Re: Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-15 Thread Bastian Muck
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Am 15.03.2010 08:16, schrieb Dr. Michael Lauer:
 Well, former Openmoko CEO of marketing always said there is one state 
 file to rule them all - does that hold no longer?

It was never like this. I always hat do edit the state-files. Even the
micvolume in the state-files in the newest SHR-unstable is much to
loud, so that the person on the other side hears loude noise. When I
turn the micvolume down to 86 then (s)he can hear me good. (I have
Buzz-Fix done by Nikolaus).

Greetungs Bastian
 Cheers,

 :M:

 Am 15.03.2010 um 06:45 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
h...@goldelico.com
  :


 Am 14.03.2010 um 23:42 schrieb Ben Wilson:


 Just my two cents. I think at this point distributions' defaults
 should be towards A7 users, since all new users are anyway A7 
 users
 and A5/A6 owners by now are surely aware of the ALSA setting
 problematics.

 Hi,

 If it really depends on the Ax model I think they should be somehow
 distinguished by /proc/cpuinfo so if different ALSA settings are
 needed,
 they should be selected automatically based on that.


 It would be a big help. Totally agree.

 It's a good idea, but how would it get the info about which Ax 
 version
 the user has.
 Even if the A(x) manufactured version is detecable in software I
 doubt a
 home modified A(x) to A(x+1) is.
 It would really need to be user specified.

 Yes, there is no chance to detect it aitomatically.

 But there could be a nice Settings GUI:

 Base Model  A5/A6/A7
 Buzz-FixO YES  O NO
 #1024-Fix O YES  O NO
 Bass-FixO YES  O NO

 Maybe, FSO could support the underlaying database?

 Nikolaus

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Re: [SHR-U] WiFi-related memory leak

2010-02-22 Thread Bastian Muck
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Am 21.02.2010 10:37, schrieb Timo Juhani Lindfors:
 Denis Shulyaka shuly...@gmail.com writes:
 It writes output of `ps auxf`, `free` and `df -h` to a corresponding
 file every 5 minutes.

 Hmm, you are using swap. I do not know how to see how many bytes each
 process has in swap. This would let us see which process is the one
 whose memory usage steadily increases. Now we only see that RSS
 (number of bytes each process has in RAM) decreases when the bytes are
 moved to swap.

 Can you try the same test again without swap?

I know, I can't help that much, but I am sure that midori is the
problem. I often hear music with vagalume over wlan and it is no
problem to hear 3 or 4 hours. But if I use Midori then after 10
minutes (and sometimes less) the system hangs because of no ram.


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Re: [SHR][PATCH-rev44960] Fix for edje dragable parts not working

2010-01-15 Thread Bastian Muck
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Am 15.01.2010 12:21, schrieb daniele_athome:
 Hi list. In recent shr-unstable builds, there is a bug that
 involves all dragable parts (sliders, toggles, idle screen slider,
 etc.): they always return to zero/off.

 This bug has been there for about a week, and SHR team says that in
 a day or two they will bump EFL to revision 45060, which fixes that
 bug. In the meantime, because the fix is very small (just 2
 function calls, a little change), I recompiled the revision of the
 Edje library used by shr, patched with that fix, and tested on
 shr-unstable.

 You can find the patch to the source code attached, and here is
 the stripped library:
 http://www.casaricci.it/binaries/libedje-ver-pre-svn-05.so.0.9.93

 Just place it in /usr/lib while X is down :-)

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[FSO] Problem with opimd and Messages

2010-01-15 Thread Bastian Muck
Hallo list,

i have a problem with opimd and the messageinterface. First i checked
how many messages are contained in Folder SMS:

r...@om-gta02 ~/test $ mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.opimd
/org/freesmartphone/PIM/Messages/Folders/2 GetMessageCount
9

So there should be 9 SMS. ( In fact there are just 7, but two of them
are double-sms)
Then I tried to get some of them:

r...@om-gta02 ~/test $ mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.opimd
/org/freesmartphone/PIM/Messages/Folders/2 GetMessagePaths 1 5
[   '/org/freesmartphone/PIM/Messages/1',
'/org/freesmartphone/PIM/Messages/2',
'/org/freesmartphone/PIM/Messages/3',
'/org/freesmartphone/PIM/Messages/4',
'/org/freesmartphone/PIM/Messages/5']

Ok, the first five are no problem. But as you can see, number 6 fails:

r...@om-gta02 ~/test $ mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.opimd
/org/freesmartphone/PIM/Messages/Folders/2 GetMessagePaths 1 6
/org/freesmartphone/PIM/Messages/Folders/2: GetMessagePaths failed:
org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.TypeError (Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/service.py, line 702, in
_message_cb
retval = candidate_method(self, *args, **keywords)
  File
/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimd_messages.py,
line 254, in GetMessagePaths
result.append(message['Path'])
TypeError: 'NoneType' object is unsubscriptable
)

Even if I just want to get only the path of message 6 it fails. Any idea
what I do wrong?

Greetings Bastian

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Re: [FSO] Problem with opimd and Messages

2010-01-15 Thread Bastian Muck
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Am 15.01.2010 16:19, schrieb Sebastian Krzyszkowiak:
 On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 14:37, Bastian Muck bastian.m...@gmx.de wrote:
 Hallo list,

 i have a problem with opimd and the messageinterface. First i checked
 how many messages are contained in Folder SMS:

 r...@om-gta02 ~/test $ mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.opimd
 /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Messages/Folders/2 GetMessageCount
 9

 So there should be 9 SMS. ( In fact there are just 7, but two of them
 are double-sms)
 Then I tried to get some of them:

 r...@om-gta02 ~/test $ mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.opimd
 /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Messages/Folders/2 GetMessagePaths 1 5
 [   '/org/freesmartphone/PIM/Messages/1',
'/org/freesmartphone/PIM/Messages/2',
'/org/freesmartphone/PIM/Messages/3',
'/org/freesmartphone/PIM/Messages/4',
'/org/freesmartphone/PIM/Messages/5']

 Ok, the first five are no problem. But as you can see, number 6 fails:

 r...@om-gta02 ~/test $ mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.opimd
 /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Messages/Folders/2 GetMessagePaths 1 6
 /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Messages/Folders/2: GetMessagePaths failed:
 org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.TypeError (Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/service.py, line 702, in
 _message_cb
retval = candidate_method(self, *args, **keywords)
  File

/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimd_messages.py,
 line 254, in GetMessagePaths
result.append(message['Path'])
 TypeError: 'NoneType' object is unsubscriptable
 )

 Even if I just want to get only the path of message 6 it fails. Any idea
 what I do wrong?

 Greetings Bastian

 Folders are completely not tested, and as you just noticed: they don't
 work yet. I'll maybe look at them soon, but that's rather on low
 priority.

How do you access sms then?
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Re: [Shr-User] Alternatives to FR

2010-01-07 Thread Bastian Muck
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Am 07.01.2010 21:08, schrieb Jim Ancona:
 On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
 mic...@vanille-media.de wrote:
 Am Mittwoch, den 06.01.2010, 17:28 +0100 schrieb Laszlo KREKACS:
 What do you think which mobile phone has the most likeliness to RE or
 somehow put fso on it?

 - Google Nexus
 http://www.google.com/phone/

 Unlikely. Same as all other Android phones. Nightmare to get root and
 after that, you have quite some work to remove the Androidisms. Or teach
 FSO to use them as well. Modem-interface unclear.

 No rooting neccessary. As I posted earlier on this thread, the Nexus
 One allows users to unlock the bootloader. See
 http://tinyurl.com/y9nusuy
Wow, that looks nice. Then there is hope, that (except Freerunner)
there will be another phone looking up for the award of the most free
phone.

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Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

2009-12-29 Thread Bastian Muck
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Am 29.12.2009 21:34, schrieb jeremy jozwik:
 On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi
 wrote:
 Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Do you use FR as your
 primary PDA? What distribution you run most of the time?

 yes
+1
 yes
+1
 and shr-u 20091205
latest

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Re: Freerunner, Qt Extended Improved, libswt issue

2009-12-28 Thread Bastian Muck
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Hi Juan Lucas Dominiguez Rubio,

did you install the package classpath-awt and add it to the
classpath of the application? I think this is needed. And why do you
use the Getting started with Java on Maemo instead of [1]?

[1] https://wiki.evolvis.org/jalimo/index.php/OpenMoko

Greetings Bastian

Am 28.12.2009 13:05, schrieb Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio:
 Re: [jalimo-info] Freerunner, Qt Extended Improved, libswt issue
 Hello, Sebastian. yes, I tried -among other things- to install
 explicitly the jni package with no success.

 In one of the tests, I got an unsatisfied link error even though
 the .so files needed were actually there. As if those .so files
 were useless.

 In another test, one of the .so files was deleted (?) when trying
 to execute the SWT-based application (even though I removed all
 the writing permission. Amazing: there's a force stronger than
 linux permissions)

 In the last tests, I got an error message that said something like
 no more handles.

 All this worked fine on OM 200X and on SHR

 I thiought it would be too complicated to explain all those
 details, so I prefered to re-shape my question:

 Anybody got the SWT Sample application shown here [1] to work on
 Freerunner + any of the Qt* distributions ('Qt Extended', 'Qt
 Extended Improved' or 'QtMoko')? (FYI: QtMoko seems to be a Debian
 distribution plus a Qt GUI)

 [1]
 https://wiki.evolvis.org/jalimo/index.php/Getting_Started_With_Java_On_Maemo

  Thanks, Juan Lucas



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*De:* Sebastian Mancke [mailto:s.man...@tarent.de]
 *Enviado el:* lun 28/12/2009 9:32 *Para:*
 jalimo-i...@lists.evolvis.org *CC:* Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio
 *Asunto:* Re: [jalimo-info] Freerunner, Qt Extended Improved,
 libswt issue

 Hi Juan Lucas,


 Am Samstag, 26. Dezember 2009 02:24:40 schrieb Juan Lucas
 Dominguez Rubio:
 Hello, list

 I have installed 'Qt Extended Improved' in my Freerunner, then:
 I do not know the 'Qt Extended ..' Distro. Are the GTK libraries
 available there? (SWT needs them).


 opkg install libswt3.4-gtk-java jamvm gpsd classpath-gtk
 classpath-common
 classpath

 You should have the package libswt3.4-gtk-jni installed. It
 contains the native libs for SWT and should normally come as
 dependency of libswt3.4-gtk- java.

 Regards, Sebastian


 and I also added this repository in my conf files:


 http://security.debian.org/debian-security/dists/stable/updates/main/binary

  -arm

 because one of the packages was asking for openjdk-6-jre and
 that's where I
 found it.

 But now my app is not running, it says:

 Exception in thread main java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no
 swt-gtk-3448
 or swt-gtk in swt.library.path, java.library.path or the jar file
 at org.eclipse.swt.internal.Library.loadLibrary(Library.java:233)
 at org.eclipse.swt.internal.Library.loadLibrary(Library.java:151)
 at org.eclipse.swt.internal.C.clinit(C.java:21) at
 org.eclipse.swt.internal.Converter.wcsToMbcs(Converter.java:63)
 at
 org.eclipse.swt.internal.Converter.wcsToMbcs(Converter.java:54)
 at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.clinit(Display.java:130) at
 es.prodevelop.gvsig.mobile.app.Launcher.main(Launcher.java:131)

 And indeed I dont have any folder /usr/lib/jni or any file
 *swt*.so in my
 system.

 This worked fine in OM 2009 and previous. Any ideas?

 Regards, Juan Lucas


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Re: Homemade USB gamepad (NeoPlay)

2009-12-12 Thread Bastian Muck
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Laszlo KREKACS schrieb:
 On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Bastian Muck bastian.m...@gmx.de wrote:
 Here is a picture to get an idea about printing quality (I printed an
 iphone docking
 station for my friend):
 http://sites.google.com/site/laszlokrekacs/reprap/iphone2_k.jpg

 Btw I also plan to design a docking station. Anyone interested to
 collaborating?;-)
 With which software do you design the dockingstation? I have some
 experience with blender. If you use it, I could help.

 I didnt modelled the iphone docking station. If I would model a docking
station
 then it would be definietly an openmoko one, not an iphone one.

 I just printed the model out.

 Still you can help modelling a docking station. I have something in
mind, that
 the mouth of the docking station would be at least two times bigger
than the
 phone periphery, and would have a form of a cone.

 So I could basically just throw the phone into, and it would
 automagically plug itself in.
I guess that this is very hard to achieve, because the dockingstation
then has to be designed and printed very exactly.

 Laszlo

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Re: Navigation

2009-12-12 Thread Bastian Muck
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Mike Crash schrieb:
 I use A* for routing, it is usable, but still not what I expect.
 But I have some improvements in my mind :) I need to create
 rerouting now and to test it in real life

I don't have any idea, how the code looks like, but I guess, that you
use gps-positions as heuristic and distances as edge-weights. That
means that you always get the shortest path. If you want  to get the
fastes path, then you have to use timevalues calculated by possible
speed and edge-length. With openstreetmaps that can be difficult,
because many roads don't have any speedsproperties. You often only can
use the roadtype depending on country to guess the speed.
Maybe you used this, but in a first shit, I guess that you don't.

I hope these ideas can help you improving your tool.

Greetings Bastian

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Re: Homemade USB gamepad (NeoPlay)

2009-12-10 Thread Bastian Muck
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Laszlo KREKACS schrieb:
 On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:54 PM, ANT ant0...@gmail.com wrote:
 Laszlo KREKACS wrote:
 I think the full screen issues is just some temporary xfce issue.
 Actually I just switched LCD to QVGA mode, not XFCE itself.

 Btw, if you are interested having a 3D case, just shoot me an email
 Sure, I'm interested in that. But it is needed to design a CAD model.
I may
 try to make one if I have enough spare time. Then I'll email you. Or
you may
 help with designing too?

 Im a beginner too (in CAD modelling). I imagine the workflow something
 like this:
 you model it, I print it. Then I post pictures of the print, how is it
 looks like on the
 freerunner, where are the design faults, and printing faults.
 Then we fix it, and print again. And again, and again.

 As far as modelling is concerned, this is the open source toolbox:
 - blender
 - openscad
 - qcad
 - inkscape

 Inkscape is great for the logo for example (import it into blender,
 extrude it, etc).
 qcad +openscad is great for accurate modelling. qcad for 2d, openscad for
 3d (extruding 2d, boolean it, etc).



 I assume you meant a separate case for gamepad addon, but it also would be
 great (as arne anka said) to have a full replacement gaming case for
 Freerunner, or at least a LCD cover with integrated buttons.

 As arne have asked too, I own a reprap machine. So there are some
limitations,
 namely:
 - the printing process is achieved layer-by-layer printing. About 0.5mm
layers,
 so you can feel them with your nail. At least 2 layers required to
 really bond together.
 - some postprocessing is required, polishing the plastic, to get rid
 of the layers,
 and have a better look
 - no overhangs less then 45 degree. (ie. I cant print a standing
 letter T because,
 there is nothing under the top part of the T. Or the roof of the
 house. (ie. four walls
 plus the roof).

 So summing up, we need at least 2mm thickness. So printing out the original
 case is impossible, because it has less then 1mm of wall thickness.

 But for prototyping, or having a gamepad, what you posted does not impose
 such a strict limitation. So nobody really care if it is 3mm or 5mm thick.

 Here is a picture to get an idea about printing quality (I printed an
 iphone docking
 station for my friend):
 http://sites.google.com/site/laszlokrekacs/reprap/iphone2_k.jpg

 Btw I also plan to design a docking station. Anyone interested to
 collaborating?;-)
With which software do you design the dockingstation? I have some
experience with blender. If you use it, I could help.

 and I can print you one if you are in EU. (im sure we can figure out
 how to ship to worldwide)
 I'm not in EU.

 Ok we arrange it somehow.

 (or having electrical board in return;-)
 Of course ;)
 Great!

 Best regards,
  Laszlo

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Re: Navigation

2009-12-10 Thread Bastian Muck
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Hello Mike,

which alorithm do you use? A* or just the slow Dijkstra as Navit does?

