Re: GTA02 act as gps mouse?
Am 06.03.2013 14:21, schrieb Ed Kapitein: On Wed, 2013-03-06 at 13:42 +0100, Fox Mulder wrote: Am 05.03.2013 18:43, schrieb Fox Mulder: Am 05.03.2013 15:08, schrieb Neil Jerram: Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net writes: Hi, is it possible to use my gta02 as a gps mouse for another computer? I got a cheap tablet without integrated gps and thought it would be great, if i could use my gta02 as an external gps receiver and pair it over bluetooth with my tablet. But therefor i need some special program or script which i have to run on my gta02 that it acts as a standard bluetooth gps mouse. So does anybody know a way to do this? :) Do you mean this? http://www.handheldshell.com/software/bluetooth.php I was looking exactly for this kind of script. :) I will try it at the weekend and hopefully i get it working without too much trouble. Thanks for the link. I couldn't wait and so i tried it today. I installed latest SHR 2012.7 and revived my GTA02 for this test. :) But the first problem came up with bluetooth pairing because the mentioned simple-agent Python script in the wiki relies on some modules SHR doesn't have. It uses from gi.repository import GObject which i could solve when renaming it to import gobject (doesn't know if that works). But than it also uses import bluezutils which i can't find anywhere in the SHR repositories. So before i can test the BtGPS script i have to solve the problem of pairing my devices. The wiki states there are some other scripts for pairing but i can't find any. So does anybody know a way how to pair my GTA02 with another device with some script or program for SHR? Ciao, Rainer Hi Rainer, I use bluetooth without pairing. I have a laptop and a FR. On the laptop i do: rfcomm listen 1 2 And on the FR i do BLUEMAC=00:02:72:14:0F:ED rfcomm connect 1 ${BLUEMAC} And wait a while for /dev/rfcomm1 to come up. Then i run on the laptop: /usr/sbin/pppd nodetach /dev/rfcomm1 call bluerunner where /etc/ppp/peers/bluerunner contains the ip address etc ( man pppd ) You can then start gpsd on the freerunner and use it as a networked gpsd from the laptop. I hope this setup will work for you too. ( i wrote a script around the commands, but this is basically how it works) The lack of pairing also means a lack of encryption, you have to judge the impact of that yourself. Thanks for these instructions. But the problem is that i want to pair the freerunner with my tablet where i have no access to a console. So i do need a script or program which could pair with standard bluetooth devices. I could also install debian or qtmoko on the freerunner if they are more suited for this task. So is there any other way of pairing with other devices? :) Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 act as gps mouse?
Am 05.03.2013 18:43, schrieb Fox Mulder: Am 05.03.2013 15:08, schrieb Neil Jerram: Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net writes: Hi, is it possible to use my gta02 as a gps mouse for another computer? I got a cheap tablet without integrated gps and thought it would be great, if i could use my gta02 as an external gps receiver and pair it over bluetooth with my tablet. But therefor i need some special program or script which i have to run on my gta02 that it acts as a standard bluetooth gps mouse. So does anybody know a way to do this? :) Do you mean this? http://www.handheldshell.com/software/bluetooth.php I was looking exactly for this kind of script. :) I will try it at the weekend and hopefully i get it working without too much trouble. Thanks for the link. I couldn't wait and so i tried it today. I installed latest SHR 2012.7 and revived my GTA02 for this test. :) But the first problem came up with bluetooth pairing because the mentioned simple-agent Python script in the wiki relies on some modules SHR doesn't have. It uses from gi.repository import GObject which i could solve when renaming it to import gobject (doesn't know if that works). But than it also uses import bluezutils which i can't find anywhere in the SHR repositories. So before i can test the BtGPS script i have to solve the problem of pairing my devices. The wiki states there are some other scripts for pairing but i can't find any. So does anybody know a way how to pair my GTA02 with another device with some script or program for SHR? Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GTA02 act as gps mouse?
Hi, is it possible to use my gta02 as a gps mouse for another computer? I got a cheap tablet without integrated gps and thought it would be great, if i could use my gta02 as an external gps receiver and pair it over bluetooth with my tablet. But therefor i need some special program or script which i have to run on my gta02 that it acts as a standard bluetooth gps mouse. So does anybody know a way to do this? :) Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 act as gps mouse?
Am 05.03.2013 15:08, schrieb Neil Jerram: Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net writes: Hi, is it possible to use my gta02 as a gps mouse for another computer? I got a cheap tablet without integrated gps and thought it would be great, if i could use my gta02 as an external gps receiver and pair it over bluetooth with my tablet. But therefor i need some special program or script which i have to run on my gta02 that it acts as a standard bluetooth gps mouse. So does anybody know a way to do this? :) Do you mean this? http://www.handheldshell.com/software/bluetooth.php I was looking exactly for this kind of script. :) I will try it at the weekend and hopefully i get it working without too much trouble. Thanks for the link. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: newer navit on qtmoko (shr?)
Hi, at [1] are precompiled binaries for gta02 of latest svn version from navit. They worked on debian and shr the last time i tried them. Ciao, Rainer [1] http://download.navit-project.org/navit/openmoko/svn/ Am 23.12.2012 10:04, schrieb robin: hi as navit is available for both the debian-squeeze and qtmoko directly but only in rather old versions I was wondering how much expertise it takes to build newer packages of one/both of them. So if it was not too complex I would like to pick it up an publish newer version which I will then try to build on a server. So if you have any script/idea on how to do so, please let me know and I can try (eventually I will have a GTA02 and a GTA04 at home, so I would like to build them for both if it makes a difference (eg armhf)). best regards robin ps: I am all but an expert building packages, so I might need a bit more detailed help. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04-Custom: EAGLE schematics and board file blueprint for developing expansion/adapter boards
Am 02.03.2012 10:42, schrieb Timo Juhani Lindfors: Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com writes: No, I would not conclude that. One just needs to develop a file import converter for any free CAD software, if it does not yet exist. Hmm, let me rephrase it then: The summary seems to be that if somebody wants to see the GTA04 schematics they have to use non-free software, at least for the initial conversion step, or develop an import plugin for EAGLE format. I read in a forum that it should be possible to import eagle 6.x files into the free designspark layout software. I didn't try it myself but this is maybe worth a bit more investigation. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04-Custom: EAGLE schematics and board file blueprint for developing expansion/adapter boards
Am 01.03.2012 22:07, schrieb Gilles Filippini: Gilles Filippini a écrit , Le 01/03/2012 22:04: The is a free light version of EAGLE in Debian. $ apt-cache show eagle Package: eagle Version: 5.12.0-1 [...] Description-en: Printed circuit board design tool Eagle includes a layout editor, schematic editor, and an autorouter. The following limitations apply to the EAGLE Light Edition: The usable board area is limited to 100 x 80 mm (4 x 3.2 inches). Only two signal layers can be used (Top and Bottom). The schematic editor can only create one sheet. . Use of eagle freeware is limited to non-profit or evaluation purposes. See /usr/share/doc/eagle/copyright for more information. Homepage: http://www.cadsoft.de [...] Oops. Missed that: Section: non-free/electronics You can just install latest eagle 6.1 (win, linux, mac) and use it with light license for free which limits to 100x80mm board size and 2 layers. This freeware version exists as long as i can remember for eagle. :) Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qi: use \r\n in serial console?
Am 23.06.2011 14:15, schrieb Timo Juhani Lindfors: Hi, if I use picocom -b 115200 /dev/ttyUSB0 to see the boot messages of Qi and kernel I see that the Qi lines are terminated with \n while Linux uses \r\n [1]. I don't know picocom but Linux normally uses \n while windows uses \r\n. So if qi only use \n it is corrrect for linux. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: pisi calendar sync over caldav?
Am 25.10.2010 12:28, schrieb David Lanzendoerfer: is it possible to sync a calendar application in shr-u with help of pisi to an internet calendar (not google) which uses the standard caldav protocol? Use the webdav option. But in the pisi doc it states that it uses ics files over webdav which is not the same as caldav extension to webdav AFAIK. I don't have any ics file when accessing my calendar over caldav. I only have an url like http://www.myserver.de/mycal with username and password. I can't find any calendar application in shr-u which could sync by itself to a caldav server so i thought pisi could do it. But i can't find any settings for this case. You can convert evolution (dates) and also opimd (contacts) into webdav calendar (caldav) and vise-versa. That sounds interesting. The default dates application in shr-u is opimd-dates and i can install dates from the repo which is pimlico-dates. Evolution is not available in shr-u and from the looks it is way to huge for the freerunner. And what has opimd contacts to do with a caldav calendar or do you mean opimd dates? :) Could you explain a bit more what you mean by convert? I would really like to have a calendar which could sync to caldav itself like the iphone (seen at a friend's phone). :) Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [GTA04] When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing
Am 16.09.2010 19:40, schrieb Gennady Kupava: Regarding memory we currently plan to use this memory chip: http://www.micron.com/products/ProductDetails.html?product=products/mcp/multichip_packages/MT29C4G48MAZAPAKQ-5+IT 2Gb @ 166MHz - nice! If i'm correct than it is 2Gbit and not 2Gbyte Ram. Therefor it is only 256MB Ram and additional 512MB NAND. But that's twice as much as the freerunner has. :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anyone with spare debug board in Czech republic?
Am 08.09.2010 22:35, schrieb Radek Polak: Hi, i'd like to buy debug board for Freerunner. Before i start to think about buying one in Germany, i'd like to ask if somebody from CZ can offer one? If you want to buy one in germany than buy it at www.pulster.de because it is for free if you order something else. I ordered a second gta02 battery and additional got a free debug board. :) Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2+4+2 timing seemed to disrupt access to the sdcard
Am 26.07.2010 11:15, schrieb Xavier Cremaschi: Le 26/07/2010 10:58, Helge Hafting a écrit : First, lots of WSODs. This required lots of suspending (or reboot) without seeing the screen. This is not always possible, so lots of battery removal. I think the power button is a standard ATX button, if you keep it pressed for few seconds (5 ?) it should power off your Freerunner :) Sadly this function doesn't work with the 2.6.32 anymore. Or at least for me it doesn't work since change from 2.6.29 to 2.6.32. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Missing UsbHost
Am 02.07.2010 16:05, schrieb Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann: With the new kernel the usb interface on your _host_ will be something different than with the old one... ethX changed. You mean that the host (pc and not gta02) will enumerate another name than ethX or just another number X when i attach my gta02? I'm right in the middle of the big upgrade to 2.6.32 so i have to wait until i can test it. :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Patch for libphone-ui [was: fails to call from contacts if phone # contains any non-number?]
Am 22.06.2010 20:57, schrieb Yaroslav Halchenko: Hi Everyone, Could you please overview and accept following patches (1 is non functional which I've sent to Klaus yesterday). patch should remove any symbol from the number before sending the query to initiate the call... I don't have chain ready to build it for phone, but built fine on desktop so should be fine? ;) Also I am not sure if location of phone # filtering is the best , and it would be great if similar would be adopted for matching numbers in the phone calls log book. I sent your patches to Tom Hacohen who seems to be responsible for this area. He hasn't subscribed this list so i will forward his answer here: Am 29.06.2010 20:23, schrieb Tom Hacohen: Mind doing me a favor? Please tell him thanks, but I have two comments: 1. He should send his shr patches to shr-devel. 2. His patch for filtering bad input is bad, as it should be done in libphone-utis and not in libphone-ui* We don't want UI filtering, but we want backend system filtering. The correct thing will be fixing libphone-utils, adding filter before sms, filter before call, etc functions and using them in FSO, not in the UI. Thanks in advance, will hopefully do it in the weekend. I added Tom in CC so maybe you want to contact him yourself. :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Missing feature
Am 24.06.2010 21:39, schrieb Fox Mulder: Good news. I contacted Marc Trevisan and he was willing to update his script to the new dbus methods, even that he doesn't use shr anymore. i'm thankfull for his effort and his newest version is available at [1]. So i think i can try the script again at the weekend. :) Ciao, Rainer [1] http://dev.3v1n0.net/gitweb/shr-notifier.git I tested the script and it now works partly again. :) It reminds me of missed calls/sms when the phone is awake every x seconds. Only the automatic wakeup function doesn't work for me. But i think it is only a minor problem because the script uses atd for wakeup and ffalarms also uses atd and it works there. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: opkg.org virus?
