Re: [Shr-User] [Community Updates] 2010-09-01 is out

[Jakob]

On 9/1/10, Timo Jyrinki  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Newest community update now available at
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2010-09-01 and plain
> text version below.
>
> In addition to myself the latest edition was brought to you by:
> - Sre
> - Leadman
> - Toams
>
> ( as usual, you can help out with the next edition at
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2010-10-01 )
>
> ---
>
> Period 2010-08-01 to 2010-08-31
>
> *** Distributions ***
>
>   Debian GNU/Linux
>
> Debian is a universal operating system used on many other embedded
> devices, and also on home computers. Using Debian on the FreeRunner
> gives access to the huge army of software packaged in the Debian
> repositories, already compiled for the Neo's arm(v4) processor.
> Moreover, one can build one's own source files for programs without
> having to learn the OpenEmbedded way. For an existing Debian/Ubuntu
> user, choosing Debian for Neo FreeRunner makes phone a very familiar,
> trustworthy and flexible place to hack in.
>
> General news:
>
> * The ARM servers sponsored by ARM Ltd. got activated, thus
> experimental packages are built for arm now. That means also fso-gsmd
> got built for the Freerunner.
> * SHR packages have been removed from pkg-fso repository, they all
> arrived in Debian unstable, and just in time for Debian 6.0 freeze.
>
> The biggest hurdle for official FreeRunner support in Debian is the
> kernel, since basically everything else starts to be in, in one form
> or another. There are currently two places with FreeRunner related
> kernels in Debian:
>
> * Official kernel support for Neo FreeRunner devices is being
> developed by worked in a s3c24xx branch at
> http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-fso/kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/s3c24xx
> - thanks to Thibaut Girka and Google Summer of Code.
> * The legacy 2.6.29rc3 kernel at
> http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-fso/linux-2.6-openmoko.git also saw a
> slight update in August - this is still included in Debian
> installations by default
>
> Codename: 'sid'
> Homepage: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner
> Image: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian
>   
>
>   QtMoko [v26]
>
> Qtmoko is distribution for Openmoko Freerunner phone based on debian
> and qtopia. Here is a list of notable changes since previous stable
> version (v24):
>
> * Fixed WS (white screen) problem in qmplayer & QX rotation (Gennady
> Kupava)
> * Fixed unresponsive touchscreen after resume (Gennady Kupava)
> * Use blue indicator is used for wifi activity (Alex Samorukov)
> * Reconnect wifi after resume (Alex Samorukov)
> * Updated QtMaze with better graphics and other enhancements
> (Anton Olkhovik)
> * We use kernel modules for bluetooth
> * Many updates and bugfixes to QMplayer
> * More reliable GPRS connection (Alex Samorukov)
> * Bluethooth updates
> * APGS and GPS standby support (Piotr Gabryjeluk)
> * Fixed "When locked" power management mode
> * Bigger QTerminal (no tabs whith only one session)
> * Raptor - GUI for apt package manager
> * New nice theme called finximod (Joif)
> * Many updates and bugfixes to Arora (Ant+Alex)
> * New apps - qweather (Anton Olkhovik) and qneoriod game (Bala)
> * PDF support in eyepiece (Alex Samorukov)
>
> For a more complete list of changes and some additional info please
> read the announcement mail
>
> Codename: 'v26'
> Homepage: http://qtmoko.org
> Image: images
>
> *** Applications ***
>
> Application Updates
>
>   eStarDict 0.3
>
> Offline dictionary reader made in C with Enlightenment Elementary UI.
> Version 0.3 of eStarDict adds support for czech-english dictionary.
> You have to remember, that right now it can manage only one dictionary
> per instance.
>
> Homepage: http://www.vaudano.eu/wiki/en/estardict
> Package: http://www.vaudano.eu/wiki/en/estardictDownload
> Tested on: SHR-Unstable,SHR-Testing
>
> *** Community ***
>
> Most important and change making mails on the mailing lists, blogs
> etc.. Coolest hacks, screenshots, themes etc..
>
> * TI OMAP3 SoC + 3G replacement board preserving Neo case &
> display - discussion about the prospect is heating up:
> http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2010-August/062671.html
> * WikiReader sales and the future of Openmoko - Martix shares a
> truly interesting interview with Sean Moss-Pultz:
> http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2010-August/062687.html
> * Glamo timing improvements (= more speed without caveats) can be
> done also in run time, and also pre-compiled Qi with settings set by
> Qi are available:
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Smedia_Glamo_3362#Timing_settings
>
> *** Event News ***
>
> * 2010 Autumn German Open Hard&Software Workshop in Munich; will
> cover Openmoko, Beagle Board, Arduino, OpenPandora, ...; still in
> planing phase, Doodle scheduling link:
> http://www.doodle.com/93cu86vm2s69zsxc
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Re: [Shr-User] New SHR-unstable images with 2.6.32 kernel

[Jakob]

