Re: GNU/Linux Wrist Watch

2010-05-04 Thread Joseph Reeves
TI's Chronos would be able to display the things you're after:

http://focus.ti.com/docs/toolsw/folders/print/ez430-chronos.html

You just need to install the wireless module for it in / near your FreeRunner.

Cheers, Joseph



On 4 May 2010 02:24, Esben Stien b...@esben-stien.name wrote:
 Does something like this exist?. If not, please, someone start making
 it.

 I really want a thick wrist watch with a big display that follows the
 curvature of my arm.

 It can provide several status indicators, like new mail, new jabber
 messages, time, location, etc and notify you of whatever. There's
 millions of awesome stuff you could do with something like this.

 It can have a simple interaction interface and you can pull out your
 freerunner when you need to do the other more advanced stuff.

 Please, someone start making it;).

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Re: The Origin of the Freerunner Shape!

2010-04-13 Thread Joseph Reeves
Has there been any explanation of the guitar pick that shipped with
the GTA01? If I remember correctly, Sean said that it was an
interesting story that he'd tell one day. I never saw the follow up
though.

Cheers, Joseph





On 13 April 2010 13:46, Werner Almesberger wer...@openmoko.org wrote:
 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
 I have finally found where the shape and visual appearance of the
 Neo1973 and Freerunner come from:

 Close :-) I've been told that the case originally came from a
 phone intended for the Chinese Olympics. The rounded form would
 mimick the outline of the Olympic rings. This probably also
 explains the rugged design.

 As far as I know, that phone never made it to production and the
 Openmoko project then inherited the device, radically changed
 its internals, and so on.

 - Werner

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Re: The Origin of the Freerunner Shape!

2010-04-13 Thread Joseph Reeves
Well I know that, but a fingernail does the job just as well. In fact,
own the phone for a while and gravity will do the job for you.

Sean said, however, that there was a good story about choosing a
guitar pick as the case opener...



On 13 April 2010 14:01, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote:
 Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com writes:
 Has there been any explanation of the guitar pick that shipped with
 the GTA01? If I remember correctly, Sean said that it was an

 It's for opening the case.

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Re: Some questions about TangoGPS

2010-01-08 Thread Joseph Reeves
(Maybe thats enough OT for now :) )

This isn't an OT list, thank the lord. We do use apostrophes though! ;-)

Joseph



2010/1/8 Fabian Schölzel fabian.schoel...@googlemail.com:
 2010/1/8 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com:
 and I almost always top-post, so what :)

 So i'm trying middle posting right now! ;)

 I made a joke about his In the name of... heading, but I don't care what
 people write
 to me it's about the same as yo nigga biatches, whats up?;
 not really my kind of talk, but hey, if it rocks your boat..

 I didn't meant you with my comment, Yorick.

 Cheers,
 Fabian

 (Maybe thats enough OT for now :) )

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Re: TangoGPS font size for speed indicator

2010-01-07 Thread Joseph Reeves
 I have founded tangogps and spent over 2000 hours of development on it
 so quite naturally I am the SABDFL of tangogps. And it is a rather
 successful project: it has been picked up by over 25 distributions and
 it has far more than 100.000 happy users in pretty much every corner of
 the world.

I honestly believe that if it wasn't for TangoGPS, and therefore
yourself Marcus, the initial uptake of the Openmoko devices would have
been much slower. This community owes a great deal to your hard work.
OpenStreetMap has probably benefited too as well. TangoGPS
demonstrated that the Neo1973 and FreeRunner were (are) viable
platforms and that there was (is) value to be gained from a phone
running Open Source software. By demonstrated I mean that you could
give the phone to someone, have them walk around outside, and they'd
come back excited about what could be done.

I remember getting an engineering sample of the FreeRunner and having
many email conversations with Markus about getting TangoGPS to run on
it. It wasn't exactly hard, but I was known to make a mistake or two
along the way; at least in the end TangoGPS was about the first
application I ran on the FreeRunner and I was, I think, the first
person to ever do it. Thankfully Openmoko inc saw the value and sent
Marcus a phone too.

Thanks for all your contributions Marcus, we all owe you a lot, even
if some people fail to realise that.

Cheers, Joseph



2010/1/7 Marcus Bauer marcus.ba...@gmail.com:
 On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 23:36:21 +0200
 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote:

 The community shall be the judge and point me where did I go wrong.

 The community did already: Risto Kurppa, you have been sending me your
 massively abusive emails after the release of 0.9.3. They were so far
 beyond anything acceptable that I

  a) got a lawyer in Helsinki to deal with you and
  b) informed the Ubuntu Community Council.

 The Ubuntu Community Council consists of experienced and well
 respected members of the open source community and the council was very
 concerned about your behaviour, Risto Kurppa. The reply was written by a
 certain well known 'Mark Shuttleworth' from which I guess I can cite the
 following quote:

  | Thanks for raising this with us. The language he has used is very
  | unfortunate, it does come across as I will embarrass you unless you
  | respond the way I want you to, and that's not something we could
  | support in an Ubuntu member.

 I have nothing to add to that.

