Re: GNU/Linux Wrist Watch
TI's Chronos would be able to display the things you're after: http://focus.ti.com/docs/toolsw/folders/print/ez430-chronos.html You just need to install the wireless module for it in / near your FreeRunner. Cheers, Joseph On 4 May 2010 02:24, Esben Stien b...@esben-stien.name wrote: Does something like this exist?. If not, please, someone start making it. I really want a thick wrist watch with a big display that follows the curvature of my arm. It can provide several status indicators, like new mail, new jabber messages, time, location, etc and notify you of whatever. There's millions of awesome stuff you could do with something like this. It can have a simple interaction interface and you can pull out your freerunner when you need to do the other more advanced stuff. Please, someone start making it;). -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s t n m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@ n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The Origin of the Freerunner Shape!
Has there been any explanation of the guitar pick that shipped with the GTA01? If I remember correctly, Sean said that it was an interesting story that he'd tell one day. I never saw the follow up though. Cheers, Joseph On 13 April 2010 13:46, Werner Almesberger wer...@openmoko.org wrote: Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: I have finally found where the shape and visual appearance of the Neo1973 and Freerunner come from: Close :-) I've been told that the case originally came from a phone intended for the Chinese Olympics. The rounded form would mimick the outline of the Olympic rings. This probably also explains the rugged design. As far as I know, that phone never made it to production and the Openmoko project then inherited the device, radically changed its internals, and so on. - Werner ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The Origin of the Freerunner Shape!
Well I know that, but a fingernail does the job just as well. In fact, own the phone for a while and gravity will do the job for you. Sean said, however, that there was a good story about choosing a guitar pick as the case opener... On 13 April 2010 14:01, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com writes: Has there been any explanation of the guitar pick that shipped with the GTA01? If I remember correctly, Sean said that it was an It's for opening the case. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some questions about TangoGPS
(Maybe thats enough OT for now :) ) This isn't an OT list, thank the lord. We do use apostrophes though! ;-) Joseph 2010/1/8 Fabian Schölzel fabian.schoel...@googlemail.com: 2010/1/8 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com: and I almost always top-post, so what :) So i'm trying middle posting right now! ;) I made a joke about his In the name of... heading, but I don't care what people write to me it's about the same as yo nigga biatches, whats up?; not really my kind of talk, but hey, if it rocks your boat.. I didn't meant you with my comment, Yorick. Cheers, Fabian (Maybe thats enough OT for now :) ) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: TangoGPS font size for speed indicator
I have founded tangogps and spent over 2000 hours of development on it so quite naturally I am the SABDFL of tangogps. And it is a rather successful project: it has been picked up by over 25 distributions and it has far more than 100.000 happy users in pretty much every corner of the world. I honestly believe that if it wasn't for TangoGPS, and therefore yourself Marcus, the initial uptake of the Openmoko devices would have been much slower. This community owes a great deal to your hard work. OpenStreetMap has probably benefited too as well. TangoGPS demonstrated that the Neo1973 and FreeRunner were (are) viable platforms and that there was (is) value to be gained from a phone running Open Source software. By demonstrated I mean that you could give the phone to someone, have them walk around outside, and they'd come back excited about what could be done. I remember getting an engineering sample of the FreeRunner and having many email conversations with Markus about getting TangoGPS to run on it. It wasn't exactly hard, but I was known to make a mistake or two along the way; at least in the end TangoGPS was about the first application I ran on the FreeRunner and I was, I think, the first person to ever do it. Thankfully Openmoko inc saw the value and sent Marcus a phone too. Thanks for all your contributions Marcus, we all owe you a lot, even if some people fail to realise that. Cheers, Joseph 2010/1/7 Marcus Bauer marcus.ba...@gmail.com: On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 23:36:21 +0200 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: The community shall be the judge and point me where did I go wrong. The community did already: Risto Kurppa, you have been sending me your massively abusive emails after the release of 0.9.3. They were so far beyond anything acceptable that I a) got a lawyer in Helsinki to deal with you and b) informed the Ubuntu Community Council. The Ubuntu Community Council consists of experienced and well respected members of the open source community and the council was very concerned about your behaviour, Risto Kurppa. The reply was written by a certain well known 'Mark Shuttleworth' from which I guess I can cite the following quote: | Thanks for raising this with us. The language he has used is very | unfortunate, it does come across as I will embarrass you unless you | respond the way I want you to, and that's not something we could | support in an Ubuntu member. I have nothing to add to that. The fact that you have registered #tangogps on freenode against the policy that only people affiliated with the project shall register a channel and after your inadequate behaviour in the past is thus pure provocation. Open source / free software is a meritocracy - the more you do for a project the more you can influence it. Actually writing friendly emails gains everyone quickly influence. Writing abusive emails like you did to me a year ago, Risto Kurppa, certainly does not gain you influence. I have founded tangogps and spent over 2000 hours of development on it so quite naturally I am the SABDFL of tangogps. And it is a rather successful project: it has been picked up by over 25 distributions and it has far more than 100.000 happy users in pretty much every corner of the world. Just have a look how many projects are on sourceforge that are 0.0.1 alpha and never took off. I'd say less than 5% of the projects come to life and stay alive for more than 2 years. It needs dedication, energy and cojones to get a project off the ground. And a good deal of the ernergy comes from people using it, from people sending feedback, from people spreading the word because they like it. Thanks to all those that have one way or other contributed to tangoGPS - your energy was and is well appreciated and put to good use :) Marcus Bauer Developer of tangoGPS - the fast and user friendly map viewer http://www.tangogps.org/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to publish a piece of software in python?
An ipk file is just a load of files packaged together. These are distributed as you see fit, then opkg installs your application by extracting the relevant files to the places you want them. All very easy (said, literally, as an average Joe) if you use the ipkg-build script. More info: http://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=IPKG_Howto Of course, a good way to learn is to grab any ipk file, extract it, and see what it does. Cheers, Joseph 2009/11/29 Ivo van den Maagdenberg ivo.vdmaagdenb...@gmail.com: I have a rather simple request: what is the procedure to publish a set of python script files, into a distributable package for releasing it to the opkg feeds? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain posed me some challanges. After reaching How to create your own project from the sample project it seems this whole method is for a c-programs... this turns me down, sorry. So, where is the simple 5-10 step procedure for average joes like me? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Increasing GPS accuracy with EGNOS
Someone tell me what command to run on what distro and I'll let you all know... Oh, and somebody write a SISNeT application too ;-) http://www.egnos-pro.esa.int/sisnet/index.html 2009/10/5 Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com: This is probably worth checking to see what is actually happening when in Europe, Someone tell me what command to run on what distro and I'll let you all know... 2009/10/5 Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk: On Sunday 04 October 2009, Erik Lundin wrote: Good news, indeed. Does the Neo FreeRunner support EGNOS signals? Both the hardware and software? http://www.u-blox.com/en/download-center.html?task=view.downloadcid=83 According to this the Antaris 4 is capable of using WAAS, EGNOS and MSAS, collectively known as SBAS, and the signal is received through the GPS antenna. By default it is enabled, with one search channel, although this can be configured through the ubx protocol. The status can also be shown in ubx messages. This is probably worth checking to see what is actually happening when in Europe, as when it was written EGNOS was in test mode, and its use was disabled by default. It is unclear whether this was because of a 'test mode' flag in the signal or hardcoding in the firmware. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tangogps 0.9.7 release
myself, i'd be inclined to ignore them and carry on uploading tracks +1 2009/10/3 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com: 2009/10/3 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no: Actually, I got a mail once telling me not to do that. Seems there were limited room on servers, and too much of my tracks were known stuff. So now I only edit with josm, I don't upload tracks. who told you that? i'd be very surprised if that was anyone who actually had an involvement with the osm infrastructure (servers, etc.). the people involved in maintaining and directing osm are pretty light in their instructions to everyone else (which has good and bad side effects...) myself, i'd be inclined to ignore them and carry on uploading tracks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Increasing GPS accuracy with EGNOS
This is probably worth checking to see what is actually happening when in Europe, Someone tell me what command to run on what distro and I'll let you all know... 2009/10/5 Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk: On Sunday 04 October 2009, Erik Lundin wrote: Good news, indeed. Does the Neo FreeRunner support EGNOS signals? Both the hardware and software? http://www.u-blox.com/en/download-center.html?task=view.downloadcid=83 According to this the Antaris 4 is capable of using WAAS, EGNOS and MSAS, collectively known as SBAS, and the signal is received through the GPS antenna. By default it is enabled, with one search channel, although this can be configured through the ubx protocol. The status can also be shown in ubx messages. This is probably worth checking to see what is actually happening when in Europe, as when it was written EGNOS was in test mode, and its use was disabled by default. It is unclear whether this was because of a 'test mode' flag in the signal or hardcoding in the firmware. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tangogps 0.9.7 release
You may instead always have the track logging switched on - so you will always have all information. And maybe in twenty years time it is funny to see where you were ;) And, of course, there's no harm in uploading a track to OSM even if someone has been there before - even better if you go down a well trodden path and then deviate from it. Oh yeah, and I also spent a couple of days walking around Cairo convinced that TangoGPS was logging where I was going until I decided to just leave it on all the time ;-) 2009/9/22 Marcus Bauer marcus.ba...@gmail.com: On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 12:38:00 +0200 Michael Zanetti michael_zane...@gmx.net wrote: Sometimes, when I use tangogps for navigating I end up in areas not yet mapped on OSM. In that case it would be great to be able to store the current track afterwards if the Track logging has not been started before. Currently TangoGPS throws away the current track information if one presses Start Logging. Hello Michael, This is internally a different data structure in order to save memory, lacking time, speed and altitude information. You may instead always have the track logging switched on - so you will always have all information. And maybe in twenty years time it is funny to see where you were ;) Marcus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2.6.31 is out, where is my ultimate kernel?
* improved everything. I think this is the least we could expect! ;-) But yes, I'm also interested as a non-kernel person about hearing what's happening in that area. Could it go in the community updates? Thanks all, keep up the good work :) 2009/9/10 Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com: Hi! I just want to notice the list that the 2.6.31 final kernel is out. Everybody was waiting for it, to be able properly merge all patches floating around. So I expect with the new kernel the following features: * KMS * BFS scheduler * imporved wifi * improved gprs * improved resume time * improved battery management, aka dump battery support * No WSOD anymore for sure (not even in cold/warm or temperature change) * improved everything. Can the kernel developers let the community know, when new important things happens? Is the new git structure is already in place? Is the patches are revisited and cleaned up for the new kernel? What patches didnt go upstream? There are *many* interesting questions, which can be interested to us, non kernel hackers. Btw, who are the people behind it, who is responsible for what? Some kind of summerization, and updates about the process would be more then welcome on this link. (I think others agree with me). So start flow a bit of information to us, mortals;) Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2.6.31 is out, where is my ultimate kernel?
You are more than welcome to add content :) Don't think it would be very insightful comment though ;-) 2009/9/10 Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.pl: [cut] But yes, I'm also interested as a non-kernel person about hearing what's happening in that area. Could it go in the community updates? You are more than welcome to add content :) [cut] -- Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Interesting Linux development for lower resources machines from Con Kolivas
Great, thanks Tom, I'll have a look at that later. Does it seem to make any difference for you? Cheers, Joseph 2009/9/9 Thomas White t...@bitwiz.org.uk: On Sun, 6 Sep 2009 15:27:13 +0100 Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com wrote: Now for someone to find the time to try this ;-) I applied the latest BFS patch to the andy-tracking branch of the kernel but it wouldn't build - probably an indication of my noob kernel skills rather than the applicability of the patch, however. Would also be very interested if someone else got this to work ;-) Here's my first stab at getting the patch to apply to our kernel, done against drm-tracking but applicable to andy-tracking as well. Your milage may vary - I don't really know my way around these parts of the kernel, and I may have just done it wrong, but it compiles (with a couple of warnings) and boots for me: http://www.bitwiz.org.uk/openmoko/BFS-andy-tracking-and-drm-tracking-BARELY-TESTED.patch Tom -- Thomas White t...@bitwiz.org.uk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Interesting Linux development for lower resources machines from Con Kolivas
SHR + 2.6.31 + BFS + OpenWRT drivers = win? 2009/9/8 Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com: On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabrar...@ansol.org wrote: http://twitter.com/cyanogen/status/3836404163 One last thing.. you know the lag you get when your phone rings and it doesn't display right away? Yeah thats gone now. On a wl500 router the performance hit is 1.5 time faster;) http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernelm=125233663823328w=2 Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Interesting Linux development for lower resources machines from Con Kolivas
What's up with the drivers from OpenWRT? Are they different? Why aren't they merged? I've only really read on here about them, but I'm told that some are complete rewrites that provide potentially big improvements. Don't know about their status in other distributions, however. Forgot to add + new glamo stuff in my list too; looks like the pieces are coming together... Cheers, Joseph 2009/9/8 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@ansol.org: What's up with the drivers from OpenWRT? Are they different? Why aren't they merged? On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 11:04:56AM +0100, Joseph Reeves wrote: SHR + 2.6.31 + BFS + OpenWRT drivers = win? 2009/9/8 Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com: On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabrar...@ansol.org wrote: http://twitter.com/cyanogen/status/3836404163 One last thing.. you know the lag you get when your phone rings and it doesn't display right away? Yeah thats gone now. On a wl500 router the performance hit is 1.5 time faster;) http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernelm=125233663823328w=2 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Interesting Linux development for lower resources machines from Con Kolivas
Now for someone to find the time to try this ;-) I applied the latest BFS patch to the andy-tracking branch of the kernel but it wouldn't build - probably an indication of my noob kernel skills rather than the applicability of the patch, however. Would also be very interested if someone else got this to work ;-) Cheers, Joseph 2009/9/2 c_c cchan...@yahoo.com: Hi, I used to use the -ck patches for my kernels while they were around and they were always more responsive on my desktop than the standard kernels. If this makes the FR more responsive - its would be worthwhile trying - just to see if it makes any difference at all. Now for someone to find the time to try this ;-) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Interesting-Linux-development-for-lower-resources-machines-from-Con-Kolivas-tp3566462p3567588.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: which gps app can do this?
gvSIG Mobile 0.1.4 was released today, here's a guide that should help you: http://gvsigmobileonopenmoko.wordpress.com/download/ Create a shapefile of your coast line (or download a shapefile for a country) and you should be good to go. http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/unofficial_gvsig_mobile_0_1 Cheers, Joseph 2009/6/28 lanzo lanz...@gmail.com: Hi! I'd like to be using my FR on my little boat as marine GPS. I was curious if, in your opinion, it could be possible to constantly show the distance between me and the nearest point on the coast line. This would be important because in my country (and i guess everywhere) there are rules about the little boats distances from the coast and I cannot overcome 3 nautical miles. I know it should be possible to show the distances between my present position and any given point, but what about something always displaying the distances between my position and the nearest point on the coast? is there maybe any more in-topic forum where i can ask this? Thank you very much for any answer! bye! :) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/which-gps-app-can-do-this--tp3169715p3169715.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using WMS servers on TangoGPS
Great stuff! :) What map projections are supported? I guess just spherical mercator? Cheers, Joseph 2009/7/3 David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com: Dear all, I have published a piece of PHP in the tuxbrain blog[1] that allows to translate the OSM tile sistem used by TangoGPS(and omgps) to a standard OGC WMS 1.1.1 web services, In the code[2] is an example implemented the Institut Catala de Cartografia (http://www.icc.cat) but I think the hard stuff (changing coordinates), change datum, etc can be reused to other wms server out there, the maps usually are free aviable for non comercial use, so I think it can be interesting to use other maps source than OSM (low detail in some zones) or google maps (not able to mass download). The article is in spanish but the source code comments are on english. As always comments are welcome. [1]http://www.tuxbrain.com/usando-mapas-wms-en-tangogps [2]http://www.tuxbrain.com/sites/default/files/tiletoUTM-0_1_tar.bz2 Regards -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: which gps app can do this?
