Re: Kernel 3.x and Freerunner

2014-01-30 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 11:54:40 +0100
Mike Crash m...@mikecrash.com wrote:

 Hello,
 
 last two years I was busy with other private stuff, now I have
 returned to my old projects and also my Neo. I have completely
 rewritten my software and I want to compile it for Neo. But new
 software is not compatible with old kernel (for example udev).
 
 I have tried to boot up Neo and what a surprice, everything works as 2
 years ago. Only battery has half of capacity...
 
 I want to ask if there was some progress in support of Neo Freerunner
 in stock kernel.
There is some support for it in mainline, I'm not sure that it's enough
to suit your usecase, beside patches to fix some gta02-specific issues
or patch that should have been submited to mainline that weren't, some
drivers are not in mainline:
 * The glamo driver.
 * The wifi driver: I've been told that the mainline ath6kl was very
   different from the one in the freerunner, and that it was because
   the firmware of the very early ath6k of the freerunner was very
   different.

 I still use old 2.6.29 with openmoko modifications,
 is it possible to use kernel 3.13?
No idea, you have to try it out, be sure to get a debug board for that:
1) configure(stuff like make ARCH=arm xconfig/menuconfig for instance)
the kernel for the gta02, by looking at the existing configurations of
the lastest kernel
2) compile and run it
3) you'll have no display working at that point, so that's why you
really need the serial console at first.
4) forward-port the patches specific to the GTA02 and the missing
drivers.
In order to have to do it only once, do that with mainlining in mind,
and do use the devicetree. mainline the patches.

 I don't need phone functionality,
 only display,
That requires the glamo, so you'll have to forward port the glamo
driver at least.
 audio
That driver is in mainline, but maybe without devicetree bindings.

 and gps.
Shouldn't be too hard to mainline, assuming you choose the right
framwork for it. if I remember well, it's just some gpio toggling, and
that can even been done in userspace if mainling that is difficult.
 I have looked around, there are some Neo
 stuff in stock kernel, but I don't know, if it is usable.
Last news I have, which is really old, is that SHR had the most recent
kernels in their meta-smartphone layer, but I'm unsure if that's used
or not.

 Please can
 anybody tell me, what's the situation now? Have anybody tried new
 stock kernels?
It depends on what you mean by new, SHR had a more rencent kernel
with almost everything working beside the regulators, which means that
GPS, modem, and wifi had issues.
Since it was just some GPIOs it could have been worked arround in
userspace, like by modifying the fso plugins again.

Denis.


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Re: The open hardware phone project that's had the most interest

2013-10-17 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Sat, 5 Oct 2013 17:19:18 +0200
joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org wrote:

 In the last 50 years I've seen only _one_ truly modular concept for
 electronic circuits that would basically meet the flexibility
 requirements you are asking for: 
 http://makezine.com/2011/12/08/the-braun-lectron-system-retro-circuit-
 dominoes/
 
 /j

The bug device 2.0 from buglabs is modular too.
(The kernel is a bit old though: 2.6.35)

Denis.

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Re: The open hardware phone project that's had the most interest

2013-10-17 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Sat, 05 Oct 2013 17:24:51 +0200
Raphael Wimmer raphael.wim...@ifi.lmu.de wrote:

 * The concept assumes that all components use a common communication  
 backplane. This is not feasible, as a variety of voltages and  
 communication protocols are in use in a typical phone (I2C, SPI,
 UART, USB, various display protocols, etc.). Many components need
 very short connections to the CPU/GPU/whatever without crossing other
 PCB traces. It is not realistic to make this work with a generic
 communication backplane. Proper heat dissipation for CPU/GPU is
 another problem.
Or to use big connectors...that have dedicated pins for all theses
things...like with the bug device 2.0 from buglabs.

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Re: The open hardware phone project that's had the most interest

2013-10-17 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Sat, 05 Oct 2013 15:00:07 -0400
Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote:
 And it would be bulkier and more expensive than a non-modular phone,
 of course.
http://components.arrow.com/part/search/buglabs
The main cost in doing that is the plastic of the modules.

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Re: [Gta04-owner] Invitation to indicate interest in next batch of GTA04A5 boards

2013-04-03 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 08:59:03 +0200
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote:

 
 Am 02.04.2013 um 22:35 schrieb Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli:
 
  On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 11:22:39 +0100
  Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote:
  
  So we unfortunately have to postpone the production of GTA04A5
  boards, until someone manages to create more demand.
  
  This is a little sad, since we now have solved all technological
  problems and could start production anytime (well the longer we
  wait the more components will become EOL and have to be
  substituted).
  
  Anyways we will continue to support the existing GTA04A3/A4 by
  improving the kernel, boot loader etc.
  
  If you have ideas how to stimulate demand, please do
  Yes I've an idea and I'll continue to work on it really soon:
  Port Replicant to that phone.
  
  The current status is that I've a 3.8 kernel booting on it with
  display, input, wakelocks etc(the android stuff)...
  So far adb makes the kernel null pointers at shutdown.
  Also It's highly untested...
 
 Is there some project page? Download link or something.
Since it's not ready yet, there is no official images yet, and the
documentation on the replicant wiki is a bit outdated with reguard to
the GTA04, I prefer to make it usable first.

The repositories for the GTA04 are not even integrated yet in the build
system(people building replicant for the gta04 are expected to git
clone them by hand...).

Note that I will need help from someone having an A4(like paulk for
instance) for doing the Alsa userspace part once the kernel is
complete...

Right now the issue is to permit proper shutdown after using adb...That
is harder than expected because I cannot use kgdb(I've some toolchain
issues with DWARF/debug symbols)

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Re: [Gta04-owner] Invitation to indicate interest in next batch of GTA04A5 boards

2013-04-02 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 11:22:39 +0100
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote:

 So we unfortunately have to postpone the production of GTA04A5 boards,
 until someone manages to create more demand.
 
 This is a little sad, since we now have solved all technological
 problems and could start production anytime (well the longer we wait
 the more components will become EOL and have to be substituted).
 
 Anyways we will continue to support the existing GTA04A3/A4 by
 improving the kernel, boot loader etc.
 
 If you have ideas how to stimulate demand, please do
Yes I've an idea and I'll continue to work on it really soon:
Port Replicant to that phone.

The current status is that I've a 3.8 kernel booting on it with
display, input, wakelocks etc(the android stuff)...
So far adb makes the kernel null pointers at shutdown.
Also It's highly untested...

Before we couldn't even get it booting correctly under replicant 4.0:
or there were some interrupt issue, or there were some touchscreen
isue(that I solved in that 3.8 kernel).

Denis.

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Re: [Gta04-owner] Invitation to indicate interest in next batch of GTA04A5 boards

2013-04-02 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 15:58:10 +0100
Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote:

 I think there might be interest in encrypted GSM calls - those
 customers would be not worried by big price. It's just matter of
 implementing SW for it.
There are several solutions for that but using plain GSM won't work
because of the TRAU(Transcoder and Rate Adaptation Unit) in the GSM
network.
Using data calls directly would be too expensive...

So the best solution is to use encrypted SIP over the internet(like
trough a 3G connection) possibly over a VPN(because some providers
prevent SIP to go trough their networks).

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Re: GTA02 act as gps mouse?

2013-03-17 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
Hi,

I'd also like to use my gta02 as bluetooth GPS with Android(Replicant)
devices.

There is an application for that in FDroid(a free software market/google
play replacement that contains only free software):
http://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdcategory=Navigationfdid=org.broeuschmeul.android.gps.bluetooth.provider
The application is called BlueGPS

I've tried to make an up to date python application for the freerunner
from scratch...