 The fact that you have registered #tangogps on freenode against the
 policy that only people affiliated with the project shall register a
 channel and after your inadequate behaviour in the past is thus pure
 provocation.

 Open source / free software is a meritocracy - the more you do for a
 project the more you can influence it. Actually writing friendly emails
 gains everyone quickly influence. Writing abusive emails like you
 did to me a year ago, Risto Kurppa, certainly does not gain you
 influence.

 I have founded tangogps and spent over 2000 hours of development on it
 so quite naturally I am the SABDFL of tangogps. And it is a rather
 successful project: it has been picked up by over 25 distributions and
 it has far more than 100.000 happy users in pretty much every corner of
 the world.

 Just have a look how many projects are on sourceforge that are 0.0.1
 alpha and never took off. I'd say less than 5% of the projects come to
 life and stay alive for more than 2 years. It needs dedication, energy
 and cojones to get a project off the ground. And a good deal of the
 ernergy comes from people using it, from people sending feedback, from
 people spreading the word because they like it.

 Thanks to all those that have one way or other contributed to tangoGPS
 - your energy was and is well appreciated and put to good use :)


 Marcus Bauer
 Developer of tangoGPS - the fast and user friendly map viewer
 http://www.tangogps.org/





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Re: How to publish a piece of software in python?

2009-11-29 Thread Joseph Reeves
An ipk file is just a load of files packaged together. These are
distributed as you see fit, then opkg installs your application by
extracting the relevant files to the places you want them. All very
easy (said, literally, as an average Joe) if you use the ipkg-build
script. More info:

http://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=IPKG_Howto

Of course, a good way to learn is to grab any ipk file, extract it,
and see what it does.

Cheers, Joseph



2009/11/29 Ivo van den Maagdenberg ivo.vdmaagdenb...@gmail.com:
 I have a rather simple request: what is the procedure to publish a set
 of python script files, into a distributable package for releasing it
 to the opkg feeds?

 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain posed me some challanges. After 
 reaching
 How to create your own project from the sample project it seems this
 whole method is for a c-programs... this turns me down, sorry.

 So, where is the simple 5-10 step procedure for average joes like me?

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Re: Increasing GPS accuracy with EGNOS

2009-10-06 Thread Joseph Reeves
 Someone tell me what command to run on what distro and I'll let you all 
 know...

Oh, and somebody write a SISNeT application too ;-)

http://www.egnos-pro.esa.int/sisnet/index.html



2009/10/5 Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com:
This is probably worth checking to see what is actually happening
 when in Europe,

 Someone tell me what command to run on what distro and I'll let you all 
 know...



 2009/10/5 Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk:
 On Sunday 04 October 2009, Erik Lundin wrote:
 Good news, indeed. Does the Neo FreeRunner support EGNOS signals? Both
 the hardware and software?

 http://www.u-blox.com/en/download-center.html?task=view.downloadcid=83

 According to this the Antaris 4 is capable of using WAAS, EGNOS and MSAS,
 collectively known as SBAS, and the signal is received through the GPS
 antenna. By default it is enabled, with one search channel, although this can
 be configured through the ubx protocol. The status can also be shown in ubx
 messages. This is probably worth checking to see what is actually happening
 when in Europe, as when it was written EGNOS was in test mode, and its use 
 was
 disabled by default. It is unclear whether this was because of a 'test mode'
 flag in the signal or hardcoding in the firmware.

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Re: tangogps 0.9.7 release

2009-10-06 Thread Joseph Reeves
 myself, i'd be inclined to ignore them and carry on uploading tracks

+1



2009/10/3 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com:
 2009/10/3 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no:
 Actually, I got a mail once telling me not to do that. Seems there were
 limited room on servers, and too much of my tracks were known stuff.
 So now I only edit with josm, I don't upload tracks.

 who told you that? i'd be very surprised if that was anyone who
 actually had an involvement with the osm infrastructure (servers,
 etc.). the people involved in maintaining and directing osm are pretty
 light in their instructions to everyone else (which has good and bad
 side effects...)

 myself, i'd be inclined to ignore them and carry on uploading tracks

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Re: Increasing GPS accuracy with EGNOS

2009-10-05 Thread Joseph Reeves
This is probably worth checking to see what is actually happening
when in Europe,

Someone tell me what command to run on what distro and I'll let you all know...