Greetings Bastian

Mike Crash schrieb:
 Hello everyone, I only want to inform you, that I am working on new
  navigation for the Freerunner, current name is MC Navi, but may
 change. Screenshots here:

 http://www.mikecrash.com/index.php?name=Newsfile=articleid=115


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Re: #1024-rework service available

2009-10-23 Thread Bastian Muck
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Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller schrieb:
 Am 23.10.2009 um 13:21 schrieb Laszlo KREKACS:

 On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
 h...@computer.org wrote:
 Q: Bass-Rework?
 A: we currently have no plans because it is again a different work
 which has to be evaluated, tested, prepared for the public. And 
 demand
 appears to be lower.
 But having bass rework the same time as the 1024 fix, its a huge
 benefit and also
 more attractive service.

 I for example will never send my phone for just to the #1024 fix,
 because I plan
 to in a way or another apply the bass fix.
 So no point to sending you to do the half of the job. (the easier 
 half actually)

 Frankly, when you dismounted the phone, and you have the necessary
 tools in your hand, than applying
 the bass rework in plus, is a negligible price

 No. You have to open a different tin can. You have to cut and solder 
 different cables. The test procedure is different.

 We want to make sure that every fix we offer really works, is 
 reproducible and has high quality. Therfore, it is not just doing 
 the same thing again.

 The common work is of course the logistics which is done only once.

 In my really biased view, I find ugly to coming up each quarter year
 to provide a separate fix, and thus requireing people to send you
 their freerunner multiple times...

 Nobody is required to ask for the reworks at all...

 ((also I find not fair to having the two fix together involves almost
 the double price, as it does not require double amount of work))

 We are a community. Therfore, you are free (and I hope open) to come 
 up with your own, cheaper offers...

 Nikolaus

 Best regards,
 Laszlo

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Have any effords been done to prepare a bass-fix?
Can you guess a date where and if you will offer it?
When it will be offered I would prefer to let both be fixed.


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Re: #1024-rework service available

2009-10-22 Thread Bastian Muck
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Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller schrieb:
 Hi all,

 some users of Neo Freerunner devices have experienced a limited
 standby time if the GSM modem goes to the deepest sleep mode. This
  became known as the #1024 bug, because that was the number it got
 in the bug tracker (https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1024).
 The software workaround was to disable sleep mode 4 as the default.
  Although there is a description of a hardware rework solution
 (http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2009-May/001192.html
  ) we do not expect that you can do it yourself. Therefore, we have
  worked on a professional approach.

 With the help of a local SMD specialist company in Munich, Golden
  Delicious Computers can now offer a rework service to those who
 really suffer from this problem. Price is 45 EUR (incl. German VAT
 of 19%). If you combine with the Buzz-Rework (for A5 and A6
 versions only) it is 75 EUR. And there is a rebate for groups of 5
 or 10 units.

 http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=1024-Rework

 Nikolaus



 Conditions

 • This service is for the EU harmonized market only (sorry for
 Norway  Switzerland) • Customer will send in, get rework and get
 the device sent back within approx. two weeks • The 2 way shipping
 cost will be covered by the customer. • When choosing a parcel
 service, please choose one that allows you to track your parcel
 since we are not responsible for incoming parcels. For German
 customers we recommend Hermes-Versand and for UK Royal Mail. •
 Please pack carefully, but just the Neo Freerunner (without
 battery, battery cover, headset, pouch, stylus, SIM card, SDcard
 etc.). We are not responsible for lost accessories - only for the
  device. We strongly recommend to use the original black box. • In
 the rare case that we damage your device, you will get a fresh Neo
 Freerunner (but your data is lost). • If you have several
 Freerunners to rework, please add as many Reworks as you want to
 the shopping cart. This will reduce shipment cost compared to
 several single shipments. And, we offer a volume discount to
 encourage group buys (5: 5%; 10: 10%; 50: 15%). Rebates are
 automatically shown in the shopping cart.

 Important notes

 • After payment is done, please follow the Rework Instructions
 (http://www.handheld-linux.com/images/Instructions.pdf ) • Please
 note that we can handle this service only for customers in the EU
 harmonized market because temporary import/export is too
 complicated if we want to avoid that you (or we) have to pay again
 the import tax for your original Freerunner. • This is not a
 Bass-Fix: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_bass_fix

 How to test if my devices works or needs rework

 • obtain a command line (e.g. ssh from outside) • open
 /usr/bin/mickeyterm • type these commands (one after the other)
 AT+CFUN? AT+CFUN=1 --- only if CFUN? does not report 1
 AT+CPIN=insert your pin AT%SLEEP=4 AT%CSQ=1 AT+CREG=2 AT+COPS=0,0
  • wait some minutes. If you see +CREG: 0 and/or %CSQ: 99, 99, 0
 your device is recamping.

 here a good device: +CREG: 2 +CREG: 1,033F,5BC4 %CSQ: 13, 99, 1
  %CSQ: 7, 99, 0 %CSQ: 10, 99, 1 +CREG: 1,033F,2992 %CSQ: 18,
 99, 2 %CSQ: 15, 99, 1 and here a bad device: +CREG: 2 +CREG:
 1,033F,2992 %CSQ: 15, 99, 1 +CREG: 0 %CSQ: 99, 99, 0 +CREG:
 1,033F,2992 %CSQ: 18, 99, 2 +CREG: 0 %CSQ: 99, 99, 0 +CREG:
 1,033F,2992 %CSQ: 17, 99, 1 +CREG: 0


 
  Mobile Office Solutions by Golden Delicious Computers GmbHCo. KG
 Buchenstr. 3 D-82041 Oberhaching +49-89-54290367
 http://www.handheld-linux.com

 AG München, HRA 89571 VAT DE253626266 Komplementär: Golden
 Delicious Computers Verwaltungs GmbH Oberhaching, AG München, HRB
 16602 Geschäftsführer: Dr. Nikolaus Schaller

 Digital Tools for Independent People
 







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That are great news. I guess that I will buy the rework.

Greetungs Bastian
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Re: [SHR-u] black screen of death on resume

2009-09-25 Thread Bastian Muck
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I get this every second day. I'm not sure, but I have the impression
that it could be caused when gprs-connection is enabled. The last two
tomes when it happened, i had opened a gprs-connection shortly bevor.

Greetungs Bastian

Rui Miguel Silva Seabra schrieb:
 Is anyone else noticing a black screen of death when
 pressing the power button for resume?

 This has been happening to me since I upgrade about a week ago.

 Yesterday I upgraded gain, but it seems to be the same.

 This is happening to me in an yet undeterminated way, but quite
 frequently, and regardless of status of NEW_FAIR_SLEEPERS

 It looks like off since there's no ssh, no screen light, etc...
 but if I keep the power button pressed for those magic 8 s then
 it power's off and I can thus start it again.

 It has already cost me loosing a few calls.

 Rui

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Re: browsing: enforce layout for mobile devices

2009-09-21 Thread Bastian Muck
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You are right, it is a great browser. But two things are kind of
showstoppers (at least at some pages):
1. No window-open is possible
2. when changing to another app, the keyboard does not send any keys
to ewww anymore
OpenMitko schrieb:
 In my opinion ewww [1] is the best browser so far, even in this
 demo stage, it is better than  all the others. I hope that someone
 is working on it, and soon we will have one great browser :)

 [1] http://www.opkg.org/package_173.html

 2009/9/21 Alexander Lehner leh...@edv-buero-lehner.de
 mailto:leh...@edv-buero-lehner.de


 Hi,

 there are many web seriveces, that offer a special compressed
 layout for
 mobile devices (gmx for example).
 I think they do this by reading some HTTP header fields like
 browser-Id or
 similair.

 Does anyone have experience with that? Or suggestions which
 browser to use
 (I currently use midori, but even midori's UI does not fit into
 the FR
 screen).

 Thanks,
 Alex.


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Re: Intone and lyrics with album art;)

2009-09-09 Thread Bastian Muck
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What about the albumimage in the id3-tag? Can you use it?
That would be great. mp3Tag can import them very well.

c_c schrieb:
 Hi,

 Laszlo KREKACS wrote:
 I would like to ask, how to add an albumart to intone?

   In this case - change the name of the file Lady GaGa - Poker Face.jpg to
 cover.jpg. That should display your cover art.

 Laszlo KREKACS wrote:
 What is the fileformat of lyrics?

   It's a text file as you have discovered. :-) BTW you could use intone
as a
 flashcard app with music / speech accompaniment this way!!

 Laszlo KREKACS wrote:
 Is there a website to download tagged lyrics?

   I use [1] for getting the lyrics and album art. In fact I had planned on
 using their API to automate getting lyrics and album art - but apparently
 because of licensing issues the API has been stopped.

 Laszlo KREKACS wrote:
 Ahh, I see it displays the text in a textbox as is.
 No advanced feature, like karaoke;)

   Do you have any ideas on how to implement karaoke without using up too
 much CPU? I thought that the basic DSP stuff (being floating point) would
 kill the Neo.
   I could divide the time by the no of lines and shift selected lime to get
 a rough indication - but that wont work for most of rock and metal.

 Laszlo KREKACS wrote:
 Could you please wrap lines of textbox?

   Sure! Next release this weekend.

 [1]http://lyrics.wikia.com/lyrics/Main_Page

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Re: Intone and lyrics with album art;)

2009-09-09 Thread Bastian Muck
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Sure,

on this page [1] is an example [2].

Greetings, Bastian

[1] http://www.tonspion.de/download.php?nid=465783
[2]
http://pmatunes.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/massive-attack-feat-tunde-adebimpe-pray-for-rain.mp3

c_c schrieb:
 Hi,

 Bastian Muck wrote:
 What about the albumimage in the id3-tag? Can you use it? That
 would be great. mp3Tag can import them very well.

 Not yet. I'll add this soon. Can you send me an audio file to
 experiment with? Thanks

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Re: german fixing the #1024 bug party

2009-09-06 Thread Bastian Muck
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Kahless schrieb:
 hi all,

 I'm interested in fixing my #1024 bug but i don't want to send it
 somewhere. (it's my main phone and i love it too much :) )

 Is anyone near /North-Rhine/-Westphalia interested in starting a small
 bug fix party?

 Sascha

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Yes I am (Cologne),

Greetungs
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Re: [SHR] roaming problem

2009-06-15 Thread Bastian Muck
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You are right. It sounds strange but indeed unstable is more stable
than testing.

Sebastian Krzyszkowiak schrieb:
 Use SHR-unstable. Trust me - bugreports on shr-testing are usefulness
 (espessially as there was huge amount of work towards operator
 selecting in SHR Settings).

 On 6/15/09, ßingen bingen...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm using SHR testing in Spain. Last week I wento to Italy and my sim was
 not
 able to register, and in the screen it showed SOS only. I put the sim in
 another mobile and it worked. Then I put the sim back into the
Freerunner it
 worked also.

 When I came back to Spain, i had again the same problem, with the SOS
only
 message. I did the same: put the sim in another mobile and back into the
 Freerunner, and it worked. But of course I think it's not a good solution,
 because is needed another mobile to travel abroad with the Freerunner.

 I don't know if it's related but I tried to go to Settings - Phone and
 click
 on Operators button, and it said Please wait... for a while but did
 nothing,
 so I could'nt try to choose the network manually.
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Re: [shr-unstable] packages for canola media player

2009-06-13 Thread Bastian Muck
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Hermann Lacheiner schrieb:
 Thank you all for your feedback!

 The bitbake recipes need some clean-ups, for example SRCREV should be
 moved to autorev in the openmoko tree.

 It would be good to integrate the recipes into the openembedded (shr?)
 repository, request was filed already
 http://shr-project.org/trac/ticket/515

 There are additional plugins available for canola, e.g. youtube,
 lastfm or upnp. When I have time I will create packages for them too
 in the next days.

The plugins would be great. I found them, tried to install and had to
recogize, that deb packages are used.

Another question: Is it possible to run canola without fullscreen? I
often switch between apps and I always have to exit canola when
wanting to use  a different app.

 Cheers, hermann

 2009/6/12 Morten mor...@lysgaard.no:
 Wow! This has to be the best looking, and the app with the best
usability for
 freerunner ever! Thanks so much for the package!
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Re: latest and greatest, progress mail 2

2009-04-03 Thread Bastian Muck
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I guess that you are talking about QT Extended, don't you?
If yes this is (partly) good message. the double sms and call bug is a
little bit annoying.

Franky Van Liedekerke schrieb:
 Ok, I know that probably nobody is interested, but I'm mailing it
 anyway :-)
 New progress/bugs:

 All Ok:
 - alarms (using atd from angstrom, since no newer package exists),
   normal + when suspended
 - wake up when receiving sms
 - call + echo check
 - missed call bug
 - duplicate sms thing
 - voice notes (see my mail/patch)
 - mail ok
 - wifi ok

 Problems:
 - usb cable handling for power charging
   == it seems andy-tracking kernel has an issue with power
 detection on the usb port, so I'm going to try the stable kernel
 from http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/unstable/NeoFreerunner/
 - bluetooth
   == bluetooth not available error
 - sms stay on SIM as well as on phone
   == All sms's are stored on the phone *and* on the SIM. I don't
 think that this is wanted behaviour (deleting an SMS only works on
 the SMS's stored on the phone)
 - I had a crash this morning, might be kernel related as well

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Re: Solar charger

2009-03-30 Thread Bastian Muck
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If Neo charged in suspend you would be right. But Neo does not charge
in suspend.

Greetungs Bastian

Timo Juhani Lindfors schrieb:
 Thomas Gstädtner tho...@gstaedtner.net writes:
 According to the data-sheet it maxes out at 100 mA, not enough to keep
 the Neo running, and definitely not enough to charge it.

 But neo only uses about 15-30 mA on suspend so you should be able to
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Re: [qtextended] wireless script not correct

2009-03-30 Thread Bastian Muck
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Franky Van Liedekerke schrieb:
 On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:10:34 +0100 Franky Van Liedekerke
 liede...@telenet.be wrote:

 Hi,

 (I can't create a ticket on
 http://trac.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved, so I'm posting on
 the list)

 the wireless lan only works once, because the wpa_supplicant is
 left running after stopping the wireless. Here's a complete bug
 report with a fix:


http://www.qtsoftware.com/developer/task-tracker/index_html?method=entryid=241864


 It seems to work (now wireless can be on/off multiple times), but
 the resolving still doesn't work (since I can't seem to connect
 to the internet). Maybe some extra logging can help, but this is
 for sure the beginning :-)

 Franky


 ok, I managed to create the ticket now, and I also fixed the
 script. Now dhcp works ok for wireless, and routing and resolv.conf
 are now being set correctly for dhcp as well. Proof: the integrated
 webserver works ok now, yey! And the software packages work now as
 well, etc ... (well ok, not much proof here, but see the ticket
 http://trac.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved/ticket/6 and try it
 out for yourself).

 Franky

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Is it possible now to enter passwords in password-fields? The last
time i tried this was with qt extended 4.4.2 and the keyboard
disappeared when selecting the passwordfield.

Greetungs Bastian
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Re: qt extended stops receiving sms

2009-03-15 Thread Bastian Muck
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Hi Glen,

I have the same Problem with QT Extended 4.4.2. I wanted to test the
new Version 4.4.3 but did not find any Information if the known
problems (like doubled incoming calls) are fixed. So I will wait
another few days before testing the new version.

Greetings Bastian

Glen Ogilvie schrieb:
 Hi,

 I've been having a problem with QT Extended not receiving txt
messages.  Any
 suggestions?  When I restart qtopia they seem to arrive, or if I boot
into om
 2008.12 they arrive.

 Regards
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[DBus]Probleme mit DBus in Java

2009-03-10 Thread Bastian Muck
Hi,

I am testing a little with java and DBus on the Freerunner. I got Java
(and Swing) running on it very well. But when I try to get a simple
value I get this Exception. Can someone help me where I can find this
Class dbusjava_localized?

