Re: Kernel 3.x and Freerunner

2014-01-30 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 11:54:40 +0100
Mike Crash m...@mikecrash.com wrote:

 Hello,
 
 last two years I was busy with other private stuff, now I have
 returned to my old projects and also my Neo. I have completely
 rewritten my software and I want to compile it for Neo. But new
 software is not compatible with old kernel (for example udev).
 
 I have tried to boot up Neo and what a surprice, everything works as 2
 years ago. Only battery has half of capacity...
 
 I want to ask if there was some progress in support of Neo Freerunner
 in stock kernel.
There is some support for it in mainline, I'm not sure that it's enough
to suit your usecase, beside patches to fix some gta02-specific issues
or patch that should have been submited to mainline that weren't, some
drivers are not in mainline:
 * The glamo driver.
 * The wifi driver: I've been told that the mainline ath6kl was very
   different from the one in the freerunner, and that it was because
   the firmware of the very early ath6k of the freerunner was very
   different.

 I still use old 2.6.29 with openmoko modifications,
 is it possible to use kernel 3.13?
No idea, you have to try it out, be sure to get a debug board for that:
1) configure(stuff like make ARCH=arm xconfig/menuconfig for instance)
the kernel for the gta02, by looking at the existing configurations of
the lastest kernel
2) compile and run it
3) you'll have no display working at that point, so that's why you
really need the serial console at first.
4) forward-port the patches specific to the GTA02 and the missing
drivers.
In order to have to do it only once, do that with mainlining in mind,
and do use the devicetree. mainline the patches.

 I don't need phone functionality,
 only display,
That requires the glamo, so you'll have to forward port the glamo
driver at least.
 audio
That driver is in mainline, but maybe without devicetree bindings.

 and gps.
Shouldn't be too hard to mainline, assuming you choose the right
framwork for it. if I remember well, it's just some gpio toggling, and
that can even been done in userspace if mainling that is difficult.
 I have looked around, there are some Neo
 stuff in stock kernel, but I don't know, if it is usable.
Last news I have, which is really old, is that SHR had the most recent
kernels in their meta-smartphone layer, but I'm unsure if that's used
or not.

 Please can
 anybody tell me, what's the situation now? Have anybody tried new
 stock kernels?
It depends on what you mean by new, SHR had a more rencent kernel
with almost everything working beside the regulators, which means that
GPS, modem, and wifi had issues.
Since it was just some GPIOs it could have been worked arround in
userspace, like by modifying the fso plugins again.

Denis.


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Re: The open hardware phone project that's had the most interest

2013-10-17 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Sat, 5 Oct 2013 17:19:18 +0200
joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org wrote:

 In the last 50 years I've seen only _one_ truly modular concept for
 electronic circuits that would basically meet the flexibility
 requirements you are asking for: 
 http://makezine.com/2011/12/08/the-braun-lectron-system-retro-circuit-
 dominoes/
 
 /j

The bug device 2.0 from buglabs is modular too.
(The kernel is a bit old though: 2.6.35)

Denis.

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Re: The open hardware phone project that's had the most interest

2013-10-17 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Sat, 05 Oct 2013 17:24:51 +0200
Raphael Wimmer raphael.wim...@ifi.lmu.de wrote:

 * The concept assumes that all components use a common communication  
 backplane. This is not feasible, as a variety of voltages and  
 communication protocols are in use in a typical phone (I2C, SPI,
 UART, USB, various display protocols, etc.). Many components need
 very short connections to the CPU/GPU/whatever without crossing other
 PCB traces. It is not realistic to make this work with a generic
 communication backplane. Proper heat dissipation for CPU/GPU is
 another problem.
Or to use big connectors...that have dedicated pins for all theses
things...like with the bug device 2.0 from buglabs.

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Re: The open hardware phone project that's had the most interest

2013-10-17 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Sat, 05 Oct 2013 15:00:07 -0400
Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote:
 And it would be bulkier and more expensive than a non-modular phone,
 of course.
http://components.arrow.com/part/search/buglabs
The main cost in doing that is the plastic of the modules.

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Re: [Gta04-owner] Invitation to indicate interest in next batch of GTA04A5 boards

2013-04-03 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 08:59:03 +0200
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote:

 
 Am 02.04.2013 um 22:35 schrieb Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli:
 
  On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 11:22:39 +0100
  Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote:
  
  So we unfortunately have to postpone the production of GTA04A5
  boards, until someone manages to create more demand.
  
  This is a little sad, since we now have solved all technological
  problems and could start production anytime (well the longer we
  wait the more components will become EOL and have to be
  substituted).
  
  Anyways we will continue to support the existing GTA04A3/A4 by
  improving the kernel, boot loader etc.
  
  If you have ideas how to stimulate demand, please do
  Yes I've an idea and I'll continue to work on it really soon:
  Port Replicant to that phone.
  
  The current status is that I've a 3.8 kernel booting on it with
  display, input, wakelocks etc(the android stuff)...
  So far adb makes the kernel null pointers at shutdown.
  Also It's highly untested...
 
 Is there some project page? Download link or something.
Since it's not ready yet, there is no official images yet, and the
documentation on the replicant wiki is a bit outdated with reguard to
the GTA04, I prefer to make it usable first.

The repositories for the GTA04 are not even integrated yet in the build
system(people building replicant for the gta04 are expected to git
clone them by hand...).

Note that I will need help from someone having an A4(like paulk for
instance) for doing the Alsa userspace part once the kernel is
complete...

Right now the issue is to permit proper shutdown after using adb...That
is harder than expected because I cannot use kgdb(I've some toolchain
issues with DWARF/debug symbols)

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Re: [Gta04-owner] Invitation to indicate interest in next batch of GTA04A5 boards

2013-04-02 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 11:22:39 +0100
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote:

 So we unfortunately have to postpone the production of GTA04A5 boards,
 until someone manages to create more demand.
 
 This is a little sad, since we now have solved all technological
 problems and could start production anytime (well the longer we wait
 the more components will become EOL and have to be substituted).
 
 Anyways we will continue to support the existing GTA04A3/A4 by
 improving the kernel, boot loader etc.
 
 If you have ideas how to stimulate demand, please do
Yes I've an idea and I'll continue to work on it really soon:
Port Replicant to that phone.

The current status is that I've a 3.8 kernel booting on it with
display, input, wakelocks etc(the android stuff)...
So far adb makes the kernel null pointers at shutdown.
Also It's highly untested...

Before we couldn't even get it booting correctly under replicant 4.0:
or there were some interrupt issue, or there were some touchscreen
isue(that I solved in that 3.8 kernel).

Denis.

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Re: [Gta04-owner] Invitation to indicate interest in next batch of GTA04A5 boards

2013-04-02 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 15:58:10 +0100
Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote:

 I think there might be interest in encrypted GSM calls - those
 customers would be not worried by big price. It's just matter of
 implementing SW for it.
There are several solutions for that but using plain GSM won't work
because of the TRAU(Transcoder and Rate Adaptation Unit) in the GSM
network.
Using data calls directly would be too expensive...

So the best solution is to use encrypted SIP over the internet(like
trough a 3G connection) possibly over a VPN(because some providers
prevent SIP to go trough their networks).

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Re: GTA02 act as gps mouse?

2013-03-17 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
Hi,

I'd also like to use my gta02 as bluetooth GPS with Android(Replicant)
devices.

There is an application for that in FDroid(a free software market/google
play replacement that contains only free software):
http://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdcategory=Navigationfdid=org.broeuschmeul.android.gps.bluetooth.provider
The application is called BlueGPS

I've tried to make an up to date python application for the freerunner
from scratch...

But my application is not reliable at all:
- it can only be closed by a kill (because of the while True: at the
end), I did the while true because rfcomm was not always reliable at
the beginning, maybe I should restest without it...
- bluez is somehow unreliable and it doesn't always find the adapter.

So to use it, install Fdroid, then BlueGPS within Fdroid.
then run my gps script.
Then do that on the freerunner:
wget
http://git.kernel.org/cgit/bluetooth/bluez.git/plain/test/simple-agent?id=910ffb4ca785da71b670bf105e234435c67fd7fe
-O simple-agent
chmod +x simple-agent
./simple-agent

That will permit you to pair it with android...
you'll have to enter a pin on android and in simple-agent...

Denis.#! /usr/bin/env python2

#Copyright (C) 2013  Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli gnu...@no-log.org
#
#This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify
#it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
#the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or
#(at your option) any later version.
#
#This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
#but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
#MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
#GNU General Public License for more details.
#
#You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
#along with this program.  If not, see http://www.gnu.org/licenses/.

import dbus
import os
import subprocess
from dbus.mainloop.glib import DBusGMainLoop
DBusGMainLoop(set_as_default=True)

bus = dbus.SystemBus()

usage_obj = bus.get_object('org.freesmartphone.ousaged', '/org/freesmartphone/Usage')
usage_iface = dbus.Interface(usage_obj, 'org.freesmartphone.Usage')

usage_iface.RequestResource(Bluetooth)
usage_iface.RequestResource(CPU)
usage_iface.RequestResource(GPS)


try:
	pid = subprocess.check_output(pidof bluetoothd, shell=True).replace('\n','')
except:
	os.system(bluetoothd)
	pid = subprocess.check_output(pidof bluetoothd, shell=True).replace('\n','')

print the bluez pid is  + pid

bluez_obj = bus.get_object('org.bluez', /org/bluez/{0}/hci0.format(pid))
bluez_adapter_iface = dbus.Interface(bluez_obj, 'org.bluez.Adapter')

bluez_adapter_iface.SetProperty(Discoverable, True)

while True:
	try:
		os.system(rfcomm watch /dev/rfcomm0 1 sh -c \gpspipe -r  /dev/rfcomm0\)
	except KeyboardInterrupt:
		os.system(killall rfcomm)
		exit(0)
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Re: tizen released

2013-02-18 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 23:44:58 +0800
Paul Wise pa...@bonedaddy.net wrote:
 git repos here:
 
 https://review.tizen.org/git/
was it ported on some real devices beside the emulator?

Denis.


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Re: Stripped down GTA04A5 - interested?

2013-01-22 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 10:18:45 +0100
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote:

 * no Sirf IV GPS receiver (but internal Antenna with GPS receiver
 inside UMTS module will be available)
That's kind of problematic for privacy, with that anti-feature you can
be localized more precisely trough RLLP[1] for instance.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RRLP

Denis.

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Re: [Shr-Devel] silent SMS

2013-01-12 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 16:15:10 +0100
Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote:

 
 Hello,
Hi,
 are such messages signalled by the modem to the software
I don't know in fso, I should try...

But with the luca/catcher branch of
osmocomb you can notice silent SMS with show catcher command.

But the luca/catcher branch is outdated and It didn't work for me, so
checkout origin/master and cherry-pick that patch:
05d3836041595a099c0db975fd6bd855ee12cce1

you also need a recent osmocon in SHR: I'm not even
sure that there is one in the feeds, altough there is one in
meta-smartphone/meta-osmocombb.

Denis.

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Re: [FOSDEM-Devrooms] World of OpenPhoenux

2013-01-08 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 09:27:02 +0100
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote:

 * Replicant software
And a talk about that too.

Denis.

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Re: Would offer my gta04...

2012-12-30 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 13:00:24 +0100
ri...@happyleptic.org wrote:

 ...to someone who think he can contribute something to this project.
 
 I'm too lazy to package and ship it so the hacker would have to live
 near Paris (fr).
 
 I received it many time ago but haven't played with it yet (beside
 installing the MoBo and checking it's working). Let's be honnest,
 I won't have time to dig in this, so it's better if I pass it along.
Which version(A3/A4/A5) is it?

Denis.

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Re: [off-topic] smartphone alternatives?

2012-12-19 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 11:06:01 +0100
cyberesprit cyberesp...@cyberesprit.fr wrote:

 hi!
  
 There may be geeksphones?
 http://www.geeksphone.com/old/en/moviles/zero/
 * The geeksphones(one and zero) require proprietary userspace
   libraries.
 * The geeksphones(one and zero) use a qualcomm System on a chip, which
   means that the sound card, the GPS Are attached to the Modem, not
   to mention the Shared memory(RAM attached on modem and CPU Bus) and
   shared NAND...

Basically it's really bad for freedom.

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Re: [off-topic] smartphone alternatives?

2012-12-19 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 21:28:48 +0100
arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote:

 speaking of the n900: FSO is supposed to support that one and i guess
 SHR would work too. i hope to get another n900 in a near future and
 to be able to test that
Nice, we need help for the Modem-Sound card forwarder, because
currently no one has time to fix it even if it's easy to fix(basically
I've wrote(in code) what needed to be done but it's unfinished...and
sits in branches...).

