older popular
magazine, Phoronix http://www.phoronix.com/  I'm sure will do one focused
on the GTA04 and 2600 http://www.2600.com/for the geeks who like print
(someone please write a cool article for those guys - I promise you they'll
publish it)! Jeez, I almost forgot to mention http://lwn.net/

Traditionally a press release is sent out. I've never written one before
and don't particularly want to start with this. Is there anyone who has
written one before?

2. Mailing lists of FOSS projects:

This area cannot be done with a press release blast. Well it can, but I
don't think the subscribers will appreciate spam. Ideally each of us can
write a post about the GTA04 on any other FOSS lists we are on. I'll get
the ball rolling with a post to the Debian user list soon.The other big
relevant list to hit is the LXDE related mailing lists: lxde-list 
lxde-l...@lists.sourceforge.net, lubuntu-desktop 
lubuntu-desk...@lists.launchpad.net Plasma active could be another one,
assuming it runs on the hardware, as with gnome-shell
gnome-shell-l...@gnome.org

Let's get a list of mailings lists going on a wiki page.

3. Free Geeks

Free Geek's are organizations dedicated to ethical recycling. They are all
independently run so let's gather a list of each one's main mailing list
and start a discussion. Starting points include how replacing a board is
much more ecological than full new cell phone. The challenges with such an
approach, and perhaps how FOSS helps to ensure old devices see much more
support than their counterparts. I'll be updating the wiki with some
adresses as I collect them. For now, Free Geek Vancouver:
fg-gene...@lists.freegeekvancouver.org

4. Hack Spaces

Hackers love linux and tinkering! We can organize with Hack Spaces to help
less hardware oriented users like myself with supervision/teaching of the
board swap. I'll also be adding them to the wiki, please help collect
addresses if you're too shy to post. Vancouver Hack Space:
vhs-gene...@lists.hackspace.ca

5. LUGS

Linux User Groups are *not* dead. They're less active than they used to be,
however at Linux Con North America, the president of the CLUG (Calgary
LUG), gave a speech and is trying to reinvigorate things. This is usually
full of people who have disposable income and love to have cool geeky
things. The VanLUG address van...@robomod.net

6. Kickstarter / similar services

Perhaps funding for a case for the phones can come form these?

Phew, that's all I can think of for now. I'll be updating
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Marketing_GTA04 as time permits. Please reply
to the thread, submit ideas, constructive criticism, or just show you're
listening!
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Marketing_GTA04
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Re: Navit for QT Moko

2011-12-19 Thread Alishams Hassam
Hehe, I don't think I've given a thank you to either of them either. It's
always hard in FOSS because you don't want to forget anyone. I think the
SHR folk and kernel hackers deserve lots of thanks as well! The folks who
have created themes for both have always made me love the phone more, also
all the authors of the various apps created for both stacks. Without each
of these groups the phone would be so much less. As nice as a fast stable
phone is, it's not as impressive without applications to make use of it and
a pretty UI; and no point to having a pretty UI and plentiful applications
if the phone isn't stable or working properly. Almost forgot to extend
thanks to Openmoko and all it's employees for taking the lead in this area
and producing this kind of hardware when no one else was willing.

I'm strapped for cash too, but whenever looking at other phones, I'm still
missing features that the FR has (except GTA04 of course, will be placing
my order as soon as I can budget for it- god damn it's expensive). As you
said, you'll have to pry it form my cold dead hands! I *love* being able to
run almost all 30,000+ apps in the debian repos if I need to; I *love* USB
host mode; I *love* that it runs Debian; I *love* that a group is working
on a completely free GSM firmware (does any other phone have anyone working
on that?); I *love* that we have schematics and that people have found good
mods to improve performance / fix bugs (I wish I had the soldering skills
to apply it, but I don't want to mess it up by lifting a pad or spilling
solder- those points are tiny); and tons more. There have been many people
bashing the phone, especially at launch, but most every complaint I've
heard has been resolved (at-least for me).

Don't get me wrong, it would be great if our community was as large as
Android or IOS, however we've come a long way with our limited
resources/numbers. I only wish I was able to contribute more myself.

On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Brian bn...@rochester.rr.com wrote:

 On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 18:18:43 -0500
 Brian bn...@rochester.rr.com wrote:

  On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 23:51:26 +
  Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote:
  brevity
   Hi,
   if all goes right i will have new Freerunner donated to me by Christ
   van Willegen.

 I'm such an IDIOT, I forogt to thank our benefactor! Thank you Christ
 Van Willigen!!!

 Sincerly,

 Brian

   I will try to make navit working with GPS out of the
   box and do v38 when it's done.
  