But my application is not reliable at all:
- it can only be closed by a kill (because of the while True: at the
end), I did the while true because rfcomm was not always reliable at
the beginning, maybe I should restest without it...
- bluez is somehow unreliable and it doesn't always find the adapter.

So to use it, install Fdroid, then BlueGPS within Fdroid.
then run my gps script.
Then do that on the freerunner:
wget
http://git.kernel.org/cgit/bluetooth/bluez.git/plain/test/simple-agent?id=910ffb4ca785da71b670bf105e234435c67fd7fe
-O simple-agent
chmod +x simple-agent
./simple-agent

That will permit you to pair it with android...
you'll have to enter a pin on android and in simple-agent...

Denis.#! /usr/bin/env python2

#Copyright (C) 2013  Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli gnu...@no-log.org
#
#This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify
#it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
#the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or
#(at your option) any later version.
#
#This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
#but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
#MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
#GNU General Public License for more details.
#
#You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
#along with this program.  If not, see http://www.gnu.org/licenses/.

import dbus
import os
import subprocess
from dbus.mainloop.glib import DBusGMainLoop
DBusGMainLoop(set_as_default=True)

bus = dbus.SystemBus()

usage_obj = bus.get_object('org.freesmartphone.ousaged', '/org/freesmartphone/Usage')
usage_iface = dbus.Interface(usage_obj, 'org.freesmartphone.Usage')

usage_iface.RequestResource(Bluetooth)
usage_iface.RequestResource(CPU)
usage_iface.RequestResource(GPS)


try:
	pid = subprocess.check_output(pidof bluetoothd, shell=True).replace('\n','')
except:
	os.system(bluetoothd)
	pid = subprocess.check_output(pidof bluetoothd, shell=True).replace('\n','')

print the bluez pid is  + pid

bluez_obj = bus.get_object('org.bluez', /org/bluez/{0}/hci0.format(pid))
bluez_adapter_iface = dbus.Interface(bluez_obj, 'org.bluez.Adapter')

bluez_adapter_iface.SetProperty(Discoverable, True)

while True:
	try:
		os.system(rfcomm watch /dev/rfcomm0 1 sh -c \gpspipe -r  /dev/rfcomm0\)
	except KeyboardInterrupt:
		os.system(killall rfcomm)
		exit(0)
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Re: tizen released

2013-02-18 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 23:44:58 +0800
Paul Wise pa...@bonedaddy.net wrote:
 git repos here:
 
 https://review.tizen.org/git/
was it ported on some real devices beside the emulator?

Denis.


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Re: Stripped down GTA04A5 - interested?

2013-01-22 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 10:18:45 +0100
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote:

 * no Sirf IV GPS receiver (but internal Antenna with GPS receiver
 inside UMTS module will be available)
That's kind of problematic for privacy, with that anti-feature you can
be localized more precisely trough RLLP[1] for instance.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RRLP

Denis.

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Re: [Shr-Devel] silent SMS

2013-01-12 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 16:15:10 +0100
Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote:

 
 Hello,
Hi,
 are such messages signalled by the modem to the software
I don't know in fso, I should try...

But with the luca/catcher branch of
osmocomb you can notice silent SMS with show catcher command.

But the luca/catcher branch is outdated and It didn't work for me, so
checkout origin/master and cherry-pick that patch:
05d3836041595a099c0db975fd6bd855ee12cce1

you also need a recent osmocon in SHR: I'm not even
sure that there is one in the feeds, altough there is one in
meta-smartphone/meta-osmocombb.

Denis.

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Re: [FOSDEM-Devrooms] World of OpenPhoenux

2013-01-08 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 09:27:02 +0100
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote:

 * Replicant software
And a talk about that too.

Denis.

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Re: Would offer my gta04...

2012-12-30 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 13:00:24 +0100
ri...@happyleptic.org wrote:

 ...to someone who think he can contribute something to this project.
 
 I'm too lazy to package and ship it so the hacker would have to live
 near Paris (fr).
 
 I received it many time ago but haven't played with it yet (beside
 installing the MoBo and checking it's working). Let's be honnest,
 I won't have time to dig in this, so it's better if I pass it along.
Which version(A3/A4/A5) is it?

Denis.

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Re: [off-topic] smartphone alternatives?

2012-12-19 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 11:06:01 +0100
cyberesprit cyberesp...@cyberesprit.fr wrote:

 hi!
  
 There may be geeksphones?
 http://www.geeksphone.com/old/en/moviles/zero/
 * The geeksphones(one and zero) require proprietary userspace
   libraries.
 * The geeksphones(one and zero) use a qualcomm System on a chip, which
   means that the sound card, the GPS Are attached to the Modem, not
   to mention the Shared memory(RAM attached on modem and CPU Bus) and
   shared NAND...

Basically it's really bad for freedom.

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Re: [off-topic] smartphone alternatives?

2012-12-19 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 21:28:48 +0100
arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote:

 speaking of the n900: FSO is supposed to support that one and i guess
 SHR would work too. i hope to get another n900 in a near future and
 to be able to test that
Nice, we need help for the Modem-Sound card forwarder, because
currently no one has time to fix it even if it's easy to fix(basically
I've wrote(in code) what needed to be done but it's unfinished...and
sits in branches...).

Apart that GPS protocol is known but unimplemented, bluetooth is broken
in SHR, meego, mer kernels, wifi works, camera probably works(you need
some media-controller userspace commands to make it work, I documented
it on the wiki, I don't remember which one between mplayer or gstreamer
worked with theses commands, but still meego had a gstreamer plugin for
the camera, we didn't package it tough), Audio works, Calls too but
with sound issues, data/3g works, retriving contacts from the sim isn't
implemented, and SMS isn't implemented either...

The modem(and the GPS which is attached to the modem) talks a protocol
called ISI, which is moslty documented by some headers and by ofono
code.

There is also a newer 3.x kernel that should be tried, it's from the
port of Arch(a GNU/Linux distribution) on that phone.

Denis.

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Re: [off-topic] smartphone alternatives?

2012-12-19 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:29:49 +0100
francesco.dev...@mailoo.org wrote:
 But on another mobile system I'm lost, I have to learn it and maybe I 
 don't want to.
Yes android is very different.
 And who assure me that I'm free as I am on a GTA?
I can assure you that you're not as free as on the GTA because the
hardware will have issues.
The closest phone is the GTA04, but it has a non-free wifi firmware.
 - may I have a shell?
In Replicant/Android there is a shell and a GUI for it.
 - may I write a bash script?
there is bash/sh in Replicant/Android.
 - may I control every services on it?
Not in Replicant/Android
 - may I upgrade a single package 
yes, Fdroid supports that.
or the entire system as I want?
You'll have to reflash in Replicant.
 - may I install a software from source?
You can't compile stuff on The target in Replicant, you'll have to use
the SDK on a desktop/laptop computer.
 
 Maybe yes, there are Android and its free fork Replicant and their
 SDKs but I have first to learn it.
Indeed.
 Smartphones are computers, and it makes me crazy that they do not
 work (software side) EXACTLY as my pc.
Yes that's a problem.
 IMHO it would be wonderful to have the same OS on desktop PCs and 
 smarphones, maybe with different software repositories. I'm a Debian 
 user and for me QtMoko is wonderful.
ok.
 So, to sum it up, it makes me nervous to have a new powerful
 smartphone if I cannot do what I want. Following this thought, I
 think the best solution is to have a cheap mobile phone and a
 netbook/tablet with a gnu/linux distro on it.
or to port GNU/Linux on a smartphone that is easy enough, if you're
into that kind of things and if you're skilled enough for that
Or just buy a supported phone, however be sure to ask informations on
the smartphone before buying it to the distro's developers.
 Well... for now I still have my GTA02, I'll have to buy just a cheap 
 phone for GSM and battery emergencies.
 [ If someone could help me for the bass fix I'll be happy to use it, 
 finally, also as an audio player (: ]
Golden delicious did all fixes... 
 The recent news about the GTA04 make me happy, maybe I don't have to 
 wait too long for it.
Yes it's a really good device: it's almost like the GTA02, but faster,
better, less hardware bugs, but also has a non-free wifi firmware.