Apart that GPS protocol is known but unimplemented, bluetooth is broken
in SHR, meego, mer kernels, wifi works, camera probably works(you need
some media-controller userspace commands to make it work, I documented
it on the wiki, I don't remember which one between mplayer or gstreamer
worked with theses commands, but still meego had a gstreamer plugin for
the camera, we didn't package it tough), Audio works, Calls too but
with sound issues, data/3g works, retriving contacts from the sim isn't
implemented, and SMS isn't implemented either...

The modem(and the GPS which is attached to the modem) talks a protocol
called ISI, which is moslty documented by some headers and by ofono
code.

There is also a newer 3.x kernel that should be tried, it's from the
port of Arch(a GNU/Linux distribution) on that phone.

Denis.

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Re: [off-topic] smartphone alternatives?

2012-12-19 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:29:49 +0100
francesco.dev...@mailoo.org wrote:
 But on another mobile system I'm lost, I have to learn it and maybe I 
 don't want to.
Yes android is very different.
 And who assure me that I'm free as I am on a GTA?
I can assure you that you're not as free as on the GTA because the
hardware will have issues.
The closest phone is the GTA04, but it has a non-free wifi firmware.
 - may I have a shell?
In Replicant/Android there is a shell and a GUI for it.
 - may I write a bash script?
there is bash/sh in Replicant/Android.
 - may I control every services on it?
Not in Replicant/Android
 - may I upgrade a single package 
yes, Fdroid supports that.
or the entire system as I want?
You'll have to reflash in Replicant.
 - may I install a software from source?
You can't compile stuff on The target in Replicant, you'll have to use
the SDK on a desktop/laptop computer.
 
 Maybe yes, there are Android and its free fork Replicant and their
 SDKs but I have first to learn it.
Indeed.
 Smartphones are computers, and it makes me crazy that they do not
 work (software side) EXACTLY as my pc.
Yes that's a problem.
 IMHO it would be wonderful to have the same OS on desktop PCs and 
 smarphones, maybe with different software repositories. I'm a Debian 
 user and for me QtMoko is wonderful.
ok.
 So, to sum it up, it makes me nervous to have a new powerful
 smartphone if I cannot do what I want. Following this thought, I
 think the best solution is to have a cheap mobile phone and a
 netbook/tablet with a gnu/linux distro on it.
or to port GNU/Linux on a smartphone that is easy enough, if you're
into that kind of things and if you're skilled enough for that
Or just buy a supported phone, however be sure to ask informations on
the smartphone before buying it to the distro's developers.
 Well... for now I still have my GTA02, I'll have to buy just a cheap 
 phone for GSM and battery emergencies.
 [ If someone could help me for the bass fix I'll be happy to use it, 
 finally, also as an audio player (: ]
Golden delicious did all fixes... 
 The recent news about the GTA04 make me happy, maybe I don't have to 
 wait too long for it.
Yes it's a really good device: it's almost like the GTA02, but faster,
better, less hardware bugs, but also has a non-free wifi firmware.

Denis.

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Re: [off-topic] smartphone alternatives?

2012-12-17 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 17:59:46 +0100
francesco.dev...@mailoo.org wrote:

 Hi list
 Sadly to say, my GTA02 is going to retire. It is having too much 
 troubles to be used as a daily phone and I'm thinking to replace it.
 The perfect candidate is the GTA04 but I can't afford its cost right
 now. I didn't follow with attention the evolution of the smartphones
 market, so I'm asking you: what alternatives do I have? Is there
 something with a recent hardware but somehow open and that costs no
 more than 200€? I have to say that I'm not a big fan of android and
 for now I would prefer to go with a 30€ nokia in the pocket and a
 gnu/linux friendly tablet/netbook on the shoulders waiting for better
 times...
what about a galaxy S(should be cheap enough) with Replicant (Android)?
Else porting GNU/Linux on it shouldn't be too hard if you're skilled
enough with theses kind of things(it's already ported to the Nexus S,
and only lack very little to be usable).

Denis.

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Re: Help needed with GSM Geolocation without GPS

2012-11-06 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 16:01:21 + (UTC)
robin spielr...@web.de wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I wanted to give the GSM location a try. So what I would like to
 acchieve in the end is:
 
 0. GPS off
 1. GSM Cells are detected 
 2. Triangulation takes place (I don't know yet if eg signal strength
 is used) 3. Look-up in the OpenCellID offline (!) text database
 4. Position being shown in NeronGPS as in eg in the
 Whereabouts-Mappingdemo shown on the QtMokoDev Page [1]

Will the result work on SHR or on QtMoko or on both?

Denis.

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Re: Some questions about the freerunne

2012-10-17 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 23:45:54 +0200
Michaël Parchet mparc...@sunrise.ch wrote:

  is there a possibility to add the 3g  and make some phone with
  this ?
Maybe trough USB host but that would eat the battery fast...
  
  Is there a software to reed and edit the opendocument ?
Try abiword, abiword under SHR with the right abiword plugins could do
the trick, else there is debian with openoffice or libreoffice, It may
be ultra-slow under debian tough(because the freerunner is slow and
libreoffice requires a lot of resources.).
  Wat's the antenna quality ? it's good ?
No idea.
  
  There are a software to reed the aac (m4a) and mp3
I guess it depend on the distros, mp3 do work under SHR. I've no idea
for ACC, I guess I should try...
  What's the music format ?
I guess it depend on the distros.
  Whath's the warranty conditions ?
It depend on the seller.
  There is no camera isn't it ?
no camera, unless you add one trough USB host.

PS: get a device from golden delicious if you can, they do all the
hardware fixes:
* #1024 fix (for longer suspend time)
* bassfix (for having correct sound quality on the headset output)
* buzzfix (for not having a buzz during calls,because else you have
  some probability to get it)

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Re: problem with microsd

2012-09-28 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 11:17:30 +0200
Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all.
 I asked on shr user list with no luck.
 I'm using shr-core, I have this problem: the device for the
 microsd is not created, i.e. /dev/mmcblk0p1 does not exist.
 Do you have any fast fix?
 
 This is the problem:
 
 root@om-gta02:~# fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0
 
 Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 7948 MB, 7948206080 bytes
 4 heads, 16 sectors/track, 242560 cylinders, total 15523840 sectors
 Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
 Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
 I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
 Disk identifier: 0x36c4
 
 Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
 /dev/mmcblk0p1204812328959 6163456   83  Linux
 /dev/mmcblk0p21232896015523839 1597440   82  Linux
 swap / Solaris
 
 
 root@om-gta02:~# mount -t ext2 /dev/mmcblk0p1 /media/temp/
 mount: special device /dev/mmcblk0p1 does not exist

see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Supported_microSD_cards and its
paramters (rootwait glamo_mci.sd_max_clk=500 glamo_mci.sd_drive=3
etc...)

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Re: Problems using recent Rogers Wireless (Canada) SIMs in GTA02

2012-09-28 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 07:48:12 +0100
Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote:

 Have you tried the new SIM in any other 2G-only phone? SIMs from 3(UK
 network) seem to work only in 3G-capable devices. I never looked into
 how or why, but it's possible Rogers are doing this with new SIMs
 either by accident or design. 
 
 On Wednesday 26 September 2012 21:53:14 Pascal Gosselin wrote:
  In 2010, we were able to take circa mid-2008 Roger Wireless SIMs
  (Canada) borrowed from an iPhone 3G and get it to work in Android
  Froyo on the GTA02 850Mhz.
  
  Two years later, we decided to add some GPRS reporting capability
  to our Wi-Flight product which is currently using Wi-Fi only, we
  are unable to get a carrier registration at the AT command level
  using two Rogers SIMs (both from 2012, one used in an iPhone 4 and
  the other in a Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket (LTE)).  The GSM
  baseband code was at Moko8 so we had the  fix for bug 666.  We
  tried Moko11 but it didn't make a difference.
  
  We repeated the same Android Froyo setup and indeed it doesn't work
  when we try the circa 2012 SIMs.
What's your setup exactly?
  
  Our product doesn't run on Android, the Froyo stuff was just tried
  to attempt to replicate something that worked before.
  
  I found a working older Rogers full-sized SIM from my GSM-enabled
  alarm system, which I think it at least 3-4 years old.  It worked
  just fine in a Nexus S and I was able to send an SMS and Edge data
  from the phone (it's a T-mobile AWS phone so no 3G on Rogers).
  
  The conclusion so far is that something has changed in the Rogers
  SIMs that makes it incompatible with the GTA02.  I am wondering if
  anyone else has encountered this problem.  I'd be happy to be able
  to get a Fido-branded card to work (haven't tried that yet).
  
  We've repeated the same issue with a half-dozen GTA02s so we're
  pretty sure it's not a one-off phone problem.
Maybe you could try to debug it with simtrace(the hardware for
tracing SIM communications, that is compatible with wireshark 1.8)?

However if it's a problem with the modem firmware it would be hard to
fix, one may think that there is osmocombb, but *selling* phones with
osmocombb preinstalled may not be legal in your jurisdiction(I'm not
a lawyer tough...).

In that case I guess you would need to switch to another GNU/Linux
phone(such as a GTA04, or another phone supported by SHR for
instance,but that means that you'll probably have some availability
issues(you'll need to find a reliable way to get such phone in the
long run...)).

Denis.

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Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-08-03 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Fri, 2012-08-03 at 16:47 +0200, Neil Jerram wrote:
 Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli gnu...@no-log.org writes:
 
  On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 23:13 +0200, Neil Jerram wrote:
  
   - GPS: it seems clear now that it was a mistake to pull that under
  the
 FSO umbrella, and that mobile devices should just use standard gpsd
 instead 
  However I was told that adding support for AGPS and GTA02 UBX would not
  be straingtforward in gpsd.
 
  AGPS is very usefull to save/restore the AGPS data offline in order to
  speedup the fix.
 
  All that works on ogps.
 
 Hmm.  I should probably concede here because I don't know any of the
 details or history.  Technically, however, I'm surprised if there was no
 feasible way of doing this with gpsd.
yes there is, I'm trying to use the hooks right now(I already fixed the
permissions for doing that).

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Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-08-01 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 23:13 +0200, Neil Jerram wrote:
 
  - GPS: it seems clear now that it was a mistake to pull that under
 the
FSO umbrella, and that mobile devices should just use standard gpsd
instead 
However I was told that adding support for AGPS and GTA02 UBX would not
be straingtforward in gpsd.

AGPS is very usefull to save/restore the AGPS data offline in order to
speedup the fix.

All that works on ogps.

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Re: Open GSM firmware - OsmocomBB supports Neo FreeRunner

2012-07-10 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 13:14 +0200, Martix wrote:
 Hi!
 
 There is some GTA02 support in OsmocomBB project. You can flash open 
 source firmware for TI Calypso GSM modem.
 http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/OpenMoko
1) no need to flash it, just load it.
2) flashing doesn't work currently with the calypso of the openmoko
because its flash is not detected.
 
 Did anybody tried this firmware on his Neo FreeRunner? What's your 
 experience? Is it usable with SHR or Qt Moko like old proprietary 
 firmware? Calls, SMS, GPRS, SIM load/store (contacts, SMSs) works? How 
 many successfully flashed devices are here? And how many bricks? ;-)
Calls, SMS, SIM should worktrough the telnet interface...
I'm not sure about the GPRS...

Adding support for osmocombb in FSO is doable, however the big problem
is that the layer 2 and layer 3 of GSM are actually not running on the
calypso but on another CPU(for instance the CPU of a laptop/desktop, or
it could run on the CPU running SHR as well, it only requires to
cross-compile applications such as mobile etc..., it's easy to do).

Why is running the layer 2 and 3 on the calypso CPU important?
Simply because you may want to permit the CPU running SHR to suspend and
to resume when you have a call or an SMS: with the proprietary
firmware(which runs layer 1,2,3 on the calypso) it works that way:
I don't know the exact details but I guess there is an interrupt line
between the modem(calypso) and the CPU.

If the CPU running SHR is suspended and that there is a call, the
calypso, which is not suspended will trigger the wakeup of the CPU
running SHR, the CPU will then wakeup and display that there is a
call,ring and vibrate.

I'm not a GSM protocol specialist yet, but I guess that if you're only
running layer1 on the calypso you have no way to determine if there is
an incoming call. The CPU that can do that is the one running SHR, and
the layer 2 and 3, however if that CPU is suspended it can't know that
there is a call.

A workaround suggested long time ago by someone on IRC would be to wake
up the CPU often and check if there is a call, however that may not be
doable because suspend/resume may take quite some time, and the wakeup
would eat more power etc...

There are 2 ways to solve the problem correctly:
1) help with the port of the GSM applications on top of nuttx:
While the gta02 is supported in nuttx,we were currently focussing on the
c155 with its drivers(such as display,spi,uwire,poweroff etc...)
2) port the layer 2 and 3 to the calypso without the help of nuttx.

