Re: Yet Another OpenMoko Presentation

2008-11-18 Thread David Samblas
Don't worry I have made a more generic openmoko presentation here.
Spanish/English opd/pdf aviable
http://www.openmoko-spain.org/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=3

El lun, 17-11-2008 a las 00:11 +, Tim Dobson escribió:
 David Samblas wrote:
  El sáb, 08-11-2008 a las 12:38 +0100, David Samblas escribió:
  Count with an Spanish translation in short too :)
 
  I want to use it in more general presentation of openmoko not FDOM
  focused, Can I make a smooth version regarding other distributions...
  you have been ummh eemmhh a little mh rough?
 
 When I get some more free time, I'll see what I can do.
 
 originally it was used for an event where other people were presenting 
 the different distributions (and in their cases saying why it wasn't 
 their main phone) so in context it didn't look so harsh on them but I do 
 take your point.
 
 At the moment (always actually) my life is really busy, and I can't see 
 when I will have time, but when I will do my best :)
 
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And one more presentation to the list

2008-11-16 Thread David Samblas
Hi all

here 
http://www.openmoko-spain.org/files/presentacion_neo-freerunner_openmoko-spainv5_english.odp
http://www.openmoko-spain.org/files/presentacion_neo-freerunner_openmoko-spainv5_english.pdf
you will find a quick and dirty english translation of the presentation
done last Friday in Universidad Carlos III de Madrid anfitrions will
release a video in short, as soon as it's release I will post it on the
list too.

Here there is a draft article where you will find the original spanish
presentation.
http://www.openmoko-spain.org/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=3

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Re: [2008.9 , FDOM] gsm modem and suspend

2008-11-13 Thread David Samblas
Waiting for Tichy-Paroly stuff to be functional enough, I preffer FDOM
tied to OpenEmbedded more than Debian, but yes, I must agree, qpe has
enough annoys to seriously consider to move on. 

El jue, 13-11-2008 a las 08:59 +0300, Flyin_bbb8 escribió:
 i did a couple of tests in FDOM yesterday to find out what's really
 causing this problem. i changed that echo 1   blah to gsm
 power_on in qtopia89 in /etc/X11/XSession.. the results were not
 so random but sometimes didn't make sense, couldn't come to an exact
 conclusion but it seems like qtopia is behind all this. and a
 hundred other bugs is behind that QPE. it's time to move on !
 switchin to debian :) and never comin back to om200x.x unless qtopia
 gets out of there :p 
 
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Re: [shr] SHR image released

2008-11-12 Thread David Samblas
Downloading the preview right now  I will try to test it tomorrow 
thank you guys :) 
El jue, 13-11-2008 a las 01:08 +0100, Julien Cassignol escribió:
 The SHR image was NOT released.
 
 This is a preview only, we didn't release it yet because we feel it's
 not complete enough for a day to day usage basis.
 There's also some issues with frameworkd (even MS4, sad to say), which
 we would like to settle before any official release.
 
 We would also like to build a graceful failure feature to avoid lots
 of complaining about my contacts app crashed ! just because the sim
 PIN wasn't registered yet :-).
 
 I use it on a day to day basis myself, it's quite stable, and I'm
 enjoying it, but please do not consider this as a release. This isn't.
 It's merely a preview.
 
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Re: Openmoko chronology

2008-11-10 Thread David Samblas

El lun, 10-11-2008 a las 10:39 +0100, Minh Ha Duong escribió:
 Hi,
 
  I think openmoko-the-project was founded not by FIC but by a core team 
 comprising a handfull of german devs (Sean, I guess Harald, and others but 
 the The original core team page was deleted from the wiki on Sep. 2, 2008). 
 You could try to contact one of them for a 10mn phone interview.
That's why I put the draft of the chrono, to fix any mistake ;) , until
new order I will omit any FIC refrence
 If I may suggest an angle for your story, beyond listing software releases 
 (btw I would not count Qi in yet), what I find most fascinating is how a 
 small player can live and prosper in the middle of well entrenched giants. 
 They/we are heading straight towards Apple and Microsoft marketspace, on the 
 shoulders of FIC, with Nokia and Swisscom pushing to help, and Google playing 
 the game with a hidden hand too.
Well this crono y for presentation very introductory oriented, to make
the propoject known to also GNU/Linux public, you orientation is more
for a market/business oportunity one, and maybe is a little to preach to
already converted ;)
But yes this part of Openmoko story is pretty interesting and must be
telled. I will try to work on this later.
 
   Otherwise don't miss the Dash Express deal:
 http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/dash-express-powered-by-openmokos-neo-open-source-hardware-plat/
 my guess is that was a key early success to the company.
Ok I will add it.
 
   I also expect the significance of the Koolu deal to be clearer before the 
 end of the year (they must be NDAed to the ears), so if you have a 'future' 
 section in your talk, don't forget them.
I like the NDAed to the ears expresion :)
 
 Minh
 
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Openmoko cronology

2008-11-09 Thread David Samblas
I want to do a presentation for next friday and one of the point I want
to reflex is the quick evolution of the Openmoko project but I realize
there is no place with a clear cronologie so I will try to post things I
have found spreaded in wiki, press releases and over the web to try to
have some kind of time line.

? 2006 Openmoko was anounced by his founder FIC
Nov 2006 Openmoko annouce the Neo1973
Jul 2007 Neo1973 out to the real world
Jan 2008 Openmoko announce the Neo FreeRunner
Feb 2008 Last Neo1973 sold from Openmoko
Jun 2008 Neo FreeRunner Hits the real world
Jul 2008 FSO milestone 2
Aug 2008 OM2008.8, Debian on Freerunner, Qtopia 4.3.2, Schematics
published
Sep 2008 FSO milestone 3, FDOM, NeoTool, Gentoo, Gestures,
Remoko,Numptyphisycs
Oct 2008 Qt Extended 4.4.1, OM2008.9, http://opkg.org, more than 7 web
browsers, rasteman illume images,QI,Duke3d, Pingus
Nov 2008 Android beta image, FDOMizer, QT EXtended 4.4.2, Doom

Help will be apreciated I want to matain it as simple as posible to
presentetation but a more detailed on in the wiki will be awesome to
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Re: Yet Another OpenMoko Presentation

2008-11-08 Thread David Samblas
Count with an Spanish translation in short too :)

El sáb, 08-11-2008 a las 01:34 +, Tim Dobson escribió:
 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
  I will try to make a pt_PT translation.
  
  Done! While there isn't a wiki page, it's at:
  
  http://blog.1407.org/2008/11/08/apresentacao-sobre-o-openmoko/
 
 Wow!
 
 This has really made my day! :D
 
 Thank you, I feel honoured that you thought it was worth translating!
 
 Tim
 
 P.S. I added your translation to 
 http://files.tdobson.net/openmoko/freerunner/presentation/
 


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Re: Yet Another OpenMoko Presentation

2008-11-08 Thread David Samblas
El sáb, 08-11-2008 a las 12:38 +0100, David Samblas escribió:
 Count with an Spanish translation in short too :)
 
I want to use it in more general presentation of openmoko not FDOM
focused, Can I make a smooth version regarding other distributions...
you have been ummh eemmhh a little mh rough?
:)
Regards 
 El sáb, 08-11-2008 a las 01:34 +, Tim Dobson escribió:
  Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
   I will try to make a pt_PT translation.
   
   Done! While there isn't a wiki page, it's at:
   
   http://blog.1407.org/2008/11/08/apresentacao-sobre-o-openmoko/
  
  Wow!
  
  This has really made my day! :D
  
  Thank you, I feel honoured that you thought it was worth translating!
  
  Tim
  
  P.S. I added your translation to 
  http://files.tdobson.net/openmoko/freerunner/presentation/
  
 
 
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Re: [android] Answer calll problems

2008-11-07 Thread David Samblas
El jue, 06-11-2008 a las 15:46 -0800, Gothnet escribió:
 Well colour me impressed. I've had a play with android on the Freerunner and
 (no disrespect to the openmoko guys) it's renewed my faith that the device
 will some day be useable as a phone.
To increase a little more your believes , imagine you can have the best
of the two worlds, as Rasterman has said before is possible to have in
future(and seeing the rhythm this community works, in near future)
android+gtk+java+qt+e17 apps living peacefully together in this little
device.
 
 Managed to get it running, import contacts from the SIM and make calls, with
 acceptable volume and none of the echo that the OM distros suffered from.
 
 There's a lot that's not working (receive calls for instance) but this looks
 really good guys. Kudos and thanks.

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Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread David Samblas
El mar, 04-11-2008 a las 15:48 +0100, Cédric Berger escribió:
 On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 15:43, Eildert Groeneveld
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tuesday 04 November 2008, Denis Galvão wrote:
  Could you send us your u-boot version?
  its todays download from the daily build:
 
   gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin   04-Nov-2008 01:46  211K
 
 
 Mine (working ok) was 23 sept.
 
 (And I am updating to latest now)
 
 Note that I just tried booting from NOR u-boot and it goes to black 
 screen.
 
Still no luck here :(
from http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/
dfu-util   04-Nov-2008 01:46
gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin  04-Nov-2008 01:46

from http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/
androidfs.jffs2 04-Nov-2008 12:05 
uImage-android  04-Nov-2008 12:13

tested with all uSD and sim combination possible

please try to upload this working u-boot image anywhere let me know if you need 
a place.

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Re: [android]Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread David Samblas
confirmed was the uSD without ext3 partition issue
Now I see the two robots on boot. 
first boot
just after I put the pin code it sudenly shuttdown
but looks cool thath red leed on the power button :)
second boot
it doen't recongnice my pin code twice and suddenly shutdown again

well is first image :) at least it boots :)

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Re: [android]Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread David Samblas
El mar, 04-11-2008 a las 14:48 -0200, Denis Galvão escribió:
 What you did with the uSD?
 
 Just created an ext3 partition? Nothing more?
 
Yes so simply that hurts :)
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 On 04/11/2008, at 14:39, David Samblas wrote:
 
  confirmed was the uSD without ext3 partition issue
  Now I see the two robots on boot.
  first boot
  just after I put the pin code it sudenly shuttdown
  but looks cool thath red leed on the power button :)
  second boot
  it doen't recongnice my pin code twice and suddenly shutdown again
 
  well is first image :) at least it boots :)
 
  Regards
  David Samblas
 
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Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread David Samblas
El mar, 04-11-2008 a las 04:46 -0800, Hire escribió:
 
 
 Cédric Berger wrote:
  
  On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 16:58, Martin Vyšný [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Port done. Somebody build the images! :-)
  http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/7be8ec2e4dae9fd6#
 
  http://benno.id.au/images/android_on_neo1973.jpg
 
  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3
 
  
  
  Ok, thanks to Sean first image is online !
  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3
  
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 On a FR doesn't work, I see only a black screen.

After more than 6 mins I can confirm that only a black screen appears :(

I know google was minimalistic but this is al little bit exagerated :),
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Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread David Samblas
El mar, 04-11-2008 a las 13:33 +0100, Cédric Berger escribió:
 On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 16:58, Martin Vyšný [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Port done. Somebody build the images! :-)
  http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/7be8ec2e4dae9fd6#
 
  http://benno.id.au/images/android_on_neo1973.jpg
 
  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3
 
 
 
 Ok, thanks to Sean first image is online !
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3

NAND on fire! I'm already flashing right now :)
 
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Re: DOOM For Neo Freerunner / 1973

2008-11-02 Thread David Samblas
El dom, 02-11-2008 a las 01:13 -0700, SCarlson escribió:
 
  Good evening everyone. I'd like to introduce the DOOM port I've been
 working on. Here's the  http://unsyncopated.com/BrainSolvent/Doom%
 20Port
 wiki , where you will find some documentation and videos. Here is the 
 http://opendoom.googlecode.com/files/opendoom_0.1_armv4t.ipk ipkg
 file.
 
 I've implemented a full touch screen only interface for you Neo 1973
 guys
 out there! Please see Finger-Tippng on wiki. (There is also a video
 demo).
 
 And of course I can't forget the rest of us who have a sense of
 gravity!
 (Yes, you can strafe).
 
 Drop me a line if you want to get a multi-player game fired up. I'd
 like to
 test the network play over wifi.
 
 Enjoy!
 
 -Scott R Carlson
Really really good job :) 
I ashamed but I always was a cheater in this game, How I do activate
Inmunity mode, Infinite ammo etc etc? 
Sorry this was the only way I survive more than 10 seconds shooter
games ;)

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Re: GNUboy-port: input method

2008-11-02 Thread David Samblas
snip
El dom, 02-11-2008 a las 16:58 +0100, Thomas Bertani escribió:
 good job for the keyboard but the port was already done by me some
 weeks ago: check on the mailing list
 
 2008/11/2 Pieter Colpaert [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Hi,
  I did this on the gta01, so I don't know if this is going to work on the
  freerunner: I've made a small script so you can play any gameboy (color)
  game you'd like.
snip
Thomas, Pieter,
Any chance of using ilumme keyboard on this?, I can be easy to define a
GNUboy keyboard but I find no way to show at same time as gnuboy

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Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-02 Thread David Samblas

El dom, 02-11-2008 a las 17:42 +0100, Franky Van Liedekerke escribió:
 On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 16:58:58 +0100
 Martin Vyšný [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 16:55 -0400, Jim Ancona wrote:
   Peter Neubauer wrote:
Thanks for the fast reply,
will keep an eye on that!
   
   Some more links:
   
   Ben Leslie's blog:
   http://benno.id.au/blog/
   
   Google's android-porting mailing list: 
   http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting
   
   Jim
   
  
  Port done. Somebody build the images! :-)
  http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/7be8ec2e4dae9fd6#
  
  http://benno.id.au/images/android_on_neo1973.jpg
  
  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3
  
  vyzivus
  
 
 Is the koolu version any different or not? I'm looking at the screens
 on http://koolu.com/ and it seems cool ...
 