   Regards
  
   Radek
 
  You sir, deserve the highest praise for your efforts to keep a forlorn
  hardware platform from perpetual stagnation. I'm pretty tapped right
  now for cash and you would have to pry my Neo-FR from my dead cold
  hands before I gave it up but I would have gifted you a case or a new
  one if I could have.
 
  Happy Holidays,
 
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Re: [QtMoko] new theme: MokoFaen

2011-12-15 Thread Alishams Hassam
That works great! Dropped Ubuntu-R.ttf into /opt/qtmoko/lib/fonts and
changed the font line to Ubuntu and I have some extra sleekness.

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:01 PM, alonivtsan alonivt...@gmail.com wrote:

 The configuration file for changing fonts is
 /opt/qtmoko/etc/default/Trolltech/qpe.conf
 You can also change the font size in this file. Restarting Qt Extended
 is required in order to view changes.

 Alon.

 On Wed, 2011-12-14 at 16:18 +, Radek Polak wrote:
  On Wednesday 14 December 2011 12:22:54 Alishams Hassam wrote:
 
   Have you figured out how to change the font? The current one looks
 nice,
   but I would love to see the Ubuntu font on qtmoko.
 
  IIRC QtMoko uses fonts from /opt/qtmoko/etc/fonts. You can replace Dejavu
  fonts with any ttf fonts - i have tried android fonts and it worked. I
 dont
  know if there is any option for choosing fonts (e.g. in config file).
 
  Regards
 
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Re: [QtMoko] new theme: MokoFaen

2011-12-15 Thread Alishams Hassam
I don't think that's exclusive to v26. I have a FR on v37 that this was
installed on with the package. Is upward/downward arrow on context menu
button (next to the four verticle dots) unshaded? And the back button not
complete either?

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:47 PM, alonivtsan alonivt...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you Radek for packaging this theme. Unfortunately, the theme
 doesn't work properly on v26 of QtMoko. The battery icon does not show
 up on the homescreen but everything else appears to work. Is there any
 way to fix this? Faenqomod works fine in v26.

 Alon.

 On Wed, 2011-12-14 at 15:09 +, Radek Polak wrote:
  On Tuesday 13 December 2011 14:23:14 Joif wrote:
 
   Waiting for an enough brave man who can package it and upload it in
 qtmoko
   apps page (:
 
  Hi,
  the theme is beautiful and also packaged now [1]. Thanks a lot for your
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Re: [QtMoko] new theme: MokoFaen

2011-12-14 Thread Alishams Hassam
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 5:50 AM, Guilhem Bonnefille 
guilhem.bonnefi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Joif,

 2011/12/12 Joif fdvj...@vodafone.it:
  There is a new theme that I worked on: MokoFaen.

 Thanks for doing such job.


Yes, thanks! Tested it out and it's very sexy!

Have you figured out how to change the font? The current one looks nice,
but I would love to see the Ubuntu font on qtmoko.
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Re: QtMoko v37 for GTA02

2011-12-13 Thread Alishams Hassam
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote:

 snip
 Any other ideas for cool qt apps that you would like on QtMoko?


You've opened the flood gates! Personally I'm dying for a native Quassel
client. Launching an xserver for it is annoying when it is a QT
application.
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Re: QtMoko v36 - working?

2011-10-31 Thread Alishams Hassam
I have it running from nand fine. I upgraded from v35 using the v36.deb

On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 6:03 AM, Philip Rhoades p...@pricom.com.au wrote:

 Thomas,



 On 2011-10-31 21:01, Thomas HOCEDEZ wrote:

 Joif,

 I used:

 dfu-util -a kernel -R -D uImage-v35.bin
 dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D qtmoko-debian-v35.ubi
 dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D qi-v35.udfu

 I keep all my data on the SD card so it isn't touched by a re-install (I
 just need to symlink things).

 Thanks,

 Phil.


 QtMoko v36 is NOT flashable. You can only use it (for now) from uSD
 card. (Unzip it  roxx !)



 Right - when is it likely to be flashable?

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Re: QtMoko v36 - working?

2011-10-31 Thread Alishams Hassam
Install qtmoko v35, wget/upload the v36 deb[1] on your FR, on the phone do
dpkg -i qtmoko_36-1_armel.deb

[1]
http://sourceforge.net/projects/qtmoko/files/Experimental/qtmoko_36-1_armel.deb/download

On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Philip Rhoades p...@pricom.com.au wrote:

 Alishams,

 How do you do that without using dfu-util exactly?

 Thanks,

 Phil.