It seems that the virus problem got fixed. Or at least my scanner doesn't complain anymore when i visit opkg.org. :) Am 18.06.2010 08:35, schrieb Thomas HOCEDEZ: I asked him a couple of time to get access to the sources to restyle the site. (no fluid CSS, fixed tempalte ...). Bu I got no answer or for the best just a I'll see when I have time... But I think he never foud time ... I think I can found back the little work I did for the site (originally I wanted it to be readable on the moko install apps from it). AstHrO Le 18/06/2010 01:05, Martix a écrit : Did you tried to contact opkg.org site owner? http://www.opkg.org/contact.html I think somebody from FSO/SHR or OpenEmbedded/Angstrom team should ask original site owner for domain transfer, if he already abandoned opkg.org. This domain could serve to our community again.[1] [1] http://lists.shr-project.org/pipermail/shr-devel/2010-June/002742.html Regards, Martix 2010/6/17 Fox Mulderquakem...@gmx.net: Seems that the owner of the website (who is it?) is no more actively maintaining the site. This is sad because opkg.org was a good starting point to search for different applications. But for a longer time it seems that there is nothing new at all. :( Ciao, Rainer Am 17.06.2010 19:26, schrieb Jakob: there has also been another thread about it last month see http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-f1954 though not much happend On 6/17/10, Ed Kapiteine...@kapitein.org wrote: well, our company virus scanner is also complaining, so it seems a real virus: The page you've been trying to access was blocked. Reason: Virus Detected! The page or file you requested is infected with the following virus: Troj/JSRedir-BD. Kind regards, Ed On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 11:32 +0200, Fox Mulder wrote: Hi, since quite some time my virus scanner (avast) complains about a virus infection (JS:Illredir-AX[Tr]) when i try to surf to www.opkg.org. Can someone confirm this or is my virus scanner a bit mad? And if there is a virus then why didn't the owner of this site remove it? :) Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Missing feature
Good news. I contacted Marc Trevisan and he was willing to update his script to the new dbus methods, even that he doesn't use shr anymore. i'm thankfull for his effort and his newest version is available at [1]. So i think i can try the script again at the weekend. :) Ciao, Rainer [1] http://dev.3v1n0.net/gitweb/shr-notifier.git ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Missing feature
Am 21.06.2010 00:44, schrieb Marcin Ćwikła: 2010/6/20 Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net mailto:quakem...@gmx.net Hi, But there is one major thing i'm missing which has every other mobile phone. The possibility to see unanswered calls/sms without extra turning on the phone. When i missed a call and wasn't near the phone than i do not wakeup the phone only to see if i missed a call. Therefore i often responded to missed calls/sms quite late because i din't know i had one. :/ So i thought how this problem could be solved and had an idea but don't know if it is possible to implement. :) Here is sth for a good start. http://www.mail-archive.com/shr-de...@lists.shr-project.org/msg00116.html Without accelerometers, only Motorola bip. Thanks for the hint. I never knew that something like this existed. Maybe Marco posted it at the wrong mailinglist because no one answered to his mail. :( I think this script is going exact in the right direction. Only the 15 minutes wakeup as long as the missing call is not confirmed is not as effective as the accelerometer solution i have in mind. :) But i think his script is a very good basis for what i have in mind. If i would be a programmer i would try to modify his script but for now i think i will just give it a try as it is now. I hope it still works because it was written a year ago and many things have changed since than. I will post an update here if his script still works or not. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Missing feature
Am 21.06.2010 11:08, schrieb Fox Mulder: Am 21.06.2010 00:44, schrieb Marcin Ćwikła: 2010/6/20 Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net mailto:quakem...@gmx.net Hi, But there is one major thing i'm missing which has every other mobile phone. The possibility to see unanswered calls/sms without extra turning on the phone. When i missed a call and wasn't near the phone than i do not wakeup the phone only to see if i missed a call. Therefore i often responded to missed calls/sms quite late because i din't know i had one. :/ So i thought how this problem could be solved and had an idea but don't know if it is possible to implement. :) Here is sth for a good start. http://www.mail-archive.com/shr-de...@lists.shr-project.org/msg00116.html Without accelerometers, only Motorola bip. Thanks for the hint. I never knew that something like this existed. Maybe Marco posted it at the wrong mailinglist because no one answered to his mail. :( I think this script is going exact in the right direction. Only the 15 minutes wakeup as long as the missing call is not confirmed is not as effective as the accelerometer solution i have in mind. :) But i think his script is a very good basis for what i have in mind. If i would be a programmer i would try to modify his script but for now i think i will just give it a try as it is now. I hope it still works because it was written a year ago and many things have changed since than. I will post an update here if his script still works or not. I had to replace a few program paths which were no more correct. But then the first try was not so successfull as i hoped. It seems that the script tries to create a simple gui which fails with an AttributeError. /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py:242: DeprecationWarning: object.__init__() takes no parameters super(Connection, self).__init__(*args, **kwargs) Let's go on Traceback (most recent call last): File ./notifier, line 337, in module win.destroy = destroy AttributeError: 'elementary.c_elementary.Window' object has no attribute 'destroy' When i just remove the line 337 and run it i got another error: Traceback (most recent call last): File ./notifier, line 360, in module bt_calls.clicked = show_missed_calls AttributeError: 'elementary.c_elementary.Button' object has no attribute 'clicked' When i also remove the two lines for the clicked event the script seems to run. But when i call myself and hang up nothing happens. I don't know if nothing hapens because of the commented out gui lines or if the code doesn't work anymore in general. I see that there are quite some dbus calls and maybe the syntax for them also has changed. :/ When i interpret it right then the gui part only shows the missed calls/sms. So maybe the gui part isn't needed anymore because we can use opimd-notifier to show the missed calls/sms. But without the script's gui we need another way to confirm and deactivate the reminder. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Missing feature
Am 21.06.2010 12:14, schrieb Thomas Zimmermann: Am Montag 21 Juni 2010, 11:54:57 schrieb Fox Mulder: I had to replace a few program paths which were no more correct. But then the first try was not so successfull as i hoped. It seems that the script tries to create a simple gui which fails with an AttributeError. /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py:242: DeprecationWarning: object.__init__() takes no parameters super(Connection, self).__init__(*args, **kwargs) Let's go on Traceback (most recent call last): File ./notifier, line 337, in module win.destroy = destroy AttributeError: 'elementary.c_elementary.Window' object has no attribute 'destroy' When i just remove the line 337 and run it i got another error: Traceback (most recent call last): File ./notifier, line 360, in module bt_calls.clicked = show_missed_calls AttributeError: 'elementary.c_elementary.Button' object has no attribute 'clicked' When i also remove the two lines for the clicked event the script seems to run. But when i call myself and hang up nothing happens. I don't know if nothing hapens because of the commented out gui lines or if the code doesn't work anymore in general. I see that there are quite some dbus calls and maybe the syntax for them also has changed. :/ When i interpret it right then the gui part only shows the missed calls/sms. So maybe the gui part isn't needed anymore because we can use opimd-notifier to show the missed calls/sms. But without the script's gui we need another way to confirm and deactivate the reminder. Ciao, Rainer Callback handling in python elementary changed in november 2009: http://lists.shr-project.org/pipermail/shr-devel/2009-November/001374.html That script still uses the old way, so you have to change it. Thanks for the hint. Now i got no error when starting the script (except for __init__) but it seems that it doesn't work. When the script runs and i have a missed call it seems to do nothing except for the fact that opimd-notifier also doesn't pop up anymore. So i thought if maybe opimd-notifier and this script get in the way of each other. But after i killed opimd-notifier and tried it again also nothing happens. So i think that the scripts core functionality isn't working correctly. But i don't know how to investigate the problem because i have no clue of python programming. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Missing feature
Hi, i'm using my Freerunner now for over a week and most things work quite good. :) But there is one major thing i'm missing which has every other mobile phone. The possibility to see unanswered calls/sms without extra turning on the phone. When i missed a call and wasn't near the phone than i do not wakeup the phone only to see if i missed a call. Therefore i often responded to missed calls/sms quite late because i din't know i had one. :/ So i thought how this problem could be solved and had an idea but don't know if it is possible to implement. :) I thought that it would be usefull if the phone wakes up as soon as i move the phone and had an unanswered call/sms. Than after waking up it should play a little sound to get my attention to look at the screen because mostly i have my freerunner in its case and wouldn't see the screen. This wakeup-and-sound feature would only be activated if it goes to suspend with some unseen missed calls/sms. I know that the build in accelerometers (LIS302DL) have an internal interrupt generation when exceeding some predefined acceleration in any direction. So it could be programmed to the current x/y/z position as default and add a little threshold to it on standby . Therefore it would generate an interrupt only if i move the phone. The problem is that i don't know if the interrupt from the accelerometers could be used to wakeup the phone or not. I don't know if this feature is realizable but it would be exact what i need to speed up my response time to missed calls/sms. At the moment my nice Freerunner is not liked very much among my friends which tried to call me and i needed quite a long time to call them back. So this feature would help me to make the freerunner more popular among my friends. Especially that i don't know of any other phone which has such a nice missed call/sms reminder. :) Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
opkg.org virus?
Hi, since quite some time my virus scanner (avast) complains about a virus infection (JS:Illredir-AX[Tr]) when i try to surf to www.opkg.org. Can someone confirm this or is my virus scanner a bit mad? And if there is a virus then why didn't the owner of this site remove it? :) Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: opkg.org virus?
Seems that the owner of the website (who is it?) is no more actively maintaining the site. This is sad because opkg.org was a good starting point to search for different applications. But for a longer time it seems that there is nothing new at all. :( Ciao, Rainer Am 17.06.2010 19:26, schrieb Jakob: there has also been another thread about it last month see http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-f1954 though not much happend On 6/17/10, Ed Kapitein e...@kapitein.org wrote: well, our company virus scanner is also complaining, so it seems a real virus: The page you've been trying to access was blocked. Reason: Virus Detected! The page or file you requested is infected with the following virus: Troj/JSRedir-BD. Kind regards, Ed On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 11:32 +0200, Fox Mulder wrote: Hi, since quite some time my virus scanner (avast) complains about a virus infection (JS:Illredir-AX[Tr]) when i try to surf to www.opkg.org. Can someone confirm this or is my virus scanner a bit mad? And if there is a virus then why didn't the owner of this site remove it? :) Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
qi-bootmenu-0.1 problem with menu
Hi, i use latest qi-bootmenu v0.1 for my GTA02 but i have a strange problem. When i powerup my Freerunner and than press AUX to start the bootmenu it always shows the big openmoko logo and starts the bootmenu. But it doesn't always show the possible bootable partitions. I tried it 15 times and in 7 cases it shows all three bootable partitions on my sd-card. In the other 8 cases it only shows poweroff in the bootmenu. And the cases when it worked and when not seemed randomly distributed. Is this a bug or do i have to do something else to get it working all the time? I have three bootable partitions with ext3 on each of them on my sd-card (shr-u, debian, gamerunner). Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Surveying community expectations on openmoko governance
Am 07.06.2010 00:16, schrieb Marvel Onwuka: Hi Jeremy, I just checked. Its not supposed to ask you for user name and password. Please try the link below again. http://cgi.tu-harburg.de/~somo1774/survey/index.php?sid=19333newtest=Ylang=en https://nemo.strath.ac.uk/owa/redir.aspx?C=b8e741144bdd4387a7f04e5bd2c8d98aURL=http%3a%2f%2fcgi.tu-harburg.de%2f%7esomo1774%2fsurvey%2findex.php%3fsid%3d19333%26newtest%3dY%26lang%3den Regards, Marvelous The problem with this link is that it is shown as http://cgi.tu-harburg.de/~somo1774/survey/index.php?sid=19333newtest=Ylang=en which works ok but the underlying link is https://nemo.strath.ac.uk/owa/redir.aspx?C=b8e741144bdd4387a7f04e5bd2c8d98aURL=http%3a%2f%2fcgi.tu-harburg.de%2f%7esomo1774%2fsurvey%2findex.php%3fsid%3d19333%26newtest%3dY%26lang%3den which leads to the microsoft office site where a username and password is needed. So just copy the text into the url and it works. But if you klick the link within the email client you will get to the wrong url. I only found it out because thunderbird was tagging this email as possible phishing spam because of the different urls in the text and link. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Questions about the cpu to glamo bus and the framebuffer
Am 07.06.2010 12:37, schrieb Rashid Kratou: Hi guys, 2 questions. First: How wide is the bus from the cpu to the glamo gpu? It should be clocked with 90 MHz but I read it has only 7,3 MB/s. How is that possible? Second: Can I draw directly to the framebuffer. Is it possible in qtmoko or in any other distro? I would to write a see programm that just draw directly into it. I would like to draw in first frame just every even line. And in the second frame only every odd line tosave bandwidth on the bus. I don't know if this the right mailing list to ask for it. But maybe you can help me :). If you take a look at the schematics of the freerunner [1] on page 12 is the glamo multi media coprocessor (not just gpu) shown. It seems that the data bus is 16Bit wide with 23Bit address bus. It also seems to be hardwired to use internal PLL for clock generation so i don't know at which speed it runs. Ciao, Rainer [1] http://downloads.openmoko.org/developer/schematics/GTA02/Schematics_Freerunner-GTA02_A5-A7cumulative_public_RC0.pdf ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Surveying community expectations on openmoko governance
Am 07.06.2010 13:55, schrieb arne anka: possible phishing spam because of the different urls in the text and link. who says it isn't? If it is than the initiator of the phishing attack is quite persistent to write more than one email to this list answering questions to link problems. But who knows. ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FFalarms initial volume
Am 21.05.2010 11:11, schrieb Łukasz Pankowski: Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net writes: At the moment the alarm have to sound ~45s before it is loud enough to be heard not only in a absolutely quiet environment. :) Because i can't find a config where i could set the initial starting volume for the alarm sound i added a ticket at [1]. It is configurable, see project webpage http://ffalarms.projects.openmoko.org/#configuration or the README file http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=ffalarms.git;a=blob;f=README;h=d1ee0a307bd8d36510c87dc760ab3368ad988539;hb=HEAD Thanks. I found http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/ffalarms/ where i didn't find the configuration description. But in http://ffalarms.projects.openmoko.org it is directly on the frontpage. :) Ciao, Rainer PS: Please close my feature request ticket. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FFalarms initial volume
At the moment the alarm have to sound ~45s before it is loud enough to be heard not only in a absolutely quiet environment. :) Because i can't find a config where i could set the initial starting volume for the alarm sound i added a ticket at [1]. The thing which is a bit curious is that on this site the current version is 0.4 from March 25, 2010 but in the repository there it is not updated for 6 months. So is this still the right place or has the project moved somewhere else? Ciao, Rainer [1] http://projects.openmoko.org/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=304group_id=260atid=1077 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GameRunner 0.2 is out ! : snes9x, more games, and fixes
Am 13.05.2010 06:52, schrieb Rafael Ignacio Zurita: Changes : * fixes in Gamerunner game control : works always and better. Now red aux button light means mode 2, so we can know which mode is the current one. Touchscreen control is more accurate. First i want to congratulate to this really nice distro. :) Today i tried v0.2 of Gamerunner. Because i'm a big fan of the old FPS (Duke3d, Quake, Doom) i only tried these three. But to be honest none of them were playable. All three started ok but the control of the player was not useable. The player in Doom was only moving sometimes and i could only get it to shoot. The menu is working quite good with touchscreen but i can't control the sliders for the sound/music volume. In Duke3d the player was always running forward and i can't control the movement. Only firing and jumping was working. I had the same problem with duke3d when i was last trying to get it working last year. Only Quake was working more or less with accelerometer (but not with touchscreen) but the sensitivity was so high that only a very very little movement of the neo case leads to a big movement. Therefor it was nearly impossible to control the player in a accurate way. The sensitivity of the accels should be about 1/10 of it's current state. Maybe i'm overseeing something about the controls why it doesn't work for me. But the boot time is really fast and i like the simple finger-friendly game launcher. :) Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR-U] Change Aux key binding [was: Scummvm key binding]