 Franky

Waiting for that image to be published too :)
 
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Re: DOOM For Neo Freerunner / 1973

2008-11-02 Thread David Samblas
El dom, 02-11-2008 a las 16:13 -0800, SCarlson escribió:
 
 David, 
  
   I am looking into just exposing the cheats as booleans in the CFG file.
 This will take me a few days to get around to it. For the time being you
 could go usb keyboard? Then save a game (doesn't it remember?)
I will have to googling a bit to remember, Some time have passed since I
was a Doom teenage junkie :)
I happy to see you have thought on cheaters too ;) 
 
 
 Speaking of saved games, I will be slapping in a time/date stamped save game
 names, (since we can't type in our own!)
good idea :)
 
 Scott
 
 
 David Samblas Martinez wrote:
  
  El dom, 02-11-2008 a las 01:13 -0700, SCarlson escribió:
  
   Good evening everyone. I'd like to introduce the DOOM port I've been
  working on. Here's the  http://unsyncopated.com/BrainSolvent/Doom%
  20Port
  wiki , where you will find some documentation and videos. Here is the 
  http://opendoom.googlecode.com/files/opendoom_0.1_armv4t.ipk ipkg
  file.
  
  I've implemented a full touch screen only interface for you Neo 1973
  guys
  out there! Please see Finger-Tippng on wiki. (There is also a video
  demo).
  
  And of course I can't forget the rest of us who have a sense of
  gravity!
  (Yes, you can strafe).
  
  Drop me a line if you want to get a multi-player game fired up. I'd
  like to
  test the network play over wifi.
  
  Enjoy!
  
  -Scott R Carlson
  Really really good job :) 
  I ashamed but I always was a cheater in this game, How I do activate
  Inmunity mode, Infinite ammo etc etc? 
  Sorry this was the only way I survive more than 10 seconds shooter
  games ;)
  
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Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-02 Thread David Samblas

not yet
El lun, 03-11-2008 a las 08:35 +0100, Leonti Bielski escribió:
 What about the input method?
 Does it have a virtual keyboard of some kind?
 Leonti
 
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Re: New home for the New FDOM

2008-10-30 Thread David Samblas
Please send it to me and I will upload it,
:)
El jue, 30-10-2008 a las 11:07 +, Vasco Névoa escribió:
 I've also tried FDOMizer yesterday, and I had to patch it by hand in a  
 few cases. Mainly, I had to update a few download links from  
 angstrom-distribution.org .
 
 Citando Jonathan Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  I just tried updating my FDOM using FDOMizer from the 20080927  
  version and have had some gains but a few losses and problems.
 
  Some of the applications work but others (notably GnuChess and  
  Openmoocow) don't.  In particular GnuChess just goes and consumes  
  all available CPU without apparently doing anything.  OpenMooCow  
  doesn't appear to do anything either but at least doesn't take any  
  CPU time.
 
  I'm guessing here but I'd think that all those forced dependencies  
  are likely to be causing problems.  For example I only have gtk+ v  
  2.10.14-r2 instead of 2.12.11;  libglib-2.0.0 v 2.6.16.1-r4 instead  
  of 2.16.4; libcairo2 v 1.4.10-r0 instead of 1.6.4.  Should I be  
  using a different repository here?
 
  There were a couple of files that the script attempted to download  
  from angsgtrom that weren't available.  Curiously enough the files  
  that are available are older versions than those requested by the  
  script.  These are:
 
  http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/libpurple-protocol-msn_2.5.1-r0.1_armv4t.ipk
  http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/libpurple-libjabber_2.5.0-r0_armv4t.ipk
 
  There was something funny about the rc.local file, which the script  
  update-rc.d expected to find in /etc/init.d but which were in /etc   
  I copied it then re-ran update-rc.d and things looked a bit better.
 
  I suspect that I'd be better off abandoning the FDOMizer script and  
  reinstalling the latest version, which seems a pity because update  
  scripts are a great idea.
 
  Cheers, Jonathan
 
 
 
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Re: LED and vibrator testing GUI

2008-10-30 Thread David Samblas


El jue, 30-10-2008 a las 04:19 +0100, Bastiaan Hovestreydt escribió:
 Hi,
 
 sorry, but I couldn't stop Apache from trying to execute the script
 other than renaming it, so its now here [1].
 
 
 Bastiaan
 
 [1] http://openmoko.hovestreydt.com/download/leds
 
 
 
 Bastiaan Hovestreydt wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I don't know if somebody else did this already, but I didn't find
  anything in the wiki...
  I wrote a small Python script to quickly turn the LEDs of the Freerunner
  on and off for testing purposes. There's also has a slider to set the
  intensity of the vibrator. But since I don't anything about Python I
  only altered the mokoservices.py to fulfill my needs and tested it only
  under FDOM, so please be gentle :-) The script is available for download
  here [1].
  I'm also planning on putting some more buttons in the original
  mokoservices.py to put the device in USB host mode, so let me know if
  your interested.
We have also comment to include some kind of usb control to change to to
usb mass storage mode!!! So Yes I'm interested and surelly like me there
some more :) 
  
  Bastiaan
  
  [1] http://openmoko.hovestreydt.com/download/leds.py
  
  
  
  
  
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RE: [FDOM] opkg install pidgin fails with 'An error occured, return value: 2.'

2008-10-30 Thread David Samblas
be carefull, if you add the angstrom repo  opkg will  try to upgrade
some core libraries of the system like dbus or gtk, this will put FDOM
and any 2008.X in a even more unestable state :)
El jue, 30-10-2008 a las 21:49 +, Matthias Camenzind escribió:
 Try this: 
 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2007/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/pidgin_2.2.1-r0_armv4t.ipk
 or add Angstrom Repository to your opkg source: 
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Repositories#Angstrom_Repository
 adding repository should be the better way, cause after you can install also 
 some plugins with opkg.
 Else manually load from 
 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2007/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/
 
  Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:38:17 +1300
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  Subject: Re: [FDOM] opkg install pidgin fails with 'An error occured,   
  return value: 2.'
  
  2008/10/31 Tim Churchard :
  So my questions are:  What's happened for opkg to give a return 2?  And
  where should my /etc/opkg/*conf files be pointing?
  
  i'm pretty sure that means it isn't found in the repo, at least under that 
  name
  
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Re: Touchscreen scratch protection

2008-10-29 Thread David Samblas
Chris, you have open the hunting season :-)

If you are from Spain, Portugal or Andorra you can also purcharse this
virtually indestructible protection from
http://www.tuxbrain.net/shop/product_info.php?products_id=34

A little bit more expesive at first look but you will save in shipments
cost and mainly for Spain, a lot of headaches with our National Postal
Agency, I deliver in 24 after payment confirmation :-) in those
countries.
Rest of Europe better do it through Chris, (in this case ;-) ) 


El mar, 28-10-2008 a las 09:14 +0200, Christoph Pulster escribió:
  The default plastic protection of my screen is giving up after only a
  few days of use. Does anyone know of a good alternative
 
 The plastic protection shipped with the Freerunner is mainly a
 shipping protection, which can be removed once you have your Openmoko in  
 hands. For everyday use, try a real screen protection. I recommand the  
 Zagg invisible Shield Full body. I sell it for 24,90 EUR
 http://www.pulster.de/engl/ 
 index.html?d__omfolie__OpenMoko_invisible_Shield_Full_Body_coverage789.h 
 tm
 
 see pictures in the Wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/InvisibleShield
 
 
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Re: Contacts - Fdom vs. OM2008.8

2008-10-28 Thread David Samblas
El mar, 28-10-2008 a las 16:50 +1000, nick d. escribió:
 Hmm i found that too Yaroslav. Would definitely be handy. Also the
 keyboard is almost incompatible. When you type in a name and select
 it, the keyboard puts in a space character which yields no results
 until you backspace. Is there a way to get the keyboard to lose
 predictive text so it can sort on the fly?
I'm using the illume terminal keyboard for that, but as I remember if
you maintain a key for a few , it will override the predictive thing
and put directly that letter. 
 
 -nick
 
 On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Yaroslav Halchenko
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   ps : well , fdom is not V om , those guys are working on
 stability thing ,
   we are working on feature , funny , fat and dirty things!
  One of those dirty things is change config files, the
 standard 2008.9
  has this feature you only have tell it to not be so shy and
 show it :)
  If you look at the FDOMizer. script you will find all the
 dirty thing we
  have done to it :)
 
 according to git log and
 
 http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/commitlog/2008-September/006060.html
 
 holger enabled it in qtopia build in september ... but for
 some reason
 it wasn't enabled by default
 
 also it seems to be not 'patched' in the view of contacts
 whenever it is
 called from the dialer (person icon) -- and that is the most
 often
 place where I look for contacts... now I will need to start
 contacts
 first I guess, heh heh
 
 or may be Holger would add 1 more patch in the right spot? ;-)
 
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Re: Fdom speed (was Re: New home for the New FDOM)

2008-10-28 Thread David Samblas
Use top on a ssh sesion on a externa pc conected trough usb
El mar, 28-10-2008 a las 11:56 +0100, Pander escribió:
 I mean short interval and non disturbing logging top while doing normal
 phone functions. Looking at top in a terminal and testing phone functions
 do not go together easily. Any ideas?
 
 On Tue, October 28, 2008 09:09, Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
  On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Pander [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  What simple ananlysis could be started in a terminal to gather data
  about what is eating what during usage? These results should indicate
  why FDOM is s slow and what should be done to speed it up.
 
  top?
 
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Re: Call for mirrors for FDOM

2008-10-27 Thread David Samblas
El lun, 27-10-2008 a las 10:06 +, Alastair Johnson escribió:
 Matt wrote:
  Why not use bittorrent?
  Then everyone who benefits, can also contribute, effortlessly.
 
 Because I don't have a torrent tracker that I can immediately stick 
 content on, while I do have a web server ready and waiting. I may have a 
 look at adding torrents, but working with David to automate the 
 mirroring will be a higher priority.
True, I'm looking for do an script to rotate through aviable mirrors on
each page load, 
Also It will be interesting all those friends offering his mirrors to
know if they reply on period basis or on demand to advise/or schedule my
self whatever changes I have to upload.

I'm looking for the bittorrent solution too, I will report any news on
that.

Thanks you all :)

 
  Alastair Johnson wrote:
  Alastair Johnson wrote:

  David Samblas wrote:
  
  Well some of you have send me a mail about my site is little bit
  slow ... taking in count I have served about 20Gb in less than 2 days is
  with peaks of 1 Gb/hour , slow is at least a good performance :)
 
  I will try to make a script to balance beetween me an the mirrors but
  actually there is only one updated
  http://files.tdobson.net/openmoko/freerunner/fdom/  thanks Tim :)
 
  Thanks to you all for your support :)

  I should have our mirror updated by tomorrow morning UK time.
  
  Mirror now available at:
 
  http://openmoko.truebox.co.uk/mirror/ftp.tuxbrain.com/openmoko/fdom/releases/
 
 
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Re: Contacts - Fdom vs. OM2008.8

2008-10-26 Thread David Samblas
El dom, 26-10-2008 a las 20:02 +0330, Armin ranjbar escribió:
 On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:18:40 -0700 (PDT)
 heat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  Probably it's a silly topic ...
  but why contacts in FDOM shows a line for searching and 2008.8 (upgraded)
  not ??
  FDOM is build upon 2008.8, isn't it ?
  
  Thank you.
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 emm...
 
 aaa
 
 because Fdom rocks!!! 
X-D
 
 
 ps : well , fdom is not V om , those guys are working on stability thing ,
 we are working on feature , funny , fat and dirty things!
One of those dirty things is change config files, the standard 2008.9
has this feature you only have tell it to not be so shy and show it :)
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Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release

2008-10-26 Thread David Samblas
Marc, those it need to update the modules too?
El lun, 27-10-2008 a las 00:47 +0100, Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
escribió:
 Geoff Ruscoe ha scritto:
  So I'm downloading the new FDOM image, but unfortunately I don't see
  what kernel I should use with it.
  
  Is there a best kernel to go with it?
 
 If you want, give a try to this [1]. It includes the latest cool patches
  (better NAND performances, less power usage on LCD off, improved Glamo
 speed, better touchscreen event handling) from stable and andy...
 
 Bye!
 
 [1]
 http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/uImage-gta02-stable-3v1n0-git-mixture.bin
 
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Re: FDOM pet Tux (other distros too)

2008-10-24 Thread David Samblas
El jue, 23-10-2008 a las 22:18 +0200, Minh Ha Duong escribió:
 Hi David,
 
   There is a purple brained Tux on the FDOM page at
 http://www.tuxbrain.com/fdom_en.html
Looks cool, isn't it ? :)
 
 Is that FDOM's pet or your company's ?
FDOM's, Is a Fat and Dirty penguin with brained reminiscence :) 
 If it's FDOM, is the picture copyleft ?
Yes
 If it is copyleft, would you care to add it to 
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FDOM_-_a_Fat_and_Dirty_OM_based_distribution ?
I will as soon as I can :)
 
 The wiki s needs more pretty pictures.
I will try to add some screen captures too, when my neo comes back from
a brief  the demo tour
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Re: New home for the New FDOM

2008-10-23 Thread David Samblas
Quoting Matt Luzum [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Also, the tarball unpacks everything into var/tmp/root/.  If I move
 everything from there into the root directory of the SD partition it
 boots, although I can't start contacts or the dialer.  That could be
 something I did wrong, though.
No surely something I did wrong
any body sees what's wrong in this sentece to make a tarball of a neo rootfs?

#ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] tar -cp /var/tmp/root -C /var/tmp/root|gzip -   
Fat_and_Dirty_OM.200808-updates.20080909.rootfs.tar.gz


 What kernel should we be using with this?
the standard OM200809 kernel



 Ben Hussey wrote:
 The link titled, ftp://ftp.tuxbrain.com/openmoko/fdom/releases, points
 to the same url but with FDOM in capital letters.  So I get a file not
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Re: Pingus ported

2008-10-18 Thread David Samblas
just do a simple script in  Duke3d way and call it instead pingus
directly

#!/bin/bash
xrandr -o 1
pingus
xrandr -o 0
El sáb, 18-10-2008 a las 22:16 +0100, BS - João Vieira escribió:
 isn't there a way that the game rotates by itself instead we giving command 
 line instructions?
 
 
 On Saturday 18 October 2008, Tobias Kündig wrote:
  You have to rotate the screen to landscape.

  Look here for more information:p
  http://www.opkg.org/package_27.html
 
  Regards,
  Tobias
 
  Patrick Beck schrieb:
   Hello,
  
   i have installed the needed packages and i get this message when i try
   to start pingus
  
   --
   Welcome to Pingus 0.7.2!
   
   data path:   /usr/bin/../share/pingus/data/
   language:English (en)
   font encoding:   iso-8859-1
   sound support:   enabled
   music support:   enabled
   resolution:  800x600
   fullscreen:  disabled
  
   Unable to set video mode: No video mode large enough for 800x600
  
   --
  
   How can i change the resolution?
  