2009/10/5 Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk:
 On Sunday 04 October 2009, Erik Lundin wrote:
 Good news, indeed. Does the Neo FreeRunner support EGNOS signals? Both
 the hardware and software?

 http://www.u-blox.com/en/download-center.html?task=view.downloadcid=83

 According to this the Antaris 4 is capable of using WAAS, EGNOS and MSAS,
 collectively known as SBAS, and the signal is received through the GPS
 antenna. By default it is enabled, with one search channel, although this can
 be configured through the ubx protocol. The status can also be shown in ubx
 messages. This is probably worth checking to see what is actually happening
 when in Europe, as when it was written EGNOS was in test mode, and its use was
 disabled by default. It is unclear whether this was because of a 'test mode'
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Re: tangogps 0.9.7 release

2009-09-22 Thread Joseph Reeves
 You may instead always have the track logging switched on - so you will
 always have all information. And maybe in twenty years time it is funny
 to see where you were ;)

And, of course, there's no harm in uploading a track to OSM even if
someone has been there before - even better if you go down a well
trodden path and then deviate from it. Oh yeah, and I also spent a
couple of days walking around Cairo convinced that TangoGPS was
logging where I was going until I decided to just leave it on all the
time ;-)



2009/9/22 Marcus Bauer marcus.ba...@gmail.com:
 On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 12:38:00 +0200
 Michael Zanetti michael_zane...@gmx.net wrote:

 Sometimes, when I use tangogps for navigating I end up in areas not
 yet mapped on OSM. In that case it would be great to be able to store
 the current track afterwards if the Track logging has not been
 started before. Currently TangoGPS throws away the current track
 information if one presses Start Logging.

 Hello Michael,

 This is internally a different data structure in order to save memory,
 lacking time, speed and altitude information.

 You may instead always have the track logging switched on - so you will
 always have all information. And maybe in twenty years time it is funny
 to see where you were ;)

 Marcus

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Re: 2.6.31 is out, where is my ultimate kernel?

2009-09-10 Thread Joseph Reeves
* improved everything.

I think this is the least we could expect! ;-)

But yes, I'm also interested as a non-kernel person about hearing
what's happening in that area. Could it go in the community updates?

Thanks all, keep up the good work :)



2009/9/10 Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com:
 Hi!

 I just want to notice the list that the 2.6.31 final kernel is out.
 Everybody was
 waiting for it, to be able properly merge all patches floating around.

 So I expect with the new kernel the following features:
 * KMS
 * BFS scheduler
 * imporved wifi
 * improved gprs
 * improved resume time
 * improved battery management, aka dump battery support
 * No WSOD anymore for sure (not even in cold/warm or temperature change)
 * improved everything.

 Can the kernel developers let the community know, when new important
 things happens? Is the new git structure is already in place?
 Is the patches are revisited and cleaned up for the new kernel?
 What patches didnt go upstream?

 There are *many* interesting questions, which can be interested
 to us, non kernel hackers.

 Btw, who are the people behind it, who is responsible for what?
 Some kind of summerization, and updates about the process
 would be more then welcome on this link. (I think others agree
 with me).

 So start flow a bit of information to us, mortals;)

 Best regards,
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Re: 2.6.31 is out, where is my ultimate kernel?

2009-09-10 Thread Joseph Reeves
 You are more than welcome to add content :)

Don't think it would be very insightful comment though ;-)



2009/9/10 Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.pl:
 [cut]
 But yes, I'm also interested as a non-kernel person about hearing
 what's happening in that area. Could it go in the community updates?
 You are more than welcome to add content :)
 [cut]

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Re: Interesting Linux development for lower resources machines from Con Kolivas

2009-09-09 Thread Joseph Reeves
Great, thanks Tom, I'll have a look at that later. Does it seem to
make any difference for you?

Cheers, Joseph



2009/9/9 Thomas White t...@bitwiz.org.uk:
 On Sun, 6 Sep 2009 15:27:13 +0100
 Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com wrote:

  Now for someone to find the time to try this ;-)

 I applied the latest BFS patch to the andy-tracking branch of the
 kernel but it wouldn't build - probably an indication of my noob
 kernel skills rather than the applicability of the patch, however.
 Would also be very interested if someone else got this to work ;-)

 Here's my first stab at getting the patch to apply to our kernel, done
 against drm-tracking but applicable to andy-tracking as well.  Your
 milage may vary - I don't really know my way around these parts of the
 kernel, and I may have just done it wrong, but it compiles (with a
 couple of warnings) and boots for me:

 http://www.bitwiz.org.uk/openmoko/BFS-andy-tracking-and-drm-tracking-BARELY-TESTED.patch

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Re: Interesting Linux development for lower resources machines from Con Kolivas

2009-09-08 Thread Joseph Reeves
SHR + 2.6.31 + BFS + OpenWRT drivers = win?



2009/9/8 Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com:
 On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabrar...@ansol.org 
 wrote:
 http://twitter.com/cyanogen/status/3836404163
 One last thing.. you know the lag you get when your phone rings and it 
 doesn't display right away? Yeah thats gone now.

 On a wl500 router the performance hit is 1.5 time faster;)
 http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernelm=125233663823328w=2

 Laszlo

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Re: Interesting Linux development for lower resources machines from Con Kolivas

2009-09-08 Thread Joseph Reeves
 What's up with the drivers from OpenWRT? Are they different? Why aren't they 
 merged?

I've only really read on here about them, but I'm told that some are
complete rewrites that provide potentially big improvements. Don't
know about their status in other distributions, however.

Forgot to add + new glamo stuff in my list too; looks like the pieces
are coming together...

Cheers, Joseph



2009/9/8 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@ansol.org:
 What's up with the drivers from OpenWRT? Are they different? Why aren't they 
 merged?

