Re: Multi-touch: Many questions to one desire....
That On Tue, 2008-03-04 at 18:03 -0700, Shawn Rutledge wrote: They have no hope of preventing multi-touch itself from becoming the accepted mainstream, and then resistive touchscreens are probably going to be seen as obsolete. That is assuming that mainstream has an interesting in the technology aside from Oh cool. As fair as I have seen it, that is not the case. That doesn't mean that we can't look into it, it just means that standardization of multi-touch panels are years away. On Tue, 2008-03-04 at 16:42 +0100, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: I have thought a bit about multitouch and its possible usecases and the longer I think about it the less exciting I find it on a mobile phone. I will admit that most implementation of these panels are not completely thought through. iPhone/iPod Touch itself happens to waist many of it's functions. The technology per se is great and I'm sure it will allow for great innovation among UI's on large monitors, tablets, and even desks. There is no denying that, desks have been the most interesting. However, on small screen systems such as the Neo (or even the iPhone) -- what do you want to do with it? The ubiquitous zooming and rotating examples are not convincing me at all. With some clever state logic you can zoom and rotate very efficient on unitouch systems. So... where are those usecases that apply to a phone? Well, more to talk about. If anything, a few case studies over uses and possibilities are worth exploring. If is gets big enough, the wiki should be employed on keeping the data... That is assume that the MT path is the one that is chosen. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MiniOne
On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 09:57 +0100, Mario Wewer wrote: Hello community, does anyone of you already have a Meizu MiniOne Phone? No, still being developed. So - do you think it could be possible to run OpenMoko on this phone?! * ARM11 533MHZ Prozessor * 128MB DDR SDRAM Cache * EDGE, GSM und WCDMA * Windows Mobile 6.0 Betriebssystem * Video Decoder CODEC * 3,32″ TFT, VGA (720 x 480), 16 Millionen Farben Touchscreen * 3 Megapixel Kamera sowie 0,3 Megapixel VGA Kamera für Konferenzen (Autofocus, kein Blitz) * Bluetooth (mit GPS Zugang) , Line Out mit DMB Support, Wi-Fi mit Wireless Karte * 1600mAH Akku * Möglichkeit von 720 x 480 AVI, MPEG4, WMV Videos mit 30ftps In theory, it is possible. But I honestly don't see the drive to port Moko to the MiniOne, but what can be done. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Multi-touch: Many questions to one desire....
Hi, tis me again. A little bit of forward thinking here. When I first came to OpenMoko it was a mid the torrent of the iPhone hype. I will admit that I was dissolution with the possibility that the multi-touch interface was an easy addition to OpenMoko. With some time to think and study the availability of the technology, I soon realized that my thinking on the matter was quite naive. Maybe I still am naive on the matter, but considering alot of the hard work to get GTA02 off the ground and running, I was thinking that if OpenMoko was considering the possibility of a multi-touch interface seriously maybe it is something that could be found on the next device afterwards (be it the GTA03 or something later). If that is the case, then such an input device will not appear out of thin air. At this point and time what would be realistic, would Openmoko Inc. form a partnership with supplier of the technology, does FIC Group happen to have something inhouse that could be utilized? What are the legal implications and potholes? Etc. Truth is that I love the concept behind the Openmoko phone. A phone that 'I' truly control, not my provider, not the manufacturer (not completely, anyway). A phone that grants me, 'freedom'. If anything, considering what is out there, I would like to more open-idea to establishing that sense of freedom so I only offer this chance to brain storm what else we can do to provide that. Here is hoping that I have not let the genie out of the bottle. Duv P.S.: I apologize in advance for the possibility of this discussion degrading into a flame-fest, that is not my intention. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Community update: Regarding Neo FreeRunner pre-orders
I am a little curious to the channels that you do have access to. Being in canada, I am also curious as to if you plan to distribute the FreeRunner in Canada. On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 10:56 -0800, Michael Shiloh wrote: Hello, A number of times you have asked about pre-orders. Here is the official word from our VP of Marketing: Over the next couple of months you will see the following 3 announcements: 1. When the production hardware is solid and signed off, we will announce pricing and availability. That is, we will announce the expected price and the expected date on which the web store will open. 2. When the first production run is complete, we will announce that. 3. When the phones reach the distribution centers in Europe and USA, we will open the web store and begin taking orders. We are actively looking at pre-orders, but as discussed in the past there are a number of very difficult complications in taking pre-orders. We think the best solution is to build 10 times as many phones as we did the last time, so that pre-orders will not be necessary. As many of you know, ramping up a factory for production is not instantaneous. We plan to do a number of pre-production runs to iron out manufacturing issues and to assure high yield. These pre-production runs will occur before the official production run, so that when we make announcements 2 and 3 above we will be highly confident in our ability to manufacture and deliver a very large number of handsets. Regards, Michael ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
And so with....
Well first off, hi... I am new here but have been observing for a long while. I will say that my interest for this phone is rather big. And now that my L7 is busted, viable. And on to business... it's a rather small thought that I have been humouring but I was wondering if any consideration has been made to what happens after the GTA02 drops. I assume that there is another phone planed, but as to what it maybe... that is cloud thinking at the moment. So in short, what happens after the GTA02? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: And so with....
Well that is the thing, the wishlist is much like a bulletin board... a lot of ideas that are in parts. The thing about a phone, in my mind anyway, is that it tends to be a singular construct of thought. If FIC is taking information that drops into the wishlist and comes up with a singular construct for a phone, then that would be great. But I will be honest that I think that FIC will have it's own ideas for a another Neo-based phone... All I say is that maybe... as a community, we could come up with that singular construct of what is next. Maybe FIC/Openmoko will take it, maybe not. But it's better than watching the sands to shift. Duv. On Fri, 2008-01-25 at 12:17 -0800, Michael Shiloh wrote: Although cloud thinking is encouraged as a way to get more ideas. I'm pretty sure there is a wiki page (something like wishlist) for such ideas. I for one love seeing the imagination and creativity of this community, and the wishlist is one such demonstration. Further, I will very strongly encourage OpenMoko to look at this wishlist whenever we discuss plans for the future, so this list really is a way to reach the eyes of those who will be making those decisions. I invite you to add your ideas, whether conservative or wacky. Michael ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