   Thanks for the port.
  
   with kind regards
  
   Patrick
  
   Am Samstag, den 18.10.2008, 16:06 +0200 schrieb Sander van Grieken:
   Hi All,
  
   I'm glad to report that I've managed to port Pingus, the free lemmings
   clone, for OE based distributions (it was already available on
   Debian).
  
   I have submitted the bitbake recipe and patches to Openembedded, but
   there's no need to wait while these trickle down the various branches.
   I have created the binaries for you.
  
   On both FSO and OM2008.8 you can install
  
   http://3v8.net/~sander/openmoko/libboost-signals1.33.1_1.33.1-r3_armv4t.
  ipk
  
   http://3v8.net/~sander/openmoko/pingus_0.7.2-r0_armv4t.ipk
  
   Also libpng3 must be installed, but I haven't been able to get the
   dependency right, so you'll need to do that manually.
  
   Note: for OM2008.8, you need to have the testing feeds to get recent
   enough SDL packages.
  
   more information is at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Sander
  
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Re: Back to the basics: improving user experience

2008-10-16 Thread David Samblas
El jue, 16-10-2008 a las 15:47 +0800, John Lee escribió:
 Hi,
 
 Like Wolfgang said in
 http://n2.nabble.com/Weekly-Engineering-News-41-2008-td1336450.html
 
 We assembled a team to focus on improving the user experience.  Here
 is our todo list at the moment:
 
 * Reduce boot time.
ok
 
 * Optimize the touch screen driver on freerunner for finger usage.
 
for me is quite good right now but any improvement are welcome
 * A generic python loader to enhance the start up time of python
   scripts.
YES PLEASE :) this will allow script kiddies like me to help in high
level development and utilities on the phone
 
 * Work with system team to improve suspend/resume user experience.
yes, 
 
 
 I would like to ask the community:
 
 What do you want us to work on?
 
 
 The idea is
 
 * We improve the current stack, not creating new features.
ok, there a lot of thirparty apps out there than can provide new
features, but they need a rock solid base to be totally cool
 
 * Prefer stuffs which could be brought over to gta03 instead of
   gta02/om2008 specific.
Not totally agree here, some(a lot of) effort must be done in current
specific gta02 , a clear example is the famous glamo chipset, you are
the only ones who can improve it due NDA as some one else has pointed,
you must struggle(even more) this chipset to extract until the last drop
of it juice.  
 
 * won't work on om2007 stack.
Better make efforts on FSO 
 
 
 So, tell us what you want, then the coding monkeys will start working!
 :)
just work on the basics as you have pointed, and the basic is all
hardware must work without any blocking bug(alas stability) and inside
this stability do it as fast as phisicaly posible.
Fancy apps will come from the community and porting from other distros,
thats the magic on free source :)
 
 
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Re: New Rasterman Image...

2008-10-15 Thread David Samblas
El mié, 15-10-2008 a las 20:31 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra escribió:
 On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 09:12:44PM +0200, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
  Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
   In the enlightenment archives there's a new Rasterman image:
  
  New updates from Rasterman (ehy, why don't you add RSS feeds to your
  site?! :P): http://www.rasterman.com/.
  
  To underline a new image [1] and some scripts to get the same by
  compiling [2]. In his files folder there's also a nice mockup for the
  GTA03 hw [3]!
  
  [1] http://download.enlightenment.org/misc/Illume/Freerunner/2008-10-12/
  [2] http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/TMP/oe
  [3] http://www.rasterman.com/files/gta03-idea-1.png
 
 Have you tried it already?
I have tried,  it has an tree apps an alarm, a screenshotter and a
terminal. looks very pretty and lovely, I'm still guessin why OM has no
agree with raster on what the phone software has to look like
 
 Does it work? (ie, does it make/receive calls? can you hear and be
 listented to?)
You have to install somethings to arrive to do this, is more a proof of
concept of what a Illume can look like in the Neo than a intention of
have a working phone. I dream a day that I can aply this directly with
an opkg install to a working official OM distro. 
 
BTW, regarding http://www.rasterman.com/files/gta03-idea-1.png I like a
lot all the design less one detail, raster let's start again a qvga vs
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Re: Openmoko to shift to 2.6.27 kernel ?

2008-10-13 Thread David Samblas
El lun, 13-10-2008 a las 00:42 -0400, Joel Newkirk escribió:
 On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:29:53 +0100, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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  Qi boots like a dream - no kernel messages scrolling by, just turns on
  backlight on a black screen for about 5 seconds (heartstopper of sorts
  the
  first time) then the graphical boot progress screen appears.  I'd
  guesstimate that overall boot time was improved perhaps 15%.
  
  Great.
  
  NOTE for other 'daredevils':  Qi does NOT provide a boot menu. (at least
  not that I could find, not at this point)  The usual NOR uBoot menu you
  use
  
  Right Qi's concept is it leaves everything possible to Linux, that
  includes even the video init.  You can use NOR U-Boot on Freerunner to
  do DFU or other U-Boot specific stuff.  Qi has a list of bootable
  devices and currently will try uSD partition 1 for /boot/uImage.bin, if
  that is not working out then it will try the NAND kernel partition.
 
  Currently 2.6.27 doesn't do mtd properly and blows chunks with these CRC
  errors, didn't find why yet.  But it does work with uSD boot on ext3 OK.
 
  The red LED thing is what we do on kernel panic... it's panicking
  because it can't mount the jffs2 part because of the CRC errors, then it
  has no rootfs.
 
  Thanks a lot for trying it and reporting it, you'll get further with uSD
  boot right now.
 
 
 I finally realized that you meant boot from uSD-based system, rather than
 just pull the kernel from uSD - I tried 2.6.27 and 2008.8-update uImage
 in /media/card/boot and just got blinking red kernel panic LED.
 
 Now I've successfully booted from uSD with Base Image and 2.6.27. Linux
 om-gta02 2.6.27-andy-tracking_2ffb4cc483642df1-mokodev #12 PREEMPT Sat Oct
 11 13:06:05 BST 2008 armv4tl unknown.  (although every other attempt or so
 it seems to hang at a blank console with a blinking cursor, not really
 mapped that behavior out yet)
 
 Which one way or another goes to highlight that Qi - as it stands now and
 from what I understand of the intention for it - will not be usable for a
 dual-boot setup.  Not a problem actually, as NOR uBoot will let us achieve
 that, and I realize that the common target case will be a user who wants a
 smartphone, not a multiboot development platform.  I just realized that the
 default behavior of Qi being uSD and the default behavior of uBoot being
 NAND means you could place 'primary' on uSD and 'secondary' in NAND, and
 booting to secondary is just two-step - NOR boot with aux+power, then power
 again to boot.  Don't you love that feeling when things start to click? :) 
 Now I have Base/Empty firing up by default, Raster+FSO if I use aux to
 invoke NOR Uboot.
 
 j
I'm not a kernel hacker only a user, but as I undertand It would be
better to invert that behaviour, better to primary boot from NAND and
then secondary boot on uSD, a normal user must boot his phone even
without any uSD. Normal boot to nand, and if you want to boot from
anything else do something else. It's a pitty than NOR uboot doesn't
allow to boot from uSD by default, but this fault does't have to change
the logical behaviour NAND is attached to the phone and is less likely
blow up the hole S.O. sa mistake by a normal user putting some music in
his uSD card trough a 2.0 Card reader :) seekeng for some free space
  
 
 
 
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Re: console command history

2008-10-13 Thread David Samblas

El lun, 13-10-2008 a las 17:02 -0400, Joel Newkirk escribió:
 How can I enlarge the console command history?  I'm used to being able to
 peruse hundreds of lines of previous commands in bash, the limit to ~16
 lines is maddening.
 
 j
 
I want to know how to do is too, I'm one os those lazy up arrow
smashers :)
 
 
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Re: Openmoko to shift to 2.6.27 kernel ?

2008-10-13 Thread David Samblas
El lun, 13-10-2008 a las 11:58 -0400, Joel Newkirk escribió:
 On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:48:50 +0200, David Samblas
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  El lun, 13-10-2008 a las 00:42 -0400, Joel Newkirk escribió:
 
  Which one way or another goes to highlight that Qi - as it stands now
  and
  from what I understand of the intention for it - will not be usable for
  a
  dual-boot setup.  Not a problem actually, as NOR uBoot will let us
  achieve
  that, and I realize that the common target case will be a user who wants
  a
  smartphone, not a multiboot development platform.  I just realized that
  the
  default behavior of Qi being uSD and the default behavior of uBoot being
  NAND means you could place 'primary' on uSD and 'secondary' in NAND, and
  booting to secondary is just two-step - NOR boot with aux+power, then
  power
  again to boot.  Don't you love that feeling when things start to click?
  :) 
  Now I have Base/Empty firing up by default, Raster+FSO if I use aux to
  invoke NOR Uboot.
  
  j
  I'm not a kernel hacker only a user, but as I undertand It would be
  better to invert that behaviour, better to primary boot from NAND and
  then secondary boot on uSD, a normal user must boot his phone even
  without any uSD. Normal boot to nand, and if you want to boot from
  anything else do something else. It's a pitty than NOR uboot doesn't
  allow to boot from uSD by default, but this fault does't have to change
  the logical behaviour NAND is attached to the phone and is less likely
  blow up the hole S.O. sa mistake by a normal user putting some music in
  his uSD card trough a 2.0 Card reader :) seekeng for some free space
 
 If there's NO uSD, or the uSD doesn't contain a folder named 'boot' on the
 first partition, with a file named 'uImage.bin', then Qi will boot from
 NAND.  It's just if you WANT a dual-boot environment that currently Qi
 doesn't let you do that simply.  As Andy noted in his response to that
 post, however, he plans for Qi to support user selection of boot, it just
 doesn't do it at this time.  Until it offers the ability to select, then
 the present behavior (check for kernel on uSD, else use NAND) makes more
 sense that always going to NAND and only NAND.
 
 j
OK that make sense , I have not fully understood Qi boot mechanism thaks
for your explanation Joel :)
 
 
 
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Re: Using a webcam on the Openmoko

2008-10-10 Thread David Samblas
Bravo, :) really really cool job, It would be amazing to have something
similar in a 2008.X based distro.
If I got enough free time I will try to to make it work on FDOM but no
promises.

El jue, 09-10-2008 a las 21:47 +, Pierre Pronchery escribió:
   Hi community,
 
 I just wanted to let you know that I got a webcam to work on my
 Freerunner. I have written some instructions on the official wiki in
 both English and French:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Webcam
 
 It could be made much easier already by enabling video input support by
 default in the official kernel builds. I'll file a bug for this next
 thing.
 
 HTH,


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Re: FDOM - OMView question

2008-10-08 Thread David Samblas
slide you finger up to down in the screen will zoom out and return to
the slide show view

Regards
David Samblas
El mié, 08-10-2008 a las 10:05 +0200, Paul escribió:
 Hi all,
 
 I am running FDOM from the card at the moment, works pretty nice. I can
 see pictures! *grin*
 
 Question about that though: I can drag the picture up full-screen and even
 in zoom-view. But how does one get back to the thumbnail view from there?
 There's no control for it in sight, and pressing all the buttons doesn't
 help either. I resolved this by pulling the battery, but I doubt this is
 the standard control for it. ;-)
 
 Paul
 
 


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Re: Making sound work (was Re: New Rasterman Image...)

2008-10-07 Thread David Samblas
El mar, 07-10-2008 a las 13:24 +0200, David Samblas escribió:
 El mar, 07-10-2008 a las 12:15 +0100, David Pottage escribió:
  On Mon, October 6, 2008 12:11 am, Richy wrote:
  
   I somehow managed to get it to work to some extend. The phone isn'
   ringin, just vibrating, but I can talk and hear during a call..
  
   make sure you have gstreamer installed, also I added a lot of
   packages, with alsa, gst, openmoko-state, etc. Didn't work until
   reboot. (And due to the Neos booting-time I don't want to reboot
   after each package just to check...)
  
   Now, some PIM-software and this is near perfect :-)
  
  I am also having trouble with sound. I can hear the other party during
  calls, but apart from the The phone loudspeaker appears not to work. I
  don't get any ring tones, and I can't hear music from media plays such
  as pythm. I have installed pymixer, and have maxed out all the sliders
  but still nothing.
  
  I have also tried installing the snd_pcm_oss kernel module out of FSO,
  but it will not load due to undefined symbols.
  
  Any ideas. I am running the latest FDOM (Based on ASU 2008.9).
 have you managed to put the raster new illume in to FDOM??? :) :) I want
 to see it? an a step by 
step shell commands used will be even more cool :)

  
 


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Re: Making sound work (was Re: New Rasterman Image...)

2008-10-07 Thread David Samblas
El mar, 07-10-2008 a las 12:15 +0100, David Pottage escribió:
 On Mon, October 6, 2008 12:11 am, Richy wrote:
 
  I somehow managed to get it to work to some extend. The phone isn'
  ringin, just vibrating, but I can talk and hear during a call..
 
  make sure you have gstreamer installed, also I added a lot of
  packages, with alsa, gst, openmoko-state, etc. Didn't work until
  reboot. (And due to the Neos booting-time I don't want to reboot
  after each package just to check...)
 
  Now, some PIM-software and this is near perfect :-)
 
 I am also having trouble with sound. I can hear the other party during
 calls, but apart from the The phone loudspeaker appears not to work. I
 don't get any ring tones, and I can't hear music from media plays such
 as pythm. I have installed pymixer, and have maxed out all the sliders
 but still nothing.
 
 I have also tried installing the snd_pcm_oss kernel module out of FSO,
 but it will not load due to undefined symbols.
 
 Any ideas. I am running the latest FDOM (Based on ASU 2008.9).
have you managed to put the raster new illume in to FDOM??? :) :) I want
to see it? an a step by 
 


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Re: The Lost Openmoko Community

2008-10-04 Thread David Samblas
When some body feels lost is because he doen't planned the trip enough,
before come in strange territory you must have maps and read about uses
and customs of the aboriginal and if the case earn enough of their
language to , when if all plans fail, ask where you are and how to go
any where. 