 On 2011-11-01 04:32, Alishams Hassam wrote:

 I have it running from nand fine. I upgraded from v35 using the
 v36.deb

 On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 6:03 AM, Philip Rhoades  wrote:

  Thomas,

 On 2011-10-31 21:01, Thomas HOCEDEZ wrote:

  Joif,

 I used:

 dfu-util -a kernel -R -D uImage-v35.bin
 dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D qtmoko-debian-v35.ubi
 dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D qi-v35.udfu

 I keep all my data on the SD card so it isnt touched by a

 re-install (I just need to symlink things).

 Thanks,

 Phil.


 QtMoko v36 is NOT flashable. You can only use it (for now) from
 uSD
 card. (Unzip it  roxx !)


 Right - when is it likely to be flashable?

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Re: [QTmoko] v35 usb host keyboard

2011-09-12 Thread Alishams Hassam
QWS_KEYBOARD doesn't appear to make a difference for me. I think the OP
means that when you use a USB keyboard, instead of getting input to QTmoko,
the input is read by tty. The commands are outputted literally ontop of
qtopia, untill it repaints the screen. Any clues on how to disable the tty
reading the keyboard? I'm guessing once that's done, then maybe QWS_KEYBOARD
will let us use it within qtopia?

On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote:

 On Tuesday 30 August 2011 11:40:57 Aditya Gandhi wrote:

  Hi I am using a keyboard with usb host mode, but when I type it start
  like a overlaying terminal on already present screen... It does not
  use it as an alternative input method to onscreen keyboard! What
  should I do in this case!

 I have never tried it but you can play with QWS_KEYBOARD environment
 option.
 You can use google for more info.

 Regards

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[QTmoko] Quassel2go

2011-09-02 Thread Alishams Hassam
Anyone feel up to packaging this[1] for qtmoko. The regular quassel client
is available in Debian but of course requires an xserver and isn't finger
friendly.

[1] http://qt-apps.org/content/show.php/Quassel2Go?content=136828
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Re: [Om2008.9] screen locking application?

2011-07-28 Thread Alishams Hassam
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote:


 Hello,

 In [Om2008.9] one locks the screen (and unlocks it) by pressing the
 AUX button. It seems that mine is failing due to bad contacts.
 Pressing the AUX let appear the lock, but releasing AUX acts as
 unlocking again.

 Is there any software to lock the screen. I only need protect the
 FR in my pocket so it will not dial (...) by its own, i.e. I dont
 need any unlock by PIN code functionality, maybe a small application
 in fullscreen which exits after touching 4-5 points with the finger
 in the correct order, ignoring anything else.

 2008.9 is *very* dated. Try qtmoko or SHR- both offer a lock, but by
default it's a simple slider- I've never had that accidentally fail. I
recall a program for SHR that did the lock a different way, tracing a Z or
something I don't know if it's still available.
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Re: Some newbee questions about Qtmoko, navit, Vodafone GPRS and battery capacity

2011-07-17 Thread Alishams Hassam
install navit with apt-get, it will show up in QX. then ensure the
option for the gps module is checked and you're good to go.

On 7/17/11, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote:
 Sebastian Reinhardt s...@lmv-hartmannsdorf.de writes:
 1. I installed navit form the zip- file, according to the wiki.

 I'm not a qtmoko user but I know about navit. Can you give me a link to
 the binary you used? Does it have source code too?

 3. If I switch off all radio, exccept the gsm, the battery is unloaded
 during night (8-9h). Is this OK or is the battery broken (due to long
 storage time at Handheld Linux)?

 If the phone is not in suspend this will definitely happen.

 -Timo

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Re: [QtMoko] Suggestion for an external mailing list

2011-07-13 Thread Alishams Hassam
badly isn't a word, it's poorly ;p but only grammar- I like the opinion.
Especially now that Radak plans on using FSO, posts are only going to get
more relevant to the community at large. The community of QTmoko is small
enough now that just one general mailing list is enough. If it ever gets the
size of SHR, then I would agree.

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 9:30 AM, matteo sanvy sanvym...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Giotti :D
 I reply to confirm that I get this email 1 hour ago, so now it seems to
 work...
 Anyway, I think that we should keep this mailing list, because today
 this is the most followed by the whole community, and to see that this
 project is so well developed can make understand that not all is dead.
 This is my (badly expressed) opinion :)

 Best Regards

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Re: [qtmoko] How to invoke speed dial ?

