Re: About the BRLCAD files I have created some time ago ...
On Friday 16 January 2009 08:42:30 Claus Christmann wrote: Please see inline and below... On Friday 16 January 2009 04:54:41 Pander wrote: Hi all, The download with the CAD file is a bit messy, I've a cleaned up version. To who can I send this for review and subsequent hosting on the downloads? Regards, Pander Lothar Behrens wrote: Hi, I wondered why there is no link to the BRLCAD files I have created and then located at the following page: http://controls.ae.gatech.edu/claus/web/openmoko.html I only found the page by searching the mailinglist about BRLCAD, but this is because I KNOW about the existence of these files. Wouldn't it be better to add a page with information more than only a list of files generated by the browser ? http://downloads.openmoko.org/CAD/ Then there could added more stuff like editing the files to create more stuff. Should I, am I allowed to do so ? Thanks Lothar -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen --- - Hi, I am the guy hosting the CAD files at the fore-mentioned address. All I did in the beginning was to take the ProE files and transform them into IGES and STEP files. I asked on the email list how to proceed and was then contacted by Michael Shiloh mich...@openmoko.org. I then made the files publicly available on my site (at http://controls.ae.gatech.edu/claus/web/openmoko.html) and Michael moved the files from there to the http://downloads.openmoko.org/CAD/ site. I guess there is no need for me to be the man in the middle, but I have the online space and can host the files there. If somebody has some more CAD files and wants to get them to me, just let me know in private. I could create a wiki page the points to my site, but I guess we should try to get Michael to transfer all the new files to http://downloads.openmoko.org/CAD/ as well Comments? Thanks, Claus Pander has send me the new files for BRLCAD (total of 131MB, .tar.bz2). I have put them on my CAD page: https://controls.ae.gatech.edu/claus/web/openmoko.html Please feel free to download the new files from there... Claus -- Claus Christmann Graduate Research Assistant Georgia Institute of Technology 270 Ferst Drive Atlanta, GA 30332-0150, USA http://uav.ae.gatech.edu ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: About the BRLCAD files I have created some time ago ...
Please see inline and below... On Friday 16 January 2009 04:54:41 Pander wrote: Hi all, The download with the CAD file is a bit messy, I've a cleaned up version. To who can I send this for review and subsequent hosting on the downloads? Regards, Pander Lothar Behrens wrote: Hi, I wondered why there is no link to the BRLCAD files I have created and then located at the following page: http://controls.ae.gatech.edu/claus/web/openmoko.html I only found the page by searching the mailinglist about BRLCAD, but this is because I KNOW about the existence of these files. Wouldn't it be better to add a page with information more than only a list of files generated by the browser ? http://downloads.openmoko.org/CAD/ Then there could added more stuff like editing the files to create more stuff. Should I, am I allowed to do so ? Thanks Lothar -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen Hi, I am the guy hosting the CAD files at the fore-mentioned address. All I did in the beginning was to take the ProE files and transform them into IGES and STEP files. I asked on the email list how to proceed and was then contacted by Michael Shiloh mich...@openmoko.org. I then made the files publicly available on my site (at http://controls.ae.gatech.edu/claus/web/openmoko.html) and Michael moved the files from there to the http://downloads.openmoko.org/CAD/ site. I guess there is no need for me to be the man in the middle, but I have the online space and can host the files there. If somebody has some more CAD files and wants to get them to me, just let me know in private. I could create a wiki page the points to my site, but I guess we should try to get Michael to transfer all the new files to http://downloads.openmoko.org/CAD/ as well Comments? Thanks, Claus -- Claus Christmann Graduate Research Assistant Georgia Institute of Technology 270 Ferst Drive Atlanta, GA 30332-0150, USA http://uav.ae.gatech.edu ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ReMoKo and openSuSE 11