Exception in thread Thread-1 java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
org/freedesktop/dbus/Gettext
   at
org.freedesktop.dbus.DBusConnection$_sighandler.handle(DBusConnection.java:54)
   at
org.freedesktop.dbus.AbstractConnection$2.run(AbstractConnection.java:845)
   at
org.freedesktop.dbus.AbstractConnection$_workerthread.run(AbstractConnection.java:174)
Exception in thread Thread-2 java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError
   at
org.freedesktop.dbus.DBusConnection$_sighandler.handle(DBusConnection.java:54)
   at
org.freedesktop.dbus.AbstractConnection$2.run(AbstractConnection.java:845)
   at
org.freedesktop.dbus.AbstractConnection$_workerthread.run(AbstractConnection.java:174)
Caused by: java.util.MissingResourceException: Bundle dbusjava_localized
not found for locale en_US by classloader
java.lang.ClassLoader$1{urls=[file:/home/root/test/./dbus-test.jar,file:/home/root/test/./cgi-0.5.jar,file:/home/root/test/./debug-disable-1.1.jar,file:/home/root/test/./debug-enable-1.1.jar,file:/home/root/test/./hexdump-0.2.jar,file:/home/root/test/./io-0.1.jar,file:/home/root/test/./unix-0.5.jar],
parent=null}
   at java.util.ResourceBundle.getBundle(ResourceBundle.java:410)
   at java.util.ResourceBundle.getBundle(ResourceBundle.java:231)
   at org.freedesktop.dbus.Gettext.clinit(Gettext.java:26)
   at
org.freedesktop.dbus.DBusConnection$_sighandler.handle(DBusConnection.java:54)
   ...2 more

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[FSO] DBus Remote - missing package socat - for writing remote sms-tool

2009-03-03 Thread Bastian Muck
Hi all,

I'm playing a little with DBus and JAVA. THe first communication just
works fine. I heart, that it is possible to let the local DBus, in my
case a PC, communicate with a remote DBus, in my case the Freerunner
(what else?). In [1] is described how to achieve the remote connection.
The author writes, that the remote system has to have installed socat,
but I can't find it in the repository (FSO MS5). Is it possible that
someone can compile it for me? That would be great.

Perhaps I should say, for which application I want to use this. Maybe
that there is a better way.

I want to write a sms-application for the desktop, which sends the
messages via the freerunner. Another way, which came in my mind was
writing a server (java.rmi) which makes the dbus-connection and a
client, which just connects to rmi. But in my mind the first solution
looks better because you don't need an extra server.

Any comments and hints are welcome.

[1]
http://www.eldemonionegro.com/wordpress/archivos/2008/05/22/howto-to-intercomunicate-processes-in-differentremote-machines-through-dbus


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Re: multitouch possible?

2009-01-26 Thread Bastian Muck
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I guess, that the most simple solution is to add a button in the
center between the two buttons for the paddles. When this button is
pressed, both paddles shall be aktivated.

Greetings Bastian

Davide Scaini schrieb:
 i tried with synaptics drivers on debian, but with no luck...
 i'm very interested in this topic...
 d

 On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 6:31 PM, gnu...@no-log.org
 mailto:gnu...@no-log.org wrote:

 Hello,I tried the Linball game
 (http://www.opkg.org/package_107.html).
 But sometimes it doesn't work well because I used 2 fingers.
 So multitouch would be cool.

 And someone has develloped a multitouch driver for android:

http://groups.google.com/group/android-platform/browse_thread/thread/209b512a9fdf7367
 Is that possible because the hardware of android is multitouch
 capable? or
 is it a hack permitting the multitouch on more simple  hardware?


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Re: connect freerunner with debian to a windows-PC

2009-01-06 Thread Bastian Muck
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Gothnet schrieb:
 This isn't going to help you but...

 The windows driver seems dodgy. The 5th of december Android image made
 windows bluescreen when you plugged the FR into a machine with the driver
 installed.

 Linux is your friend, though of course that's not always possible.
I don't know what your problem is. I conected my fr often to my
Windows XP and never had problems. I tried 2007.X, 2008.X and Qt Extended.

Greetings Bastian
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Re: QT Extended

2008-12-13 Thread Bastian Muck
Dale Maggee schrieb:
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 Bastian Muck wrote:
   
 Dale Maggee schrieb:

 [..]
 
 2. The Messaging app - it's doing strange things, like sometimes it
 creates duplicates of messages, so I'll see 2 or 3 copies of the same
 SMS in my inbox. So I'll move all messages to trash and empty trash,
 then a couple of minutes later an SMS will arrive and it'll say '17
 messages recieved' and I'll see many duplicates of old messages I just
 deleted in my inbox. Also it will only store about 130 messages - is
 this storing SMS messages on the SIM? can it be configured to store them
 in it's own database?

   
   
 The messages are stored in the Sim and in the sqlite-db. When i delete
 copies of my sms, these sms are not copied. The message '17' new
 messages habe arrived is caused when 17 messages are stored in the sim.
 when you delete the messages, next time there are just 1 or 2 messages.
 I guess, that on an arrived sms the messages is forgotten to be deleted
 from sim. Maybe that just 1 line of code may be the solution of the
 problem. But I don't know the code, so I can't give a 100% correct
 comment. This are just my expierences.
 
 [..]
 4. I'm told that the echo is back (which wasn't there with Trolltech's
 QT extended image, the one which didn't ring)

   
   
 There is just no echo, because the volume set in QT extended ist quite
 low. with this volume I had no problem with any image.
 
 Does anybody have any ideas on any of these things? apart from this and
 the fact that I can't run any of the cool software being produced for
 2008.x, I like Qt Extended alot!
   
   
 You can't run these apps because QT Extended has no support for GTK-Apps.


 Greetungs Bastian
 


 Thanks for your response, unfortunately it doesn't really help solve any
 of the problems i'm having.

 My friends are reporting that there *is* an echo, so telling me there's
 no echo doesn't really cut it... :)

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When the Handsfree-option is actevated, I have a heavy echo, too. But
when Handset is activated, my settings are so low, that no echo is
hearable. But afaik it depends on signalstrength and provider. And I
nearly have good signal. For your problem: try to decrease mono-volume.
This helped me with 2008.x

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Re: QT Extended

2008-12-12 Thread Bastian Muck
Dale Maggee schrieb:

[..]
 2. The Messaging app - it's doing strange things, like sometimes it
 creates duplicates of messages, so I'll see 2 or 3 copies of the same
 SMS in my inbox. So I'll move all messages to trash and empty trash,
 then a couple of minutes later an SMS will arrive and it'll say '17
 messages recieved' and I'll see many duplicates of old messages I just
 deleted in my inbox. Also it will only store about 130 messages - is
 this storing SMS messages on the SIM? can it be configured to store them
 in it's own database?

   
The messages are stored in the Sim and in the sqlite-db. When i delete
copies of my sms, these sms are not copied. The message '17' new
messages habe arrived is caused when 17 messages are stored in the sim.
when you delete the messages, next time there are just 1 or 2 messages.
I guess, that on an arrived sms the messages is forgotten to be deleted
from sim. Maybe that just 1 line of code may be the solution of the
problem. But I don't know the code, so I can't give a 100% correct
comment. This are just my expierences.
 [..]
 4. I'm told that the echo is back (which wasn't there with Trolltech's
 QT extended image, the one which didn't ring)

   
There is just no echo, because the volume set in QT extended ist quite
low. with this volume I had no problem with any image.
 Does anybody have any ideas on any of these things? apart from this and
 the fact that I can't run any of the cool software being produced for
 2008.x, I like Qt Extended alot!
   
You can't run these apps because QT Extended has no support for GTK-Apps.


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Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-08 Thread Bastian Muck
Christoph Siegenthaler schrieb:
 Hey!

 I gave QTExtended 4.4.2 another go and you were right. It really is the
best
 option to use the FR as a basic phone atm. I'm not sure why I didn't
like it
 after flashing it the first time. I think I had some issues with
suspending.
 Haven't had any problems with it so far, using the om-testing kernel.

 The echo isn't so bad either, but still there. I haven't tried to tweak the
 state-files yet. Addressbook and Calender work too. Some other first
 impressions:
 - Timezone isn't set after one changes it in the initial setup
 - Alarm doesn't ring when phone is suspended
 - Does someone know a way to turn of word prediction in the handwriting
 input style?

I don't really know how to deactivate the wordprediction, but I am
very happy to use it with a german wordlist. (I guess, that you come
from germany cause of your name.) Give it a try. If you don't know
where to get just write.

 Best regards, Chris

 



 Warren Baird wrote:
 On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Christoph Siegenthaler [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:

 Slowly but steadily my enthusiasm for the FR is vanishing. I was at least
 hoping to be able to use my freerunner as a basic phone after 5 months...


 Sorry if I'm repeating myself here - but try QTExtended 4.4.2 - it's not
 perfect, and I do miss having all of the funky X based software from the
 OM2008 based stacks, but as a basic phone, it works quite well, and I get
 36-48 hour battery life...

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Re: [QTEXTENDED] Very loud noise on (some) incoming calls

2008-12-02 Thread Bastian Muck
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I think a can bring a little light into the dark. When the feedback
occurs, either the free-speaking-option is activated (see options) or
none is activated. If you choose the handset-option, the feedback is gone.

Greetings Bastian

Olivier Migeot schrieb:
 On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 4:43 PM, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 no need to -- you've already got a collection.
 if all else fails, simply search your filesystem for files ending with
 .state, but the list archive should provide several postings with that
 path even for qtopia look for echo or buzz in august/september.

 as long your states are the original ones the default should be
 stereoout.state, enabling the big lower speaker. for calls
 gsmhandset.state should be loaded; gsmheadset.state or headset.state (not
 sure about the differences) should disable even the little speaker on top.

 Ok. I'll try that, but in a controlled environment (e.g. at home).
 Because when the noise occurs here (at work), my first move is to
 remove the battery ASAP.

 Yeah guys, I know that noise is killing your ears, but let me try to
 SSH into my phone and fix it first :)

 Thanks, anyway.


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Re: Accelerometer in Java

2008-11-09 Thread Bastian Muck
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I guess that this is the way when using jni.

Timo Juhani Lindfors schrieb:
 Bernd Prünster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 my question is: how do i read our data from the accelerometers in java?

 You open the file[1] and read data[2].

 [1] /dev/input/event{2,3}
 [2] data is a steady flow of

 struct input_event {
 struct timeval time;
 __u16 type;
 __u16 code;
 __s32 value;
 };

 See linux-2.6.26/Documentation/input/input.txt for more info.



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Re: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2 / found problems

2008-11-07 Thread Bastian Muck
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I have to add a problem i encountered.
* I got a call from an no saved number which I wanted to save. When a
klick on save to contact the dialoge is shown if i want to create a
new contact. The yes-option seems not to work. The no-option does
only work if I press the AUX-button to quit the dialoge.

* To the problem with the incoming calls: The Speakerphone-mode is
used not everytime. Luckily you can switch to Handset-mode with the
options-dialoge.

* Indeed the speakervolume could be a bit louder. But I think I will
handle this by changing the statefile.

Greetings Bastian

Marcel Meyer schrieb:
 Hi list,

 (sorry, if the information in this mail comes doubled - I sent it first
 using a wrong sender email address. In case it is unlocked by some admin:
 apologies :-) )

 I'd like to use this thread to add some problems I found so far. I won't
 repeat the ones I encountered which were already reported by others.


 But let me start with some plaudit (and here I allow myself to repeat the
 positive statements from others)!

 * The battery life is sooo much better. Standby for almost 2 days is now
 possible. That looks like the right way to go!

 * GPRS is now (most of the time ;-) ) working! I can - albeit slow - now
 surf on my Freerunner.

 * Sending SMS and calling seems to work. (Problems mentioned by other
apply
 to me too (Echo, no ring tone, etc.) )


 So thank you Trolls! (Always complaining without saying thank you is not
 very diplomatic, I think, right? *g* )



 Now, let me outline my new problems.


 * I'm not sure, if it was mentioned somewhere on the list. Just for
 completeness: the echo-problem applies to me. The other end hears its own
 voice.


 * QtExtended (using the mw-kernel incl. modules) insists that I do not
have
 a SIM card... System Info, the application SIM applications and even
 the settings when I try to change my Call Options moan about a missing
 one. (I have an obviously working O2-3G-card from Germany.)

 When I choose a contact out of the dialer application, some kind of
text box
 pops up with the title Phone Number and the word No as single content.
 Only a non-functional Cancel in the button bar. The dialer then hangs, I
 can't do anything more in it. Pressing the AUX button brings me back to
the
 home screen and the dialer app crashes (?) so I can restart.

 Dialing manually works! Also choosing a contact wihtin the address book
and
 then selecting Call is a way to call out. At least it should be pulled
 through! (I'm happy that it isn't in this case.) ;-)


 * The most severe problem is not sth. as easily reproducible. I
switched on
 my GPRS yesterday evening and choose Always On and No Timeout to
let it
 be online over night. I want to have some XMPP-client to be always online
 on the phone some day.

 When starting the browser this morning, I switched with the AUX button to
 look after some notes I added into the notes application. The browser
 seemed to kill itself (which looks like the default reaction of
 applications when I press AUX :-p ).

 Now, the browser doesn't want to start anymore. It always complains about
 some internal error and closes itself (well, perhaps this is just a
 QtE-dialog telling me the called app segfaulted? Dunno). So I wanted to
 reboot to cleanse the memory.

 The problem now is that QtE behaves strange. The battery indicator is
 showing that the battery is beeing loaded. Which it isn't of course. And
 despite the homescreen there is a text box overlayed with the instruction
 to enter my PIN and unlock it. The Unlock button is visible but
 non-functional. But that's it. There is _no_ input widget to enter my pin.
 Just the homescreen with the overlayed text box. Nothing reacts to any
 input despite pressing the power button for 8+ seconds. (Taking out the
 battery and waiting a few seconds didn't change anything.)

 I can still ssh into the FR in this state if I connect the USB cable.
CPU is
 bored (load under 0.1) so at least there is nothing running amok.



 Phew, sorry for that long post. But I hope the long descriptions make it
 easier to understand what I want to describe in my clumsy english. ;-)

 Have a nice day,
 Marcel

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Re: [SPAM] Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4

2008-10-06 Thread Bastian Muck
I had no problems with echo. But I can confirm the other issues. And one
is missing: I can't recieve SMS. Does anyone? I wrote one to myself and
a friend wrote one. after half an hour i turned neo off and put the card
in my old phone and this recieved both messages.
But now, i have another issue: somehow the theme changed. And at this
theme the buttons at the bottom don't appear. so I neither can change
nor  do any other  important things.

Greetings Bastian

gromez schrieb:
 On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 8:23 PM, Franky Van Liedekerke
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 19:43:23 +0200
 Petr Vanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

 [...]

   
 - timezone management isn't working (the files just aren't there
 in /usr/share/timezone). Also the time itself can't be changed.
 

 Same problem. A solution for getting the right date is to use the date
 command from ssh.

   
 - echo problem is back
 

 During a call, people notify me that they hear their own voice, so
 echo problem is back.

   
 - alarm keeps vibrating the phone, after pressing snooze
 

 I've tried alarm this morning and it worked fine.

   
 - each received call arrives twice, causing the second call to show up
 as missed
 

 Similar problem with calls and text messages. Even if I read them it
 seems they are never marked as read.

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Failure while opkg upgrade

2008-10-01 Thread Bastian Muck
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Hello community, I've got a little problem.
The last times, when i made opkg update/upgrade I got this error:
FATAL: Error inserting snd_soc_neo1973_wm8753
(/lib/modules/2.6.24/kernel/sound/soc/s3c24xx/snd-soc-neo1973-wm8753.ko):
No such device
May this be the reason, that i can't hear anything when I try to call
someone and this person can't hear me?
How can I fix this?

Greetings Bastian
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Re: Is anyone from openmoko working on Bug #1841 (wsod)

2008-09-26 Thread Bastian Muck
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I use testingt, too. Suspend is working well for me. I boot sometimes
with usb and sometimes without. IMHO testing works well unlike
unstable, which forced me to reflash the filesystem cause it crashed
it. Now I'm lucky again with testing.

Greetings Bastian

Petr Vanek schrieb:
 On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:48:38 +1000
 Sarton O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (SO) wrote:

 On Friday 26 September 2008 09:53:56 Glen Ogilvie wrote:
 Hi,

 Is anyone from openmoko working on Bug #1841 (wsod)?

 This bug has been around for quite a long time and is critical and
 affecting many users. Can anyone actually suspend and resume
 reliability? Without being able to suspend and resume, using the
 gta02 as a phone is not really possible for myself anyway.

 I am more than happy to assist in any way I can, but I am not a
 kernel hacker, so can't make code changes at this level to fix it.
 I use testing and have had no problems for the last 3 weeks, maybe
 more. Actually there was one update which I think broke it, but
 testing updates daily so was fixed the next day.