2011-06-21 Thread Alishams Hassam
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 7:54 PM, phifmr phi...@gmail.com wrote:

 [snip]
 ,
 | To invoke a 1-digit speed dial, press and hold for a few seconds the
 | key for that digit while on the home screen. To invoke a 2-digit speed
 | dial, press (and release) the first key, then hold the second key.
 `


Question : where to press and hold the key for that digit ?(perhaps
 this help is for another phone...with keyboard ?)

 I haven't done this since the first couple of Qtopia releases for the FR!
But if it is all still working, you go to the dialer (the first icon on the
bottom left at the home screen) and hold the key there. I remember it
working a couple years back so good luck! (I would test for you, but calling
on my plan is very expensive).
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Re: free freerunner

2011-05-28 Thread Alishams Hassam
My girlfriend, a graphic designer, will use it to theme qtmoko as she really
likes KDE.

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 4:41 AM, f f sengechungch...@googlemail.com wrote:

 hi all,

 I have a spare openmoko neo freerunner (gta02) that's just sitting in it's
 box. I'd be glad to give it to somebody who would actually do something with
 it. So if you need/ want a freerunner, drop me a line.
 (Contact me for details. Also, I'm based in Germany)

 cheerio

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Re: 2.5 vs 3.5 jack

2011-02-16 Thread Alishams Hassam
On February 16, 2011 12:21:55 PM Dmitry Shalnoff wrote:
 Hi list,
 
 is anybody here from GTA04 developers? if it's not late, would be great
 to hear some case concerning 2.5 jack retention. That's only thing I
 found objectionable in the current tech. specification. is it possible
 to change it in final PCB version to 3.5 standard socket to make it
 compatible with most widespread headphones standard?
 
 I think that major of participants and users could be agree with me in
 this aspect.
 

I would, but that's only because it is also standard where I live. In other 
parts of the world, 2.5 is standard- or so I'm told :)

 Dmitry.
 
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Re: Linux 2.6.38?

2011-01-20 Thread Alishams Hassam
On Wednesday 19 January 2011 20:34:25 Paul Wise wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Are any of the 2.6.37 patches merged into mainline 2.6.38-rc1? Is it too
 late for them to be merged or are they mostly fixes that could be
 submitted for mainline inclusion outside the (now closed) merge window?

You may want to look at some threads on openmoko-ker...@lists.openmoko.org 

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Re: Good evening to everyone

2010-12-30 Thread Alishams Hassam
On Thursday 30 December 2010 16:05:03 Hrabosh wrote:
 
 1/ USB Host is not working in v30, v31 (in v26 is). Dmesg says unable
 to enumerate device. I was trying to connect USB flash drive, BT dongle
 and USBtoRS232 converter (With PL2??something chip) - all these were
 working on v26.
 
not sure, make sure you set usb to host most in dev tools, if that's not it 
maybe go to log level 8 and get some more detailed info about what's wrong? 
You can do this in the kernel parameters in /boot/append or in QI just press 
the power button after the second flash of the aux button 

 
 3/ Where am I to copy MP3 files to make MediaPlayer see them? I copied
 them to /media/card/Documents/audio/mpeg
 and /home/root/Documents/audio/mpeg but still didn't see in MP. QMplayer
 was able to find them on first scan, but only if there were no further
 directories in /home/root/Documents/audio/mpeg. Is there a way how to
 tell these programs where are my MP3s stored?


Go to software packages and download the mp3 codec, then execute the file that 
shows up in applications. Suddenly media player will read mp3s in ~/Documents 
(qtmokos ~/ which is /home/root not the debian /root)
 
 4/ Does anyone know how to set FreeRunner to play music over bluetooth
 audio stream? AFAIR it is called A2DP. Radio in my car is able to play
 such stream so I'd like to use it.
 

You can add debian unstabled repos and see if there is anything there, I would 
be very surprised if not...

 5/ I'm going to replace 2.5 audio socket in FR by 3.5 socket - so I
 could connect my headphones directly to FR. Did anyone try so?
 

Please document if you do this! I've lost the second earphones I got for this 
(kindly given to me by my friend Brolin) and it's a real pain to find 2.5mm 
headphones here.


 7/ Can I use MP3 files as ringtones?
 

Yes, see my re to 3

 8/ Can I install ipk packages to QtMoko?
 

Not the ones built for SHR qtmokos got every debian package so something 
should do what you're looking for.

 9/ People I call with are complaining about bad sound quality. Did it
 happen to any of you?
 

not yet...

 
 Thanks for your time,
 
 Zbynek,
 Brno, Czech Republic
 
 
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Re: Qtmoko repos

2010-12-15 Thread Alishams Hassam
On Wednesday 15 December 2010 05:32:28 Michele Brocco wrote:
 On 12/15/10, Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote:
  Dnia 2010-12-14, wto o godzinie 19:31 -0600, Kosa pisze:
  He there! First of all THANK YOU for working on qtMoko. It works great.
  