On Wednesday 01 October 2008 07:51:48 am Valerio Valerio wrote: Hi, 2008/10/1 Flyin_bbb8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ok i don't know if this might be useful but the line -- BlueZ input service started is only showin in the terminal through ssh after i press the X button this is the normal behavior, ReMoko stop the input service because use the same channels to send information, on exit ReMoko restore the initial conditions of the system. The weird thing is that your system try to connect on the psm 1 ( L2CAP(s): Connect req: psm 1 scid 0x0040), and the HID psm are the 17 and 19, which version of BlueZ do you have on your system ? Best regads, Sorry for beeing absent on this thread for so long... I run into the exact same issues as described so far. Here is the data on my bluez installation (standart setup for an openSuSE 11.0 install): bluez-libs: 3.32-3.2 (Tue 15 Jul 2008 12:36:04 PM EDT) bluez-utils: 3.32-8.2 (Tue 15 Jul 2008 09:25:35 PM EDT) Thanks a lot for your help, Valerio. Claus -- Claus Christmann Graduate Research Assistant Georgia Institute of Technology 270 Ferst Drive Atlanta, GA 30332-0150, USA http://uav.ae.gatech.edu ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: CAD conversion and editing
Please see inline and below... On Wednesday 24 September 2008 08:59:12 am Breakable wrote: Hi, Anybody got any success for editing CAD files for the phone case? Basically I am trying to get them open in brlcad (which seems to be the best free CAD software ever), without any success yet. I had some success in VariCad demo (proprietary) where parts of the design are imported using STEP format, but it does not seem good enough, as I see about 50% of the shapes usually. IGES on the other hand seems like a total dissaster. The IGES files I created seemed to work in Pro/E and CATIA V5. Can you figure out if the files are corrupted or if it is a non-working import filter in brlcad that does not work? Have you tried opening a single file and not the complete assembly? The only solution I currently see is buying or pirating the Pro/ENGINEER to edit or convert them to brlcad .g format using the Pro/E to BRLCAD converter plugin for Pro/ENGINEER from the brlcad suite. Buying or pirating for this task is not the option I like. Anybody that has a Pro/ENGINEER license can assist with that? There is a nice description how to do it in http://brlcad.org/w/images/6/66/Converting_Geometry.pdf in section 4.9 page 27 of pdf. I have access to a Pro/E licencense and can look into that. However, it won't happen till the weekend... After this is done properly, maybe the BRLCAD to DXF converter can be used to improve accessibility of design files for those that have AutoCad. DXF is essentially a 2D format. Since there is no conversion from 3D to 2D that does not lose information, a usefull conversion heavily depends on the need of the user of those 2D DXF files. IF the list could agree on a limited number of planes/slices through the 3D model I might be willing to put the time into creating them. If this issue wont be resolved I don't believe a community effort to build on the openness of the device will ever succeed. Regards, Ignas As said above, I will look into this brlcad over the weekend and look into the conversion of the files into the appropriate format. However, I can't promise anything... (BTW, I have never heard of brlcad, but I also hardly use anything else than CATIA these days...) Regards, Claus -- Claus Christmann Graduate Research Assistant Georgia Institute of Technology 270 Ferst Drive Atlanta, GA 30332-0150, USA http://uav.ae.gatech.edu ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: CAD conversion and editing
Please see inline and below: On Wednesday 24 September 2008 10:58:59 am Lothar Behrens wrote: Hi, I have converted as much as possible from the CAD files into BRLCAD files. Propably I have forgotten to tell Michael Shiloh where the converted files are. (As of I had eMail contact to him) Also I am not much familar with the BRL CAD and I also could not compare the files to their orginal versions. Where could I put the tgz file that contains all the others (~ 16 MB) ? If you want, I can host the files at webspace of mine, next to the IGES and STEP files. If that sounds like an option, simply email me the files. (Once Michael Shiloh gets in contact with you the files can then be transfered to downloads.openmoko.org/CAD as well) The file also contains a script. (How I have converted the igs files) Regards, Lothar Am 24.09.2008 um 16:09 schrieb Claus Christmann: Please see inline and below... On Wednesday 24 September 2008 08:59:12 am Breakable wrote: Hi, Anybody got any success for editing CAD files for the phone case? Basically I am trying to get them open in brlcad (which seems to be the best free CAD software ever), without any success yet. I