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Deseperately need some GTA02 debug board cable...

2012-06-20 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
Hi,

my debug board cable again broke...

With the debug board I was able to send some patches upstream like:
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git;a=commit;h=ad20ff920c1fd217578e2c637dd50c1878a21c06
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git;a=commit;h=b2ccf065f7b23147ed135a41b01d05a332ca6b7e
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git;a=commit;h=b26469a8b139fba11d9336c1c117fafccfa9c7d5
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git;a=commit;h=1ae5cbc52e7c6619a3f44b87809fd25370df31bb

I was also able to produce updated
kernels( https://gitorious.org/shr/linux/commits/shr-2.6.39-nodrm
shr-3.x-nodrm branches ) for the gta02 but I didn't have enough time to
fix all the bugs yet so they are not in use yet...

The big problem is that It's way harder to track bugs without a debug
board cable: with a debug board you can git bisect in a way more
efficient way: you only need to apply a minimal set of patches on top of
the commit you're testing...since you have serial you can see the output
and interact with the phone...

So Instead of finding or buying one debug board each time my cable break
again I think it's way more efficient to get some cables-only.

Does someone gives or sell such cables separately?

Note(for the person selling/giving such cables) that the debug board
itself still can be used separately from an openmoko: it is possible to
use it as a BIOS flasher
( http://flashrom.org/FT2232SPI_Programmer#Openmoko ),serial port
adapter or JTAG adapter...

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Re: [dfu-util] who use it for flashing FR?

2012-05-07 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Monday, May 07, 2012 02:58:24 PM Patryk Benderz wrote:
 Hi all,
 regarding recent discussion on de...@lists.openmoko.org [1] I am asking,
 how many of you are still using dfu-util for flashing your FR's internal
I do but I have not to forget to nand scrub my NAND before booting ( 
http://shr-project.org/trac/ticket/1524 )
 memory?
 I also would like to inform you about new dfu-util release.[2]
thanks.

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Re: Discussion: what are your dreams for the Openmoko Community

2012-04-28 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
 So what are your dreams with respect to open mobile handhelds?
I desesperately want an usable phone for my use case:
1) free software only on the main CPU.
2)reliable telephony:
Without a good SHR forwarder I can't use it at all, even if I forget 
about the other issues.
I also suspect that the CPU is at 1GHz instead of 800Mhz with the 3.2 
kernel in SHR, which makes the CPU overheat when it's at 100% too often which 
makes the phone shut down.

3)music playing in headphones by whatever means(bluetooth or wired, wired 
preferabily):
I still need to resolder correctly my headphones.
I would really like to install SHR on NAND to use my fat32 microsd but 
NAND isn't reliable, it only booted 1 of 2 times last time I tested:
-the time where it doesn't boot I've tons of ECC errors
-no errors at all when it boots fine.

4)reliable browsing without adds:
We(SHR) failed there too:
midori segfaults at startup
eve doesn't support add blocking
chromium doesn't support add-blocking
firefox segfault at startup
links -g segfault at startup

5)as a bonus: the ability to port applications to it(=not android, GNU/Linux 
with an openembedded-based build system, SHR fits it).

6)as a second bonus: people writing cool applications for the device(like 
applications to use the sensor, privacy applications like sms encryption 
etc... basically a bit like what's in FDroid[1])

So beause of the forwarding issue I'm back to the gta02 even if it has 
suspend/resume issue(big issues).
Qtmoko wasn't really usable for me either(the volume is not loud enough for 
Italy(very noisy country)) so when I tried it I couldn't ear a thing from the 
remote person.

 What would you like as future hardware?
I just need an usable smartphone, I don't care that much about the hardware 
but an n900-like device(800x480 screen resolution and orientation+a keyboard) 
would be nice because it would make software fit better on the screen.
Since we don't have the manpower to fix all software to fit on the gta04 
screen, 
why not adapt the phone instead?
some games(wesnoth,supertux etc...) work well with 800x480, and many 
applications were ported to that resolution for  the eeepc701.

 What to see in software
 distros? Anything else? 
 What missing piece are you waiting for?
A forwarder and more implications from the SHR developers that are away and 
will come back one day(tm).

The lack of implication from some SHR developers(not all:
some like Martin Jansa really do a good job, Simon Busch also do a very good 
job even if he's only a freesmartphone.org developper now) really annoyed me 
up to the point to made me quit SHR officially:
things didn't advance fast enough, and no one was there for helping me in some 
difficult tasks like the forwarding, which made me frustrate more and also take 
even more work, which creates a burn out... which makes people quit.
The quiting had a huge effect the week, everybody was on IRC and really worked 
on SHR and FSO, after but this week is kind of dead with only the usual 
minimal set of SHR developers(Martin Jansa)

I really wonder what to domaybe I should work on the forwarder again

Denis.

[1] http://fdroid.org/

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Re: what to with 02 when upgrading to 04? was: Re: How to bring forward the community?

2012-03-05 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
It may not be that complicated, but it is morally wrong.  It is
morally wrong to help or support someone who is guilty of hoarding the
good code and denying it to the public.
so proprietary software(calypso source code is not free software) is morally 
good and free software(osmocombb and nuttx/nuttx-bb is free software) is 
morally wrong?

And note that even if they had part of the source, and that's not enough.
you want full source code and usually companies modifying the firmware 
basebands like openmoko don't have access to that.
but osmocom-bb is maybe inefficent righ now(I'm working on fixing that )
but at least you have full source code of layer 1, layer 2, layer 3
you can do calls, sms etc...with it.
you have even forks to detect if there are spying equipement connected to the 
network etc...
you can get a real estimation of the RSSI and findout if the levels are too low 
and calling is dangerous...

if you don't like contributing to osmocom-bb maybe you could contribute to fso 
and make it use osmocom-bb telnet interface for layer23?

And about Harald Welte, you forget that he spent a lot of time studying GSM 
protocols, standards, writing the osmocom-bb code and he released that under a 
free software license with full source code, isn't that great?
but you seem to prefer proprietary source code.

Also, note that the non-free source code may be big, who would review it for 
backdoors? how would you compile it without non-free software? nobody would 
contribute to it etc...

The only usefullness of proprietary source code is as a documentation to 
produce free source code.

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Re: what to with 02 when upgrading to 04? was: Re: How to bring forward the community?

2012-03-04 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
- what's so hackable about the calypso fw? as far as i recall, it was a  
major afford to get an updated fw and make it flashable. and how much less  
hackable is the new gsm chip's fw?
Well, you can run osmocom-bb or nuttx on it.

for instance with nuttx:
root@om-gta02:~# /etc/init.d/dbus-1 stop
Stopping system message bus: dbus.
root@om-gta02:~# /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm stop
Stopping XServer
root@om-gta02:~# osmocon -i 13 -m romload -p /dev/ttySAC0 nuttx.bin 
[...]
open a new shell and type:
echo 0 /sys/bus/platform/devices/gta02-pm-gsm.0/power_on
echo 1 /sys/bus/platform/devices/gta02-pm-gsm.0/power_on
Then on the first shell you see:
Preparing block 63, block checksum is 0xec 
handle_write_block(): 1024 bytes (1024/1024)
handle_write_block(): Block 63 finished
Received block ack from phone
Preparing the last block, filling 616 bytes, block checksum is 0x75 
handle_write_block(): 1024 bytes (1024/1024)
handle_write_block(): Block 64 finished
Finished, sent 64 blocks in total
Received block ack from phone
Sending checksum: 0x42 
Checksum on phone side matches, let's branch to your code
Branching to 0x0082
Received branch ack, your code is running now!

NuttShell (NSH)

then with a python script you can interact with the shell:
root@om-gta02:~# ./loadwriter.py 
help
which produces:
nsh help
NSH command forms:
  [nice [-d niceness]] cmd [ file| file] []
OR
  if cmd
  then
[sequence of cmd]
  else
[sequence of cmd]
  fi
Where cmd is one of:
  [ expression ]
  ?
  cat path [path [path ...]]
  cp source-path dest-path
  dd if=infile of=outfile [bs=sectsize] [count=sectors] 
[skip=sectors]
  echo [string [string...]]
  exec hex-address
  exit
  free
  help
  kill -signal pid
  losetup [-d dev-path] | [[-o offset] [-r] dev-path file-path]
  ls [-lRs] dir-path
  mb hex-address[=hex-value][ hex-byte-count]
  mkfifo path
  mh hex-address[=hex-value][ hex-byte-count]
  mw hex-address[=hex-value][ hex-byte-count]
  ps
  sh script-path
  sleep sec
  test expression
  usleep usec
  xd hex-address byte-count

Builtin Apps:

Alternatively you can run a loader, a hello world, a rss firmware, a 
layer1(with layer23 running on the samsung SOC) firmware etc

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Re: what to with 02 when upgrading to 04? was: Re: How to bring forward the community?

2012-03-04 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
However, my work on building a Totally Illegal Phone
That points nowhere.
I think you should instead try to go the legal way, 
so you can't be attacked in court,
because it's way too easy to attack you if you do something illegal.
Theses companies have a lot of lawyers and spend a lot on it.

The way to go is to improve nuttx port on calypso phones.
it's not that complicated.
Now it runs on the calypso of the freerunner(and on other phones too).

so please instead of attacking the openmoko people which points nowhere( they 
won't give you the source, they could have given it to you already if they 
wished but they didn't. so I guess they don't want to and will never give you 
theses sources), do something productive and join us in making osmocom-bb 
usable(by improving the nuttx port on calypso and then porting osmocom-bb on 
top of it).

so instead of waisting time on useless things, please join us.

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Re: Looking for a GPS only distribution for Freerunner

2012-02-14 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
So, I'm looking for someone already working on a project like this:
selecting and configuring the right tools for converting a FreeRunner
in a raw in-car GPS.
Why not making a GPS-only image, for instance in the SHR distribution.
it's just a mather of selecting the right packages to put in the images and 
waiting(a very very long time) for it to compile.

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Re: [Gta04-owner] QtMoko v38 for GTA04 with suspend and GSM calls

2012-01-31 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
hi, 
how did you get suspend working reliabily?
personally I've that:
[  406.115966] platform l3_main.0: LATE power domain suspend
   
[  406.121612] platform iva.0: LATE power domain suspend
   
[  406.126892] platform mpu.0: LATE power domain suspend
   
[  406.132171] omap_l3_smx omap_l3_smx.0: LATE power domain suspend 
   
[  406.138458] reg-dummy reg-dummy: LATE suspend
   
[  406.143035] PM: late suspend of devices complete after 682.739 msecs 
   
[  406.149688] Checking wakeup interrupts   
   
[  406.876373] Successfully put all powerdomains to target state
   
[  406.882507] reg-dummy reg-dummy: EARLY resume
   
[  406.887115] omap_l3_smx omap_l3_smx.0: EARLY power domain resume 
   
[  406.893402] platform mpu.0: EARLY power domain resume

[  406.898681] platform iva.0: EARLY power domain resume
   
[  406.903961] platform l3_main.0: EARLY power domain resume  

Should the userspace suspend/resume work in a way that is similar to 
android(but in userspace):
The display would be powered off etc and the phone would try to suspend all 
the time and would fully resume when he get a good reason to do so(like a 
phone call or an user pressing the resume button).

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Re: [Gta04-owner] [FOSDEM] Third call for sessions for the FOSDEM cross-distribution miniconference

2011-12-23 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
and the other one describing the state of the ports.
I guess I'll have to be part of the talk since I'm the one that knows all the 
ports,
But that doesn't necessarly means that I would be the only one involved in 
that, I think we should involve all the people doing ports.

By the way, what about also doing a talk on how to port a new device to 
FSO+SHR?

Denis.

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Replicant for GTA04? (Was WebOS for GTA04?)

2011-12-18 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
After HP announced to open source WebOS I wonder
what we need to get it onto a GTA04 device?

And is there already a clear picture how completely
the source will be opened? Under which licence?
And which limitations? Which timeframe?

Questions over questions... Let's discuss answers...
Why not porting Replicant to it too?

Replicant is a fully free android version:
 * The non-free low level libraries are replaced by free equivalents
 * The market is replaced by FDroid

When I was involved in it we freed some devices like the htc dream and the 
nexus one but we then realized that the devices themselves were the problem:
The modem in theses device had too much power(it controlled the sound card, 
the GPS and could read/write on RAM of the main CPU).

So then the current main developer ported the nexus S to it which is way 
better:
* The audio codec is attached to the main CPU
* the GPS is attached to the main CPU
* The modem can't read/write the RAM of the main CPU and cannot read/write the 
NAND either
however it suffer from a proprietary and partially signed bootloader.

The GTA04 has none of theses freedom problems...

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Re: [OT] HP contributes webOS software to the open source community

2011-12-12 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
For me SHR or QTMoko should takes the card metaphor idea. It is really THE
thing for me + the gesture handling, and both can be taken.