It seems that my topic about a game emulator was not the best choice to ask the underlying question. :) So the basic question was, if there is a way to temporarily change the AUX key binding to something else like F5 from the keyboard and back to screenlock without reboot? Like shown in the non-working script below it must have been possible in the past. Ciao, Rainer Am 07.05.2010 22:32, schrieb Fox Mulder: Hi, i installed scummvm_0.12.0_armv4t.ipk in shr-u and it uses a wrapper script to start real scummvm. In this script it tries to bind the AUX key to F5 before and bind original key to AUX after scummvm. But these functions do not work. This key remapping is really needed when working in fullscreen. Here is the content from the script: #!/bin/sh # Save current AUX Key mapping SAVE_KEY=$(xmodmap -pke | grep 'keycode 177') # Remove the Enlightenment binding for AUX enlightenment_remote -binding-key-del ANY Keycode-177 \ NONE 1 simple_lock # Map AUX Key to F5 xmodmap -e keycode 177 = F5 # Turn LCD feft xrandr -o left # Start the scummvm in fullscreen mode scummvm.real --fullscreen --themepath=/usr/share/scummvm/ # Turn LCD normal xrandr -o normal # Restore the AUX Key mapping xmodmap -e $SAVE_KEY # Restore Enlightenment mapping enlightenment_remote -binding-key-add ANY Keycode-177 \ NONE 1 simple_lock When i try these commands by hand i see that keycode 177 has no function listed (xmodmap -pke). Second thing is that the command enlightenment_remote doesn't have an option called -binding-key-del. Does anyone know how i could do the AUX key binding with shr-u to get scummvm useable again? :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR-U] Scummvm key binding
Hi, i installed scummvm_0.12.0_armv4t.ipk in shr-u and it uses a wrapper script to start real scummvm. In this script it tries to bind the AUX key to F5 before and bind original key to AUX after scummvm. But these functions do not work. This key remapping is really needed when working in fullscreen. Here is the content from the script: #!/bin/sh # Save current AUX Key mapping SAVE_KEY=$(xmodmap -pke | grep 'keycode 177') # Remove the Enlightenment binding for AUX enlightenment_remote -binding-key-del ANY Keycode-177 \ NONE 1 simple_lock # Map AUX Key to F5 xmodmap -e keycode 177 = F5 # Turn LCD feft xrandr -o left # Start the scummvm in fullscreen mode scummvm.real --fullscreen --themepath=/usr/share/scummvm/ # Turn LCD normal xrandr -o normal # Restore the AUX Key mapping xmodmap -e $SAVE_KEY # Restore Enlightenment mapping enlightenment_remote -binding-key-add ANY Keycode-177 \ NONE 1 simple_lock When i try these commands by hand i see that keycode 177 has no function listed (xmodmap -pke). Second thing is that the command enlightenment_remote doesn't have an option called -binding-key-del. Does anyone know how i could do the AUX key binding with shr-u to get scummvm useable again? :) Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Wifi stopped working
Only when you switch the automatic value to manual the option to power it on and off appears. Am 26.04.2010 14:37, schrieb HansV: Strange thing is that I can't power on using shr settings: the dropdown only shows the 'Automatic' value, on and off are not available. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u 20100212] contacts list is empty
jeremy jozwik schrieb: hello list, after some shr-u strangeness i attempter an opkg upgrade. that failed so i was forced to re-flash. i did so with the latest 20100212 file. but now, it seems i no longer have any contacts. ive looked around in the pim settings for contacts and noticed there are 3 entries. ive tried setting all of them to default but still no contacts in the contacts list. there were many before. any one have a guiding light for this issue? AFAIK the contacts are saved in a sqlite db (default) on the filesystem and not on the sim card. So if you re-flashed shr than you also lost your contacts from before. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Tracking power leackage in my freerunner
ri...@happyleptic.org schrieb: -[ Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 11:48:01AM +0300, Paul Fertser ] Your figure is good. #1024 fix saves you about 4-8mA, a considerable amount during suspend-to-ram, but you won't notice the difference if you keep the device in idle but not suspended state. Ok, make sense. So I checked charge_now during suspend (measuring before and after suspend of course) and it seams that the battery is then discharging at the rate of 23mA, which leads to a total of approx 50 hours. Much less than expected. :( After the #1024 fix i measured 5 times (each over a few days standby) and my mean discharge current was ~9,3mA/h which leads to a maximum of ~128,15h standby time. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Tracking power leackage in my freerunner
ri...@happyleptic.org schrieb: I monitored power consumption all day long (from full battery to empty). I observed that the average current consumption (from /sys/.../current_now) is 78mA when idle. My battery, at full charge, is shown to store 1.1Ah (according to /sys/.../charge_now), which leads to battery life of 14h which is exactly what I observed. So, I suspect that 78mA when idle, supposed to be in deep sleep mode with a #1024 fixed device is far from ideal. I thought the #1024 fix is only helping while the freerunner is suspended. For me this fix only changed the current which was consumed while suspended and extended my standby time by a factor of nearly 2x. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Now someone REALLY has to help me!!
Märta schrieb: * HOW TO INSTALL SHR ON A FRERUNNER WITH ANDROID * 1) For being able to install SHR on a Neo with Android you need: Hardware; phone, usb-cable, a computer with Ubuntu Lets say a computer with linux. It must not be especially Ubuntu. Software; Dfu-util, NEO-tools, U-boot (installed on my Neo atm.), a kernel-module and SHR-root filesystem Neo-Tools is not only a textfile instead it is a shell-script for linux which should make the flash process more easily. But you won't need it if you do it by hand. U-boot is ok but you could also flash QI instead. But lets say you stay with u-boot. The software can be found at the following places: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=dfu-util DFU-util : Wtf is intrepid, jaunty karmic, lucid? Am I supposed to understand that? I thought it was a program. These are just names for the different versions of ubuntu. When you do apt-get install dfu-util you have the right version. http://www.denx.de/wiki/U-Boot U-boot : I already have it installed on my neo, so I dont need it again? Good question. Newer versions have some bugfixes and so on but first try i with your preinstalled version. http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/full-om-gta02.jffs2 SHR-root filesystem : Im taking the files from the Testing line instead of Unstable, it's ok, right? Sure it is ok but beware that shr is constantly updated so even testing could sometimes be a bit unstable. But it is a better starting point than the unstable version. http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin Kernel module : Only one file? If you want to install shr-testing in NAND flash you need the kernel to be flashed into the kernel partition. The corresponding modules are already in the root filesystem which should be flashed to the rootfs partition. AND, you need to Flash the Neo before anything can be done. This is done by first installing the DFU-utility software on a Linux computer, connect the Neo and doing the AUX-startup and also typing in the NEO-tools http://users.on.net/~antisol/neotool text somewhere? The commands for flashing the kernel and the rootfs can be found here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dfu-util#Flashing_the_rootfs Ok I think I'll stop here. I really want to succeed with this, because I love the Openmoko, but if I cant get a simple installation right I'll throw this phone into the garbage. In other words, I appreciate all help. You love your openmoko but you will throw it into garbage only because you doesn't know how to use it? These statements seems to contradict each other if you ask me. ;) Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner
Radek Polak wrote: Btw if someone wants to try here is new kernel with modules: http://activationrecord.net/radekp/qtmoko/download/experimental/ I see in your supplied config that you still have CONFIG_MTD_NAND_VERIFY_WRITE=y which was found to be a slowdown in write performance. In latest andy-tracking kernel it is disabled. So i'm right now compiling latest andy tracking with your config and nand write verify disabled. I'm curious if this is really faster than my last normal andy-tracking kernel with none of these optimizations. :) Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] GPS not working
Neil Jerram wrote: 2009/12/22 Bill Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au: Use settings/position and remove AGPS data - I suspect that it installs with a AGPS data file that by default doesnt suit your location - I cant get a lock without cleaning it out after install, then its fine. Apropos of that, I wonder why the software doesn't attempt to get a fix both using and ignoring the AGPS data, simultaneously? The gps chip itself locates the satellites and get a fix and not the software. And the gps chip can only start with agps data or without it. You can't use one gps chip to do two simultanious gps locations with different start conditions. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: More Questions about Encrypting, Internet Access and Games
Rashid wrote: Hi thank you for you answers. May I ask some more questions: Encryption: Is there an easy way to encrypt the whole disk (except /boot)? Like in Ubuntu Alternate the install option install to encrypted LVM? Or will you have to do it manualy by many complicated console commands? I think too the typing of the password is a problem. Can you load the touchscreen software with /boot or isnt it possible. Is it possible to enter the Password with an USB keyboard? Why don't you use an unencrypted partition for the distribution and use an encrypted partition on the sd-card (maybe luks or anythign else) for your sensitive data? If you encrypt the whole distribution i think it will be unusable slow because of lack of cpu power. So only encrypt the sensitive data. But even this could lead to a very high cpu load. Games: Can you just compile the games on your open moko or is there more work to then just type make install? Have I to change small parts of the code like the resolution in a c file? Or have I to do some serious port work? You could just compile the games but you have to use games which runs without keyboard on a touchscreen or only by mouse. In debian you could use many precompiled games from the repository. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navigation
Neil Jerram wrote: 2009/12/10 Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net: Neil Jerram wrote: 2009/12/9 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de: not to belittle the effort -- but in what respect will it be different from navit? would it be worth a consideration to use navit's engine, maybe improving it and add a new efl based interface? Good question. For me the frustrating thing about navit is that it doesn't share maps with tangogps. So: - if you do consider helping navit instead, please consider enhancing it to use the same maps as tangogps - if you continue with your own project, please consider making it use the same maps as tangogps. I don't think that this would be a good choice at all. Tangogps uses png pictures with no routing information within these files. For a navigation application you need vector images to determine the path for routing. And the data for maybe a whole country in png and for all zoom levels would be a few gigabyte with tens of thousands of files. Compared to the vector format navit uses which is only a few hundred megabytes in one file. And it could be rendered in all zoom levels because it is in vector format. So if something should be changed, than it should be tangogps and allother apps that uses png files to use a vector format like navit does which is way better for this purpose. Thanks for following up and explaining this; what you say makes sense. I suppose I was representing the non-technical point of view: I've already downloaded a pile of map data once, why should I need to install or download it again? I can see now why navit can't use only tangogps's bitmap data. But I would guess that a combination could work well: bitmap data for display, plus vector data for routing. The bitmap data could be shared. It would take a lot of space per tile, but would only be needed for places visited and zoom levels used. The vector data would be needed over a much larger area, but would take much less space per square kilometer. I guess the problem then would be ensuring consistency between the vector and bitmap data... If you already have the vector data you doesn't need the bitmap data anymore because you can render the displayed map directly from these data. That is what navit already does and therefor a combination of vector and bitmap data makes no sense. It would make the data redundant and more complicated. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navigation
Neil Jerram wrote: 2009/12/9 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de: not to belittle the effort -- but in what respect will it be different from navit? would it be worth a consideration to use navit's engine, maybe improving it and add a new efl based interface? Good question. For me the frustrating thing about navit is that it doesn't share maps with tangogps. So: - if you do consider helping navit instead, please consider enhancing it to use the same maps as tangogps - if you continue with your own project, please consider making it use the same maps as tangogps. I don't think that this would be a good choice at all. Tangogps uses png pictures with no routing information within these files. For a navigation application you need vector images to determine the path for routing. And the data for maybe a whole country in png and for all zoom levels would be a few gigabyte with tens of thousands of files. Compared to the vector format navit uses which is only a few hundred megabytes in one file. And it could be rendered in all zoom levels because it is in vector format. So if something should be changed, than it should be tangogps and allother apps that uses png files to use a vector format like navit does which is way better for this purpose. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: No gps connection in navit with SHR-unstable
Carsten Gerlach wrote: Hello at all, sorry for this crosspost, but I think this topic is for both list interesting. Today I flashed the new SHR-Image (lite) from 24. nov. 2009 on my freerunner, and installed the latest svn version from navit, 2797. At the start of navit I get this error message: === vehicle_gpsd:vehicle_gpsd_try_open:Trying to connect to localhost:default vehicle_gpsd:vehicle_gpsd_try_open:Warning: gps_fd is 0, most likely you have used a gps.h incompatible to libgpsvehicle_gpsd:vehicle_gpsd_try_open:Connected to gpsd fd=0 evwatch=0xaa3e0 navit:main_real:Using '/home/root/.navit/navit.xml' === In general the gps is working, tested with tangogps. Only navit doesn't see the gps. What can I do to solve this problem? If any further information is needed, I'll try to give my best. :-) I'm at the same error right now. I tried different settings but nothing helped. Now i wanted to compile navit on the freerunner myself but within the shr feeds are not all required packages to do so. And i don't know how to cross-compile it on my pc. :/ Gps works right with tangogps, omgps and advanced-geocaching-tool so it have to be something with navit. I have the latest 2797 version from [1] installed and not the one in the shr feeds. I also linked libgps.so.17 to libgps.so.16. When i look in my current position navit shows something with 832° in front which is a bit off my current position. ;) Ciao, Rainer [1] http://download.navit-project.org/navit/openmoko/svn/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: No gps connection in navit with SHR-unstable
D. Gassen wrote: Am Nov 25, 2009 um 17:07 schrieb Fox Mulder: Carsten Gerlach wrote: Hello at all, sorry for this crosspost, but I think this topic is for both list interesting. Today I flashed the new SHR-Image (lite) from 24. nov. 2009 on my freerunner, and installed the latest svn version from navit, 2797. At the start of navit I get this error message: === vehicle_gpsd:vehicle_gpsd_try_open:Trying to connect to localhost:default vehicle_gpsd:vehicle_gpsd_try_open:Warning: gps_fd is 0, most likely you have used a gps.h incompatible to libgpsvehicle_gpsd:vehicle_gpsd_try_open:Connected to gpsd fd=0 evwatch=0xaa3e0 navit:main_real:Using '/home/root/.navit/navit.xml' === In general the gps is working, tested with tangogps. Only navit doesn't see the gps. What can I do to solve this problem? If any further information is needed, I'll try to give my best. :-) I'm at the same error right now. I tried different settings but nothing helped. Now i wanted to compile navit on the freerunner myself but within the shr feeds are not all required packages to do so. And i don't know how to cross-compile it on my pc. :/ Gps works right with tangogps, omgps and advanced-geocaching-tool so it have to be something with navit. I have the latest 2797 version from [1] installed and not the one in the shr feeds. I also linked libgps.so.17 to libgps.so.16. When i look in my current position navit shows something with 832° in front which is a bit off my current position. ;) Have you tried (re)starting fso-gpsd? AFAIK, tangogps, omgps and advanced-geocaching-tool are all using gypsy and navit is still using gpsd (and fso-gpsd is a compatibility daemon). I sometimes had the same problem and each time fso-gpsd was not running. It should normally be started when the system boots but I found that sometimes it was'nt running when navit tries to use it. Tanogps uses gpsd, so this could not be the problem. But now i tried by accident (opkg update downgraded navit r2797 to shr-u version r2735) the navit version in the shr repository (r2735) and this version works and connects to the gps without problems. I also can see my correct position on the map. So it seems that the precompiled binaries from the navit homepage for the openmoko are not compatible with current shr-u. Tomorrow i will try to contact someone from the navit projects and say this so maybe we can find out where the problem lies. Because i like to have the newest one and not the one from the shr-u repository. :) Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: No gps connection in navit with SHR-unstable