had some success in VariCad demo (proprietary) where parts of the design are imported using STEP format, but it does not seem good enough, as I see about 50% of the shapes usually. IGES on the other hand seems like a total dissaster. The IGES files I created seemed to work in Pro/E and CATIA V5. Can you figure out if the files are corrupted or if it is a non-working import filter in brlcad that does not work? Have you tried opening a single file and not the complete assembly? The only solution I currently see is buying or pirating the Pro/ ENGINEER to edit or convert them to brlcad .g format using the Pro/E to BRLCAD converter plugin for Pro/ENGINEER from the brlcad suite. Buying or pirating for this task is not the option I like. Anybody that has a Pro/ENGINEER license can assist with that? There is a nice description how to do it in http://brlcad.org/w/images/6/66/Converting_Geometry.pdf in section 4.9 page 27 of pdf. I have access to a Pro/E licencense and can look into that. However, it won't happen till the weekend... After this is done properly, maybe the BRLCAD to DXF converter can be used to improve accessibility of design files for those that have AutoCad. DXF is essentially a 2D format. Since there is no conversion from 3D to 2D that does not lose information, a usefull conversion heavily depends on the need of the user of those 2D DXF files. IF the list could agree on a limited number of planes/slices through the 3D model I might be willing to put the time into creating them. If this issue wont be resolved I don't believe a community effort to build on the openness of the device will ever succeed. Regards, Ignas As said above, I will look into this brlcad over the weekend and look into the conversion of the files into the appropriate format. However, I can't promise anything... (BTW, I have never heard of brlcad, but I also hardly use anything else than CATIA these days...) Regards, Claus -- Claus Christmann Graduate Research Assistant Georgia Institute of Technology 270 Ferst Drive Atlanta, GA 30332-0150, USA http://uav.ae.gatech.edu ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen The files would then be available via http://controls.ae.gatech.edu/claus/web/openmoko.html -- Claus Christmann Graduate Research Assistant Georgia Institute of Technology 270 Ferst Drive Atlanta, GA 30332-0150, USA http://uav.ae.gatech.edu ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: CAD conversion and editing
Please see inline and below: On Wednesday 24 September 2008 10:09:10 am Claus Christmann wrote: Please see inline and below... On Wednesday 24 September 2008 08:59:12 am Breakable wrote: Hi, Anybody got any success for editing CAD files for the phone case? Basically I am trying to get them open in brlcad (which seems to be the best free CAD software ever), without any success yet. I had some success in VariCad demo (proprietary) where parts of the design are imported using STEP format, but it does not seem good enough, as I see about 50% of the shapes usually. IGES on the other hand seems like a total dissaster. The IGES files I created seemed to work in Pro/E and CATIA V5. Can you figure out if the files are corrupted or if it is a non-working import filter in brlcad that does not work? Have you tried opening a single file and not the complete assembly? The only solution I currently see is buying or pirating the Pro/ENGINEER to edit or convert them to brlcad .g format using the Pro/E to BRLCAD converter plugin for Pro/ENGINEER from the brlcad suite. Buying or pirating for this task is not the option I like. Anybody that has a Pro/ENGINEER license can assist with that? There is a nice description how to do it in http://brlcad.org/w/images/6/66/Converting_Geometry.pdf in section 4.9 page 27 of pdf. I have access to a Pro/E licencense and can look into that. However, it won't happen till the weekend... Hurray to procrastination... Well, I downloaded brlcad and briefly looked into that conversion thing. However, I could not figure out how to do it (again, I neither am a a regular Pro/E user nor have I ever heard of brlcad before). After this is done properly, maybe the BRLCAD to DXF converter can be used to improve accessibility of design files for those that have AutoCad. DXF is essentially a 2D format. Since there is no conversion from 3D to 2D that does not lose information, a usefull conversion heavily depends on the need of the user of those 2D DXF files. IF the list could agree on a limited number of planes/slices through the 3D model I might be willing to put the time into creating them. If this issue wont be resolved