  Next, I wonder how dangerous it might be to change to squeeze repos. I'm
  not thinkig about an apt-get dist-upgrade,
  
I do this all the time and yes it's sometimes a PITA to use plain debian apps 
with the finger but it all usually installs and runs perfect :D 
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Re: using multiple window systems - selecting at boot

2010-05-15 Thread Alishams Hassam
On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 17:36 +1200, Robin Paulson wrote:
 i'm investigating changing to debian as the os for my fr. it appears i
 can use either qtmoko, or the shr suite of apps on top of this. if i
 install both, how would i go about choosing which environment (Qt/X)
 boots at startup? on my desktop i'd probably see if grub could do it,
 but as there is no grub i'm a bit stuck here.
 
 any suggestions?
 
I know you can use the qtmoko (more accurately qtopia) dialer and tools
in debian, at least the versions that were ported to X though I don't
know of debs so you'll have to compile- but for freerunner purposes,
qtmoko should be considered it's own distro (it runs in a framebuffer
and X apps don't integrate well, though they are usable). The best way
to do this would be to use the Qi bootloader. Have one partition with
the latest qtmoko, another partition with plain debian and install the
shr packages (already in repo I believe). Use the qi-bootmenu if you
don't have the reflexes to hit AUX at the right time :)
 cheers
 
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Re: [QtMoko] Bug 1024

2010-04-28 Thread Alishams Hassam
On Wed, 2010-04-28 at 23:11 +0200, Gand' wrote:
 really ?
 because always doesn't seem to work, as my battery life doesn't
 exceed a day with QTmoko, whereas it lasts more or less 3 days with
 SHR ...
 if it's not the #1024, what else ?
 -- 
   Gand'
Have you been using wifi? I know for sure on older versions of qtmoko if
I enable wifi after suspend-resume it is disconnected but still shows as
online in the GUI. I noticed my battery life would heavily suffer. Two
thing you could try assuming this is still a problem. After using wifi
and doing a suspend-resume, make sure you go into the internet menu
and disable the wifi. If the battery is still shit, leave wifi off after
a restart and see if battery life improves. 


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Re: qtmoko v21

2010-04-22 Thread Alishams Hassam
On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 11:57 +0200, Korosu Itai wrote:
...
 , but I've tried some calls and the problem is the audio volume. I can
 hear the other phone (low, but I can hear it) but the other person
 (the one not using the neo) almost can't hear me. Is there anyway to
 change volume in calls?

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_Freerunner_audio_subsystem#Empirical_Data_for_Mic_Settings
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Re: QTMoko - Diffuculty trying to mount sd as USB

2010-04-14 Thread Alishams Hassam
On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 18:49 -0500, swoody wrote:
 Well, I've been trying my darnedest to get the sd card in my phone to
 mount as a USB drive. I have been Googling and trying to use this guide
 from the wiki to no avail:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Using_the_Neo_as_an_USB_Mass_storage_device
 
 When I try to mount the /media/card I get an error that it's not found.
 Fair enough, I run 'fdisk -l' and the only information listed is my
 internal drive. I was able to see that the device is recognized by my
 computer:
 
 [ 1959.576070] usb 4-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
 address 3
 [ 1959.791253] usb 4-2: configuration #1 chosen from 2 choices
 [ 1959.800462] eth2: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-:00:1d.2-2, CDC
 Ethernet Device, 00:1f:11:01:13:f6
 
 
 The next step, I then run 'rmmod g_ether', that module isn't existent. So
 through dmesg I find the driver which is active, and I tried disabling
 that: rmmod cdc_ether This is the only command which didn't give me an
 error message.
 
 On the last command (modprobe g_file_storage file=/dev/mmcblk0 stall=0), I
 get the output:
 FATAL: Error inserting g_file_storage
 (/lib/modules/2.6.32-21-generic/kernel/drivers/usb/gadget/g_file_storage.ko):
 Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
 After checking dmesg again, I now see:
 [ 1830.381547] g_file_storage gadget-lun0: unable to open backing file:
 /dev/mmcblk0
 
 
 I'm nearly at my wits end here. I don't have access to a card reader, and
 I tried setting up 3 different phones (non-FR's) as USB drives, but each
 one has it's own unique issue. So I'm left hoping someone out there may be
 able to help me out with this. I would really appreciate any ideas you all
 may have. Thanks in advance!
 