I woder if you could hack something up based on the upcoming Courier Mode feature in gvSIG Mobile: http://gvsigmobileonopenmoko.wordpress.com/2009/06/24/with-the-new-courier-mode-openmoko-actively-guides-you-through-the-city/ Cheers, Joseph 2009/6/28 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm: Alternatively, place POIs along the coast (how dense depends on the accuracy you want to have). Calculate the minimum distance from the set of POIs. 2009/6/28 mqy meng.qing...@gmail.com hi lanzo, I have to say that your problem is interesting, but it's a bit too specific for a GPS application to do this. One quick and dirty solution is: You write a small application which: 1) calculate a polygon area which contains the allowed range. to do this you have to use web map or standalone map. The polygon nodes are lat/lon pairs. 2) get GPS fix from fso ogpsd through DBUS API. this is not difficult with python 3) periodically (say every five seconds) test if current position goes out of predefined area. if the test result is true, then warn with sound (aplay command). To see where you are, you can run a GPS application at the same time. I'm the writer of omgps, I'm planning to extend omgps to solve this kind of problem -- allow user register his/her python script as plugin, omgps periodically call each plugin, passing parameters of current lat/lon/altitude, etc. Periodically can be defined as: (1) on each fix (2) every N seconds. Welcome your feed back :) lanzo wrote: Hi! I'd like to be using my FR on my little boat as marine GPS. I was curious if, in your opinion, it could be possible to constantly show the distance between me and the nearest point on the coast line. This would be important because in my country (and i guess everywhere) there are rules about the little boats distances from the coast and I cannot overcome 3 nautical miles. I know it should be possible to show the distances between my present position and any given point, but what about something always displaying the distances between my position and the nearest point on the coast? is there maybe any more in-topic forum where i can ask this? Thank you very much for any answer! bye! :) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/which-gps-app-can-do-this--tp3169715p3170060.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to fix a broken AUX button ?
Great, thanks Phillippe for letting us know! Hope you're enjoying your button :) Cheers, Joseph 2009/6/24 Philippe Lhardy philippelha...@chez.com: 2009/6/7 Daniel Willmann dan...@totalueberwachung.de: Hey, On Sun, 7 Jun 2009 15:42:07 +0200 Philippe Lhardy philippelha...@chez.com wrote: 2009/5/26 Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com: Hi Philippe, Sorry I can't help you with your problem, but I was just replying to say that I dropped mine the other day and the AUX button stopped working... Keep us informed of any developments with yours. I got my openmoko back debuzzed and with a new AUX button working ! Daniel Willmann fixed both quickly. Most of wating time was shipment travel france-germany back and forth. He replaced it with one that he got on another spare phone, seems it was not an easy task. Now we know that this is doable :-) Thanks ! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: a new keyboard - discuss and critique
There is lots of space wasted. Why hasn't he put the key lines together inverted to each other? I think the fact that it's not like you describe the whole idea of the design ;) Go to the page on El Reg and try and type your name by pushing your monitor. It's stupid, yes, but it gives you an idea of how it would work. It seems, without any feedback, to be very nice. The fact that all the triangles are orientated the same way means you get a huge area of triangular free space around each key, that lets you mash at them without accidentally hitting another. I don't think it's about training your hands as others have said, it's about providing a key with a lot of free space around it - effectively you've made the key bigger (because you can hit any are around it and sort of hit the right one without mis-hitting another) whilst keeping the overall size very small. Its genius is its simplicity. Joseph 2009/6/3 neove...@freerunner spa...@ymail.com: There is lots of space wasted. Why hasn't he put the key lines together inverted to each other? Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote: apparently, triangular buttons produce less errors. http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/06/02/crocodile_keyboard/ i'm not totally convinced, but it would be worth a go, i think now, is it possible to coerce raster's keyboard into using anything other than square keys? Looks interesting! r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/a-new-keyboard---discuss-and-critique-tp3016473p3016823.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Tangogps or navit with prepackaged Europe map
links at osm where others have put together more or less regularyl updated binary map files of several regions of the world. That's made me think - we (as in the community) could provide packages via opkg.org that provided regular updates for various countries / regions / zoom levels. Would be very easy to do, just make sure that someone has up to date tiles (OSMupdater, for example) and package them up to be extracted to /media/card/maps It's extra work for one person, and extra load on opkg.org, but for us lazy people out there, it'd be great. I might even try it out with a South England example myself. Cheers, Joseph 2009/5/28 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de: don't know about any images. but with a map for all of europe 2gb is pretty little. it certainly won't work with tangogps -- once i tried to get all of germany in a usable resolution for tangogps and it exceed by far 2gb. so, your best bet would be navit with its binary maps which are much smaller for the same are covered. ho to fetch a map for a selected area is described in the navit wiki (in short: wget an url with the coordinates), and there are even a lot of links at osm where others have put together more or less regularyl updated binary map files of several regions of the world. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [omgps] important updates
Very nice, thanks! I'm going to have to practice using the little buttons, but otherwise I've got no complaints. Will try producing a gpx trace of my drive home (now that I've discovered my Nokia can produce gpx traces it's breathed a bit of life into my otherwise unloved N96). Cheers, Joseph 2009/5/26 mqy meng.qing...@gmail.com: Although there is a thread about omgps, I think I'd list the important things here. Those who have installed previous version(s) are recommend to do a update. download url: http://omgps.googlecode.com/files/omgps_0.1_armv4t-20090527-1.ipk Important updates since first release on 2009-05-21: --- 1. bugfix: keep cursor in view does not always behave as expected. 2. bugfix: SIGSEGV on stopping track. see http://code.google.com/p/omgps/issues/detail?id=2 3. bugfix: Full screen mode, popup message dialogs does not show on above -- deadlock screen. 4. defect: speed unit, add mph and km/h. see http://code.google.com/p/omgps/issues/detail?id=1 5. new feature: sky map to show satellite positions. Regards, mqy -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-omgps--important-updates-tp2977563p2977563.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] create opkg-packages
I've not followed these instructions, but they turned up after a quick google: http://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=IPKG_Howto ipkg-build is what I use - all works without any drama. Cheers, Joseph 2009/5/27 Vinzenz Hersche hers...@puzzle.ch: hello there, i want to create a opkg-package, but i didn't found ipkg-utils on shr, also not on ubuntu. so i tried to create this otherwhise, with the same structure, but if i look into another opk-package, the files in the tar.gz control are childfolders of ., mine isn't (folder . does already exist) and if i save the top-archive as .deb-file, it seems to work, but if i renamed it to ipk/opk, it doesn't work (with ark). the other packages does work normal with ark. so where i became the ipkg-utils? ftp-server with the files seems also to be down :/ greets ps: just by the way, if someone knows this; is there any library with e-mail- support for vala? :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] create opkg-packages
You should be able to get it from the openmoko tool chain (although I haven't looked at it for a while). If not, I've attached my (possibly old) copy to this email. Hope it helps with the packaging, Joseph 2009/5/27 Vinzenz Hersche hers...@puzzle.ch: yes, i belive that this works without great problems.. but my problem is another one.. i couldn't open ftp://ftp.handhelds.org/packages/ipkg-utils (tried with firefox konqueror), and all instructions said, it must be downloaded there.. i also couldn't install the files with apt-get install ipkg-utils (on ubuntu) or opkg install ipkg-utils (on the moko), so i haven't the programm.. the other try was by hand (think, it's just a gzip..), but this also wasn't work.. so had someone a idea where the ipkg-util-files are? or is the problem with the handhelds.org-server just mine? Am Mittwoch, 27. Mai 2009 18.37:23 schrieb Joseph Reeves: I've not followed these instructions, but they turned up after a quick google: http://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=IPKG_Howto ipkg-build is what I use - all works without any drama. Cheers, Joseph 2009/5/27 Vinzenz Hersche hers...@puzzle.ch: hello there, i want to create a opkg-package, but i didn't found ipkg-utils on shr, also not on ubuntu. so i tried to create this otherwhise, with the same structure, but if i look into another opk-package, the files in the tar.gz control are childfolders of ., mine isn't (folder . does already exist) and if i save the top-archive as .deb-file, it seems to work, but if i renamed it to ipk/opk, it doesn't work (with ark). the other packages does work normal with ark. so where i became the ipkg-utils? ftp-server with the files seems also to be down :/ greets ps: just by the way, if someone knows this; is there any library with e-mail- support for vala? :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ipkg-build Description: Binary data ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to fix a broken AUX button ?
Hi Philippe, Sorry I can't help you with your problem, but I was just replying to say that I dropped mine the other day and the AUX button stopped working... Keep us informed of any developments with yours. Cheers, Joseph 2009/5/25 Philippe Lhardy philippelha...@chez.com: Hi, I am looking for a way to fix my Neo FreeRunner that felt badly on the floor. AUX button was not soldered anymore and i definitely broke the button by trying to glue it. soldering is too small for me and i don't have right piece to fix it and i am not good at that stuff either. I am ready to invest 40 euros ( if it less, then its for you. ) to get that button working again (ie getting piece + soldering done ). I am in french riviera area. I was wondering if it could be done together with a debuzzing session ( if needed ). P. Lhardy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: opkg: fork failed segmentation fault
Hi Pander, Is this related to this known (old) bug: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2271 If so: pkill paroli pkill frameworkd opkg update opkg upgrade fixes it. Cheers, Joseph 2009/5/19 Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net: Hi, I'm running on testing distro an opkg upgrade via wifi and get this at the end: opkg: fork failed Segmentation fault What is going on and how to fix this. Thanks, Pander ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Life in Openmoko Phones
The wiki says: # Remove one accelerometer and connect both interrupts of the remaining one Is connecting both interrupts of the remaining one an expected benefit? Do both current accelerometers only have one interrupt connected? What does that even mean? Cheers, Joseph 2009/5/19 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:52:22AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: That still doesn't explain why removing one of the two accelerometers is a good idea. What is the benefit? Why not remove them both? Is it that all the programs that use the accelerometers (as of now) only use one of the two? I only use one for omnewrotate because that's all I need to infer the position in order to call xrandr for rotating the screen accordingly. There are possible uses for two, the least of which are redundancy and double checking. Since it was decided to remove it, there must have been some kind of expected benefit. I'm curious about the expected benefits as well. But the wiki only states facts and not the reasoning behind them... Rui -- Frink! Today is Prickle-Prickle, the 66th day of Discord in the YOLD 3175 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all] usb headset connector?
You can see the extra pins in the product image in that first link you provide. Joseph 2009/5/17 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de: ok, if i understand correctly, all of _these_ adapters[1] work by using additional pins not specified in the usb standard, ie not by some driver magic that sends sound via the standard pins, right? [1] not just the cingular one, but also http://www.amazon.com/3-5mm-Stereo-Adapter-T-Mobile-Diamond/dp/B0011WDLES/ref=pd_sbs_a_2_img/184-2544850-3162110 or http://www.amazon.com/OEM-Converter-Cingular-T-Mobile-Cavalier/dp/B001RXTDP2/ref=pd_cp_e_1_img/184-2544850-3162110?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DERpf_rd_s=center-41pf_rd_r=03ZX1CK3AZE3RG0W2AVJpf_rd_t=201pf_rd_p=413863501pf_rd_i=B000UHY6XU ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all] usb headset connector?
Unless it's not a soundcard at all, but is just a simple adapter. I.e. the phone manufacturer tweaks the usb port a little to include the audio lines in the same plug (although obviously not at the same time - there must be some switching mechanism to go between USB mode and headset mode) and then sells the adapter. That's how I'd do it; must be more profitable than making a tiny USB soundcard and selling it for $6.99 Cheers, Joseph 2009/5/15 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com: 2009/5/15 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de: i remember having asked that a long time ago, but here goes again: is there any way/ work going on to make one of those usb-to-headset-connectors working, most likely with a kernel module? it's effectively a simple usb soundcard, isn't it? so long as it's based on a common enough audio chipset, there's no reason why it won't work out of the box, shouldn't it? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2.6.28+ kernel] usb host/device mode switcher
I should update mine to work: http://www.opkg.org/package_40.html But if you can use vim you can opkg install it then edit /usr/bin/usb.sh as per the instructions on the opkg.org page. If I can find two minutes at some point I'll test / re-package and update. Cheers, Joseph 2009/5/14 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com: 2009/5/10 Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.com: On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 02:39, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote: where are you finding the revision you quoted? In shr-unstable, as it was said before ;) right, after going round the houses, this module is apparently not in -testing so, back to the original question: are there any apps written to work with new kernels (.29), which will switch the usb port between host and device? afaics, the apps on opkg.org are all written to the old /sys layout and shortom has not been updated recently or, is anybody successfully using either of these apps on a recent kernel? cheers ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [neovento 5] applications!
try: ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200/24 Joseph 2009/5/13 Tony Berth tonybe...@googlemail.com: when I type (as root!) 'ip addr add 192.168.0.200/24 dev usb0', I get: bash: ip: command not found Thanks Tony On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:24 PM, neovento schumi_8_2...@gmx.de wrote: Ok, I do it like that: iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 ip addr add 192.168.0.200/24 dev usb0 ifconfig usb0 up ssh r...@192.168.0.202 Tony Berth wrote: I changed that to 192.168.0.0 but still the same problem! When I plug FR in, the console displays the following: usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2 usb 1-1: config 2 interface 1 has no altsetting 0 usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 2 choices eth1: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-:00:1d.0-1, CDC Ethernet Device, 00:1f:11:01:53:86 usbcore: registered new driver cdc_ether Thanks -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-neovento-5--applications%21-tp2881940p2884146.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [neovento 5] applications!