 I don't recommend testing ... well ... because it's testing. But I can
 honestly say I've had a great experience. I don't modify the base
 system, I just wrap around it :) ... and testing has nearly always
 worked as a daily phone for me, without tweaks.

 It may be just a touch soft but nothing like qtopia ;)

 Sarton


 I use testing too but no luck :( , tried opkg upgrade right now and
 just copied kernel version from wsod freerunner by ssh:

 kernel-image-2.6.24 -
 3:2.6.24+gitr109+a1e97c611253511ffc2d8c45e3e6d6894fa03fa3-r2 -

 is there any special procedure you follow? boot up with usb in/out?
 suspend with usb in/out?



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Re: Concept arts. Interface - how I would like it to see.

2008-09-23 Thread Bastian Muck
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I think it looks great.
Perhaps the name of the quickstartapps could be added and another,
more speaking symbol for the complete app-list  could be used. And  i
wonder, where the active  apps can be seem  (exept the tray icons).
Perhaps on the right side the list could be slided to the center (as
the  app-list seems to do from left).

But all in all, it seems to be a good idea.

Greetings Bastian

wp schrieb:

 Dear Community,

 As first, I want to say thank you for all your great job, by which
 I can do what I do now.

 Om2008.* is, (in my opinion!), not very comfortable in use (Qtopia
 goes way better, but it is still not what I want). I mean - I know
 that versions we have today are not supposed to look good, that
 everything can get changed and the biggest prioritaire is to bring
 it all work flawlessly. I know and I'm happy with it and I can't
 stand waiting for everything that lay ahead ;)

 While having some free time, I decided to create some concept arts
 of interface. They are created from what we can have today in
 Qtopia and Om, but I have added some features and polished them a
 little. So.. here you go:

 Main idea:
 http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=structure.png

 And concept arts.

 http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=artconcept1.png

 http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=artconcept2.png

 http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=artconcept3.png


 What is your opinion? Say what you like, and what you don't? Make
 your own pics, share it with us. Free the imagination!

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Re: [Om2008.08] Desktop drawer submenu subdirectory

2008-09-10 Thread Bastian Muck
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That solves the Problem. But what if someone (like me) dislikes the
slider?

Nishit Dave schrieb:
 On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 4:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi everybody.

 I have installed openmoko-games and I enjoy some of them very
 much. But
 now my desktop have too much icons to be practical.

 It would be useful to have subdirectories on the main menu. So
 if I want
 to play a game, I go to games and then there are all the games.

 I have tried (and failed) the following aproachs:

 1- Make a directory in /usr/share/applications and copy the
 .desktop files
 inside. Result: the subdirectory doesn't appear, but the
 launchers inside
 do.

 2- Make a directory launcher in the same place, and put the
 .desktop files
 inside the directory pointed. Result: the directory launch does not
 appear.


 Have you tried the Slider view under Illume menu  Configuration
 (Spanner)  Launcher  Display Type?  It categorizes applications
 and displays one icon for each category.  You can slide horizontally
 across different applications in each category.  Nice idea, but
 implementation is sub-optimal.  You can't see all applications at
 once, and end up invoking the wrong ones.

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Re: Freerunner won't charge, and won't start anymore due to out of power

2008-09-02 Thread Bastian Muck
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I had this problem, too. When it had this issue, i checked, if my
laptop find a usb device, and it did. the freerunner stays in uboot,
bis doesn't want to charge. but i have the impression, that it charges
with 100mA. That is not enough for running it, but the battery is
slowly charged, that after round about a half hour you can start it.
Then it starts and charges again.

Greetings Bastian

Paul V. Borza schrieb:
 I've flashed the updated 2008.8 on my Freerunner, and then left it
 for a couple of days without turning on. Yesterday I've tried to
 turn it on: it starts, the Openmoko logo appears, and then it
 suddenly turns off.

 I think this is because of the battery that is already out of
 power. However, I've tried connecting the Freerunner to the USB for
 more than 12 hours, but the battery won't charge - or at least I
 think it's not charging, because whenever I turn it on, the same
 out of the blue shutdown happens.

 Has anyone got a similar behavior? Should/is the Neo charging when
 is turned off and connected to the PC? I can't use it right now,
 because it won't even boot, because during boot, it shuts down.

 Thanks.

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Re: Media player

2008-08-30 Thread Bastian Muck
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Michael Zanetti schrieb:
 On Saturday 30 August 2008 17:43:26 Thomas Bertani wrote:

 ehm... I copied in a folder (called sounds a mp3 song to
 /home/root/Documents/, I restarted X but the qtopia-x11 media player is
 empty... it doesn't show my mp3 file... how do you used it exactly? (sorry
 for my bad english)

 I cannot retry it at the moment because my Openmoko currently is a
BrokenMoko
 (See my other thread in this list). But I'm fairly sure I did that like
I sad
 before. Perhaps you could try a reboot to make the Media Player
recognize the
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I can confirm that this works. But the media players seems not to read
the ID3-Tag. An it isn't usable. You can hear half a second and then
you have half a second break. But it can play mp3

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Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-15 Thread Bastian Muck
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Timo Jyrinki schrieb:
 2008/8/15 Christian Anke [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 what is with this? the top accelerometer does not work!
 Also after restarting the neo.

 can this be a hardware fault?

 Same problem here. The earlier version of gestures worked for me once,
 but didn't work later on. hexdumping event3 seems to show data, but
 currently nothing from event2 despite reboots.

 Probably something for the Openmoko hw/driver team to investigate again.

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I don't get any data out of event2 and event3. Even if i kill neod, I
get no data. But I wonder why Eightball ran some days ago. Now it
doesnt run either. As you could probably see, I am runnung 2007.2 Image.

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Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-15 Thread Bastian Muck
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Andy Green schrieb:
 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Timo Jyrinki schrieb:
 | 2008/8/15 Christian Anke [EMAIL PROTECTED]: | what is with
 this? the top accelerometer does not work! | Also after
 restarting the neo. | | can this be a hardware fault? | Same
 problem here. The earlier version of gestures worked for me once,
 | but didn't work later on. hexdumping event3 seems to show data,
 but | currently nothing from event2 despite reboots. | | Probably
 something for the Openmoko hw/driver team to investigate again. |
 | -Timo | | ___ |
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 http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community | | I don't
 get any data out of event2 and event3. Even if i kill neod, I | get
 no data. But I wonder why Eightball ran some days ago. Now it |
 doesnt run either. As you could probably see, I am runnung 2007.2
 Image.

 what does

 cat /proc/interrupts

 say?

 -Andy
Without x startet:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /proc/interrupts
   CPU0
 16:  2s3c-ext0  lis302dl
 17:  1s3c-ext0  modem
 30:8506114 s3c  S3C2410 Timer Tick
 33: 14 s3c  s3c24xx_hcd
 35:1990012 s3c  I2S PCM Stereo out
 37:202 s3c  S3c24xx SDIO host controller
 41:  41714 s3c  s3c2410_udc
 42:  0 s3c  ohci_hcd:usb1
 43:  37631 s3c  s3c2440-i2c
 48:  1 s3c-ext  Neo1973 Headphone Jack
 49:  1 s3c-ext  ar6000
 50:  1 s3c-ext  Neo1973 AUX button
 51:  3 s3c-ext  Neo1973 HOLD button
 53: 58 s3c-ext  pcf50633
 60:  2 s3c-ext  lis302dl
 70:  72144   s3c-uart0  s3c2440-uart
 71:  29348   s3c-uart0  s3c2440-uart
 73:  0   s3c-uart1  s3c2440-uart
 74:  2   s3c-uart1  s3c2440-uart
 76:  0   s3c-uart2  s3c2440-uart
 77: 20   s3c-uart2  s3c2440-uart
 79: 87 s3c-adc  s3c2410_action
 80:  21291 s3c-adc  s3c2410_action
Err:  0

With x startet:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /proc/interrupts
   CPU0
 16:  2s3c-ext0  lis302dl
 17:  1s3c-ext0  modem
 30:8522896 s3c  S3C2410 Timer Tick
 33: 14 s3c  s3c24xx_hcd
 35:1993946 s3c  I2S PCM Stereo out
 37:202 s3c  S3c24xx SDIO host controller
 41:  46526 s3c  s3c2410_udc
 42:  0 s3c  ohci_hcd:usb1
 43:  37703 s3c  s3c2440-i2c
 48:  1 s3c-ext  Neo1973 Headphone Jack
 49:  1 s3c-ext  ar6000
 50:  1 s3c-ext  Neo1973 AUX button
 51:  3 s3c-ext  Neo1973 HOLD button
 53: 59 s3c-ext  pcf50633
 60:  2 s3c-ext  lis302dl
 70:  72362   s3c-uart0  s3c2440-uart
 71:  29404   s3c-uart0  s3c2440-uart
 73:  0   s3c-uart1  s3c2440-uart
 74:  2   s3c-uart1  s3c2440-uart
 76:  0   s3c-uart2  s3c2440-uart
 77: 20   s3c-uart2  s3c2440-uart
 79: 87 s3c-adc  s3c2410_action
 80:  21291 s3c-adc  s3c2410_action
Err:  0

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Re: Use gps for clock correction

2008-08-14 Thread Bastian Muck
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GPS would be perfect for updating time, cause the time sent is more 
exact then the times, you can get by any other way. What about ntpd, can 
it handle gps-data?

Stefan Schmidt schrieb:
| Hello.
|
| On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 23:48, Matt wrote:
| Isn't time available via GSM broadcasts?
|
| Sometimes. There is a standard for it, but not all operators have it 
enabled for
| it. AFAIK no german provider has it for example.
|
| If anyone have a provider which has this feature enabled and like to 
develop a
| patch just let us know.
|
| regards
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Re: How do you reply to an sms in 2007.2?

2008-07-28 Thread Bastian Muck
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reaper527 schrieb:
|
|
| Jeffrey Ratcliffe wrote:
| 2008/7/28 Kalle Happonen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
| Hit the pen (lower right) when you have the message open..
| It doesn't give you a warm feeling that that is going to work when the
| to: number field is blank.
|
| Regards
|
| Jeff
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|
| You have to put the number in if it doesn't show up. I think the number
| shows up if it is a known contact, and you don't reply to the copy of the
| message that is in unknown user.
|
But keep in mind that always the first number, which was stored for this 
contact, is chosen by default. I often sent a sms to a landline number.

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Re: Volume?

2008-07-26 Thread Bastian Muck
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Aaron Sowry schrieb:
| Timo Jyrinki wrote:
| 2008/7/24 Aaron Sowry [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
|   
| I would also like a solution to the echo that people hear when calling
| the phone - anyone found a fix for this?
| 
| I've not seen any post about having the echo fixed. It seems the
| discussion always stops at that point, or goes to another direction
| like about the mic volumes etc., which would sound like no-one has
| figured how to fix the echo issues.
|
| (not everyone has those, apparently depending on whether operator is
| also doing some echo cancellation, but a very large amount of Neo
| users do have the issues)
|
| -Timo
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| Right - perhaps something to add to the list of hardware issues?
|
| Everyone I have spoken to using the GTA02 handset has mentioned large
| amounts of echo when calling to/from another cellphone, landlines don't
| seem to exhibit the same behaviour in my experience. Disappointing, as
| it limits the device's usefulness as a phone which is a reasonably core
| funtionality...
|
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If you got the right values, then there is no problem. In the default 
config /usr/share/openmoko/gsmhandset.state the capturing volume is to 
low, so the other side can hardly hear you. If you raise this value too 
much, than the neo produces a lot echo on the other side. But my 
experience was, that with the right value there is no problem.

Look for:
control.5 {
~comment.access 'read write'
~comment.type INTEGER
~comment.count 1
~comment.range '0 - 127'
~iface MIXER
~name 'Mono Playback Volume'
~value 103
}

and change the value from 103 to 109. In my oppinion this is a very 
good value. Check it.

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Re: Volume?

2008-07-23 Thread Bastian Muck
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julien cubizolles schrieb:
| Le jeudi 17 juillet 2008 à 17:53 +0200, papa-piet a écrit :
| Hi,
| I didn't tested it yet but maybe this will help:
|
| http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=5t=170start=75#p3277
|
| I thinks it's the original one. I adjusted this one (increased the Mic2
| from 0 to 50) and nobody complains anymore when I call them...
|
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No, it is not the original one. I adjusted the mono-volume, so everyone 
can understand me but without echo. Before the adjustment, everyone 
complained, that i was not loud enough.

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Re: Freerunner @ pulster.eu Shop

2008-06-30 Thread Bastian Muck
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There were some, who got one. But I did not although I tried to order it 
just 3 hours after start. :-(
Now I have to wait until 25.

alexander schmidt schrieb:
| now it?s advance booking for the :-(  25.07
| someone got an confirmation for the 05.07 ???
|
| Ok. Thanks a lot.
| It's not the same page when you click on the home's picture or on the
| left menu ...
|
| Now I have to see if I can change my order ...
|
| Mike
|
| Christian Weßel a écrit :
| Just scroll down at http://www.pulster.de/index.htm?openmoko.htm
|
| Am Freitag, den 27.06.2008, 18:00 +0200 schrieb Mike Baroukh:
|
| with bag and headphones
|
| Where do you saw a bag ?
| Is there any options ? I didn't see where ...
|
| I also ordered mine but without the debug board I did not found ...
|
| thanks.
|
| Mike
|
| Bumbl a écrit :
|
| Christoph Pulster schrieb:
|
|
| what about the german distributors subscribed to this list
| any news on freerunners received?
|
|
|
| We start sales 07/05/2008 (5.July) and accept orders now.
| Price 299 eur incl. VAT. A cheap price means more owners.
| That's what the community needs.
|
| Christoph
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|
|
| Ordered mine too
| with bag and headphones
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Re: delay in recieving mails

2008-06-16 Thread Bastian Muck
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I subscribed the mailinglist sometimes around summer last year. But 
sometimes i see my own mails hours (I don't know how many) after sending 
them. My poll-intervall is 10 minutes i think.

Greetings Bastian
Peter J. Holzer schrieb:
| On 2008-06-15 23:26:56 +0200, arne anka wrote:
| i get every mail more or less 2h after it is sent (polling the 
account ist  
| set to 15min), though the archive  
| (http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-June/date.html)  
| displays them much earlier.
|
| Looks like most of the people with long delays (me too, btw) subscribed
| only recently.
|
| There are 1651 non-digested addresses subscribed to the list. I don't
| know the setup of the mail server, but if it tries to deliver to these
| addresses serially it is quite likely that it takes 2 hours to go through
| the whole list, especially if some of them are unreachable.
|
| So maybe the postmaster should do some tweaking.
|
| hp
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Re: Free Runner price vs iphone 3G price - Things clear

2008-06-11 Thread Bastian Muck
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You are totally right.At T-Mobile Germany you can reserve an iPhone 3G. 
You can only get it with an contract thant is far more expensive than 
comparable contracts of T-Mobile Germany. The cheapest (24 month-) 
contract Complete S  is 5 € more expensive than a comparable one. With 
this contract the price for the iPhone 3G with 8GB is249€.

So, now let's calculate:
5€ /month * 24 = 120 €
120+249 = 369 € = 574$

And this is not completle correct, cause in germany nearly every phone 
is subsidized. For my new contract without phone you can get between 150 
€ (233$) and 400 € (622$) at resellers. For a small contract like the 
one I used at the top it is around 200 €.

so we are around 569€ (884 $). I think this is everything but cheap.

Of course be careful with this calculation. But for a tendence is can be 
used.
And yet a little hint: the 16GB one will cost 499€ (776$) with contract 
(even with the expensive ones which go up to 90€(140$)/month).

I don't want to calculate the price of the iPhone, i just want to 
explain, that it does NOT cost 299$.