 On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 11:04:56AM +0100, Joseph Reeves wrote:
 SHR + 2.6.31 + BFS + OpenWRT drivers = win?

 2009/9/8 Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com:
  On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabrar...@ansol.org 
  wrote:
  http://twitter.com/cyanogen/status/3836404163
  One last thing.. you know the lag you get when your phone rings and it 
  doesn't display right away? Yeah thats gone now.
 
  On a wl500 router the performance hit is 1.5 time faster;)
  http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernelm=125233663823328w=2

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Re: Interesting Linux development for lower resources machines from Con Kolivas

2009-09-06 Thread Joseph Reeves
 Now for someone to find the time to try this ;-)

I applied the latest BFS patch to the andy-tracking branch of the
kernel but it wouldn't build - probably an indication of my noob
kernel skills rather than the applicability of the patch, however.
Would also be very interested if someone else got this to work ;-)

Cheers, Joseph




2009/9/2 c_c cchan...@yahoo.com:

 Hi,
  I used to use the -ck patches for my kernels while they were around and
 they were always more responsive on my desktop than the standard kernels.
  If this makes the FR more responsive - its would be worthwhile trying -
 just to see if it makes any difference at all.
  Now for someone to find the time to try this ;-)
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Re: which gps app can do this?

2009-07-06 Thread Joseph Reeves
gvSIG Mobile 0.1.4 was released today, here's a guide that should help you:

http://gvsigmobileonopenmoko.wordpress.com/download/

Create a shapefile of your coast line (or download a shapefile for a
country) and you should be good to go.

http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/unofficial_gvsig_mobile_0_1

Cheers, Joseph




2009/6/28 lanzo lanz...@gmail.com:

 Hi!
 I'd like to be using my FR on my little boat as marine GPS. I was curious
 if, in your opinion, it could be possible to constantly show  the distance
 between me and the nearest point on the coast line. This would be important
 because in my country (and i guess everywhere) there are rules about the
 little boats distances from the coast and I cannot overcome 3 nautical
 miles.

 I know it should be possible to show the distances between my present
 position and any given point, but what about something always displaying the
 distances between my position and the nearest point on the coast?

 is there maybe any more in-topic forum where i can ask this?

 Thank you very much for any answer!
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Re: Using WMS servers on TangoGPS

2009-07-03 Thread Joseph Reeves
Great stuff! :)

What map projections are supported? I guess just spherical mercator?

Cheers, Joseph



2009/7/3 David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com:
 Dear all,
 I have published a piece of PHP in the tuxbrain blog[1] that allows to
 translate the OSM tile sistem used by TangoGPS(and omgps) to a
 standard OGC WMS 1.1.1 web services,
 In the code[2] is an example implemented the Institut Catala de
 Cartografia (http://www.icc.cat) but I think the hard stuff (changing
 coordinates), change datum, etc can be reused to other wms server out
 there, the maps usually are free aviable for non comercial use, so I
 think it can be interesting to use other maps source than OSM (low
 detail in some zones) or google maps (not able to mass download).
 The article is in spanish but the source code comments are on english.
 As always comments are welcome.

 [1]http://www.tuxbrain.com/usando-mapas-wms-en-tangogps
 [2]http://www.tuxbrain.com/sites/default/files/tiletoUTM-0_1_tar.bz2

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Re: which gps app can do this?

2009-06-28 Thread Joseph Reeves
I woder if you could hack something up based on the upcoming Courier
Mode feature in gvSIG Mobile:

http://gvsigmobileonopenmoko.wordpress.com/2009/06/24/with-the-new-courier-mode-openmoko-actively-guides-you-through-the-city/

Cheers, Joseph



2009/6/28 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm:
 Alternatively, place POIs along the coast (how dense depends on the accuracy
 you want to have). Calculate the minimum distance from the set of POIs.

 2009/6/28 mqy meng.qing...@gmail.com

 hi lanzo,

 I have to say that your problem is interesting, but it's a bit too
 specific
 for a GPS application to do this.
 One quick and dirty solution is:

 You write a small application which:
 1) calculate a polygon area which contains the allowed range. to do this
 you
 have to use web map or standalone map. The polygon nodes are lat/lon
 pairs.
 2) get GPS fix from fso ogpsd through DBUS API. this is not difficult with
 python
 3) periodically (say every five seconds) test if current position goes out
 of predefined area.
   if the test result is true, then warn with sound (aplay command).

 To see where you are, you can run a GPS application at the same time.

 I'm the writer of omgps, I'm planning to extend omgps to solve this kind
 of
 problem --
 allow user register his/her python script as plugin, omgps periodically
 call
 each plugin,
 passing parameters of current lat/lon/altitude, etc. Periodically can be
 defined as: (1) on each fix (2) every N seconds.

 Welcome your feed back :)


 lanzo wrote:
 
  Hi!
  I'd like to be using my FR on my little boat as marine GPS. I was
  curious
  if, in your opinion, it could be possible to constantly show  the
  distance
  between me and the nearest point on the coast line. This would be
  important because in my country (and i guess everywhere) there are rules
  about the little boats distances from the coast and I cannot overcome 3
  nautical miles.
 