I personally would love to be able to adapt these in Enlightenment.

It's already done in elfe but requires a 24 or 32bit framebuffer.
*)enable elfe and disable illume-home
*)enable compositing
*)bind the key for switching to the card mode
*)press that key

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Re: GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-12-02 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
What is the status of the GTA04 graphics chip implementation. I have 
done a lot of work on the GTA02 with my graphics based apps, and the 
main issue for me is the very poor graphics performance with the chip in 
use on that platform. I run the apps over the USB link to any PC using 
X, and the performance of the app is quite satisfactory. On the GTA02 
screen itself, its very poor to the extent that its not useful.

Is the new board using the same graphics interface, or can the new board 
do some reasonable level of smooth display and animation?
First xf86-video-omapfb has XV acceleration,
Then it seem that the display depth is 32bit, which permits software 
compositing in enlightenment.

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Re: [SHR] distro upgrade

2011-11-23 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
Because my problem is that my lock button is broken. So, to reflash, I 
have to open the phone and manually make contact, which is quite 
difficult for a clumsy man.
why not booting on microsd and then flashing from there?

Denis.

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Re: GTA02 fails to charge

2011-10-02 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Thu, 2011-09-29 at 19:52 -0400, Brian wrote:
 On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 16:50:33 -0500
 Cristian Gómez cristianp...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I have a doubt about this because my FreeRunner only lasts 1 day
  charged and I want to use it more now, I read this thread and like
  Ivan, the first thing that comes to my mind is: new battery, do you
  know what models of batteries works fine with FreeRunner (let's say
  Nokia's 1100 or so)??
  
  Thanks in advance
 
  
 You can use some of the common Nokia batteries with caveats.
 Details can be found here:
 
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Battery_Questions_and_Answers#Hardware_capabilities
 
 You'll need to use the dumb battery kernel module as well. Instructions
 for that are on the same page. I've used BL-6C/5C/4C Nokia batteries
 without problems but as the wiki suggests don't trust the capacity
 when it starts getting low.
I've tried it, and on SHR it works out of the box, however only the
kernel supports charging the battery, not the bootloader, so I need the
original battery for flashing it trough the NOR uboot.

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Re: phone extraction device

2011-10-02 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Sun, 2011-10-02 at 04:12 +0200, Rashid wrote:
 You may have heard about the Cellebrite cell phone extraction device
 (UFED) in the news lately. It gives law enforcement officials the
 ability to access all the information on your cell phone within a few
 short minutes.
 
 http://translogic.aolautos.com/2011/04/29/police-device-used-to-steal-your-cell-phone-data-during-traffic/
 
 Does it work at free runners too? (Well a debug board could probably do
 it but hey).
I guess no one got one to test...

PS: I wonder what's the relation between rooting a phone and that
device(does the device need to root the phone to gather certain
informations?).

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Re: Liberated Calypso docs found

2011-09-28 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
 1. Acting on the authority of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the
Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and the decrees of V. I. Lenin,
declare TI's copyright on the ware to be null and void in the USSR
jurisdiction
Not a good idea, see http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/pirate-party.html

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Re: Liberated Calypso docs found

2011-09-28 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 18:23 +, Michael Sokolov wrote:
 Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought OsmocomBB still runs GSM
 layers 2 and 3 on the external host, not on the Calypso itself, right?
 And no in-call handover yet, no SMS yet, probably nothing even close
 to
 deep sleep mode yet...  I would love to be proven wrong on this
 though. 
 * there was an abandoned port of nuttx, a microcontroller OS(better
call it executive environment). if you want a drop-in replacement it may
be the way to go, you would also need to write an AT interpreter...
 * you could try to cross compile it for running it on the ARM samsung
SOC...(did you try already to make a call with it? (you would need to
activate the transmit feature for that(activating that breaks the law
since you would need regulatory aproval, and it lacks it, consult a
lawyer for more information...), but since you don't care about the
law)

Personally I think I'll go the legal way, with the GSM test license and
the USRP, but I'm not sure it's really needed in order to get nuttx
running on it, and I've not decided yet if I'll do it(since SHR needs
some love too).
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Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Boot speed comparison

2011-09-21 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
 BTW: David has reported that the original QtMoko rootfs image does boot and 
 allows to
 do some useful things on the GTA04. So it does not appear difficult to adapt 
 a real and full
 QtMoko (or SHR or hackable:1 or ...) release for the GTA04.
I wrote a porting guide for SHR(we also have one for android phones
specificities...)
it's here:
http://www.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Device%20Porting%20Guide

So everyone is welcome to port SHR to it and to improve the guide(it's
rather minimalist right now)

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Re: Writing my own Free Plain Phone sw distro for GTA02

2011-09-18 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
 In order words, the phone functionality I am after is what people would
 call a dumb phone, or I prefer to call it a Plain Phone to use a more
 neutral / non-derogatory term.
feature phone is also non-derogatory and means exacty the same thing
 Learning motivation: that's the biggest one for me.  I am a knowledge
 freak.  I want to know, know, know.
check out the wiki, there is explanation on how the hardware works
there...
 
 I realize that I will unfortunately have to treat the Calypso GSM block
 as a black box.  If I had a spare million dollars laying around, I could
 probably find an ex-Openmoko-Inc employee whom I could bribe for an
 illegal copy of the 3 missing schematic sheets and of whatever mix of
 partial source and linkable binary/object modules I'm guessing they must
 have had for the Calypso firmware: still not stellar, but better than
 what the community currently possesses, which is a block diagram on
 schematic page 14 and a fully-built FW image.  But I don't have a spare
 $1M laying around, so that is probably not an option. :-(
learn about osmcombb, however it's not a drop-in replacement as it lacks:
*an AT command interpreter part(however they have an abandoned nuttx
port)
*any kind of certification needed for connecting to carrier networks
 But even with the GSM modem being a black box sequestered behind a serial
 port,
still that's not so bad, the GSM modem doesn't control the CODEC(the
sound card) nor the GPS.

 As a more concrete example, I don't want my UI to use either GTK or Qt,
 and in fact I don't want any pre-existing UI code period: I want to
 design and implement my own UI 100% myself.  My UI design will be rather
 monolithic, centering around Plain Phone functionality: making and
 receiving plain old voice calls on the GSM network, receiving, replying
 to and composing SMS, managing contacts, and that's about it.  (*No*
 apps or the like.)  I will implement my Plain Phone UI in plain C
 using just libX11, no GTK or Qt, because that's my programming comfort
 zone.
too bad because there was already a feature-phone distro called aurora,
but its GUI is in QT(using the framebuffer), but yet very basic.
 I also don't like dbus: too modern for my taste.  Hence I will need to
 implement my own version of gsmd that doesn't depend on dbus or any
 other infrastructural backbone of a modern Linux distro.
too bad that rules out freesmartphone, which is a great hardware
abstraction layer. if you would use freesmartphone you could have
written the GUI quickely enough to make it a reality.
 1. Learn the process for loading new code images into the phone, build a
very basic rootfs image (using the techniques and principles from my
HEClinux-am3517 project) that does nothing other than allow an ssh
root login over the USB port, load it, get it to boot (debug board
with serial console bring-out for the win!) and get the USB login
to work.  Try doing it with the battery removed (USB power only) if
possible.
just read the wiki for that.
 2. Write the first inklings of the battery charger daemon: minimal power
management code to enable battery charging and control the USB
current draw limiter.  Charge the battery and see it boot w/o USB
power.
battery charging is done in the kernel.
 3. Write the first minimal gsmd.  Have it save incoming SMS in an
airlog file with no UI.  Try placing an outbound call or sending
an SMS from the command line (from the shell accessed via USB port
login session).
 4. Write the bottom layer of my own UI, roughly taking the place of the
X11 window manager.  Have the userland display *something* on the LCD.
why not using framebuffer directly?

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Re: osmocombb?

2011-08-26 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Friday, August 26, 2011 02:42:33 pm Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
 Benjamin Deering ben_deer...@swissmail.org writes:
  Has anyone tried this open source calypso firmware on their freerunner
  yet? http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/
 
 Not many of us have our own base station yet and afaik it is not legal
 to use osmocombb in a public network.
Also, it's not a drop-in replacement currently.
layer23 runs on a computer(be it your laptop or the samsung SOC of the 
freerunner...) and it doesn't have an AT interpreter(instead it's an 
interactive command line interface).

altough they have a port of an RTOS named nuttx for the calypso, however no 
one are working on it anymore...so maybe someone should continue that work...

Note that I didn't try it yet(I'm will work to get the money to buy an USRP + 
A test license to try it )

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Re: GTA04 hardware suggestion and discussions : 802.11n dual-band+Bluetooth+FM transceiver (Broadcom BCM4329)

2011-02-09 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
Bcm4329. Driver has some issues...dichiara as :
*Androidi specific driver
*No cfg80211
*can have wext...but no standard scanning

Denis
Sentire from a mobile device

Glenn glenn.mh...@gmail.com ha scritto:

Another hardware suggestion for GTA04Ax: This chip could be a candidate for 
dual-band wi-fi (2,4 and 5,4GHz), Bluetooth and FM transceiver: Broadcom 
BCM4329: 
http://www.broadcom.com/products/Bluetooth/Bluetooth-RF-Silicon-and-Software-Solutions/BCM4329
 Quote: ... The BCM4329 also utilizes advanced design techniques and process 
technologies to reduce active and idle power consumption and extend battery 
life. ... # Broadcom's most integrated 65 nm single-chip combo device with 
single-band (2.4 GHz) 802.11b/g/n or dual-band (2.4 GHz and 5 GHz) 
802.11a/b/g/n, plus Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR and FM receiver and transmitter 
features ... # Full featured, on-chip Power Management Unit supporting direct 
battery (2.3V to 5.5V) connection ... Broadcom - VoIP Android Tablet Support: 
http://www.thesearethedroids.com/2010/02/09/broadcom-voip-android-tablet-support/
 Quote: ... As part of the Mobile World Congress demonstrations next week, 
Broadcom is also showcasing Android support across a range of
other solutions including: ... Multi-chip Android support in a consumer 
multimedia tablet device based on the BCM11211 VoIP processor and leverages the 
BCM1181 for multimedia processing, the BCM4329 for Bluetooth and Wi-Fi, and the 
BCM4750 for GPS. ... Search: 
http://www.google.dk/search?q=linux+BCM4329+driver 
http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-wireless/msg43910.html Quote: ... In case 
you haven't seen this yet, Broadcom has an open (!) driver on the Android git 
tree with support for SDIO/SPI for bcm4329. 
http://tinyurl.com/broadcom-android-bcm4329 [ 
http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/system/wlan/broadcom.git;a=tree ] The 
commit log entry dated 2009-10-29 states: Linux WLAN driver for BCM4329 - 
Low-Power 802.11n with Bluetooth(R) 2.1+ EDR and FM (Tx and Rx) ... 
http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-wireless/msg43951.html Quote: ... While 
this driver is currently used for Android, there is nothing that precludes its 
use on non-Android flavors of Linux. ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699135 Quote: ... Looking 
through the teardown from iFixit.com, the EVO has the same Wifi/Bluetooth chip 
as the Nexus 1 and Droid Incredible: BCM4329 ... Froyo has it ... BCM4329: 
http://theiphonewiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=BCM4329 Quote: ... This is the 
radio chip that is being used in the iPod touch 3G, iPad, iPhone 4, iPod touch 
4G, and Apple TV 2G. ... Network World, 09/11/2009, 11n Wi-Fi chip discovered 
in new iPod Touch: 
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/091109-ipod-touch-broadcom.html Citat: 
... The new Apple iPod Touch uses a Wi-Fi chip that can support the 
just-approved high-throughput 802.11n standard, though Apple apparently has not 
switched on the cranked-up wireless link. The single chip combines 802.11n with 
802.11abg, Bluetooth, and FM radio. It runs in both the 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz 
bands. Full details are in the company's data sheet for the chip. ... Maybe 
there is already an Ipod Touch 11n wi-fi driver:
http://www.rockbox.org/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockbox What is Rockbox? 
Why should I use it?: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/WhyRockbox Freemyipod: 
http://www.freemyipod.org/ December 9, 2008 Broadcom introduces combo 802.11n 
chip: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-10119038-94.html - 
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f10/wifi-support-need-wpa2-7116/index2.html 
Quote: ... Android doesn't support WPA2 Enterprise. You need wifihelper to TRY 
if it works. I have the same issue, my university uses WPA2 enterprise... no 
luck connecting... ... Download wifi Helper from the Android Market by Fan 
Zhang. Use it to setup your wpa_supplicants file; engineering mode requires the 
Pro version (at 0.99 USD, it's worth it...) If you experience problems scanning 
for networks (this happened to me upon first installation)... make sure you 
have set Allow Always when wifiHelper asks for root permissions while 
running, and double check your configuration by using Manage Configurations, 
and
re-enter if necessary after setting the Allow Always permissions. ... - 
BCM4329 test: April 21, 2010 iPad WiFi Woes - Myth or Reality?: 
http://www.padgadget.com/2010/04/21/ipad-wifi-woes-myth-or-reality/ Quote: ... 
To keep it simple, we mainly focused on signal quality, as well as the average 
download speed the devices could sustain. ... # iPad (WiFi-only model): iPhone 
OS 3.2, 16GB Flash, WiFi via Broadcom BCM4329XKUBG (basically a BCM4322AG with 
Bluetooth support, driver version unknown) ... Results Signal Strength Let's be 
clear, the iPad performed decently, but performance was not on par with the 
MacBook and the HP Tablet PC. First things first, range. It is obvious that the 
iPad's WiFi range is limited compared to the other devices, very likely due to 
the fact that the Wifi 

Re: GTA04 hardware suggestion and discussions : 802.11n dual-band+Bluetooth+FM transceiver (Broadcom BCM4329)

2011-02-07 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Sat, 2011-02-05 at 09:18 +0100, Glenn Moeller-Holst wrote:
 9th January 2011, Bcm4329 driver source code:
 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=906628
 Quote: ...
 I tried many ways, last modified module name, unexpectedly 
 successful, it is funny. 
I wouldn't go for an android driver,
That driver doesn't have cfg80211.
It has only WEXT, and WEXT scanning(iwlist eth0 scan) doesn't work
because the scanning method is non-standard(iwpriv)

It could be modified to support scanning, but then what if a stack like
SHR or FSO start depending on libnl for wifi?

