Re: AW: Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What files do I have to download?
Hi Lorn Could you also make images for NEO1973. Or is this image compatible with GTA01 also? gxl 2008/7/10, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have build a jffs2 file; mkfs.jffs2 --pad=0x70 -o rootfs.jffs2 -e 0x4000 -n -d /tmp/jffsroot/ than, i installed the jffs2 with dfu-util...all things looks good...but when i boot this rootfs, i just see a black screen with a white underline and all ca. 20 sec. i see a graphical interface for ca. 2 sec...thats all... what do i wrong..? thanks for all inputs! The tarball you downloaded is a bare rootfs, there is no gui on it. Get the one labeled Qtopia flash image for FIC Neo Freerunner (gta02) -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, Trolltech, a Nokia company ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtopia terminal app
Hi ljp. I am about to upload a new Qtopia image for the Neo, I have just some kernel issue left and would like to add the qterminal imporvements to it if there are further changes to it than the source commited to the Qtopia git tree. . Could you also upload the source so others can take advantage of the improvements too. ¨ thx goxbixlive 2008/2/11, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: One of the htc-linux guys ported embeddedkonsole/konsole 4 to Qtopia. I have done some more work on it for the Neo and created a qpk of it for the Neo running Qtopia, and put it up at qtopia.net Enjoy. -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, MES, Trolltech ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there a Terminal App. for Qtopia?
Hi. At the moment there is no terminal for Qtopia. I know this is a big lack, but i think it will be one soon (lets hope). There is one terminal app that are written for Qtopia it compiles and you are able to start it, but it freaks out and doesnt do any good. It froze my system when i tested it on the Qtopia 4.2.x version. If you want to take a look at it you can check out the OPIE2 source and try to fix it and then i will add it to my images. http://projects.linuxtogo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/trunk/src/3rdparty/applications/embeddedkonsole/?root=opie Ok, this was the bad news, now a good one. A guy named tsdogs from the xanadux team have made a filemanager to Qtopia. I have installed it and tested it and it runs quite nice. It has the most basic functions, but miss executing mp3, wave and text files, it execute scripts and executable programs. Also another one from #htc-linux named ymerejt has made a alsamixer for Qtopia, it also runs quite nice. I know that there is another one out there, but i havent got the sources for it so i havent been able to implement it to my images. When the filemanager has support for executing all files i will make a new image and add qalsamixer and simplefm (filemanager) and upload it. regard gxl 2008/1/16, clare [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Currently I am using the version supplied by GoXbox Live which has the GPS added. It is working quite nicely, especially since I discovered that If you ask a second time for a change of input method for SMS, the predictive keyboard is replaced by a very satisfactory real one, only slightly predictive. (I haven't yet tried VOIP). What I am hoping is that someone knows of a Terminal Application which could be installed and which uses that second keyboard or something similar. Terminal is the one thing that the Openmoko version has that makes it Linux rather than just a phone. The Keyboard in the Terminal of the OpenMoko version was very nice initially, but a some time back it was changed so that the letters on the keys require a magnifier to read them. clare ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neo1973 and Qtopia with GPS application
Hi, i havent looked at the kernel defconfig, it thought it where a standard one. I am using the stock one in OE repo. Is there any diffrents in angstrom and openmoko kernel defconfig, shouldnt be that? About the vfat module i have no idea, i havent checked if my sd card is viewable or not, but as long as you can access it from shh you should also be able to acess it from Qtopia. Check your /opt/Qtopa/etc/default/Storage.conf and view the settings. gxl. 2008/1/2, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: GoXbox Live wrote: Hi. I have made a Qtopia image for the Neo1973. The image is quite same as the ones Lorn Potter releases, but mine has added two gps applications. I have made a couple of screenies here: http://www.linuxtogo.org/~goxboxlive/Neo1973/screenshots/RoadGPS.jpg and http://www.linuxtogo.org/~goxboxlive/Neo1973/screenshots/Roadmap-1.jpg http://www.linuxtogo.org/~goxboxlive/Neo1973/screenshots/Roadmap-1.jpg To have this running you have to install gllin yourself, i cant include that because of the restrictions with distribution. Get gllin from here: http://3rdparty.downloads.openmoko.org/gllin/ http://3rdparty.downloads.openmoko.org/gllin/ and install it. The image uses Ängstôm 2008 base linux system and suplied with kernel 2.6.23.1 http://2.6.23.1 How it works. Just hit Roadmap or RoadGPS under applications. It will start gllin automaticly (remember to install it first). When you are done playing with the gps applications and to save battery remember to stop gllin from running by hitting Kill Glin under applications. To get maps for Roadmap read their web site: http://sourceforge.net/projects/roadmap/ My image togehter with the kernel uImage can be downloaded from here: http://www.linuxtogo.org/~goxboxlive/Neo1973/images/ http://www.linuxtogo.org/~goxboxlive/Neo1973/images/ regards gxl It seems the alsa audio modules seems to be missing from your image. -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, MES, Trolltech ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neo1973 and Qtopia with GPS application