  I know it should be possible to show the distances between my present
  position and any given point, but what about something always displaying
  the distances between my position and the nearest point on the coast?
 
  is there maybe any more in-topic forum where i can ask this?
 
  Thank you very much for any answer!
  bye! :)
 

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Re: How to fix a broken AUX button ?

2009-06-25 Thread Joseph Reeves
Great, thanks Phillippe for letting us know!

Hope you're enjoying your button :)

Cheers, Joseph




2009/6/24 Philippe Lhardy philippelha...@chez.com:
 2009/6/7 Daniel Willmann dan...@totalueberwachung.de:
 Hey,

 On Sun, 7 Jun 2009 15:42:07 +0200
 Philippe Lhardy philippelha...@chez.com wrote:

 2009/5/26 Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com:
  Hi Philippe,
 
  Sorry I can't help you with your problem, but I was just replying to
  say that I dropped mine the other day and the AUX button stopped
  working... Keep us informed of any developments with yours.
 


 I got my openmoko back debuzzed and with a new AUX button working !
 Daniel Willmann fixed both quickly. Most of wating time was shipment travel
 france-germany back and forth.
 He replaced it with one that he got on another spare phone, seems it
 was not an easy task.
 Now we know that this is doable :-)

 Thanks !

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Re: a new keyboard - discuss and critique

2009-06-03 Thread Joseph Reeves
 There is lots of space wasted. Why hasn't he put the key lines together
 inverted to each other?

I think the fact that it's not like you describe the whole idea of the design ;)

Go to the page on El Reg and try and type your name by pushing your
monitor. It's stupid, yes, but it gives you an idea of how it would
work. It seems, without any feedback, to be very nice. The fact that
all the triangles are orientated the same way means you get a huge
area of triangular free space around each key, that lets you mash at
them without accidentally hitting another.

I don't think it's about training your hands as others have said, it's
about providing a key with a lot of free space around it - effectively
you've made the key bigger (because you can hit any are around it and
sort of hit the right one without mis-hitting another) whilst
keeping the overall size very small.

Its genius is its simplicity.

Joseph




2009/6/3 neove...@freerunner spa...@ymail.com:

 There is lots of space wasted. Why hasn't he put the key lines together
 inverted to each other?



 Risto H. Kurppa wrote:

 On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 apparently, triangular buttons produce less errors.

 http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/06/02/crocodile_keyboard/

 i'm not totally convinced, but it would be worth a go, i think

 now, is it possible to coerce raster's keyboard into using anything
 other than square keys?

 Looks interesting!


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Re: Tangogps or navit with prepackaged Europe map

2009-05-28 Thread Joseph Reeves
 links at osm where others have put together more or less regularyl updated
 binary map files of several regions of the world.

That's made me think - we (as in the community) could provide packages
via opkg.org that provided regular updates for various countries /
regions / zoom levels. Would be very easy to do, just make sure that
someone has up to date tiles (OSMupdater, for example) and package
them up to be extracted to /media/card/maps

It's extra work for one person, and extra load on opkg.org, but for us
lazy people out there, it'd be great. I might even try it out with a
South England example myself.

Cheers, Joseph



2009/5/28 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de:
 don't know about any images. but with a map for all of europe 2gb is
 pretty little.
 it certainly won't work with tangogps -- once i tried to get all of
 germany in a usable resolution for tangogps and it exceed by far 2gb.
 so, your best bet would be navit with its binary maps which are much
 smaller for the same are covered.

 ho to fetch a map for a selected area is described in the navit wiki (in
 short: wget an url with the coordinates), and there are even a lot of
 links at osm where others have put together more or less regularyl updated
 binary map files of several regions of the world.

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Re: [omgps] important updates

2009-05-27 Thread Joseph Reeves
Very nice, thanks!

I'm going to have to practice using the little buttons, but otherwise
I've got no complaints. Will try producing a gpx trace of my drive
home (now that I've discovered my Nokia can produce gpx traces it's
breathed a bit of life into my otherwise unloved N96).

Cheers, Joseph



2009/5/26 mqy meng.qing...@gmail.com:

 Although there is a thread about omgps, I think I'd list the important things
 here.
 Those who have installed previous version(s) are recommend to do a update.

 download url:
 http://omgps.googlecode.com/files/omgps_0.1_armv4t-20090527-1.ipk

 Important updates since first release on 2009-05-21:
 ---

 1. bugfix: keep cursor in view does not always behave as expected.
 2. bugfix: SIGSEGV on stopping track. see
 http://code.google.com/p/omgps/issues/detail?id=2
 3. bugfix: Full screen mode, popup message dialogs does not show on above
 -- deadlock screen.
 4. defect: speed unit, add mph and km/h. see
 http://code.google.com/p/omgps/issues/detail?id=1
 5. new feature: sky map to show satellite positions.

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Re: [SHR] create opkg-packages

2009-05-27 Thread Joseph Reeves
I've not followed these instructions, but they turned up after a quick google:

http://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=IPKG_Howto

ipkg-build is what I use - all works without any drama.