Sorry, I mistook what you were trying to do (serves me right for skim-reading the list). The error is pretty telling, however; you don't have USB0. Once you get that back you can add a root as per Arne's suggestions. Cheers and apologies, Joseph 2009/5/13 Tony Berth tonybe...@googlemail.com: get then the following: SIOCSIFNETMASK: No such device SIOCSIFADDR: No such device usb0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device Thanks Tony On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com wrote: try: ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200/24 Joseph 2009/5/13 Tony Berth tonybe...@googlemail.com: when I type (as root!) 'ip addr add 192.168.0.200/24 dev usb0', I get: bash: ip: command not found Thanks Tony On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:24 PM, neovento schumi_8_2...@gmx.de wrote: Ok, I do it like that: iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 ip addr add 192.168.0.200/24 dev usb0 ifconfig usb0 up ssh r...@192.168.0.202 Tony Berth wrote: I changed that to 192.168.0.0 but still the same problem! When I plug FR in, the console displays the following: usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2 usb 1-1: config 2 interface 1 has no altsetting 0 usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 2 choices eth1: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-:00:1d.0-1, CDC Ethernet Device, 00:1f:11:01:53:86 usbcore: registered new driver cdc_ether Thanks -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-neovento-5--applications%21-tp2881940p2884146.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Koolu.com?
Plenty of other ways to get in touch, although I imagine they're aware already. From the whois records: Domain ID:D137784362-LROR Domain Name:KOOLU.ORG Created On:20-Jan-2007 17:00:14 UTC Last Updated On:29-Dec-2008 13:12:03 UTC Expiration Date:20-Jan-2011 17:00:14 UTC Sponsoring Registrar:GoDaddy.com, Inc. (R91-LROR) Status:CLIENT DELETE PROHIBITED Status:CLIENT RENEW PROHIBITED Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED Registrant ID:GODA-027078548 Registrant Name:Jon Hall Registrant Organization:Koolu Registrant Street1:80 Amherst St. Registrant Street2: Registrant Street3: Registrant City:AMHERST Registrant State/Province:New Hampshire Registrant Postal Code:03031 Registrant Country:US Registrant Phone:+1.6036724557 Registrant Phone Ext.: Registrant FAX: Registrant FAX Ext.: Registrant Email:mad...@li.org Cheers, Joseph 2009/5/13 Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be: On Wed, 13 May 2009 03:02:47 -0500 Rene Horn the.rh...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, I already knew that. I'm just wondering if anyone knows what's happened? Did they lose the domain? whois records show Network Solutions as owning the domain. host -t ns koolu.com koolu.com name server ns5.mydyndns.org. koolu.com name server ns1.mydyndns.org. koolu.com name server ns2.mydyndns.org. koolu.com name server ns3.mydyndns.org. koolu.com name server ns4.mydyndns.org. So koolu.com is hosted on dyndns ... and that one gives weird answers: nslookup koolu.com ns3.mydyndns.org. Server: ns3.mydyndns.org. Address: 208.78.69.76#53 *** Can't find koolu.com: No answer nslookup www.koolu.com ns3.mydyndns.org. Server: ns3.mydyndns.org. Address: 208.78.69.76#53 ** server can't find www.koolu.com: NXDOMAIN So, my guess is that it didn't get refreshed enough at dyndns. What a way to promote a company though ... koolu.org is still up, if you want the files. But if koolu.com doesn't exist, sending mail to blahb...@koolu.com won't get you anywhere as well ... Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
You may have been blacklisted from Google's servers - downloading just the tiles is frowned upon in Mountain View and they block IPs that do so. You're _supposed_ to access Google Maps only through the web API. Joseph 2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: Dear List, How can I use Google Map on tangoGPS. I select Google Map repository, but I can't download Google map? Is there any thing that I should change? -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
I suppose you'll have to find a way to keep changing your IP address, or use a different map provider. If you really don't want to use OpenStreetMap data, gvSIG Mobile displays data from Microsoft Live Maps: http://gvsigmobileonopenmoko.wordpress.com/ http://www.opkg.org/package_162.html Cheers, Joseph 2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 14:10 +0100, Joseph Reeves wrote: You may have been blacklisted from Google's servers Yes, when I change the ip, it can download. But it'll be soon blacklisted again. So how can I download google map with tangoGPS? - downloading just the tiles is frowned upon in Mountain View and they block IPs that do so. You're _supposed_ to access Google Maps only through the web API. Joseph 2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: Dear List, How can I use Google Map on tangoGPS. I select Google Map repository, but I can't download Google map? Is there any thing that I should change? -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
I've found that it's very enjoyable to travel somewhere not on OSM and add it later ;-) SHR + TangoGPS seems stable enough, and kind enough on the battery, to let me walk around for a whole day (or rather, walk as much as I'd want to in a day) and log everywhere I go. I guess that doesn't really help you with your current problem, however, but hopefully you'll work something out. Cheers, Joseph 2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 17:04 +0200, Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio wrote: Hi. You can also use the Yahoo imagery ( Yahoo imagery http://www.opengeodata.org/?p=120 It seems ok, but a little bit faint on my area. Thanks. downlading :) both on tango and gvSIG Mobile) as an alternative to Google. For urban areas, the Yahoo imagery is very nice too. What is your area of interest? When I'm city. OpenStreetMap is quite OK, although most of roads are NOT covered. but it's OK. Well, I'm going to travel next week. And I found that there is nothing with OSM data (mountain area). And Google map looks fine :) So I hope I can download some maps before I travel :) Regards, Juan Lucas __ De: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org en nombre de Joseph Reeves Enviado el: jue 07/05/2009 16:38 Para: lida_m...@163.com CC: List for Openmoko community discussion Asunto: Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS I suppose you'll have to find a way to keep changing your IP address, or use a different map provider. If you really don't want to use OpenStreetMap data, gvSIG Mobile displays data from Microsoft Live Maps: http://gvsigmobileonopenmoko.wordpress.com/ http://www.opkg.org/package_162.html Cheers, Joseph 2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 14:10 +0100, Joseph Reeves wrote: You may have been blacklisted from Google's servers Yes, when I change the ip, it can download. But it'll be soon blacklisted again. So how can I download google map with tangoGPS? - downloading just the tiles is frowned upon in Mountain View and they block IPs that do so. You're _supposed_ to access Google Maps only through the web API. Joseph 2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: Dear List, How can I use Google Map on tangoGPS. I select Google Map repository, but I can't download Google map? Is there any thing that I should change? -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
Indeed: http://www.tangogps.org/gps/articles/13-Howto-contribute-to-OpenStreetMap.html Although I logged my tracks in TangoGPS, then converted them to GPX files using Prune: http://sourceforge.net/projects/prune-gps/ Before uploading to OSM. Works like a charm. Cheers, Joseph 2009/5/7 Adam Jimerson vend...@gmail.com: On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com wrote: Well, I'm going to travel next week. And I found that there is nothing with OSM data (mountain area). And Google map looks fine :) So I hope I can download some maps before I travel :) I don't get a chance to play with TangoGPS much but if I remember correctly it supports logging so OSM can be improved, maybe someone with more knowledge in this matter can provide more details. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Download Link OM 2007 ?
Could you use DFU-util to get OM2007.2 off one of your phones? Seems broken at the moment, however: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/676 Joseph 2009/5/6 David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com: I only have found http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/obsolete-images/Om2007.11/images/neo1973/ but seems is only for gta01, can any body confirm this? 2009/5/6 Christoph Pulster openm...@pulster.de: Hi, where can I find OM 2007 distribution to download ? OM 2007 = the system units are shipped from factory. AFAIK this version is not available, if so, why ? Thanks, Chris ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: copy a file from smartphone to pc
You don't say what OS you're running on your PC, but assuming it's something half-modern and Linux based, open a file browser (I use nautilus) and type in the address bar: sftp://r...@[ip address of phone] [ip address of phone] is usually 192.168.0.202 Cheers, Joseph 2009/5/5 Anas Alzouhbi anas@gmail.com: Hello! I want to transfer a file from my smartphone to the pc, for exemple the file name is toto4 and the username of my pc is elzouebi I runned this command scp toto4 elzou...@192.168.0.200 , it created a file called elzou...@192.168.0.200 on the smartphone :( also I runned this command scp totot4 elzou...@192.168.0.200:sender, sender is a folder on my pc I obtained this error messaj WARNING: Ignoring unknown argument '-x' WARNING: Ignoring unknown argument '-oForwardAgent no' WARNING: Ignoring unknown argument '-oPermitLocalCommand no' WARNING: Ignoring unknown argument '-oClearAllForwardings yes' /usr/bin/dbclient: exited: Error connecting: Connection refused lost connection what should I do, to copy a file from the smarphone to the pc ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: PCB and schematic of openmoko
http://downloads.openmoko.org/developer/schematics/GTA02/ ? Cheers, Joseph 2009/4/22 Anas Alzouhbi anas@gmail.com: Hello! I need the schematic and the pcb of my smarthphone openmoko GTA02, this link isn't available: http://downloads.openmoko.org/developer/schematics/GTA02/Schematics_Freerunner/GTA02_A5-7cumulative_public_RC0.pdf I need to know the locations of accelerometers on the board, and the location of the SPI interface ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: bluetooth spam
Advertisers use it a lot. I've also spoken to someone who was using the spamming service for a community heritage project; you walked around and had details of the area you're in sent to your phone. It's just a case of needing a little imagination ;) 2009/4/22 The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com: Spam a file? Send it to everyone in range? Why? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: test QtEI
What OS are you using? These codes work fine for me (OM2009 Vodafone UK SIM). Cheers, Joseph 2009/4/18 Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com: My Phone operator (Wind Italy) have some numbers (ie: *123#,*123*3#) to check various things (credit, sms left and so on). After you make a call, should appear a sort of advice with the data you requested. This advice appears afetr I make a call (in this case, Wind update me about my credit), but does not appear if I call the specific numbers. How can I debug it to make a better report? -- Fabio A Locati Home: Segrate, Milan, Italy (GMT +1) Phone: +39-328-3799681 MSN/Jabber/E-Mail: fabioloc...@gmail.com PGP Key: 9EF6 3C79 F6DF 76CD 770A 43A1 DCCB 415C 9656 3334 Envolved in: KDE, OpenStreetMap, Ubuntu, Wikimedia ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OpenBSD
Excuse me if I missed some previous announcement, but I've just read that OpenBSD 4.5, available May 1st, will support ARM based Openmoko: http://www.openbsd.org/45.html Looks interesting... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [om2009] - opkg update opkg upgrade fork failed
I've not seen that one. Have a search and report if it's new ;) https://docs.openmoko.org/trac Cheers, Joseph 2009/4/17 blokkie blok...@h0m3.be: Joseph Reeves schreef: Known bug: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2271 pkill paroli pkill frameworkd opkg update opkg upgrade fixes it. Joseph Great ! thx , When I first booted it had another error about not beeing able to start namend or something . Is that also a known bug ? Cheerio's , Blokkie ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [om2009] - opkg update opkg upgrade fork failed
Known bug: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2271 pkill paroli pkill frameworkd opkg update opkg upgrade fixes it. Joseph 2009/4/17 blokkie blok...@h0m3.be: Greetings earthlings Some errors I collected from upgrading the om2009 testing image , maybe it's usefull for later images ? Error : Upgrading paroli on root from 0.2.1+gitr91+ba44a8738f444f6ca3ff42a4173d9178e4202b04-r9 to 0.2.1+gitr94+8800d8d645b21499259e6a2d0fb4a45562a8f9bd-r11... Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/armv4t/paroli_0.2.1+gitr94+8800d8d645b21499259e6a2d0fb4a45562a8f9bd-r11_armv4t.ipk opkg: fork failed Segmentation fault Fixed by doing : r...@om-gta02:~# opkg upgrade paroli Upgrading paroli on root from 0.2.1+gitr91+ba44a8738f444f6ca3ff42a4173d9178e4202b04-r9 to 0.2.1+gitr94+8800d8d645b21499259e6a2d0fb4a45562a8f9bd-r11... Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/armv4t/paroli_0.2.1+gitr94+8800d8d645b21499259e6a2d0fb4a45562a8f9bd-r11_armv4t.ipk Configuration file '/etc/freesmartphone/oevents/paroli_rules.yaml' == File on system created by you or by a script. == File also in package provided by package maintainer. What would you like to do about it ? Your options are: Y or I : install the package maintainer's version N or O : keep your currently-installed version D : show the differences between the versions (if diff is installed) The default action is to keep your current version. *** paroli_rules.yaml (Y/I/N/O/D) [default=N] ?D Looks like it cannot trap the questions . Other errors when upgrading : Collected errors: * Package libelementary-themes wants to install file /usr/share/elementary/themes/default.edj But that file is already provided by package * paroli * Package paroli-theme wants to install file /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/illume.edj But that file is already provided by package * e-wm-theme-illume * Package paroli-theme wants to install file /usr/share/enlightenment/data/config/illume/module.illume.cfg But that file is already provided by package * e-wm-config-illume * Package paroli-theme wants to install file /usr/share/enlightenment/data/config/illume/e.cfg But that file is already provided by package * e-wm-config-illume r...@om-gta02:~# ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: sunlight readable LCD