Greetings Bastian


Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) schrieb:
| On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:16:40 + Jorge . [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
babbled:
|
| Robert Taylor wrote:
| On the new Iphones, you HAVETO get a 2 year contract.  
| If you decide to quit you will pay a fee that will total up greater than
| the $600 the phone is worth.
| The first iPhone was released june 29/2007 and the first hacked that 
allow
| you to use it with any operator was announced on july 9/2007. It will 
happen
| again and unlocked iPhones 3G will be available, it does not matter 
if the
| first bunch are stolen, second hand or refurbished, it short time 
everyone
| will be able to buy an iPhone 3G without contract for almost the same 
price
| than it contract. Then we will be able to compare unsubsidized 
iphones with
| moko. until that moment lets end the flame :-) but if I am right the 
iPhone
| will be cheaper even unsubsidized. (although i would buy a moko anyway)
|
| not so simple. i think he business plan is changing because before this
| happened with the 1st iphone. people could buy without contract. it 
was assumed
| that the phone lock would force people to get a contract anyway and 
apple bore
| the risk by losing out on their cut of the carrier's revenue (att). 
so they
| sold it at $399 or $499 etc. and din't get any money from att after that.
|
| now it changes with the 3g iphone. you must sign up when you buy. sure 
- you
| can now take that phone, unlock it, re-sell it, but you are stuck with a
| contract you must keep paying for... with no phone to use on that contract
| unless you buy another phone - outright. there will be contract 
termination
| clauses if you want to cancel then and this will help cover the 
subsidy - of
| not completely cover it and then some.
|
| sure - some (a very few) phones will somehow be smuggled from the 
factory or
| from shipments before they get to an apple or att or other carrier 
store, and
| some may be sold under the counter without contract - but i 
guarantee that
| that likely is a business losing proposition for anyone as they get a 
rebate
| once they sign you on a contract. selling without a contract will mean 
hey have
| to jack up the price to cover the lost rebate money.
|
| as such - legal, legitimate and easy to get 3g iphones WITHOUT 
contract are
| going to be much more than $199.
|
| furthermore the freedom, there is a war for the smartphones market 
and a
| freephone have to be competitive  in price, not only in quality and
| philosophy.
| This is only true if you do what you are insisting on doing, comparing
| things that are not of equal value. While it is fine for consumers to
| be ignorant of these facts and actually think your argument is valid,
| it's not correct on this thread as you are clearly educated and
| understand the reality of the situation.
|
| not equal value? Moko, iPhone, iRiver, Blackberry... we are talking about
| smartphones, and money is money. If you buy an orange, and apple or a 
pinable
| you pay with money!! every fruit have advantages and disadvantages, 
but you
| pay anyway
|
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Re: No 3G for GTA03, 2G/EDGE only?

2008-06-10 Thread Bastian Muck
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
| On Tuesday 10 June 2008 13:46:59 Justyn Butler wrote:
| 2008/6/10 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
| i'd love a better cpu - better memory bus and much more. right now the
| only thing we have is gta03 - same cpu as freerunner etc etc. just
| different gsm subsystem (2g/edge) and no glamo (dumb 2442 fb), new case,
| added camera.
| Hi,
|
| Maybe this was a typo, but are you saying that the current plan is to
| ditch the existing GSM subsystem yet replace it with a modem that
| can't even handle 3G?
|
| In fact 2G/Edge is really fast (more like standard ADSL speeds over 
here in
| Europe).
I don't know where you come from, but I have 16 mbit over here (adsl) 
and in Big Cities you can get vdsl with 25 or 50 mbit.
|
| Also latency is the real pain for Cellurar communication.
|
| CU
| W
| That sounds crazy!
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Re: Debug Board v3 (GTA02) now available

2008-06-08 Thread Bastian Muck
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Flemming Richter Mikkelsen schrieb:
| On 6/6/08, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Ilja O. wrote:
| On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Christoph Pulster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|
| Hello community,
|
| may I add that I have the debug board now in my shop:
| http://www.pulster.de/engl/
| index.html?d__omdebug__Openmoko_Debug_Board_Version_v3747.htm
|
| It's version 3 belonging to GTA02 Freerunner...
|
|
| EUR 149.00
|
| Are you sure that that's not misprint?
| (Just a bit bigger extra charge when comparing with Freerunner, afaicu)
| Hi,
| I don't think that is an error: also if Openmoko sell it at 99$, it must
| to arrive in europe, than you must to add VAT (20% ?) that you have to
| add environmental taxes, and to add warranty (1 year at least).
|
| So is very possible it cost so. And in every case it cost less that all
| the debug board I never saw :)
|
| Do not confuse USD with EUR.
|  $99 ==  €61
| €149 == $238
|
I guess that there are many things which let the price raise.
61€ + 19% vat = 73€
Then you have to add shipping to germany. And in germany you have to 
grant a warranty of at least 24 month for technical equipment. Usually 
Christoph Pulster has fair prices.

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Re: FoxyTag

2008-06-02 Thread Bastian Muck

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Be careful with such software. In germany e.g. such Software is forbidden.

Greetings Bastian

Mathieu Rochette schrieb:
| Hello,
|
| I recently discover the foxytag project 
http://www.foxytag.com/en/presentation.html . I'm wondering if this 
apps could run on the freerunner, if so I'll definitly buy one :D
| amAze http://www.amazegps.com/welcome.php will soon integrate 
foxytag but I think the software requierement are the same as each apps 
is a java-based.

|
| I don't know if a jvm is available for openmoko, and I think that 
maybe java apps for mobile phone require specific library.

| can anyone tell me a bit about all this ?
|
| thx, Mathieu.
|
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Re: FoxyTag

2008-06-02 Thread Bastian Muck
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Ok, i'm not 100% correct. It seems that this technic is somewhere in a 
gray zone.Some people, e.g. a policeman who told me, think it would fall 
under §23 StVO. But this seems to be not clear.

See (german):
http://www.focus.de/auto/zubehoer/radar-warner_aid_28126.html
English translation:
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.focus.de%2Fauto%2Fzubehoer%2Fradar-warner_aid_28126.htmlhl=deie=UTF8sl=detl=en

Greetings Bastian


Pawel Kowalak schrieb:
| On 2008-06-02, at 18:47, Bastian Muck wrote:
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| forbidden.
|
| Are you sure about that? According to FAQ:
|
| Laws usually prohibit radars detectors and system that perturb their  
| functions. But FoxyTag is not a radar detector. It simply gives  
| information according to your current position.
|
| For example in Poland radar detectors are also forbidden, but almost  
| every GPS navigation system has speed cameras database.
|
| BR, Pawel
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Re: My experience with the Freerunner

2008-05-30 Thread Bastian Muck

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ian douglas schrieb:
| Thanks for your thoughts, Marco.
|
|
| Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
| I agree, and we can't ask you more than testing like you're doing.
|
| As of today I have 165 minutes remaining of my 1,000 minute TMobile 
SIM card, so I'll have to restock it to do any more tests. I think 
TMobile still has their 1000-minutes for $100 special going on, so 
I'll stock up later this evening.
Wow, phoning is really expensive at your location. When you do some more 
tests it might be cheaper to make holidays in e.g. germany. I pay 30 € / 
month and can call  T-Mobile and  landline as much as I want to. If I 
had a Freerunner then I would support you.  But there is a little 
problem with this. :-(

|
| The only thing I'm asking to you, Ian, is to report the GSM signal 
strength in your testing zone, just to complete the informations you've 
already given.

|
| Fair enough. I'll report on that when I get home as my office building 
is probably more shielded than my apartment. I live near the beach, no 
mountains to really speak of, and my ATT phone, which was always 
showing EDGE connectivity at my old apartment always shows 
full-bandwidth 3G at the new apartment, which is partly why I wanted 
to do some testing around my old apartment.

|
| Anyway, I'll appreciate so much if another one of the lucky 
Freerunner owners could make a battery test (also just a standby one) 
in a place with low GSM coverage...

|
| As soon as my Freerunner is back to full-charge, I'll try to emulate 
Einstein's standby tests with all 4 components (GSM, WiFi, Bluetooth, 
GPS) turned on, then off, and report my own findings. I'll try to do it 
with both SIM cards, if that makes any difference, and without any SIM 
at all -- I'm curious if having no SIM card will emulate low GSM 
coverage with the phone trying to constantly register on a network.

|
| Since I have 5,000 evening/weekend minutes with ATT, once I fill up 
my TMobile card again, I'll take my Freerunner and Blackjack 2 on 
errands this weekend, see if I can spend more than 6 hours connecting 
the two phones again in varying locations around Los Angeles.

|
| If anyone else has suggestions on how to test battery life, I'd love 
to hear them. Especially from Michael and Steve, as they can probably 
direct us a little better on what kinds of real-life scenario testing 
they'd like us to help in.

|
| I'm going to see if I can write a CPU-intensive script to run on the 
Freerunner too, see if I can time how long the battery will last with 
the CPU running 100% ... again, just a curiosity.

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Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Bastian Muck

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3,5mm, too

Joerg Reisenweber schrieb:
| Hi community!
| A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have
| A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to 
buy a

| cheap adapter if you want to use your old headphones, (the way like it's
| for GTA01/02)
| or
| B) classic 3.5mm headphones Walkman(R) connector, where you have to 
DIY an

| adapter for any standard cellphone headset? (or does anybody know of 3.5mm
| headSET standards or adapters?)
|
|
| please hurry to vote, we have to make a decision. Thanks
|
| cheers
| jOERG
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Re: multi-tutch?

2008-05-30 Thread Bastian Muck

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No, the problem ist that the Freerunner does not have a multitouch 
display. Some developers just try to make one out of it :-)


Rahul Joshi schrieb:
| If I am to understand this thread discussion correctly, does it mean 
there is no public algo for multi-point touch sensing yet??
| With so much of work done on projects like MS Surface, iPhone, the 
Jeff Han stuff.. and recently HTC Diamond, I took it for granted that it 
must already be there among the large resource pool of opensource 
developers.

|
| Rahul J
|
|
| On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Ben Lau [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

|
| On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Joerg Reisenweber 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|  Am Do  29. Mai 2008 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

|  Hi Joerg,
|  as it seems that my mail did not reach the community list (I am 
not a
|  subscriber, just monitoring the archives) may I ask you directly 
the question

|  regarding multi tutch :-) . See below:
| 
| 
|  Hi all,
|  if the geometric average point is returned if multiple points 
are touched
|  wouldn't it be possible to have a fake multi touch, e.g., by 
doing the

|  following:
| 
|  Press point A
|  - Vector A is returned
|  Additionally press desired point B
|  - X = (A+B)/2 is returned
|  - calculate B = 2*X-A
| 
|  Questions:
|  Would this be managable?
|  What time difference would be required between first and second 
(and
|  third ...) touch, to recognize such a multi-touch action and 
reliable

|  distinguish it from a single touch at position X?
| 
|  And one more comment: If that would work you could also detect 
multi-touch
|  gestures (even if limited), e.g., use the first point statically 
(maybe a
|  focus centre) and handle the second point dynamically (maybe for 
zooming in

|  and out).
| 
| 
|  Boris
| 
| 
|  there are two resistors in the touchpad, one for X and one for 
Y. We only see
|  them changing on a touch, thus giving us the coords. A 
concurrent second
|  touch just changes the R values even more, but we get no info 
about whether
|  we touched a second point or we moved the finger. So what you 
suggest is a
|  gesture recognition. Things become nasty because even the 
geometric middle
|  isn't true but depends on pressure of one to pressure of other 
touchpoint

|  etc.
|  You really get too few info out of the device to do anything 
reasonable with
|  it beyond singletouch (at least that's the way it is now. I plan 
to see
|  whether we can exploit dynamic pulse response of this design to 
get some
|  additional info. Same way you're testing cat5-cable for breaks. 
Don't hold
|  your breath though, chances are bad. And it's not on top of my 
todo-list)

| 
|  cheers
|  jOERG
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| Two-finger input with a standard touch screen
| http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1294239
|
| This paper introduces a method to detect two fingers using a
| standard touch screen. I haven't ready it deeply so I can not say is
| it applicable on OpenMoko platform , but I think it is worth to study.
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Re: multi-tutch?

2008-05-29 Thread Bastian Muck

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I have a little idea. Imagine, you put your finger somewhere on the 
right side of the screen. The average point is also somewhere at the 
right side. When you put another finger e.g. at the left side the 
average point jumps somewhere to the middle. This jump is where we 
could guess, that at least two fingers touch the screen. You can't use  
features  like zooming on iPhone, but it should be possible to switch 
scrolling into something else. So with one finger you could scroll the 
screen an with two fingers you could move something.

The only problem ist the accuracy of it.

Greetings Bastian

Joerg Reisenweber schrieb:
| Am Do  29. Mai 2008 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
| Hi Joerg,
| as it seems that my mail did not reach the community list (I am not a
| subscriber, just monitoring the archives) may I ask you directly the 
question

| regarding multi tutch :-) . See below:
|
| Hi all,
| if the geometric average point is returned if multiple points are touched
| wouldn't it be possible to have a fake multi touch, e.g., by doing the
| following:
| Press point A
| - Vector A is returned
| Additionally press desired point B
| - X = (A+B)/2 is returned
| - calculate B = 2*X-A
|
| Questions:
| Would this be managable?
| What time difference would be required between first and second (and
| third ...) touch, to recognize such a multi-touch action and reliable
| distinguish it from a single touch at position X?
| And one more comment: If that would work you could also detect 
multi-touch

| gestures (even if limited), e.g., use the first point statically (maybe a
| focus centre) and handle the second point dynamically (maybe for 
zooming in

| and out).
|
| Boris
|
|
| there are two resistors in the touchpad, one for X and one for Y. We 
only see

| them changing on a touch, thus giving us the coords. A concurrent second
| touch just changes the R values even more, but we get no info about 
whether

| we touched a second point or we moved the finger. So what you suggest is a
| gesture recognition. Things become nasty because even the geometric 
middle

| isn't true but depends on pressure of one to pressure of other touchpoint
| etc.
| You really get too few info out of the device to do anything 
reasonable with

| it beyond singletouch (at least that's the way it is now. I plan to see
| whether we can exploit dynamic pulse response of this design to get some
| additional info. Same way you're testing cat5-cable for breaks. Don't hold
| your breath though, chances are bad. And it's not on top of my todo-list)
|
| cheers
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Re: A disturbance in the force?

2008-05-29 Thread Bastian Muck

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I guess, that it is a driver issue. The open drivers have to be done by 
reverse engeneering (at least until somwhere round february) and the 
proprietary drivers have many bugs. I hope things will get better since 
the documentation has been made open by AMD.


Greetings Bastian

Marc-Olivier Barre schrieb:
| On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 6:30 PM, Ian Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Once today, while my FreeRunner was plugged in on USB, I tapped the 
screen

| to wake it up, and it came up, but all the pixels in text were jiggly, as
| though the screen were being refreshed at the wrong rate. When I 
called up

| the qwerty keyboard, it appeared quite scrambled.
| Sadly I didn't have a video camera trained on it at the time, and by the
| time I whipped out my pocket video camera, it had gone into suspend mode;
| when I hit the power button to awaken it, the problem was gone!
|
| I know it's not my eyesight :-) This really happened. But only once.
|
| I'll make sure I have the video camera handy in case it comes back,
| although, recording a 640x480 video of the freerunner will be pretty 
grainy
| and probably won't accurately show the problem (due to things like 
refresh

| rates)... Sigh.
|
| I think I see what you mean.
|
| the same thing happens on my Asus laptop (ATI X700 graphic card) when
| I switch from the console to X. Sometimes the screen appears like what
| you'll get when using the wrong refresh rate on a CRT screen.
| switching again to and from a console makes it go away. Never knew
| what was causing it though.
|
| Driver issue or X issue ?...
|
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Re: My second battery life test with the freerunner in standby

2008-05-28 Thread Bastian Muck

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I think he would not have understood dutch either since he comes from 
germany ;-)


David Samblas Martinez schrieb:
| No need to be Shakespeare here :)
| I understand you and I like a lot what you are saying.
| I appreciate a lot your effort to translate your thoughts and 
experience to English, Dutch is a little out of my languages knowledges.
| Any report from real world add fresh air on this list like  an open 
windows (what an oxymoron)
| When the CPU will be able to down and up his Hz depends of system 
demands it will be a lot of power saving extra.
| I will like to know how the diferents components(wifi, gps...) affects 
on the battery drainage
| and a music with headset test  and ...and ...and..I want my freeruner 
to do it myself ;)!!!

|
|
| --- El *mié, 28/5/08, einstein /[EMAIL PROTECTED]/* escribió:
|
| De: einstein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Asunto: My second battery life test with the freerunner in standby
| Para: List for Openmoko community discussion 
community@lists.openmoko.org

| Fecha: miércoles, 28 mayo, 2008 11:18
|
| Hi,
|
| the day is over an the freerunner turns off after 16hours. I 
charged it

| over night, 7 hours long. So i only turn on the gsm. I don't use the
| Freerunner often. A short gps session of 15min an some sms, one short
| call, one missed call! And in the afternoon i wake up the freerunner
| every 30min to check the state of the device.
|
| I am supriesed of this. yesterday i think 14 hours are possible.
|
| Well, i think all the developers do a great job, and there are many
| opertunitys for more standby time.
|
| So now i go to bed, in 7 hours my night is
|  over.
|
| Greets
|
| Einstein
|
| PS: sorry for the my bad english...
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Re: My blog, Freerunner FIrst Impressions and some pics

2008-05-24 Thread Bastian Muck

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Now it works,
well done.