I think other drivers like wl1271 are better, they should be more
standard as they are integrated in the linux kernel.
wl1271 even supports AP mode.

wl1271 also has a redistributable firmware now.
From Kconfig:

CONFIG_WL12XX:

This module adds support for wireless adapters based on TI wl1271 and
TI wl1273 chipsets. This module does *not* include support for wl1251.
For wl1251 support, use the separate homonymous driver instead.


Does the chip need to have android support too?

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Re: [Shr-Devel] some advertising

2011-01-15 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
 I did a video as well, showing my new dual-booting solution called Bootr:
 http://vimeo.com/18744450
 
 With Bootr you can switch between WebOS and SHR at bootup.
 Bootr lives here: https://github.com/slyon/bootr
I tried really hard to see this video,
I tried :
*viewing with gnash
*using some download website that were suspicious:
**some require java
**some wants you to install some toolbars
*using cclive
*using cclive from git(didn't compile)
*using greasemonkey(greasemonkey extension was unavailable due to
website issues)
*using grease monkey again(when it became available again) with
http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/56677
It displayed a bar but clicking on it shown a page with the following
written:
  Technical Difficulties
  Whoops! We are having some technical difficulties, please try again in
a minute. 

So is there a way to view that video without installing the non-free
flash player?

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Re: some advertising

2011-01-12 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 16:38 +0100, Sylvain Paré wrote:
 :)
 you are welcome for the .ogg! the cons is that I can't know how many
 personne did look the video as I only have a counter on vimeo.
 (only html code on my personnal page...)
count me as viewer of the ogg version.

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Re: gestures (on SHR)

2011-01-07 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
I can't seem to get past the initial make the gesture after selecting a 
model and pressing the train button. 
I've the same issue.
 Should the frontend still function as described in the wiki?
 I started looking into the underlying scripts, but haven't found the start 
 or end yet.
 The library is still under heavy construction all the time...
???
The program for the gestures is named accelges and it's rather the
contrary,and it seem that that program is not mained anymore.

It would be nice to have it working again.

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Re: [e-users] Someone is trying to patent Quickwriting

2010-11-21 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Sun, 2010-11-21 at 16:24 +0100, Daniele Ricci wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 15:41, Dave Andreoli d...@gurumeditation.it wrote:
  Yeah , ABSOLUTELY!! What can we do to stop this patent? 8pen
  is EXACTLY the same as quikwriting. what can we do? are you
  involved in the quikwriting project? did you contact them?
 
  DaveMDS
 
 
 I contacted the 8pen company: just one reply and that's it. They're
 not responding any more. Probably they think they're in a bad
 position.
 I also sent a mail to prof. Perlin, the quickwriting creator, no reply.
 
 What about FSF?
What about SFLC?

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Re: Another so suitable for freeruner?

2010-11-09 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 20:45 +0100, David Lanzendörfer wrote:
 I'm sure GNUtoo will be pleased to do this too, as soon
 as he got a new OpenMoko. 
I've already one,
I do not need 2 freerunner for this project.
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Re: [GTA04] When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing

2010-10-30 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
 Sean has given us a very important learning: we should use catalog components 
 (e.g. DigiKey,
 Farnell, Mouser, RS-Components) as good as possible. Unfortunately they don't 
 have a
 smartphone case.
Maybe you can find one here:
http://www.gizmoforyou.net/site/shop/gizmos/computing/flow/flow-g1-5.html

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Re: Openmoko on Wikipedia

2010-10-29 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 10:27 +0200, Eric Ehlers wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I added a new section (2.5) to the Openmoko page on wikipedia in an  
 attempt to reflect the latest status of the project:
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openmoko
I also think that the history is a bit short, but I don't know enough to
complete it.
For instance, I think it was the first commercial free phone. but I
don't know when exactly the gta01 and gta02 were commercialized.
I also wonder if it's the first commercial phone(or not) that permitted
the installation of native applications(I wonder if the app store for
the iphone came before or after the openmoko)
It would be nice to have more info, because else it would be
forgetten...

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Re: Freerunner - small and fast distribution only for GPS

2010-08-30 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 16:03 +0200, Carsten Gerlach wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Am Samstag 28 August 2010 schrieb Timo Juhani Lindfors:
  I don't really see the point in having a yet another
  distribution. Just take an existing distribution and configure it to
  fit this task. Optionally contribute back some new packages.
  
  Configuring a system for GPS-only use is an interesting challenge.
  
  1) The filesystem probably should be read-only so that you can turn
  the power off at any time, right?
  
  2) The only volatile part of the filesystem would then be the gps
  tracks?
 
 Yes of course, you are right, maybe there is no need for a new distro, a 
 modification of a existing one can work. But when we come to your mentioned 
 read-only filesystem, then I dont't know if it is possible only by 
 configuring? And what is with all the drivers for wifi, USB, GSM and so on 
 which are not needed? Can we do this without compiling a new kernel?
 
 Ok, my first test would be to take an existing distro and remove all 
 packages, 
 which I don't need. Then we will see...
 
 What would be a good starting distro? I would take SHR, but maybe another 
 would be better?
 
 Greetings, Carsten
maybe use SHR as distro or derive from it and make a custom and new
image.

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Re: Freerunner - small and fast distribution only for GPS

2010-08-29 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
 Hi,

 Am Samstag 28 August 2010 schrieb Timo Juhani Lindfors:
 I don't really see the point in having a yet another
 distribution. Just take an existing distribution and configure it to
 fit this task. Optionally contribute back some new packages.

 Configuring a system for GPS-only use is an interesting challenge.

 1) The filesystem probably should be read-only so that you can turn
 the power off at any time, right?

 2) The only volatile part of the filesystem would then be the gps
 tracks?

 Yes of course, you are right, maybe there is no need for a new distro, a
 modification of a existing one can work. But when we come to your
 mentioned
 read-only filesystem, then I dont't know if it is possible only by
 configuring? And what is with all the drivers for wifi, USB, GSM and so on
 which are not needed? Can we do this without compiling a new kernel?

 Ok, my first test would be to take an existing distro and remove all
 packages,
 which I don't need. Then we will see...

 What would be a good starting distro? I would take SHR, but maybe another
 would be better?
Maybe:
*take SHR or derives from it in openembedded,
*create a new lighter image.


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Re: WikiReader sales and the future of Openmoko

2010-08-22 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
 And if it frees up
 developer resources to doing just hardware and kernel support by not
 doing a huge effort like OE-based Om2007.2/Om2008/Om2009 on the
 software distribution, I'm all for it.
hmmm.
on htcdream, having something half-usable was so hard...
for instance:
No alsa driver shipped with the android kernel.
Thanks to codeaurora/qualcomm for writing an alsa driver...but I spent
countless hours trying to debug it(with printks)...
At the end it worked but it was far from easy.
wifi(we spent a long time looking at kernel config),GPS(I was only a
tester/dumper),real-suspend(the offending commit was found by alain2210
after a very long git bisect) etc
each thing to make work was hard...(but in another hand I'm a kernel newbie)

Thanks to leviathan,mickeyl,alain2210,phh,Thingol etc... for the help!!!
now it's a lot more usable, and I look forward for:
*GPS integration in FSO(should be done very soon)
*fix the remaining buffer underruns in alsa(fix avaliable but I wasn't
able to make it work)
*keyboard mapping
*wifi PSM
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Re: Openmoko Beagle Hybrid

2010-05-17 Thread GNUtoo
On Mon, 2010-05-17 at 13:05 +0200, Joachim Steiger wrote:
 also there are limitations of what you can do with which each
 production-method:
 * e.g. for reprap-alikes, all overhangs  45deg need support
 structures.
 * milling in 3axis means you can only 'mill from e.g. above'.. to turn
 it to the side you already need a trick/mechanical help to mount it
 sideways, without loosing alignment, or a 4 or 5 axis mill (i don't
 think there is any free toolpath-gen for that yet)
 * laser cutting heavily depend on used materials and is basically '2d
 only' for the affordable machines (50keuro)
 this means designs consist out of 2d shapes.
 one 'stacks' afterwards or uses creative mounting methods to hold the
 shaped sheets together, like e.g. on the cupcake-cnc (makerbot) 
What about that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4Yq3glEyec
not sure how much it cost tough.
Also not as free as cupcake or makerbot.

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Re: SHR : fullscreen mode for applications ?

2010-05-13 Thread GNUtoo
On Wed, 2010-05-12 at 20:51 +0200, Xavier Cremaschi wrote:
 Runner distribution (kudos !) made me want to play chess again, 
 so I installed xboard/gnuchess on my SHR.
 
 But because of the enlightenment top shelf, the board is not as big
 as 
 possible (it's bigger in GameRunner).
 
 Do you have any idea to launch a software in fullscreen mode/always
 on 
 top ? I know it's possible, tangogps has a fullscreen mode.
 
 Thanks in advance, 
simply bind the power key to fullscreen in illume settings

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Re: GameRunner distribution

2010-05-01 Thread GNUtoo
On Sat, 2010-05-01 at 17:45 +0200, Frank Meier wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I've tested your distri.
 But for most games I get a only white screen with yellow/green
 fragments. Other games didn't start
 
 Greets
 
 Frank
you used the wrong kernel(the one in rootfs)
you should use the one that should be downloaded separately.

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Re: GameRunner distribution

2010-04-29 Thread GNUtoo
On Thu, 2010-04-29 at 11:05 -0700, Rafael Ignacio Zurita wrote:
 Hello,
 
   GameRunner is an Openmoko Linux distribution. It aims convert
 the Freerunner open mobile phone in a Linux-based handheld
 game console.
 It is simple, and contains cool and suitable open source games for 
 Linux mobile devices.
Great idea!!!
But I would prefer to just:
opkg install task-gamerunner under SHR,or shr-gamerunner images.

A big issue is that I was unable to remove frame pointer under a recent
kernel...
and frame pointer says:

CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER:

If you say Y here the resulting kernel image will be slightly
larger and slower, but it gives very useful debugging information
in case of kernel bugs. (precise oopses/stacktraces/warnings)

If I remember well on htcdream that had huge performances impact
(from unusable midori to usable)


By the way we have some games in openembedded and maybe SHR:
*battle for wesnoth 
*xboard + gnuchess and/or phalanx(for beginners)
*mokomaze
*pingus
*scummvm
*numpty physics
*supertux
*etc
just grep for game in openembedded

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Re: player

2010-04-08 Thread GNUtoo
On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 07:29 -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Thomas Zimmermann m...@vdm-design.de wrote:
  We are currently trying to stablize SHR, and intone (mplayer) isn't part of
  our milestone 1. Because of that it's not getting that much attention from 
  us.
  I think the correct solution would be to compile mplayer with alsa support. 
  To
  workaround the oss problem you can install alsa-oss and then use aoss to 
  start
  intone. Or install kernel-modules-snd-oss, but i think there were some
  problems with oss kernel modules installed...
 