Cheers, Joseph



2009/5/27 Vinzenz Hersche hers...@puzzle.ch:
 hello there,

 i want to create a opkg-package, but i didn't found ipkg-utils on shr, also
 not on ubuntu.

 so i tried to create this otherwhise, with the same structure, but if i look
 into another opk-package, the files in the tar.gz control are childfolders of
 ., mine isn't (folder .  does already exist)

 and if i save the top-archive as .deb-file, it seems to work, but if i
 renamed it to ipk/opk, it doesn't work (with ark). the other packages does
 work normal with ark.

 so where i became the ipkg-utils? ftp-server with the files seems also to be
 down :/

 greets

 ps: just by the way, if someone knows this; is there any library with e-mail-
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Re: [SHR] create opkg-packages

2009-05-27 Thread Joseph Reeves
You should be able to get it from the openmoko tool chain (although I
haven't looked at it for a while). If not, I've attached my (possibly
old) copy to this email.

Hope it helps with the packaging,

Joseph



2009/5/27 Vinzenz Hersche hers...@puzzle.ch:
 yes, i belive that this works without great problems.. but my problem is
 another one..

 i couldn't open ftp://ftp.handhelds.org/packages/ipkg-utils (tried with 
 firefox
  konqueror), and all instructions said, it must be downloaded there.. i also
 couldn't install the files with apt-get install ipkg-utils (on ubuntu) or opkg
 install ipkg-utils (on the moko), so i haven't the programm..

 the other try was by hand (think, it's just a gzip..), but this also wasn't
 work..

 so had someone a idea where the ipkg-util-files are? or is the problem with 
 the
 handhelds.org-server just mine?

 Am Mittwoch, 27. Mai 2009 18.37:23 schrieb Joseph Reeves:
 I've not followed these instructions, but they turned up after a quick
 google:

 http://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=IPKG_Howto

 ipkg-build is what I use - all works without any drama.

 Cheers, Joseph

 2009/5/27 Vinzenz Hersche hers...@puzzle.ch:
  hello there,
 
  i want to create a opkg-package, but i didn't found ipkg-utils on shr,
  also not on ubuntu.
 
  so i tried to create this otherwhise, with the same structure, but if i
  look into another opk-package, the files in the tar.gz control are
  childfolders of ., mine isn't (folder .  does already exist)
 
  and if i save the top-archive as .deb-file, it seems to work, but if i
  renamed it to ipk/opk, it doesn't work (with ark). the other packages
  does work normal with ark.
 
  so where i became the ipkg-utils? ftp-server with the files seems also to
  be down :/
 
  greets
 
  ps: just by the way, if someone knows this; is there any library with
  e-mail- support for vala? :)
 
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Re: How to fix a broken AUX button ?

2009-05-25 Thread Joseph Reeves
Hi Philippe,

Sorry I can't help you with your problem, but I was just replying to
say that I dropped mine the other day and the AUX button stopped
working... Keep us informed of any developments with yours.

Cheers, Joseph



2009/5/25 Philippe Lhardy philippelha...@chez.com:
 Hi,

 I am looking for a way to fix my Neo FreeRunner that felt badly on the floor.
 AUX button was not soldered anymore and i definitely broke the button
 by trying to glue it.
 soldering is too small for me and i don't have right piece to fix it
 and i am not good at that stuff either.
 I am ready to invest 40 euros ( if it less, then its for you. ) to get
 that button working again (ie getting piece + soldering done ).
 I am in french riviera area.
 I was wondering if it could be done together with a debuzzing session
 ( if needed ).

 P. Lhardy

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Re: opkg: fork failed segmentation fault

2009-05-19 Thread Joseph Reeves
Hi Pander,

Is this related to this known (old) bug:

https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2271

If so:

pkill paroli  pkill frameworkd
opkg update  opkg upgrade

fixes it.

Cheers, Joseph




2009/5/19 Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net:
 Hi,

 I'm running on testing distro an opkg upgrade via wifi and get this at
 the end:

  opkg: fork failed
  Segmentation fault

 What is going on and how to fix this.

 Thanks,

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Re: New Life in Openmoko Phones

2009-05-19 Thread Joseph Reeves
The wiki says:

#  Remove one accelerometer and connect both interrupts of the remaining one

Is connecting both interrupts of the remaining one an expected
benefit? Do both current accelerometers only have one interrupt
connected? What does that even mean?

Cheers, Joseph




2009/5/19 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org:
 On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:52:22AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
 That still doesn't explain why removing one of the two accelerometers is
 a good idea.  What is the benefit?  Why not remove them both?
 Is it that all the programs that use the accelerometers (as of now) only
 use one of the two?

 I only use one for omnewrotate because that's all I need to infer the
 position in order to call xrandr for rotating the screen accordingly.

 There are possible uses for two, the least of which are redundancy and
 double checking.

 Since it was decided to remove it, there must have been some kind of
 expected benefit.

 I'm curious about the expected benefits as well. But the wiki only states
 facts and not the reasoning behind them...

 Rui

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Re: [all] usb headset connector?