Kevin Dean schrieb:
| My VPS provider was upgrading the hardware and decided to upgrade my
| plan because of the interruption. I thank you for the offer, but I
| don't think it'll be needed, it seems stuff is loading again now. :)
|
| -Kevin
|
| On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Kosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Kevin, David, Marco, Bastian,
|
| I just clicked the link again and I got the page nice and easy.
| If you want me to mirror it somewhere else just let me know.
|
| Kevin, I have a nice server if you want to use it. It'll be an
| honor to host your stuff.
|
| Cheers
|
| Kosa
|
| - Un mundo mejor es posible -
|
| Bastian Muck escribió:
| I have the same Problem. :-(
|
| Marco Trevisan (Treviño) schrieb:
| | Kevin Dean wrote:
| | Anyway, the writeup can be read at:
| |
| | It's about a day (since it has been posted on planet) that I can't
| connect to your site! :(
| |
|
|
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Re: My blog, Freerunner FIrst Impressions and some pics

2008-05-23 Thread Bastian Muck

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I have the same Problem. :-(

Marco Trevisan (Treviño) schrieb:
| Kevin Dean wrote:
| Anyway, the writeup can be read at:
|
| It's about a day (since it has been posted on planet) that I can't 
connect to your site! :(

|

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Re: Europe Distribution

2008-05-22 Thread Bastian Muck

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He is first official distributor. At least this is said at 
http://www.reuters.com . (Sorry for no link, but I'm not sure if I am 
allowed to post.)


Greetings Bastian

Sebastian Billaudelle schrieb:
| pulster.eu seems to be the first OFFICIAL distributor in europe!
| Freerunner - 299€
|
| cheers
| Sebastian
|
| Am Donnerstag, den 22.05.2008, 16:53 +0200 schrieb Steven Le Roux:
|
| On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Joachim Steiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

|
| Steven Le Roux wrote:
|  What about Europe distribution ;). Let's come back to the 
subject :)

|
|
| well.. i think that was already answered somewhere in the thread in
| other words, but here my short version:
|
| afaik there will be 2 possibilities:
|
| - order at the openmoko us based webshop.
|  - pay in us$
|  - pay the (to europe quite high but not unusual) higher shipping fee
|  - if not in the us: pay the VAT/sales tax of the target country on
| recieving the package to the ups guy (usually in cash)
|  - use a CC (currently JCB, VISA, MASTER. _no_ AMEX afaik)
|
| - order at a local distributor
|  - pay the local currency
|  - pay for shipping if you do not pick it up yourself
|  - pay the regional tax/vat of your county directly with the 
device and

| shipping
|
| so the bottomline is: us customers as well as worldwide can very 
easily
| order directly at openmoko. but if you do not want to have the 
hassle of

|  transatlantic shipping, different currencies etc or want local
| warranty, buy at a local distributor.
|
| i guess due to the shipping costs its cheaper and less hassle to 
order

| single devices directly at a distributor. also these could have
| different payment methods, but thats their decision.
|
|
| kind regards
|
| --
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| Openmoko Central Services
|
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| To resume, there are some dsitributors :
|
| France : Bearstech
| Germany : TRIsoft
|
| we don't already know conditions, and prices with Bearstech, but 
TRIsoft seems to be arrested to 350€ incl VAT (plus fee's shipment)

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| See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html for more 
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Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions

2008-05-20 Thread Bastian Muck

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Ian Darwin schrieb:
| I'd still very much like to see a way to turn it off, so it works the 
same for letters as for numbers. It's annoying 90% of the time because 
most of the person or street names I need to enter into Contacts are not 
going to be listed.  I promise not to write my next 850-page book on my 
Neo, so word lookup is of limited use.  I suspect that Contacts, Todo 
and Calendar is the most common use case for most people, and that 
writing normal text is the least common for most people.
I think I will write further more SMS than saving contacts. And the 
texts in calendar are not this long, at least in mine.


Greetings Bastian
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Re: Europe Distribution

2008-05-19 Thread Bastian Muck

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Your question was answered 27 minutes before you wrote to the mailinglist.
see: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-May/017531.html

I guess somewhere in the last week of june (when shipped via air). But 
this is just my guess!


Greetings Bastian

Samuel Melrose schrieb:
| Oh right, well thank you =].
|
| You say selling, sorry to take your words so seriously... but are they 
already on sale? I've heard a few people say that they are on sale in 
the US, but I've seen nothing. Has anyone got anything on this please?

|
| I know its probably on the mailing list somewhere, just can't for the 
life of me find a definite answer.

|
| Thanks very much,
| Samuel Melrose
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|
| On 19 May 2008, at 17:50, enaut wrote:
|
| Samuel Melrose schrieb:
| Hey everyone,
| I noticed on the wiki that there was some discussion about a
| distribution center in Europe to make it easier for people over here
| to purchase Neo phones (well, I'm sure I remember reading it
| somewhere, unless it was a very weird dream, but nevermind =S). If I
| am correct, it said that it was looked into but came over as too
| expensive? Or not viable for the company?
|
| 
http://www.pr-inside.com/openmoko-signs-deal-with-german-distributor-r384865.htm

| - thats pretty official I think :)
|
| plus there are multiple webstores selling the Freerunner.
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Re: GPRS IP Networking

2008-05-19 Thread Bastian Muck
What about the Email-Push-Service. I don't know if this is provider 
specific. T-Mobile Germany offers this service for about 5 €/month with 
free transfer. I don't know how it works, but the name makes me think, 
the provider pushes the mail to the phone.

Any ideas?

Greetings Bastian

Steven Kurylo schrieb:

Erm, you say that SMS is free, or at-least receiving them is. Maybe if you
could implement such an application, you could get your server to SMS your
phone when you have important messages with a special trigger code, and then
you're phone would connect and download the messages?
Not sure if this is possible, or if it would be cheaper / waste of time...
But if you were going with text messages, it'd be expensive to fit anything
more than a small message on?



Yes, I was thinking I'd put a filter on my imap server which would
send an SMS when messages come in.  When the phone receives the SMS it
would check for new mail.  It had crossed my mind to stuff message
headers into the sms too.  Then you could decide if its worth
downloading the full message over gprs.

I just have a bunch of ideas in my head, though it does look like I
might have to make a imap client first as I don't see on yet :-)



  



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Re: Seat in embedded Linux training session offered to a contributor

2008-05-18 Thread Bastian Muck

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Michael Opdenacker schrieb:
| On 05/16/2008 04:28 PM, Bastian Muck wrote:
| Thanks für the two links. But at the time I have to scratch money
| together for the freerunner. If I took part, I had to take away money
| from the Freerunner budget. And this is more important for me at the
| time. But next year everything is better cause I think to get my
| diploma this year. Then I shouldn't have this Problem.
| I understand... You could apply again next year... we're doing that for
| each session we organize.
|
| :-)
|
| Michael.
Great, then i guess, I will be there :-)
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Re: Dash GPS personal nav device (uses OpenMoko) opens API

2008-05-16 Thread Bastian Muck

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Of course,

you are right. I just amused about this sentence.

Thomas Szukala schrieb:
| Bastian Muck schrieb:
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| That's very interresting. The site sais:
| Dash includes maps for the United States (Continental US, Hawaii and 
Alaska) only. It will not work in Canada, Mexico, Europe or any location 
outside the United States.
| Since when are Canada, Mexico and Europe in the United States? I 
thought I would live far away from the USA (Germany). ;-)

|
| equaly weird when you have a flight from Europe (Germany) to Canada 
(Vancouver) and you have to change planes in Chicago. Canada is listed 
as a national departure not international... So I have get off the 
international arrivals and get through the customs to check in to US??? 
my globe recently said Canada and US were two different nations ;-)

|
| anyway back to Topic.
|
| the Dash is really an impressive gadget. Id like to have one or at 
least see some process in implementing routing with openstreetmap vector 
data.

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Re: Seat in embedded Linux training session offered to a contributor

2008-05-16 Thread Bastian Muck

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Thanks für the two links. But at the time I have to scratch money 
together for the freerunner. If I took part, I had to take away money 
from the Freerunner budget. And this is more important for me at the 
time. But next year everything is better cause I think to get my diploma 
this year. Then I shouldn't have this Problem.


Greetings Bastian

enaut schrieb:
| Bastian Muck schrieb:
| Sounds interresting, but as a student (from germany) I don't have the
| money for the journey and less for the hotel and food. But I think,
| there will be others who do have.
|
| Greetings Bastian
| As a student you may be interested in services like www.couchsurfing.com
| or www.hostpitalityclub.org. Both sites are basicly the same. they are
| about getting to know people and other cultures by hosting some members
| for free... I never used it as a guest but I hosted several people.
| However there are the costs for the flight andthe food remaining... to
| optimize them use  www.mitfahrgelegenheit.de or hitchhike ;) last time i
| Hitchhiked in France I made it from south germany to paris in 8 hours
| and to Spain in 2 days.
|
| so money should really be no problem. ;)
|
| greetings enaut
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Re: Funny Dialer

2008-05-15 Thread Bastian Muck

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Great work so far, keep on.

Greetings Bastian

[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
| All,
|
| I've got my sort-of, kind-of working rotary dialer (with source) here:
| http://www.cibomahto.com/?p=192
|
| It's pretty ugly and the physics are a little buggy, but it's a 
start.  I will set it up on projects.openmoko.org when I get a chance.

|
| I haven't really done my due diligence in researching the matter, but 
has anyone made Python bindings to access the system resources yet?  Or, 
perhaps it is as simple as talking over DBUS?  For the moment, I am 
controlling the vibrator by writing to the LED device, though I suspect 
that is not the proper way to go about it.

|
| Cheers,
| Matt
|
| -
| Matt Mets
| http://cibomahto.com
|
|  
| I love retro stuff.

|
|
|  
| Michael and I were talking about sampleapps for beginners and I 
thought it would be cool to

|
| to do a “hello world” dialer.get it?  I know kinda dorky.
|
|
|  
| Doing a remix of the old rotary dialer asa “hello world” app  on the 
neo would be a neat hack.

|
|
|  
| Neo would approve.

|
|
|  
|

|
| From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Breakable

| Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 5:06 AM
| To: community@lists.openmoko.org
| Subject: Funny Dialer
|
|
|
|  
| I am positive you shouldhave to turn the dialer manually for most user 
friendliness :D
| While hilarious this could become a killer feature to make a phone for 
thetechnologically challenged.

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Re: Dash GPS personal nav device (uses OpenMoko) opens API

2008-05-15 Thread Bastian Muck

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That's very interresting. The site sais:
Dash includes maps for the United States (Continental US, Hawaii and 
Alaska) only. It will not work in Canada, Mexico, Europe or any location 
outside the United States.
Since when are Canada, Mexico and Europe in the United States? I thought 
I would live far away from the USA (Germany). ;-)


AVee schrieb:
| On Wednesday 14 May 2008 07:14, Ron K. Jeffries wrote:
| Dash GPS  personal nav device (uses OpenMoko) opens API
|
| It's sorta funny, but nobody here says a word about Dash,
| the Freerunner's red-haired step-sister device, OEM'd
| from FIC as I understand things.
|
| One of the reasons might be:
| 
http://presales.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/presales.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=122

|
| It's not just that maps aren't there, they don't seem to really care 
about the
| european market either. With a bit of effort they could be selling 
those with
| map data from all kinds of suppliers, or at least with support for the 
data
| formats of popular european maps. Frankly, it seems to be more about 
selling

| the service plan anyway.
|
| I'd rather wait for the device thats able to make phone calls as well...
|
| AVee
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Re: Dash GPS personal nav device (uses OpenMoko) opens API

2008-05-15 Thread Bastian Muck

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Hmm,  I don't think so. I can't stand George W. or at least dislike him 
more than our Mrs. Merkel. I think the EU is an (friendly) opposition to 
the USA to do a little balance (too little IMO).


Greetings Bastian

Robin Paulson schrieb:
| 2008/5/16 Bastian Muck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
| That's very interresting. The site sais:
| Dash includes maps for the United States (Continental US, Hawaii and
| Alaska) only. It will not work in Canada, Mexico, Europe or any location
| outside the United States.
| Since when are Canada, Mexico and Europe in the United States? I 
thought I

| would live far away from the USA (Germany). ;-)
|
| you don't keep up on politics much, do you? since nafta,
| globalisation, the war on terror and bush's friendliness with blair,
| all the above are parts of the us. did no-one tell you?
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Re: clarification re easy OpenMoko updating for average consumer

2008-05-15 Thread Bastian Muck

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I think the user should decide, wheter the update should be done at once 
or later. Of cource an advise of batterystate should be done.


Greetings Bastian

ian douglas schrieb:
| Mo Abrahams wrote:
| How about it downloads the updates whenever wifi is available (battery
| or not), and then (if set to update automatically) updates once plugged
| in to charge, and if set to manual requires battery power to be above a
| certain percentage.
|
| I'd say that if GSM downloads are going to be slow, then downloads 
should also occur if the phone is plugged into a PC and network bridging 
is set up -- not everyone will have a wifi router.

|
| Since the updates will require a certain amount of time and battery 
power, the update should only happen once the battery power is above a 
certain level whether plugged in for charging or not.

|
| For example, if the battery was completely drained, and the user plugs 
it into a PC, if the charger can't keep up with the drain of installing 
updates, then updates shouldn't happen just because it's plugged into a 
charger.

|
| Thoughts?
|
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Re: Root password and ssh?

2008-05-14 Thread Bastian Muck

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I don't know why, but it seems, as this is just done at this time. The 
playlist of the mediaplayer is stored in the directory of root.


Greetings Bastian

Bradley Hook schrieb:
| I'd have to ask why your music files and images are owned and readable
| only by root. Doesn't make much sense. You don't run your media player
| as root, do you? Config files should be chmod 640 to root, and certain
| executables as well, but content and such should be in the arena of
| normal users. And you WANT to inconvenience your users if they are
| trying to do something as insecure as logging in over ssh as root. I do
| hope that OM isn't set up to run everything as root by default...
|
| Mo Abrahams wrote:
| | Except for if music files, images etc.ÿ on the phone are owned by root,
| | in which case we wouldn't be able to access them via ssh.
| |
| | On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 09:54 -0500, Stephen Shelton wrote:
| | Why not disable login as root? Seems pretty simple, and IMO a good
| practice in
| | general. I assume logging in as foo user works as normal...?
| |
| |
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Re: Alarmclock puzzle

2008-05-13 Thread Bastian Muck

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By the way, when you shake the Freerunner, does it wake up if in suspend?