  But there can also be a problem in intone that it doesn't work with newer E.
 
 not intone, simply command line mplayer [filename] in the terminal.
 still interested?
I'm interested(I've the same issue on htcdream with shr built with
org.openembedded.dev branch) but I'm not sure I've the time to look into
it:
here's a trace:
$ gdb intone
GNU gdb (GDB) 7.0
Copyright (C) 2009 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later
http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.  Type show
copying
and show warranty for details.
This GDB was configured as arm-oe-linux-gnueabi.
For bug reporting instructions, please see:
http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/bugs/...
Reading symbols from /usr/bin/intone...Reading symbols
from /usr/bin/.debug/intone...done.
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
(gdb) run
Starting program: /usr/bin/intone 
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
[New Thread 0x41455460 (LWP 4316)]
[Thread 0x41455460 (LWP 4316) exited]
db ver 63
FATAL: Module snd_pcm_oss not found.
ERR:elementary elm_widget.c:1121 _elm_widget_type_check() Passing
Object: 0x11e3d8, of type: 'genlist' when expecting type: '(unknown)'
ERR:elementary elm_widget.c:1121 _elm_widget_type_check() Passing
Object: 0x11e3d8, of type: 'genlist' when expecting type: '(unknown)'

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x40a9aee8 in strncat () from /lib/libc.so.6
(gdb) bt
#0  0x40a9aee8 in strncat () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x4004f0f8 in _item_realize ()
from /usr/lib/libelementary-ver-pre-svn-05.so.0
#2  0x400506d8 in _item_block_recalc ()
from /usr/lib/libelementary-ver-pre-svn-05.so.0
#3  0x400518e0 in _queue_proecess ()
from /usr/lib/libelementary-ver-pre-svn-05.so.0
#4  0x400519dc in _item_queue ()
from /usr/lib/libelementary-ver-pre-svn-05.so.0
#5  0x40051d14 in elm_genlist_item_append ()
from /usr/lib/libelementary-ver-pre-svn-05.so.0
#6  0x00019450 in populate_main_list (list=value optimized out) at
db_sqlite.c:785
#7  0x00015970 in create_gui (win=0xbe378) at gui.c:514
#8  0x00011cb8 in elm_main (argc=value optimized out, argv=value
optimized out) at main.c:130
#9  0x40a456c4 in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6
#10 0xe150 in _start ()

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Re: AAVA Mobile?

2010-04-07 Thread GNUtoo
On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 17:59 +0300, Timo Jyrinki wrote:
 
 I'm also not sure if there is any Intel WLAN hardware suitable for
 devices of this size (and battery power). 
I don't remember the name but there is,
see
http://free-electrons.com/pub/video/2009/elce/elce2009-ortiz-wifi-solutions-for-mobile.ogv
 
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Re: Rutgers University writes malware for Freerunner

2010-02-27 Thread GNUtoo
On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 21:02 +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
 I'd like to help with that, if someone could introduce me to the right
 people.
I think that you need to send some patches or to shr-devel mailing list
or to to openembedded-devel.

I think you also may want to read the openembedded manual:
http://docs.openembedded.org/usermanual/usermanual.html

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Re: Rutgers University writes malware for Freerunner

2010-02-23 Thread GNUtoo
On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 00:08 +0100, Petr Vanek wrote:
 as
 my middleware fails to bring up GSM interface 9 of 10 times lately, i
 guess i am pretty safe from any bad hackers' attacks!
But what if you get attacked from wifi?
I think we need help on security in openembedded(the build system SHR
uses):
*no security team and potentially outdated and vulnerable packages,but
sometimes people fix security bugs...
*On SHR and many default images root is the only user
*I bet we have no selinux support but because of the previous issues it
becomes irrelevant.

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Re: tangogps 0.99.1

2010-01-10 Thread GNUtoo
On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 10:01 +0100, Marcus Bauer wrote:
  Hi Marcus and all others.
  Is there a way to remove or make smaller the speed indicator (big 
  numbers) on tangogps?
 
 I'll make that configurable in one of the next versions of tangoGPS.
hi,Thanks for making tangogps,
I've also a suggestion, I'd like to be able to configure the speed
limit(so when the speed goes red), because last time I used
tangogps(during the last summer hollidays) When I was in a car the speed
limit was about 50Km/h.That's fine in a city but not on a highway(about
130 Km/h in France)

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Re: Happy New Year from FSO

2010-01-03 Thread GNUtoo
On Sun, 2010-01-03 at 16:32 +0100, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
 we can't even charge the battery N900 with FOSS, so I'd say
 there's a whole set of different showstoppers lurking when attempting
 to
 bring a free OS to the N900. The modem itself is using a binary
 protocol
 as well, as opposed to the Palm Pre though it seems to be somewhat
 documented.
 
 Unfortunately this time I didn't seem to be eligible for a Nokia
 developer discount, that's pretty much the reason why I don't have a
 N900.
More informations are available here:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Free_Maemo
I wonder if we could use(so replace maemo with) stock omap free software
such as:
x-load
u-boot
linux-omap kernel
And look at what works and what doesn't

If we could find a way to charge the battery in some way,and use stock
omap free software it would be great.

By the way we now have suspend to ram with omap CPU.

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Re: Whither open hardware ?

2010-01-03 Thread GNUtoo
On Sun, 2010-01-03 at 20:49 +, Dave Ball wrote:
 Laszlo KREKACS wrote:
  There is also the openpandora project:
  http://www.open-pandora.org/index.php?option=com_contentview=categorylayout=blogid=2Itemid=2lang=en
 
  Is it unsuitable for a phone because of power inefficiency?
  Can be the ARM Cortex-A8 600Mhz used in a future phone?

 
 The pandora (and beagleboard) use the OMAP3530 which (afaik) is just a 
 retail package of the (oem only) OMAP3430 used in the palm pre and 
 motorola droid. [1]
 
 The docs are open [2] (except the power VR 3D subsystem), and from first 
 looks it should be fine in a future phone - though it would be a radical 
 departure from our existing designs.
There is one...it's called omap zoom II but it's not cheap
If I understood well the GSM modem is optionnal

Maybe I should have bought one instead of an htcdream
(better buy now when the dollar is cheap)

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Re: More Questions about Encrypting, Internet Access and Games

2009-12-30 Thread GNUtoo
On Sat, 2009-12-26 at 10:13 +0100, Rashid wrote:
 Hi thank you for you answers. 
 
 May I ask some more questions:
 
 Encryption:
 
 Is there an easy way to encrypt the whole disk (except /boot)? 
 Like in Ubuntu Alternate the install option install to encrypted
 LVM?
 Or will you have to do it manualy by many complicated console
 commands?
Maybe with debian it could be easier
 Internet: 
 
 Can I use EDGE with the Freerunner? 
 What is the maximum upload and download the Freerunner can use?
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPRS
Maybe with an external USB EDGE adapter,else you won't have EDGE speed
 
 Games:
 
 Can you just compile the games on your open moko
Remember that the openmoko is slow and has 128M of ram...so not a very
good idea...
I bet debian uses qemu for compiling but I'm not sure...
else you have openembedded...
for what openembedded is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openembedded

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Re: Bluetooth laser keyboard

2009-12-30 Thread GNUtoo
On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 17:17 +0100, Pieter Colpaert wrote:
 Any chance this could work?
 
 http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/keyboards-mice/8193/
 
 Pieter
it seem the same than the one I saw at fosdem but I can't tell for
sure...
if so it should work but I can't guarantee anything

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Re: Encryption, Cameras and Games

2009-12-25 Thread GNUtoo
On Fri, 2009-12-25 at 09:40 +0100, Rashid wrote:
 Will there be a Battle for Wesnoth
It's in openembedded(the build system used by the SHR distro)...but not
very usable(with newer SHR and newer wesnoth you have to play in 640x480
instead of 480x640 and that may be the cause of the poor performance,or
maybe it's something else...because the older wesnoth with older SHR
didn't have this problem...)
In another hand someone ported wesnoth to the iphone and gave back all
the sources...including...the theme he made...
so maybe we should try to import the theme
The theme was made for 480x320...we have 480x640 wich is much better
so if you want wesnoth just build it,or ask SHR people to include it in
their feed...
But beware...some people think that openembedded is complicated...(try
before buying...)

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Re: Encryption, Cameras and Games

2009-12-25 Thread GNUtoo
 you can encrypt everything except the kernel as long as you have the
 proper module / initrd
 the only issue will be to type the passphrase in...
And maybe speed...
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Re: [OffTopic]Geek'sPhone: New android actor?

2009-11-11 Thread GNUtoo
On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 21:34 +0100, David Lanzendörfer wrote:
 Would be nice, if it could become a new development platform for OM/SHR too.
 
 Are there some development boards to get?
 
 With JTAG interface and so on?
 
 And a documentation for writing free drivers for the linux kernel?
 
 Using android kernel is not an option, because they put the mostpart of 
 theire 
 drivers into the apache licensed userspace. In binary format.
 
 So the basic idea of opensource handies is died in android, because the linux 
 kernel cant support the hardware on its own, theres alway a binary compatible 
 android userspace needed to have the devices working properly.
 
 I hope, if they call theire phone geeky then they are also open to sell 
 developmentboards and documentation.
 If they dont. Then the word geeky is a lie and we could even call a htc-raph 
 or other windows-ce generation handies geeky.
 Then we can call every ** smartphone geeky. Because they are all hackable in 
 someway...
 
 So please ask them to inform about development boards on theire page.
 They dont have to make UMTS/GSM open, its clear that they cant, but the rest 
 of the pcb and schematics they could give us in a documentation, so that some 
 smart linux kernel hackers could write some drivers in the propriate section 
 (Board, CPU, Devices)
 
 Something which the Android developers didnt manage to do either.
 Theire drivers are sooo ugly.
 This time, the development should start from our site.
 Linux shouldnt have only BIOS function, but should have the user and kernel 
 space consequently separated.
 Lets do it on our own, an we are sure, that it will be respected.
 We can certainly do it better then proprietary enterprises and google.
 
 regards leviathan
If you are looking for such phone maybe the htcdream(I know you're doing
some work on the htcdream)is not a good option(but it's great if you
want to learn about the internals...because there is some work to do)
Some candidates are:
*Omap Zoom II ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OmapZoom )
*Exeda mobile ( http://www.exedamobile.com/web/ )
*The flow
( http://www.gizmoforyou.com/e107_plugins/content/content.php?content.32 )
*future openmoko phones(like gta02-core and/or the one from the
University of São Paulo in Brasil )

Maybe there are others that I have forgotten.

The palm pre is a different case as the modem doesn't fully work yet
( http://www.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Palm_Pre_Challenge )

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Re: This might be illegal!

2009-11-07 Thread GNUtoo
On Sat, 2009-11-07 at 09:29 +0530, Aditya Gandhi wrote:
 Hi people,
 Those who really wish to go by the book, don't like to break simple
 laws please stop here.
 I don't mean to be rude, but don't want people who usually don't break
 the law to get lured..
 
 
 
 Is there anyway in which we can use their emulator, probably hack the
 g1 emulator and reverse engineer the android market
Slideme that is a market,has an old apache 2.0 licensed version
I tried to compile it but needed the 1.1 SDK and my CPU had better
things to do than compile the 1.1 SDK
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Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

2009-10-29 Thread GNUtoo
On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 12:51 +0100, DJDAS wrote:
 otherwise I would by an HTC with Android if I only wanted 
 a Linux-phone
carefull...everything is non-standard

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Re: how to port a scheme interpreter to om?

2009-10-28 Thread GNUtoo
On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 23:57 +0800, Shawn wrote:
 hi guys,
does anybody has try to port the scheme interpreter(guile,etc)
 to openMOKO?
for what distribution?
If it's for SHR try openembedded...there is a guile recipe,but verify
that it's the same version than the one in org.openembedded.dev else it
will fail with a libtool problem because it would require an old
libtool.

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Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

2009-10-27 Thread GNUtoo
On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 20:21 +1100, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
 you show and immense amount of knowledge here, both of the hardware,
 of
 software and graphics in general. i'm amazed. i shall take your advice
 as you
 obviously are someone of massive experience. i see that people
 reporting that
 its faster and better on a gta01 @ 266 mhz (2/3 the cpu powerd), same
 screen
 and no glamo are obviously wrong. you indeed know much more. the
 smooth
 rendering on a 206mhz strong arm is obviously just incorrect and i'm a
 fool to
 think so. i shall be quiet and let your amazing skills make everything
 blindingly fast and smooth.
lol...

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Re: FOSDEM2010

2009-10-27 Thread GNUtoo
On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 10:12 -0700, PieterC wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 
 great to hear many people are interested! Today I've entered openmoko on
 fosdem.org for a devroom and made some wikipages for it. If you're coming or
 want to do more (giving a talk/presentation, organizing a brainstorm
 session, ...), please add your name and/or idea to
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Fosdem_2010
 
 Pieter
Are other communities that work on others FSO compliant phones welcome
like:
*palm pre
*htc-linux
?
Are people working to free phones regardless of the stack welcome?
like a 100% free android on the htcdream for instance?