2009-05-17 Thread Joseph Reeves
You can see the extra pins in the product image in that first link you provide.

Joseph



2009/5/17 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de:
 ok, if i understand correctly, all of _these_ adapters[1] work by using
 additional pins not specified in the usb standard, ie not by some driver
 magic that sends sound via the standard pins, right?

 [1] not just the cingular one, but also
 http://www.amazon.com/3-5mm-Stereo-Adapter-T-Mobile-Diamond/dp/B0011WDLES/ref=pd_sbs_a_2_img/184-2544850-3162110
 or
 http://www.amazon.com/OEM-Converter-Cingular-T-Mobile-Cavalier/dp/B001RXTDP2/ref=pd_cp_e_1_img/184-2544850-3162110?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DERpf_rd_s=center-41pf_rd_r=03ZX1CK3AZE3RG0W2AVJpf_rd_t=201pf_rd_p=413863501pf_rd_i=B000UHY6XU

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Re: [all] usb headset connector?

2009-05-15 Thread Joseph Reeves
Unless it's not a soundcard at all, but is just a simple adapter.

I.e. the phone manufacturer tweaks the usb port a little to include
the audio lines  in the same plug (although obviously not at the same
time - there must be some switching mechanism to go between USB mode
and headset mode) and then sells the adapter.

That's how I'd do it; must be more profitable than making a tiny USB
soundcard and selling it for $6.99

Cheers, Joseph





2009/5/15 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com:
 2009/5/15 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de:
 i remember having asked that a long time ago, but here goes again:
 is there any way/ work going on to make one of those
 usb-to-headset-connectors working, most likely with a kernel module?

 it's effectively a simple usb soundcard, isn't it? so long as it's
 based on a common enough audio chipset, there's no reason why it won't
 work out of the box, shouldn't it?

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Re: [2.6.28+ kernel] usb host/device mode switcher

2009-05-14 Thread Joseph Reeves
I should update mine to work:

http://www.opkg.org/package_40.html

But if you can use vim you can opkg install it then edit
/usr/bin/usb.sh as per the instructions on the opkg.org page.

If I can find two minutes at some point I'll test / re-package and update.

Cheers, Joseph




2009/5/14 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com:
 2009/5/10 Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.com:
 On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 02:39, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote:
 where are you finding the revision you quoted?

 In shr-unstable, as it was said before ;)

 right, after going round the houses, this module is apparently not in
 -testing

 so, back to the original question:
 are there any apps written to work with new kernels (.29), which will
 switch the usb port between host and device? afaics, the apps on
 opkg.org are all written to the old /sys layout and shortom has not
 been updated recently

 or, is anybody successfully using either of these apps on a recent kernel?

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Re: [neovento 5] applications!

2009-05-13 Thread Joseph Reeves
try:

ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200/24

Joseph




2009/5/13 Tony Berth tonybe...@googlemail.com:
 when I type (as root!) 'ip addr add 192.168.0.200/24 dev usb0', I get:

 bash: ip: command not found

 Thanks

 Tony

 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:24 PM, neovento schumi_8_2...@gmx.de wrote:

 Ok, I do it like that:

 iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24
 sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1
 ip addr add 192.168.0.200/24 dev usb0
 ifconfig usb0 up
 ssh r...@192.168.0.202



 Tony Berth wrote:
 
  I changed that to 192.168.0.0 but still the same problem!
 
  When I plug FR in, the console displays the following:
 
  usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
  usb 1-1: config 2 interface 1 has no altsetting 0
  usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 2 choices
  eth1: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-:00:1d.0-1, CDC Ethernet Device,
  00:1f:11:01:53:86
  usbcore: registered new driver cdc_ether
 
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Re: [neovento 5] applications!

2009-05-13 Thread Joseph Reeves
Sorry, I mistook what you were trying to do (serves me right for
skim-reading the list). The error is pretty telling, however; you
don't have USB0. Once you get that back you can add a root as per
Arne's suggestions.

Cheers and apologies,

Joseph




2009/5/13 Tony Berth tonybe...@googlemail.com:
 get then the following:

 SIOCSIFNETMASK: No such device
 SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
 usb0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device

 Thanks

 Tony

 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 try:

 ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200/24

 Joseph




 2009/5/13 Tony Berth tonybe...@googlemail.com:
  when I type (as root!) 'ip addr add 192.168.0.200/24 dev usb0', I get:
 
  bash: ip: command not found
 
  Thanks
 
  Tony
 
  On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:24 PM, neovento schumi_8_2...@gmx.de wrote:
 
  Ok, I do it like that:
 
  iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24
  sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1
  ip addr add 192.168.0.200/24 dev usb0
  ifconfig usb0 up
  ssh r...@192.168.0.202
 
 
 
  Tony Berth wrote:
  
   I changed that to 192.168.0.0 but still the same problem!
  
   When I plug FR in, the console displays the following:
  
   usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
   usb 1-1: config 2 interface 1 has no altsetting 0
   usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 2 choices
   eth1: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-:00:1d.0-1, CDC Ethernet
   Device,
   00:1f:11:01:53:86
   usbcore: registered new driver cdc_ether
  
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Re: Koolu.com?