 - Woody
 
 
It looks like a kernel/module problem from the name of the kernel I'll
assume you compiled yourself. Did you copy new modules over when you
did? I have never had luck with 2.6.32 and mass storage mode. Try it
with 2.6.29. other tips, if you have a swap partition on SD make sure
it's off. Make sure your distro is on NAND and not on SD (I think there
is a way to make it work from SD but so far I've only used
g_file_storage from a distro on nand). Failing that, try older versions
of qtmoko kernel (assuming you're on qtmoko and remember to use the
appropriate modules). 

Assuming all that fails, use latest shr-testing, I know for a fact it
works on this. If it doesn't work with shr-testing you're doing
something wrong.


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Re: tangoGPS community development, patches (was: tangoGPS magnify patch)

2010-04-13 Thread Alishams Hassam
On Tue, 2010-04-13 at 11:43 +0200, arne anka wrote:
 you are definitely off topic.
 this list is neither to insult others at your pleasure nor to discuss  
 issues with your project or ego.
 
 those entirely tangogps related mails are filling up my account and have  
 nothing to do with openmoko.
 
 please, stop abusing other projects infrastructure for your personal needs.
 
No, you're at least one thread too early. This discussion has been
(partly) about setting up that kind of infrastructure for tangogps. It
was originally a program for Openmoko phones and its business has always
been discussed here (afaik). In fact, only relatively recently has there
been much use outside the freerunner community. I would agree that it
needs its own infrastructure or if it's forked that fork should- but
right not this thread is appropriate here. 

And Yorick, I wholeheartedly agree with your analysis. 


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Re: [QTMOKO] Dead UI

2010-03-20 Thread Alishams Hassam
On Sat, 2010-03-20 at 13:11 +0100, -= Apertum =- wrote:
 
 * Risto H. Kurppa wrote, Il 19/03/2010 22:13:
  Hi there!
 
  qtmoko v19, debug -kernel, qi, freerunner
 
  Most of the things were fine until noon today, when something
  happened. No, I didn't install anything, didn't upgrade, update,
  change any config, nothing. Something just happened.
 
  qtmoko starts normally
  When I touch the touch screen, the screen light comes on, but no menu
  or icon reacts.
  AUX  POWER work as expected.
 
  

 Exactly same problem here, with a little variation: i can restart Qt
 with the menu (all it's freeze but the touch works for the upperbutton).
 Sometimes the UI works, but it disconnet totally from GSM, and i need to
 restart QT. After 2 or 3 soft restart, it works. It's not a good
 workaround but for me it's the only method to use my FR with QTmoko (v19
 nodebug) as my everyday phone (with some trouble).
 
That's really weird, I had this same issue using an older kernel but I
can't for the life of me remember which one :( but it vanished with the
v18 kernel. You could give the v18 kernel a try (it's 2.6.32 with
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Re: What to do with FreeRunner / Neo 1973?

2010-03-07 Thread Alishams Hassam
On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 16:20 -0800, Brolin Empey wrote:
 Jay Vaughan wrote:
 I'd really like to
  catch up with you guys that are getting some value out of these
  devices and what you're doing with them .. so how about telling us old-
  timers just waking up what the current 'nicest OS' for the Freerunner
  is?
 
 I vote for QtMoko! :)
 
Overall Qtmoko has my vote too. Doesn't crash and all of debian. V18 has
never missed an sms and is the fastest yet, but X applications are
unusable. Most of the time it's desktop linux on my phone + pretty phone
ui. SHR if you want very finger friendly and smartphone centric type
apps, www.opkg.org has a nice collection. Ofcourse plain Debian if you
literally want the desktop linux experience on your phone (though I
heared E/Illume was working but can't verify atm). Android is good for
cool factor, I don't like it much (I like X applications) and haven't
used it in weeks, but it impresses a certain crowd of geek :) The
project also pulls in updates pushed out by google. The faux appstore is
interesting, nothing particulary great IMO. One of my favourite ones was
a distro with a gui written in QT, very pretty and based on FSO but I
can't remember the name now. 

Whatever you decide to try, it's going to be easier to have a bootmenu.
On your GTA01 i hope you have a debug board or someway to modify the
bootloader if you throw on QI. Some fellow released a graphical bootmenu
for it a few weeks back and it makes distro selecting very convienient.
I've learned to hate U-boot. 