I'm a foreigner too, but when I feel lost  I don't sit down and cry, I
search for a more actualiced guide or ask , aboriginals here are very
friendly, and even a lot of experienced foreigner are happy to help you
too.

As you post in you blog you just arrive , you take a quick look to a
totally strange territory an you complain you feel lost and not
confortable in any place here, if like you there are other, instead of
keep this flamming post growing and growing ,get you hands dirty and
began to work, you haven't to be a high kernel hacker to help, you can
translate and/or review wiki, you can focus on a app and report even
stetical issues (as some one in the post has already suggest..), 

About FDOM you have a bad perspective, FDOM is posible because a lot of
people had been working to make OM2008.08, Illume, and a every app
inside FDOM, is posible because people has make public their tweakings
in the wiki or in this list, and even talk to me or in the devel list to
make suggestions and/or directly work. FDOM has began as a shared simply
backup of my own phone, and now is near to be the first  distro that
will have their rootfs (bad) managed in a svn repository, yeah we put
the binaries and  yes we know svn was thinked  to manage source code,
but source code is not the business of FDOM right now, we are only
focused on pimping whatever OM has decide to be their base distro, if
they finally change to an FSO based distro I will be happy to pimping it
too, even If I have to redo all work from zeto. I have done it a lot of
times to test and to try to improve things. FDOM has not born for a
need, FDOM has been born thanks to all the work done before, including
the phone where it runs.
This is a public  request to all those you like FDOM, If you like FDOM
then you like OM2008.X, FDOM=OM+things already done by others ,
please stop comparation and using FDOM as weapon against itself.

I will already ask to please, stop this post right now in the tone it
has began.
 
And maybe I wrong and now i will post a personal opinion, You have your
own blog to post you opinions, you have appeared in planet, as you
already said people has post their opinions in your blog post,you have
said nothing new in this post than have not already said in you blog,
there was a need to do it?

Thanks to all to make me, and colaboratos, able to make FDOM

El sáb, 04-10-2008 a las 15:56 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa escribió:
 Hi!
 
 After my previous blog post [1] about Openmoko 2007.2 distribution and
 the Openmoko community I got some comments proving that like me, some
 other people feel that the community is lost and uninformed. This post
 is a follow up to the previous post and the comments I got.
 
 I've understood that 2007.2 still ships with the phones. As soon as
 one gets his new c00l Freerunner linux phone they need to flash the
 phone with a new distro (2008.x or Debian, FDOM, SHR, Gentoo, Qtopia,
 FSO.. [6]) since the software it ships with is obsolete. OK, so you
 get your 2008.x there and find that it doesn't really do all the magic
 and would like to report a bug.
 
 BUGS
 I don't know how others feel but I really don't feel like reporting
 bugs in the bug tracker [3]. OK, I'm running an unsupported distro
 (2007.2) so there's one reason but I also feel that it's okay to post
 kernel bugs only there, not anything that a normal user would see in
 his GUI. Is this correct or just a feeling or misunderstanding?
 Remember that all Freerunner owners and people here in the community
 are not kernel developers. I don't even know how to save back traces
 or hack the source code but I'm happy to report if something doesn't
 work and then when someone more skillful finds what's wrong and
 eventually fixes it, I'm again happy to try if the fix works for me.
 For some reason I feel that there's no space in the community for
 users like me.
 
 DISTROS
 So it's 2008.x now. No, wait.. there are FDOM [5] and SHR [2] around
 that are not far from 2008.x. Is 2007.2 still developed and lead by
 Openmoko or by the community? Do the community developers have access
 to the files so that new releases can be made or is SHR the closest to
 2007.2 you can get to? My feeling is that there was a lack of
 information about why 2007.2 was forgotten and new 2008.x series was
 started and that something weird is happening in the official distros
 that creates a need for FDOM and SHR - why don't the developers feel
 ok to contribute directly to 2007.x and 2008.x but 'fork' their own
 distros?
 
 INFORMATION
 I think that what makes me feel lost is the lack of information about
 what's happening in the community. I don't know what's the development
 status of the software 

Re: New Rasterman Image...

2008-10-02 Thread David Samblas
El jue, 02-10-2008 a las 03:18 +0200, Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
escribió:
 In the enlightenment archives there's a new Rasterman image:
  - openmoko-illume-image-glibc-ipk--20080929-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 [1]
 It looks so cool with the new illume theme [2] [3] [4] [5] [6], but
 practically it has no telephony related software installed in since it
 seems a simple OE built with these scripts [7], so (I figure) that
 you're free to put in both the FSO and/or the Om2008.8 stack, just
 install the needed packages!
Any way to doing this inverted? from a already build 2008.9 stack add
this beautifull front end?
 
 Bye.
 
 
 [1] http://download.enlightenment.org/misc/Illume/
 [2] http://forum.telefoninux.org/index.php/topic,533.0/topicseen.html
 [3] http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-01.ogg
 [4] http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-02.ogg
 [5] http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-03.ogg
 [6] http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-04.ogg
 [7] http://www.rasterman.com/files/oe-setup.tar.gz
 


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Re: [FDOM] Kernel panic?

2008-10-02 Thread David Samblas
Hi Matthew please verify if you have downloaded the full file because
sometimes the compartida.net server truncate the file to make sure you
have downloaded use wget -c and the url of the file, or better use one
of the mirrors of the wiki adn try again.


El jue, 02-10-2008 a las 16:04 -0400, Matthew Lane escribió:
 I'm getting a kernel panic when I flash the lastest FDOM (20080927).  
 I'm using the latest 2008.9 kernel, could this be the issue?  FDOM 
 doesn't seem to supply a kernel to use, but I'd think that the 2008.09 
 kernel would be fine.
 
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Re: [FDOM 080927] Modem jokes on SIM entries

2008-10-01 Thread David Samblas
Ok thats why I was unable to reproduce the issue, I allways have
dissabled auto suspend, I suspend manually and I usually do a lot of
things once the neo boots up before and I deatached it from the pc.

Any one with same experience on a raw 2008.9 instalation?, if not maybe
amstrong demux has become more inestable than expected. I we have to
redo this part to have gprs and gsm at same time. or it is also included
on 2008.9? some guiadance on alternatives or posible workarrounds will
be apreciated :)

Thanks
El mié, 01-10-2008 a las 13:33 +0530, Devendra Gera escribió:
 On Wed, 01 Oct 2008, madis wrote:
 
  After registering if I try to open the phone book I see only message 
  Loading Sim...
  I can't see my phone book content in Sim and my FR behaves very 
  strangely also.
  I can't receive calls if somebody calls. My FR rings, but I am unable
  to press the answer button, the touch screen is not responding.
  The screen itself is ok, because all other times it works.
  I can't make any phone calls, my FR says it's dialing the number,
  but nothing happens in reality.
 
 I encounter the same issues. I have noticed that disabling auto suspend
 and not doing _anything_ related to SIM or suspend (which means no
 calls, no contacts, no messages etc.) until after ~5 minutes *after* GSM
 registration helps. Then I try and make a call to my operator to verify
 that everything work, and only then suspend manually. Doing this ensures
 my phone keeps working when it wakes up.
 
 I have noticed that accessing SIM contacts even beyond this procedure
 breaks suspend and/or calling unpredictably. I tend to avoid using SIM
 contacts a much as I can.
 
 --gera.
 
 
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gsmhandset state file to test

2008-10-01 Thread David Samblas
Hi there on of our colleges[1] of the spanish list has provided us with
an gsmhanset state file that solves low volume on call reciver , I
have barelly tested it alone with a phone en each ear :). I will test it
further along the day and post the results, any one else willing to try
is wellcome to do it.

from neo or ssh console
cd /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/
mv gsmhandset.state gsmhandset.state.original
wget http://n2.nabble.com/attachment/1129707/0/gsmhandset.state

[1]The original post
http://n2.nabble.com/-Fwd%3A-eco-y-audio--tc1129707ef1958.html




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Re: Stable OM distro

2008-10-01 Thread David Samblas
I believe a lot of us are keeping our breath and crossing the fingers.
for that promising 4.4, but I'm a little confused about the openess of
the premium modules.


El mié, 01-10-2008 a las 15:56 -0600, Vince M. Clark escribió:
 I'm assuming you are referring to Qtopia 4.3 right? It was close but
 not quite there. I have very high hopes for 4.4.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: t m [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: List for Openmoko community discussion
 community@lists.openmoko.org
 Sent: Wednesday, October 1, 2008 2:56:00 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver
 Subject: Re: Stable OM distro
 
 You can try FDOM. It's somewhat bloated, but works nicely for
 me. 
 
 Nice, I will try this as well. Even Qtopia didn't work out for me.
 Other users have the same experience? It usually takes a while before
 problems show, and I'm really hoping I will be able to at least phone
 and sms with a normal battery life (and resume that works)
 
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Re: [2008.9] installing lint-wifi

2008-09-30 Thread David Samblas
This is an old friend bug luckily easy to solve.

edit the  /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py file

go to line 82 and add an underscore at the beginnig of the init() then
it must looks like _init() thats all.

Some one will fix this some day in the OE repositorie

Regards
David Samblas

El mar, 30-09-2008 a las 07:27 +0200, Matthias Apitz escribió:
 Hello,
 
 I've tried to install 'lint-wifi' following the Wiki:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Lint-wifi
 
 fetched lint-wifi_0.1_armv4t.ipk and later because of missing gtk for
 python in addition python-pygtk_2.10.4-ml7_armv4t.opk (btw: what is the
 difference between *.ipk and *.opk ?)
 
 installing python-pygtk_2.10.4-ml7_armv4t.opk fetched some dependencies:
 
 # opkg install python-pygtk_2.10.4-ml7_armv4t.opk
 Multiple packages (python-pygtk and python-pygtk) providing same name marked 
 HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
 Installing python-pygtk (2.10.4-ml7) to root...
 Installing python-shell (2.5.2-ml0) to root...
 Downloading 
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/python-shell_2.5.2-ml0_armv4t.opk
 Installing python-pycairo (1.4.0-ml1) to root...
 Downloading 
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/python-pycairo_1.4.0-ml1_armv4t.opk
 Installing python-pygobject (2.12.3-r3) to root...
 Downloading 
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/python-pygobject_2.12.3-r3_armv4t.opk
 Installing libglade-2.0-0 (2.6.2-r2) to root...
 Downloading 
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/libglade-2.0-0_2.6.2-r2_armv4t.opk
 Configuring libglade-2.0-0
 Configuring python-pycairo
 Configuring python-pygobject
 Configuring python-pygtk
 Configuring python-shell
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# 
 
 but launching 'lint-wifi.py' fails with:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# lint-wifi.py
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /usr/bin/lint-wifi.py, line 9, in module
 import gtk, os
   File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py, line 82, 
 in module
 init()
 NameError: name 'init' is not defined
 
 Any idea what I have done wrong? Thx
 
   matthias


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Re: [FDOM] pidgin bug

2008-09-28 Thread David Samblas
try instaling this packages, them should provide ssl and irc protocol to
pidgin
 opkg -force-depends install
http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/libpurple-plugin-ssl_2.5.0-r0_armv4t.ipk

 opkg -force-depends install
http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/libpurple-plugin-ssl-nss_2.5.0-r0_armv4t.ipk

 opkg -force-depends install
http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/libpurple-plugin-ssl-gnutls_2.5.0-r0_armv4t.ipk

opkg -force-depends install
http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/libpurple-protocol-irc_2.5.0-r0_armv4t.ipk
El dom, 28-09-2008 a las 17:45 +1000, nickd escribió:
 Hi David. How's your weekend?
 
 Just a quick bug with FDOM. I see you've added MSN support to Pidgin. 
 Unfortunately Pidgin complains that it needs the SSL library for MSN 
 to work. Should I place bugs like this in future on the projects page?
 
 Thanks for everything!
 -Nick


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Re: [FDOM] new release 20080927

2008-09-28 Thread David Samblas
El dom, 28-09-2008 a las 22:07 +0200, Petr Vanek escribió:
 On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 05:15:18 +0200
 David Samblas
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DS)
 wrote:
 :)
 
 As you may notice this is a large amount of programs so in order to not
 blow away the home with icons I have included a raw,dirty, and a little
 bit slow script in pygtk that acts as popupmenu /usr/bin/FDsubmenu.py,
 surely a c/elf program will be more quick and integrated but just I
 have no time to learn it(yet). Futures versions will include the icon
 image. Feel free to modify and add features of course.
 
 The FDSubmenu is slow, but does the job atm,
absolutely agree :)
  with my non-programming
 skills, i have added icons to it, i have sort of crop the icons to keep
 the row height (didn't know better way anyways):
 
 http://vanous.penguin.cz/files/om/FDSubmenu.py
Thanks a lot :) y send copy to the devel list to take in account on next
release 
 
 http://vanous.penguin.cz/files/om/om-gta02:0-1.png
 http://vanous.penguin.cz/files/om/om-gta02:0-2.png
 http://vanous.penguin.cz/files/om/om-gta02:0-3.png
 
quite more additions in some parts :) 
 
 --
 Petr Vaněk
 http://biodynamika.cz
 
 
 
 
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Re: [FDOM]: where are the sources?

2008-09-27 Thread David Samblas
FDOM is not source based, is basically a backup of my phone :), I(we)
install a 2008.X base distro and then add packages through opkg and fix
some things manually , tweaking config files and adding packages from
other repositories resolving dependencies manually too.

We are creating a svn server with a full rootfs to be able to install it
on the phone and commit directly from the phone the tweaks we do, but
actualy I was unable to boot from the checkout of the svn more info at
the fdom-devel list
http://lists.projects.openmoko.org/pipermail/fdom-development/

Regards
David Samblas

 
El sáb, 27-09-2008 a las 20:46 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
 Hello,
 is there an openembedded repository of FDOM...
 or how can i can build it and add bb files?
 
 
 
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Re: Upgrading FDOM

2008-09-26 Thread David Samblas
El vie, 26-09-2008 a las 10:36 -0700, Kelvie Wong escribió: 
 So, it seems that the new FDOM got released yesterday (today?):
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FDOM#version__20080925
 
 Anyone know how (if it is even possible) to upgrade to this without having to 
 reflash the entire rootfs (such as via a opkg upgrade using some custom feed)?
we are working on a script than convert any standard 2008.X updated into
a FDOM to achieve this.