Martin Jansa wrote: On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 11:44:13PM +0100, Fox Mulder wrote: Tanogps uses gpsd, so this could not be the problem. But now i tried by accident (opkg update downgraded navit r2797 to shr-u version r2735) the navit version in the shr repository (r2735) and this version works and connects to the gps without problems. I also can see my correct position on the map. So it seems that the precompiled binaries from the navit homepage for the openmoko are not compatible with current shr-u. Tomorrow i will try to contact someone from the navit projects and say this so maybe we can find out where the problem lies. Because i like to have the newest one and not the one from the shr-u repository. :) Are you sure its because gpsd? No, i was only saying, that (fso-)gpsd is working right because tangogps also uses gpsd and it works. svnrevs 2760 have this problem http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/506 try with navit.xml config if you're using modified one I used the navit.xml from r2797 so this was not the problem. Right after start in the console navit shows this gps.h incompatibility error mesage befor it starts. So i think that the navit package from the navit homepage are compiled with another version of some lib which is not compatible with shr-u. Cian, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit - german localization causes rounding of GPS-position
David Garabana Barro wrote: O Sábado, 31 de Outubro de 2009, Christian Rüb escribiu: Hi, I had the same problem. Also bookmarks will be saved using comma instead of dot a separator (locale settings). As a workaround I unset LC_ALL before starting navit (i.e. Exec=unset LC_ALL; navit in /usr/share/applications/navit.desktop). That way your LANG variable keeps set to de_DE.UTF-8, but locale settings are not in German... I posted this in navit ML back in July - but no response if this is intended or a bug :( At least is't sure it's a known bug/feature: http://wiki.navit- project.org/index.php/FAQ#My_position_is_reported_incorrectly I also use LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 and got the wrong position in navit but i haven't set LC_ALL. So what settings/vars should i change to get navit working in german and with correct position? :) Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit - german localization causes rounding of GPS-position
arne anka wrote: I also use LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 and got the wrong position in navit but i haven't set LC_ALL. So what settings/vars should i change to get navit working in german and with correct position? :) what does locale return? It returns: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 LC_NUMERIC=de_DE.UTF-8 LC_TIME=de_DE.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE=de_DE.UTF-8 LC_MONETARY=de_DE.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES=de_DE.UTF-8 LC_PAPER=de_DE.UTF-8 LC_NAME=de_DE.UTF-8 LC_ADDRESS=de_DE.UTF-8 LC_TELEPHONE=de_DE.UTF-8 LC_MEASUREMENT=de_DE.UTF-8 LC_IDENTIFICATION=de_DE.UTF-8 LC_ALL= As i understand the problem it is that the seperator for numbers is changed between . and , so maybe LC_NUMERIC or some other var also could be problematic? Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Performance of the accelerometer on FR
What are the accelerometers used in the FR (company and model number)?I think it might be Freescale's MMA7260.If it is it has selectable sensitivities in the range of +/- 1.5 g to 6 g what has been selected in the free runner.What I observed is that the Free runner is able to detect shocks as in if a person is running it will work well to detect such shocks.Also if one has to use it to shuffle songs it will work well. Freerunner uses the LIS302DL accelerometers from ST [1]. They can be switched between +-2g and +-8g range and have a resolution of 8 bit per axis. The sample rate can be selected between 100Hz and 400Hz. And they inherit some nice functions like double click detection and zero-g filtering. Ciao, Rainer [1] http://www.st.com/stonline/products/literature/ds/12726/lis302dl.pdf ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2.6.31 is out, where is my ultimate kernel?
William Kenworthy wrote: Qi, uboot or both? I am using a 2.6.28 kernel and only get WSOD when using Qi. After booting using Qi, suspends often give flashes on the screen after it has gone dark, but before it suspends or as it actually powers down. This does not happen on uboot I know Qi (and uboot) are not supposed to affect anything after its passed control over to the kernel, but it looks like its not presetting something that uboot does, and the kernel doesnt know about. I am happy that after swapping between uboot and Qi every week or so, that Qi, or something it does, or doesnt do allows WSOD's to occur. So if you get WSOD's, can you state here if you are using Qi, and if they stop when using uboot. If I am not the only data point for this, it might be easier to fix if others can add their input. If I am not alone in this observation, I'll add it to the bug tracker. BillK My experience with qi so far is very good. I use qi for quite some time now and with latest shr-u kernel i get no WSOD at all. My last WSOD was months ago. I use suspend all the time and also do longer suspend periods like 4 days in a row and never experienced any problems. I update shr every few days. I don't know which version of qi i currently have flashed but it is around two months old. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: german fixing the #1024 bug party
Bernhard Reiter wrote: If you're doing a fix party, could I send my FR to one of you so it gets fixed too? I'd also want the buzz-fix, would it be a big inconvenience? I'd be really grateful. Michal me too? bernhard (austria) I could do the buzz-fix for you but the problem is that i'm in no way related to openmoko and therefore can not guarantee a replacement for any possible damage which may happens in the process. The process itself isn't very complicated but who knows... So if i do the buzz-fix than only without warranty. ;) But if there is no official openmoko member who is willing to do the buzz-fix in germany i could do it. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: german fixing the #1024 bug party
Kahless wrote: hi all, I'm interested in fixing my #1024 bug but i don't want to send it somewhere. (it's my main phone and i love it too much :) ) Is anyone near /North-Rhine/-Westphalia interested in starting a small bug fix party? I would be willing to do the buzz-fix solution with adding a 10µF cap to the existing which i already did to my own freerunner. But i live near Frankfurt a.M. which is not very near to NRW. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner wireless internet
Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Ben Thompson b...@york.ac.uk mailto:b...@york.ac.uk wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 09:25:43AM +, Niels Heyvaert wrote: has anyone ever accessed the internet via wifi from the Freerunner? If so, which distro was it? Does it work only with some particular (few?) routers? I've been connecting to my Linksys (WRT54GX v2, WPA AES) on the FreeRunner running Koolu Android Beta 7 and OM2009. With SHR-U and Mokonnect (my current setup) it does not work. SHR-U + Mokoconnect does not work for me either. I get DHCP timeout and I have tried multiple AP's. try different wifi manager... try nwa please, nicola is doing hard work and for me is nicely working. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/NWA d Hi, I'm in the same situation as Ben and Niels (SHR-u, mokonnect, DHCP timeout). I'll try nwa later today, thanks. Have you tried to use wmiconfig -i eth0 --power maxperf before connecting to your AP? I had equal wlan problems (dhcp timeout and packet loss) until someone meantioned that the power saving feature of the freerunner wlan chip doesn't work with all AP's. And since i'm disabling this feature i can connect to my AP without problems anymore. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bugfix for #1024 (gsm modem re-camping) done
Hi, to be honest i just used the same place that Dieter Spaar used in his fix from [1]. But one problem i see with moving the cap directly beneath the existing one is the height. I used a 0805 10µF capacitor which could fit over the existing resistors but then there is not much space left between the cap, the upper shielding and the lower resistor. And at the position to the right there is an empty space on the board so i don't have to worry what component is below. If i experience any problems with this solution i will try to use an 0603 10µF cap directly beneath the existing one. I'm sorry to tell you that i don't have a link to a reseller for my caps because a friend of mine brought me a few 0805 10µF/22µF and 0603 10µF capacitors from work. :) But from Farnell you can get 0603 [2] and 0805 [3] 10µF SMD capacitors. I don't know if Farnell delivers to normal customers instead of companies. But i do know that Farnell delivers to students and also gives them a sales discount of 12%. Alternatively you can get all Farnell components from the reseller HBE at [4] as normal customer in germany. Ciao, Rainer [1]http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2009-May/001192.html [2]http://de.farnell.com/taiyo-yuden/jmk107bj106ma-t/kondensator-0603-10uf-6-3v/dp/1463375 [3]http://de.farnell.com/taiyo-yuden/jmk212bj106kd-t/kondensator-0805-10uf-6-3v-x5r/dp/1463377 [4]http://www.hbe-shop.de/katalog/ Ed Kapitein wrote: Hi Rainer, Thanks for sharing your work with us. Why did you put the capacitor on the right hand side and extended it with the yellow wire? The wire might pick up a signal and cause other trouble. There seems to be room to fit the extra capacitor on the left hand side, between the two black IC's. What form factor does the capacitor have? do you have a link to a reseller of the capacitors? I am thinking of doing something similar too. Kind regards, Ed Fox Mulder wrote: Hi all, today i did the rework for bug #1024 to my freerunner. First i tried to remove C1009 and replace it with a 22µF capacitor but i had no luck getting it off the board with my tools. Maybe it was glued to good and i have no smd tweezer iron to heat up both ends of C1009 at the same time. So i used the solution where i added a 10µF capacitor parallel to the existing one. My rework is based on [1] by Dieter Spaar. I documented my rework process with a few pictures available here [2]. Now i only need a reliable testcase where i can see if the rework helped or not. Is there any scenario i can try to find out if #1024 is fixed or not? Ciao, Rainer [1] http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2009-May/001192.html [2] http://quakeman.homelinux.net/bugfix_1024/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Bugfix for #1024 (gsm modem re-camping) done
Hi all, today i did the rework for bug #1024 to my freerunner. First i tried to remove C1009 and replace it with a 22µF capacitor but i had no luck getting it off the board with my tools. Maybe it was glued to good and i have no smd tweezer iron to heat up both ends of C1009 at the same time. So i used the solution where i added a 10µF capacitor parallel to the existing one. My rework is based on [1] by Dieter Spaar. I documented my rework process with a few pictures available here [2]. Now i only need a reliable testcase where i can see if the rework helped or not. Is there any scenario i can try to find out if #1024 is fixed or not? Ciao, Rainer [1] http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2009-May/001192.html [2] http://quakeman.homelinux.net/bugfix_1024/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] navit: how good is the debian package?
arne anka wrote: did anyone test the navit packages available from plain debian? how fats are they and how good do they work? am not really ahppy with the dependencies on garmin (how many people actually use garmin maps?), speech, python bindings and most of all mdbtools (who uses access files with navit?). additionally, i am not really able to figure out the level of optimization (like floating point and CCFLAGS=-march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t). the package i built by myself (http://ginguppin.de/node/26) is rather fast and responsive, but still 0.1.0 while debian already has 0.1.1 and a navit.xml with some new stuff, i like (the different vehicles for car, bike, and so on). so, if anybody has experiences to share? I only tried it once but this was months ago and it worked not so good (quite slow). Since than i always compile navit myself from source directly on my freerunner (thanks to all the gcc tools in debian for freerunner). It compiles about half an hour but i can use every compile switch i like and it always runs quite fast. At the moment i think this is the best way for a fast and optimized version of navit. And with every new navit version (when i'm in the mood to update my version) i also compile osm2navit on my pc from the same source package. Than i create a new map file in bin format because i read that with newer navit versions sometimes new features were added to the map format which i don't want to miss. :) Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] right click with xserver-xorg-video-glamo
As you can see in my post i already tried it and with Device i can't click at all anymore. Only with TslibDevice i can produce a left-click. Erik Andresen wrote: Wiki also mentions to use Device, not TslibDevice. Try that. greetings, Erik Fox Mulder schrieb: ... But i have the problem that with the Entry Device i only can move the cursor but no click is recognized (short, long, double). When i use TslibDevice i can do a short and double click but still no long tap for right click. ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] right click with xserver-xorg-video-glamo
Rask Ingemann Lambertsen wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 03:50:22PM +0200, Fox Mulder wrote: Option TslibDevice /dev/input/event1 # Option Device/dev/input/event1 There's no TslibDevice option. If you have hal installed (dpkg-query --status hal), you should not use a Device option. I can't help you with the right button clicks, though. Ok than i will try what happens if i completely remove the Device or TslibDevice Line from my xorg.conf. But the whole InputDevice Section for the touchscreen should still be there? Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[debian] right click with xserver-xorg-video-glamo
Hi, yesterday i changed from the deprecated xserver-xglamo to the new xserver-xorg-video-glamo package and it works better than i expected. :) But now i got the problem that i have no right click again. I read that the long-tap patch from Sebastian Ohl now is implemented in the debian xserver-xorg-input-tslib version. So i tried the settings meantioned at [1] which should work with the fbdev driver. But i have the problem that with the Entry Device i only can move the cursor but no click is recognized (short, long, double). When i use TslibDevice i can do a short and double click but still no long tap for right click. Is the right click solution based on tslib supposed to work with xserver-xorg-video-glamo or if not is there another solution? Here [2] is my current xorg.conf entry for the touchscreen. I also tried the libgtkstylus variant but this seems to have no effect at all. Ciao, Rainer [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#Simulating_right_click_with_stylus [2] Section InputDevice Identifier Configured Touchscreen Driver tslib Option CorePointer true Option SendCoreEventstrue Option TslibDevice /dev/input/event1 # Option Device/dev/input/event1 Option Protocol Auto Option Width 480 Option Height640 Option EmulateRightButton1 EndSection ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[all] wlan power management problems
Hi, since the default wlan mode was changed to use power savings i got problems with my wlan accesspoint. I always have to issue the command wmiconfig -i eth0 --power maxperf to get a stable connection. Now i thought if i could solve this if i change some settings on my wlan ap. I use dd-wrt as router firmware and it has a lot of settings especially for wlan. But i don't know what most of these settings do so maybe someone of you has a suggestion what i can change. Here [1] is a screenshot of all wlan specific settings in dd-wrt. I know that i could still use wmiconfig to use my ap but i would prefer to use the power saving mode. Is there a chance to make my ap work with the ar6000 power savings enabled when changing these settings? Ciao, Rainer [1] http://quakeman.homelinux.net/files/ddwrt.png ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [omgps] collect feature requests
The possibility to enable/disable aided gps start within the settings would be nice since fso still does agps function by itself. So the aided feed of data from omgps would do it the second time after gps start. And disabling agps in omgps speeds up the start and exit time of omgps a little bit. :) Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [omgps] collect feature requests
My name is Rainer not Ciao but i forgive you. :) Ok so when i understand it right i can change between nativ UBX Format and ogpsd (NMEA format?) usage. As i know ogpsd was introduced to solve the problem of multiple programs accessing /dev/ttySAC1 and instead use ogpsd which support multiple connections. But what is not clear to me is how you connect to the gps with UBX format. I thought this is only possible over /dev/ttySAC1, which would block possible ogpsd readings, or does ogpsd support NMEA and UBX format? So in the end i only have to switch somehow from UBX to ogpsd input in omgps to disable the aided gps data function? mqy wrote: hi Ciao, omgps supports two data providers: (1) UBX binary and (2) fso ogpsd (through dbus). with #1, no way to utilize ogpsd, you know duplicate connection to /dev/ttySAC1 would cause unexpected result. Fox Mulder wrote: The possibility to enable/disable aided gps start within the settings would be nice since fso still does agps function by itself. So the aided feed of data from omgps would do it the second time after gps start. And disabling agps in omgps speeds up the start and exit time of omgps a little bit. :) Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [omgps] collect feature requests
mqy wrote: Hehe, I just googled ciao, Ciao bella:) :) ... So the finnaly conclusion: you can't manually switch to ogpsd. BTW, is the start time unacceptable? No it is good but i thought we could even accelerate it a little bit. You know... the faster the better. :) Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR annoyances (+ a few workarounds)
Jon Levell wrote: Dictator The version in the repositories seems to just record crackling if I try and record my voice - this used to work. I got the same problem with latest shr unstable updates. Only crackling is to hear from my recordings. And the timeline while playback moves ~5 times slower than realtime. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] wpa-exiting with code 1 ???