Arne Kristian Jansen schrieb:
| Or you could use the accelerometer to windup the clock/snooze. Just 
shake it two times to snooze for 1 min more or something like it. And 
after each snooze you have to shake more and more to get the same 
snoozetime, i.e. for the second snooze you'd have to shake say four 
times to add one minute.

|
|
| - Arne Kristian
|
|
|
|
| 2008/5/13 Steven ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

|
| I have a similar problem, but came up with a slightly different
| approach.  I tend to snooze too much, so mine focuses on the snooze
| button.
|
| You'd start with 1 big snooze button that snoozes for x minutes.
| After x minutes, alarm sounds again, but there are now two or three
| buttons. Maybe you have to hit them in a particular order. Maybe pick
| 2 that are the right color. Snoozes for another x minutes.
| Next, has a screen with 9 buttons (big enough to use with fingers).
| The buttons flash (maybe play a sound) in a pattern. You have to
| repeat the pattern to snooze again.
| Etc
|
| Have snooze time configurable. User enters comma-separated list. Last
| number in list is repeated. Ie 10,9,5
|
| What do you think?
|
| -Steven
|
| On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 7:49 AM, Alexander Frøyseth
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

|  Hello again
|   I just have an idea for an nice addon or software (call it what 
you want)

|  to the alarmclock
|   Okey, let me tell a little story from real life.
|   Every day when I go to school, I have to wake up, and now I have 2
|  alarmclocks, but still I manage to oversleep. Soo what I was 
thinking about
|  was that I have to solve a puzzle to turn the alarmclock off, 
and not just

|  push a button. One possibility is a 4 bits jigsaw puzzle like this:
| 
|  
http://www.bimbambanana.com/index.php?p=Puzzle-alarm-clock-cool-gadgetsside=visProdprod_id=21
|   another, and perhaps an more easy to make is that the screen 
shows fours
|  digits that you have to click in right order to turn it off. 
Perhaps like an

|  antibot test on websites.
| 
|   I am more as an web programmer, so I isent so good to program 
software.

| 
|   NOTE: You have to have the choice to turn this on and off when 
you sets the

|  clock
|   Hope that someone think this is a good idea, and tries to 
program one.

| 
|   Alexander Frøyseth
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Re: questions for steve regarding group purchases

2008-05-11 Thread Bastian Muck

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For the customer/community member paypal should not be a risk. For OM it 
is in fact a risk cause of possible misuse of the customer protection. 
In a german journal (i think the best it journal) there was a big 
article about the potential misuse of the customer protection. I would 
use palpal, althougth I don't really like paypal, cause I don't have any 
credit card.

I think the OM team should keep this in mind.

Greetings Bastian

steve schrieb:
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| I’m not sure about the paypal. A long while back when I suggested 
paypal there was a backlash from

|
| concerned people who thought that paypal was evil because it was 
American. I’ll check on that.

|
| ( not the evil part, the paypal part)
|
|  
|
| WRT to one shipment, if you order a 10 pack and debug board  I would 
be surprised it was split into two

|
| shipments.
|
|  
|
|  
|

| -
|
| *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Shawn

| *Sent:* Friday, May 09, 2008 6:24 AM
| *To:* List for Openmoko community discussion
| *Subject:* Re: questions for steve regarding group purchases
|
|  
|

| Hi steve,
|
| thanks for the updates. I have a few additional questions on group 
purchase:

|
| Can we pay the group payment via paypal?
| If a member of our group wants to purchase the debug board, can we 
order that at the same time (and have it shipped together), or should he 
order that on his own?

|
| Thanks!
|  . . .shawn
|
| - Original Message 
| From: steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org
| Sent: Thursday, May 8, 2008 9:20:38 PM
| Subject: RE: questions for steve regarding group purchases
|
| The 10 pack will have to be ordered by one person. It will ship to that
| persons location.
|
| Now, how will people arrange to do this? I thought long and hard about 
this.

| And then I realized that some people will find one way, one guy pays and
| others promise to pay him. Some people will find another way, half up 
front

| and half on delivery. Some people will do contracts. Some people will just
| choose to do a single phone.
|
|
|
| -Original Message-
| From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Robin Paulson

| Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 6:50 PM
| To: List for Openmoko community discussion
| Subject: questions for steve regarding group purchases
|
| steve, what methods are being considered by openmoko for group purchasing?
|
| most of us do now know the other members of a group and would like
| some security that the group organised is not able to run off with the
| money - are openmoko willing to engage in purchases via escrow agents?
| or is it a case of 'sort it our amongst yourselves, all we want is a c
| card number or paypal account'? if the latter is the case, is there
| anything/anyone openmoko or anyone else here can recommend for making
| sure things go smoothly?
|
| thanks
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Funny Dialer

2008-05-11 Thread Bastian Muck

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I talked to some friends and one of them said: My mom (73 years old) 
would use a mobile phone if it had a dial plate! First we laughed about 
this, but in fact i think its a funny idea. I guess it shouldn't be a 
big deal to make a theme, which could do this, is it?


Greetings Bastian
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Re: Software

2008-05-07 Thread Bastian Muck

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IMO this seems to be a good way. Is there an entry for this in the wiki, 
yes?


thomasg schrieb:
| I think there should be a daemon handling this tasks.
| As the RTC-alarm can only be once (every day), the daemon would have 
to handle this to allow multiple alarms/wakeups.
| The daemon would have to act like this: first set the RTC-alarm - 
after waking up check for the scheduled event and decide if it's the 
correct day and run the tasks. After that decide what's the next event 
and set the RTC-alarm-time to the new time (or leave it as it is in case 
it was the wrong day).
| The daemon would/should have its own event database that can be filled 
via a dbus-interface.

|
| As the RTC-alarm might be different from device to device it might be 
the clean way to let the odeviced handle the alarm-setting 
(communication between the two daemons via dbus) and just have a 
dbus-interface for that in the new daemon.

|
| That is at least what I imagine.
|
| On 5/7/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

|
| Am Mi  7. Mai 2008 schrieb David Samblas Martinez:
|
|  And why not implement a execute command option in
|  the PIM Task Manager(Schedule)?
|  If the neo will be able to wake up to play a sound
|  and/or buzz, I suppose it can execute a shell command
|  and sleep again when finished.
|
|
| The interesting bit of this is to distinguish between dates that 
just had wake
| up the device, so we may go to sleep again immediately after 
execution, and
| dates that happen to be executed while user intentionally 
switched on the

| device already so we mustn't go to sleep afterwards.
|
| /j
|
|
|
|
|  (maybe this was already implemented/planned, isn't
|  it?)
|  --- Ryan Prior [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

| 
|   Perhaps phone-cron needs to be written, to take
|   anacron to the level of
|   task flexibility required for modern cell phones.
|   Cron and anacron are
|   crusty old beasts - we need something fresh and
|   sharp.
|  
|   On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Bastian Muck
|   [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|  
| Anachron can unfortunately run tasks once a day,
|which you can read at the
| Drawback. I guess that tasks, with a
|remember-funktions canot really be
| realized with anachron.
| I don't know if there is a timer, which can send
|an wakeup-interupt, but
| when it exists the next upcoming task could be
|searched an the time could be
| passed to the timer. Does anybody knows of such
|timer?
| If not i think it should be integrated in gta03.
|
| Greetings Bastian
|
| Torfinn Ingolfsen schrieb:
| | Hi,
| |
| | On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Mike Baroukh
|[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| |  About this, I was wondering if there was
|possibility to have cron like
| |  tasks even if the phone is suspended ?
| |
| | You could always run something like anacron{1]
|on the phone. As long
| | as yoy don't keep you phone suspended for a day
|or more that would
| | work. :-)
| |
| | References:
| | 1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anacron
|
|   
|   
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Re: Is anyone else getting 2 or 3 copies of every mails?

2008-05-07 Thread Bastian Muck

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I use Thunderbird, too. A filter checks if the mail is from a 
mailinglist and sorts it automatically into a folder. But I never had 
problems with double mails.


Greeting Bastian

Jose Luis Perez Diez schrieb:
| El Wednesday, 7 de May de 2008 01:56:16 ian douglas va escriure:
| As I've mentioned already though, the copies I'm getting are all
| duplicates from the mailing list -- I got two copies of your message,
| but both copies were only sent to the mailing list. None of the extra
| copies I've received today had me personally listed as a To: or CC:
| recipient, and the Message-Id fields are always similar so I'm not
| getting BCC'd copies.
|
| I quite confident that it's an issue with the mailing list.
|
|
| I get the messages of the list using 2 accounts this one and a gmail 
one, I

| have never seen true duplicates.
|   
| I suspect the problem is Thunderbird reclaiming two or more copies of the

| message usually after a bad connect to the server. Does Thunderbird keep
| logs of the connects?
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Re: OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM))

2008-05-07 Thread Bastian Muck

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Soulnds like a good idea, even if i preferred Eclipse more ;-). I don't 
have any problems with Eclipse and use it for Java, PHP and C.
But if you prefer Netbeans and you want to write the plugin it's over to 
you. So when it's finished I will install Netbeans, too.


Greetings Bastian

Lally Singh schrieb:
| Nah, I'd been planning on getting haskell up for OM.  They already
| have a basic ARM target for ghc, and there's already a haskell-GTK
| mapping.
|
| But, now that we're talking about development environments,  who'd be
| interested in using an IDE for developing OM?
|
| I was thinking about putting together a Netbeans plugin to dev for it.
|  I'm wondering:
| 1. anyone want to use such a thing?
| 2. anyone wanna help?
|
| I'll be using Mac OS X  solaris personally (probably more of the
| latter), but if someone'd be up for testing it on Linux, I'd be happy
| to support that too.  A nice little basis to create wizards for all
| kinds of OM applications, plugins, etc. sounds like good community
| open-source fun.
|
| I'd consider this my first big contribution to OM, so I'm happy to do it.
|
| Please, no religious wars on Java/NetBeans, etc.  Feel free to use the
| work for your own desires after, but I've been through enough dev
| cycles on other platforms that I'm feeling pretty firm on this.
|
| If you say 'Eclipse', I'm going to traceroute you from a cell modem in
| my car, and bring a baseball bat with me.
|
| On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Oliver Uvman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

| Jesus! I thought I was the only one wanting to program CL on the OM.
|  I've had lots of interesting ideas on how to use a gesture-based
|  interface for writing CL, which could work only thanks to the sparse
|  syntax, and plan to make that some of the first things I program for
|  my OM. Hooray!
|
|  /Oliver Uvman
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Re: OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM))

2008-05-07 Thread Bastian Muck

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I don't know how fast your computer is, but i never had performance 
issues. Even in a VMWare-Image my Eclipse worked very fine (and I don't 
think I'm a slow hacker). The only thing, which can be slow is the 
code-completion. But this can be deaktivated easily.


Greetings Bastian

Jeremy List schrieb:
| Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
|  div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedBastian
|  Muck ha scritto:
|  Soulnds like a good idea, even if i preferred Eclipse more ;-). I
|  don't have any problems with Eclipse and use it for Java, PHP and C.
|  But if you prefer Netbeans and you want to write the plugin it's over
|  to you. So when it's finished I will install Netbeans, too.
|  Completely agree...! :)
|
|
| Eclipse is alright if you can't type very fast, or if you have a very
| fast computer, but cutting it down enough to be remotely usable on a
| freerunner is probably more effort than it would be worth. When I was
| using it I found I had to disable so much just so it would operate at
| the speed I write code that I would have been better off just coding
| with nano.

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Re: Software

2008-05-06 Thread Bastian Muck

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Anachron can unfortunately run tasks once a day, which you can read at 
the Drawback. I guess that tasks, with a remember-funktions canot 
really be realized with anachron.
I don't know if there is a timer, which can send an wakeup-interupt, but 
when it exists the next upcoming task could be searched an the time 
could be passed to the timer. Does anybody knows of such timer?

If not i think it should be integrated in gta03.

Greetings Bastian

Torfinn Ingolfsen schrieb:
| Hi,
|
| On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Mike Baroukh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|  About this, I was wondering if there was possibility to have cron like
|  tasks even if the phone is suspended ?
|
| You could always run something like anacron{1] on the phone. As long
| as yoy don't keep you phone suspended for a day or more that would
| work. :-)
|
| References:
| 1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anacron

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Re: Is anyone else getting 2 or 3 copies of every mails?

2008-05-06 Thread Bastian Muck

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there might be an answer to this. When you write an email an someone 
uses the answer-all function you get an email adressed to your email 
adress and one to the mailinglist. Possibly that might be an answer. And 
of course sometimes there are double-posts.


Greetings Bastia
ian douglas schrieb:
| Michele Renda wrote:
|  Only one copy also for me. It is like you registered two / three
|  times. Are you sure you don't have mail fowarding activated to
|  another email address registered to this mailing list?
|
| Nope, I've always only had a single address on the list, and I've been 
a member since last summer.

|
| I got 3 copies of my own follow-up, 3 copies of Mo's response, and two 
copies of Michele's, and none of them were a CC to both the list AND my 
address... all replies were only to the list address. All copies share 
an identical Message-Id, but I see some different send times from the 
mail headers.

|
| Using Mo's response, and looking at the mail headers, I see this block:
|
| Copy 1:
| Received: from dashavoo.com ([80.68.90.193])
| by sita.openmoko.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JtVGV-00059x-Rb
| for community@lists.openmoko.org; Wed, 07 May 2008 00:04:15 +0200
|
| Copy 2:
| Received: from dashavoo.com ([80.68.90.193])
| by sita.openmoko.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JtVGV-00059x-Rb
| for community@lists.openmoko.org; Wed, 07 May 2008 00:04:15 +0200
|
| Copy 3:
| Received: from dashavoo.com ([80.68.90.193])
| by sita.openmoko.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JtVGN-00059m-4G
| for community@lists.openmoko.org; Wed, 07 May 2008 00:04:07 +0200
|
|
| ... so the third copy definitely sent to the mailing list engine a 
second time, like maybe the mailing list engine looped back through 
incoming messages? But I can't see any differences in the first two 
copies of the message at all, nor any differences in the raw message 
(headers, etc) from the two copies I got from Michele via gmail.

|
| It started a maybe two weeks ago with getting second copies, but today 
I'm getting third copies, so wanted to ask what was up. I remember 
seeing posts a while back about duplicate messages, and someone had to 
reset something with the mailing list engine.

|
| Like I said, this is only affecting messages from the OpenMoko 
Community list. My personal Email and other mailing lists I'm on only 
deliver a single copy.

|
| Can someone in charge of the list take a look at it pretty-please?
|
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Re: Is anyone else getting 2 or 3 copies of every mails?

2008-05-06 Thread Bastian Muck

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Hmm, i don't have this Problem. Do you use an emailclient?

ian douglas schrieb:
| As I've mentioned already though, the copies I'm getting are all 
duplicates from the mailing list -- I got two copies of your message, 
but both copies were only sent to the mailing list. None of the extra 
copies I've received today had me personally listed as a To: or CC: 
recipient, and the Message-Id fields are always similar so I'm not 
getting BCC'd copies.

|
| I quite confident that it's an issue with the mailing list.
|
| -id
|
|
| Bastian Muck wrote:
| there might be an answer to this. When you write an email an someone 
uses the answer-all function you get an email adressed to your email 
adress and one to the mailinglist. Possibly that might be an answer. And 
of course sometimes there are double-posts.

|
| Greetings Bastia
| ian douglas schrieb:
| | Michele Renda wrote:
| |  Only one copy also for me. It is like you registered two / three
| |  times. Are you sure you don't have mail fowarding activated to
| |  another email address registered to this mailing list?
| |
| | Nope, I've always only had a single address on the list, and I've 
been a member since last summer.

| |
| | I got 3 copies of my own follow-up, 3 copies of Mo's response, and 
two copies of Michele's, and none of them were a CC to both the list AND 
my address... all replies were only to the list address. All copies 
share an identical Message-Id, but I see some different send times from 
the mail headers.

| |
| | Using Mo's response, and looking at the mail headers, I see this block:
| |
| | Copy 1:
| | Received: from dashavoo.com ([80.68.90.193])
| | by sita.openmoko.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JtVGV-00059x-Rb
| | for community@lists.openmoko.org; Wed, 07 May 2008 00:04:15 +0200
| |
| | Copy 2:
| | Received: from dashavoo.com ([80.68.90.193])
| | by sita.openmoko.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JtVGV-00059x-Rb
| | for community@lists.openmoko.org; Wed, 07 May 2008 00:04:15 +0200
| |
| | Copy 3:
| | Received: from dashavoo.com ([80.68.90.193])
| | by sita.openmoko.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JtVGN-00059m-4G
| | for community@lists.openmoko.org; Wed, 07 May 2008 00:04:07 +0200
| |
| |
| | ... so the third copy definitely sent to the mailing list engine a 
second time, like maybe the mailing list engine looped back through 
incoming messages? But I can't see any differences in the first two 
copies of the message at all, nor any differences in the raw message 
(headers, etc) from the two copies I got from Michele via gmail.

| |
| | It started a maybe two weeks ago with getting second copies, but 
today I'm getting third copies, so wanted to ask what was up. I remember 
seeing posts a while back about duplicate messages, and someone had to 
reset something with the mailing list engine.

| |
| | Like I said, this is only affecting messages from the OpenMoko 
Community list. My personal Email and other mailing lists I'm on only 
deliver a single copy.

| |
| | Can someone in charge of the list take a look at it pretty-please?
| |
| | -id
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Re: OpenMoko Remote Controller (SoC)

2008-04-26 Thread Bastian Muck

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Hi Valério,
this is going to get a useful project. I just added a point at the Whish 
List.