Denis.

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Re: [off-topic] smartphone alternatives?

2012-12-17 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 17:59:46 +0100
francesco.dev...@mailoo.org wrote:

 Hi list
 Sadly to say, my GTA02 is going to retire. It is having too much 
 troubles to be used as a daily phone and I'm thinking to replace it.
 The perfect candidate is the GTA04 but I can't afford its cost right
 now. I didn't follow with attention the evolution of the smartphones
 market, so I'm asking you: what alternatives do I have? Is there
 something with a recent hardware but somehow open and that costs no
 more than 200€? I have to say that I'm not a big fan of android and
 for now I would prefer to go with a 30€ nokia in the pocket and a
 gnu/linux friendly tablet/netbook on the shoulders waiting for better
 times...
what about a galaxy S(should be cheap enough) with Replicant (Android)?
Else porting GNU/Linux on it shouldn't be too hard if you're skilled
enough with theses kind of things(it's already ported to the Nexus S,
and only lack very little to be usable).

Denis.

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Re: Help needed with GSM Geolocation without GPS

2012-11-06 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 16:01:21 + (UTC)
robin spielr...@web.de wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I wanted to give the GSM location a try. So what I would like to
 acchieve in the end is:
 
 0. GPS off
 1. GSM Cells are detected 
 2. Triangulation takes place (I don't know yet if eg signal strength
 is used) 3. Look-up in the OpenCellID offline (!) text database
 4. Position being shown in NeronGPS as in eg in the
 Whereabouts-Mappingdemo shown on the QtMokoDev Page [1]

Will the result work on SHR or on QtMoko or on both?

Denis.

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Re: Some questions about the freerunne

2012-10-17 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 23:45:54 +0200
Michaël Parchet mparc...@sunrise.ch wrote:

  is there a possibility to add the 3g  and make some phone with
  this ?
Maybe trough USB host but that would eat the battery fast...
  
  Is there a software to reed and edit the opendocument ?
Try abiword, abiword under SHR with the right abiword plugins could do
the trick, else there is debian with openoffice or libreoffice, It may
be ultra-slow under debian tough(because the freerunner is slow and
libreoffice requires a lot of resources.).
  Wat's the antenna quality ? it's good ?
No idea.
  
  There are a software to reed the aac (m4a) and mp3
I guess it depend on the distros, mp3 do work under SHR. I've no idea
for ACC, I guess I should try...
  What's the music format ?
I guess it depend on the distros.
  Whath's the warranty conditions ?
It depend on the seller.
  There is no camera isn't it ?
no camera, unless you add one trough USB host.

PS: get a device from golden delicious if you can, they do all the
hardware fixes:
* #1024 fix (for longer suspend time)
* bassfix (for having correct sound quality on the headset output)
* buzzfix (for not having a buzz during calls,because else you have
  some probability to get it)

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Re: problem with microsd

2012-09-28 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 11:17:30 +0200
Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all.
 I asked on shr user list with no luck.
 I'm using shr-core, I have this problem: the device for the
 microsd is not created, i.e. /dev/mmcblk0p1 does not exist.
 Do you have any fast fix?
 
 This is the problem:
 
 root@om-gta02:~# fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0
 
 Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 7948 MB, 7948206080 bytes
 4 heads, 16 sectors/track, 242560 cylinders, total 15523840 sectors
 Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
 Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
 I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
 Disk identifier: 0x36c4
 
 Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
 /dev/mmcblk0p1204812328959 6163456   83  Linux
 /dev/mmcblk0p21232896015523839 1597440   82  Linux
 swap / Solaris
 
 
 root@om-gta02:~# mount -t ext2 /dev/mmcblk0p1 /media/temp/
 mount: special device /dev/mmcblk0p1 does not exist

see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Supported_microSD_cards and its
paramters (rootwait glamo_mci.sd_max_clk=500 glamo_mci.sd_drive=3
etc...)

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Re: Problems using recent Rogers Wireless (Canada) SIMs in GTA02

2012-09-28 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 07:48:12 +0100
Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote:

 Have you tried the new SIM in any other 2G-only phone? SIMs from 3(UK
 network) seem to work only in 3G-capable devices. I never looked into
 how or why, but it's possible Rogers are doing this with new SIMs
 either by accident or design. 
 
 On Wednesday 26 September 2012 21:53:14 Pascal Gosselin wrote:
  In 2010, we were able to take circa mid-2008 Roger Wireless SIMs
  (Canada) borrowed from an iPhone 3G and get it to work in Android
  Froyo on the GTA02 850Mhz.
  
  Two years later, we decided to add some GPRS reporting capability
  to our Wi-Flight product which is currently using Wi-Fi only, we
  are unable to get a carrier registration at the AT command level
  using two Rogers SIMs (both from 2012, one used in an iPhone 4 and
  the other in a Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket (LTE)).  The GSM
  baseband code was at Moko8 so we had the  fix for bug 666.  We
  tried Moko11 but it didn't make a difference.
  
  We repeated the same Android Froyo setup and indeed it doesn't work
  when we try the circa 2012 SIMs.
What's your setup exactly?
  
  Our product doesn't run on Android, the Froyo stuff was just tried
  to attempt to replicate something that worked before.
  
  I found a working older Rogers full-sized SIM from my GSM-enabled
  alarm system, which I think it at least 3-4 years old.  It worked
  just fine in a Nexus S and I was able to send an SMS and Edge data
  from the phone (it's a T-mobile AWS phone so no 3G on Rogers).
  
  The conclusion so far is that something has changed in the Rogers
  SIMs that makes it incompatible with the GTA02.  I am wondering if
  anyone else has encountered this problem.  I'd be happy to be able
  to get a Fido-branded card to work (haven't tried that yet).
  
  We've repeated the same issue with a half-dozen GTA02s so we're
  pretty sure it's not a one-off phone problem.
Maybe you could try to debug it with simtrace(the hardware for
tracing SIM communications, that is compatible with wireshark 1.8)?

However if it's a problem with the modem firmware it would be hard to
fix, one may think that there is osmocombb, but *selling* phones with
osmocombb preinstalled may not be legal in your jurisdiction(I'm not
a lawyer tough...).

In that case I guess you would need to switch to another GNU/Linux
phone(such as a GTA04, or another phone supported by SHR for
instance,but that means that you'll probably have some availability
issues(you'll need to find a reliable way to get such phone in the
long run...)).

Denis.

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Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-08-03 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Fri, 2012-08-03 at 16:47 +0200, Neil Jerram wrote:
 Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli gnu...@no-log.org writes:
 
  On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 23:13 +0200, Neil Jerram wrote:
  
   - GPS: it seems clear now that it was a mistake to pull that under
  the
 FSO umbrella, and that mobile devices should just use standard gpsd
 instead 
  However I was told that adding support for AGPS and GTA02 UBX would not
  be straingtforward in gpsd.
 
  AGPS is very usefull to save/restore the AGPS data offline in order to
  speedup the fix.
 
  All that works on ogps.
 
