Re: root almighty

2009-05-20 Thread Bram Neijt
Hi Max, I've run as a regular user on Debian, but updates would break most of it. If you are going to try it on Debian, then don't forget the DBus and /dev rights to be set correctly. I have not seen any technical issues with using a normal user[1] and I'm all for it. As far as I know, nobody

Re: Mer on OpenMoko devices ?

2009-05-01 Thread Bram Neijt
Google thinks you should read this: http://goshawknest.wordpress.com/2009/03/28/maemomer-on-freerunner/ Bram On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 11:26 +0200, Olivier Berger wrote: Hi. Anyone know if http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer (or bits of it) could run on OpenMoko devices ? Best regards,

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-21 Thread Bram Neijt
On Sun, 2009-04-19 at 11:52 +1000, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 12:13:08 +0200 Bram Neijt bne...@gmail.com said: This looks like a great list! I'll go through the points one by one... On Sat, 2009-04-18 at 01:03 +0200, Leonti Bielski wrote: Enlightenment is the best

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-21 Thread Bram Neijt
an example of where other libraries where just to slow? Bram On Sun, 2009-04-19 at 11:28 +1000, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 17:11:37 +0200 Bram Neijt bne...@gmail.com said: as such the choice of enviornment, thanks to it running x, is not limited, you can use qt, gtk, sdl, fltk

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-21 Thread Bram Neijt
Reading this, I do not consider continuing this discussion useful. Thank you for your reply and happy hacking! Bram On Tue, 2009-04-21 at 21:38 +1000, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:00:33 +0200 Bram Neijt bne...@gmail.com said: On Sun, 2009-04-19 at 11:52 +1000, Carsten

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-18 Thread Bram Neijt
This looks like a great list! I'll go through the points one by one... On Sat, 2009-04-18 at 01:03 +0200, Leonti Bielski wrote: Enlightenment is the best choice for Freerunner! 1. Theming - it keeps resources low and alows us to do everything we want with GUI! Take shelf widgets as an

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-17 Thread Bram Neijt
That could very well be what went wrong. I'll put hackable:1 on my list and if I experience problems, I'll let you know. Thanks! Bram On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 13:19 +0200, Pierre Pronchery wrote: When I tried hackable:1 it did not contain a dialer and had no basic phone functionality, but I

Re: [Debian] on Freerunner feed back

2009-04-17 Thread Bram Neijt
A few mailings back I was told that Zhone is never going to be a proper dialer. Zhone is ment to be a debugging and feature testing application for the FSO framework. I don't think patching Zhone is going to be of any use. I don't know if there is anybody in the debian community who is going to

Re: [Debian] on Freerunner feed back

2009-04-17 Thread Bram Neijt
As you mention, debian may not be the right project to try to focus on a subset of apps. I'll have to retry hackable:1 and try SHR before I start trying to mold a community of like-minded on top of debian ;) I don't think I have enough of an overview to not end up being counter productive. Give

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-17 Thread Bram Neijt
I know this is inflammatory, but I really couldn't resist: You see things; and you say, 'Why not?' But I dream things that never were; and I say, Why not not? Bram On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 17:43 +0200, Marco Trevisan (TreviƱo) wrote: Thomas Seiler wrote: Hi, Why enlightenment? | You

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-16 Thread Bram Neijt
to just go my own way. Thank you for your reply! Bram On Thu, 2009-04-16 at 00:54 +0200, Martin Bernreuther wrote: Am Mittwoch, 15. April 2009 schrieb Bram Neijt: I know this question must have come up once before, but I couldn't find any real answer online, so I'm posting it here. Why

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-16 Thread Bram Neijt
is all about (as soon as the next FSO milestone is reached I'll probably give it another try). Thank you for your reply. Bram On Thu, 2009-04-16 at 01:25 +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Bram Neijt bne...@gmail.com writes: Saying that the libs are dedicated to the Neo sounds like my worst

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-16 Thread Bram Neijt
In theory this sounds like a good idea, but I think in practice the scrollbars would have to be accessible in the middle of the screen. Because the OpenMoko screen has an edge around it[1], using the edges of the screen means pushing your finger inside a 90* corner and sliding it. Not something I

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-16 Thread Bram Neijt
toolkits. And when I said about good apps I was thinking about phone apps. And it seems that SHR has really good, e17 phone apps. They would be perfect, if only there is opimd support and some today screen :) 2009/4/16, Bram Neijt bne...@gmail.com: Saying that the libs are dedicated

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-16 Thread Bram Neijt
True, I expected to like the Freerunner as a phone and thought the whole freedom would just be an added bonus. If the phone isn't that good, I could always fix small bugs and help out. However, it turns out that I can't understand the direction the mainstream development is going, and with this

Why enlightenment?

2009-04-15 Thread Bram Neijt
I know this question must have come up once before, but I couldn't find any real answer online, so I'm posting it here. Why enlightenment? I haven't seen enlightenment being used for over 4 years, and with the wealth of programs out there which are portable and can run on top op Linux, this

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-15 Thread Bram Neijt
When I tried hackable:1 it did not contain a dialer and had no basic phone functionality, but I will be giving it another try in the near future. Thank you for your reply. Bram On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 23:19 +0200, Cedric Cellier wrote: If you'd prefer using Qt or GTK, both have dedicated

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-15 Thread Bram Neijt
Saying that the libs are dedicated to the Neo sounds like my worst nightmare: no application anywhere ever uses them.. except for some of the programs written specially for the Neo. That would imply that, if you ever want to use an application on the Neo, you will have to port it (or live with the