On 6/27/10, Martin Jansa  wrote:
> After hopefully lucky incident we have finally switched to new kernel.
> It's based on 2.6.32.13 and has DRM/KMS enabled.
>
> * New images are built with kernel and all needed changes are already
> included.
> * Images doesn't have udevd installed by default (using devtmpfs), which
> makes
>   it boot about twice as fast as before (less then 1 min to PIN dialog). But
>   it also won't mount your uSD automatically (it was blacklisted before, but
>   removing it from blacklist won't help now).
> * Included packages contains latest stuff like xserver-1.9 (RC3), foxtrotgps
>   and tangogps 0.99.4, QT 4.7.0-beta1 and QML enabled navit.
>
> * Distribution revision was changed in OE, this means that every package
>   installed from shr-unstable feeds will be upgraded during next opkg
> upgrade
>   (so be sure that you have enough time and space in /var partition).
>   Consider flashing new image, it can be faster and safer in the end.
> * Used GCC was upgraded from version 4.4.4 to 4.5 (svn revision 160764 from
>   gcc-4.5-branch, because released 4.5.0 has few issues on ARM targets).
> * New GCC brings LTO optimizations, which can give us 30% speedup in some
> cases,
>   see benchmark results [1].
>   LTO is not enabled by default yet.
>
> * New kernel has some issues, so please try first (on another uSD
> partition),
>   before upgrading your daily-phone-partition.
> * The kernel is bigger than 2MB so if you're using u-boot, update your
>   environment according to wiki entry [2].
> * With slower uSD you can see unknown-block-device while booting. Flash
> newer
>   Qi from SHR [3] it is using rootwait instead of rootdelay=1. For u-boot
>   increase rootdelay or use rootwait.
> * Sometimes (and only on some devices) it can show all white (looks like old
>   WSoD, but it's without death). Suspend/Resume should fix this.
> * Vibrations are too weak.
>
> * See OE changelog [4] and SHR changelog [5].
>
> [1]: http://sakrah.dontexist.org/node/1
> [2]:
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Kernel#.22Verifying_Checksum_..._Bad_Data_CRC.22_with_U-boot
> [3]: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/
> [4]: http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/log/
> [5]: http://git.shr-project.org/git/
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Awesome speed :)
Thanks for all your hard work!

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Re: opkg.org virus?

[Jakob]

there has also been another thread about it last month
see http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-f1954
though not much happend

On 6/17/10, Ed Kapitein  wrote:
> well, our company virus scanner is also complaining, so it seems a real
> virus:
>
> The page you've been trying to access was blocked.
>
> Reason: Virus Detected! The page or file you requested is infected with
> the following virus: Troj/JSRedir-BD.
>
> Kind regards,
> Ed
>
> On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 11:32 +0200, Fox Mulder wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> since quite some time my virus scanner (avast) complains about a virus
>> infection (JS:Illredir-AX[Tr]) when i try to surf to www.opkg.org.
>> Can someone confirm this or is my virus scanner a bit mad?
>> And if there is a virus then why didn't the owner of this site remove it?
>> :)
>>
>> Ciao,
>>  Rainer
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Re: [GTA02] clock reset on battery removal?

[Jakob]

On 4/9/10, Paul Wise  wrote:
> Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
>
>> USB usb power while swapping batteries so that you don't need
>> to power the system down.
>
> Most of the times that I need to remove the battery I don't have USB
> power, so that isn't very helpful.
>
> Yet another hardware design issue I guess, I'm quite surprised there
> isn't a small battery to power the clock like in PCs.
>
> PS: Please CC me.
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Afaik there is a Backupbattery for the RTC. Though it might be
dead/discharged what ever.

Regards,

Jake

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Re: [Shr-User] Upgrades for SHR-unstable

[Jakob]

Hihi ;)
Nice one :P

On 4/1/10, Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann  wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> Slowly but constantly we manage to fix the breakages we did to your phones
> in
> the last weeks :P (sorry for that btw.)
>
> There are some good fixes in the shr-unstable feed which should enable you
> again to use your beloved FR as phone again :-)
>
> Please 'opkg update; opkg upgrade' and reboot afterwards.
>
> Yours
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Re: Rutgers University writes malware for Freerunner

[Jakob]

On 2/23/10, Michael Smith  wrote:
> Having your web browser run as root is very dangerous. I hope we fix that
> soon.
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It's not hard to run your browser on the neo as user. Though it should
be made default.
e.g. in SHR one could ask the user at first startup to create a user
and then run the browser, piding and all those internet applications
with the rights of this user.

Jake

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Re: [Community Updates] released

[Jakob]

On 2/10/10, Patryk Benderz  wrote:
> Hello everybody,
> Recent Community Update is out. Take a look at "News" link in
> "Community" box on wiki pages to read it.
>
> For your convenience here is direct link:
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2010-02-10
>
> and contribute to the new draft at:
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2010-03-01
>
> Thanks to all contributors of this issue of CU:
> * Nhv
> * Jonci
> * /me is immodest ;)
>
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thank you for your work :)

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Re: openmoko to computer calls

[Jakob]

you could use a sip client like linphone or asterisk (see openmoko
wiki for details)
and put up your own sipserver or use existing free services like ekiga.

another way would be setting up a asteriskserver (not on the neo) with
an skypegateway. see this old thread
http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td220035

regards

On 1/7/10, Robin Paulson  wrote:
> i've previously been using skype on my desktop to call other people
> via their computers. i'd like to investigate other options for calling
> - asking the other user to install different software is not
> necessarily a problem
>
> i'm not sure where to start; what software is available (i'm using
> shr-u) to do this?
>
> cheers
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Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

[Jakob]

On 12/29/09, Risto H. Kurppa  wrote:
> Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?
yes
> Do you use FR as your primary PDA?
yes
> What distribution you run most of the time?
SHR-U
> Thank you :)
You're welcome