Hi, someone told me that they didnt get i fix with runing 'cat /tmp/nmeaNP' but he got a fix with running RoadGPS. Dont know why, but it's worth a shot. I get i fix no mather what now. good luck gxl 2007/12/31, Jeremy McNicoll [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Joseph Reeves wrote: It's working well, thanks for this! I've been briefly thinking about the Neo1973's internal GPS antenna and looking at some photos: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:Gta01b_v3_case_top_open_pcb_lifted.jpg If the grey cable with the U.fl/Hirose connector plugged in next to the sim holder is for the internal antenna, then the antenna itself would be located in the top of the phone, orientated straight out the top? If this is correct, the GPS is going to work best when the phone is stood straight up rather than lying on its back? Out of curiousity to the people that are saying that their gps is now locking. Mine has been sitting outside on the roof of my car under the open sky for the last hour without locking at all. I constantly get the A1 and have never seen the A3 to indicate that my gps has locked. Any suggestions greatly appreciated. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neo1973 and Qtopia with GPS application
Yes i had some start problems. I did a search for a couple of hours around my house in several places to get i fix. But i tested with the gps on my A780 first to find the best coverage. But now after i got my first fix it starts quite fast. I am also using a external antenna (not when i git the first fix) with it now to have coverage inside, but it works fine also without. regars gxl 2007/12/30, Kai Winter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Have you had problems running gllin under Qtopia? My Neo doesn´t get a fix from the satellites... regards Kai www.medieninf.de/qmapcontrol GoXbox Live schrieb: Hi. I have made a Qtopia image for the Neo1973. The image is quite same as the ones Lorn Potter releases, but mine has added two gps applications. I have made a couple of screenies here: http://www.linuxtogo.org/~goxboxlive/Neo1973/screenshots/RoadGPS.jpg http://www.linuxtogo.org/%7Egoxboxlive/Neo1973/screenshots/RoadGPS.jpg and http://www.linuxtogo.org/~goxboxlive/Neo1973/screenshots/Roadmap-1.jpg http://www.linuxtogo.org/%7Egoxboxlive/Neo1973/screenshots/Roadmap-1.jpg To have this running you have to install gllin yourself, i cant include that because of the restrictions with distribution. Get gllin from here: http://3rdparty.downloads.openmoko.org/gllin/ http://3rdparty.downloads.openmoko.org/gllin/ and install it. The image uses Ängstôm 2008 base linux system and suplied with kernel 2.6.23.1 http://2.6.23.1 How it works. Just hit Roadmap or RoadGPS under applications. It will start gllin automaticly (remember to install it first). When you are done playing with the gps applications and to save battery remember to stop gllin from running by hitting Kill Glin under applications. To get maps for Roadmap read their web site: http://sourceforge.net/projects/roadmap/ My image togehter with the kernel uImage can be downloaded from here: http://www.linuxtogo.org/~goxboxlive/Neo1973/images/ http://www.linuxtogo.org/%7Egoxboxlive/Neo1973/images/ regards gxl ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neo1973 and Qtopia with GPS application
I cant take credit for the work. I just compiled the source and added it to one of my images. 2007/12/30, andy selby [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Have you had problems running gllin under Qtopia? My Neo doesn´t get a fix from the satellites... Yeah, it took me ages to get a fix too, I only got one by standing outside, maybe the neos GPS antenna is not as sensitive as a dedicated GPS receiver . Its very good, goxboxlive, the display could be clearer and the back button doesn't work, also the start,stop and quit buttons may be better in the options menu but I applaud you for your work. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neo1973 and Qtopia with GPS application
Hi, i am not sure i understand what you mean. But the image is for GTA01, either flash the jffs2 image to it, or run from sd card with the tar.bz2image. gxl 2007/12/30, Pratul Kalia [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi! Has all this has been done on the GTA01? On 12/30/07, GoXbox Live [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cant take credit for the work. I just compiled the source and added it to one of my images. 2007/12/30, andy selby [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Have you had problems running gllin under Qtopia? My Neo doesn´t get a fix from the satellites... Yeah, it took me ages to get a fix too, I only got one by standing outside, maybe the neos GPS antenna is not as sensitive as a dedicated GPS receiver . Its very good, goxboxlive, the display could be clearer and the back button doesn't work, also the start,stop and quit buttons may be better in the options menu but I applaud you for your work. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com In a world without fences boundaries, who needs Gates and Windows? http://pratul.in ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neo1973 and Qtopia with GPS application