 Hmm.  I should probably concede here because I don't know any of the
 details or history.  Technically, however, I'm surprised if there was no
 feasible way of doing this with gpsd.
yes there is, I'm trying to use the hooks right now(I already fixed the
permissions for doing that).

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Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-08-01 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 23:13 +0200, Neil Jerram wrote:
 
  - GPS: it seems clear now that it was a mistake to pull that under
 the
FSO umbrella, and that mobile devices should just use standard gpsd
instead 
However I was told that adding support for AGPS and GTA02 UBX would not
be straingtforward in gpsd.

AGPS is very usefull to save/restore the AGPS data offline in order to
speedup the fix.

All that works on ogps.

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Re: Open GSM firmware - OsmocomBB supports Neo FreeRunner

2012-07-10 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 13:14 +0200, Martix wrote:
 Hi!
 
 There is some GTA02 support in OsmocomBB project. You can flash open 
 source firmware for TI Calypso GSM modem.
 http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/OpenMoko
1) no need to flash it, just load it.
2) flashing doesn't work currently with the calypso of the openmoko
because its flash is not detected.
 
 Did anybody tried this firmware on his Neo FreeRunner? What's your 
 experience? Is it usable with SHR or Qt Moko like old proprietary 
 firmware? Calls, SMS, GPRS, SIM load/store (contacts, SMSs) works? How 
 many successfully flashed devices are here? And how many bricks? ;-)
Calls, SMS, SIM should worktrough the telnet interface...
I'm not sure about the GPRS...

Adding support for osmocombb in FSO is doable, however the big problem
is that the layer 2 and layer 3 of GSM are actually not running on the
calypso but on another CPU(for instance the CPU of a laptop/desktop, or
it could run on the CPU running SHR as well, it only requires to
cross-compile applications such as mobile etc..., it's easy to do).

Why is running the layer 2 and 3 on the calypso CPU important?
Simply because you may want to permit the CPU running SHR to suspend and
to resume when you have a call or an SMS: with the proprietary
firmware(which runs layer 1,2,3 on the calypso) it works that way:
I don't know the exact details but I guess there is an interrupt line
between the modem(calypso) and the CPU.

If the CPU running SHR is suspended and that there is a call, the
calypso, which is not suspended will trigger the wakeup of the CPU
running SHR, the CPU will then wakeup and display that there is a
call,ring and vibrate.

I'm not a GSM protocol specialist yet, but I guess that if you're only
running layer1 on the calypso you have no way to determine if there is
an incoming call. The CPU that can do that is the one running SHR, and
the layer 2 and 3, however if that CPU is suspended it can't know that
there is a call.

A workaround suggested long time ago by someone on IRC would be to wake
up the CPU often and check if there is a call, however that may not be
doable because suspend/resume may take quite some time, and the wakeup
would eat more power etc...

There are 2 ways to solve the problem correctly:
1) help with the port of the GSM applications on top of nuttx:
While the gta02 is supported in nuttx,we were currently focussing on the
c155 with its drivers(such as display,spi,uwire,poweroff etc...)
2) port the layer 2 and 3 to the calypso without the help of nuttx.

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Deseperately need some GTA02 debug board cable...

2012-06-20 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
Hi,

my debug board cable again broke...

With the debug board I was able to send some patches upstream like:
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git;a=commit;h=ad20ff920c1fd217578e2c637dd50c1878a21c06
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git;a=commit;h=b2ccf065f7b23147ed135a41b01d05a332ca6b7e
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git;a=commit;h=b26469a8b139fba11d9336c1c117fafccfa9c7d5
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git;a=commit;h=1ae5cbc52e7c6619a3f44b87809fd25370df31bb

I was also able to produce updated
kernels( https://gitorious.org/shr/linux/commits/shr-2.6.39-nodrm
shr-3.x-nodrm branches ) for the gta02 but I didn't have enough time to
fix all the bugs yet so they are not in use yet...

The big problem is that It's way harder to track bugs without a debug
board cable: with a debug board you can git bisect in a way more
efficient way: you only need to apply a minimal set of patches on top of
the commit you're testing...since you have serial you can see the output
and interact with the phone...

So Instead of finding or buying one debug board each time my cable break
again I think it's way more efficient to get some cables-only.

Does someone gives or sell such cables separately?

Note(for the person selling/giving such cables) that the debug board
itself still can be used separately from an openmoko: it is possible to
use it as a BIOS flasher
( http://flashrom.org/FT2232SPI_Programmer#Openmoko ),serial port
adapter or JTAG adapter...

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Re: [dfu-util] who use it for flashing FR?

2012-05-07 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Monday, May 07, 2012 02:58:24 PM Patryk Benderz wrote:
 Hi all,
 regarding recent discussion on de...@lists.openmoko.org [1] I am asking,
 how many of you are still using dfu-util for flashing your FR's internal
I do but I have not to forget to nand scrub my NAND before booting ( 
http://shr-project.org/trac/ticket/1524 )
 memory?
 I also would like to inform you about new dfu-util release.[2]
thanks.

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Re: Discussion: what are your dreams for the Openmoko Community

2012-04-28 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
 So what are your dreams with respect to open mobile handhelds?
I desesperately want an usable phone for my use case:
1) free software only on the main CPU.
2)reliable telephony:
Without a good SHR forwarder I can't use it at all, even if I forget 
about the other issues.
I also suspect that the CPU is at 1GHz instead of 800Mhz with the 3.2 
kernel in SHR, which makes the CPU overheat when it's at 100% too often which 
makes the phone shut down.

3)music playing in headphones by whatever means(bluetooth or wired, wired 
preferabily):
I still need to resolder correctly my headphones.
I would really like to install SHR on NAND to use my fat32 microsd but 
NAND isn't reliable, it only booted 1 of 2 times last time I tested:
-the time where it doesn't boot I've tons of ECC errors
-no errors at all when it boots fine.

4)reliable browsing without adds:
We(SHR) failed there too:
midori segfaults at startup
eve doesn't support add blocking
chromium doesn't support add-blocking
firefox segfault at startup
links -g segfault at startup

5)as a bonus: the ability to port applications to it(=not android, GNU/Linux 
with an openembedded-based build system, SHR fits it).

6)as a second bonus: people writing cool applications for the device(like 
applications to use the sensor, privacy applications like sms encryption 
etc... basically a bit like what's in FDroid[1])

So beause of the forwarding issue I'm back to the gta02 even if it has 
suspend/resume issue(big issues).
Qtmoko wasn't really usable for me either(the volume is not loud enough for 
Italy(very noisy country)) so when I tried it I couldn't ear a thing from the 
remote person.

 What would you like as future hardware?
I just need an usable smartphone, I don't care that much about the hardware 
but an n900-like device(800x480 screen resolution and orientation+a keyboard) 
would be nice because it would make software fit better on the screen.
Since we don't have the manpower to fix all software to fit on the gta04 
screen, 
why not adapt the phone instead?
some games(wesnoth,supertux etc...) work well with 800x480, and many 
applications were ported to that resolution for  the eeepc701.

 What to see in software
 distros? Anything else? 
 What missing piece are you waiting for?
A forwarder and more implications from the SHR developers that are away and 
will come back one day(tm).

The lack of implication from some SHR developers(not all:
some like Martin Jansa really do a good job, Simon Busch also do a very good 
job even if he's only a freesmartphone.org developper now) really annoyed me 
up to the point to made me quit SHR officially:
things didn't advance fast enough, and no one was there for helping me in some 
difficult tasks like the forwarding, which made me frustrate more and also take 
even more work, which creates a burn out... which makes people quit.
The quiting had a huge effect the week, everybody was on IRC and really worked 
on SHR and FSO, after but this week is kind of dead with only the usual 
minimal set of SHR developers(Martin Jansa)

I really wonder what to domaybe I should work on the forwarder again

Denis.