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Re: Web site promoting open hardware?

2009-09-16 Thread GNUtoo
On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 11:00 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
 While looking for new hardware, I noticed that all the open hardware
 I know, I discovered it by accident while reading some mailing-list.
 
 Is there a web site somewhere that kind of centralizes this info to try
 and make it easier for openness-conscious consumers to find
 appropriate hardware?  Of course, there are various notions of open
 hardware, so there might be parts of the site for hardware-hackers, for
 example, but I'm more interested in a web-site for end-users.  Also it
 might include hardware that is not itself open source, but where the
 company states a clear commitment to Free Software principles.
There is also http://www.elinux.org/Products
 I.e. a site that links to things like Openmoko, Qi, AlwaysInnovating,
 maybe Lemote, OpenPandora, ...
There is also the bug (I call it bug device) from buglabs:
The bug device is:
*100% Free software
*also free hardware:
**the design is available(pdf)
**they didn't patent their design
That(open-hardware) is also very important for this device because of
the purpose of the device...
with that device you can:
*make your own modules(if you have the connector),for instance:
http://community.buglabs.net/forums/8-BUGmodules/topics/363-First-Homebrew-Bug-module

(/!\contains links to youtube videos,you can download them with
youtube-dl or view them with vlc,gnash,firefox+greasemonkey+a script)

*use the von hippel to interface with electronics circuits

What is the bug device:
That's hard to describe:
Basically the bug device is a base + additional modules:
http://store.buglabs.net/ lists the avaliables modules...

For using the modules the preferred way is to use their java framework
based on concierge OSGI,and java-me(with extended classes...)
There is an eclipse plugin that easier the setup...
But someone can also use python for instance or other programming
languages
For python what has been done is here:
http://bugcommunity.com/wiki/index.php/Develop_with_Python
python bindings are not very advanced but some development tricks are
explained(how to unpack struct...how to do ioctls...in python)

By the way I don't think you can add more than 2 screens(I started
coding a media player in pygtk that used the 2 screens)...
and usb support is not so great with the previous kernel I tested(not
the lastest one...the one just before...I'll upgrade) but you have usb2
on the von hippel
Basically some things work such as my wifi card(I've an old version of
the bug device without wifi),audio card,mouse,keyboard(warning has an
old kdrive...I tested my keyboard with a game that use the framebuffer
directly),but not my tv card didn't work

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Re: Convert Tangogps's poi.db JOSM suitable gpx files

2009-08-17 Thread GNUtoo
 2009/8/16 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com:
 2009/8/16 GNUtoo gnu...@no-log.org:
 I've made a python script that converts poi.db in gpx files...
 what should I do with it?

 put it on the wiki, on the tangogps page?

 package it up and put it on opkg.org?

 you might want to check tangogps.org, i'm sure something similar
 already exists. the writer might be interested in merging his script
 and yours? or maybe hosting your script?

 I'll really appreciate if you post here in ML a compressed file with
 the script, or a link to download it. At now I have a _lot_ of pois
 but I'm too busy to place it on the OSM map, it should be really quick
 importing them directly in JOSM using a GPX.

 Thanks,
Done,it's posted in the wiki,and it's also available as an attachment in
my first mail,but:
*I don't have time to do an opkg recipe
*It is intended to run on the computer that is running JOSM

Maybe I need to open poi.db as an argument(argc/argv)(I did it very
quickly because of the lack of time)

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Convert Tangogps's poi.db JOSM suitable gpx files

2009-08-15 Thread GNUtoo
I've made a python script that converts poi.db in gpx files...
what should I do with it?

Denis.
#!/usr/bin/env python
#poi2osm convert a sqlite poi database comming from tangps to a file you can import in JOSM
#Copyright (C) 2009  Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
#
#This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify
#it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
#the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or
#(at your option) any later version.
#
#This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
#but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
#MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
#GNU General Public License for more details.
#
#You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
#along with this program.  If not, see http://www.gnu.org/licenses/.
#

from sqlalchemy import *
from sqlalchemy.orm import *

class Poi(object):
	def __init__(self,id,longitude,latitude,unk1,unk2,unk3,description,unk4,unk5,unk6,unk7,unk8,unk9,unk10,unk11):
		self.id = id
	def __repr__(self):
		print repr(self.id)


engine = create_engine('sqlite:///poi.db')
session = create_session(bind=engine)
metadata = MetaData('sqlite://')
poi_table = Table(poi,metadata,
Column('idmd5', Integer, primary_key=True),
Column('lat', Integer),
Column('lon', Integer),
Column('visibility', Integer),
Column('cat', Integer),
Column('subcat', Integer),
Column('keywords', String),
Column('desc', String),
Column('price_range',Integer),
Column('extended_open', Integer),
Column('creator', String),
Column('bookmarked', String),
Column('user_rating', String),
Column('rating', String),
Column('user_comment', String),
)
mapper(Poi, poi_table)

print osm version=\0.5\
for poi in session.query(Poi).all():
	print   node id=\+ str(poi.idmd5) + \ lat=\ + str(poi.lat)  + \ lon=\ + str(poi.lon)  +  \
	print tag k=\name\ v=\+ poi.keywords  +\/
	print   /node
print /osm
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Re: OpenMoko on HTC-Dream (Can anyone help?)

2009-08-06 Thread GNUtoo
hi,
 As you know we first tried to remove(/free) the non-free android part
 related to the drivers for the G1,but you came and you made shown how to
 run the distro of your choice on the G1...
 I did the first step an I've forked the android kernel to remove android
 components.
What do you mean by remove android components? just remove them? or
replace them with standard components?
for instance the USB function framework can be replaced by the gadget
framework easily,just changing the .config
 http://gitorious.org/openmoko-msm-2-6-29
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_on_HTC-Dream
so which one should I clone,the official one or your repo?
 We are now more organized and we have a name(replicant),and an IRC
 channel ( #replicant on freenode),but we are waiting for the rest of the
 infrastructure
 Our goal is to free the G1,that is to say port GNU/Linux(with FSO) on
 it but also replace some android components with free ones
 so far:
 *you've got the wifi and the screen working
 Screen works. I've got Enlightment running right now.
 Touchscreen and mouse work perfect too.
wow! how did you do that? I'm stuck with screen now(I've just made usbnet
work)

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Re: OpenMoko on HTC-Dream (Can anyone help?)

2009-07-31 Thread GNUtoo
Hi,
I finally bought a G1,
As you know we first tried to remove(/free) the non-free android part
related to the drivers for the G1,but you came and you made shown how to
run the distro of your choice on the G1...
We are now more organized and we have a name(replicant),and an IRC
channel ( #replicant on freenode),but we are waiting for the rest of the
infrastructure
Our goal is to free the G1,that is to say port GNU/Linux(with FSO) on
it but also replace some android components with free ones
so far:
*you've got the wifi and the screen working
*someone tested that program: 
http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/misc/playwav2.c
with all the proprietary things removed and it worked
so we should be able to have sound too
but we need something that translate the dspish thing to an alsa thing
in order to get out of the box support for all applications
else we could port each library or application to the dsp-ish thing(such
as mplayer,vlc,pulseaudio,libxine etc...)
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Re: New Open Hardware company

2009-07-20 Thread GNUtoo
On Mon, 2009-07-20 at 08:47 -0700, steven mosher wrote:
It would be a great device...It has usb-2.0...wow(I hope it works
fine...not like on my bug device( http://www.buglabs.net/ ) where most
of the USB device I have work...but not my usb tv card)
but...unfortunately it has 320x240 screen and only 32M of
ram...ouch...I've a 320x240 screen on my bug device and it's so
small...I have problem with some applications...and is not very
comfortable to use.
Are 32M of ram sufficient for a GUI like illume but without the FSO+SHR
stack?
But in another hand I saw that there are future devices in
preparation...a bit like for GTA01 and freerunner
Another problem would be the lack of wifi...

But wait a second...it has microsd...it would makes a great ogg
player...maybe it could do tv too(with USB 2.0 tv card)
But I wonder how usable it is as a a general purpose computer

By the way will the micro-sd be removable...what would be the costs and
the size compared to the openpandora(If I ever buy one I won't use the
3d because it's proprietary,unmaintained(so old kernel) etc...)

And what would be the battery life?

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Re: OpenMoko on HTC-Dream

2009-07-19 Thread GNUtoo
On Sun, 2009-07-19 at 13:31 +0200, David Lanzendörfer wrote:
 ndroid-Handy).
 (framebuffer console)
 That means: Android linux kernel + OpenMoko (Angstrom) user space.
 When someone is interested in participating the development, youre
 welcome to 
 help me.
 
 greatings
 leviathan
WOW!!!
me and other people were doing the contrary:
free the android stack of the G1,mainly because we thought that it was
easier(and also easier for me because I've no G1,so I thought that if I
had to debug early boot failure it would be a lot harder if I've not the
phone and without serial
port(https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Noisedroid/FAQ have serial
working ))
so I've some questions:
*does the telephony part work?
*does the GPS part work?
*does the wifi work?

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Re: gsm restart

2009-07-19 Thread GNUtoo
On Sat, 2009-07-18 at 13:38 +0200, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
 On Friday 17 July 2009 21:12:18 Petr Vanek wrote:
  as calypso sometimes crashes under heavy load is there a way to restart
  it on the fly? power off; power on?
 
 Do you still see firmware crashes even with fso-abyss as muxer?
 
 :M:
I still do with
SIP+openvpn(for avoiding the port blocking) as udp
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Re: OpenMoko on HTC-Dream

2009-07-19 Thread GNUtoo
On Sun, 2009-07-19 at 22:22 +0200, David Lanzendörfer wrote:
  WOW!!!
 Thx
 
  me and other people were doing the contrary:
 Ok, I always wondered why someone would install some piece of shit like 
 android on any device, especially on such a great device like the FIC 
 NeoFreerunner.
No I wasn't involved in doing it for the freerunner...just for the
G1...the freerunner already has a free android
  free the android stack of the G1,mainly because we thought that it was
  easier(and also easier for me because I've no G1,so I thought that if I
  had to debug early boot failure it would be a lot harder if I've not the
  phone and without serial
  port(https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Noisedroid/FAQ have serial
  working ))
 Freeing android? Look please onto the screen!
 First what you see is the google logo. And before cupcake you weren't able to 
 even use it unless you logged into google with a personal account.
 And without hacking you never ever get something like a root shell.
That's what you have by default when buying the G1...we planned to
remove or replace the following:
*proprietary google applications
*proprietary userland drivers like the ril,the libgl,*libgps*,etc..
Personally I higly prefer a standard embedded GNU/Linux,for several
reasons:
*better known,so we are sure that there are no spying features
*a lot of applications...no need to port the source code or rewrit
applications
*may(I'm not sure) be easier to make the gps,and telephony(thanks to
FSO) work
 They can write Linux phone as long as they want, as long as I cant do 
 anything with it, its worthless.
 When I wanted to have a phone, on which you cant do anything and which data 
 mines you all the time, I also could buy a WindowsCE-Smartphone or an iPhone.
 
  so I've some questions:
  *does the telephony part work?
  *does the GPS part work?
  *does the wifi work?
 No, but Im glad, that I got this f* userspace off of my handy.
 
  Denis.
 David
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Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments

2009-07-18 Thread GNUtoo
On Sat, 2009-07-18 at 12:21 +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
 The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com writes:
  That said, if anyone knows a way to make it not cut and skip when playing
  OGG with mplayer niced at -19, I'd love to hear it. It's not too bad right
 
 Use tremor.
 
 gcc -o ~/bin/ivorbisfile_example -lvorbisidec 
 /usr/share/doc/libvorbisidec-dev/examples/ivorbisfile_example.c 
 sudo renice -19 -p $$
 ivorbisfile_example  foo.ogg | aplay -t raw -c 2 -f S16_BE -r 44100 -B 
 800 -
 
 CPU usage should be strictly less than 25%.
 
 If you have time please look at 
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=515259
does modifying the mplayer config(if I remember well it's
in /usr/etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf) file for making it use libvorbis
instead of ffmpeg and installing tremor works?
(that's what I use and the cpu usage is lower)
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Re: Problem with package built with my OE environment

2009-06-17 Thread GNUtoo
On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 23:24 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:27:22PM +0200, GNUtoo wrote:
  On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 08:19 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
   On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 12:19:07AM +0200, GNUtoo wrote:
 Then I decided to try fso-testing (argh, another two days compiling), 
 and I
 was unpleaseantly surprised to see the same error.
 
 What could I be doing wrong? Any suggestions?
 
 Rui
hi,
you seem wanting to install the ipk without its dependencies.
personally I do bitbake package-index,then I push my deploy dir to my
server-router.
Then I do opkg update on the device and install the package with opkg
install $package-name
Denis.
   