With the latest shr kernel it also didn't work for me. It seems that the kernel isn't the problem at all. So i installed shr unstable (for the first time) to try it there. And surprisingly it worked right out of the box. :) So i think that maybe my wpa_supplicant.conf file isn't working anymore but i never changed it since the time it was working nicely with 2.6.24 kernels. One big problem with wlan still exists. When i ping my server the time fluctuates from ~15ms to ~4000ms and i got additional packet loss. I can see this effect for example when i ssh into my freerunner or download anything from it. So something still must be wrong but i don't know what. My Wlan AP is working right which i verified with a second pc connected through wlan. Anybody else experience such odd wlan behaviour? Ciao, Rainer Fox Mulder wrote: Ok, than it should be the latest kernel from [1]. The kernel there is from June 15th [2]. I will try this kernel with debian and maybe wlan works better than andy-tracking from [3]. :) Ciao, Rainer [1]http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/ [2]uImage-2.6.29-oe10+gitr119819+5a6ed99264c704e517ac312283c58204ee38fee5-r3.5-om-gta02.bin [3]http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=andy-tracking Jakob wrote: i'm using the latest kernel provided by shr. It's from June 15th. I don't know on what the kernel is based on. jake On 6/21/09, Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote: ok, imho it's a mixture of kernel and wpa/shr version... i had a shr-u well working with the kernel i mentioned, but latest shr-u is _really_ nicer! so, i would like to have the wifi working with that... if possible. @Jakob: which kernel do you use, please? ...it seems to me an hard balancing... d On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net wrote: Do you know which kernel you use where wlan and wpa is working? Because i use the latest andy-tracking (in debian) for a few months now and wlan with wpa isn't working since than. But i don't exactly know if the problem is the kernel or wpa_supplicant or something else. Last time it worked was with the deprecated 2.6.24 kernel series. :( Ciao, Rainer Jakob wrote: i don't have a problem using wlan with wpa on latest shr-unstable. I use mofi (included in shr) to connect to my wlan-router. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] wpa-exiting with code 1 ???
I used mofi to connect to my wlan, which also uses a automaticaly created wpa_supplicant config file. In /etc/network/interfaces i only changed usb-networking entries in shr-u. I have to investigate which differences are in the shr-u created and my old wpa conf in debian. Maybe i can find out why wlan in debian isn't working anymore while in shr-u it works with the same kernel. :) Ciao, Rainer Davide Scaini wrote: uhm... thanks for sharing your experience. few questions: you said that maybe your wpa.conf is not working anymore but shr-u is working out of the box... connecting with mofi? In which way? I used to have some /etc/network/interfaces files and switch between them... but now i cannot get connected even using mofi. btw, thanks hoping to have soon news d On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net mailto:quakem...@gmx.net wrote: With the latest shr kernel it also didn't work for me. It seems that the kernel isn't the problem at all. So i installed shr unstable (for the first time) to try it there. And surprisingly it worked right out of the box. :) So i think that maybe my wpa_supplicant.conf file isn't working anymore but i never changed it since the time it was working nicely with 2.6.24 kernels. One big problem with wlan still exists. When i ping my server the time fluctuates from ~15ms to ~4000ms and i got additional packet loss. I can see this effect for example when i ssh into my freerunner or download anything from it. So something still must be wrong but i don't know what. My Wlan AP is working right which i verified with a second pc connected through wlan. Anybody else experience such odd wlan behaviour? Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] wpa-exiting with code 1 ???
Al Johnson wrote: On Thursday 25 June 2009, Fox Mulder wrote: One big problem with wlan still exists. When i ping my server the time fluctuates from ~15ms to ~4000ms and i got additional packet loss. I can see this effect for example when i ssh into my freerunner or download anything from it. So something still must be wrong but i don't know what. My Wlan AP is working right which i verified with a second pc connected through wlan. Anybody else experience such odd wlan behaviour? There were reports that some APs don't play nicely with the power saving enabled on the wifi chip. You could see if it's any more reliable with: iwconfig eth0 power off or wmiconfig -i eth0 --power maxperf Wow you were right with the first guess. After i did wmiconfig -i eth0 --power maxperf my average Ping goes from 583.394ms with packet loss to 13.462ms with no packet loss. :) Now i just have to find the right location where i could execute the command. Do i have to execute it every time i enable wlan or just once after booting? Ciao, Rainer PING 192.168.1.10 (192.168.1.10): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=0 ttl=64 time=1108.074 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=1 ttl=64 time=104.011 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=2 ttl=64 time=20.900 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=3 ttl=64 time=1061.771 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=4 ttl=64 time=58.661 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=5 ttl=64 time=1305.747 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=7 ttl=64 time=1036.534 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=8 ttl=64 time=32.540 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=9 ttl=64 time=1072.011 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=10 ttl=64 time=67.932 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=11 ttl=64 time=1116.922 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=12 ttl=64 time=112.430 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=13 ttl=64 time=1046.550 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=14 ttl=64 time=42.630 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=15 ttl=64 time=1089.967 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=16 ttl=64 time=87.534 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=17 ttl=64 time=1127.966 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=18 ttl=64 time=123.950 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=19 ttl=64 time=1061.496 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=20 ttl=64 time=57.699 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=21 ttl=64 time=1101.848 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=22 ttl=64 time=97.355 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=23 ttl=64 time=1034.018 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=24 ttl=64 time=32.912 ms --- 192.168.1.10 ping statistics --- 28 packets transmitted, 24 packets received, 14% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max = 20.900/583.394/1305.747 ms PING 192.168.1.10 (192.168.1.10): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=0 ttl=64 time=12.949 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=1 ttl=64 time=17.966 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=2 ttl=64 time=15.069 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=3 ttl=64 time=16.872 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=4 ttl=64 time=12.640 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=5 ttl=64 time=13.490 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=6 ttl=64 time=8.022 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=7 ttl=64 time=16.331 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=8 ttl=64 time=16.335 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=9 ttl=64 time=10.998 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=10 ttl=64 time=10.999 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=11 ttl=64 time=6.791 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=12 ttl=64 time=16.326 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=13 ttl=64 time=17.917 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=14 ttl=64 time=10.996 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=15 ttl=64 time=11.256 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=16 ttl=64 time=11.087 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.10: seq=17 ttl=64 time=16.288 ms --- 192.168.1.10 ping statistics --- 18 packets transmitted, 18 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max = 6.791/13.462/17.966 ms ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR annoyances (+ a few workarounds)
Jon Levell wrote: On 06/25/2009 10:03 AM, Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann wrote: Dictator The version in the repositories seems to just record crackling if I try and record my voice - this used to work. I think that comes from SHR keeping the alsa state files in /usr/share/shr/scenarii now - and IIRC dictator needs to change them. Sounds likely... it's a shame - I found Dictator a useful app. When i look at the directory structure in shr-u i see that there exists three scenario dirs in [1] [2] [3]. [1] and [2] are not symlinked together and contains all normale state files. All files except for gsmhandset.state are identical. In [3] are only dictator_play.state and dictator_rec.state. I don't know which state files shr really is using but what exactly is the problem right now with dictator? Ciao, Rainer [1] /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios [2] /usr/share/shr/scenarii [3] /usr/share/scenarios/dictator ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] wpa-exiting with code 1 ???
Do you know which kernel you use where wlan and wpa is working? Because i use the latest andy-tracking (in debian) for a few months now and wlan with wpa isn't working since than. But i don't exactly know if the problem is the kernel or wpa_supplicant or something else. Last time it worked was with the deprecated 2.6.24 kernel series. :( Ciao, Rainer Jakob wrote: i don't have a problem using wlan with wpa on latest shr-unstable. I use mofi (included in shr) to connect to my wlan-router. jake On 6/21/09, Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote: ...and trying with latest kernel i get a kernel panic... do you have a working wifi (or at least a non criptic wpasupplicant behaviour) with shr-unstable? d On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, i'm experiencing some problems with shr unstable... so i downloaded the last one (20090617) and I use that with my favourite kernel (2.28-rc4) with its modules... but the problem still remains: when i try to connect to my home-wifi i get: r...@om-gta02 /etc/network $ ifup eth0 WPA: Configuring Interface ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported run-parts: /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/wpasupplicant exited with code 1 do you have any idea? thanks d ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] wpa-exiting with code 1 ???
Ok, than it should be the latest kernel from [1]. The kernel there is from June 15th [2]. I will try this kernel with debian and maybe wlan works better than andy-tracking from [3]. :) Ciao, Rainer [1]http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/ [2]uImage-2.6.29-oe10+gitr119819+5a6ed99264c704e517ac312283c58204ee38fee5-r3.5-om-gta02.bin [3]http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=andy-tracking Jakob wrote: i'm using the latest kernel provided by shr. It's from June 15th. I don't know on what the kernel is based on. jake On 6/21/09, Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote: ok, imho it's a mixture of kernel and wpa/shr version... i had a shr-u well working with the kernel i mentioned, but latest shr-u is _really_ nicer! so, i would like to have the wifi working with that... if possible. @Jakob: which kernel do you use, please? ...it seems to me an hard balancing... d On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net wrote: Do you know which kernel you use where wlan and wpa is working? Because i use the latest andy-tracking (in debian) for a few months now and wlan with wpa isn't working since than. But i don't exactly know if the problem is the kernel or wpa_supplicant or something else. Last time it worked was with the deprecated 2.6.24 kernel series. :( Ciao, Rainer Jakob wrote: i don't have a problem using wlan with wpa on latest shr-unstable. I use mofi (included in shr) to connect to my wlan-router. jake On 6/21/09, Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote: ...and trying with latest kernel i get a kernel panic... do you have a working wifi (or at least a non criptic wpasupplicant behaviour) with shr-unstable? d On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, i'm experiencing some problems with shr unstable... so i downloaded the last one (20090617) and I use that with my favourite kernel (2.28-rc4) with its modules... but the problem still remains: when i try to connect to my home-wifi i get: r...@om-gta02 /etc/network $ ifup eth0 WPA: Configuring Interface ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported run-parts: /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/wpasupplicant exited with code 1 do you have any idea? thanks d ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] a community effort
William Kenworthy wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 21:07 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org wrote: Is Qi reliable enough already to migrate from u-boot? Yes r no, fails to boot occasionally, and because it doesnt print anything to screen you dont know until much later ... so not unless things have changed and it seems currently unmaintained. Be nice to be corrected as uboot seems essentially in the same boat, but at least its more reliable. I use QI for some months now and it never failed once to boot my neo. I also changed the version of qi some times to a newer version but this never changed the working state for me. :) So think of QI as stable enough for daily use. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] doom accel/touch not working right?
Fox Mulder wrote: Hi, today i tried again opendoom for freerunner from Scott Carlson and it worked much more than it does a few months earlier. Maybe because i use xserver-xglamo and not fbdev at the moment. First i had to modify the /usr/games/dm startscript to [1] and it worked in landscape mode with a resolution of 240x320. But my first problem was that the touchscreen buttons seems not to work as expected. Only the menu button in the upper right always work. The up/down/enter buttons within the menu only seem to work sometimes. When i touch everywhere around sometimes one of these buttons seems to be touched. After a wild touching session i got a new game started but the accelerometer inputs seems to be broken within doom. I can now touch the menu und fire button which worked but no matter how i rotate my neo the player never even moves a bit. I'm using a recent 2.6.29 kernel from andy-tracking and the accelerometers work in mokomaze or acceleroids, so they seem to be ok. I hope Scott you could modify your opendoom version so it works again with accels? :) Or maybe someone else know what to change in the sourcecode to get it going. No one knows how to fix the bug that the input isn't working right anymore? When i do a hexdump /dev/input/event2 or with event3 i got data so the accels seems to work. A short look at the modifications Scott made to the sourcecode shows that he uses these input devices. But ingame the accels has no effect at all. I also took a short look at the touchscreen modifications in the sourcecode but i'm no C(++) programmer so i can't say what could be wrong. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] doom accel/touch not working right?