[1] http://fdroid.org/

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Re: what to with 02 when upgrading to 04? was: Re: How to bring forward the community?

2012-03-05 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
It may not be that complicated, but it is morally wrong.  It is
morally wrong to help or support someone who is guilty of hoarding the
good code and denying it to the public.
so proprietary software(calypso source code is not free software) is morally 
good and free software(osmocombb and nuttx/nuttx-bb is free software) is 
morally wrong?

And note that even if they had part of the source, and that's not enough.
you want full source code and usually companies modifying the firmware 
basebands like openmoko don't have access to that.
but osmocom-bb is maybe inefficent righ now(I'm working on fixing that )
but at least you have full source code of layer 1, layer 2, layer 3
you can do calls, sms etc...with it.
you have even forks to detect if there are spying equipement connected to the 
network etc...
you can get a real estimation of the RSSI and findout if the levels are too low 
and calling is dangerous...

if you don't like contributing to osmocom-bb maybe you could contribute to fso 
and make it use osmocom-bb telnet interface for layer23?

And about Harald Welte, you forget that he spent a lot of time studying GSM 
protocols, standards, writing the osmocom-bb code and he released that under a 
free software license with full source code, isn't that great?
but you seem to prefer proprietary source code.

Also, note that the non-free source code may be big, who would review it for 
backdoors? how would you compile it without non-free software? nobody would 
contribute to it etc...

The only usefullness of proprietary source code is as a documentation to 
produce free source code.

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Re: what to with 02 when upgrading to 04? was: Re: How to bring forward the community?

2012-03-04 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
- what's so hackable about the calypso fw? as far as i recall, it was a  
major afford to get an updated fw and make it flashable. and how much less  
hackable is the new gsm chip's fw?
Well, you can run osmocom-bb or nuttx on it.

for instance with nuttx:
root@om-gta02:~# /etc/init.d/dbus-1 stop
Stopping system message bus: dbus.
root@om-gta02:~# /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm stop
Stopping XServer
root@om-gta02:~# osmocon -i 13 -m romload -p /dev/ttySAC0 nuttx.bin 
[...]
open a new shell and type:
echo 0 /sys/bus/platform/devices/gta02-pm-gsm.0/power_on
echo 1 /sys/bus/platform/devices/gta02-pm-gsm.0/power_on
Then on the first shell you see:
Preparing block 63, block checksum is 0xec 
handle_write_block(): 1024 bytes (1024/1024)
handle_write_block(): Block 63 finished
Received block ack from phone
Preparing the last block, filling 616 bytes, block checksum is 0x75 
handle_write_block(): 1024 bytes (1024/1024)
handle_write_block(): Block 64 finished
Finished, sent 64 blocks in total
Received block ack from phone
Sending checksum: 0x42 
Checksum on phone side matches, let's branch to your code
Branching to 0x0082
Received branch ack, your code is running now!

NuttShell (NSH)

then with a python script you can interact with the shell:
root@om-gta02:~# ./loadwriter.py 
help
which produces:
nsh help
NSH command forms:
  [nice [-d niceness]] cmd [ file| file] []
OR
  if cmd
  then
[sequence of cmd]
  else
[sequence of cmd]
  fi
Where cmd is one of:
  [ expression ]
  ?
  cat path [path [path ...]]
  cp source-path dest-path
  dd if=infile of=outfile [bs=sectsize] [count=sectors] 
[skip=sectors]
  echo [string [string...]]
  exec hex-address
  exit
  free
  help
  kill -signal pid
  losetup [-d dev-path] | [[-o offset] [-r] dev-path file-path]
  ls [-lRs] dir-path
  mb hex-address[=hex-value][ hex-byte-count]
  mkfifo path
  mh hex-address[=hex-value][ hex-byte-count]
  mw hex-address[=hex-value][ hex-byte-count]
  ps
  sh script-path
  sleep sec
  test expression
  usleep usec
  xd hex-address byte-count

Builtin Apps:

Alternatively you can run a loader, a hello world, a rss firmware, a 
layer1(with layer23 running on the samsung SOC) firmware etc

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Re: what to with 02 when upgrading to 04? was: Re: How to bring forward the community?

2012-03-04 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
However, my work on building a Totally Illegal Phone
That points nowhere.
I think you should instead try to go the legal way, 
so you can't be attacked in court,
because it's way too easy to attack you if you do something illegal.
Theses companies have a lot of lawyers and spend a lot on it.

The way to go is to improve nuttx port on calypso phones.
it's not that complicated.
Now it runs on the calypso of the freerunner(and on other phones too).

so please instead of attacking the openmoko people which points nowhere( they 
won't give you the source, they could have given it to you already if they 
wished but they didn't. so I guess they don't want to and will never give you 
theses sources), do something productive and join us in making osmocom-bb 
usable(by improving the nuttx port on calypso and then porting osmocom-bb on 
top of it).

so instead of waisting time on useless things, please join us.

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Re: Looking for a GPS only distribution for Freerunner

2012-02-14 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
So, I'm looking for someone already working on a project like this:
selecting and configuring the right tools for converting a FreeRunner
in a raw in-car GPS.
Why not making a GPS-only image, for instance in the SHR distribution.
it's just a mather of selecting the right packages to put in the images and 
waiting(a very very long time) for it to compile.

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Re: [Gta04-owner] QtMoko v38 for GTA04 with suspend and GSM calls

2012-01-31 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
hi, 
how did you get suspend working reliabily?
personally I've that:
[  406.115966] platform l3_main.0: LATE power domain suspend
   
[  406.121612] platform iva.0: LATE power domain suspend
   
[  406.126892] platform mpu.0: LATE power domain suspend
   
[  406.132171] omap_l3_smx omap_l3_smx.0: LATE power domain suspend 
   
[  406.138458] reg-dummy reg-dummy: LATE suspend
   
[  406.143035] PM: late suspend of devices complete after 682.739 msecs 
   
[  406.149688] Checking wakeup interrupts   
   
[  406.876373] Successfully put all powerdomains to target state
   
[  406.882507] reg-dummy reg-dummy: EARLY resume
   
[  406.887115] omap_l3_smx omap_l3_smx.0: EARLY power domain resume 
   
[  406.893402] platform mpu.0: EARLY power domain resume

[  406.898681] platform iva.0: EARLY power domain resume
   
[  406.903961] platform l3_main.0: EARLY power domain resume  

Should the userspace suspend/resume work in a way that is similar to 
android(but in userspace):
The display would be powered off etc and the phone would try to suspend all 
the time and would fully resume when he get a good reason to do so(like a 
phone call or an user pressing the resume button).

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Re: [Gta04-owner] [FOSDEM] Third call for sessions for the FOSDEM cross-distribution miniconference

2011-12-23 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
and the other one describing the state of the ports.
I guess I'll have to be part of the talk since I'm the one that knows all the 
ports,
But that doesn't necessarly means that I would be the only one involved in 
that, I think we should involve all the people doing ports.

By the way, what about also doing a talk on how to port a new device to 
FSO+SHR?

Denis.

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Replicant for GTA04? (Was WebOS for GTA04?)

2011-12-18 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
After HP announced to open source WebOS I wonder
what we need to get it onto a GTA04 device?

And is there already a clear picture how completely
the source will be opened? Under which licence?
And which limitations? Which timeframe?

Questions over questions... Let's discuss answers...
Why not porting Replicant to it too?