As for uses: my favourite thing to do with the FR- I can be out and
about, someone will mention a good movie/song and I'll download the
torrent and scp it to my box at home (which starts the download). Orrery
has been a personal favourite, nothing like looking at the stars and
actually knowing the constellations! There was an app in opkg.org that
listend for a secret sms and would lockout the phone (or something to
that effect, haven't used SHR in a bit). Navit is great for directions
(on versions where inputing works) with gps, but just having a map of
the city when I need it is fine. I haven't done this since the first few
months debian was available, but scanning with nmap (well zenmap cause I
don't have a hw keyboard) on the go was pretty fantastic. 

That should keep you entertained for a while ;)


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Re: My surplus FreeRunner score!

2010-03-05 Thread Alishams Hassam
On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 11:22 -0800, Brolin Empey wrote:
 Hello FreeRunners,
 
 I just bought the following for 150 USD + UPS Ground shipping to 
 Washington from SDG Systems in Pennsylvania:
 
 * 5x GTA02A6 (4 GSM 850, 1 GSM 900) with buzzfix
 * 5x earphones
 * 5x travel cases
 * 5x batteries
 * 2x or 3x chargers
 
 No MicroSD cards, though, but those are cheap.
 
 The catch?  The FreeRunners were returned by customers because the 
 microphones do not work.  I still think 30 USD each for handheld 
 (Debian) Linux computers is an excellent deal, though:  how else can I 
 buy a handheld Linux computer with so much functionality for only 30 
 USD?  I can still try using a wired or wireless (Bluetooth) headset 
 instead of the handset too.
 
 Brolin
 
Brolin my hero! My headphones broke two summers ago in Kenya (I lost my
last set ~2 months ago and my charger broke 1.5 + years ago- i've been
missing fast charging. Care to part with a charger + earphone? I'm more
than happy to reimburse you ;) 


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Re: My surplus FreeRunner score!

2010-03-05 Thread Alishams Hassam
On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 08:20 -0800, Alishams Hassam wrote:
 On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 11:22 -0800, Brolin Empey wrote:
  Hello FreeRunners,
  
  I just bought the following for 150 USD + UPS Ground shipping to 
  Washington from SDG Systems in Pennsylvania:
  
  * 5x GTA02A6 (4 GSM 850, 1 GSM 900) with buzzfix
  * 5x earphones
  * 5x travel cases
  * 5x batteries
  * 2x or 3x chargers
  
  No MicroSD cards, though, but those are cheap.
  
  The catch?  The FreeRunners were returned by customers because the 
  microphones do not work.  I still think 30 USD each for handheld 
  (Debian) Linux computers is an excellent deal, though:  how else can I 
  buy a handheld Linux computer with so much functionality for only 30 
  USD?  I can still try using a wired or wireless (Bluetooth) headset 
  instead of the handset too.
  
  Brolin
  
 Brolin my hero! My headphones broke two summers ago in Kenya (I lost my
 last set ~2 months ago and my charger broke 1.5 + years ago- i've been
 missing fast charging. Care to part with a charger + earphone? I'm more
 than happy to reimburse you ;) 
 
 
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rant damnit! that was meant to be personal! damn the decision on
reply-to on this list!
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Re: [all] pdfviewer alternatives to epdfviewer?

2010-03-03 Thread Alishams Hassam
Depends on your distro but I've found fbreader- debian (i think shr as
well) and eyepiece (when it works)- qtmoko quite good.  

On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 14:51 +0100, Davide Scaini wrote:
 The only pdfviewer i can find for fr is edfviewer, but it's not really
 usable...
 do you know any existing alternative?
 thanks for your help!
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FOSS GSM baseband

2010-02-19 Thread Alishams Hassam
yay, someone is working on free gsm baseband software! It is called
OsmocomBB and is found here: http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/ They're not
targeting the freerunner but some Calypso that is different from ours.
They claim different calypsos should be easy enough to port to. My
geek bone is tingling.


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Re: Advance planning for SHR-Stable release party :)

2010-02-12 Thread Alishams Hassam
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 17:57 +0530, rakshat hooja wrote:
 I am not very sure when SHR Stable will be released (I assume in the
 next 2 months) but it would be great if we could plan small SHR stable
 release parties across the world. Basically these would be SHR and
 other OM distro users (and interested friends and family) getting
 together for a drink and some food (and accompanieng geek talk/ distro
 wars/ show off my customizations are cooler than yours etc) to
 celebrate the SHR Stable release.
 
 I would be willing to host a party in New Delhi, India 
 
 Also if there is enough interest we could start a wiki page to
 coordinate this.
 
 Rakshat
 
Depending when it is, I may be able to organize one in Vancouver BC,
though I don't know if there are more than a handful of FR users in the
metro region. 