No one knows how to fix the bug that the input isn't working right anymore? When i do a hexdump /dev/input/event2 or with event3 i got data so the accels seems to work. A short look at the modifications Scott made to the sourcecode shows that he uses these input devices. But ingame the accels has no effect at all. I also took a short look at the touchscreen modifications in the sourcecode but i'm no C(++) programmer so i can't say what could be wrong. Ok, i think i know why the touchscreen input isn't working right. I used a startscript which changes the screen resolution and orientation before and after i start doom. But now i tried to do it in single steps and i found a behaviour which is not right. When i change the screen to 320x240 landscape mode the touchscreen input seems to be still on 640x480. Because on the desktop i can see that the mouse is moving only for 1/4 of the touchscreen area within the visible screen resolution. I use these two commands to change the display resolution and orientation: echo qvga-normal /sys/bus/spi/devices/spi2.0/state xrandr -s 240x320 -o 1 Is there anything which i can do so that the touchscreen input also is scaled to 320x240 in landscape mode? Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[debian] doom accel/touch not working right?
Hi, today i tried again opendoom for freerunner from Scott Carlson and it worked much more than it does a few months earlier. Maybe because i use xserver-xglamo and not fbdev at the moment. First i had to modify the /usr/games/dm startscript to [1] and it worked in landscape mode with a resolution of 240x320. But my first problem was that the touchscreen buttons seems not to work as expected. Only the menu button in the upper right always work. The up/down/enter buttons within the menu only seem to work sometimes. When i touch everywhere around sometimes one of these buttons seems to be touched. After a wild touching session i got a new game started but the accelerometer inputs seems to be broken within doom. I can now touch the menu und fire button which worked but no matter how i rotate my neo the player never even moves a bit. I'm using a recent 2.6.29 kernel from andy-tracking and the accelerometers work in mokomaze or acceleroids, so they seem to be ok. I hope Scott you could modify your opendoom version so it works again with accels? :) Or maybe someone else know what to change in the sourcecode to get it going. Ciao, Rainer [1] # Don't turn LCD off mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage \ org.freesmartphone.Usage.SetResourcePolicy 'Display' 'enabled' # LCD - QVGA landscape echo qvga-normal /sys/bus/spi/devices/spi2.0/state xrandr -s 240x320 -o 1 # start Doom /usr/games/opendoom -config ~/.opendoom/opendoom.cfg # LCD - VGA normal echo normal /sys/bus/spi/devices/spi2.0/state xrandr -s 480x640 -o 0 # Dim LCD automatically mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage \ org.freesmartphone.Usage.SetResourcePolicy 'Display' 'auto' ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: After resume - noise screen of death!!
einstein wrote: Johny Tenfinger wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 21:24, einstein mailingl...@freeyourphone.de wrote: with this kernel suspend works good. but i have some sound problems and wifi problems. if i make a call, i don't here anything, but the other side here my. i don't here ring ring or anything else... when paroli starts i became a error message can't init service Wifi: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod:MethodGetPower with signature on interfaces org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerControl don't exist Of course you have installed proper modules, am I right? i don't have installed any modules. i have to? If you update the kernel you also have to update the kernel modules within /lib/modules. Without the corresponding modules the kernel will not work the way it is supposed to. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Mokomaze] Two bugreports and a feature-request
The Digital Pioneer wrote: I believe both are words. It is my understanding that you can have single precision floating point numbers (float) or double precision (double), and integer values are simply ints. I could be wrong though. It did happen once before. ;) Single precision floating point numbers use 32bit and double precision floating point use 64bit according to IEEE754 standard for floating point numbers. So double precision needs calculation with longer numbers and needs more cpu power with no hardware fpu unit present. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[OM2009] Frameworkd not working?
Hi, two days ago i installed OM2009 on my freerunner and i'm quite impressed with the lookfeel of the gui. :) I flashed the latest kernel [1] and after first boot i installed the corresponding modules [2]. After reboot the modules were recognized and loaded. Now my problem is that it seems that frameworkd is not running. I can see in the process list, that fso-gpds and fso-monitord are running but no frameworkd. When i try to start frameworkd manually the init.d script says ok but no process is running. Therefor no frameworkd specific actions work. The power button is not attached to any action (suspend, shutdown) and no leds are working. Also i can't use any phone function with the preinstalled zhone. And after i installed paroli i got the problem that paroli crashes every time i try to start it. :-/ When i try to start frameworkd on the commandline (not the init.d script) i got the error EOFError: EOF read where object expected. And when i try to start mdbus i got the same error message. Could it be that there is any problem with the dbus because both programs rely on it? I know that OM2009 is still an early beta but maybe someone know a solution for the problem why frameworkd doesn't run. At last i want to say that i hope you people from openmoko keep up the good work even after the bad news spreading around the web. :) Ciao, Rainer [1] uImage-2.6.28-andy-tracking+gitr119792+81c61a7d1abb03aecd13f5395aba355e996a1641-r4-om-gta02 [2] modules-2.6.28-andy-tracking+gitr119792+81c61a7d1abb03aecd13f5395aba355e996a1641-r4-om-gta02 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wifi problems, WPA/WEP differences
Same here. 24 worked stable but 29 doesn't work at all. Connection to AP seems established but no data transfer between freerunner and AP with new kernels. Johny Tenfinger wrote: My AP worked well with .24 kernel. With .28 and .29 it doesn't (I've connected once for about month) 2009/4/5, Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com: Cameron Frazier frazier.came...@gmail.com writes: On Sat, 2009-04-04 at 16:25 +0200, Davide Scaini wrote: ... i use a wep static ip network and a dhcp wpa one, i have some interfaces files that i switch between. ... I can get a DHCP WEP network to connect fine (work), but at home (DHCP WPA) I get nothing. You mention that you have different interface files, coul dyou describe the differences between them. I've had successful connections with open, WEP and WPA networks. And i've seen an AP i couldn't connect at all too. It looks like FR's wifi is incompatible with some APs, no matter if encryption is used or not. See http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket//1250 for example. To sum up: FR's wifi has 2 kinds of known problems: incompatibility with particular APs and instability of the internal firmware. Using an old (pre-.28) kernel is not recommended due to stability issues. Also i think Werner is still going to finish his daemon to promptly power-cycle the wifi module on internal firmware crash; that can improve stability somewhat. I wouldn't hope these compatibility issues will ever be fixed, so my advice is: trade your AP for the one FR can work with. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] preferred working kernel at the moment?
Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net writes: i wonder which kernel is the best or lets say the most stable and working für debian at the moment. Since i upgraded from the last 2.6.24 kernels to the 2.6.28/29 i have more problems than benefits. :/ I have tested andy-tracking b8b36e5ec3db71d for a long time and it seems to be quite stable. The really big improvment from 2.6.24-2.6.28/29 is that the standby time has improved really much. With this i can firstly carry the phone What's the contents of the current_now file in /sys in both cases immediately after resume? I added a script in /etc/apm/scripts which logs the current before and after resume. With kernel andy-tracking 1e257a0e99817a33 it shows 126mA right after resume. But this seems really high because my fr only uses 49mA when idle with backlight turned off and ~113mA idle with backlight on (60%). So i don't think that this current is helpful at all. And which other case do you mean with both cases? problem is that after suspend the backlight mechanism doesn't recognize a touch on the screen anymore. Therefor after it dims and gets dark it That sounds really really odd. Can you reproduce this without having frameworkd running (it tries to control backlight too)? Today i updated all packages in debian (quite a lot) and after reboot the backlight not responding problem doesn't happen after suspend/resume. So i can't reproduce this problem anymore at the moment. Which X server are you running? I use xserver-xglamo because only with this xrandr is working. Another problem is that the memory consumption on debian is much higher and the system responsiveness is much slower than before. But this could also be a problem of other system components which are updated on a regular basis. ps -eorss,cmd | sort -n? Please see attachment. Any idea why wlan isn't working anymore? Because if the backlight problem doesn't appear anymore my main problem is only the non working wlan. Not only dhcp is not working. When i add an ip by hand it also doesn't work. But iwlist eth0 scan shows my wlan access-point and after ifup eth0 (with no dhcp answer) the command iwconfig eth0 shows that i should be connected to my AP. Interesting is that iwconfig shows link quality 0/94, signal level -95dBm and noise level 0dBm. But when i do a iwlist eth0 scan it shows link quality 24/94, signal level -69dBm and noise level -95dBm for my wlan. These differences in signal quality looks quite strange to me. Another mysterious thing is that the wlan connection seems to be oscillating. When i look at the wlan status page of my AP (dd-wrt linux) i can see that the wlan client (my fr) is connected for a few seconds and than disappears in the client list. After a few seconds it appears and then disappears again and this repeats after a few seconds all the time i have wlan activated on my fr. I don't think that the problem is my AP because i got another pc connected to it with a stable connection and dhcp working. Ciao, Rainer 0 [aio/0] 0 [btaddconn] 0 [btdelconn] 0 [events/0] 0 [glamo-spi-gpio.] 0 [hid_compat] 0 [kapmd] 0 [kblockd/0] 0 [khelper] 0 [khubd] 0 [kjournald] 0 [kmmcd] 0 [krfcommd] 0 [kseriod] 0 [ksoftirqd/0] 0 [ksuspend_usbd] 0 [kswapd0] 0 [kthreadd] 0 [mmcqd] 0 [mtdblockd] 0 [pdflush] 0 [pdflush] 0 [spi_s3c24xx_gpi] 0 [watchdog/0] RSS CMD 264 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session /root/.xsession 412 /usr/sbin/apmd -P /etc/apm/apmd_proxy --proxy-timeout 30 432 /usr/sbin/sshd 448 /sbin/getty 38400 tty1 448 /usr/bin/speech-dispatcher 484 /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session /root/.xsession 580 init [2] 604 /usr/bin/xinit /etc/X11/Xsession -- vt4 -nolisten tcp -dpi 96 656 udevd --daemon 668 /usr/sbin/cron 672 /bin/su --login --command /usr/bin/xinit /etc/X11/Xsession -- vt4 -nolisten tcp -dpi 96 root 672 /usr/sbin/syslog-ng -p /var/run/syslog-ng.pid 676 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 5 --print-address 7 --session 712 sort -n 736 /bin/sh /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc -- /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc 820 ps -eorss,cmd 896 hald-runner 948 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system 972 hald-addon-input: Listening on /dev/input/event1 /dev/input/event0 /dev/input/event4 984 1008 /usr/sbin/hcid -x -s 1024 1256 1392 /usr/sbin/fso-gpsd -S localhost gpsd -P /var/run/fso-gpsd.pid 1848 /usr/sbin/hald 1976 bash 2388 /usr/bin/matchbox-keyboard 3308 xterm 4752 Thunar --sm-client-id 117f0100012336611660014070002 --daemon 5116 /usr/lib/xfce4-systemload-plugin/xfce4/panel-plugins/xfce4-systemload-plugin socket_id 18874422 name systemload id 12194331342 display_name Systemauslastung size 36 screen_position 11 5296 xfce-mcs-manager 6096 X :0 vt4 -nolisten tcp -dpi 96 6524 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/frameworkd 7384 /usr/bin/xfce4-session 13160 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin
[debian] preferred working kernel at the moment?