Replicant is a fully free android version:
 * The non-free low level libraries are replaced by free equivalents
 * The market is replaced by FDroid

When I was involved in it we freed some devices like the htc dream and the 
nexus one but we then realized that the devices themselves were the problem:
The modem in theses device had too much power(it controlled the sound card, 
the GPS and could read/write on RAM of the main CPU).

So then the current main developer ported the nexus S to it which is way 
better:
* The audio codec is attached to the main CPU
* the GPS is attached to the main CPU
* The modem can't read/write the RAM of the main CPU and cannot read/write the 
NAND either
however it suffer from a proprietary and partially signed bootloader.

The GTA04 has none of theses freedom problems...

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Re: [OT] HP contributes webOS software to the open source community

2011-12-12 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
For me SHR or QTMoko should takes the card metaphor idea. It is really THE
thing for me + the gesture handling, and both can be taken.

I personally would love to be able to adapt these in Enlightenment.

It's already done in elfe but requires a 24 or 32bit framebuffer.
*)enable elfe and disable illume-home
*)enable compositing
*)bind the key for switching to the card mode
*)press that key

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Re: GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-12-02 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
What is the status of the GTA04 graphics chip implementation. I have 
done a lot of work on the GTA02 with my graphics based apps, and the 
main issue for me is the very poor graphics performance with the chip in 
use on that platform. I run the apps over the USB link to any PC using 
X, and the performance of the app is quite satisfactory. On the GTA02 
screen itself, its very poor to the extent that its not useful.

Is the new board using the same graphics interface, or can the new board 
do some reasonable level of smooth display and animation?
First xf86-video-omapfb has XV acceleration,
Then it seem that the display depth is 32bit, which permits software 
compositing in enlightenment.

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Re: [SHR] distro upgrade

2011-11-23 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
Because my problem is that my lock button is broken. So, to reflash, I 
have to open the phone and manually make contact, which is quite 
difficult for a clumsy man.
why not booting on microsd and then flashing from there?

Denis.

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Re: GTA02 fails to charge

2011-10-02 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Thu, 2011-09-29 at 19:52 -0400, Brian wrote:
 On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 16:50:33 -0500
 Cristian Gómez cristianp...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I have a doubt about this because my FreeRunner only lasts 1 day
  charged and I want to use it more now, I read this thread and like
  Ivan, the first thing that comes to my mind is: new battery, do you
  know what models of batteries works fine with FreeRunner (let's say
  Nokia's 1100 or so)??
  
  Thanks in advance
 
  
 You can use some of the common Nokia batteries with caveats.
 Details can be found here:
 
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Battery_Questions_and_Answers#Hardware_capabilities
 
 You'll need to use the dumb battery kernel module as well. Instructions
 for that are on the same page. I've used BL-6C/5C/4C Nokia batteries
 without problems but as the wiki suggests don't trust the capacity
 when it starts getting low.
I've tried it, and on SHR it works out of the box, however only the
kernel supports charging the battery, not the bootloader, so I need the
original battery for flashing it trough the NOR uboot.

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Re: phone extraction device

2011-10-02 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Sun, 2011-10-02 at 04:12 +0200, Rashid wrote:
 You may have heard about the Cellebrite cell phone extraction device
 (UFED) in the news lately. It gives law enforcement officials the
 ability to access all the information on your cell phone within a few
 short minutes.
 
 http://translogic.aolautos.com/2011/04/29/police-device-used-to-steal-your-cell-phone-data-during-traffic/
 
 Does it work at free runners too? (Well a debug board could probably do
 it but hey).
I guess no one got one to test...

PS: I wonder what's the relation between rooting a phone and that
device(does the device need to root the phone to gather certain
informations?).

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Re: Liberated Calypso docs found

2011-09-28 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
 1. Acting on the authority of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the
Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and the decrees of V. I. Lenin,
declare TI's copyright on the ware to be null and void in the USSR
jurisdiction
Not a good idea, see http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/pirate-party.html

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Re: Liberated Calypso docs found

2011-09-28 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 18:23 +, Michael Sokolov wrote:
 Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought OsmocomBB still runs GSM
 layers 2 and 3 on the external host, not on the Calypso itself, right?
 And no in-call handover yet, no SMS yet, probably nothing even close
 to
 deep sleep mode yet...  I would love to be proven wrong on this
 though. 
 * there was an abandoned port of nuttx, a microcontroller OS(better
call it executive environment). if you want a drop-in replacement it may
be the way to go, you would also need to write an AT interpreter...
 * you could try to cross compile it for running it on the ARM samsung
SOC...(did you try already to make a call with it? (you would need to
activate the transmit feature for that(activating that breaks the law
since you would need regulatory aproval, and it lacks it, consult a
lawyer for more information...), but since you don't care about the
law)

Personally I think I'll go the legal way, with the GSM test license and
the USRP, but I'm not sure it's really needed in order to get nuttx
running on it, and I've not decided yet if I'll do it(since SHR needs
some love too).
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Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Boot speed comparison

2011-09-21 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
 BTW: David has reported that the original QtMoko rootfs image does boot and 
 allows to
 do some useful things on the GTA04. So it does not appear difficult to adapt 
 a real and full
 QtMoko (or SHR or hackable:1 or ...) release for the GTA04.
I wrote a porting guide for SHR(we also have one for android phones
specificities...)
it's here:
http://www.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Device%20Porting%20Guide

So everyone is welcome to port SHR to it and to improve the guide(it's
rather minimalist right now)

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Re: Writing my own Free Plain Phone sw distro for GTA02

2011-09-18 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
 In order words, the phone functionality I am after is what people would
 call a dumb phone, or I prefer to call it a Plain Phone to use a more
 neutral / non-derogatory term.
feature phone is also non-derogatory and means exacty the same thing
 Learning motivation: that's the biggest one for me.  I am a knowledge
 freak.  I want to know, know, know.
check out the wiki, there is explanation on how the hardware works
there...
 
 I realize that I will unfortunately have to treat the Calypso GSM block
 as a black box.  If I had a spare million dollars laying around, I could
 probably find an ex-Openmoko-Inc employee whom I could bribe for an
 illegal copy of the 3 missing schematic sheets and of whatever mix of
 partial source and linkable binary/object modules I'm guessing they must
 have had for the Calypso firmware: still not stellar, but better than
 what the community currently possesses, which is a block diagram on
 schematic page 14 and a fully-built FW image.  But I don't have a spare
 $1M laying around, so that is probably not an option. :-(
learn about osmcombb, however it's not a drop-in replacement as it lacks:
*an AT command interpreter part(however they have an abandoned nuttx
port)
*any kind of certification needed for connecting to carrier networks
 But even with the GSM modem being a black box sequestered behind a serial
 port,
still that's not so bad, the GSM modem doesn't control the CODEC(the
sound card) nor the GPS.