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Re: [qtmoko] New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner

2010-02-12 Thread Alishams Hassam
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 13:39 +0100, Patryk Benderz wrote:
 [cut]
  This is an installer-image which will flash to nand, but you can flash to
  nand using dfu-util by flashing the files 'kernel.img' (== uImage) and
  'rootfs.img' (== jffs2).
  
  Ghislain
 And which of files is kernel with nodebug?
 
It's kernel.img


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Re: QtMoko v19

2010-02-05 Thread Alishams Hassam
On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 16:17 +0200, Margo wrote:
 If I use the nodebug kernel I can't boot with qi (I use qi installed
 by qtmoko v16d installer). It just vibrates once and flashes the red
 led but doesn't start to boot. But it does boot if I boot it with
 u-boot from NOR.
 
 But with the debug kernel it boots with qi.
Can confirm this with qi as well. qtmoko installed on uSD. Anyone know
how can I see the error/provide a log?


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Re: [Debian] installed on uSD ext3 using uboot

2010-01-20 Thread Alishams Hassam
On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 15:31 -0800, Joif wrote:
 I'm no more sure that there is a problem with QtMoko and the uSD, maybe the
 problem is only the SD. Now I'm unable to boot debian from SD receiving the
 error posted in the previus post and I don't know why. :(
If there is no specific reason to use u-boot, give QI a shot and see
what happens. I remember having odd errors like this with older versions
of u-boot, are you booting from the one in NOR? Also what kernel are you
using? 


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RE: [QTEXTENDED] Very loud noise on (some) incoming calls

2008-12-01 Thread Alishams Hassam

I have this issue every so often as well. The weird thing is when the loud 
noise happens, the speaker phone is active as well (I didn't activate it, it 
answers with the speaker). 

Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:25:52 +1300
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: community@lists.openmoko.org
Subject: Re: [QTEXTENDED] Very loud noise on (some) incoming calls

Hi,

I had this issue only once : during a call I wanted to toggle some of the 
options (headset or headphone I don't remember) on. Had this loud noise 
and...rebooted. Never tried again.

cheers


2008/12/2 Olivier Migeot [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Warren Baird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm also using QTE 4.4.2, and I get this behaviour consistently after I

 configure a gprs internet connection.  On Saturday I noticed it for the

 first time without trying to configure a gprs connection - but I'm not sure

 what triggered it.  I normally try to reboot every couple of days, but

 hadn't in a while...   It was fine after a reboot...



 I guess you just need to pretend the FR is a windows box and reboot it every

 couple of days... :-)



Well, thanks for your answer, at least I'm not alone :)



I can state the GPRS connection isn't the (only) reason, for I never

configured any on my phone.



Rebooting is a quick-fix, but without knowing how often one should do

it, it's kinda pointless :/



Regards,



--

Olivier

 M.



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Re: [QtExtended] Best 4.4.2 image?

2008-11-19 Thread Alishams Hassam
I have been using qtextended  with mwester's kernel as a daily phone.
Using even the unstable kernel, ontop of daily phone features (making
and receiving calls, txt msgs, caller id, contacts off sim) it also
suspends/resumes perfect, can play mp3's with the media player (using
the headphones as well), and transfer files to the SD card. Should you
have any problems, you can always switch to the stable kernel.
http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html is where you will find the kernels. The
only issue I have had is a missing terminal shortcut when I used the
binary update for 4.4.1 to 4.4.2. Since you're not doing that, it should
be fine :)

On Wed, 2008-11-19 at 11:22 +, Russell Hay wrote:
 Hi list, 
 
 I know there is the 'official' QTExtended image on qtextended.org -
 but there have also been various discussions on the list about using
 mwesters kernel and some other changes/patches not reflected in the
 qtextended package. What's the most stable version that I can trial as
 a 'day to day' handset. 
 
 I'll even volunteer to update the wiki with the information :-o
 
 Russ
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RE: FDOM -- Gestures program not working?

2008-09-17 Thread Alishams Hassam

you have to start the gestures daemon manually. If you are connecting through 
ssh DISPLAY=:0 /etc/init.d/gesl start If you are typing it on the phone you 
can omit DISPLAY=:0 See the wiki page for more info.

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 To: community@lists.openmoko.org
 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:22:00 -0700
 Subject: FDOM -- Gestures program not working?
 
 In the latest (20080913) FDOM, it comes with a Gestures program; but I 
 haven't 
 been able to get it to train any gestures.  Is anyone else seeing this 
 problem?  Anyone know the root cause (or a fix?)
 
 I can choose an item, and it will ask me to make the gesture, but no matter 
 how much I shake it, it will not respond.
 
 -- 
 Kelvie Wong
 
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