   Yes, that part I understood, but it is the very first time something like
   this happened to me. Why isn't it using the proper versions?
 
  There are several possibilities:
  *or the dependences aren't included in fso
 
 Hardly. it's fso-testing or fso-unstable and the phone had a daily image.
 
  *or you use a more up to date fso version than the released one(in
  openembedded)
 
 How do you get a more up to date? Makes no sense.
 However it seems it's picking up svn elementary and other E libs. What is
 the environment I should use?
 
   Am I not neither on unstable nor testing if using Om2009.06.11 daily?
   
   This doesn't make sense, what about if I want to distribute the ipk?
   
   What will happen when I want to make a new omnewrotate ipk? The same?
   
   For me this means my environment is borked :(
   
   Rui
 
  Maybe just distribute the dependencies with the ipks? or...better ask
  openembedded or fso or SHR to include your recipe.
 
 Makes no sense as:
   1. it's not supposed to carry all the subversion files but some more or
  less stable releases
   2. why would I send a recipe for software that is so much in development
  I may need to add libraries at will?
 
  I don't know the process for fso or SHR but for openembedded the
  preferred way is to send a patch to the mailing list
  then ask fso,shr etc... to include your application in your feed,it's
  just a mather of adding the name of your application to the task making
  the feed.
 
 How can that make sense with an application that's still being developed and
 not yet stable enough for a release?
 
 :(
You may want to ask help on the openembedded mailing list then.
There was some breakage with the enlightenment libraries some time ago.
I didn't understood very well the technical part of the whole
story(there were a fix that didn't work,breaking upgrade paths etc...and
it was very complicated...not all of us understood it)
by the way I only saw svn versions of the enlightenment libraries in
org.openenembedded.dev

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Re: Problem with package built with my OE environment

2009-06-16 Thread GNUtoo
On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 08:19 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 12:19:07AM +0200, GNUtoo wrote:
   Then I decided to try fso-testing (argh, another two days compiling), and 
   I
   was unpleaseantly surprised to see the same error.
   
   What could I be doing wrong? Any suggestions?
   
   Rui
  hi,
  you seem wanting to install the ipk without its dependencies.
  personally I do bitbake package-index,then I push my deploy dir to my
  server-router.
  Then I do opkg update on the device and install the package with opkg
  install $package-name
  Denis.
 
 Yes, that part I understood, but it is the very first time something like
 this happened to me. Why isn't it using the proper versions?
There are several possibilities:
*or the dependences aren't included in fso
*or you use a more up to date fso version than the released one(in
openembedded)
 Am I not neither on unstable nor testing if using Om2009.06.11 daily?
 
 This doesn't make sense, what about if I want to distribute the ipk?
 
 What will happen when I want to make a new omnewrotate ipk? The same?
 
 For me this means my environment is borked :(
 
 Rui
Maybe just distribute the dependencies with the ipks? or...better ask 
openembedded or fso or SHR to include your recipe.
I don't know the process for fso or SHR but for openembedded the
preferred way is to send a patch to the mailing list
then ask fso,shr etc... to include your application in your feed,it's
just a mather of adding the name of your application to the task making
the feed.
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Re: Problem with package built with my OE environment

2009-06-15 Thread GNUtoo
On Mon, 2009-06-15 at 10:17 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm making an Identi.ca client, and my openembedded environment seems ok
 (everything was built).
 
 This is my bitbake recipe, a straight ripoff from my omnewrotate:
 
 vv
 
 DESCRIPTION = Simple elementary client for Identi.ca
 HOMEPAGE = http://code.google.com/p/elmdentica/;
 AUTHOR = Rui Seabra
 LICENSE = GPLv3
 SECTION = x11/internet
 DEPENDS = libxml2 glib-2.0 curl elementary
 RDEPENDS = libxml2 glib-2.0 curl elementary
 PV = 0.0.1
 PR = r0
 
 SVN_REV=
 
 #SRC_URI = 
 svn://elmdentica.googlecode.com/svn/trunk;module=.;proto=http;rev=${SVN_REV}
 #S = ${WORKDIR}
 SRC_URI = file:///home/rms/svn/elmdentica/
 S = ${WORKDIR}/${PN}
 
 inherit autotools
 
 
 
 It built a package:
 
 vv
 
 r...@roque:~/svn/elmdentica$ ls -alF 
 /opt/openmoko/fso-testing/tmp/deploy/glibc/ipk/armv4t/elmdentica_0.0.1-r0_armv4t.ipk
 -rw-r--r-- 1 rms rms 11844 2009-06-15 06:46 
 /opt/openmoko/fso-testing/tmp/deploy/glibc/ipk/armv4t/elmdentica_0.0.1-r0_armv4t.ipk
 
 
 
 However, installing it:
 
 r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install elmdentica_0.0.1-r0_armv4t.ipk 
 Installing elmdentica (0.0.1-r0) to root...
 Collected errors:
  * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for elmdentica:
   *  libelementary-ver-pre-svn-01-0
   *  libelementary-ver-pre-svn-01-0 (= 0.0.0+svnr40978)
   *  libedje-ver-pre-svn-01-0 (= 0.9.92.060+svnr40978)
   *  libecore-file-ver-pre-svn-01-0 (= 0.9.9.060+svnr40978)
   *  libecore-ver-pre-svn-01-con (= 0.9.9.060+svnr40978)
   *  libecore-evas-ver-pre-svn-01-0 (= 0.9.9.060+svnr40978)
   *  libecore-imf-evas-ver-pre-svn-01-0 (= 0.9.9.060+svnr40978)
   *  libembryo-ver-pre-svn-01-0 (= 0.9.9.060+svnr40978)
   *  libecore-job-ver-pre-svn-01-0 (= 0.9.9.060+svnr40978)
   *  libecore-imf-ver-pre-svn-01-0 (= 0.9.9.060+svnr40978)
   *  libecore-fb-ver-pre-svn-01-0 (= 0.9.9.060+svnr40978)
   *  libecore-x-ver-pre-svn-01-0 (= 0.9.9.060+svnr40978)
   *  libecore-input-ver-pre-svn-01-0 (= 0.9.9.060+svnr40978)
   *  libecore-txt-ver-pre-svn-01-0 (= 0.9.9.060+svnr40978)
   *  libeet1 (= 1.1.0+svnr40978)
   *  libecore-ver-pre-svn-01-0 (= 0.9.9.060+svnr40978)
 
 Now... firstly I built with fso-unstable (because I'm running a daily) (argh
 two days compiling), when this first happened.
 
 Then I decided to try fso-testing (argh, another two days compiling), and I
 was unpleaseantly surprised to see the same error.
 
 What could I be doing wrong? Any suggestions?
 
 Rui
hi,
you seem wanting to install the ipk without its dependencies.
personally I do bitbake package-index,then I push my deploy dir to my
server-router.
Then I do opkg update on the device and install the package with opkg
install $package-name
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Re: intone a2dp (bluetooth) support

2009-06-13 Thread GNUtoo
On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 10:08 -0500, The Digital Pioneer wrote:
 I play oggs with intone/a2dp, but I have to renice mplayer to -19 to
 keep it smooth. It still cuts occasionally, but that could just be
 connectivity.
don't forget to edit mplayer's configuration in order to tell him to use
tremor(fixed point ogg decider)
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Re: Intone (0.30 - beta release) Elementary based mplayer frontend

2009-06-13 Thread GNUtoo
On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 20:04 -0700, c_c wrote:
 Hi,
   Well, I've been traveling a bit - and have more in store. So please bear
 with the delay. Here's what I'm looking at for the next release (by end
 Jun):-
 
  * better music manager
  * desktop app to sync music / id3 tags
  * use ecore functions to manage mplayer (respawn / kill etc)
  * add basic bluetooth streaming support
 
  Any other ideas / suggestions / wishlists welcome.
I've a suggestion...I've copied 12GB of music on my freerunner and have
an external sound card...
They are organized in folder...each folder is an album...
but all theses albums are in a folder...
when I want to listen to an album that is at the end of the list...I
have to slide during some hours...
It would be great to have the possibility to have a real scrollbar.
Thanks in advance if you implement it.
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Re: how dangerous Freerunner could be?

2009-06-09 Thread GNUtoo
On Sun, 2009-06-07 at 22:37 +0400, ivvmm wrote:
 Hello list
 
 koolu.com wrongly sent North American variant of devices to our European
 country in a pack. So what we got now is that devices operate only on
 1800MHz frequency. That's twice bigger than 900MHz.
 
 How dangerous could it be? I always carry the device near my heart
 because it is needed to for GPS to receive an accurate position.
 
 How could GSM module be shut down truly? We all know it sends
 control-signals even if turned off.
 
 
 Thank you.
There was a post on the planet long time ago with the measurements of
the power of the radio waves emitted(SAR) by diverse phones including
the freerunner...and it end up in the middle of the comparison,that is
to say it was not the best but not the worse.
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Re: Freerunner's Future

2009-06-06 Thread GNUtoo
On Sat, 2009-06-06 at 15:59 +0200, swap38 wrote:
 Risto H. Kurppa a écrit :
  I'd like to see some kind of democratic structure created to guide us
  somewhere where most of us want to go.
 
 Do you think about a kind of Openmoko Foundation like Wikimedia or Mozilla ?
 
 It can be a good way to manage projects, communities ... and maybe money
 ? ;-)
good idea...
an umbrella organization would be the easiest way:
http://www.softwarefreedom.org/resources/2008/foss-primer.html#x1-190003
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Re: om on flow

2009-05-28 Thread GNUtoo
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 15:51 +0700, Max wrote:
 Hello.
 
 Recently I found interesting news about another open smartphone:
 http://www.gizmoforyou.com/e107_plugins/wrap/wrap.php?3
 
 Are there any plans on porting om  fso to that new platform?
 Any plans on cooperation between projects?
 
 Personally I'm not so interested in FLOW as in smartphone (I already got
 one... with crappy software and hardware bugs but I believe it'll be
 iron out one day) but if they'll extend variety of available modules I'd
 love to have a book reader with e-ink screen capable of connecting to
 external lcd\keyboard\mouse for example :)
 
 best regards,
 Max.
well...I don't know for the FSO framework because usually the modems
have different AT commands set(some have smalls changes and some huges
such as the modem of the EZX phones...)
But a good start would be to add the followings things to openembedded:
*a machine.conf
*a kernel
*a bootloader


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Re: [android] android on ubuntu

2009-05-28 Thread GNUtoo
On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 11:29 +0200, arne anka wrote:
 might be interesting:
 some ubuntu guys compiled android against libc (not the android flavour)  
 and hacked its ipc to make it run under ubuntu:
 
  http://mjfrey.blogspot.com/2009/05/hacking-android-on-ubuntu.html
Is there a howto or sources?
or should we wait?

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Re: [OT] Is Android really free? (was Re: root almighty)

2009-05-21 Thread GNUtoo
 You instinctively decide to hate it due to some features you don't like
 (which are aimed at supporting proprietary apps, and you're free to disable
 in your version, or just not use those apps). There's nothing stopping
 people from releasing android apps as FOSS. personally I really like the
 idea of paying for apps from an app store if I choose to, or using/writing
 free ones if I don't.
There is something stopping people from contributing:
make: *** No rule to make target `run-java-tool', needed by
`out/host/common/obj/JAVA_LIBRARIES/droiddoc_intermediates/javalib.jar'.
Stop.
what should I do?

PS: I've some java warnings etc...I hope it's not the fault of
icedtea/openjdk

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linphonec

2009-05-21 Thread GNUtoo
Hi,
I've just bitbaken linphonec and I didn't succeed at making it work
I've followed this howto:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Linphone
and I've no sound...
Denis.

PS: if there are better recipes I'd like to know where to find them



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Re: linphonec

2009-05-21 Thread GNUtoo
On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 23:01 +0200, GNUtoo wrote:
 Hi,
 I've just bitbaken linphonec and I didn't succeed at making it work
 I've followed this howto:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Linphone
 and I've no sound...
 Denis.
 
 PS: if there are better recipes I'd like to know where to find them
I think it's my state file
with the headset I've hashed and incomprehensible audio but I've some
audio
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Re: linphonec

2009-05-21 Thread GNUtoo
On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 23:08 +0200, GNUtoo wrote:
 On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 23:01 +0200, GNUtoo wrote:
  Hi,
  I've just bitbaken linphonec and I didn't succeed at making it work
  I've followed this howto:
  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Linphone
  and I've no sound...
  Denis.
  
  PS: if there are better recipes I'd like to know where to find them
 I think it's my state file
 with the headset I've hashed and incomprehensible audio but I've some
 audio
 Denis.
The strange thing is the CPU usage that is low: less than 40%
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