No, gta01 has gps include. 2007/12/30, Pratul Kalia [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry for being so unclear. Actually i am very new to the openmoko project. Since i am an avid python learner, I joined the list; i simply go through every message and am trying to keep up! :) I read somewhere that GTA01 did not have integrated GPS? I haven't yet bought the neo yet, was waiting for the GTA02 shipment. But from the talk it seems that it does. Am i right? Pratul On 12/30/07, GoXbox Live [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, i am not sure i understand what you mean. But the image is for GTA01, either flash the jffs2 image to it, or run from sd card with the tar.bz2image. gxl 2007/12/30, Pratul Kalia [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi! Has all this has been done on the GTA01? On 12/30/07, GoXbox Live [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cant take credit for the work. I just compiled the source and added it to one of my images. 2007/12/30, andy selby [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Have you had problems running gllin under Qtopia? My Neo doesn´t get a fix from the satellites... Yeah, it took me ages to get a fix too, I only got one by standing outside, maybe the neos GPS antenna is not as sensitive as a dedicated GPS receiver . Its very good, goxboxlive, the display could be clearer and the back button doesn't work, also the start,stop and quit buttons may be better in the options menu but I applaud you for your work. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com In a world without fences boundaries, who needs Gates and Windows? http://pratul.in ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com In a world without fences boundaries, who needs Gates and Windows? http://pratul.in ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ultimatum
What's the benefit of doing the upgrade? Are there known bugs in the firmware of gta01vb4? Merry Christmas gxl 2007/12/23, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Lorn Potter wrote: P.s. I'm not taking any time off, so if anyone wants their GSM firwmware upgraded I'm just as available next week as any time. What exactly is the procedure? Do you need the phone to be sent to you? Sadly, yes. Until the agreement with TI is signed, only OpenMoko employees are allowed access to the program which does the updating. I'm in the San Francisco Bay Area. You can send it to me or, if you're close enough, come on over. Surface shipping via UPS is about $7, depending I suppose on how you wrap it. I only need the phone - none of the accessories or the battery. Contact me off-list for my shipping address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michael ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What to use while waiting of v2?
Lets not forget about all the htc devices sold under diffrents names. We have most of the hardware working with linux, and alot of the devices are suplied with wlan. We even have the modem working on some of them. All the GUI (opie/gpe/gpephone/openmoko/Qtopia) runs well on them, and even the phone works with Openmoko and Qtopia (also sms) on some of them. Whats great about this is that they all are sold used at ebay, so you can have a cheap device running both Wince and linux. Here is an overview of our work with the htc devices: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HTC_2dPhones The most supported devices is HTC Universal, Magician, Blueangel and Apache. regards gxl 2007/12/16, Marcin Juszkiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dnia niedziela, 16 grudnia 2007, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller napisał: Am 16.12.2007 um 21:54 schrieb Marcin Juszkiewicz: Any recent Windows Mobile PDA then. Fortunaltely, there is no need to do such a strange move for a MacLinux addict... There is the Sharp Zaurus which is amongst the best PDAs out there. Man... I had all models of Sharp Zaurus palmtops in hands. Let see: SL-5000/5500/5600 we will ignore as they have crappy screen SL-6000 is too bulky c700 has slow CPU and only 32M ram c750/c760/c860/sl-7500 have nice video acceleration under Ångström but are available only from second hand c1000/c3000/c3100/c3200 are faster and have USB Host functionality But they all lack any wireless connectivity (which you can add via CF or USB but it adds to size), each of available ones (c1000/3x00) is huge compared to today palmtops. And it has so split community that getting support starts to be hard. -- JID: hrw-jabber.org OpenEmbedded developer/consultant To be or not to be that is the question.: every programmer knows the answer $2b or (not $2b) is $ff. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