I don't believe a community effort to build on the openness of the device will ever succeed. Regards, Ignas As said above, I will look into this brlcad over the weekend and look into the conversion of the files into the appropriate format. However, I can't promise anything... (BTW, I have never heard of brlcad, but I also hardly use anything else than CATIA these days...) Regards, Claus It seems that I can't (for the lag of a better word) load the brlcad converter in Pro/E. The rather vague PDF calls for a file labeled *protk.dat* that shoul reside inside a /pro_engineer/ directory in the brlcad branch. I neither could find the file nor the directory. (I only tried the Windows binary download of brlcad since I only have a Windows Pro/E license.) So if anybody has a source to a step-by-step instruction on how to do the export from Pro/E, please let me know. Otherwise I will drop this conversion (as Andreas pointed out the IGES conversion seems to work after all). Regards, Claus -- Claus Christmann Graduate Research Assistant Georgia Institute of Technology 270 Ferst Drive Atlanta, GA 30332-0150, USA http://uav.ae.gatech.edu ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
ReMoKo and openSuSE 11
Hi, I got very excited to learn about ReMoKo, but got frustrated even more that hidd (the command necessary to bind the Neo to the desktop as a hid device, see [1]) is not present on openSuSE [2]. Before I start looking into that matter I just wanted to check if anybody got ReMoKo to cooperate with kinputwizard (the part of kbluetooth in openSuSE that should do the stuff hidd used to do [3] ...) So, anybody any hints? In exchange for answers I would opt in to update the Wiki with my success story... Thanks, Claus [1]:http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ReMoko#Install_Instructions [2]:http://forums.opensuse.org/hardware/392726-hidd-not-found-system-suse-11-a.html [3]:http://en.opensuse.org/Bluetooth/kinputwizard -- Claus Christmann Graduate Research Assistant Georgia Institute of Technology 270 Ferst Drive Atlanta, GA 30332-0150, USA http://uav.ae.gatech.edu ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: CAD conversion and editing
On Wednesday 24 September 2008 02:38:44 pm Claus Christmann wrote: Please see inline and below: On Wednesday 24 September 2008 10:58:59 am Lothar Behrens wrote: Hi, I have converted as much as possible from the CAD files into BRLCAD files. Propably I have forgotten to tell Michael Shiloh where the converted files are. (As of I had eMail contact to him) Also I am not much familar with the BRL CAD and I also could not compare the files to their orginal versions. Where could I put the tgz file that contains all the others (~ 16 MB) ? If you want, I can host the files at webspace of mine, next to the IGES and STEP files. If that sounds like an option, simply email me the files. (Once Michael Shiloh gets in contact with you the files can then be transfered to downloads.openmoko.org/CAD as well) The file also contains a script. (How I have converted the igs files) Regards, Lothar Am 24.09.2008 um 16:09 schrieb Claus Christmann: Please see inline and below... On Wednesday 24 September 2008 08:59:12 am Breakable wrote: Hi, Anybody got any success for editing CAD files for the phone case? Basically I am trying to get them open in brlcad (which seems to be the best free CAD software ever), without any success yet. I had some success in VariCad demo (proprietary) where parts of the design are imported using STEP format, but it does not seem good enough, as I see about 50% of the shapes usually. IGES on the other hand seems like a total dissaster. The IGES files I created seemed to work in Pro/E and CATIA V5. Can you figure out if the files are corrupted or if it is a non-working import filter in brlcad that does not work? Have you tried opening a single file and not the complete assembly? The only solution I currently see is buying or pirating the Pro/ ENGINEER to edit or convert them to brlcad .g format using the Pro/E to BRLCAD converter plugin for Pro/ENGINEER from the brlcad suite. Buying or pirating for this task is not the option I like. Anybody that has a Pro/ENGINEER license can assist with that? There is a nice description how to do it in http://brlcad.org/w/images/6/66/Converting_Geometry.pdf in section 4.9 page 27 of pdf. I have access to a Pro/E licencense and can look into that. However, it won't happen till the weekend... After this is done properly, maybe the BRLCAD to DXF converter can be used to improve accessibility of design files for those that have AutoCad. DXF is essentially a 