Hi, i wonder which kernel is the best or lets say the most stable and working für debian at the moment. Since i upgraded from the last 2.6.24 kernels to the 2.6.28/29 i have more problems than benefits. :/ I tried the latest selfcompiled andy-tracking from [1] and the latest unstable OM kernel from [2]. There are a few more locations for kernels which i didn't try so far. But both kernels i tried didn't change in the last ~2 weeks why i wonder if there is a better/newer kernel version somewhere available. I also don't know if andy-tracking is still the newest version after andy left openmoko. The really big improvment from 2.6.24-2.6.28/29 is that the standby time has improved really much. With this i can firstly carry the phone with me without to be worried about an empty battery at the evening. But than the problems on the other side are real blockers. First big problem is that after suspend the backlight mechanism doesn't recognize a touch on the screen anymore. Therefor after it dims and gets dark it never get back to full brightness after i touch the screen. But the desktop itself recognizes my touch and i can work as long as the backlight is still on. I found out that the backlight gets back on when i press the aux button. This is happening with andy-tracking. I still have to try if this also happens with the latest official 2.6.28. Second big problem for me is that wlan isn't working anymore. With 2.6.24 it worked quite good and stable. But with 2.6.28-OM and 2.6.29-andy it only works half. I can associate with my AP and the freerunner and my AP both list each other as connected. But than no communication works at all. I started wireshark on my freerunner and it shows that the only protocoll which is exchanged is LLC which i don't know. But the dhcp request is never answered. And wireshark on my linux-AP shows that it never receives any request at all. At the moment i only tried dhcp and no static configuration on my freerunner. But dhcp worked very stable with the 2.6.24 kernel and a static configuration is not very usefull whith changing wlan locations. Another problem is that the memory consumption on debian is much higher and the system responsiveness is much slower than before. But this could also be a problem of other system components which are updated on a regular basis. So i hope anyone can suggest me a kernel which works as much as i could even use my freerunner again. At the moment it is useless without working backlight after suspend and working wlan. :/ Ciao, Rainer [1] http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=andy-tracking [2] http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/unstable/NeoFreerunner/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] xfce and xglamo
Fox Mulder wrote: Today i updated all packages and installed x11-utils to get xdpyinfo. After i started it says 96 dpi which seems correct. Interestingly i can't reproduce the big font problem anymore. Now it seems that all programs use the 96dpi fontsize. I haven't started all programs but the ones that last time had a too large font are now correct. I also restarted my fr the last time i tried some times without luck. So it seems the problem is gone even i don't know why. :) So the only problem remaining is that i can't produce a right click with the suggested solution from the wiki page. Maybe someone has an idea how to get it to work? I got the big font problem back and now i know how to reproduce it. :) After i used xrandr to change to landscape mode the resolution was changed from 96x96 dpi to 284x280 dpi according to xdpyinfo. After i changed back to normal mode the big fonts were still there. Is there a way to adjust the dpi just after i changed the layout of the screen or is there another setting to solve this? Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] vncviewer vnc_3.3.7-r0 but scrolling does not work
Matthias Apitz wrote: Hi, I've installed vnc_3.3.7-r0 in my FR; the remote desktop comes up in the FR screen with scrollbars (because the real desktop is 1024x768 which does not fit in 480x640 of the FR screen); so far so good; you may scroll it once in only one direction on both scrollbars, but it does not scroll back :-(( I have the same problems with vnc that it only scrolls in one direction on my fr. I hope there is a solution to this bug, because it makes vnc useless. :( Ciao, Rainer PS: I'm using a vnc client within debian and not OM2008.9 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pulster fixe(s) and rework
Johny Tenfinger wrote: On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 08:32, Joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org wrote: * Change the led transistor power hungry stuff Guys, this has been fixed for *ALL* FR ever sold!!! No, no, no. You are right only for GTA02v6. On GTA02v5 (which I have) this has been fixed only for orange and blue LEDs under POWER button. Red AUX button is still power hungry - it is eating 50mA. Your mentioned 50mA for the AUX LED is ridiculous. It would burn out with this high current. Normal LEDs only use ~20mA and low current LEDs ~2mA. 50mA would be for a higher power led which isn't build into the freerunner. And when you are on battery the AUX led is off by default and even if it blinks (like i modified my led behaviour) it isn't really much it uses. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pulster fixe(s) and rework
Andy Green wrote: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Johny Tenfinger wrote: | On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 08:32, Joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org wrote: | * Change the led transistor power hungry stuff | Guys, this has been fixed for *ALL* FR ever sold!!! | No, no, no. You are right only for GTA02v6. On GTA02v5 (which I have) | this has been fixed only for orange and blue LEDs under POWER button. | Red AUX button is still power hungry - it is eating 50mA. | | Your mentioned 50mA for the AUX LED is ridiculous. It would burn out | with this high current. Normal LEDs only use ~20mA and low current LEDs | ~2mA. 50mA would be for a higher power led which isn't build into the | freerunner. | And when you are on battery the AUX led is off by default and even if it | blinks (like i modified my led behaviour) it isn't really much it uses. Johnny Tenfinger is right despite it sounds strange. On some or all A5s there is no base current limit resistor on the bipolar transistor used to light the AUX LED. This 50mA fault current then flows not through the LED (which has a reasonable series current limit resistor), but through the GPIO IO cell and the driver transistor base. If this is the problem than it really is a bad design flaw... Maybe i should test the AUX LED on my gta02v5 how much current it uses when it is on. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian/all] wake when needed
I tried wkalrm by Werner Almesberger and it works without problems. I don't know where i found it so i attached it to this mail. Ciao, Rainer Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: Hi I see, rtcwake does not work on freerunner: freerunner:~# rtcwake -s 30 rtcwake: /dev/rtc0 not enabled for wakeup events Is there any working methond to make freerunner suspend sleep and later wakeup not later than at a given moment? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community /* * wkalrm.c - Use the RTC alarm to wake us up * * Copyright (C) 2008 by OpenMoko, Inc. * Written by Werner Almesberger wer...@openmoko.org * All Rights Reserved * * This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify * it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by * the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or * (at your option) any later version. */ #include stdlib.h #include stdio.h #include unistd.h #include string.h #include time.h #include fcntl.h #include sys/ioctl.h #include linux/rtc.h #define DEFAULT_RTC /dev/rtc0 static const char *device = DEFAULT_RTC; static int fd; /* - Low-level wrappers */ static void read_alarm(struct rtc_wkalrm *alarm) { int res; res = ioctl(fd, RTC_WKALM_RD, alarm); if (res 0) { perror(ioctl(RTC_WKALM_RD)); exit(1); } } static void read_time(struct rtc_time *tm) { int res; res = ioctl(fd, RTC_RD_TIME, tm); if (res 0) { perror(ioctl(RTC_RD_TIME)); exit(1); } } static void write_alarm(const struct rtc_wkalrm *alarm) { int res; res = ioctl(fd, RTC_WKALM_SET, alarm); if (res 0) { perror(ioctl(RTC_WKALM_SET)); exit(1); } } /* - Date conversions -- */ static void show_alarm(void) { struct rtc_wkalrm alarm; read_alarm(alarm); if (!alarm.enabled) printf(alarm disabled%s\n, alarm.pending ? (pending) : ); else printf(%02d:%02d:%02d %04d-%02d-%02d%s\n, alarm.time.tm_hour, alarm.time.tm_min, alarm.time.tm_sec, alarm.time.tm_year+1900, alarm.time.tm_mon+1, alarm.time.tm_mday, alarm.pending ? (pending) : ); } static void set_alarm_abs(const char *t, const char *day) { fprintf(stderr, not yet implemented :-)\n); exit(1); } static void set_alarm_delta(time_t delta) { struct rtc_wkalrm alarm; struct tm tm, *tmp; time_t t; read_time(alarm.time); memset(tm, 0, sizeof(tm)); tm.tm_sec = alarm.time.tm_sec; tm.tm_min = alarm.time.tm_min; tm.tm_hour = alarm.time.tm_hour; tm.tm_mday = alarm.time.tm_mday; tm.tm_mon = alarm.time.tm_mon; tm.tm_year = alarm.time.tm_year; t = mktime(tm); if (t == (time_t) -1) { fprintf(stderr, mktime: error\n); exit(1); } t += delta; tmp = localtime(t); if (!tmp) { fprintf(stderr, localtime_r: error\n); exit(1); } alarm.time.tm_sec = tmp-tm_sec; alarm.time.tm_min = tmp-tm_min; alarm.time.tm_hour = tmp-tm_hour; alarm.time.tm_mday = tmp-tm_mday; alarm.time.tm_mon = tmp-tm_mon; alarm.time.tm_year = tmp-tm_year; alarm.enabled = 1; write_alarm(alarm); } static void set_alarm_rel(const char *delta) { unsigned long n; char *end; n = strtoul(delta, end, 10); if (!strcmp(end, d) || !strcmp(end, day) || !strcmp(end, days)) n *= 24*3600; else if (!strcmp(end, h) || !strcmp(end, hour) || !strcmp(end, hours)) n *= 3600; else if (!strcmp(end, m) || !strcmp(end, min) || !strcmp(end, mins)) n *= 60; else if (strcmp(end, s) strcmp(end, sec) strcmp(end, secs)) { fprintf(stderr, invalid delta time \%s\\n, delta); exit(1); } set_alarm_delta(n); } static void disable_alarm(void) { struct rtc_wkalrm alarm; read_alarm(alarm); alarm.enabled = 0; write_alarm(alarm); } static void set_alarm_24h(const char *t) { fprintf(stderr, not yet implemented :-)\n); exit(1); } static void set_alarm(const char *when) { if (*when == '+') set_alarm_rel(when+1); else set_alarm_24h(when); } /* - Command line
Re: [Om2008.12] Adding swap space can stop app crashes
Nick Van Fossen wrote: Just as a helpful note, adding swap space seems to help against application crashes. I've always had issues with tangoGPS and the various webbrower apps crashing. Looking into it a little more I notice that this was occurring when the puny 128MB of memory was getting filled up. So, I added a swap file onto my microSD card and have had these problems practically clear up. Anyone else had any similar experiences? If this is a true fix this should probably go onto the wiki. I can agree with your findings. I also use a swap file with debian because without it freezes quite a lot when starting many applications and the memory got filled up. But i only added 64MB of swap and that is enough to never got debian freeze again. :) Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] runaway proc events/0 automatic reboot
Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Tuesday, January 13, 2009 a las 02:38:45PM +0200, Timo Juhani Lindfors escribió: Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de writes: only; perhaps there are more o complexer situations cuasing that problem :-( In any case, try compiling linux from andy-tracking branch. Until now I have only compiled kernels and apps in FreeBSD or Linux on x86 and I've no experience how to compile and build a kernel for Om2008.x on armv4; Is the Wiki page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_developer_guide the point to start from to create my own Om2008.x kernel and userland or some other/better places to start? Thx For compiling the kernel you neet the toolchain first. On the toolchain wiki page [1] is the installation of it and compilation of andy-tracking kernel described. I would suggest to start there first. Ciao, Rainer [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: password vault?
I'm useing KeepassX [1] which is opensource and available for windows, linux, handy java j2me, on usb-sticks and many more. The database is aes encrypted and is compatible between all these keepass versions. It is available in the openmoko debian repo. Ciao, Rainer [1] http://www.keepassx.org/ Angus Ainslie wrote: Try Pyring it's on opkg.org On Jan 9, 2009, at 7:24 AM, Vasco Névoa vasco.ne...@sapo.pt wrote: Hi all. Does anyone know a good password vault application that we can use in OM? Thanks, Vasco. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[debian] 2.6.28 kernel problems (was: Re: When will kernel 2.6.24 be replaced...)
Paul Fertser wrote: rm -rf staging mkdir -p staging make ARCH=arm modules_install INSTALL_MOD_PATH=staging cd staging tar czf ../modules-whatever.tar.gz . cd .. And then scp your modules-whatever.tar.gz to FR and untar to /. Sorry if i'm annoying you, but now it worked. :) After i read build how you mentioned i found the problem why no modules tar.gz were created. The build script needs a second parameter to create the archive where the parameter can be whatever. I don't know why this check is build into the script but with help of that it worked. Second problem was that i had to copy the .config into the dummy directory and not the linux-2.6 dir to be found. The problem is that the info on the toolchain wiki [1] is a bit wrong concerning kernel compiling. So i added a remark with the right steps on this page. I updated my fso-frameworkd with help of the patch from [2] and copied the kernel and modules to the right place. Than i booted with the new 2.6.28 kernel but it didn't work at the first try. I have a 64MB swap file activated in /etc/fstab which lies on the third vfat partition of my sd-card. And at the point where the message activating swap partitions came it hung and showed an error message after 120sec timeout. So i thought that vfat wasn't working at boot time and i disabled the swap file. Next boot goes through and the freerunner started without any suspicious error messages. After it booted the sd-card was mounted what means that vfat should work. I had the same problem with the swap file a few weeks ago with an older andy kernel and i don't know what the problem is. But after a short test i found a few things that doesn't work anymore. Don't know if they are related to the fso-frameworkd patches or to the new kernel. Openmoko-panel-plugin doesn't start anymore with an error message [3]. The system time was set back to 1 Jan 2000. And the greatest problem i had was wlan. I could access the eth0 device and it shows all available wlan stations but i can't use my wpa2 protected wlan with wpa_supplicant anymore. Iwconfig showed that i should be connected to my wlan but i can't get an ip with dhcp anymore like with my old 2.6.24 kernel. The dhcp client always tries and after 6-7 dhcpdiscover it exits with no dhcp server available. That is the reason why i'm now back to the 2.6.24 kernel where these things work. Maybe the userspace tools need a bit more tweaking before they work together with the new 2.6.28 kernel. Or the configuration for the 2.6.28 kernel have to be modified to work with my system. I removed a few unneeded modules (i.e. Android things) and added a few modules but i don't think that these have to do anything with my problems. :/ I attached my dmesg log. Maybe someone know of any other modifications i can try to get the new kernel running a bit smoother. :) Ciao, Rainer [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain#Building_Openmoko_Kernel_from_git_repo_using_Toolchain [2] http://trac.freesmartphone.org/attachment/ticket/293/0001-Modify-sys-paths-to-work-with-andy-tracking-kernel.patch [3] Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/openmoko-panel-plugin, line 52, in module icon = PanelPlugin(dbus_object, notificationAvailable) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/panelplugin/PanelPlugin.py, line 32, in __init__ self.configReader() File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/panelplugin/PanelPlugin.py, line 46, in configReader self.appendIcon(icon) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/panelplugin/PanelPlugin.py, line 72, in appendIcon self.icons.append(USBIcon(self.dbus, self, self.notificationAvailable)) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/panelplugin/USBIcon.py, line 17, in __init__ PowerStateIcon.__init__(self, self.dbus, None, None, UsbHost, self.parentObject, usb, self.notificationAvailable) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/panelplugin/PowerStateIcon.py, line 19, in __init__ self.powerstate = self.dbusdeviceiface.GetPower() File /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/dbus/proxies.py, line 68, in __call__ return self._proxy_method(*args, **keywords) File /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/dbus/proxies.py, line 140, in __call__ **keywords) File /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/dbus/connection.py, line 622, in call_blocking message, timeout) dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method GetPower with signature on interface org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerControl doesn't exist [0.00] Linux version 2.6.28-GTA02_andy-tracking_b8b36e5ec3db71d5-mokodev (r...@wayne) (gcc version 4.1.2) #1 PREEMPT Wed Jan 7 14:41:32 CET 2009 [0.00] CPU: ARM920T [41129200] revision 0 (ARMv4T), cr=c0007177 [0.00] CPU: VIVT data cache, VIVT instruction cache [0.00] Machine: GTA02 [0.00] Memory policy: ECC disabled, Data cache writeback [0.00] On node 0 totalpages: 32768 [0.00] free_area_init_node: node 0, pgdat c04b98bc, node_mem_map
Re: stupid networking question
Thomas Otterbein wrote: It looks now like that: auto lo iface lo inet loopback # freerunner auto usb0 allow-hotplug usb0 iface usb0 inet static address 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.192 post-up /etc/network/freerunner start pre-down /etc/network/freerunner stop You should only use auto usb0 or allow-hotplug usb0 but not both at the same time. For me it only works with auto and not hotplug but don't ask why. ;) Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] 2.6.28 kernel problems