Greeting Bastian

Valerio Valerio schrieb:
| Hello,
|
| I'm one of the students that will participate in Google Summer of Code 
under OpenMoko mentoring.
| The project consist in a implementation of a application that can turn 
OpenMoko powered devices in a Bluetooth mixed keyboard and mouse.
| Was recommended by Google do some community brainstorming in this 
period, I'm asking for some help. I need ideas for the name of the app, 
suggestion, wishes, etc...
| I setup a page in the OpenMoko wiki for the project, feel free to add 
info there:

|
| http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_Bluetooth_remote_controller
|
| In September we will have more ten rocking OpenMoko apps :)
|
| Cheers,
|
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|
| http://www.valeriovalerio.org
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Re: OpenMoko Remote Controller (SoC)

2008-04-26 Thread Bastian Muck

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Can it be used to controll presentations?

Andy Powell schrieb:
| On Saturday 26 April 2008 17:40, Valerio Valerio wrote:
| Hello,
|
| I'm one of the students that will participate in Google Summer of Code
| under OpenMoko mentoring.
| The project consist in a implementation of a application that can turn
| OpenMoko powered devices in a Bluetooth mixed keyboard and mouse.
| Was recommended by Google do some community brainstorming in this period,
| I'm asking for some help. I need ideas for the name of the app, 
suggestion,

| wishes, etc...
| I setup a page in the OpenMoko wiki for the project, feel free to add 
info

| there:
|
| http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_Bluetooth_remote_controller
|
| In September we will have more ten rocking OpenMoko apps :)
|
| Cheers,
|
| You might want to take a look at  xkbd-bthid...
|
| http://www.mulliner.org/bluetooth/xkbdbthid.php
|

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Re: Thoughts about calls not taken

2008-04-25 Thread Bastian Muck

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Torfinn Ingolfsen schrieb:
| Hi,
|
| On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 11:20 PM, Stefan Misch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Hi,
|
|  I have an idea going through my mind about rejecting phone calls.
|
| Personally, I only use rejects if I ewant the calling party to *know*
| that I have rejected the call. For most cases, I prefer the ignore
| button, which just tuns off sound (and vibration if enabled). Thus the
| caller (salesman, unknown numder, etc) only knows that I didn't
| answer.
|
I use this feature also very often and I would like to have it added in 
my freerunner, or at least when I get it :-).

|  What are your thoughts about this?
|
| What I would like is a general filter mechanism, kind of like an email
| spam filter, which would let me filter on any number of arguments
| (calling number, called number (if we ever get multiple numbers on our
| mobile phones), presence status (and calendar busy / free status),
| time, and more). And I should be able to program any possible action
| for my filters, like - direct to voicemail, call forward, call reject,
| and so on.
|
| Anyway, that is what I wish for.

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Re: Group Order Germany, NRW, Bielefeld

2008-04-25 Thread Bastian Muck

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Hi Roland,

I also live in NRW/Germany, exactly near Cologne. The best way you could 
get a cheap Freerunner schould be here:

http://freeyourphone.de/forum/index.php?topic=79.0

Greetings Bastian

Roland Häder schrieb:
| I'm in North Germany but will be in NRW, Krefeld in August this year.
|
| But I have already single-pre-ordered it. :/
|
| Roland
|
| On Friday, 25. April 2008, darktim wrote:
| Am Freitag, den 25.04.2008, 18:34 +0200 schrieb Sebastian Hammerl:
| anyone near Bielefeld, NRW, Germany who wants to join our group to get
| the extras?
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Re: QEMU slooooow

2008-04-22 Thread Bastian Muck

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AFAIK the emulator emulates the hardware of the neo. This is of course 
not very effiicient because the neo uses non X86-architecture. On my 
desktop-pc (AMD XP 3000+) qemu is also unusable slow. On my laptop 
(Core2Duo 1,86) it is a lot faster (could be used as phone, but for 
ordinary use also a bit slow).


Greetings Bastian

Steven Le Roux schrieb:
|
|
| On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Rune Gangstø [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

|
| I've noticed the same thing.
| I haven't tried it for a long time, so I can't say if it's just 
some other options in QEMU.

| If anyone knows anything, please share with us.
|
| 2008/4/22, Tomas Gustavsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

|
| I totally agree with you. I have tried OpenMoko several times 
through
| QEMU but the waiting has been unreasonable long so the testing 
doesn't

| last very long...
|
| 2008/4/22, Eildert Groeneveld [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

|
|  Hi List
| 
|  just wondering if everyone else is suffering from a 
veeey slow
|  operation in qemu openmoko. First it takes 10 minutes too 
boot and then
|  trying the applications like calendar or entering telephon 
numbers is so slow

|  that I never got past one entry.
| 
|  As I have not really seen any comments in this regards, 
maybe there are means

|  to speed this up.
| 
|  greetings
| 
|  Eildert
| 
|
|
| Yep same pb here... but I was trying on a dell x1 (ULV 1,1GHz so i was 
thinking mabe it was normal...)

|
| the last time I tried was 2 weeks ago.
|
|
|
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Re: DLP Pico Projector

2008-04-22 Thread Bastian Muck

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As Homer Simpson would say: hrr

I'd love to have this chio in gta03, but i guess, that it will be too 
expensive to integrate it, also in 2 years. :-(


Vedran Alajbegović schrieb:
| I posted same question on development group, but i see that community 
list is more active now :)

|
| ---
| I get more interested to Open Moko after presentation of Harald in 
DORS(in Croatia - this mounth)

|
| I just want to ask, did anyone think about integrating DLP Pico 
Projector in following generations of device?

| some info can be found at:
| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT1mhSRichk
| http://www.dlp.com/tech/what.aspx
| ---
|
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Re: Our new Main page of wiki

2008-04-18 Thread Bastian Muck

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Hi thomas,

I don't know where you get the 14pt. The font-size in the body is 
x-small (which size this ever is) and the font-size of the menu is 95% 
or 1.1em.


But I just discovered, that Internet Explorer and Mozilla Firefox 
display different results. In IE the fontsize of the menu is totally ok. 
May be, that Firefox uses primarily .portlet and IE seems to use 
p-navigation.


div class='portlet' id='p-navigation'

.portlet ul {
   line-height: 1.5em;
   list-style-type: square;
   list-style-image: url(navigation_bullet.gif);
   font-size: 95%;
   margin-top: 0px;
   padding-top: 3px;
}

#p-navigation {
   font-size: 1.1em;
}

Is it possible to fix this difference?

Greetings Bastian

thomasg schrieb:
| I'm using 1280x1024, like probably many or the most people out there 
(default resolution for all 19, most 17 and some 20 inch displays). Not 
everybody has a WUXGA capable monitor, so if the resolution is too high 
and you are not capable of setting the fontsize and so on in your 
browser to make it fit for you: get another monitor.
| The wiki uses 14pt. Standard size - and also the size I use normally 
is 12pt.

|
| On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 1:35 AM, Bastian Muck [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

|
| Too big? Which resolution do you use? 300x200? Ok, with 1920x1200 many 
things can be too small (specially flash videos and fixed sized hps) but 
I think this is also in an usual resolution too small.The solution to 
make it bigger at my browser is not the right way i think. Many people 
don't have good eyes and they should also can read the menu.

|
| Greetings Bastian
|
| thomasg schrieb:
|
| | Imho they are too big. So I tell my browser to make it smaller. You 
should do the same :)

| |
| | On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 6:51 PM, Bastian Muck [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

| |
| | I like the design and I thing, that the content is much better 
presented. But could you increase the fontsize of the menus? IMO the old 
fontsizes of the menus are better readable.

| |
| | Great work,
| |
| | Bastian
| |
| |
| | nickd schrieb:
| |
| | | i agree looks great! the side menu works with firefox 3 beta 5 now 
which is nice too =) (used to be all the way down the bottom for some 
reason)

| | | -nick
| | |
| | | Brenda Wang wrote:
| | | Hi, all:
| | | Here is the  new  main page of our  wiki.
| | | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Test_main_page
| | | It will switch to Main page soon.
| | | Please feel free to give us your feedback .
| | |
| | | Regards
| | |
| | | Brenda
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Re: which applications are usable

2008-04-18 Thread Bastian Muck

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To this i have a little question. I didn't find the ESC-key (which is 
essentially in vi(m)) and i also didn't find the CTRL-key. Whithout this 
a simple tail can make you to kill the hole window.


Greetings Bastian

Flemming Richter Mikkelsen schrieb:
| On 4/18/08, *Eildert Groeneveld* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

|
| On Friday 18 April 2008, Tim Shannon wrote:
|  I love that the terminal is one of the requisite applications.  
This is

|  definitely a phone I'm looking forward to.
|
| Indeed, just imagine running vi on a phone!! The ultimate!
| Eildert
|
|  
| At least if you use an external keyboard!
| And use vim (vi improved) instead of vi so you get the added 
functionality (e.g. code completion is nice when you don't have an 
external keyboard) and syntax highlighing (since it can be difficoult to 
detect typo's) :)

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Re: which applications are usable

2008-04-18 Thread Bastian Muck

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Ok, Thank you for reply.

Greetings Bastian
Kevin Dean schrieb:
| On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Bastian Muck [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

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|  To this i have a little question. I didn't find the ESC-key (which is
| essentially in vi(m)) and i also didn't find the CTRL-key. Whithout 
this a

| simple tail can make you to kill the hole window.
|
| The current keyboard in the Openmoko images is not the keyboard that
| will be shipped. The full QWERTY keyboard had a bug that broke
| important functions, so the multi-tap input was dropped in as a
| replacement. Because this doesn't have a (-) or a CTRL or a / key,
| it's essentially useless for terminal.
|
| Raster is working on a replacement keyboard. When it ends up in the
| images is unknown.
|
|  Greetings Bastian
|
|  Flemming Richter Mikkelsen schrieb:
|
|
|  | On 4/18/08, *Eildert Groeneveld* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

| wrote:
|  |
|  | On Friday 18 April 2008, Tim Shannon wrote:
|  |  I love that the terminal is one of the requisite applications.
| This is
|  |  definitely a phone I'm looking forward to.
|  |
|  | Indeed, just imagine running vi on a phone!! The ultimate!
|  | Eildert
|  |
|  |  | At least if you use an external keyboard!
|  | And use vim (vi improved) instead of vi so you get the added
| functionality (e.g. code completion is nice when you don't have an 
external

| keyboard) and syntax highlighing (since it can be difficoult to detect
| typo's) :)
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Re: Any compliant headset? (Re: was FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update)

2008-04-18 Thread Bastian Muck

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Hi Gilles,

i got a headset with 2,5mm with my HTC SDA2 (SDAII). Probably you might 
find one when searching with this.


For example here: http://www.mygift.com/htc/htc-SDA-headset.html

Greetings Bastian

Gilles Casse schrieb:
| thomasg wrote:
| What you wrote, Gilles, is a problem. I can't imagine, that FIC 
produced headsets that would fit for the neo only (why should they?), so 
I strongly assume that the headset is a standard device. Maybe you 
should describe what exactly didn't work, so we can try to figure out 
what the problem is.
| I can only guess: it could be a problem with the alsa settings, or 
maybe the impedance of the headsets was just different.

|
|
| Hi Thomas, all,
|
| Publish please urls where a compliant headset (2.5mm, 65 ohms, stereo, 
mic?) can be bought online. If there is no compliant headset, the issue 
will be at least identified, hopefully first step before resolution :-) .

|
| I tried 3 earphones: the first one was unusable, due to low impedance 
as pointed out by Joerg's answer:

| http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-March/013791.html
|
| I did not find a 2.5mm, 65 ohms stereo earphone, and fall back to 
check two 3.5mm, 65 ohms Sennheiser earphones plus a 3.5/2.5mm adapter. 
The audio volume is correct, but now only one ear has audio.

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Re: Our new Main page of wiki

2008-04-17 Thread Bastian Muck

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I like the design and I thing, that the content is much better 
presented. But could you increase the fontsize of the menus? IMO the old 
fontsizes of the menus are better readable.


Great work,

Bastian


nickd schrieb:
| i agree looks great! the side menu works with firefox 3 beta 5 now 
which is nice too =) (used to be all the way down the bottom for some 
reason)

| -nick
|
| Brenda Wang wrote:
| Hi, all:
| Here is the  new  main page of our  wiki.
| http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Test_main_page
| It will switch to Main page soon.
| Please feel free to give us your feedback .
|
| Regards
|
| Brenda
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Re: Our new Main page of wiki

2008-04-17 Thread Bastian Muck

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Too big? Which resolution do you use? 300x200? Ok, with 1920x1200 many 
things can be too small (specially flash videos and fixed sized hps) but 
I think this is also in an usual resolution too small.The solution to 
make it bigger at my browser is not the right way i think. Many people 
don't have good eyes and they should also can read the menu.


Greetings Bastian

thomasg schrieb:
| Imho they are too big. So I tell my browser to make it smaller. You 
should do the same :)

|
| On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 6:51 PM, Bastian Muck [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

|
| I like the design and I thing, that the content is much better 
presented. But could you increase the fontsize of the menus? IMO the old 
fontsizes of the menus are better readable.

|
| Great work,
|
| Bastian
|
|
| nickd schrieb:
|
| | i agree looks great! the side menu works with firefox 3 beta 5 now 
which is nice too =) (used to be all the way down the bottom for some 
reason)

| | -nick
| |
| | Brenda Wang wrote:
| | Hi, all:
| | Here is the  new  main page of our  wiki.
| | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Test_main_page
| | It will switch to Main page soon.
| | Please feel free to give us your feedback .
| |
| | Regards
| |
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Re: Our new Main page of wiki

2008-04-17 Thread Bastian Muck

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Somehow you are right. But the menufont is now much smaller than the 
rest. the old font of the menu is in my oppinion better. but never mind, 
i know about using ctrl + + and ctrl + mousewheel. i just thought, 
that many people could have this problem.


Greetings Bastian

Flemming Richter Mikkelsen schrieb:
| On 4/18/08, Bastian Muck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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| Too big? Which resolution do you use? 300x200? Ok, with 1920x1200 many
| things can be too small (specially flash videos and fixed sized hps) 
but I
| think this is also in an usual resolution too small.The solution to 
make it

| bigger at my browser is not the right way i think. Many people don't have
| good eyes and they should also can read the menu.
|
|
| This is a compromise between too big and including people which use
| too high resolution. If you have this big resolution, and you don't
| have any problems on other web pages, you don't have a problem here,
| right?
|
| Adjusting the font size is easy (ctrl-+), except if you use IE (you
| have to go on View - Text size - Largest if you use IE).
|
| Some people use special glasses when they use the computer... you
| cannot expect this wiki to use 24pt text. People like to see more than
| just a few words at a time. I want to see the whole page without
| horizontal scrolling and the whole index table without vertical
| scrolling. I think I am not the only one.
|
| I do not have larger resolution that 800x600 here (very little
| screen), and really hate too large fonts.
|
| That is just my opinion.
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Re: e-mail app on OM

2008-04-16 Thread Bastian Muck

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I´d like a tiny clone of Mozilla Thunderbird. I don't know, if it is 
realizeable or reasonable, but there might be best synchonization to 
other devices. Mozilla Thunderbird is available for different platforms, 
so there might be less problems with this.
There are many good mailclients, but Thunderbird is, of cause in my 
mind, the best. A problem might be a big overhead, but I have too less 
knowledge of the code.


Greetings Bastian

steve schrieb:
| We should probably have a MOST WANTED list of apps on the Wiki  
|

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| i've had a look through the projects page, and done a quick search on the
| wiki, and can't see an e-mail app anywhere. do OM have one planned, or is
| this something that will be left to the community? is anyone working on
| anything?
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Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

2008-04-15 Thread Bastian Muck

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What about colored stickers? I think it could be cheap to design and cut 
them to fit at the neo. I guess this could be a solution to many whishes 
for special colors. But this feature could be sold by a thirdparty-shop. 
And I guess, that it would be early enough to sell them when the 
massproduction begins. There wont be many female developers i think.


ramsesoriginal schrieb:
| On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:49 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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|  what you guys actually want to see me dance?
|
| Oh hm... YES! xD
|
| and also some of my female (and even male) friends asked about
| coloring: the preferred ones:
| -red
| -pink (yes, really)
| -blue
| -kiwi-green
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