Jake

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Vibrating Pidgin alerts (new plugin)

[Jakob]

On 11/17/09, Joshua Judson Rosen  wrote:
> Rune Gangstø  writes:
>> 2009/11/12 Joshua Judson Rosen 
>> >
>> > a plugin for Pidgin that allows the Neo's vibrator to be used as a
>> > notifier for various IM events (such as incoming messages,
>> > buddy-logon, etc.); which particular events do or don't trigger
>> > vibrating alerts is configurable via Pidgin's plugin-management
>> > GUI.
> [...]
>> >http://www.hackerposse.com/~rozzin/pidgin-vibr
> [...]
>>
>> Nice work.
>>
>> That will sure come in handy :D
>
> Thanks--I'll be happy if someone else finds it useful :)
>
> If you do end up using it, please do let me know if you have any
> issues or suggestions.
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Hey Joshua,

it would be neat if you could provide a opkg :)

Jake

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Re: [SHR-U] How do you rotate the screen in SHR?

[Jakob]

On 10/10/09, Michael Smith  wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:10:05 +0200
> Jakob  wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 2:07 AM, Michael Smith
>>  wrote:
>> > I want to use SHR in landscape mode. Several people have discussed using
>> > it on the list but it is not clear to me how enter landscape mode.
>> >
>> > Any suggestions?
>> >
>> > Thanks.
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>> You could use the screen rotating function under wrench --> screen -->
>> screen resolution. It's not very comfortable to acess but it's already
>> built in.
>
> Thats what I was looking for. I just didn't expect to find it under
> "resolution". Thanks.
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Yeah it's kinda hidden in the menu woods :D
Your welcome.

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Re: [SHR-U] How do you rotate the screen in SHR?

[Jakob]

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 2:07 AM, Michael Smith
 wrote:
> I want to use SHR in landscape mode. Several people have discussed using it 
> on the list but it is not clear to me how enter landscape mode.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks.
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You could use the screen rotating function under wrench --> screen -->
screen resolution. It's not very comfortable to acess but it's already
built in.

Jake

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[gta02-core] Another statistical milestone reached

[Jakob]

On 8/29/09, Jakob  wrote:
> hey, i'm one of them "silent"ones and i realy appreciate the work you are
> doing.
> thanks!
>
> jake
>
> On 8/28/09, Álvaro Lopes  wrote:
>> Werner Almesberger wrote:
>>> The gta02-core list has reached 100 non-digested subscribers today.
>>> (Plus 12 digested ones, one of them with delivery disabled.)
>>
>> Kudos to us all ;)
>>
>> If we keep like this, we might surpass ker...@vger soon :)
>>
>> Álvaro
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hey, i'm one of them "silent"ones and i realy appreciate the work you are doing.
thanks!

jake

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Re: Intone 0.60 Almost Stable ;-)

[Jakob]

On 7/19/09, Laszlo KREKACS  wrote:

> Where to get mplayer for om2009.t5?
>
> Other dependencies:
> libsqlite3-0
> http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/armv4t/libsqlite3-0_3.6.5-r0_armv4t.ipk
> libvorbis
> http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/armv4t/libvorbis_1.0.1-r2_armv4t.ipk
>
> Terminal log:
> r...@om-gta02:~# intone
> SQL error: duplicate column name: priority
> SQL error: duplicate column name: version
> Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
>   Capabilities: volume
>   Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
>   Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
>   Limits: 0 - 255
>   Front Left: 204 [80%] [-25.50dB]
>   Front Right: 204 [80%] [-25.50dB]
> sh: mplayer: not found
>
> And hangs here.
>
> Laszlo

hi Laszo,

i'm using this [1] version of mplayer. It uses verylow CPU for mp3 and ogg.

[1] 
http://www.paultt.org/downloads/openmoko/mplayer_dev-SVN-r29155-4.1.2-tremor-low_armv4t.ipk

Jake

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Re: literki update

[Jakob]

Hey Michal,

I really like using literky and i like the new version even more. The
way how to popup/hide the keyboard is great and intuitinal.
Keep up the good work!

Jake

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Re: [shr-u] wpa-exiting with code 1 ???

[Jakob]