 As a more concrete example, I don't want my UI to use either GTK or Qt,
 and in fact I don't want any pre-existing UI code period: I want to
 design and implement my own UI 100% myself.  My UI design will be rather
 monolithic, centering around Plain Phone functionality: making and
 receiving plain old voice calls on the GSM network, receiving, replying
 to and composing SMS, managing contacts, and that's about it.  (*No*
 apps or the like.)  I will implement my Plain Phone UI in plain C
 using just libX11, no GTK or Qt, because that's my programming comfort
 zone.
too bad because there was already a feature-phone distro called aurora,
but its GUI is in QT(using the framebuffer), but yet very basic.
 I also don't like dbus: too modern for my taste.  Hence I will need to
 implement my own version of gsmd that doesn't depend on dbus or any
 other infrastructural backbone of a modern Linux distro.
too bad that rules out freesmartphone, which is a great hardware
abstraction layer. if you would use freesmartphone you could have
written the GUI quickely enough to make it a reality.
 1. Learn the process for loading new code images into the phone, build a
very basic rootfs image (using the techniques and principles from my
HEClinux-am3517 project) that does nothing other than allow an ssh
root login over the USB port, load it, get it to boot (debug board
with serial console bring-out for the win!) and get the USB login
to work.  Try doing it with the battery removed (USB power only) if
possible.
just read the wiki for that.
 2. Write the first inklings of the battery charger daemon: minimal power
management code to enable battery charging and control the USB
current draw limiter.  Charge the battery and see it boot w/o USB
power.
battery charging is done in the kernel.
 3. Write the first minimal gsmd.  Have it save incoming SMS in an
airlog file with no UI.  Try placing an outbound call or sending
an SMS from the command line (from the shell accessed via USB port
login session).
 4. Write the bottom layer of my own UI, roughly taking the place of the
X11 window manager.  Have the userland display *something* on the LCD.
why not using framebuffer directly?

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Re: osmocombb?

2011-08-26 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Friday, August 26, 2011 02:42:33 pm Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
 Benjamin Deering ben_deer...@swissmail.org writes:
  Has anyone tried this open source calypso firmware on their freerunner
  yet? http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/
 
 Not many of us have our own base station yet and afaik it is not legal
 to use osmocombb in a public network.
Also, it's not a drop-in replacement currently.
layer23 runs on a computer(be it your laptop or the samsung SOC of the 
freerunner...) and it doesn't have an AT interpreter(instead it's an 
interactive command line interface).

altough they have a port of an RTOS named nuttx for the calypso, however no 
one are working on it anymore...so maybe someone should continue that work...

Note that I didn't try it yet(I'm will work to get the money to buy an USRP + 
A test license to try it )

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Re: GTA04 hardware suggestion and discussions : 802.11n dual-band+Bluetooth+FM transceiver (Broadcom BCM4329)

2011-02-09 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
Bcm4329. Driver has some issues...dichiara as :
*Androidi specific driver
*No cfg80211
*can have wext...but no standard scanning

Denis
Sentire from a mobile device

Glenn glenn.mh...@gmail.com ha scritto:

Another hardware suggestion for GTA04Ax: This chip could be a candidate for 
dual-band wi-fi (2,4 and 5,4GHz), Bluetooth and FM transceiver: Broadcom 
BCM4329: 
http://www.broadcom.com/products/Bluetooth/Bluetooth-RF-Silicon-and-Software-Solutions/BCM4329
 Quote: ... The BCM4329 also utilizes advanced design techniques and process 
technologies to reduce active and idle power consumption and extend battery 
life. ... # Broadcom's most integrated 65 nm single-chip combo device with 
single-band (2.4 GHz) 802.11b/g/n or dual-band (2.4 GHz and 5 GHz) 
802.11a/b/g/n, plus Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR and FM receiver and transmitter 
features ... # Full featured, on-chip Power Management Unit supporting direct 
battery (2.3V to 5.5V) connection ... Broadcom - VoIP Android Tablet Support: 
http://www.thesearethedroids.com/2010/02/09/broadcom-voip-android-tablet-support/
 Quote: ... As part of the Mobile World Congress demonstrations next week, 
Broadcom is also showcasing Android support across a range of
other solutions including: ... Multi-chip Android support in a consumer 
multimedia tablet device based on the BCM11211 VoIP processor and leverages the 
BCM1181 for multimedia processing, the BCM4329 for Bluetooth and Wi-Fi, and the 
BCM4750 for GPS. ... Search: 
http://www.google.dk/search?q=linux+BCM4329+driver 
http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-wireless/msg43910.html Quote: ... In case 
you haven't seen this yet, Broadcom has an open (!) driver on the Android git 
tree with support for SDIO/SPI for bcm4329. 
http://tinyurl.com/broadcom-android-bcm4329 [ 
http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/system/wlan/broadcom.git;a=tree ] The 
commit log entry dated 2009-10-29 states: Linux WLAN driver for BCM4329 - 
Low-Power 802.11n with Bluetooth(R) 2.1+ EDR and FM (Tx and Rx) ... 
http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-wireless/msg43951.html Quote: ... While 
this driver is currently used for Android, there is nothing that precludes its 
use on non-Android flavors of Linux. ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699135 Quote: ... Looking 
through the teardown from iFixit.com, the EVO has the same Wifi/Bluetooth chip 
as the Nexus 1 and Droid Incredible: BCM4329 ... Froyo has it ... BCM4329: 
http://theiphonewiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=BCM4329 Quote: ... This is the 
radio chip that is being used in the iPod touch 3G, iPad, iPhone 4, iPod touch 
4G, and Apple TV 2G. ... Network World, 09/11/2009, 11n Wi-Fi chip discovered 
in new iPod Touch: 
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/091109-ipod-touch-broadcom.html Citat: 
... The new Apple iPod Touch uses a Wi-Fi chip that can support the 
just-approved high-throughput 802.11n standard, though Apple apparently has not 
switched on the cranked-up wireless link. The single chip combines 802.11n with 
802.11abg, Bluetooth, and FM radio. It runs in both the 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz 
bands. Full details are in the company's data sheet for the chip. ... Maybe 
there is already an Ipod Touch 11n wi-fi driver:
http://www.rockbox.org/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockbox What is Rockbox? 
Why should I use it?: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/WhyRockbox Freemyipod: 
http://www.freemyipod.org/ December 9, 2008 Broadcom introduces combo 802.11n 
chip: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-10119038-94.html - 
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f10/wifi-support-need-wpa2-7116/index2.html 
Quote: ... Android doesn't support WPA2 Enterprise. You need wifihelper to TRY 
if it works. I have the same issue, my university uses WPA2 enterprise... no 
luck connecting... ... Download wifi Helper from the Android Market by Fan 
Zhang. Use it to setup your wpa_supplicants file; engineering mode requires the 
Pro version (at 0.99 USD, it's worth it...) If you experience problems scanning 
for networks (this happened to me upon first installation)... make sure you 
have set Allow Always when wifiHelper asks for root permissions while 
running, and double check your configuration by using Manage Configurations, 
and
re-enter if necessary after setting the Allow Always permissions. ... - 
BCM4329 test: April 21, 2010 iPad WiFi Woes - Myth or Reality?: 
http://www.padgadget.com/2010/04/21/ipad-wifi-woes-myth-or-reality/ Quote: ... 
To keep it simple, we mainly focused on signal quality, as well as the average 
download speed the devices could sustain. ... # iPad (WiFi-only model): iPhone 
OS 3.2, 16GB Flash, WiFi via Broadcom BCM4329XKUBG (basically a BCM4322AG with 
Bluetooth support, driver version unknown) ... Results Signal Strength Let's be 
clear, the iPad performed decently, but performance was not on par with the 
MacBook and the HP Tablet PC. First things first, range. It is obvious that the 
iPad's WiFi range is limited compared to the other devices, very likely due to 
the fact that the Wifi 

Re: GTA04 hardware suggestion and discussions : 802.11n dual-band+Bluetooth+FM transceiver (Broadcom BCM4329)

2011-02-07 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Sat, 2011-02-05 at 09:18 +0100, Glenn Moeller-Holst wrote:
 9th January 2011, Bcm4329 driver source code:
 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=906628
 Quote: ...
 I tried many ways, last modified module name, unexpectedly 
 successful, it is funny. 
I wouldn't go for an android driver,
That driver doesn't have cfg80211.
It has only WEXT, and WEXT scanning(iwlist eth0 scan) doesn't work
because the scanning method is non-standard(iwpriv)

It could be modified to support scanning, but then what if a stack like
SHR or FSO start depending on libnl for wifi?