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Re: Upgrading FDOM

2008-09-26 Thread David Samblas
sorry my fault, I have made some renames manually to clarify but I only
have messed things even more.  
El vie, 26-09-2008 a las 18:45 -0400, Charles Pax escribió: 
 On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Kelvie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So, it seems that the new FDOM got released yesterday
 (today?):
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FDOM#version__20080925 
 
 The md5sums seemd to be for different files. If you change the file
 name in the md5sum, they check out okay. What's up?
 
 -Charles
 
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Re: My Suggestions for FDOM

2008-09-26 Thread David Samblas
El vie, 26-09-2008 a las 07:13 +0100, Tim Wentford escribió: 
 For EBooks I have opie-reader working on the image from Qtopia.net but
 I don't have enough spare time to work out how to build it for any of
 the other variants. If anyone can build Qtopia apps for anything other
 than the Qtopia image and can tell me how to do it, I'll have a go (or
 if they want to have a go themselves I can provide the sources) - but
 I don't have the spare time to experiment with the build systems to
 get something that works.
I also like to have in near future a x11 version of the finger drawing
qtopia app (scrible or similar name) 
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Re: [FDOM] Ye olde no sound after resume

2008-09-26 Thread David Samblas
Thanks a lot!!! 
I have no anounced the last update cause of this annoying bug 
on 20080927  release I have included this fix 
El vie, 26-09-2008 a las 15:26 +1000, nickd escribió: 
 Flashed the latest copy of FDOM today and I'm having this [1] problem 
 again. Anyone else experiencing problems or just me? Fix for me was 
 uninstalling speech-dispatcher and rebooting.
 
 -Nick
 
 1. http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1599
 
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[FDOM] new release 20080927

2008-09-26 Thread David Samblas
Hi all,
on http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM/ you have disponible the new FDOM
release.
I have just erase previous release because there are some annoying bugs
withs calls and no sound.
But his has gone thanks to nickd,

This release  is not as tested as 2008.08 ones but include things, that
sure,  gonna make you smile, 29 Games :), orrery 2.0, a mplayer frontend
pythm, and things than have the last updated not anounced jalimo with
java se and me, navit, linphone (not tested but surely some people will
smile twice, isn't it Michel Siloh? :) ) in addition to FDOM
classics :)

As you may notice this is a large amount of programs so in order to not
blow away the home with icons I have included a raw,dirty, and a little
bit slow script in pygtk that acts as popupmenu /usr/bin/FDsubmenu.py,
surely a c/elf program will be more quick and integrated but just I have
no time to learn it(yet). Futures versions will include the icon image.
Feel free to modify and add features of course.

Regarding colaborations , First thanks nacho and armin because without
them this release will has not been posible, 
if you want to colaborate reporting bugs,improvements or sugestions we
have a project in http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/fdom/ with a
devel list
http://lists.projects.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/fdom-development

thanks to armin, we have also a svn server svn://zoup.org/Fdom with an
2008.09 that we want to transform in a better FDOM but here I call for
help, Armin has his neo temporaly out of order, and I was unable to put
the svn checkout to boot in a sd card, I want to do this to be able to
have a quick way to summit changes, and have a more efective way to make
various people to tweak the distro at same time.
So if any one succeded to boot froma svn extraction please contacr us to
tell us how
I will try to update the wiki tomorrow with the modifications but any
help will be apreciated here too :)   

I have not included the kernel image because still the 2008.09 one
http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.9/Om2008.9.uImage.bin


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Re: My Suggestions for FDOM

2008-09-26 Thread David Samblas
El jue, 25-09-2008 a las 23:44 +0100, Tim Dobson escribió:
 Hi there,
 I've just moved to FDOM and I love it.
 
 I have a few ideas to make it better - these aren't criticisms - it's 
 great at the moment - these are just ideas to make it better - I don't 
 expect anyone to agree about all of them, but these are suggestions...
 
 # Midori(with the settings tweaked) is better for the screensize than 
 minimo - I find it more usable
Please pass me a link to how to tweak it I will take a look
 
 # accel-rotate program, or a way to start/stop it - this is a simple 
 script to use the accelerometers to rotate with xrandr. It seems quite 
 stable. An ipkg is available - http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Rotate
a way to easyly start/stop will be helpfull
 
 When I was running 22007.2, two cool programs I had from Angstrom were:
 
 # Quasar - a x11 mplayer front end.
 This is not perfect for the freerunner - it ideally needs some UI work 
 doing (more than just setting tweaking), especially on it's fonts, 
 however, i have launched mpg QVGA videos with it and watched them as 
 well as listening to music with it.
used pythm isted but I take a look at Quasar
 
 # Claws Mail
 A lightweight mail client - with a bit of UI tweaking from the view menu 
 makes a completely usable mail client. Since we have qmail, I guess this 
 is not necessary, but it's a thought.
 
 # FBreader?
 I would love to see an ebook reader but I think there are big dependency 
 issues here :(
 
 # Games
 Personally, I would prefer to get rid of sudoku and to possibly to get 
 kobodeluxe on there.
 Though not ready yet, keeping an eye on 
 http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/accelgame might be good.
 
 # lint-wifi
 Personally, I prefer lint-wifi to mofi. I really like being able to see 
 the network info it displays (ie IP, DNS DDHCP) as it helps 
 troubleshooting stuff when things dont work :P
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Lint-wifi
 

 # wpa_supplicant.conf
 Possibly modify the default the wpa_supplicant.conf to automatically 
 connect to unencrypted wifi hotspots? :-/
 
 I can't help too much - my stupid OM setup script - (givemeteh)apppznow 
 is pretty much obsolete as a result of FDOM :) so I will help in the 
 ways I can. I have joined the development list and considering all the 
 spare high speed bandwidth I have, I've set up a mirror - 
 http://files.tdobson.net/openmoko/freerunner/fadom/
 
We are also working in a script that way, any help well be apreciated
and I will taka a ook at your script too
 At some point soon I'll get rid of the 'a' in fadom :P
I have the mania of call it fsdom... so dont worry, please update the
mirror list in the wiki
 
 Cheers for the good work, keep it up! :D
Thank :)
 
 Tim
 


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Re: FDOM 2008.9 update?

2008-09-24 Thread David Samblas
Yes we will release one in short, and also we are preparing
infrastructure to be able to admit and manage colaborations, more
details on release readme.

Thank to all for you interest
El mar, 23-09-2008 a las 21:54 -0400, Tomas Riveros Schober escribió:
 i read a couple messages ago that its being worked on.
 so, being patient or getting involved are the only 2 options for now...
 
 regards
 
 Tom
 
 Glen Ogilvie escribió:
  Hi,
 
  I enjoyed using FDOM, with the already configured stuff it was nice and
  easy to get things working.
 
  Is the going to be an update that is based on om2008.9 release?
 
  Regards
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Re: Whats the name of the app FDOM uses to do display switching ?

2008-09-24 Thread David Samblas
tapuntap.py

it's in /usr/bin

it's a simply script using xrandr 

El mié, 24-09-2008 a las 17:09 +0800, William Kenworthy escribió:
 Whats the name of the app FDOM uses to do display switching ?
 (portrait/landscape)
 
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Re: [OT] First rumors about first Google phone

2008-09-24 Thread David Samblas

Yes, take for sure than HTC will not release as an open phone as
Openmoko, when I was talking about openess I was talking of the sofware
stack, to precisely to the posiblitiy neo can run that software on it.

El mié, 24-09-2008 a las 15:53 +0200, Cédric Berger escribió:
 On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 15:46, Steven Kurylo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Even if the code is open, will the hardware be?  The hardware could
  easily check if the software has been changed and then cut power.
 
 
 What is interesting is that the code is open so that you can port it a
 more open hardware (Neo !)
 
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Re: this is not freedom [was:Re: [OT] First rumors about first Google phone]

2008-09-24 Thread David Samblas
Again I don't know how much google will open their software, It's clear
than if HTC + T-movile are involved in the phone the phone itself will
not be free, that not worry me is a no go on hardware openness.

I had some hope on the software stack not in hardware.

El mié, 24-09-2008 a las 17:49 +0300, doron escribió:
 Hi,
 
 I not sure , but,
 
 AFAIK , I can run free software for any purpose (freedom 0) , but the 
 Google phone is locked to one cellular provider , T-mobile , and the 
 device is SIM-locked [1] (paragraph 9 - first line).
 This is not freedom !
 
 
 [1] 
 http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080923-t-mobile-google-finally-unveil-the-first-android-phone.html
 
 - doron
 
 
 
 Steven Kurylo wrote:
  Even if the code is open, will the hardware be?  The hardware could
  easily check if the software has been changed and then cut power.
 
  Hopefully there will at least be some interesting bits to borrow.
 
  On 9/24/08, Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 19:21, David Samblas
  
  any news about the real openess of android?
 

   first phone has just been announced to be released, and then the code
  should be open sourced :
 
  http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/09/announcing-android-10-sdk-release-1.html
 
  So what's next for us? Well, we'll keep working on the SDK, as I
  said. But we're also working hard with our partners in the Open
  Handset Alliance on the open-source release, with the aim of making
  the code available in the fourth quarter
  
 
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Re: [OT] First rumors about first Google phone

2008-09-24 Thread David Samblas
It's need to be ported before can be runned, and needs to be open to
port it, they said they will open it at final of this year.

El mié, 24-09-2008 a las 09:05 -0600, Vince M. Clark escribió:
 Has anyone tried to install Android on a Freerunner?
 
 - Original Message -
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 Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 8:58:18 AM (GMT-0700)
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 Yes, take for sure than HTC will not release as an open phone as
 Openmoko, when I was talking about openess I was talking of the
 sofware
 stack, to precisely to the posiblitiy neo can run that software on it.
 
 El mié, 24-09-2008 a las 15:53 +0200, Cédric Berger escribió:
  On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 15:46, Steven Kurylo
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Even if the code is open, will the hardware be?  The hardware
 could
   easily check if the software has been changed and then cut power.
  
  
  What is interesting is that the code is open so that you can port it
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Re: [2008.8] [FDOM]

2008-09-23 Thread David Samblas
El mar, 23-09-2008 a las 15:02 +0200, Jose Luis Perez Diez escribió:
 El Tuesday, 23 de September de 2008 12:21:17 Davide Scaini va escriure:
  ok, updating works... but installing (with assassin) it says Failed.
  Please try again.The error message is 'gpg-failure'
 
 I've just installed om-maps-paris and updated assassin from assessin on the 
 lastest FDOM image without problems
 
  so i can't upgrade or install anything! :-(
 
 Upgrading FDOM isn't recommended. the image was built installing some of ipk 
 manually and any upgrade is could bug it.
As Jose Luis sais is not recomended to do full upgrade, and less
recommended until the last 2008.9 update, we are working i a 2008.9
updated version. I will announce on the list when aviable. and the
changes will be published on the wiki

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[OT] First rumors about first Google phone

2008-09-23 Thread David Samblas
Here in spain is a press massive campaing about the new google phone
based in android the HTC Dream with a financied price of 199 Eurs

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2006/dec/17/news.mobilephones

that will be out by the end of the year.

any news about the real openess of android?



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Re: Phone java apps on fr?

2008-09-18 Thread David Samblas
Good news :) a step closer to say neo is full compatible with you
favorite java games and apps :) I know all c/python/elf/gtk even qt
lovers will be groaning  like Gollum in Saurons fortress but marketing
is cruel some times and the avobe sentence can make Openmoko sell more
neos :) 
El jue, 18-09-2008 a las 14:37 +0200, Robert Schuster escribió:
 Hi,
 for some blogposts by me that deal with the Java situation on OpenMoko
 have a look at this:
 
 http://rschuster.blogs.evolvis.org/category/OpenMoko/
 
 (With a little luck this will soon be available through planet.openmoko.org)
 
 Petr Vanek schrieb:
  how can i run java applications from other mobile phones on fr? Is it
  what is called JavaME? Is this available for fr? I have looked at
  jalimo and around but no clarity for me...
 What you usually want to run is a MIDlet or MIDP application. For this
 you can either use the microemulator or MIDPath on top of either
 Cacao+GNU Classpath or PhoneME Advanced.
 
 You can install midpath for OpenMoko through the Jalimo repository. All
 of this is in OE. So it could be added to the official feeds as well.
 
 Running MIDPath on PhoneME Advanced (PMEA for short) is currently not
 possible due to a bug in the MIDPath version in OE. I hope I can
 convince Guillaume to release another RC soon so that I can base the
 recipes in OE on it.
 
 For the user PMEA would have the advantage that it is tried and tested
 Sun code and additionally really fast. It is also compatible to SWT and
 can as such run application that are compatible to J2SE 1.3.
 
 Regards
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Re: QCop server not running [FDOM]

2008-09-15 Thread David Samblas
Have you tried?

ln /opt/Qtopia/bin/qcop /usr/bin/qcop -s 

proposed previously on the list?

please specifiy FDOM in the topic to  don't worry not-FDOM users with
broken updates

Regards 
David Samblas 
02 +0200, Martin Vyšný escribió:
 Hi,
   I'm using the FDOM distro. I just updated packages with opkg update 
 opkg upgrade and now the qtopia applications are failing to start:
 
 # DISPLAY=:0 /opt/Qtopia/bin/addressbook
 ApplicationLayer: Unable to connect to server, application layer will be
 disabled.
 Could not connect to QCop server; probably not running.
 
 Can you please help me on how to start the QCop server? ;)
 Thanks!
 Martin
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Re: Mockup or what else?

2008-09-15 Thread David Samblas
I hope we will still seeing you writting here and help us to pimp our
Neos as nowadays you only have achived.
A really really big hug to you Raster :)  
El lun, 15-09-2008 a las 22:04 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra escribió:
 From which you also find sad news. :|
 
 On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 08:25:43PM +0200, Bumbl wrote:
  I found this at rasterman.com
  which is raster's homepage
  
  Natanael Arndt wrote:
   Am Montag, 15. September 2008 schrieb Bumbl:
 
   http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-01.png
   http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-02.png
   http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-03.png
  
  
   Are these mockups or where can I obtain this theme.
  
   It looks amazingly good.
   
  
   Cool, where did you find this?
  
   I only found this: http://52grad.de/.stuff/freerunner/ to pimp your 
   FreeRunner.
 