yeah that's right. It's a 2.6.29-rc3

jake

On 6/21/09, Davide Scaini  wrote:
> guess it's a 2.6.29-rc3 but i'll give a look. thanks...
> no other ideas about this problem?
> reproducibility it's a nightmare on this fr...
> d
>
> On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Jakob  wrote:
>
>> i'm using the latest kernel provided by shr. It's from June 15th. I
>> don't know on what the kernel is based on.
>>
>> jake
>>
>> On 6/21/09, Davide Scaini  wrote:
>> > ok,
>> > imho it's a mixture of kernel and wpa/shr version... i had a shr-u well
>> > working with the kernel i mentioned, but latest shr-u is _really_
>> > nicer!
>> so,
>> > i would like to have the wifi working with that... if possible.
>> > @Jakob: which kernel do you use, please?
>> > ...it seems to me an hard balancing...
>> > d
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Fox Mulder  wrote:
>> >
>> >> Do you know which kernel you use where wlan and wpa is working?
>> >>
>> >> Because i use the latest andy-tracking (in debian) for a few months
>> >> now
>> >> and wlan with wpa isn't working since than. But i don't exactly know
>> >> if
>> >> the problem is the kernel or wpa_supplicant or something else. Last
>> >> time
>> >> it worked was with the deprecated 2.6.24 kernel series. :(
>> >>
>> >> Ciao,
>> >> Rainer
>> >>
>> >> Jakob wrote:
>> >> > i don't have a problem using wlan with wpa on latest shr-unstable. I
>> >> > use mofi (included in shr) to connect to my wlan-router.
>> >> >
>> >> > jake
>> >> >
>> >> > On 6/21/09, Davide Scaini  wrote:
>> >> >> ...and trying with latest kernel i get a kernel panic...
>> >> >> do you have a working wifi (or at least a non criptic wpasupplicant
>> >> >> behaviour) with shr-unstable?
>> >> >> d
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Davide Scaini 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Hi guys,
>> >> >>> i'm experiencing some problems with shr unstable... so i
>> >> >>> downloaded
>> >> >>> the
>> >> >>> last one (20090617) and I use that with my favourite kernel
>> (2.28-rc4)
>> >> >>> with
>> >> >>> its modules... but the problem still remains: when i try to
>> >> >>> connect
>> to
>> >> my
>> >> >>> home-wifi i get:
>> >> >>> r...@om-gta02 /etc/network $ ifup eth0
>> >> >>> WPA: Configuring Interface
>> >> >>> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
>> >> >>> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
>> >> >>> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
>> >> >>> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
>> >> >>> run-parts: /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/wpasupplicant exited with code
>> >> >>> 1
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> do you have any idea?
>> >> >>> thanks
>> >> >>> d
>> >> >>>
>> >> >
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Re: [shr-u] wpa-exiting with code 1 ???

[Jakob]

i'm using the latest kernel provided by shr. It's from June 15th. I
don't know on what the kernel is based on.

jake

On 6/21/09, Davide Scaini  wrote:
> ok,
> imho it's a mixture of kernel and wpa/shr version... i had a shr-u well
> working with the kernel i mentioned, but latest shr-u is _really_ nicer! so,
> i would like to have the wifi working with that... if possible.
> @Jakob: which kernel do you use, please?
> ...it seems to me an hard balancing...
> d
>
> On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Fox Mulder  wrote:
>
>> Do you know which kernel you use where wlan and wpa is working?
>>
>> Because i use the latest andy-tracking (in debian) for a few months now
>> and wlan with wpa isn't working since than. But i don't exactly know if
>> the problem is the kernel or wpa_supplicant or something else. Last time
>> it worked was with the deprecated 2.6.24 kernel series. :(
>>
>> Ciao,
>> Rainer
>>
>> Jakob wrote:
>> > i don't have a problem using wlan with wpa on latest shr-unstable. I
>> > use mofi (included in shr) to connect to my wlan-router.
>> >
>> > jake
>> >
>> > On 6/21/09, Davide Scaini  wrote:
>> >> ...and trying with latest kernel i get a kernel panic...
>> >> do you have a working wifi (or at least a non criptic wpasupplicant
>> >> behaviour) with shr-unstable?
>> >> d
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Davide Scaini 
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi guys,
>> >>> i'm experiencing some problems with shr unstable... so i downloaded
>> >>> the
>> >>> last one (20090617) and I use that with my favourite kernel (2.28-rc4)
>> >>> with
>> >>> its modules... but the problem still remains: when i try to connect to
>> my
>> >>> home-wifi i get:
>> >>> r...@om-gta02 /etc/network $ ifup eth0
>> >>> WPA: Configuring Interface
>> >>> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
>> >>> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
>> >>> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
>> >>> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
>> >>> run-parts: /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/wpasupplicant exited with code 1
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> do you have any idea?
>> >>> thanks
>> >>> d
>> >>>
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Re: [shr-u] wpa-exiting with code 1 ???

[Jakob]

i don't have a problem using wlan with wpa on latest shr-unstable. I
use mofi (included in shr) to connect to my wlan-router.

jake

On 6/21/09, Davide Scaini  wrote:
> ...and trying with latest kernel i get a kernel panic...
> do you have a working wifi (or at least a non criptic wpasupplicant
> behaviour) with shr-unstable?
> d
>
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Davide Scaini  wrote:
>
>> Hi guys,
>> i'm experiencing some problems with shr unstable... so i downloaded the
>> last one (20090617) and I use that with my favourite kernel (2.28-rc4)
>> with
>> its modules... but the problem still remains: when i try to connect to my
>> home-wifi i get:
>> r...@om-gta02 /etc/network $ ifup eth0
>> WPA: Configuring Interface
>> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
>> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
>> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
>> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
>> run-parts: /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/wpasupplicant exited with code 1
>>
>>
>> do you have any idea?
>> thanks
>> d
>>
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Re: [OM2009] airplane mode

[Jakob]

On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 11:26 PM, jeremy jozwik wrote:
> you might be allowed to. but i have yet to actually get a gps lock after
> leaving the terminal. so whats the point?
> i tried on several occasions to get it to work. even with a lock in the
> terminal, after sitting in the plane waiting to taxi i loose the signal

I tried to track a flight once, too. The problem is probably that
airplanes are a faraday cage as they're usually made of some kind of
metal. I didn't have a window seat to test if one has a signal there.