My thoughts exactly Yorick. I'd be very interested in this (I guess I should be! ;-) at the sort of prices Marcus was talking about. What's the technical investment required for this? I guess I should go google psp screen linux... Cheers, Joseph 2009/4/15 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com: I'm not actually interested, but while you are modding: you could maybe also try to get a bigger battery in there? or two batteries in parallel? might be usefull for longer trips... y On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Marcus Bauer marcus.ba...@gmail.com wrote: Hello list, Joseph Reeves wrote on his blog about a bicycle app for the Neo [1]. I have always wanted to add cycling / sports functions to tangoGPS but as the LCD is mostly unreadable in sunlight I felt there is little use. After trying it a couple of times on my bike I soon started to leave the Neo at home. So I wonder about three things for better outdoor use: 1) How many of you would be interested in the following hardware mods: * sunlight readable LCD * bigger LCD 3,5+ * new ruggedized case or rubber shell (including a mean to nicely fix in on a bike?) * waterproof (substaintially more costs) 2) How much money would you spend on it? To give you an idea: the PSP display with touchscreen can be bought on ebay for ~25$. A case may be ~20-30$ for volumes of 100+. 3) Last question: are there hardware people interested in this? Please reply here on list with your interest! Marcus [1]http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/racing_myself_a_feature_request ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [om2009]
r...@om-gta02:~# export DISPLAY=:0.0 tangogps works, although it's not too useful if you go outside without your laptop plugged into the phone ;) Joseph 2009/4/15 Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz: thanks for reporting your enthusiasm :D Is there in 2009.1 the possibility to switch from Paroli to another application (like TangoGPS) using Illume menu? this is at this point not possible. petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [om2009] - send SMS GUI logic
My Nokia N96 wants me to select the recipients before I write the message, and that's a phone that people seem to like... After all, I think to myself I'll send something to François, rather than I want to say something, but who shall I send it to? ;-) 2009/4/15 François TOURDE fr...@tourde.org: Le 14349ième jour après Epoch, blok...@h0m3.be écrivait: first tipe what you want to send , then to who seems more logical . I agree with this, even if I don't understand why. I can't find any good reason to use this order :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
gvSIG Mobile 0.1.2
Dear all, I've just packaged up gvSIG Mobile for Openmoko 0.1.2: http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/gvsig_mobile_0_1_2 http://www.opkg.org/package_162.html It contains various updates and improvements, even a choice of GUI language. The full (?) list of changes is on my blog. Massive thanks as ever to Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio for all his hard work making this great app and to the brave translators who have enabled us to provide it in their language of choice. Cheers, Joseph ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Slashdotted
Werner and I are discussing various possibilities. I rule nothing out. Steve, at the OpenExpo Sean refered to the Dash navigator as a dashtraction from the serious business of Openmoko. How will Plan B (which is presumably not a distraction but a means of improving ROI for FIC) avoid becoming thought of as Dash2? Thanks for your emails on the subject so far, Joseph 2009/4/7 Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com: Gerald A wrote: Hi all, I originally wrote Lothar in private, and asked for his permission to repost to the list. There have been a few replies in the meantime, but there were some good points here. Now, I'm not a hardware guy, so take my input with a grain of salt, but I have been watching the project for a while, and as a software person I hope we can make it work. Lothar -- new comments are inline. On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Lothar Behrens lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de wrote: On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Lothar Behrens lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de wrote: Ok I cannot buy expensive equipment to test hardware that I may have developed, but I virtually could develop hardware. But many developers at one subject could spend money for a rent to let one of the team do outstanding tests. Isn't it possible to also develop hardware collaboratively? I have to say -- at this point, I don't think so. It's not that the concept is impossible, or as you mention above, that testing can't be done. But based on what OM and FIC before them have reported, it would be very hard. Yes, it would be hard, but FIC and OM have made a great job. We have a fully functioning phone, but we couldn't easy create our own prototypes to play with. Good ideas are published as the robotics project. If having a really open schematics and even the board design. one could change the formfactor and add his/her needed stuff to play with. If you have to worry about how to enter a completely new schematics from the PDF, the fence is higher to think about jumping over and just DO it. Steve has commented a bit about this, as far as a packaging and final production are concerned. There might be a possibility to build modular kits so different hardware (and software) combos could be tried out, but translating that into a widget that can be sold as a phone is also a consideration. We could put together an awesome phone as a kit that is about the size of a CD drive, but then find out that some parts we used aren't available in quantities or timelines that make sense to produce a phone. The concept is awesome, but I'm not sure it can feed into a real product -- but it's something to think about. Werner and I are discussing various possibilities. I rule nothing out. Principally, this is due to a moving target. Since everything is obsolete in a few months, the shelf life of products in the embedded space is very small. The next big hurdle is in getting specs. OM/FIC were producing thousands of devices and possibly more, so had better quantities then a hobby group might muster -- and still had poor access to hardware specs, when they got them. Now, of course, some of their decisions might have been practical too (we can get 1000 more closed pieces from company X, while we can only get ~100 more open pieces from company Y), we don't know. Yes, the technique is moving forward fast - for the real phone, not for a GSM module for sample :-) Today I have searched for a GSM module and indeed found one with a complete ARM based Linux stack. It would be much too expensive, but when having only the next planned GSM module that will appear in the phone, one could test it on a standard pc. Or even participate in GSM related development only. I love the idea of being able to mock up hardware, as it lets the software move forward too. But if our test platform can't be translated into a suitable form factor, it might be a waste. YUP. Just to review the GTA03. At one stage the WIFI and GPS had to be removed because it didnt fit in the case. If thin is in, then using a module is out, for the most part. How thin is thin? Typical marketing answer would be thinner than the iPhone but obviously some fat phones ship I had an idea about my car radio. The idea came because I use my Neo to transmit music over bluetooth, then over a FM transmitter to the radio. This is bad quality. There are really much entusiasts building their own carPC in double DIN factor or similar - even small PC barebones. Why not equip it with a GSM module to become a real handsfree carPC + phone. They will benefit from such a module and propably participate in development. On of our early partners, in fact, was designing such a carPC and wanted to use FR as a dev platform. Alas they demanded a different processor ( Intel) so that deal didnt go through. Open the development by also selling parts of a phone for the hobby electronics would increase the audience and the feedback. I don't know how
Re: packaging the application
What's the output from: om-make-ipkg openmoko-sample2 ? 2009/4/3 Anas Alzouhbi anas@gmail.com: I arrived in the toolchain ducument until :Packaging your application I run this command om-make-ipkg openmoko-sample2 it showed: usage: om-make-ipkg [app_dir_name] [ipkg_control_file] but the problem is when I run this command scp openmoko-sample2_0.1_armv4t.ipk r...@192.168.0.202: it shows this error: openmoko-sample2_0.1_armv4t.ipk: No such file or directory what I have to do?? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: packaging the application
Ok, so I think I see what you're saying. You get: y...@your-machine:~$om-make-ipkg openmoko-sample2 usage: om-make-ipkg [app_dir_name] [ipkg_control_file] So om-make-ipkg is complaining that you haven't given it the correct parameters. It's telling you what it expects. What directory are you running it from? Does that directory contain openmoko-sample2/ ? Posting the entire terminal, not just the output of some commands, would make this much easier to read. Cheers, Joseph 2009/4/3 Anas Alzouhbi anas@gmail.com: thank you so what do you think about the problem that I have, what could the reason that the output ofom-make-ipkg openmoko-sample2 is usage: om-make-ipkg [app_dir_name] [ipkg_control_file] On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com wrote: Last time I did it I got: jos...@joseph-work:~/mtr-0.73$ cd ~ jos...@joseph-work:~$ om-make-ipkg mtr-0.73 make: Entering directory `/home/joseph/mtr-0.73' Making install in img make[1]: Entering directory `/home/joseph/mtr-0.73/img' make[2]: Entering directory `/home/joseph/mtr-0.73/img' make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'. make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'. make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/joseph/mtr-0.73/img' make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/joseph/mtr-0.73/img' make[1]: Entering directory `/home/joseph/mtr-0.73' make[2]: Entering directory `/home/joseph/mtr-0.73' test -z /usr/sbin || /bin/mkdir -p /tmp/mtr-0.73-ipkg-tmp/usr/sbin /usr/bin/install -c 'mtr' '/tmp/mtr-0.73-ipkg-tmp/usr/sbin/mtr' make install-exec-hook make[3]: Entering directory `/home/joseph/mtr-0.73' chmod u+s /tmp/mtr-0.73-ipkg-tmp/usr/sbin/mtr make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/joseph/mtr-0.73' test -z /usr/share/man/man8 || /bin/mkdir -p /tmp/mtr-0.73-ipkg-tmp/usr/share/man/man8 /usr/bin/install -c -m 644 './mtr.8' '/tmp/mtr-0.73-ipkg-tmp/usr/share/man/man8/mtr.8' make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/joseph/mtr-0.73' make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/joseph/mtr-0.73' make: Leaving directory `/home/joseph/mtr-0.73' Packaged contents of /tmp/mtr-0.73-ipkg-tmp into /home/joseph/mtr-0.73_0.1_armv4t.ipk jos...@joseph-work:~$ http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/3 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
$299 ESC San Jose limited time Special! ?
Dear all, I've not seen any mention of this on the lists, but it all looks very cheap! http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/neo-freerunner # GSM 850 ( Promotion, Extras: pouch and headset x 1) $299.00 USD # GSM 900-10 Pack $2,690.00 USD # GSM 850-10 Pack $2,690.00 USD Not an April Fools thing is it? Cheers, Joseph ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: $299 ESC San Jose limited time Special! ?
That would make sense... After a bit of googling for belgium openmoko (a perfectly normal search term, honest...) I found this reseller that I'd never seen before: https://kd85.com/openmoko.html Seems to have taken delivery of 180/200: http://openmoko.kd85.com/images/ and is selling them on at a very good price, has been doing so since November last year. Openmoko stock clearance? Cheers, Joseph 2009/4/1 Cédric Berger cedric.berge...@gmail.com: On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 16:00, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, I've not seen any mention of this on the lists, but it all looks very cheap! http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/neo-freerunner # GSM 850 ( Promotion, Extras: pouch and headset x 1) $299.00 USD # GSM 900-10 Pack $2,690.00 USD # GSM 850-10 Pack $2,690.00 USD Not an April Fools thing is it? This must be in-stock phones, and as next ones (GTA2 A7) should have some buzz fix already done at factory, these old ones will loose value I would say... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko
hi Bill, Thanks for the feedback; 0.2 will include, amongst other exciting new features, libswt3.4-gtk-jni as an explicit dependency. Cheers, Joseph 2009/3/17 William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au: I have the same on shr-testing - wasnt installed by default with the other packages so should be a dependency somewhere. BillK On Tue, 2009-03-17 at 13:44 +, Joseph Reeves wrote: Hi Yorick, Glad you got it to work! libswt3.4-gtk-jni is a dependency of libswt3.4-gtk-java, so that would get understandably upset without it. We don't specify that you must have ibswt3.4-gtk-jni as it is (usually) installed when you install the specified libswt3.4-gtk-java. I can explicitly add it to the dependency list of the next version to make sure we don't have this problem again. Cheers, Joseph 2009/3/17 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com: it seems my phone is java enabled...i get: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ jamvm -cp go.jar org.test.go Hello class: java.lang.Class I installed the new version of gvsig and now i get: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ DISPLAY=:0 gvsig Log file: /usr/share/gv-om/log/1237295403472.gvsig-mobile.log.txt java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no swt-gtk-3428 or swt-gtk in swt.library.path, java.library.path or the jar file at org.eclipse.swt.internal.Library.loadLibrary(Library.java:233) at org.eclipse.swt.internal.Library.loadLibrary(Library.java:151) at org.eclipse.swt.internal.C.clinit(C.java:21) at org.eclipse.swt.internal.Converter.wcsToMbcs(Converter.java:63) at org.eclipse.swt.internal.Converter.wcsToMbcs(Converter.java:54) at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.clinit(Display.java:128) at es.prodevelop.gvsig.mobile.app.GvsigMobileApp.execute(GvsigMobileApp.java:100) at es.prodevelop.gvsig.mobile.app.Launcher.main(Launcher.java:129) so i installed libswt3.4-gtk-jni and now it works it didn't work without that file y On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio jldoming...@prodevelop.es wrote: Hello Yorick. I understand then that your phone is not Java-enabled right now? Can you copy the attached 'go.jar' to your phone and type from the same folder: jamvm -cp ./go.jar org.test.go This what I get: r...@om-gta02:~# jamvm -cp ./go.jar org.test.go Hello class: java.lang.Class r...@om-gta02:~# What do you get? Regards, Juan Lucas Domínguez Rubio --- Prodevelop SL, Valencia (España) 0° 22' 49.62 W, 39° 28' 25.45 N Tlf.: 96.351.06.12 -- Fax: 96.351.09.68 http://www.prodevelop.es --- -Original Message- From: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org on behalf of Yorick Moko Sent: Mon 16/03/2009 18:26 To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko thanks for your help, but i get: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg install cacao -force-depends Installing cacao (0.99.3-r5.1) to root... Downloading http://jalimo.evolvis.org/repository/openmoko/armv4t/cacao_0.99.3-r5.1_armv4t.ipk Installing classpath (0.97.2-r8.1) to root... Downloading http://jalimo.evolvis.org/repository/openmoko/armv4t/classpath_0.97.2-r8.1_armv4t.ipk Installing classpath-common (0.97.2-r8.1) to root... Downloading http://jalimo.evolvis.org/repository/openmoko/armv4t/classpath-common_0.97.2-r8.1_armv4t.ipk Configuring cacao update-alternatives: Linking //usr/bin/java to /usr/bin/cacao Configuring classpath Configuring classpath-common Collected errors: * Warning: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for cacao: * libgcc-s1 (= 4.1.2) * libgcc-s1 (= 4.1.2) * r...@om-gta02 ~ $ cacao -Xmx40M -cp /usr/share/java/swt.jar:/usr/share/gv-om/class/all.jar es/prodevelop/gvsig/mobile/app/Launcher fr /usr/share/gv-om /media/car Absurd stack bottom value Aborted btw: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg list_installed |grep libgcc libgcc1 - 4.1.2-r19 - On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio jldoming...@prodevelop.es wrote: Hello, Yorick, You can also try cacao: opkg install cacao then: cacao -Xmx40M -cp /usr/share/java/swt.jar:/usr/share/gv-om/class/all.jar es/prodevelop/gvsig/mobile/app/Launcher fr /usr/share/gv-om /media/card Regsrd, Juan Lucas De: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org en nombre de Yorick Moko Enviado el: lun 16/03/2009 17:45 Para: List for Openmoko community discussion Asunto: Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko still nobody getting (on shr-testing) the following error? r...@om-gta02 /etc/init.d $ DISPLAY=:0 gvsig Stopping freesmartphone.org gpsd compatibility daemon: stopped process in pidfile '/var/run/fso-gpsd.pid' (pid 1442) (done) Starting freesmartphone.org gpsd compatibility daemon: (ok) Exception occurred while VM initialising. java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Class using the terminal command I found in these e-mails i also get the same error: r...@om-gta02
Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko
Updated with a new version (0.11) that fixes these SHR launching issues. Thanks for the feedback. There was no change to any of the proper code - so if you could get it to run yesterday the new version won't change anything for you: http://downloads.thehumanjourney.net/gvsigmobile_0.11_armv4t.ipk More info, and a call for help from Debian users on my blog: http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/gvsig_mobile_0_11_released (the opkg repo has been updated, so users of that can simply opkg update opkg upgrade) Cheers, Joseph 2009/3/16 Francesco de Virgilio fradev...@gmail.com: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yorick Moko ha scritto: error on shr-testing: r...@om-gta02 ~/.mokometeo $ opkg install jamvm libswt3.4-gtk-java classpath-gtk classpath-awt gpsd http://downloads.thehumanjourney.net/gvsigmobile_0.1_armv4t.ipk Downloading http://downloads.thehumanjourney.net/gvsigmobile_0.1_armv4t.ipk Multiple replacers for gpsd, using first one (fso-gpsd) Package fso-gpsd is already installed in root. Installing gvsigmobile (0.1) to root... Multiple replacers for gpsd, using first one (fso-gpsd) Collected errors: * Cannot find package jamvm. * Cannot find package libswt3.4-gtk-java. * Cannot find package classpath-gtk. * Cannot find package classpath-awt. * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for gvsigmobile: * jamvm * libswt3.4-gtk-java * classpath-gtk * classpath-awt * On SHR-testing it works for me: opkg --force-depends install http://downloads.thehumanjourney.net/gvsigmobile_0.1_armv4t.ipk After the installation, there's no icon on Illume desktop. If I try gvsig from terminal, it answers me not found. I've started it with the followin command (on one line): jamvm -Xmx40M -cp /usr/share/java/swt.jar:/usr/share/gv-om/class/all.jar es/prodevelop/gvsig/mobile/app/Launcher fr /usr/share/gv-om /media/card I've found it in /usr/bin/gvsig. I want to give my public appreciation and thanks to GvSig mobile developer(s) and to Oxford Archaeologic for bringing us such beautiful app. I'm testing it on my shapefiles of Italian archaeologic sites (near Bari, to be precise). Thanks again :D - -- Francesco de Virgilio *Ubuntu-it Member and Wiki Editor* mailto:frad...@ubuntu-it.org http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/FrancescoDeVirgilio *Wikimedia Italia Member* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fradeve11 *OpenStreetMap Mapper* http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Fradeve11 *Blog* http://fradeve.netsons.org Love - Peace - Freedom - Free Software GPG 0x6482E056 (FP B996 A12C BD52 2A9B CDD3 812D 462D 93B0 6482 E056) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkm+acAACgkQRi2TsGSC4FaE/ACeIBPc8VAmyL1sa/4/mvBgZ/9U j5wAn2bH/FmiHohnwXpzJ8Fqe560QZLT =ttPT -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko
De: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org en nombre de kimaidou Enviado el: lun 16/03/2009 17:32 Para: List for Openmoko community discussion Asunto: Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko Normallu on last SHR testing, the gpsd is automatically started for every application using it. It is so with tangogps for example. 2009/3/16 Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com Great news :) SHR users just have to remember to start gpsd if you want to see where you are - that's what /usr/bin/gvsig does on OM2008.x distributions, but that doesn't seem to be working for you SHR people :( Cheers, Joseph 2009/3/16 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com: Hi all Thanks to the command line (one line) Francesco da Virgilo gaves in his email : r...@om-gta02 ~ $ jamvm -Xmx40M -cp /usr/share/java/swt.jar:/usr/share/gv-om/class/all.jar es/prodevelop/gvsig/mobile/app/Launcher fr /usr/share/gv-om /media/card I am able to run it on SHR too. This is a great step for mobile GIS solutions ! Thanks to the developpers ! Kimaidou ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko
We seem to have some issues with SHR, but it should install at least (I've been told that it does, although haven't tried myself). Have you added the Jalimo repos to your phone? https://wiki.evolvis.org/jalimo/index.php/Packages#OpenMoko If you did, I'm sure you also ran opkg update, but it's best just to check. Cheers, Joseph 2009/3/16 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com: error on shr-testing: r...@om-gta02 ~/.mokometeo $ opkg install jamvm libswt3.4-gtk-java classpath-gtk classpath-awt gpsd http://downloads.thehumanjourney.net/gvsigmobile_0.1_armv4t.ipk Downloading http://downloads.thehumanjourney.net/gvsigmobile_0.1_armv4t.ipk Multiple replacers for gpsd, using first one (fso-gpsd) Package fso-gpsd is already installed in root. Installing gvsigmobile (0.1) to root... Multiple replacers for gpsd, using first one (fso-gpsd) Collected errors: * Cannot find package jamvm. * Cannot find package libswt3.4-gtk-java. * Cannot find package classpath-gtk. * Cannot find package classpath-awt. * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for gvsigmobile: * jamvm * libswt3.4-gtk-java * classpath-gtk * classpath-awt * On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio jldoming...@prodevelop.es wrote: Dear list, there is now an unofficial version of gvSIG Mobile for Openmoko: http://www.opkg.org/package_162.html http://planet.osgeo.org/ Regards, Juan Lucas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko
On SHR-testing it works for me: Great to hear :) After the installation, there's no icon on Illume desktop. If I try gvsig from terminal, it answers me not found. The icon should appear, but seemingly doesn't :( restart your xserver and you will see the lovely gvSIG icon. Rebooting the phone does the same. After the installation, there's no icon on Illume desktop. If I try gvsig from terminal, it answers me not found. I don't know why it's not found if the file gvsig exists in /usr/bin - it works fine in OM2008.X - does SHR do something differently? Thanks for the feedback, Joseph 2009/3/16 Francesco de Virgilio fradev...@gmail.com: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yorick Moko ha scritto: error on shr-testing: r...@om-gta02 ~/.mokometeo $ opkg install jamvm libswt3.4-gtk-java classpath-gtk classpath-awt gpsd http://downloads.thehumanjourney.net/gvsigmobile_0.1_armv4t.ipk Downloading http://downloads.thehumanjourney.net/gvsigmobile_0.1_armv4t.ipk Multiple replacers for gpsd, using first one (fso-gpsd) Package fso-gpsd is already installed in root. Installing gvsigmobile (0.1) to root... Multiple replacers for gpsd, using first one (fso-gpsd) Collected errors: * Cannot find package jamvm. * Cannot find package libswt3.4-gtk-java. * Cannot find package classpath-gtk. * Cannot find package classpath-awt. * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for gvsigmobile: * jamvm * libswt3.4-gtk-java * classpath-gtk * classpath-awt * On SHR-testing it works for me: opkg --force-depends install http://downloads.thehumanjourney.net/gvsigmobile_0.1_armv4t.ipk After the installation, there's no icon on Illume desktop. If I try gvsig from terminal, it answers me not found. I've started it with the followin command (on one line): jamvm -Xmx40M -cp /usr/share/java/swt.jar:/usr/share/gv-om/class/all.jar es/prodevelop/gvsig/mobile/app/Launcher fr /usr/share/gv-om /media/card I've found it in /usr/bin/gvsig. I want to give my public appreciation and thanks to GvSig mobile developer(s) and to Oxford Archaeologic for bringing us such beautiful app. I'm testing it on my shapefiles of Italian archaeologic sites (near Bari, to be precise). Thanks again :D - -- Francesco de Virgilio *Ubuntu-it Member and Wiki Editor* mailto:frad...@ubuntu-it.org http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/FrancescoDeVirgilio *Wikimedia Italia Member* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fradeve11 *OpenStreetMap Mapper* http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Fradeve11 *Blog* http://fradeve.netsons.org Love - Peace - Freedom - Free Software GPG 0x6482E056 (FP B996 A12C BD52 2A9B CDD3 812D 462D 93B0 6482 E056) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkm+acAACgkQRi2TsGSC4FaE/ACeIBPc8VAmyL1sa/4/mvBgZ/9U j5wAn2bH/FmiHohnwXpzJ8Fqe560QZLT =ttPT -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko
Juan Lucas could answer this better than I can, but Jamvm was chosen as our current favourite java implementation. Of course, you can always install any java you'd like and change /usr/bin/gvsig to run java -Xmx40M -cp /u... rather than jamvm -Xmx40M -cp /u... It works with cacao, for example, just fine; it is noticeably slower, however, and is far from perfect. I don't know if this would help the SHR folks - testers would be appreciated :) Cheers, Joseph 2009/3/16 Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk: All (except possibly jamvm?) are in fso-testing, or were on Friday. I don't know why it depends on jamvm rather than a list of alternative java providers. On Monday 16 March 2009, Yorick Moko wrote: error on shr-testing: r...@om-gta02 ~/.mokometeo $ opkg install jamvm libswt3.4-gtk-java classpath-gtk classpath-awt gpsd http://downloads.thehumanjourney.net/gvsigmobile_0.1_armv4t.ipk Downloading http://downloads.thehumanjourney.net/gvsigmobile_0.1_armv4t.ipk Multiple replacers for gpsd, using first one (fso-gpsd) Package fso-gpsd is already installed in root. Installing gvsigmobile (0.1) to root... Multiple replacers for gpsd, using first one (fso-gpsd) Collected errors: * Cannot find package jamvm. * Cannot find package libswt3.4-gtk-java. * Cannot find package classpath-gtk. * Cannot find package classpath-awt. * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for gvsigmobile: * jamvm * libswt3.4-gtk-java * classpath-gtk * classpath-awt * On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio jldoming...@prodevelop.es wrote: Dear list, there is now an unofficial version of gvSIG Mobile for Openmoko: http://www.opkg.org/package_162.html http://planet.osgeo.org/ Regards, Juan Lucas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR] Launching applications
As per the recent gvSIG Mobile thread: http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2486265|a2486543 Why does SHR fail to find the application gvsig when the file exists as: /usr/bin/gvsig ? The application can be run with: jamvm -Xmx40M -cp /usr/share/java/swt.jar:/usr/share/gv-om/class/all.jar es/prodevelop/gvsig/mobile/app/Launcher fr /usr/share/gv-om /media/card but this doesn't work if executed from the script /usr/bin/gvsig - why is this? What do I need to do to allow execution by pressing the icon in SHR? Thanks, Joseph ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko
Great news :) SHR users just have to remember to start gpsd if you want to see where you are - that's what /usr/bin/gvsig does on OM2008.x distributions, but that doesn't seem to be working for you SHR people :( Cheers, Joseph 2009/3/16 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com: Hi all Thanks to the command line (one line) Francesco da Virgilo gaves in his email : r...@om-gta02 ~ $ jamvm -Xmx40M -cp /usr/share/java/swt.jar:/usr/share/gv-om/class/all.jar es/prodevelop/gvsig/mobile/app/Launcher fr /usr/share/gv-om /media/card I am able to run it on SHR too. This is a great step for mobile GIS solutions ! Thanks to the developpers ! Kimaidou ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko
Ok, that's cool. Does this help SHR users? Does editing /usr/share/applications/gvsig.desktop to execute the command as found by Francesco instead of simply gvsig work? Cheers, Joseph 2009/3/16 Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio jldoming...@prodevelop.es: Yes, sorry, I read about that only yesterday. I think the first line in the gvsig.sh (restarting the Gpsd) is probably unnecessary in all cases. Regards, Juan Lucas De: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org en nombre de kimaidou Enviado el: lun 16/03/2009 17:32 Para: List for Openmoko community discussion Asunto: Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko Normallu on last SHR testing, the gpsd is automatically started for every application using it. It is so with tangogps for example. 2009/3/16 Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com Great news :) SHR users just have to remember to start gpsd if you want to see where you are - that's what /usr/bin/gvsig does on OM2008.x distributions, but that doesn't seem to be working for you SHR people :( Cheers, Joseph 2009/3/16 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com: Hi all Thanks to the command line (one line) Francesco da Virgilo gaves in his email : r...@om-gta02 ~ $ jamvm -Xmx40M -cp /usr/share/java/swt.jar:/usr/share/gv-om/class/all.jar es/prodevelop/gvsig/mobile/app/Launcher fr /usr/share/gv-om /media/card I am able to run it on SHR too. This is a great step for mobile GIS solutions ! Thanks to the developpers ! Kimaidou ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko