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FDOM tar.gz wrong root path

2008-09-14 Thread David Samblas
Beware, the last tar.gz has a wrong path , and whas under /var/tmp/root
instead of / 
you boot on any distro you can access to the sd card partition and fix
it manually  

mv /media/mmcblk0p2/var/tmp/root/* /media/mmcblk0p2/

New fixed tar version uploading now

Sorry
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Re: FDOM updated

2008-09-13 Thread David Samblas
El vie, 12-09-2008 a las 22:49 -0400, Tomas Riveros Schober escribió:
 Thank you very much for this!
 im still downloading this one, but if its as good as the last one, then 
 its gonna rock!
 
 btw, thanks for the info about qtopia crashing afer an opkg 
 update/upgrade, it was driving me nuts
Sorry , if there is a way to protect files from being updadated will be
very handy but seems opkg stills not doing so 


 
 Tom
 
 David Samblas escribió:
  see wiki page for more details (thanks to all that help to mantain and
  correct it)
  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FDOM_-_a_Fat_and_Dirty_OM_based_distribution
 
  Added Pidgin, and Remoko and something else :)
 
  http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM
 
  Regards 
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Re: FDOM updated

2008-09-13 Thread David Samblas
Hi Yann
I strongly recomend you to allways flash the last release because I
perform some manual adjustements that will be not updated through opkg
update/ugrade 
If you are using the first release 20080905 you should comment the
following lines in /etc/opkg.conf (I have missed to do so, fixed on the
following releases)

# Proxy Support
#option http_proxy http://192.168.0.200:6588 
#option ftp_proxy ftp://192.168.0.200:21

But again I recomend you to download and flash the lastest, or install
in the sdcard , now I release a tar.gz file too to do so.

Regards

David

El sáb, 13-09-2008 a las 11:04 +0200, Yann SLADEK escribió:
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 Hi there
 
 Thanks for the update.
 I've a question about that : do we need to reflash the neo with image
 file for each release or an opkg update/upgrade will be enough ?
 
 I've been trying the first release but wasn't able to opkg
 update/upgrade (conflicts in opkg sources list).
 
 Will next releases available by repository or something else ?
 
 Thanks for your answer
 
 Yann
 
 
 David Samblas a écrit :
  see wiki page for more details (thanks to all that help to mantain and
  correct it)
  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FDOM_-_a_Fat_and_Dirty_OM_based_distribution
  
  Added Pidgin, and Remoko and something else :)
  
  http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM
  
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Re: FDOM and such

2008-09-13 Thread David Samblas
El sáb, 13-09-2008 a las 09:40 +0100, Linus Gasser escribió:
 Hi list,
 
 I finally managed to download the FDOM 20080909 here in Tchad - over a 
 128kbps line this takes some time ;)
Wow and I was complaining because of my slow 60kb/s upload rate...
there are brave linux warriors out there arround the world

And now the bad news ... there is and updated version 20080913 a little
bigger but has remoko and Pidgin and some other fixes :) se the wiki
page for more info

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FDOM_-_a_Fat_and_Dirty_OM_based_distribution
 
  After fighting with the device and
 suppressing the old debian from the MicroSD-card, it kind of runs nice.
 So here are my first impressions:
 
 - Delete OMView - I don't see the idea of this file-browser. On my phone
 it shows a very small font and I don't get it anyway
I have fixed the theme and now looks more integrated on 200808 is not a
file browser is a picture viewer with a filebrowser to find the
pictures :)
 - Delete the installer at the bottom of the display - it's useless and
 takes away space
Please post how to do it, I will readd the installer as other app when i
was able to make submenus but I will be very happy if you tellme how to
remove the bottom bar.

 - Suspend/Resume doesn't work reliably. Reading the list I tried
* starting with external power attached - it works
* starting without external power attached - it doesn't
   well, I tried only 2 times, so this might not be statistically 
 conclusive. Anybody else sees the same thing?
If it helps you , while auto suspend/resume has this issues I have
disabled the auto suspend and only enable the blank screen, I supend it
manually trough the power button and I have no problem at all, it wakes
up on calls, and when I push the power button again.
 - SSH not working - I have to restart it by hand. I'm looking into this one
strange, I have no such problem and no advice any one else has

 - MicroSD corruption - I got bitten by this one. But I can't recall 
 whether it's the FDOM or the Debian I had on it.
 
I had to say I has a testing distro on the sdcard and any version of
2008.08-updates or FDOM has corrupted it I 
 Besides that, I changed the main SIM-card again to the NEO, I'll try it 
 again as my main phone. And phypt rocks! You just need the keyboard to 
 restart levels and such.
 
 Thanks,
Thanks to you and your patience to download it 
Regards and a big hug
 
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Re: FDOM updated

2008-09-13 Thread David Samblas
Any posibility to obtain the already compiled patched binary files?

El sáb, 13-09-2008 a las 11:36 +0200, julien cubizolles escribió:
 Le samedi 13 septembre 2008 à 04:10 +0200, David Samblas a écrit :
  see wiki page for more details (thanks to all that help to mantain and
  correct it)
  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FDOM_-_a_Fat_and_Dirty_OM_based_distribution
  
  Added Pidgin, and Remoko and something else :)
 
 Thanks again, would you consider integrating Florian's patch to reenable
 the search bar in qtopia addressbook ?
 
 http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1966
 
 
 
 
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Re: FDOM updated

2008-09-13 Thread David Samblas
Seems you have been catched by the config issue, please do what
indicated on the Warning part of the wiki

cp /etc/X11/Xsession /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia.bk~ 
/etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia

and reboot the neo

Do that any time qtopia-x11 is updated (or when you have the simptoms
you have described)

Regards
David 
El sáb, 13-09-2008 a las 21:18 +0800, William Kenworthy escribió:
 Tried this for the first time and it looks good, but cant register the
 GSM (been trying for a few hours now) ...  Log extract below - any
 clues? - I normally use 2007.2 updated which works fine.
 
 Also many apps dont start (dialler, calendar, contacts, ...) - is that
 expected?
 
 BillK
 
 Sep 13 20:54:59 om-gta02 user.notice root: ficgta01hardware plugin 
 Sep 13 20:55:00 om-gta02 user.notice root: Modem :  opening serial
 device  /dev/pts/0  at  115200 
 Sep 13 20:55:00 om-gta02 user.notice root: Modem :  Device: /dev/pts/0
 is a tty device: True 
 Sep 13 20:55:00 om-gta02 user.notice root: Modem :  NONBLOCK
 successfully reset 
 Sep 13 20:55:00 om-gta02 user.notice root: Modem :  Opened
 /dev/pts/0 
 Sep 13 20:55:00 om-gta02 user.notice root: Modem :  querying multiplexer
 plugin ficgta01multiplex 
 Sep 13 20:55:01 om-gta02 user.notice root: AtChat :  T : ^Z 
 Sep 13 20:55:01 om-gta02 local0.warn /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd[1377]:
 gsm0710muxd.c:569:pseudo_device_read(): Write to a channel which wasn't
 acked to be open.
 Sep 13 20:55:01 om-gta02 local0.warn /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd[1377]:
 gsm0710muxd.c:569:pseudo_device_read(): Write to a channel which wasn't
 acked to be open.
 Sep 13 20:55:11 om-gta02 user.notice root: Mux :  *** mux setup timed
 out *** 
 Sep 13 20:55:11 om-gta02 user.notice root: AtChat :  T : ^Z 
 Sep 13 20:55:11 om-gta02 local0.warn /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd[1377]:
 gsm0710muxd.c:569:pseudo_device_read(): Write to a channel which wasn't
 acked to be open.
 Sep 13 20:55:21 om-gta02 user.notice root: Mux :  *** mux setup timed
 out *** 
 Sep 13 20:55:21 om-gta02 user.notice root: AtChat :  T : ^Z 
 Sep 13 20:55:21 om-gta02 local0.warn /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd[1377]:
 gsm0710muxd.c:569:pseudo_device_read(): Write to a channel which wasn't
 acked to be open.
 Sep 13 20:55:31 om-gta02 user.notice root: Mux :  *** mux setup timed
 out *** 
 Sep 13 20:55:31 om-gta02 user.notice root: AtChat :  T : ^Z 
 Sep 13 20:55:31 om-gta02 local0.warn /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd[1377]:
 gsm0710muxd.c:569:pseudo_device_read(): Write to a channel which wasn't
 acked to be open.
 Sep 13 20:55:41 om-gta02 user.notice root: Mux :  *** mux setup timed
 out *** 
 Sep 13 20:55:41 om-gta02 user.notice root: AtChat :  T : ^Z 
 Sep 13 20:55:41 om-gta02 local0.warn /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd[1377]:
 gsm0710muxd.c:569:pseudo_device_read(): Write to a channel which wasn't
 acked to be open.
 Sep 13 20:55:51 om-gta02 user.notice root: Mux :  *** mux setup timed
 out *** 
 Sep 13 20:55:51 om-gta02 user.notice root: AtChat :  T : ^Z 
 Sep 13 20:55:51 om-gta02 local0.warn /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd[1377]:
 gsm0710muxd.c:569:pseudo_device_read(): Write to a channel which wasn't
 acked to be open.
 Sep 13 20:56:01 om-gta02 user.notice root: Mux :  *** mux setup timed
 out *** 
 Sep 13 20:56:01 om-gta02 user.notice root: AtChat :  T : ^Z 
 Sep 13 20:56:01 om-gta02 local0.warn /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd[1377]:
 gsm0710muxd.c:569:pseudo_device_read(): Write to a channel which wasn't
 acked to be open.
 Sep 13 20:56:11 om-gta02 user.notice root: Mux :  *** mux setup timed
 out *** 
 Sep 13 20:56:11 om-gta02 user.notice root: AtChat :  T : ^Z 
 Sep 13 20:56:11 om-gta02 local0.warn /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd[1377]:
 gsm0710muxd.c:569:pseudo_device_read(): Write to a channel which wasn't
 acked to be open.
 Sep 13 20:56:21 om-gta02 user.notice root: Mux :  *** mux setup timed
 out *** 
 Sep 13 20:56:21 om-gta02 user.notice root: AtChat :  T : ^Z 
 Sep 13 20:56:21 om-gta02 local0.warn /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd[1377]:
 gsm0710muxd.c:569:pseudo_device_read(): Write to a channel which wasn't
 acked to be open.
 Sep 13 20:56:31 om-gta02 user.notice root: Mux :  *** mux setup timed
 out *** 
 Sep 13 20:56:31 om-gta02 user.notice root: AtChat :  T : ^Z 
 Sep 13 20:56:31 om-gta02 local0.warn /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd[1377]:
 gsm0710muxd.c:569:pseudo_device_read(): Write to a channel which wasn't
 acked to be open.
 Sep 13 20:56:41 om-gta02 user.notice root: Mux :  *** mux setup timed
 out *** 
 Sep 13 20:56:41 om-gta02 user.notice root: Initializing the modem
 failed. What should one do?... abort 
 Sep 13 20:56:41 om-gta02 local0.info /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd[1377]:
 gsm0710muxd.c:609:pseudo_device_read(): Logical channel 1 for (null)
 closed
 Sep 13 20:56:41 om-gta02 user.notice root: The process exited: 6 normal:
 0
 Sep 13 21:01:50 om-gta02 user.notice root: Was asked to quit. Bye Bye
 
 
 
 
 On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 04:10 +0200, David Samblas wrote:
  see wiki page for more details (thanks to all that help to mantain and
  correct it)
  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FDOM_

Re: FDOM updated

2008-09-13 Thread David Samblas


El sáb, 13-09-2008 a las 09:04 -0700, Michael Shiloh escribió:
 David Samblas wrote:
 
  Added Pidgin, and Remoko and something else :)
 
 
 Pidgin! Woohoo!
 
 This is rapidly becoming my favorite image. Keep up the good work!
 
 What are you considering adding next? Do you already have a SIP app?
Concret sugestions please :)
But until I was able to add submenus(I will try some dirty trick with a
pygtk app, any better solution as an already done one will be
apreciated) I will freeze to  adding apps , I know I can drag up and
down but I prefer to see all my options at once in the main screen, so
any clue of how to remove the botom bar will be apreciated, I will
include de installer (assasin) as another app when submenu is enabled.

I'm inmersed on another bit time consumming tasks so maybe on week or so
there will be no other uploadings of new images but I will try to add
all the good Ideas I have been reciving (search contact bar here we
go :) )  

a big hug to you, and to you all :)
 
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Re: FDOM updated

2008-09-13 Thread David Samblas
Fixed thanks 
I hope the mirror will reply this rename shortly
Regards
El sáb, 13-09-2008 a las 15:08 -0400, Craig B. Allen escribió:
 For anyone like me who uses a script to flash, note that the rootfs
 has an extension jff2, not jffs2.
 
 - Craig
 
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Re: FDOM updated

2008-09-13 Thread David Samblas
Here is it
PD.- In french still be a bad word :) think it but better not write ;)
El sáb, 13-09-2008 a las 13:55 -0700, Christoph Siegenthaler escribió:
 Merde, I read the reply in this thread too late... Could someone send me the
 correct 89qtopia.bk~ file? I think I overwrote it... Thanks a lot in
 advance!
 
 
 
 David Samblas-3 wrote:
  
  ps!, This was a copypaste from the wiki thanks Rui Muigel,
  correcting it right now
  
  the intended instruction was
  cp /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia.bk~ /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia 
  but I have added your chown one to the wiki
  
  Thanks again :)
  
  
  
  El sáb, 13-09-2008 a las 17:56 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra escribió:
  This will do a big booboo
  
  I hope you meant
  
 cd /etc/X11/Xsession.d
 cp 89qtopia.bk~ 89qtopia
 chmod a+rx 89qtopia  (just in case it lost +x permissions...)
  
  Rui
  
  On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 06:46:12PM +0200, David Samblas wrote:
   Seems you have been catched by the config issue, please do what
   indicated on the Warning part of the wiki
   
   cp /etc/X11/Xsession /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia.bk~
  /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia
   
   and reboot the neo
   
   Do that any time qtopia-x11 is updated (or when you have the simptoms
   you have described)
   
   Regards
   David 
   El sáb, 13-09-2008 a las 21:18 +0800, William Kenworthy escribió:
Tried this for the first time and it looks good, but cant register
  the
GSM (been trying for a few hours now) ...  Log extract below - any
clues? - I normally use 2007.2 updated which works fine.