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Re: Buzz is Fixed

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On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Michel  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> For some positive news, I received my FreeRunner back today from Golden
> Delicious Computer. They preformed the buzzfix for me and guess what?
>
> IT WORKED \0/\0/\0/\0/\0/\0/
>
> SeeYa,
> Michel
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Congratulations!
I'm still waiting patiently for mine to come back :)

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Re: Solar backpack (Solar charger)

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> A normal bike dynamo has 6V and 3W so that would be 2A of current. I
> think that should be plenty even with the losses through conversion to
> 5V DC. (Depends of course how fast you are going with your bike ;))
>
> jake
>

oh my i'm totaly telling crap her :D
it must be 0.5 A.

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Re: Solar backpack (Solar charger)

[Jakob]

On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Michal Brzozowski  wrote:
> Ok, I wasn't specific enough. What I'm looking for is exactly that thing in
> the middle :-) that will output the 500mA or 1A through a USB.
>
> Is a bike dynamo powerful enough to provide the 500mA or 1A to charge the
> Freerunner?
>
> 2009/5/23 David Reyes Samblas Martinez 

A normal bike dynamo has 6V and 3W so that would be 2A of current. I
think that should be plenty even with the losses through conversion to
5V DC. (Depends of course how fast you are going with your bike ;))

jake

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Re: shr-config

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Do you mean shr-settings? It should be already present on the image.

Jake

On 5/6/09, Nacho Seijo  wrote:
> Today I flashed shr-unstable. And I wanted to install shr-config.
> But this is what i get:
> r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg install shr-config
> Collected errors:
>  * Cannot find package shr-config.
>
> r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg list |grep shr-config
> r...@om-gta02 ~ $
>
> Has shr-config changed the name? It's not in the repository?
> I liked it, and how it was progressing
>
> Regards
>

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Re: [shr-testing] no screen lock

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you can bind the aux button to "Desktop Simple Lock".
open the wrench --> input --> keybindings

On 4/27/09, Robin Paulson  wrote:
> since i upgraded to shr-testing from april 23rd, there's no longer a
> screen lock. if i press the aux button, nothing happens. if i press
> the power button and then hit lock, it tells me "No PAM support was
> built in to Enlightenment, desk locking is disabled"
>
> any suggestions how to fix this?
>
> cheers
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Re: [SHR-Unstable] Screen blanking issue

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I did a 'xset s on' and then it seems to work until next reboot

On 4/9/09, Cameron Frazier  wrote:
> Thanks for the pointer Johny.  Seems to work.  Is it something you
> have to set on each reboot?
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Johny Tenfinger  wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 19:57, Johny Tenfinger  wrote:
>>> I don't think it's kernel issue - for me it's something with xset
>>> utility (I have that problem too)...
>>
>> Some info:
>>
>> r...@om-gta02:~# ps aux | grep [x]set
>> root      3252  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        Z    19:59   0:00
>> [xset] 
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Re: ePDFView package on opkg.org

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On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Previdi Roberto
 wrote:
> Hi list, i have made some little changes to ePDFView to scroll the
> pages in a more friendly way.
> You can find the package and the dependencies (from shr-testing) here:
>
> http://www.opkg.org/package_193.html
>
> To scroll the pages you can just scroll "out of" the actual page. I'm
> sorry for my english :)
> Let me know of any questions.
>
> roby

Thank you for the update. It improves usability quite a lot.

jake

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Re: Solar charger

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On 3/30/09, George Brooke  wrote:
> On Monday 30 March 2009 19:45:19 kimaidou wrote:
>  > Oh..did not know this... And why ? It is a real shame, no ?
>  >
>  > 2009/3/30 Bastian Muck 
>  >
>  > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>  > > Hash: SHA1
>  > >
>  > > If Neo charged in suspend you would be right. But Neo does not charge
>  > > in suspend.
>  > >
>  > > Greetungs Bastian
>
>
> It does (at least it appears to for me)
>
>  solar.george
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I once hooked a little solarpanel to it (Umpp = 4.8V) and the neo drew
something about 10mA in suspend IIRC.

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Re: [SHR] from debian to shr ;-)

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On 3/30/09, Davide Scaini  wrote:
> Hi all,
> since yesterday i used debian as my main distro, and flashed the others just
> to give a try. yesterday i flashed the last shr and i found it really...
> working! Nice!
> Today i updated upgraded... and i lost all the icons on the desktop... so
> some questions:
>  - how do i restore the icons?
> - how do i add an icon?
> - is there a better browser than midori? (i used epiphany on debian)
> - is there something like pidgin?
> thanks guys, really great work!
> d

About web-browsers look in here [1]. Dillo is  very fast, but has no
js or anything fancy. Minimo works with gmail for example. ewww seems
great to - i'm about to try it out :)
[1] http://www.opkg.org/category_5.html

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Re: Request for Feedback - SATAN

[Jakob]

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Anton Persson  wrote:
> Hi folkz!
>
> I just wanted to request user feedback for my app SATAN, if there are _any_
> users out there.. I know
> some people have at least tried, and hopefully all have succeeded, to
> install and start the application..
>
> But I want to know; have anyone succeeded making some noise with it? What
> are your thoughts?
> Do you want any specific improvements or changes?
>
>     Best regards,
>   Anton Persson

On my shr-testing it runs and i get some noise out of it, too. So it's
fun making some sounds with it, but i must admit that i didn't had
much time yet to get any deeper into it. Although it's quite awesome.