2D format. Since there is no conversion from 3D to 2D that does not lose information, a usefull conversion heavily depends on the need of the user of those 2D DXF files. IF the list could agree on a limited number of planes/slices through the 3D model I might be willing to put the time into creating them. If this issue wont be resolved I don't believe a community effort to build on the openness of the device will ever succeed. Regards, Ignas As said above, I will look into this brlcad over the weekend and look into the conversion of the files into the appropriate format. However, I can't promise anything... (BTW, I have never heard of brlcad, but I also hardly use anything else than CATIA these days...) Regards, Claus -- Claus Christmann Graduate Research Assistant Georgia Institute of Technology 270 Ferst Drive Atlanta, GA 30332-0150, USA http://uav.ae.gatech.edu ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen The files would then be available via http://controls.ae.gatech.edu/claus/web/openmoko.html Lothar's files are availalbe via http://controls.ae.gatech.edu/claus/web/openmoko.html Thank you, Lothar, for doing the conversion. Let's hope that someone can figure out the problem with the last resiting files. Regards, Claus -- Claus Christmann Graduate Research Assistant Georgia Institute of Technology 270 Ferst Drive Atlanta, GA 30332-0150, USA http://uav.ae.gatech.edu ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Freerunner CAD Files - IGES ans STEP formats availalbe - Who wants to test them?
Hi list, I finally got around and converted the available Pro/E Wildfire 3 files into more generic IGES and STEP formats. You can find the links to the files on my (quickly drafted) website at http://controls.ae.gatech.edu/claus/web/openmoko.html This said, I am not sure how the individual assemblies will work, but at least now all the singe pieces are there... Happy CADing Claus P.S.: it is also much easier to mess around with possible private DIY shielding add-ons in CAD... in real life there is no revert... ;) P.P.S.: Once the files are confirmed to be working, my understanding is that they could go to http://downloads.openmoko.org/CAD/, so please let me know if the files work... -- Claus Christmann Graduate Research Assistant Georgia Institute of Technology 270 Ferst Drive Atlanta, GA 30332-0150 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner CAD Files - IGES ans STEP formats availalbe - Who wants to test them?
I have actually no idea... I personally use CATIA and that opens all of these formats... Claus Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: what open-source linux tools (or at least freeware) would you recommend to at least view those formats? On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Claus Christmann wrote: Hi list, I finally got around and converted the available Pro/E Wildfire 3 files into more generic IGES and STEP formats. You can find the links to the files on my (quickly drafted) website at http://controls.ae.gatech.edu/claus/web/openmoko.html This said, I am not sure how the individual assemblies will work, but at least now all the singe pieces are there... Happy CADing Claus P.S.: it is also much easier to mess around with possible private DIY shielding add-ons in CAD... in real life there is no revert... ;) P.P.S.: Once the files are confirmed to be working, my understanding is that they could go to http://downloads.openmoko.org/CAD/, so please let me know if the files work... -- Claus Christmann Graduate Research Assistant Georgia Institute of Technology 270 Ferst Drive Atlanta, GA 30332-0150 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Convert Freerunner CAD Files - IGES or STEP?
Please see below: Robin Paulson wrote: 2008/6/21 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have access to Pro/E and am willing to convert the Wildfire 3 files into something else. What do you prefer? IGES (Wireframe or Solid?), or STEP (Wireframe or Solid?)? All of the above? If its just a matter of selecting an export format. i'll second that - the more the better OK, I finally found a batch processing way to convert the files to STEP and IGES. When zipped, the archives still are kinda large (step.zip ~35MB, step.tar.gz ~30MB, iges.zip ~100mb, iges.tar.gz ~85MB)... So the question arises: where shall I put them? How would I get them onto downloads.openmoko.org? (Sorry folks, but I can't host them myself...) Claus -- Claus Christmann Graduate Research Assistant Georgia Institute of Technology 270 Ferst Drive Atlanta, GA 30332-0150 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