Also many apps dont start (dialler, calendar, contacts, ...) - is
  that
expected?
  
  
  
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Re: Fantastic Experience

2008-09-12 Thread David Samblas
I believe Sean and the rest of the Openmoko crowd  was thinking in
people like you when they decide to start this awesome trip ;) 

Thanks Scott for this encorageous post :) 
El jue, 11-09-2008 a las 20:49 -0700, SCarlson escribió:
 
  Hello All --
 
  I'd like to pipe in with my New Freerunner experiences thus far.
 
  I have had my phone for 2 weeks. I loaded up OM2008.8-update.
 
 Here is the list :
 
  Solid GSM (Sending and Receiving). No Echo, clear calls, full bars.
  My SIM Card contact list imported automatically.
  SMS, Solid.
  Wifi, also works great.
  GPS works. 60 second TTFF and 40 second TTFF w/ external antenna (This is
 without the capacitor fix)
  microSd works.
  Suspend/Resume .. solid (minus the GUI setting having no effect. but I
 don't care, I just suspend manually with the power button when I'm not using
 it).
  I made a usb cable, so now my phone can receive standard USB devices.. this
 opens many doors.
  
 When I was shopping for a mobile computer/phone, I scraped the planet for
 something open and hackable. What I found was nice machines with propriety
 software that goes through a Telecom company, which is then purposely
 crippled and released for public consumption. Most of the crippling process
 is based on a Business model that nickels and dimes us to death for
 services and features that (I believe) we should already have. In the end,
 the only answer for me was to by the GTA02. 
 
 I'd like to say, that I'm here to stay, on the band wagon, lets kick some
 ass...
 
 Completely Satisfied,
 Scott R Carlson


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FDOM updated

2008-09-12 Thread David Samblas
see wiki page for more details (thanks to all that help to mantain and
correct it)
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FDOM_-_a_Fat_and_Dirty_OM_based_distribution

Added Pidgin, and Remoko and something else :)

http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM

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Re: Customized layout for illume keyboard

2008-09-11 Thread David Samblas
This will be added to the future FDOM too :)
El jue, 11-09-2008 a las 02:17 +0200, Thomas B. escribió:
 On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 12:40:18AM +0100, Thomas White wrote:
  Thomas B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I customized the layout of the illume Numbers keyboard a bit, and
   thought I'd share the result with the community.
  
  EXACTLY what I was looking for (and was about to have a go at creating
  myself). Many thanks!
 
 Glad that I could help!
 
 Regards,
 Thomas
 
 PS: I forgot to provide uninstallation instructions: In the case you or
 anyone trying this eventually finds that they don't like the layouts,
 getting rid of them is as easy as rm -rf ~/.e/e/keyboards; killall -HUP
 enlightenment (provided that you don't have your own custom layouts in
 there). Illume will then reload the default layouts from
 /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards.
 
 
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Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download

2008-09-11 Thread David Samblas
Great :) one of the  objectives fullfilled
El jue, 11-09-2008 a las 13:26 +0100, Joseph Reeves escribió:
 Couldn't agree with this any more; thanks David!
 
 Joseph
 
 
 
 2008/9/9 Andreas Micklei [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Brilliant!
 
  Of course the software and information to get to this software level is
  freely available. But your distribution is a HUGE timesaver allowing me
  to concentrate on the important stuff. Thanks for sharing!
 
  regards,
  Andreas Micklei
 
 
 
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Re: distro nightmares ... can fdom help?

2008-09-11 Thread David Samblas
Well a lot of information here I hope you or some one else
report/reported to the tracking list.
I will try to anser to the question  can FDOM help? 
El jue, 11-09-2008 a las 15:44 +0200, Franky Van Liedekerke escribió:
 Hi all,
 
 (to be fare: I compare with my 4 years old sony ericsson P900 phone,
 and that one wins without problems for now)
 (Warning: no ranting please, I'm just summing up all current bugs I
 encounter and hope to get some pointers for fixes)
 
 For the moment I seem to be unable to find a distro where the basics
 work without issues (and I flashed/upgraded/installed already a number
 of times):
 
 - booting time: 2/3 minutes for asu. I can accept this for a beta
 functioning device, but I hope this gets better in the future. Yes, I
 know the wiki page for this ... luckely I don't reboot py phone too
 often
No same as 2008.8-updates
 - receive calls: calls arrive double on qtopia distro (not asu, no no
 sim card issue here), so for each call I end up having a missed call
 entry as well. Very annoying.
 - speaker: qtopia emits a very loud tone when on speaker
 - echo: the asu distro doesn't have the echo fix yet
I don't know what asu version did you tried but I have no detected echo
problems on the 2008.8-updates, so FDOM has no echo 
 - choose a ringtone: ok, I can replace the wav file, but come on, no
 app available at all for asu?
No but If anyone develop one I will include it on FDOM as soon as
aviable
 - alarm: I use my cell phone for wake-up calls, but ASU isn't reliable
 to give me the alarm. The phone unsuspends on time, but the alarm
 doesn't sound, or an undetermined amount of minutes too late. This
 seems to be the only phone in the world with this problem...
I have readed (not tested yet) than the last 2008.8-updates has solve
this problem
 - prevent the copying of sim-card contacts to your phone (qtopia and
 asu). Ok, I can remove them from the sim, or change the sqlite db on
 te phone, but this is a basic setting on any phone.
 - remove all contacts from the phone (qtopia and asu). Again I can
 just clean up the sqlite db file here, but a simple sql script
 executed by a gui would be nice.
I was able to delete the contacts and messages directly from the apps on
the phone without the sim card, and no need to access the sqlite db.

 - mplayer: plays mp3 just fine, but qtopia or asu media players are
 unable to play back one mp3 fine without hickups or distortion
 (distortion can be fixed by editing the mp3 and decreasing the volume
 by 20dB). Is this gstreamer bogging down the phone or just bad mp3
 decoding?
I don't know, but I was thinking about do a basic frontend to mplayer
like the omview to replace the media player, a file filebrowser and a
basic control trough mouse gestures in the touch screen, but no find
time yet to get my hands dirty on this
 - wifi: why on earth isn't wifi taking the nameservers given by dhcp?
 Is it the resolvconf issue that needs fixing here? Even my old archos
 430 did that just fine from the beginning. Now I needed the usb0
 connection working just to be able to get the wifi working, since no
 terminal app is installed by default on the phone. I did use the
 resolvconf wiki page to help me out here, but no dice for encrypted
 networks. Mofi maybe?
Both a terminal and Mofi are included on FDOM, but is courios, I have to
not to conect to usb before I want the wifi to make it work :) 
 - speed: asu reaction time is just too slow. Qtopia is reasonable
 here.
I have no feel any relevance diference here (I't true I have not tested
the last qtopia version, so no much criteria here) FSDOM will have the
same reaction as 2008.8-updates
 - bluetooth: no app on asu, and the qtopia-x11 bluetooth app doesn't
 do anything.
Remoko is tested an will be included in the next version of FSDOM it
works through bluethooth, so don't loos you hope yet :)
 
 I haven't even tried image viewing yet, or gps ... 
I'ts a pitty freerunnes has a great resolution on image, and on sunny
days gps works pretty well
 I would have thought to be able to iron out bugs and such, but I was
 expecting basic working functionality. For now I have my freerunner
 lying on my desk at home, doing nothing at all ...
Poor freerunner, surelly a lot of clean-soul good geeks but with no
resources will be happy to take care of this freerunner, make it
complile, or test new apps , or only taking a walk to help complete
OSM,or...(add here a trillion of things people are doing/want to do if
the had a neo)   
 
 Does the fdom version of ASU addresses some of the plain asu issues?
 Or any help solving some of these? I *really* want to show off my
 freerunner ...
Fat and Dirty Openmoko is nothing more than a 2008.8-update with apps
installed and some fixes maybe it can fit you needs or not only you can
anwer that question, try it and if you are happy/unhappy please let me
know, I will be glad if you can send me and exhaustive bug/improvements
list as you have done with other distributions.
 
 Franky

Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download

2008-09-10 Thread David Samblas
If its include in OM2008.08 then it is or it will if you update

 (rememeber that some times some updated packages will sustitute some
custom confs (example /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia) I will mantain a
wathelse.bk~ in the same directory with the costumized script in to easy
recover it   
El mar, 09-09-2008 a las 12:14 -0400, Craig B. Allen escribió:
  you have aviable on http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM a rootfs/kenel
  image ready to flash of an OM2008.08-updates distribution with some apps
  already installed and some fixes posted in the lists done.
 
 Does this include a fix to SD card corruption upon suspending?
 
 - Craig
 
 p.s. looks interesting - installing now!
 
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Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download

2008-09-10 Thread David Samblas

Thanks to Minh Ha-Duong I got a brand new chapter in the Distribution
wikipage at Costumer Driven distros  :) so I have created a FSOM wiki
page that will surelly more actualized than the readmes ( now and
forward an snapshot of the wiki page)

:)
El mar, 09-09-2008 a las 11:53 -0700, Michael Shiloh escribió:
 David Samblas wrote:
  Hi there,
  you have aviable on http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM a rootfs/kenel  
  image ready to flash of an OM2008.08-updates distribution with some apps 
  already installed and some fixes posted in the lists done.
 
 
 Thank you so much! I've loaded this and was greeted with a nice full 
 screen of applications. I will now explore!
 
 Will you make a wiki page or shall I? I think the distributions page 
 lists a number of unnofficial images such as scardycat, etc.
 
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Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download

2008-09-10 Thread David Samblas
El mar, 09-09-2008 a las 23:35 +0200, Jay Vaughan escribió:
 can anyone work out what works and what doesnt?
You are also doing so :) thanks
 
 calls seem to be fine, though i've had a few hangups mid-call already  
 alas .. and for the life of me i can't get it to connect to my wifi  
 network, which is WEP 128bit HEX .. some voodoo here?
Sorry , no help here that it works for me and for someone else, not very
sure but seems that WEP has some problems with wpa_supplicant, but again
I advice I'm not sure
 
 generally a lot more interesting-looking than qtopia, but very thorny  
 too, in bits!  how do you quit an app?
Try opkg remove wathelseyouwanttoquit, lo0k at opkg options to be more
agressively removing also dependences,this way is very easy to break
something
 
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Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download

2008-09-10 Thread David Samblas
El mar, 09-09-2008 a las 23:35 +0200, Jean-Eric Cuendet escribió:
 
 
 2008/9/9 David Samblas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hi there,
 you have aviable on http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM a
 rootfs/kenel  image ready to flash of an OM2008.08-updates
 distribution with some apps already installed and some fixes
 posted in the lists done.
 
 here you have more detailed information
 
 http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM/README.txt
 
 I recommend you to use wget -c to retrieve the files because
 of the server seems to cut the connection time to time, a most
 robust mirror is on the way
 
 Sugesstions , comments, and anything else will be welcome
 
 
 Nice work guy!
Thanks, man
 I would propose that instead of creating yet another distribut (tm)
 you provide modified packages that can just be installed through OPKG
 on Om2008.x
2 main reasons I will not do it

The intention is to have an online aviable demo image file ready to
flash (nothing more nothing less) fell free to compare it with an Clean
OM2008.08 and add all dependenciecies and the modified confs in one ipkg
and then I only will asure it will work on a clean om2008.08-update  of
the day the ipkg was made but I believe is quick an easier to flashit or
untarit to a sdcard partition (next FSDOM release will have tar.gz
version :) I promise)

Second (composed) reason 
Time constrains, lack of knowlege and lazyness, I have all of them :) 
 What do you think? It's no criticism, just a thought.
I prefer to give ideas to those who already upload packages to
Multiverse. So if some modification I make on FSOM goes upstream then
next releases will catch his own modification when updated :) 
 
 I can provide you with server CPU time to build the packages and
 upload them to Multiverse for example.
 -jec
  
 
 Regards and a hug 
 
 David Samblas
 
 
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Re: Thanks to everybody at OpenMoko and all the contributers

2008-09-10 Thread David Samblas
Raster you are the top author in my interesting mail tagged list :)

Thanks to the hole community and thaks to Openmoko  Inc to create an be
part of it
El mié, 10-09-2008 a las 12:12 +0200, julien cubizolles escribió:
 Le mercredi 10 septembre 2008 à 11:15 +0200, Michele Renda a écrit :
  I want to add my thank too... to all the person you listed and to all
  the other persons that are also working in this ML giving suggestion
  and helping who had some problems.
  
  A realy good job! Thanks!
 
 Let me add my thanks to the above mentionned. And a special mention to
 Rasterman, for his keyboard, his thoroughly detailed posts...
 
 Julien.
 
 
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Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-10 Thread David Samblas
LOOOL

 I Love OpenMoko-Gentoo = O.M.G!

 
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Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download

2008-09-10 Thread David Samblas
El mié, 10-09-2008 a las 10:21 +0200, julien cubizolles escribió:
 Le mardi 09 septembre 2008 à 17:38 +0200, David Samblas a écrit :
 
  http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM/README.txt
 
 Nice work !
 
 I see that you mention the gprs gui services. Does the warning message
 about gprs multiplexing not working if you have a sim pin (who
 doesn't ?) still apply ? It's been scaring me from testing gprs for a
 while now.
Where did you catch that message?, when is produced?, what are the
concequences to try than scares you?

Regards

 
 
 
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Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download

2008-09-10 Thread David Samblas
Ok I now understand , I believe you don't have to worry about this
because as far as I know the pin dialog arise if you have a 2008.8 sim
card  compatible, and I have no report any one loosing gsm by trying to
activate gprs on FSDOM

Regards
 
El mié, 10-09-2008 a las 13:50 +0200, julien cubizolles escribió:
 Le mercredi 10 septembre 2008 à 13:00 +0200, David Samblas a écrit :
 
   Does the warning message
   about gprs multiplexing not working if you have a sim pin (who
   doesn't ?) still apply ? It's been scaring me from testing gprs for a
   while now.
  Where did you catch that message?, when is produced?, what are the
  concequences to try than scares you?
 It's the banner at 
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_GPRS#Option_1:_With_GSM_multiplexing_and_with_a_GUI
 
 I guess the GUI mentionned is the same servies application used in your
 image. According to this message, I won't be able to register on the gsm
 network since I need to enter a PIN code, and then I get neither gsm nor
 gprs. Am I missing something here ?
 