Jake

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Re: [SHR] Usage improvements - power

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On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Neo Rart  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I use SHR since January and it feels quite stable and fast.
> The only things I miss from Om2008.x is brightness setting
> and forcing higher charging current.
>
> I know brightness control is planned in SHR-settings but what to
> do in the mean time?
>
> I need also aplication similar to Battery.py available for Om2008.x.
> How can I manage charging in SHR?
>
> Regards,
>
> NR

i just have a little shell script which uses mdbus and sets a default
bightness of 40 when no value is givn.

if [ -z "$1" ]; then
brigt=40
else
brigt="$1"
fi

mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced /org/freesmartphone/Device/Display/gta02_bl

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Re: [SHR unstable] bluez-utils bluez4

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>
> When i run remoko with bluez4 installed it says this:
> r...@neo ~ $ DISPLAY=:0 remoko
> warning: x11-16 is not supported, fallback to x11
> dbus_objectInit...
> /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py:242:
> DeprecationWarning: object.__init__() takes no parameters
>  super(Connection, self).__init__(*args, **kwargs)
> could not create proxy for
> org.openmoko.accelges:/org/openmoko/accelges/Recognizer
> org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name
> org.openmoko.accelges was not provided by any .service files
> error in proxy
> failcount= 0
> dbus_objectInit...
> usage ok  (system) at 0x29ef90> :1.10 /org/freesmartphone/Usage at 0x29f9d0>
> implementing 'org.freesmartphone.Usage' at 0x29fc10>
> failcount= 0
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>  File "/usr/share/remoko/remoko/remoko", line 2103, in 
>    gui = GUI( options, args )
>  File "/usr/share/remoko/remoko/remoko", line 1537, in __init__
>    self.initialize_remoko_server()
>  File "/usr/share/remoko/remoko/remoko", line 1609, in 
> initialize_remoko_server
>    self.connection = Connect()
>  File "/usr/share/remoko/remoko/remoko_server.py", line 43, in __init__
>    self.input = dbus.Interface(bus_input.get_object('org.bluez',
> '/org/bluez/service_input'), 'org.bluez.Service')
>  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 244, in get_object
>    follow_name_owner_changes=follow_name_owner_changes)
>  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py", line 241, in 
> __init__
>    self._named_service = conn.activate_name_owner(bus_name)
>  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 183, in
> activate_name_owner
>    self.start_service_by_name(bus_name)
>  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 281, in
> start_service_by_name
>    'su', (bus_name, flags)))
>  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py", line
> 622, in call_blocking
>    message, timeout)
> dbus.exceptions.DBusException:
> org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.bluez was not
> provided by any .service files
>
> yours
>
> Jake
>
I'm sorry this output seems to come from my bluetooth not working. I
probabably messted something up with all that bluez-utils and bluez4
installing and removing..

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Re: [SHR unstable] bluez-utils bluez4

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On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Valerio Valerio  wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 1:47 AM, Carl Lobo  wrote:
>>> bluez4 provides the 4.x branch of bluez rather than the 3.x branch. It 
>>> should
>>> provide the same functionality, but some bits may work differently. You 
>>> could
>>> try to install without dependencies to see if remoko will work with bluez4.
>>
>> I tried remoko with bluez4 and it keeps saying "Waiting for connection
>> from server" or something indefinitely.. :(.
>>bluez4 has a different
>> DBus API, maybe it requires some porting?
>
> Yup, the DBus API and other things are different in Bluez4, try to run
> ReMoko through ssh or in a console and paste the output here.
>
> Best regards,
>
> --
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>
> http://www.valeriovalerio.org
>

When i run remoko with bluez4 installed it says this:
r...@neo ~ $ DISPLAY=:0 remoko
warning: x11-16 is not supported, fallback to x11
dbus_objectInit...
/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py:242:
DeprecationWarning: object.__init__() takes no parameters
  super(Connection, self).__init__(*args, **kwargs)
could not create proxy for
org.openmoko.accelges:/org/openmoko/accelges/Recognizer
org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name
org.openmoko.accelges was not provided by any .service files
error in proxy
failcount= 0
dbus_objectInit...
usage ok  :1.10 /org/freesmartphone/Usage at 0x29f9d0>
implementing 'org.freesmartphone.Usage' at 0x29fc10>
failcount= 0
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/share/remoko/remoko/remoko", line 2103, in 
gui = GUI( options, args )
  File "/usr/share/remoko/remoko/remoko", line 1537, in __init__
self.initialize_remoko_server()
  File "/usr/share/remoko/remoko/remoko", line 1609, in initialize_remoko_server
self.connection = Connect()
  File "/usr/share/remoko/remoko/remoko_server.py", line 43, in __init__
self.input = dbus.Interface(bus_input.get_object('org.bluez',
'/org/bluez/service_input'), 'org.bluez.Service')
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 244, in get_object
follow_name_owner_changes=follow_name_owner_changes)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py", line 241, in __init__
self._named_service = conn.activate_name_owner(bus_name)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 183, in
activate_name_owner
self.start_service_by_name(bus_name)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 281, in
start_service_by_name
'su', (bus_name, flags)))
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py", line
622, in call_blocking
message, timeout)
dbus.exceptions.DBusException:
org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.bluez was not
provided by any .service files

yours

Jake

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[SHR unstable] bluez-utils bluez4

[Jakob]

hi,

when i try to install remoko on shr unstable opkg says this:
Installing remoko (0.3.2) to root...
Installing bluez-utils (3.33-r3) to root...
Downloading 
http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/ipk//armv4t/bluez-utils_3.33-r3_armv4t.ipk
Collected errors:
 * Package bluez-utils wants to install file /etc/init.d/bluetooth
But that file is already provided by package  * bluez4
 * Package bluez-utils wants to install file /etc/dbus-1/system.d/bluetooth.conf
But that file is already provided by package  * bluez4

Is bluez-utils the same package as bluez4, only a newer version?