Juan Lucas mentioned to me off-list that your jamvm install might be broken for some reason. Can you opkg install cacao and edit the command to run java rather than jamvm That should work fine. If it does, perhaps try reinstalling jamvm? It'll work with Cacao, but it seems to be better with Jam. Thanks, Joseph 2009/3/16 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com: still nobody getting (on shr-testing) the following error? r...@om-gta02 /etc/init.d $ DISPLAY=:0 gvsig Stopping freesmartphone.org gpsd compatibility daemon: stopped process in pidfile '/var/run/fso-gpsd.pid' (pid 1442) (done) Starting freesmartphone.org gpsd compatibility daemon: (ok) Exception occurred while VM initialising. java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Class using the terminal command I found in these e-mails i also get the same error: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ jamvm -Xmx40M -cp /usr/share/java/swt.jar:/usr/share/gv-om/class/all.jar es/prodevelop/gvsig/mobile/app/Launcher fr /usr/share/gv-om /media/card Exception occurred while VM initialising. java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Class y On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio jldoming...@prodevelop.es wrote: Yes, sorry, I read about that only yesterday. I think the first line in the gvsig.sh (restarting the Gpsd) is probably unnecessary in all cases. Regards, Juan Lucas De: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org en nombre de kimaidou Enviado el: lun 16/03/2009 17:32 Para: List for Openmoko community discussion Asunto: Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko Normallu on last SHR testing, the gpsd is automatically started for every application using it. It is so with tangogps for example. 2009/3/16 Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com Great news :) SHR users just have to remember to start gpsd if you want to see where you are - that's what /usr/bin/gvsig does on OM2008.x distributions, but that doesn't seem to be working for you SHR people :( Cheers, Joseph 2009/3/16 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com: Hi all Thanks to the command line (one line) Francesco da Virgilo gaves in his email : r...@om-gta02 ~ $ jamvm -Xmx40M -cp /usr/share/java/swt.jar:/usr/share/gv-om/class/all.jar es/prodevelop/gvsig/mobile/app/Launcher fr /usr/share/gv-om /media/card I am able to run it on SHR too. This is a great step for mobile GIS solutions ! Thanks to the developpers ! Kimaidou ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Launching applications
Thanks all for the info and the testing. I'll update the file tomorrow - users with the opkg.org repo will be able to simply opkg update opkg upgrade cheers, joseph On 16/03/2009, Francesco de Virgilio fradev...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Al Johnson ha scritto: The problem isn't that command, but the shell you're specifying at the start of the script. Change from #!/bin/bash to #!/bin/sh and it works just fine. Tested, now it works. Joseph Reeves, could you insert this fix in an upgrade for the gvsig ipk (in repository)? - -- Francesco de Virgilio *Ubuntu-it Member and Wiki Editor* mailto:frad...@ubuntu-it.org http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/FrancescoDeVirgilio *Wikimedia Italia Member* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fradeve11 *OpenStreetMap Mapper* http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Fradeve11 *Blog* http://fradeve.netsons.org Love - Peace - Freedom - Free Software GPG 0x6482E056 (FP B996 A12C BD52 2A9B CDD3 812D 462D 93B0 6482 E056) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkm+xloACgkQRi2TsGSC4FblhgCdFrR6FoHmH3+k+t6IESdcECza UlwAnA592KFlIyYCF1bsX6NiMjGwRVBH =fDpD -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Google web pages optimizer
Thanks, have added the site to my office blacklists - was letting me access all sorts of blocked content through the innocuous looking google.com ;-) 2009/3/6 Leonti Bielski prishe...@gmail.com: Hi! http://www.google.com/gwt/n - here you can optimize webb pages for pda use - very useful for expensive gprs connection. Did not know about this before today, so just had to share in case someone else finds it useful. Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list
Seems the cradle is the only missing component here Except the patent states that it doesn't have to include a cradle and, in fact, that a cable may be considered a feature. Well done Microsoft, you're trying to patent USB host mode on a phone... Joseph 2009/2/3 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no: Gothnet wrote: Peter Nijs wrote: I'm almost sure someone suggested hooking up an external screen to it. That's technically not possible Isn't it? You can get external USB gfx cards these days. Whether FR has the power to drive one, or if there are FOSS drivers, I have no idea. No problem. The dock may contain a powered usb hub - so no power problem. An external screen can be a serial terminal, and usb-to-serial converters certainly exists. Linux always had drivers for serial terminals, these days also the usb-to-serial converters. For something more modern, use X over the network. (usb network or wifi) The usb cable to the pc seems to do everything: It connects the phone to: * the pc keyboard (use ssh software) * the pc screen (ssh tunneling X) * the pc mouse (ssh tunneling X) * network connection, whatever network(s) the pc is accessing * I have no camera, but it can be done using SANE. Seems the cradle is the only missing component here, but phone cradles aren't exactly new either. I guess it is possible to overturn that patent, if anyone has a hobby of suing microsoft... Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Kustomizer for 2008.12
Thanks Risto. I really must update that USB logo to something that doesn't get stretched! Joseph 2009/2/2 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi: Hi! I wrote a script to install all kinds of cool stuff to a clean 2008.12 installation on Freerunner. For more information: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Kustomizer http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/kustomizer-for-openmoko-200812 The script itself is at http://kurppa.fi/freerunner/kustomizer Feel free to try play improve it! r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: results of a survey maemo vs openmoko
They wanted to only let active members take part in the survey if I remember correctly. By sending the mail to the mailinglist they can't prevent non- active users not to participate. If this was the case I'd rather they sent the questionnaire to the entire mailing list and added the are you an active mailing list user? question. And look, I top quoted too ;) Joseph 2009/1/16 Peter Nijs pe...@familienijs.be: They wanted to only let active members take part in the survey if I remember correctly. By sending the mail to the mailinglist they can't prevent non- active users not to participate. depeje On Thursday 15 January 2009 18:47:46 Joseph Reeves wrote: Did anyone else ignore the original survey as unsolicited spam? I'd have probably completed it if they'd sent a mail to the mailing list asking people to take part, but sending it to individual users seemed to be bad netiquette. Joseph 2009/1/15 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com: http://public.smi.ethz.ch/files/MaemoOpenmoko/PublicDescriptiveStatistics .html it's also on the planet: http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/maemo-openmoko-community-survey-results-publi shed/ thought people would find it interesting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: results of a survey maemo vs openmoko
Did anyone else ignore the original survey as unsolicited spam? I'd have probably completed it if they'd sent a mail to the mailing list asking people to take part, but sending it to individual users seemed to be bad netiquette. Joseph 2009/1/15 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com: http://public.smi.ethz.ch/files/MaemoOpenmoko/PublicDescriptiveStatistics.html it's also on the planet: http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/maemo-openmoko-community-survey-results-published/ thought people would find it interesting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Database applications practical on mobile device ?
Hi Lother, I'm part of a small team currently working on database applications for the FreeRunner. We would be extremely interested in your work. The most attractive solution we've seen so far is GNU Enterprise Tools, although I have had little luck making this work on the phone. We would prefer to use a GUI generated with wxPython, but my brief attempts to get it running on Openmoko failed. I decided to try a GTK interface, but was unable to satisfy GNUE's requirement of Egenix DateTime. We plan to run Sqlite on the phone with data entered via whatever interface we can make work best. We will be synchronising this on phone database with a postgesql database in our data centre using a version of SqlSync we're currently working on. We would be very interested in evaluating / contributing to your application. Best regards, Joseph 2009/1/5 lollisoft lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de: Hi, I like to ask if anyone is wishing to have some database applications on their phone. Or would it practical on such a small device ? I am a developer of an rapid database prototyper capable of generating any source code when prototyping is finished. Thus it will save a lot time when having templates. It's based on wxWidgets and I have seen these libraries on my FR some time ago. Thanks Lothar -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Database-applications-practical-on-mobile-device---tp2112633p2112633.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: mxDateTime on Openmoko?
Thanks Timo, I'm wanting to install gnue-forms on my phone for some database work. When I didn't have mxdate time installed at all, I would run the gnue-forms installation script and it would complain, predictably, that I hadn't met the requirements. I apt-get installed it onto my ubuntu laptop and copied the produced files onto the phone, the application now tells me that I have the *wrong* mxdate time installed: r...@om-gta02:~/gnue-forms-0.6.1# python setup.py install running install checking GNUe Common Library checking mxDateTime library *** You don't have the (right) mxDateTime binaries installed ! --- Could not import the mx.DateTime package. Please install mxDateTime from the mxtools suite. The file 'INSTALL' contains more information about dependencies. r...@om-gta02:~/gnue-forms-0.6.1# I can produce the same results with: r...@om-gta02:~/gnue-forms-0.6.1# python Python 2.5.2 (r252:60911, Oct 14 2008, 01:51:25) [GCC 4.1.2] on linux2 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. import mx.DateTime *** You don't have the (right) mxDateTime binaries installed ! Traceback (most recent call last): File stdin, line 1, in module File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/mx/DateTime/__init__.py, line 8, in module from DateTime import * File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/mx/DateTime/DateTime.py, line 9, in module from mxDateTime import * File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/mx/DateTime/mxDateTime/__init__.py, line 13, in module raise ImportError, why ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/mx/DateTime/mxDateTime/mxDateTime.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory I see that /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/mx/DateTime/mxDateTime/mxDateTime.so is a binary file. Perhaps I could replace it with a compiled binary from the Openmoko debian distribution and it would work? All I would have to do then is get Debian to work on my openmoko ;-) Cheers, Joseph 2008/12/12 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi: Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com writes: Has anyone had any joy installing Egenix mx base on openmoko? Specifically I need mxDateTime, but I'm not having any luck getting anything installed: Not sure how much this helps with openmoko distro but with debian mxdatetime seems to install just fine on the phone: li...@ginger$ sudo apt-get install python-egenix-mxdatetime Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: libdrm2 Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. The following extra packages will be installed: python-egenix-mxtools Suggested packages: python-egenix-mxdatetime-dbg python-egenix-mxtools-dbg The following NEW packages will be installed: python-egenix-mxdatetime python-egenix-mxtools 0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 1178kB of archives. After this operation, 2023kB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y Get:1 http://ftp.fi.debian.org unstable/main python-egenix-mxtools 3.1.1-1 [512kB] Get:2 http://ftp.fi.debian.org unstable/main python-egenix-mxdatetime 3.1.1-1 [667kB] Fetched 1178kB in 3min47s (5177B/s) debconf: delaying package configuration, since apt-utils is not installed Selecting previously deselected package python-egenix-mxtools. (Reading database ... 36487 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking python-egenix-mxtools (from .../python-egenix-mxtools_3.1.1-1_armel.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package python-egenix-mxdatetime. Unpacking python-egenix-mxdatetime (from .../python-egenix-mxdatetime_3.1.1-1_armel.deb) ... Setting up python-egenix-mxtools (3.1.1-1) ... Setting up python-egenix-mxdatetime (3.1.1-1) ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: VAR market
Everything's at risk in the current global financial state ;-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_Added_Reseller 2008/12/17 Frederic Leroy fr...@starox.org: Le Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:14:33 +0100, Marcus Bauer mba...@bearstech.com a écrit : What is hackable:1 ? Hackable:1 is based on the DebianOnFreerunner but packaging the OM2007.2 applications, extending and bugfixing them. It is intended to become a stable platform for the VAR market and fun to use for everybody else. What is the VAR market ? Is it related to this : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_at_risk -- Frédéric Leroy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
mxDateTime on Openmoko?
Has anyone had any joy installing Egenix mx base on openmoko?
Specifically I need mxDateTime, but I'm not having any luck getting
anything installed:
r...@om-gta02:~/egenix-mx-base-3.1.1# python setup.py install
running install
running build
running mx_autoconf
arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc -march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t -DNDEBUG
-g -O3 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -fPIC -D_GNU_SOURCE=1 -I/usr/include
-c _configtest.c -o _configtest.o
arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc: error trying to exec 'cc1': execvp: No
such file or directory
failure.
removing: _configtest.c _configtest.o
arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc -march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t -DNDEBUG
-g -O3 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -fPIC -D_GNU_SOURCE=1
-I/usr/include/python2.5 -I/usr/include -c _configtest.c -o
_configtest.o
arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc: error trying to exec 'cc1': execvp: No
such file or directory
failure.
removing: _configtest.c _configtest.o
macros to define: [('BAD_STATIC_FORWARD', '1')]
macros to undefine: ['HAVE_STRPTIME']
running build_ext
building extension mx.DateTime.mxDateTime.mxDateTime (required)
building 'mx.DateTime.mxDateTime.mxDateTime' extension
arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc -march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t -DNDEBUG
-g -O3 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -fPIC -DUSE_FAST_GETCURRENTTIME
-DBAD_STATIC_FORWARD=1 -UHAVE_STRPTIME -Imx/DateTime/mxDateTime
-I/usr/include/python2.5 -I/usr/include -c
mx/DateTime/mxDateTime/mxDateTime.c -o
build/temp.linux-armv4tl-2.5_ucs2/mx-DateTime-mxDateTime-mxDateTime/mx/DateTime/mxDateTime/mxDateTime.o
arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc: error trying to exec 'cc1': execvp: No
such file or directory
error: command 'arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc' failed with exit status 1
r...@om-gta02:~/egenix-mx-base-3.1.1#
Any pointers etc would be gratefully received.