I think other drivers like wl1271 are better, they should be more
standard as they are integrated in the linux kernel.
wl1271 even supports AP mode.

wl1271 also has a redistributable firmware now.
From Kconfig:

CONFIG_WL12XX:

This module adds support for wireless adapters based on TI wl1271 and
TI wl1273 chipsets. This module does *not* include support for wl1251.
For wl1251 support, use the separate homonymous driver instead.


Does the chip need to have android support too?

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Re: [Shr-Devel] some advertising

2011-01-15 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
 I did a video as well, showing my new dual-booting solution called Bootr:
 http://vimeo.com/18744450
 
 With Bootr you can switch between WebOS and SHR at bootup.
 Bootr lives here: https://github.com/slyon/bootr
I tried really hard to see this video,
I tried :
*viewing with gnash
*using some download website that were suspicious:
**some require java
**some wants you to install some toolbars
*using cclive
*using cclive from git(didn't compile)
*using greasemonkey(greasemonkey extension was unavailable due to
website issues)
*using grease monkey again(when it became available again) with
http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/56677
It displayed a bar but clicking on it shown a page with the following
written:
  Technical Difficulties
  Whoops! We are having some technical difficulties, please try again in
a minute. 

So is there a way to view that video without installing the non-free
flash player?

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Re: some advertising

2011-01-12 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 16:38 +0100, Sylvain Paré wrote:
 :)
 you are welcome for the .ogg! the cons is that I can't know how many
 personne did look the video as I only have a counter on vimeo.
 (only html code on my personnal page...)
count me as viewer of the ogg version.

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Re: gestures (on SHR)

2011-01-07 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
I can't seem to get past the initial make the gesture after selecting a 
model and pressing the train button. 
I've the same issue.
 Should the frontend still function as described in the wiki?
 I started looking into the underlying scripts, but haven't found the start 
 or end yet.
 The library is still under heavy construction all the time...
???
The program for the gestures is named accelges and it's rather the
contrary,and it seem that that program is not mained anymore.

It would be nice to have it working again.

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Re: [e-users] Someone is trying to patent Quickwriting

2010-11-21 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Sun, 2010-11-21 at 16:24 +0100, Daniele Ricci wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 15:41, Dave Andreoli d...@gurumeditation.it wrote:
  Yeah , ABSOLUTELY!! What can we do to stop this patent? 8pen
  is EXACTLY the same as quikwriting. what can we do? are you
  involved in the quikwriting project? did you contact them?
 
  DaveMDS
 
 
 I contacted the 8pen company: just one reply and that's it. They're
 not responding any more. Probably they think they're in a bad
 position.
 I also sent a mail to prof. Perlin, the quickwriting creator, no reply.
 
 What about FSF?
What about SFLC?

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Re: Another so suitable for freeruner?

2010-11-09 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 20:45 +0100, David Lanzendörfer wrote:
 I'm sure GNUtoo will be pleased to do this too, as soon
 as he got a new OpenMoko. 
I've already one,
I do not need 2 freerunner for this project.
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Re: [GTA04] When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing

2010-10-30 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
 Sean has given us a very important learning: we should use catalog components 
 (e.g. DigiKey,
 Farnell, Mouser, RS-Components) as good as possible. Unfortunately they don't 
 have a
 smartphone case.
Maybe you can find one here:
http://www.gizmoforyou.net/site/shop/gizmos/computing/flow/flow-g1-5.html

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Re: Openmoko on Wikipedia

2010-10-29 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 10:27 +0200, Eric Ehlers wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I added a new section (2.5) to the Openmoko page on wikipedia in an  
 attempt to reflect the latest status of the project:
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openmoko
I also think that the history is a bit short, but I don't know enough to
complete it.
For instance, I think it was the first commercial free phone. but I
don't know when exactly the gta01 and gta02 were commercialized.
I also wonder if it's the first commercial phone(or not) that permitted
the installation of native applications(I wonder if the app store for
the iphone came before or after the openmoko)
It would be nice to have more info, because else it would be
forgetten...

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Re: Freerunner - small and fast distribution only for GPS

2010-08-30 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 16:03 +0200, Carsten Gerlach wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Am Samstag 28 August 2010 schrieb Timo Juhani Lindfors:
  I don't really see the point in having a yet another
  distribution. Just take an existing distribution and configure it to
  fit this task. Optionally contribute back some new packages.
  
  Configuring a system for GPS-only use is an interesting challenge.
  
  1) The filesystem probably should be read-only so that you can turn
  the power off at any time, right?
  
  2) The only volatile part of the filesystem would then be the gps
  tracks?
 
 Yes of course, you are right, maybe there is no need for a new distro, a 
 modification of a existing one can work. But when we come to your mentioned 
 read-only filesystem, then I dont't know if it is possible only by 
 configuring? And what is with all the drivers for wifi, USB, GSM and so on 
 which are not needed? Can we do this without compiling a new kernel?
 
 Ok, my first test would be to take an existing distro and remove all 
 packages, 
 which I don't need. Then we will see...
 
 What would be a good starting distro? I would take SHR, but maybe another 
 would be better?
 
 Greetings, Carsten
maybe use SHR as distro or derive from it and make a custom and new
image.

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Re: Freerunner - small and fast distribution only for GPS

2010-08-29 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
 Hi,

 Am Samstag 28 August 2010 schrieb Timo Juhani Lindfors:
 I don't really see the point in having a yet another
 distribution. Just take an existing distribution and configure it to
 fit this task. Optionally contribute back some new packages.

 Configuring a system for GPS-only use is an interesting challenge.

 1) The filesystem probably should be read-only so that you can turn
 the power off at any time, right?

 2) The only volatile part of the filesystem would then be the gps
 tracks?

 Yes of course, you are right, maybe there is no need for a new distro, a
 modification of a existing one can work. But when we come to your
 mentioned
 read-only filesystem, then I dont't know if it is possible only by
 configuring? And what is with all the drivers for wifi, USB, GSM and so on
 which are not needed? Can we do this without compiling a new kernel?

 Ok, my first test would be to take an existing distro and remove all
 packages,
 which I don't need. Then we will see...

 What would be a good starting distro? I would take SHR, but maybe another
 would be better?
Maybe:
*take SHR or derives from it in openembedded,
*create a new lighter image.


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Re: WikiReader sales and the future of Openmoko

2010-08-22 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
 And if it frees up
 developer resources to doing just hardware and kernel support by not
 doing a huge effort like OE-based Om2007.2/Om2008/Om2009 on the
 software distribution, I'm all for it.
hmmm.
on htcdream, having something half-usable was so hard...
for instance:
No alsa driver shipped with the android kernel.
Thanks to codeaurora/qualcomm for writing an alsa driver...but I spent
countless hours trying to debug it(with printks)...
At the end it worked but it was far from easy.
wifi(we spent a long time looking at kernel config),GPS(I was only a
tester/dumper),real-suspend(the offending commit was found by alain2210
after a very long git bisect) etc
each thing to make work was hard...(but in another hand I'm a kernel newbie)

Thanks to leviathan,mickeyl,alain2210,phh,Thingol etc... for the help!!!
now it's a lot more usable, and I look forward for:
*GPS integration in FSO(should be done very soon)
*fix the remaining buffer underruns in alsa(fix avaliable but I wasn't
able to make it work)
*keyboard mapping
*wifi PSM
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