Jake

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[SHR] compile pidgin-otr plugin

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Hi,

I would like to compile the otr-lib and the otr-plugin [1] for pidgin.
However I do not have any experience in compiling an existing project
with the openmoko toolchain. The wikipage for the toolchain says only
one has to cp the src in to the example project, which isn't enough
information for me. Maybe someone can give me some hints.

[1] http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/

Jake

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Re: [Freerunner] Backlight flickering slightly

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hello marcel,

The changes in brightness are more visible, if one is in a dark room,
one's eyes are accustomed to the darkness, and the brightness is
turned down to like 5 out of 100. I guess this occures due to changes
of the load on the battery (like cpu changes freq or the like).

Jake

On 2/19/09, Marcel  wrote:
> G'evening,
>
> My FR's backlight is flickering very (!) slightly for a very long time now
> and
> I wonder what this comes from. It's the most noticeable on the grey X
> startup
> screen until the windowmanager has started. There are no other issues with
> the backlight, just this one...
>
> [GTA02A5 (I suppose, it's from one of the first batches) running Debian]
>
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Re: New Release of GuitarTune v0.20 (based on Alsa)

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On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 7:44 AM, c_c  wrote:

>  You're welcome. And thanks for the input - didn't know trumpets could be
> tuned too! Makes sense though.
>  Well, theoretically, the freq detection is only limited by the mic
> characteristics and the sample rate. Since I'm sampling at 44100 (after the
> shift to alsa) - the program should detect upto 20KHz without any prob.
>  I have, however, restricted the freq detection between 20 to 350 Hz (to
> save on calculations and ease off the lag).
>  As the dsp code gets better (as I experiment with it - hopefully:-) I'll
> increase the freq range. Does anyone have any inputs about what the range
> should be? I'm not really looking at covering all the keys in a Piano - but
> that can be done too - with greater lags.
>  Also - it would be nice to hear about what other instruments are being
> tuned! Hmmm, time to change the name of the app perhaps?!
>  I'm also in the process of pimping up the GUI. Just thought it would be
> nice to look at a sexier GTK program! I was kind of going for a guitar
> fretboard look (I know it's been overdone on the iPhone) but maybe I need to
> relook that. Any Ideas?

Maybe it's possible to create profiles for different instruments. Then
the range of the freq detection could be limited and thus we still
have fast detection.

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Re: New Release of GuitarTune v0.20 (based on Alsa)

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Thanks for this great app.
It works pretty good.
A friend also tried to tune a trumpet with it, which is no problem either.

Jake

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Re: [fso]is there any way to accesswifi eitherthrough the ui? the shell?

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regarding browsers i prefer minimo http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Minimo
it has a quite nice interface

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Re: Navit desktop symbol not visible in FSO ?

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On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 2:16 PM, lollisoft  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> the current navit release seems to have a new desktop symbol, but it didn't
> show up on FSO (Installed 'more Homework').
>
> The files are here /usr/share/icons/hicolor/22x22/apps/navit.png and
> /usr/share/icons/hicolor/128x128/apps/navit.png
>
> And the desktop file is here /usr/share/applications/navit.desktop
>
> What's wrong ?
>
> Thanks
>
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hi lothar,
you might want to read http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Customize_Application_Icons
Also i noticed that you may have to change the section Categories= in
the respective .desktop file, because some keywords like e.g. Utilitiy
let it appear on the desktop and some don't. Maybe someone else knows
more about this.
Jake

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Re: Community Updates/December 15th, 2008

[Jakob]

Thanks for another great community update.
It really helps me to keep track of what's going on in the community.
Keep it up Minh!

Jake

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Re: Optimization team update (11/23 ~ 11/29)

[Jakob]

Thanks Steve for this little insight.
As the mod doesn't seem that hard to do, I'm looking forward to my
Freerunner for christmas (regardless if its A7 or a not yet reworked
A6 :) ).

Jake

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Steve Mosher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>  Joerg went over the change for a5/a6 with me the other night.
>  Over the next few days I'll drive to get an SOP published for
>  the change. But for now I'll just explain it in words. The modification
> should work for both a5&a6. It consists of:
>
>  1. Removing the front cover.
>  2. Changing a resistor ( in some cases this is not necessary)
>  3. Adding a Cap.
>
> Steve

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Re: Optimization team update (11/23 ~ 11/29)

[Jakob]

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 9:42 PM, Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> "buzz / echo / hiss"... no software change can fix buzz.  It's baked
> into the hardware and you will have to do fairly extreme meddling with
> your soldering iron to impact it.

Would it be better to wait until A7 is out and then buy a Freerunner?
How hard is it to do the component change on a A6?

Jake

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Re: GPRS working with SIMYO

[Jakob Steltner]

Am Thu, 07 Aug 2008 23:36:07 -0700
schrieb Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Michael Kluge wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > Woo-hoo -- I managed to get an GPRS connection:
> > 
>
> Please add your scripts and instructions to the wiki! This is
> excellent information.
> 
> Thanks,
> Michael

I added my scripts for connecting to simyo to the wiki, I think they
are originally based on his work.