  
 
 
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Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download

2008-09-10 Thread David Samblas
Tanks fixed :)

El mié, 10-09-2008 a las 17:19 +0300, Kostis Anagnostopoulos escribió:
 On Wed 10 Sep 2008 13:27:15 David Samblas wrote:
  Thanks to Minh Ha-Duong I got a brand new chapter in the Distribution
  wikipage at Costumer Driven distros  :) so I have created a FSOM wiki
  page that will surelly more actualized than the readmes ( now and
  forward an snapshot of the wiki page)
 
 The new wiki-page is named FSDOM.
 Assuming you meant to call it FDOM, did you?
 
 Regards for your Efforts,
   Kostis 
 
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Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download

2008-09-10 Thread David Samblas

El jue, 11-09-2008 a las 00:18 +0200, julien cubizolles escribió:
 Le mercredi 10 septembre 2008 à 14:41 +0200, David Samblas a écrit :
  Ok I now understand , I believe you don't have to worry about this
  because as far as I know the pin dialog arise if you have a 2008.8 sim
  card  compatible, and I have no report any one loosing gsm by trying to
  activate gprs on FSDOM
 
 OK, I installed your image and everything works perfectly, including
 gprs. Thanks a lot.
 
Thanks to you to test the distro
 Btw, where did you find qtopia-x11-calendar ? I'd like to get
 qtopia-x11-tasks/todo if such a thing exists.
just type on the terminal or on ssh session while net access 
#opkg install qtopia-phone-x11-todolist

 
 Julien.
 
 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] up and running :)

2008-09-09 Thread David Samblas
Thanks to Michael Siloh, 
I can proudly annouce the opening of the spanish openmoko list,
http://lists.projects.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/local-openmoko-spain 

This intended to help the spanish non-english skilled users to help and
be helped by the Openmoko community, the spanish skilled-enough users
will act as bridge between international and local group
Any english spanish-skilled are welcome  :), even anyone
anything-skilled are welcome too :)

So to avoid any flamewar, the idea is to make the community grow not to
split it. So I encorage anyone to do the same for his localgroup.

we also have an nabble interface

http://n2.nabble.com/Openmoko-spanish-community-list-f1077272.html

meanwhile has not been published in the new list ,you can look at the
old messages in google groups list at 

http://groups.google.es/group/openmoko-spain

Best Regards and thanks  again Michael for all the efford  and to no
smash the BT fly (any one asking himself what a BT fly is please send
a private mail directly to me :) )


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Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-09 Thread David Samblas
You can allways use compiled package and avoid to compile anything on
gentoo,, and due we all use almos the same machine is no sense to compile
over and over again, only if you find that a packges is not already
compliled you can do it your self and the share with the rest to avoid it.

Regards

David Samblas

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Rodney Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sep 9, 2008, at 7:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 02:51:14PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:

 On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 01:00:36PM +0100, Al Johnson wrote:

 On Tuesday 09 September 2008, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:

 I hope you guys don't mind killing your phone or uSD's memory sooner
 than everyone else :)


 Why? Are you making some unwarranted assumptions about using Gentoo on
 embedded systems?


 No unwarranted assumption, the only argument you could throw back at me
 is
 an argument against using Gentoo instead of any .deb or .rpm based
 distribution ;)

 Please, no distro-war, you're free to kill your flash devices sooner ;)

 Why would it kill the flash?


 With all of the thrashing, while it's attempting to compile everything?

 I know that I have gentoo on a MythTV box, and when installing anything
 heavy, forget using it for 1/2 to 3/4 of a day.

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FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download

2008-09-09 Thread David Samblas
Hi there,
you have aviable on http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM a rootfs/kenel
image ready to flash of an OM2008.08-updates distribution with some apps
already installed and some fixes posted in the lists done.

here you have more detailed information

http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM/README.txt

I recommend you to use wget -c to retrieve the files because of the server
seems to cut the connection time to time, a most robust mirror is on the way

Sugesstions , comments, and anything else will be welcome

Regards and a hug

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Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download

2008-09-09 Thread David Samblas
:) please let make spectations at safety levels :) FDOM is not more than
a few opkg installs, a little bit of glue here and a few painting there
but basically stills a OM2008.8-update :)

Jay (and others) I sugesst you to backup your own image first , just as
precaution :).

Here is a method i have used to generate the image of FSDOM.

on  Neo(or though an ssh session on Neo)

opkg mkfs-jffs2
mkdir  /var/tmp/root
mount -t jffs2 /dev/mtdblock6 /var/tmp/root

on PC

(pv used to se the progres of the operation, executed on ubuntu 8.04,
change neos ip if needed)
sudo aptitude install pv

ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] mkfs.jffs2 -d /var/tmp/root -e 128 --pad
--no-cleanmarkers -x lzo | pv -W 
the_name_of_your_rootfs_image_here.jffs2

scp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/boot/uImage-2.6.24
the_name_of_your_kernel_image_here.bin

Regards and thanks you all :)
El mar, 09-09-2008 a las 19:09 +0200, Jay Vaughan escribió:
  p.s. looks interesting - installing now!
 
 
 after a long hiatus away from the freerunner hacking for a month or so  
 (hey, so i got an iphone, sue me!) i am very glad to see that there  
 are folks now sharing booting images!  this is gotta be good for  
 freerunner now, which btw i -have- been using as a main cell phone a  
 bit more recently as well too (iphone calls are expensive), so there  
 is trepidation about taking my - Working Freerunner - and putting some  
 random image on it!
 
 but, thats what its for, so .. here goes!! me too :)
 
 
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Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download

2008-09-09 Thread David Samblas
El mar, 09-09-2008 a las 23:30 +, JW escribió:
 Jean-Eric Cuendet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  In the README, I see:-tangogps -configured to use google mapsDoes that 
  means
 WIFI is needed for TangoGPS to work?Or is there a way to download Google 
 Maps? 
 
 tangoGPS allows you to download tiles of maps (at various scales) and store on
 SD card when in range of Wifi for later use when out and about (works with OSM
 or googlemaps)
 
well on sd card or whatever you have configured in the config tab on the
Map Repositories in the Cache Dir field, each source has his own
independant dir in FSDOM are all preconfigured to be stored n their own
dir inside /home/root/Maps, you can easyly create an ln to an sd dir or
mount a sd parttion in that directory, or change the config of course ;)
 tangoGPS also allows GPRS or WIFI instant download of maps when needed
 
 [disclaimer - this knowledge all second hand]
 
To download maps, tap on the map n the popup menu select map download,
and then select the deepth of maps you want to download
 JW
 
 
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Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download

2008-09-09 Thread David Samblas
El mar, 09-09-2008 a las 19:53 -0400, Charles Pax escribió:
 When I hit the power button the screen faded out (suspend?), but I
 can't get it to come back on. I was running TangoGPS at the time.
 Anyone have a hint?
seems to be a kernel bug waiting to be fixed
http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1884
Remember that FSOM is basically an 2008.08-update 
Regards
 
 -Charles
 
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Re: A little zenity-gui for flashing images to the neo

2008-09-08 Thread David Samblas
#which command_here 
will return the full path of the command.
example: 
#which which
/usr/bin/which  
El lun, 08-09-2008 a las 08:59 +0200, Daniel Hedblom escribió:
 Nice work,
 
 I used the dfu-util from debian Lenny that gets installed in /usr/bin
 instead of /usr/local/bin. Anyone that has a nice way of checking the
 users paths for a specific app?
 
 //danielh
 
 2008/9/8 Dale Maggee [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Charles Pax wrote:
 
  On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 6:34 PM, Joel Newkirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
 
 
  Sounds like you did a cut'n'paste from email.  The problem is that long
  lines are wrapped, which breaks programs/scripts.  There's at least three
  places in the script that suffer from word-wrap, including several lines
  that start at line 66.
 
 
 
  Yup, did a cut n' paste. I tried the attachment and it worked just fine.
  Maybe a future version can offer to fetch dfu-util. Thanks for the help.
 
  -Charles
 
 
  Nice suggestion! Done!
 
  -Dale
 
  #!/bin/bash
  # dfu-util Image-Flashing Gui 0.2
 
  function check_dfu {
 
 if [ ! -x $dfutils_path ]; then
 #look in current folder...
 if [ -x './dfu-util' ]; then
 dfutils_path='./dfu-util'
 else
 zenity --question --text The dfu utility could not
  be found at $dfutils_path, or is not exceutable. Do you want to
  automagically download it from downloads.openmoko.org?
 if [ $? = 0 ]; then
 rm ./dfu-util  /dev/null
 wget
  http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/dfu-util
 chmod a+x ./dfu-util /dev/null
 dfutils_path='./dfu-util'
 else
 dfutils_path=$(zenity --file-selection
  --title=Locate the dfu-util executable: --filename=$dfutils_path)
 fi
 
 if [ -z $dfutils_path ]; then
 echo Cancelled!
 exit
 fi
 #check selection...
 check_dfu
 fi
 fi
  }
 
  function perform_flash {
 # $1 - what we're flashing (for display)
 # $2 - dfu-params
 # $3 - file to flash
 
 echo
 echo *** Flashing $1 with $3 ...
 echo
 
 $dfutils_path $2 $3 2 $tmp_error_log_path
 # add the following line to the previous line to get back the zenity
  progress dialog:
 # | zenity --progress --pulsate --percentage=0 --title Flashing in
  progress.. --auto-close
 
 if [ ${PIPESTATUS[0]} != 0 ];then
 zenity --error --text Some error occured while flashing
  $1.\n\nError message:\n`cat $tmp_error_log_path`
 exit
 else
 #sleep to allow dfu to reset...
 sleep 2
 fi
  }
 
  dfutils_path='/usr/local/bin/dfu-util'
 
  check_dfu
 
  tmp_error_log_path='/tmp/flash-error-log'
 
  ans=$(zenity  --list --text What do you wanna flash? --title dfu-util
  gui --checklist --column Pick --column Option TRUE Root-Filesystem TRUE
  Kernel FALSE Bootloader)
 
  if [ -z $ans ]; then
 #handle cancel / no selection...
 echo Nothing to do!
 exit
  fi
 
  txt=The flashing will now start.\n\nMake sure your Neo is connected to the
  USB-Device and booted into the Nor (for kernel and rootfs) or Nand (for
  u-boot) screen before proceeding.\nRemember that flashing a large image like
  a rootfs will take some time so don't abort it.\n\n
 
  if [ -n `echo $ans | grep Root-Filesystem` ];then
 du_param_r='-a rootfs -R -D'
 rootfs=True
 img_file_r=$(zenity --file-selection --title=Select an image-file
  for the ROOTFS:)
 if [ $img_file_r =  ]; then
 echo Cancelled!
 exit
 fi
 txt=$txt - Flashing rootfs with $img_file_r \n\n
  fi
 
  if [ -n `echo $ans | grep Kernel` ];then
 du_param_k='-a kernel -R -D'
 kernel=True
 img_file_k=$(zenity --file-selection --title=Select an image-file
  for the KERNEL:)
 if [ $img_file_k =  ]; then
 echo Cancelled!
 exit
 fi
 txt=$txt - Flashing kernel with $img_file_k \n\n
  fi
 
  if [ -n ` echo $ans | grep Bootloader` ];then
 du_param_u='-a u-boot -R -D'
 uboot=True
 img_file_u=$(zenity --file-selection --title=Select an image-file
  for UBOOT:)
 if [ $img_file_u =  ]; then
 echo Cancelled!
 exit
 fi
 txt=$txt - Flashing uboot with $img_file_u \n\n
  fi
 
  touch $tmp_error_log_path
 
  zenity --info --text $txt
 
  if [ $rootfs = True ]; then
 perform_flash rootfs $du_param_r $img_file_r
  fi
 
  if [ $kernel = True ]; then
 perform_flash 

Re: How to change the GTK theme on 2008.8 update

2008-09-02 Thread David Samblas
Thanks Natanael, terminal and tangogps are readable again :)

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Natanael Arndt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Am Dienstag, 2. September 2008 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño):
  Natanael Arndt wrote:
   Hallo,
   in the early versions of 2007 there where these nice png grafics on the
   gtk buttons, but later they has been removed, because it was to slow.
 Now
   in 2008 there is again this slow and nice gtk theme, how can i change
   this to the faster one?
 
  opkg install
 
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2007.2/armv4t/moko-gtk-engine_0
 .
 1.0+svnr4411-r0_armv4t.ipk
 
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2007.2/armv4t/moko-gtk-theme_0.1
 .0+svnr4411-r0_armv4t.ipk
 
  I don't really know why they're not so update in 2008.8!

 Cool,
 thankyou. Could somebody responsible for the repository put this in there,
 please?

 be blessed
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Re: Om2008.8 - latest update - FR suspends after 30 secs - unconditionally

2008-09-01 Thread David Samblas
seems that the 20080901 solves this, but no apps :) only settings, I suppose
there will be no problem on intall them from repository this afternoon I
will give a try

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Maciej Delmanowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 On Aug 31, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
  1) http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8-update/

 Hello everyone, it's my first post here. :-)

 It might be blunt, but does anyone have old images of 2008.8-update without
 this problem with unconditional suspend? Or maybe there could be an archive
 of, say, week of packages (they have date in their filename anyway), so if
 one
 version doesn't suddenly do what you want, you can always try the previous
 one?

 Best regards,
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testing 20080901 first steps to 2008.09??

2008-09-01 Thread David Samblas
I'm only corious,  I have being taking a look to the
http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing-om-gta02-20080901.rootfs.tar.gz
intalling it to my sd card,

Inspite the it's really barebones, I have seen very interestings things by
default,
the raster ilume pack:
  qwerty on/off button
  the illume keyboard (oh Yes! :) )
  illume configuration

the backgound image is pretty zen and beatifull and screen dims smothly.

Of course it's not functional at all because it has no apps but settings
(that doesn't work for me), and I was unnable to ssh to it so I was no able
to not further testing, but  doesn't  matter because is clear is a proof-of
concept release. I will wait for the next test release (maybe tomorrow?,
it's a really dayly?)


My question is , I can assume the good things mentioned avobe will be
mantained in the oficial (semi-stable) 2008.09 release?

Have you decide the date off that 2008.09 release?

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