Thanks, Joseph
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Re: removing the Sudoku package
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#opkg list_installed | grep sudoku pyefl-sudoku - 0.0.2+svnr49-r1.01 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~9#opkg remove pyefl-sudoku (probably) 2008/12/11 Tony Berth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear Group, how is it possible to completely remove the Sudoku application which comes by default with the distro? I don't want just to 'hide' the icon from the GUI! Thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: removing the Sudoku package
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~9#opkg remove -force-depends pyefl-sudoku ? 2008/12/11 Carlo Minucci [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Joseph Reeves ha scritto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#opkg list_installed | grep sudoku pyefl-sudoku - 0.0.2+svnr49-r1.01 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~9#opkg remove pyefl-sudoku no, don't work because depend of another package (i don't remember the name) i have use the installer gui (click in bottom installer) for uninstall ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: openmoko as a ipv6 router - was Funding Global Domination Mk II The Console
I'm not sure how standalone avahi-discover-standalone is: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg install avahi-discover-standalone Installing avahi-discover-standalone (0.6.22-r8.01) to root... Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/armv4t/avahi-discover-standalone_0.6.22-r8.01_armv4t.opk Configuring avahi-discover-standalone [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# a addgroup adduseralsamixer apmd ar assassin atinterface addressbookalsactlapmapp-restarter ash atdawk I'd really like to get some more out of it. I'll have to re-read the testing instructions and the part where you're told to remove avahi to improve boot speed. Joseph 2008/12/10 Marc Manthey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am 10.12.2008 um 13:59 schrieb Andreas Fischer: Marc Manthey wrote: Am 10.12.2008 um 13:15 schrieb Andreas Fischer: Marc Manthey wrote: Second question I would like to know if there is a DNS server implementation or something like bonjour / avahi available for openmoko ? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg list_installed | grep avahi libavahi-client3 - 0.6.22-r8.01 - libavahi-common3 - 0.6.22-r8.01 - libavahi-core5 - 0.6.22-r8.01 - libavahi-glib1 - 0.6.22-r8.01 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# This is on testing, but I remember seeing these packages on 2008.9, too. thanks Andreas can you try this , and tell me the result ? # dns-sd -B _ftp._tcp dns-sd.org Sure, if you tell me which of the following packages I should install to get the dns-sd command: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg list | cut -d -f1 | grep avahi avahi avahi-autoipd avahi-daemon avahi-dbg avahi-dev avahi-discover avahi-discover-standalone avahi-dnsconfd avahi-doc avahi-locale-de avahi-utils libavahi-client3 libavahi-common3 libavahi-core5 libavahi-glib1 libavahi-gobject0 libavahi-ui pulseaudio-lib-avahi-wrap [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# wow , this is kind of rediculous for such a fuctionalliry isn´t it ? Are there any read me files where i can look for infos what the library does ? http://src.gnu-darwin.org/DarwinSourceArchive/expanded/mDNSResponder/mDNSResponder-87/mDNSShared/dnssd_clientshim.c Guess avahi-discover-standalone might be enough for browsing IMHO ? thanks marc -- Les Enfants Terribles - WWW.LET.DE Marc Manthey 50672 Köln - Germany Hildeboldplatz 1a Tel.:0049-221-3558032 Mobil:0049-1577-3329231 mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP/GnuPG: 0x1ac02f3296b12b4d jabber :[EMAIL PROTECTED] IRC: #opencu freenode.net twitter: http://twitter.com/macbroadcast web: http://www.let.de Opinions expressed may not even be mine by the time you read them, and certainly don't reflect those of any other entity (legal or otherwise). Please note that according to the German law on data retention, information on every electronic information exchange with me is retained for a period of six months. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: openmoko as a ipv6 router - was Funding Global Domination Mk II The Console
From another FreeRunner running 2008.9: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# a addgroup adduseralsamixer apmd ar assassin atinterfaceavahi-daemon addressbookalsactlapmapp-restarter ash atdavahi-autoipd awk [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# 2008/12/10 Marc Manthey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am 10.12.2008 um 14:38 schrieb Joseph Reeves: Configuring avahi-discover-standalone [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# a addgroup adduseralsamixer apmd ar assassin atinterface addressbookalsactlapmapp-restarter ash atdawk looks like the addressbook should be shared on .local now ? you should test from other device ? Marc Joseph 2008/12/10 Marc Manthey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am 10.12.2008 um 13:59 schrieb Andreas Fischer: Marc Manthey wrote: Am 10.12.2008 um 13:15 schrieb Andreas Fischer: Marc Manthey wrote: Second question I would like to know if there is a DNS server implementation or something like bonjour / avahi available for openmoko ? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg list_installed | grep avahi libavahi-client3 - 0.6.22-r8.01 - libavahi-common3 - 0.6.22-r8.01 - libavahi-core5 - 0.6.22-r8.01 - libavahi-glib1 - 0.6.22-r8.01 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# This is on testing, but I remember seeing these packages on 2008.9, too. thanks Andreas can you try this , and tell me the result ? # dns-sd -B _ftp._tcp dns-sd.org Sure, if you tell me which of the following packages I should install to get the dns-sd command: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg list | cut -d -f1 | grep avahi avahi avahi-autoipd avahi-daemon avahi-dbg avahi-dev avahi-discover avahi-discover-standalone avahi-dnsconfd avahi-doc avahi-locale-de avahi-utils libavahi-client3 libavahi-common3 libavahi-core5 libavahi-glib1 libavahi-gobject0 libavahi-ui pulseaudio-lib-avahi-wrap [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# wow , this is kind of rediculous for such a fuctionalliry isn´t it ? Are there any read me files where i can look for infos what the library does ? http://src.gnu-darwin.org/DarwinSourceArchive/expanded/mDNSResponder/mDNSResponder-87/mDNSShared/dnssd_clientshim.c Guess avahi-discover-standalone might be enough for browsing IMHO ? thanks marc -- Les Enfants Terribles - WWW.LET.DE Marc Manthey 50672 Köln - Germany Hildeboldplatz 1a Tel.:0049-221-3558032 Mobil:0049-1577-3329231 mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP/GnuPG: 0x1ac02f3296b12b4d jabber :[EMAIL PROTECTED] IRC: #opencu freenode.net twitter: http://twitter.com/macbroadcast web: http://www.let.de Opinions expressed may not even be mine by the time you read them, and certainly don't reflect those of any other entity (legal or otherwise). Please note that according to the German law on data retention, information on every electronic information exchange with me is retained for a period of six months. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Les Enfants Terribles - WWW.LET.DE Marc Manthey 50672 Köln - Germany Hildeboldplatz 1a Tel.:0049-221-3558032 Mobil:0049-1577-3329231 mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP/GnuPG: 0x1ac02f3296b12b4d jabber :[EMAIL PROTECTED] IRC: #opencu freenode.net twitter: http://twitter.com/macbroadcast web: http://www.let.de Opinions expressed may not even be mine by the time you read them, and certainly don't reflect those of any other entity (legal or otherwise). Please note that according to the German law on data retention, information on every electronic information exchange with me is retained for a period of six months. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[2009.testing] Problems with GPRS multiplexing
Dear all, I'm having trouble getting GPRS multiplexing to work on the latest testing release. Any help would be appreciated a lot. I've followed the guide here: http://www.teaparty.net/technotes/openmoko-2.html#GPRS Installing the multiplexing software as per Florian Hackenberger's instructions: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-August/028495.html The /etc/ppp/peers/gprs, /etc/ppp/chat-gprs /etc/ppp/chap-secrets were copied from theteaparty.net, but edited with the specific details for Vodafone UK (contract). I also copied the ppd-start script: http://www.teaparty.net/technotes/data/pppd-start Running it returns: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ./pppd-start Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildSignaled: Process /usr/libexec/dbus-daemon-launch-helper received signal 4 @om-gta02:/home/root# The phone then becomes unresponsive. The process mediaserver seems to be consuming massive amounts of resources from boot. Input from people running a working multiplexing setup would be massively appreciated. Thanks, Joseph ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Optimization team update (11/23 ~ 11/29)
GTK support seems mildly improved in the testing release, but I'm still having big troubles with it. Note, that relatively simple GTK apps, such as TangoGPS work without issue. We're running a complex GTK app: http://gvsigmobileonopenmoko.wordpress.com/ It works perfectly on 2007.2, but on 2008.x releases it suffers from multiple problems; layouting and stability seem to the big ones. It is improved when running on the latest testing release, but still not up to the standard of GTK applications on 2007.2. We were promised that we wouldn't need to worry about Openmoko moving away from GTK as the latest releases would still run GTK applications. However performance is clearly below an acceptable level. I will be filing bugs ASAP and would be very interested in hearing comments from others. If anyone would like a copy of the gvSIG Mobile ipk for testing, please let me know. Thanks, Joseph 2008/11/30 John Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear Community, As Sushama (our new testing team member) indicated in http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2008-November/003493.html , we won't have a release in Nov. Currently the testing team is going to do a full test on the latest testing image. It has all the goodies we did and a lot of improvements over Om2008.9, so please try it and report any error you find. Upgrade howto: From Om2008.9 it's recommanded to upgrade with the following steps: sed -i -e 's%Om2008.8%testing%' /etc/opkg/*.conf /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm stop screen -DR opkg update opkg -force-overwrite upgrade # (please ans Y to all questions) # (the sshd (dropbear) will restart, so you need to reconnect and do # 'screen -DR' again) opkg upgrade shutdown -r now To get the fastest boot time you also need to remove the following packages: opkg remove task-base-nfs task-base-smbfs task-base-bluetooth \ task-base-usbgadget avahi-daemon avahi-autoipd blueprobe \ usb-gadget-mode portmap exquisite exquisite-theme-freerunner \ exquisite-themes Known issues: * GTK redraw problem * some obsolete kernel modules still left in system * must remove 'ro' in kernel boot parameter if you use sd boot. * will purge your incompatible e config, so you might need to set stuffs like suspend time again. Echo: Since there are different hw versions out there (a5, a6, a7), it's impossible to provide one alsa state file that suits all models. However, it seems you can always find appropriate values for your neo. My way is to adjust control.4 Speaker Playback Volume in /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmhandset.state the max value is 127, 95 works best on my a5. With volume level 3 or 4 in qtopia dialer, the other side can hear no echo while I get good audio quality. Team update: Tick helped to put his touchscreen improvement into stable-tracking, he will work on opkg internals next. Olv moved to look into kernel and fso. Erin will try bluetooth. Julian is working on the GTK redraw issue, please help him out. Jeremy will fix some qtopia bugs and keep working on suspend/resume issues. Regards, John ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FTP Client
http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/yet_another_openmoko_ftp_client 2008/12/8 SCarlson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Crystal Ball? This question is not specific to a distro flavor. FSO or OM2008, Openmoko, Qtopia. An ARM port of a ftp client... Just curious if someone else has done the work already, if not I want to get one ported. Scott arne anka wrote: sorry, my crystal ball just broke ... please, prefix the subject with your distribution! it's not only a matter of politeness but, with the plethora of distributions available, a pure necessity to help people to help you! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/FTP-Client-tp1627481p1628969.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Optimization team update (11/23 ~ 11/29)
I've discovered the same: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2148 Joseph 2008/12/1 William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Loaded it up and it rebooted fine, but isnt usable. Ive lost the spanner so I cant configure it It goes to sleep automaticly after a few seconds and without the spanner I cant figure out how to disable it (I see you mention that sleep time needs to be reset - but how?). Same if I have it plugged into usb, goes to sleep while I am logged into it. The old settings icon is still present, but does nothing except spin for a few seconds and exits - tried logging in to faultfind it but - you guessed it, phone went to sleep. Its gone back to the huge icons - a real pain, again I cant see how to select the smaller ones without the spanner. Ive lost the terminal keyboard and only have the crappy ones left - unusable for anything serious, like trying to use a terminal to fix things :( I'll try an unmodified 2008.9 in a couple of days and see if my changes to make 2008.9 usable are the cause of the above. The good - gsm registered immediately, but then it went to sleep :( BillK On Sun, 2008-11-30 at 19:50 +0800, John Lee wrote: Dear Community, As Sushama (our new testing team member) indicated in http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2008-November/003493.html , we won't have a release in Nov. Currently the testing team is going to do a full test on the latest testing image. It has all the goodies we did and a lot of improvements over Om2008.9, so please try it and report any error you find. Upgrade howto: From Om2008.9 it's recommanded to upgrade with the following steps: sed -i -e 's%Om2008.8%testing%' /etc/opkg/*.conf /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm stop screen -DR opkg update opkg -force-overwrite upgrade # (please ans Y to all questions) # (the sshd (dropbear) will restart, so you need to reconnect and do # 'screen -DR' again) opkg upgrade shutdown -r now To get the fastest boot time you also need to remove the following packages: opkg remove task-base-nfs task-base-smbfs task-base-bluetooth \ task-base-usbgadget avahi-daemon avahi-autoipd blueprobe \ usb-gadget-mode portmap exquisite exquisite-theme-freerunner \ exquisite-themes Known issues: * GTK redraw problem * some obsolete kernel modules still left in system * must remove 'ro' in kernel boot parameter if you use sd boot. * will purge your incompatible e config, so you might need to set stuffs like suspend time again. Echo: Since there are different hw versions out there (a5, a6, a7), it's impossible to provide one alsa state file that suits all models. However, it seems you can always find appropriate values for your neo. My way is to adjust control.4 Speaker Playback Volume in /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmhandset.state the max value is 127, 95 works best on my a5. With volume level 3 or 4 in qtopia dialer, the other side can hear no echo while I get good audio quality. Team update: Tick helped to put his touchscreen improvement into stable-tracking, he will work on opkg internals next. Olv moved to look into kernel and fso. Erin will try bluetooth. Julian is working on the GTK redraw issue, please help him out. Jeremy will fix some qtopia bugs and keep working on suspend/resume issues. Regards, John ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Optimization team update (11/23 ~ 11/29)
I've got: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg status moko-gtk-engine Package: moko-gtk-engine Version: 0.1.0+svnr4734-r0 Depends: moko-gtk-theme, gtk+ (= 2.12.11), libatk-1.0-0 (= 1.20.0), pango (= 1.18.3), libcairo2 (= 1.6.4), libgobject-2.0-0 (= 2.16.4), libgmodule-2.0-0 (= 2.16.4), libc6 (= 2.6.1), libglib-2.0-0 (= 2.16.4) Status: install user installed Architecture: armv4t [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# And TangoGPS looks fine. There seems to be a strange problem with gtk apps that, when first loaded, they appear to freeze, but if you go back to home then select the open app from the top drop down list again, they work fine. It's an odd one to reproduce though, so I won't file a ticket yet. Joseph 2008/12/1 John Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 10:22:28PM +0900, William Kenworthy wrote: Thanks, also I was bit too rushed. I shut down X which allowed me to stay logged in and find out that the customisations to get the spanner and keyboards had been undone - fixed them and I can now use the phone. The suspend time is fixable from the spanner so the settings isnt needed. Some of my existing apps wont start (pypennotes, ...) so they probably need upgrading. openmoocow (old version) started once out of three tries - left me at a grey screen otherwise. At one point the display died and restarted itself when I tapped a blank part of the home screen. Fonts and widgets are far too large on apps like pythm, tangogps and the like. Just checking: Do you have moko-gtk-engine and moko-gtk-theme installed ? Tried a test call - no audio :( Probably need to set a profile, but need the settings app for that. BillK On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 12:51 +, Joseph Reeves wrote: I've discovered the same: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2148 Joseph 2008/12/1 William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Loaded it up and it rebooted fine, but isnt usable. Ive lost the spanner so I cant configure it It goes to sleep automaticly after a few seconds and without the spanner I cant figure out how to disable it (I see you mention that sleep time needs to be reset - but how?). Same if I have it plugged into usb, goes to sleep while I am logged into it. The old settings icon is still present, but does nothing except spin for a few seconds and exits - tried logging in to faultfind it but - you guessed it, phone went to sleep. Its gone back to the huge icons - a real pain, again I cant see how to select the smaller ones without the spanner. Ive lost the terminal keyboard and only have the crappy ones left - unusable for anything serious, like trying to use a terminal to fix things :( I'll try an unmodified 2008.9 in a couple of days and see if my changes to make 2008.9 usable are the cause of the above. The good - gsm registered immediately, but then it went to sleep :( BillK On Sun, 2008-11-30 at 19:50 +0800, John Lee wrote: Dear Community, As Sushama (our new testing team member) indicated in http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2008-November/003493.html , we won't have a release in Nov. Currently the testing team is going to do a full test on the latest testing image. It has all the goodies we did and a lot of improvements over Om2008.9, so please try it and report any error you find. Upgrade howto: From Om2008.9 it's recommanded to upgrade with the following steps: sed -i -e 's%Om2008.8%testing%' /etc/opkg/*.conf /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm stop screen -DR opkg update opkg -force-overwrite upgrade # (please ans Y to all questions) # (the sshd (dropbear) will restart, so you need to reconnect and do # 'screen -DR' again) opkg upgrade shutdown -r now To get the fastest boot time you also need to remove the following packages: opkg remove task-base-nfs task-base-smbfs task-base-bluetooth \ task-base-usbgadget avahi-daemon avahi-autoipd blueprobe \ usb-gadget-mode portmap exquisite exquisite-theme-freerunner \ exquisite-themes Known issues: * GTK redraw problem * some obsolete kernel modules still left in system * must remove 'ro' in kernel boot parameter if you use sd boot. * will purge your incompatible e config, so you might need to set stuffs like suspend time again. Echo: Since there are different hw versions out there (a5, a6, a7), it's impossible to provide one alsa state file that suits all models. However, it seems you can always find appropriate values for your neo. My way is to adjust control.4 Speaker Playback Volume in /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmhandset.state the max value is 127, 95 works best on my a5. With volume level 3 or 4 in qtopia dialer, the other side can hear no echo while I get good audio quality. Team update: Tick helped to put his touchscreen improvement into stable-tracking, he