~ Jakob

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Re: asu and handwriting recognition of qtopia

[Jakob Steltner]

On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 09:37:56 +1000
Lorn Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> arne anka wrote:
> > is the handwriting recognition of qtopia available in asu or is
> > there work going on to port it (or even use another handwriting
> > recognition)?
> 
> For X, there is rosetta, but I am not sure any work has been done on
> it for a while
> http://handhelds.org/project/rosetta/
> 
> 
> 
I've tried rosetta (on OM2007.2), but the training application needed
some modifications to run at all because the application would not
display itself properly (wrong assumptions about screen size).
Rosetta is at least promising when tweaked and used together with a good
word list. 

What makes it unusable is that the automatic keyboard adds
to the screen space needed by rosetta and then there's simply not
enough screen left for the main application (e.g. SMS editor)
A workaround for this is to re-enable the keyboard toggle applet
in /etc/matchbox/session as described in the wiki. (I have the matchbox
keyboard running, but I guess it would be the same with multitap).

Some simple general keyboard input method management would be really
nice for OM. E.g. like an extended keyboard applet that shows and hides
keyboard apps associated with the chosen input method.

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Re: Accelerometer

[Jakob Westhoff]

Andreas Kemnade wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 20:26:45 +0200
> Tobias Diedrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Andreas Kemnade wrote:
>>
>>> I have tried to do get some values from the accelerometers.
>>> I get from /dev/input/event3 these values:
>>>
>>> 000b070: 5de6 7148 4108 0200 0200  ee08   ].qHA...
>>> 000b080: 5de6 7148 7b08 0200 0200 0100 1200   ].qH{...
>>> 000b090: 5de6 7148 9608 0200 0200 0200 2a03   ].qH*...
>>>
>>> As far as I understnd thee first line is for the x axis,
>>> the second for the y-axis, the thirs for the z-axis.
>>>
>>> The value for the x axis does not change.
>>>
>>> I get no data for /dev/input/event2.
>> From a cursory look, "hexdump /dev/input/event2" and
>> "hexdump /dev/input/event3" both show accelerometer data on my phone.
>>
> ok, neod seems to do something with them and seems to sometimes reconfigure 
> them.
> That seems to be the reason why I got no data.
> I have managed to get values from event2, too now.

That sounds quite interesting. I got the exact same problem as you are
experiencing. Could you tell me what you did, to get the event data from
 the first accelerometer?

Greetings
Jakob

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Re: Laptop Replacement

[Jakob]

On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> After seeing the  pictures of the Neo connected to a battery powered
> hub, I looked around the internet to see if there were any that could
> hold more batteries, but couldn't find any. Then I thought that it
> would be nice to have a battery powering the hub and fast charging the
> Neo at the same time, but such a thing does not seem to exist. So I
> took the circuit at http://www.elecfree.com/electronic/ipod-mp3-player-
> charger-by-mc34063/and
>  doubled it up to provide power for the hub and
> the Neo. The preliminary results can be seen at
> http://www.mamereplay.net/neo1973/
>
> The hard drive and the USB ethernet card were working, but I am busy
> updating my machine so I can build a kernel with support for the
> wireless card.
> I also need to thank whoever designed the USB port on the Neo, because
> I wired the cable the wrong way around when I first connected it and
> the phone was still working afterwards.
>
> Michael.
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This looks really freakish (no offence i like it that way ;). Would be
interessting
to know how long the batterie lasts with this setup.

Jake
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Re: Hardware Block Diagram

[Jakob]

may be you're looking for something like this:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:SimpleComponentDiagram.jpg
well it's quite simplified, but i just found that on the wiki..

On 6/5/08, Dale Schumacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've done several searches on the wiki and I can't seem to find any block
> diagram of the Freerunner hardware.  Is there any such thing?  It would sure
> help to clarify how all this stuff is connected.
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 09:29:36 +0100
>> Subject: Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo
>
> ...
>
>> We would rightly deserve to get our asses laughed at if we did that.
>> You're likely thinking about the actual SD Card interface is now via the
>> Glamo, which has an SD interface poking out of it.  WIFI is hooked to
>> the CPU SDIO bus and we don't otherwise use these buses.
>>
>> | If it's connected to the address/data bus, why is it so slow and why
>> can't
>> | DMA be used to copy data to it?
>>
>> DMA can be used, I seem to recall someone saying they did something with
>> it in Xglamo, but PIO isn't where the problems are coming from.
>>
>> The Glamo offers normal async memory bus interface which we use, but it
>> has a bunch of timing constraints.  (There is a synchronous burst bus
>> mode that we don't use because the CPU doesn't support it and adding a
>> CPLD in there to translate will eat power and doesn't make sense.)
>>
>

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Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions

[Jakob]

Hi to all (have been reading along this list for a long time :),

Sure you can use the Freerunner without gsm. It will just be was any PDA
without gsm-modem (well it will be better ;)

Jake

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Mo Abrahams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> How does one go about getting the new software version as a qemu image?
> I am intrigued... and since I have (in the last week or so) started
> having doubts about getting a freerunner I would very much like
> something to inspire me again. It is not the freerunners fault, by the
> way, that I am having doubts. Just that I have just got myself a new
> contract and I quite like the phone I am getting with it... while on the
> topic... can freerunner be used without a simcard (obviously not the gsm
> parts,  but everything else?)?
>
> Mo.
>
>
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