Paul Fertser wrote: Hi, Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net writes: Sorry if i'm annoying you, but now it worked. :) No problem, i'm glad it worked :) After i read build how you mentioned i found the problem why no modules tar.gz were created. The build script needs a second parameter I think it needs a first parameter exactly as described on the wiki. Thats right. Only the name dummy can also be anything else like GTA02 or whatever. Second problem was that i had to copy the .config into the dummy directory and not the linux-2.6 dir to be found. I have no idea where that dummy directory came from :) I'm afraid you're misinterpreting the build script. It seems to me that instructions on wiki are correct. I took a closer look at the build script and i'm quite sure that i'm interpreting it correct. Maybe the name dummy as first parameter is not very good. In the wiki it uses dummy as first parameter which is nothing else than the name of the output subdirectory. But the build script also has a check for a second parameter with if [ ! -z $2 ] ; then in line 96. And only if a second parameter is given, no matter what it is, the code between line 97 and 100 for making a modules tar.gz file is executed. But this parameter is not mentioned in the wiki. error messages. After it booted the sd-card was mounted what means that vfat should work. I had the same problem with the swap file a few weeks ago with an older andy kernel and i don't know what the problem is. There was a test report from a user stating that his uSD is unstable unless he lowers sd_clock. It might be a problem here, as well. Ok, i will try if this helps at boot time. Openmoko-panel-plugin doesn't start anymore with an error message [3]. That's because you use an old unfixed version of o-p-p that tries to read information about usb host power from /sys nodes that were changed. I think you can fix it yourself with the help of http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Kernel#GTA02_.2Fsys_mappings_for_andy-tracking_vs_stable and suggest to o-p-p developers to be compatible with andy-tracking. Sounds good. And the greatest problem i had was wlan. I could access the eth0 device and it shows all available wlan stations but i can't use my wpa2 protected wlan with wpa_supplicant anymore. Iwconfig showed that i should be connected to my wlan but i can't get an ip with dhcp anymore like with my old 2.6.24 kernel. The dhcp client always tries and after 6-7 dhcpdiscover it exits with no dhcp server available. That clearly looks as a regression. I think you should write in details what problems with wlan you experience along with wpa_supplicant debug output and relevant dmesg to the kernel mailing list, where it would (hopefully) be investigated. For me wlan with wpa (not wpa2) works just fine. I hope i find much debug information and will mail it in the kernel list. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] 2.6.28 kernel problems
Andy Green wrote: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I took a closer look at the build script and i'm quite sure that i'm | interpreting it correct. | Maybe the name dummy as first parameter is not very good. In the wiki | it uses dummy as first parameter which is nothing else than the name This has changed in the last week. It was taking me a great deal of time to switch between GTA02 and GTA03 kernel builds, so I changed the build script to use the O= kernel makefile parameter to keep the object files and configs for the builds in different subdirs. http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=commitdiff;h=aeb4db1b913993a3e06522f13bab79decbd3cdef This reduces the time needed to switch typically to just 10 - 20 seconds or so. It requires the subdir name to be given in the first parameter as described in the changed build script. The optional dummy parameter to signal that you want a module tarball is then the second parameter now. It sounds like the combination of the Wiki and the comments and error help in the build script led to you some kind of hybrid solution, but the idea is you would have a GTA02 subdir with suitable config and build that with ./build GTA02, while having a GTA03 subdir with different config and build that with ./build GTA03. Thanks for this information. :) So the right command line would be something like ./build GTA02 dummy to find within the GTA02 directory the modules tar.gz afterwards. But before i first run the build script i have to create the GTA02 directory by hand and copy the .config into it. Else the build script doesn't find any .config and starts the console configuration of the kernel. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: /bin/sh: Syntax error: ( unexpected building kernel
The error message looks like your kernel name is just too long. 2.6.28-GTA03_origin/my-andy-tracking_03a07f0da5734683-g03a07f0-dirty is 69 characters and it seems that only 64 are allowed. :) Maybe you should just select a shorter local branch name. Ciao, Rainer Tarandeep Gill wrote: Ok. I found out what was wrong, as someone has already pointed in this mailing list, I had to make a local branch. But now I get the following error: scripts/kconfig/conf -s arch/arm/Kconfig CHK include/linux/version.h GEN /home/taran/Openmoko/linux-2.6/GTA03/Makefile CHK include/linux/utsrelease.h 2.6.28-GTA03_origin/my-andy-tracking_03a07f0da5734683-g03a07f0-dirty exceeds 64 characters make[1]: *** [include/linux/utsrelease.h] Error 1 make: *** [sub-make] Error 2 make: INTERNAL: Exiting with 6 jobserver tokens available; should be 5! - Tarandeep On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Tarandeep Gill taran.i...@gmail.com wrote: I am receiving the same error, and even changing bin/sh to bin/bash does not help. This is what I get: -- scripts/kconfig/conf -s arch/arm/Kconfig CHK include/linux/version.h UPD include/linux/version.h /bin/sh: Syntax error: ( unexpected make[1]: *** [include/config/kernel.release] Error 2 make: *** [sub-make] Error 2 make: INTERNAL: Exiting with 6 jobserver tokens available; should be 5! -- Any help would be appreciated! - Tarandeep On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 1:07 AM, Asheesh Laroia openm...@asheesh.org wrote: On Mon, 8 Dec 2008, Rui Castro wrote: Hi, I've been trying to compile openmoko kernel and I can't even start because of this dummy error: - $ ./build dummy scripts/kconfig/conf -s arch/arm/Kconfig scripts/kconfig/conf -s arch/arm/Kconfig CHK include/linux/version.h /bin/sh: Syntax error: ( unexpected The script probably has bashisms. Set /bin/sh to /bin/bash and you'll do fine. See My production system has broken and I just want to get it back up! at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DashAsBinSh . -- Asheesh. -- The Tree of Learning bears the noblest fruit, but noble fruit tastes bad. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: When will kernel 2.6.24 be replaced by andy 2.6.28 kernel for better suspend/resume?
Paul Fertser wrote: Hi, Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net writes: Paul Fertser wrote: Sander van Grieken san...@3v8.net writes: So the question is, when will the default kernel be replaced by the new 2.6.28 andy kernel so that userspace tools could be adapted to it? That would be my question as well. I only care for userspace to be adapted to test the suspend/resume functionality (on FSO, only frameworkd?). frameworkd newer than 31 Dec should properly support both kernels. I'm afraid it's not included in any images yet (please correct me if i am wrong). Latest fso-frameworkd in debian is 0.8.4.3-20081215-1 which is older than 31 dec i would guess. I hope a new version comes very soon so i can try to change from 2.6.24 to the new 2.6.28 kernel. :) Actually, you can try to change from 2.6.24 after applying an ad-hoc patch from http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/293 even on old version that's provided by Debian (that's exactly what i did a month ago). Ok. I downloaded the fso-frameworkd source, copied the patch into it and applied it without any problems. Now do i install the fso-frameworkd with ./setup.py install ? But i have the problem that on [1] only the 2.6.28 kernel but no modules are online. Where do i get the corresponsing modules for this kernel? Last time i checked there was an older kernel with a modules package but no more. Ciao, Rainer [1] http://people.openmoko.org/andy/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: When will kernel 2.6.24 be replaced by andy 2.6.28 kernel for better suspend/resume?
Paul Fertser wrote: Hi, Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net writes: Actually, you can try to change from 2.6.24 after applying an ad-hoc patch from http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/293 even on old version that's provided by Debian (that's exactly what i did a month ago). Ok. I downloaded the fso-frameworkd source, copied the patch into it and applied it without any problems. Now do i install the fso-frameworkd with ./setup.py install ? That's distribution-dependent. I'd suggest to apply the patch to the frameworkd you have already installed and change /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml by hand. Or if you want to try to install from source, you probably don't need any patches at all, as you can install a version recent enough (though it's possible that some SHR apps are not ready yet). But i have the problem that on [1] only the 2.6.28 kernel but no modules are online. Where do i get the corresponsing modules for this kernel? Last time i checked there was an older kernel with a modules package but no more. I think it's assumed that everything you need for everyday work is compiled-in. If you want to use some webcams or other unusual devices, just compile a kernel yourself from git, it's not hard. Or ask Andy to provide all the modules ;) I don't think that all modules are compiled in because the current kernel is only 896K in size. And the OM kernels are ~1,7M. I already though about compiling the freerunner kernel myself having a bit knowledge about normal pc linux kernel compilation. But for this i have to set up cross compile what i never did before. So first i have to find a good how-to which describes how i fetch the kernel with git (never used it) and how to cross compile it for my freerunner on my pc. It would be much easier if i got a working kernel and modules. Maybe andy has a bit spare time to update his website. Else i have to jump in the cold water and do this on my own. :/ Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix attempt, tomorrow
Yoann ARNAUD wrote: kimaidou a écrit : Tommorow, I (my colleague, actually) will try to fix the buzz of my OM version A5 according to the manual of Joerg. Since I was asked, here is the documentation I will use : http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP__DRAFT3__.pdf http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP_rc2.pdf is the newer version. Don't know what changed but DRAFT3 is the first public version available and rc2 the latest. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: When will kernel 2.6.24 be replaced by andy 2.6.28 kernel for better suspend/resume?
Fox Mulder wrote: Paul Fertser wrote: Hi, Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net writes: Actually, you can try to change from 2.6.24 after applying an ad-hoc patch from http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/293 even on old version that's provided by Debian (that's exactly what i did a month ago). Ok. I downloaded the fso-frameworkd source, copied the patch into it and applied it without any problems. Now do i install the fso-frameworkd with ./setup.py install ? That's distribution-dependent. I'd suggest to apply the patch to the frameworkd you have already installed and change /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml by hand. Or if you want to try to install from source, you probably don't need any patches at all, as you can install a version recent enough (though it's possible that some SHR apps are not ready yet). But i have the problem that on [1] only the 2.6.28 kernel but no modules are online. Where do i get the corresponsing modules for this kernel? Last time i checked there was an older kernel with a modules package but no more. I think it's assumed that everything you need for everyday work is compiled-in. If you want to use some webcams or other unusual devices, just compile a kernel yourself from git, it's not hard. Or ask Andy to provide all the modules ;) I don't think that all modules are compiled in because the current kernel is only 896K in size. And the OM kernels are ~1,7M. I already though about compiling the freerunner kernel myself having a bit knowledge about normal pc linux kernel compilation. But for this i have to set up cross compile what i never did before. So first i have to find a good how-to which describes how i fetch the kernel with git (never used it) and how to cross compile it for my freerunner on my pc. It would be much easier if i got a working kernel and modules. Maybe andy has a bit spare time to update his website. Else i have to jump in the cold water and do this on my own. :/ I installed the om toolchain and compiled the 2.6.28 kernel after some help of [1] and google with ./build dummy. After i compiled the kernel i got dummy/uImage-GTA02.bin what looks quite good so far. But how do i extract the compiled modules from the dummy directory to package them for transfer to the freerunner? On my pc i just would do make modules_install to copy the compiled modules to the right place. And in the subdirectories of the dir dummy are predominantly *.cmd and *.o files but modules normally end with *.ko. So i don't know what to to at this point to get the modules out of it. I hope someone can help me a bit. :) Ciao, Rainer [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain#Building_Openmoko_Kernel_from_git_repo_using_Toolchain ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: When will kernel 2.6.24 be replaced by andy 2.6.28 kernel for better suspend/resume?
Paul Fertser wrote: Hi, Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net writes: I installed the om toolchain and compiled the 2.6.28 kernel after some help of [1] and google with ./build dummy. After i compiled the kernel i got dummy/uImage-GTA02.bin what looks quite good so far. But how do i extract the compiled modules from the dummy directory to package them for transfer to the freerunner? You gave a parameter to the build script, so it should have installed the modules to the staging directory and made a file named modules$VERSION.tar.gz . Just scp it to your FR and untar to / . That's what is also described on the wiki page but there is no modules tar.gz file. I searched the whole linux-2.6 directory with all subdirs without luck. I did a ./build dummy again and i see that at some point it shows Building modules, stage 2.. And after that all modules are listed with extension *.ko which is correct. After i took a closer look i can see that within dummy and all these other files are the wanted *.ko files. But it doesn't exist any archive with all of them in it. Now i could search for every *.ko file and extract it out of dummy, but i don't think this is normal. :/ Could it be that i have to issue some command which produces the modules tar.gz file? Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
When will kernel 2.6.24 be replaced by andy 2.6.28 kernel for better suspend/resume?
Hi all, many mails i read in the kernel mailing list show that newer patches should only be applied to andy-tracking kernel and no more to the old 2.6.24 om kernel. Especially the suspend/resume behaviour seems to be a big problem with the 2.6.24 kernel. I install about once a week a new 2.6.24 kernel in debian but in the last few weeks the suspend behaviour didn't change anymore. I can suspend/resume for short periods within a few hours mostly without problems. But as soon as i suspend/resume for a longer period like 12 or more hours it doesn't work reliable. Many times i got a drained battery after such a long suspend. With every suspend/resume i log the battery loss to a text file which shows that a suspend for such a longer time should be no problem, but it fails about every second time. I read that the suspend/resume behaviour in andy-tracking has been reworked quite a bit. So i want to try the new kernels but at the moment they are not 100% compatible with the userspace tools in the distros. And there is no source for getting a recent 2.6.28 kernel with modules. On [1] the kernel is only rarely updated and the modules package is missing many times. So the question is, when will the default kernel be replaced by the new 2.6.28 andy kernel so that userspace tools could be adapted to it? The not working longer suspend/resume is for me the main problem at the monent with my freerunner. :/ I hope this mail doesn't sound to pessimistic because i really love my freerunner. But i think that the development of the new kernel would get much more feedback if the normal user get the chance to try it without compiling it himself. :) Ciao, Rainer [1] http://people.openmoko.org/andy/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] Speed gps time to firxt fix up?
lollisoft wrote: The answer from Fox was to reinstall gpsd and not fso-gpsd and later he went back. So I tried this and struggled. Fox was also not on the FSO image, but on the Debian with FSO framework. Maybe he could do that but I am not (FSO image). I think bebause of Zhune. Maybe you misunderstood me because i never said to reinstall gpsd and not fso-gpsd. I only said that i was having a hard time with older fso-gpsd but now it works quite good. And i said that you should be sure not to have both installed at the same time. Only fso-gpsd is useable when using the fso-framework. And we both use fso-framework, you with fso-image and me with debian. And therefore the principles for gps configuration are the same. I hope we are now back to a common ground. :) Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] navit: rendering is slow
KaZeR wrote: Hi there, But the problem is that the map is vry slow in 3D mode. I tried it on my pc first and it needed ~5s to drag the map from A to B. I think the problem is that in 3D mode navit still shows all items on the map which results in overfilling at the horizon. I attached a screenshot from my pc which shows the problem. Don't forget that 3D support is really new, and still alpha ;) There are probably a lot of optimizations that can be done, and will be in the next days. Thats nice to hear. Than i would suggest as one big imprrovement to implement a configurable viewdistance for different things in 3D mode. So we can select to which distance the items on the map like fuel stations, churches, etc are shown. And also the longest distance to show the map itself would be helpfull. Keep up the really good work. :) Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community