Re: Optimization team update (11/23 ~ 11/29)
Thanks Tom, Looks like _the_ big problem I've come across is well known to a fair few people. Cheers, Joseph 2008/12/1 Thomas White [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:31:03 + Joseph Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There seems to be a strange problem with gtk apps that, when first loaded, they appear to freeze, but if you go back to home then select the open app from the top drop down list again, they work fine. It's an odd one to reproduce though, so I won't file a ticket yet. That's exactly bug #1946, so no need to file a ticket... https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1946 Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: A light for the Freerunner
Hi patrick, thanks for the link. You've encouraged me to create a much improved (?) version of my usb button. It'll be on planet.openmoko.org on monday. Cheers, j On 28/11/2008, Patrick Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, because i like my light on my older phone, a Sony Ericsson W800i, i added a light on the miniusb - connector. Perhaps anybody like it or has any improvements for me :D Here you can find a wiki article about the light http://yourse.de/wiki/doku.php?id=openmoko:usb_light And here two videos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK5w-OHSm9g http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2H4QZq2xxE It was a proof-of-concept and it works! Perhaps Openmoko likes the idea and adds a light directly into the case in the next generation of devices :) At least manufacutring at one's own risk ;) Have fun! with kind regards Patrick Beck ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: kismet on freerunner
Which would be why NeoPwn comes with a compatible USB wifi adapter. J 2008/11/26 Graeme Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 14:18 +0100, jhig wrote: hi, i don't know if this was allready a topic here: does kismet run on freerunner? i installed debian and the kismet package. now i have to insert the right source into the kismet.conf file. i tried source=ath5k,eth0,wifi but all i get is: debian-gta02:~/progs# kismet_server Suid priv-dropping disabled. This may not be secure. No specific sources given to be enabled, all will be enabled. Non-RFMon VAPs will be destroyed on multi-vap interfaces (ie, madwifi-ng) Enabling channel hopping. Enabling channel splitting. NOTICE: Disabling channel hopping, no enabled sources are able to change channel. Source 0 (wifi): Enabling monitor mode for ath5k source interface eth0 channel 6... FATAL: Failed to set monitor mode: Invalid argument. This usually means your drivers either do not support monitor mode, or use a different mechanism for getting to it. Make sure you have a version of your drivers that support monitor mode, and consult the troubleshooting section of the README. I think that message is self explanatory. The drivers don't support monitor mode so you cant use kismet. Graeme (XorA) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
testing Jalimo on Openmoko
Dear all, Apologies for cross-posting, but I wanted to catch both the Jalimo and Openmoko communities in one go. I've been testing gvSIG on Openmoko Jalimo [1], but we've come up with a problem that seems to be either caused by myself doing something stupid, or by Jalimo working slightly differently across different Openmoko distributions. The problem is this: gvSIG mobile is originally tested on a FreeRunner running Jalimo on Openmoko 2007.2, as part of it's operation you can select to open a file, this then produces a open location dialogue. The same does not happen, however, on any other version of Openmoko I've tried. To test on various platforms, I've created a simple application. You will need to install from Jalimo: cacao, classpath and clsspath-gtk I've followed the wiki instructions for this: https://wiki.evolvis.org/jalimo/index.php/OpenMoko You can then: opkg install http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/resource/java-test_0.1_armv4t.ipk This will place a little javatest button in your installed apps menu. Clicking on it, *should* open an open file dialogue. It doesn't work on 2008.9, but why is that? If anyone else is able to test I'd be greatly appreciative, and even more so if an answer can be found, even if it is just me being an idiot! Many thanks in advance, Joseph [1] http://gvsigmobileonopenmoko.wordpress.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Vote! Zimbra Mobile on the Openmoko
Hi Sledge, Sounds like a great project! Let me know if there's any testing or similar you want done. I'm currently using the Mail for Exchange application to sync my Nokia N96 with the Zimbra system we've got here at work; it's working very nicely and I'd love to have something similar for Openmoko. Features I use and like: * Synchronizing of mail and calender items (I don't use the contact synching, although there are a couple of people here that do) * Peak / Off Peak synching schedules And really, that's about it. A short list for sure! My emails come through just as text messages do and my calender is up to date. Something simple that just works would be great :) Joseph 2008/11/7 sledge [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello all, I am to write a component for Zimbra for my study course. I would like to write something for openmoko (better developing on FSO i think?) could you guys say what would be most wanted, or at least to start with? -- because a guy @freenode said there are many things to do :) Something initiative, small, e.g. a contacts client? Thanks a pint for the hint :) -- sledge -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Vote%21-Zimbra-Mobile-on-the-Openmoko-tp9362p1469807.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need help to run java apps on openmoko
From memory this is, so may be completely wrong, but I'd: opkg install --force-depends cacao opkg install --force-depends classpath opkg install --force-depends classpath-gtk If I remember correctly, there was a bug in classpath that was causing it to report a successful installation, whereas in reality it was going wrong. Forcing all three got it to work for me. Best of luck, 2008/10/31 Jim Ancona [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Peter Neubauer wrote: Mmh, it seems your jvm is not finding the Java base classes. Do you ave Classpath installed? You could try to explicitly point out the classes.zip file of your JRE using cacao -cp PATH/TO/classes.zip .jar myJar.jar HTH, probably others on this list know more ... I agree with Peter, your problem sounds CLASSPATH related. I had pretty good luck using Jalimo [1] to package Java apps for my Freerunner. I was able to run a SWT GUI app, although it was very slow. Jim [1] - https://wiki.evolvis.org/jalimo/index.php/Main_Page ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: External wired small USB keyboard
Hi Jeff, Prices have yet to be set in stone, but we're looking for c.£40 for the larger model, with the smaller one obviously going for less. Stocks are unfortunately very limited at the moment - we had a lot of interest after I first blogged about them and both ourselves and the manufacturer were unable to keep up with demand. We've had a batch produced for us and are awaiting delivery. Thanks, Joseph 2008/10/24 Jeffrey Ratcliffe [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/10/24 Joseph Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://oadigital.net/hardware/duraflex Especially the smaller model: http://oadigital.net/hardware/duraflex/duraflex-mini Do you have any prices? Regards Jeff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: External wired small USB keyboard
Hi Pander, The only LEDs are Num Lock, Caps Lock and Scroll Lock; as such in normal operation they're unlit. I can't find it now, but I had a spec sheet that had the power consumption listed - I'll email the list when I've dug it up. I imagine they could be removed by the end user, but I'm not convinced that it's something that the manufacturer should be doing. The meta key on our next batch will be the Windows key (they were ordered before this discussion started). I've got a Sun keyboard on my desk with the diamond keys on it and whilst I like the idea of removing the Windows logo, doing so will cost (somebody) money. It's something I will look into if demand is high; as it stands, however, I'd rather sell all my Windows key branded keyboards first. Cheers, Joseph 2008/10/27 Pander [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Joseph, Any change to have the LEDs removed to save power consumption (and weight ;))? What will the meta key be? Can that still be that diamond square? Thanks, Pander Joseph Reeves wrote: Hi Jeff, Prices have yet to be set in stone, but we're looking for c.£40 for the larger model, with the smaller one obviously going for less. Stocks are unfortunately very limited at the moment - we had a lot of interest after I first blogged about them and both ourselves and the manufacturer were unable to keep up with demand. We've had a batch produced for us and are awaiting delivery. Thanks, Joseph 2008/10/24 Jeffrey Ratcliffe [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/10/24 Joseph Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://oadigital.net/hardware/duraflex Especially the smaller model: http://oadigital.net/hardware/duraflex/duraflex-mini Do you have any prices? Regards Jeff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need help to run java apps on openmoko
Hi Girish, I've been running gvSIG mobile [1], a java app, on Jalimo [2]. gvSIG mobile isn't freely available yet, but keep an eye on planet.openmoko.org for an announcement in the (hopefully) near future. Cheers, Joseph [1] http://gvsigmobileonopenmoko.wordpress.com/ [2] https://wiki.evolvis.org/jalimo/index.php/Main_Page 2008/10/24 Girish Revadigar [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Max, Thank you for your reply. From the information on this site, looks like we need to do some external work to get java run on openmoko. Can you please suggest some java packages available which can be installed in openmoko? Thank you Girish On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Max Giesbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: have you checked http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Java ? please update if necessary... Girish Revadigar schrieb: Hi, I am new to openmoko. I want to run one of my java based GUI application on openmoko. But when I tried to check for the java support on the newly brought model, I found there is no java utility pre installed (Any JVM for running java apps). So can you guide me how can I set up my openmoko to run java applications on it? Is there any extra package I need to install? Please guide me, without finding it I can't proceed. Your valuable suggestion will be greatly helpful for me. Thank you Regards Girish +91 99867 64809 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- exactt technology Dipl. Inf. (FH) Max Giesbert Schießstättstr. 16 T: +49 17 75 07 53 44 D-80339 München F: +49 89 1 22 21 97 02 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: External wired small USB keyboard
Hi, We don't have any with a built in USB hub, but you may be interested in: http://oadigital.net/hardware/duraflex Especially the smaller model: http://oadigital.net/hardware/duraflex/duraflex-mini Cheers, Joseph 2008/10/24 Pander [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, I'm looking for a wired small USB keyboard to use on a Freerunner. I'm looking for one: - which is small in size, max 12 inch or 30 cm wide - has qwerty layout - has preferably no multi media buttons / hot keys - has preferably no LEDs - has a type A USB hub - has a mini type B USB jack Especially the last requirement is hard to match (find). So far I'm stuck with: http://www.fentek-ind.com/kbmsm.htm http://www.fentek-ind.com/kbmsmusbb2.htm http://www.directron.com/kl51.html http://www.directron.com/psk3100u.html Does any of you know of a keyboard matches more of the above requirements? Thanks, Pander ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMooCow 0.1
I just loaded this onto a colleagues phone - he said he wanted a cat and suggested the name OpenMeowKo :) 2008/10/14 Thomas White [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm pleased to be able to announce version 0.1 of my advanced accelerometer and audio framework testing system, OpenMooCow. Available from http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~taw27/openmoko/openmoocow/ When installed and run, OpenMooCow displays an artistic rendition of a fine specimen of Friesian dairy cattle. Invert the device and return it to an upright orientation to experience the pinnacle of audio rendering kwality. The sound effect can be altered by putting a suitable WAV file in /usr/share/openmoocow/moo.wav. A credit is due to Chris Hendricks who is the author of the original sound file (obtained from www.flashkit.com). Comments/abuse to this address. Tom -- Thomas White Department of Materials Science and Metallurgy Electron Microscopy Group (PhD Student) University of Cambridge / Downing College ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: background image
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Edje I think 2008/9/26 Cédric DUFOUIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Can anybody explain where is the best way to find edje_decc ? Thanks a lot ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: help building ipk packages
Not using bb, but this is how I made a small ipk from source: http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/3 Joseph 2008/9/26 Nicolas Laurance [EMAIL PROTECTED]: hi community gurus, I've done my homework, at least I tried to, reading through the wiki and elsewhere http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1084542 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/BitBake_recipe http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile http://faassen.n--tree.net/blog/view/weblog/2007/09/26/0 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Customizing_the_Openmoko_Distribution#Adding_Python_scripts_as_applications http://handhelds.org/~pb/bitbake.pdf still building a simple package remains a mystery to me following the instructions of the wiki, regarding the setup of openembed the monotone command always fail (at least 6 retries):: $ mtn --db=OE.mtn pull monotone.openembedded.org org.openembedded.dev mtn: doing anonymous pull; use -kKEYNAME if you need authentication mtn: connecting to monotone.openembedded.org mtn: finding items to synchronize: mtn: certificates | keys | revisions mtn: 76,060 | 76 |25,058 mtn: bytes in | bytes out | certs in | revs in mtn: 1.4 M | 1.3 M |0 | 0 mtn: bytes in | bytes out |certs in | revs in mtn: 3.1 M | 1.4 M | 1,797/4,018 | 441/991 mtn: error: I/O failure while talking to peer monotone.openembedded.org, disconnecting Time spent in user mode (CPU seconds) : 3270.584s Time spent in kernel mode (CPU seconds) : 49.617s Total time : 4:22:48.15s However, MY QUESTION IS : how can I build an ipk package out of a project source file ?? please, can someone, give a simple example, choosing a running program of some kind, of the steps to follow the bb recipe and the procedure to produce a small ipk All I've found is scarecely documented, and is concerning a global image for the moko. many, many thanks NiL ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The wifi antenna
You really shouldn't be attempting any tests whilst holding any wifi gear right next to other bits of kit. It's like getting two people to scream in each other's ears and wondering why they didn't report a good experiance. I'd re-run the tests from a different room to the one the access point is in and seeing what happens then. Joseph 2008/9/21 Yogiz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, How good is the Freerunner's wifi supposed to be. If I do an iwlist scan with my laptop two meters from the AP, I get link quality of 96/100. However with the Freerunner, even if I hold it right next to the AP's antenna I get a maximum of 51/100. Most APs that my laptop finds just fine show a link quality of 0 or 1 on the FR. Is that just what the FR's antenna is like or should I contact my distributor for warranty? Yogiz P.S. I accidently sent it from a different e-mail accound previously but I have no idea if it came through. If it did, sorry for the duplicate. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Neopwn
I'm sure others have seen the Slashdot article, but in case you haven't: http://mobile.slashdot.org/mobile/08/09/21/1730256.shtml I'm just looking forward to being able to download the code to run on one of my phones :) Joseph ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: A mailing list for FLOSS-GPS community?
If there's enough interest in starting a mailing list we can host it @ openarchaeology.net Let me know if that would be desired. Joseph On 18/09/2008, Brian Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I asked the maintainer of the freegis.org site if he knew of a list targeted at gps and he did not. I tried to post to the GPS Software Hub google group and the posting is being held in the moderation queue. (Moderation is fine but someone has to do the moderating so that the messages go out in a timely fashion.) I don't have a good feeling about how that group is being used and maybe we should not be hijacking it for software development. It's had more of an end-user focus. I am not a big fan of Google but I suggest hosting the list there because it actually works quite well. I especially like the RSS feature. On the other hand OSGEO is a really good group, I like there projects and people. Mapserver, GRASS, QGIs .. Flip a coin. You decide. But can we not use the word FLOSS in the group description? That just makes me think of dental hygiene. Brian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