2009-05-13 Thread Joseph Reeves
Plenty of other ways to get in touch, although I imagine they're aware
already. From the whois records:

Domain ID:D137784362-LROR
Domain Name:KOOLU.ORG
Created On:20-Jan-2007 17:00:14 UTC
Last Updated On:29-Dec-2008 13:12:03 UTC
Expiration Date:20-Jan-2011 17:00:14 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:GoDaddy.com, Inc. (R91-LROR)
Status:CLIENT DELETE PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT RENEW PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:GODA-027078548
Registrant Name:Jon Hall
Registrant Organization:Koolu
Registrant Street1:80 Amherst St.
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:AMHERST
Registrant State/Province:New Hampshire
Registrant Postal Code:03031
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.6036724557
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:mad...@li.org

Cheers, Joseph



2009/5/13 Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be:
 On Wed, 13 May 2009 03:02:47 -0500
 Rene Horn the.rh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yeah, I already knew that.  I'm just wondering if anyone knows what's
 happened?

 Did they lose the domain?  whois records show Network Solutions as
 owning the domain.

 host -t ns koolu.com
 koolu.com name server ns5.mydyndns.org.
 koolu.com name server ns1.mydyndns.org.
 koolu.com name server ns2.mydyndns.org.
 koolu.com name server ns3.mydyndns.org.
 koolu.com name server ns4.mydyndns.org.

 So koolu.com is hosted on dyndns ... and that one gives weird answers:

 nslookup koolu.com ns3.mydyndns.org.
 Server:         ns3.mydyndns.org.
 Address:        208.78.69.76#53

 *** Can't find koolu.com: No answer

 nslookup www.koolu.com ns3.mydyndns.org.
 Server:         ns3.mydyndns.org.
 Address:        208.78.69.76#53

 ** server can't find www.koolu.com: NXDOMAIN


 So, my guess is that it didn't get refreshed enough at dyndns. What a
 way to promote a company though ...
 koolu.org is still up, if you want the files.
 But if koolu.com doesn't exist, sending mail to blahb...@koolu.com
 won't get you anywhere as well ...

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Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS

2009-05-07 Thread Joseph Reeves
You may have been blacklisted from Google's servers - downloading just
the tiles is frowned upon in Mountain View and they block IPs that do
so. You're _supposed_ to access Google Maps only through the web API.

Joseph



2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com:
 Dear List,

 How can I use Google Map on tangoGPS.

 I select Google Map repository, but I can't download Google map?

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Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS

2009-05-07 Thread Joseph Reeves
I suppose you'll have to find a way to keep changing your IP address,
or use a different map provider. If you really don't want to use
OpenStreetMap data, gvSIG Mobile displays data from Microsoft Live
Maps:

http://gvsigmobileonopenmoko.wordpress.com/
http://www.opkg.org/package_162.html

Cheers, Joseph



2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com:
 On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 14:10 +0100, Joseph Reeves wrote:
 You may have been blacklisted from Google's servers

 Yes, when I change the ip, it can download. But it'll be soon
 blacklisted again.

 So how can I download google map with tangoGPS?


 - downloading just
 the tiles is frowned upon in Mountain View and they block IPs that do
 so. You're _supposed_ to access Google Maps only through the web API.

 Joseph



 2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com:
  Dear List,
 
  How can I use Google Map on tangoGPS.
 
  I select Google Map repository, but I can't download Google map?
 
  Is there any thing that I should change?
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Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS

2009-05-07 Thread Joseph Reeves
I've found that it's very enjoyable to travel somewhere not on OSM and
add it later ;-) SHR + TangoGPS seems stable enough, and kind enough
on the battery, to let me walk around for a whole day (or rather, walk
as much as I'd want to in a day) and log everywhere I go.

I guess that doesn't really help you with your current problem,
however, but hopefully you'll work something out.

Cheers, Joseph




2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com:
 On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 17:04 +0200, Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio wrote:
 Hi. You can also use the Yahoo imagery (

 Yahoo imagery http://www.opengeodata.org/?p=120

 It seems ok, but a little bit faint on my area.

 Thanks. downlading :)


 both on tango and gvSIG Mobile) as an alternative to Google. For urban
 areas, the Yahoo imagery is very nice too. What is your area of
 interest?

 When I'm city. OpenStreetMap is quite OK, although most of roads are NOT
 covered. but it's OK.

 Well, I'm going to travel next week. And I found that there is nothing
 with OSM data (mountain area). And Google map looks fine :)

 So I hope I can download some maps before I travel :)





 Regards,
 Juan Lucas




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                 Asunto: Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS


                 I suppose you'll have to find a way to keep changing
                 your IP address,
                 or use a different map provider. If you really don't
                 want to use
                 OpenStreetMap data, gvSIG Mobile displays data from
                 Microsoft Live
                 Maps:

                 http://gvsigmobileonopenmoko.wordpress.com/
                 http://www.opkg.org/package_162.html

                 Cheers, Joseph



                 2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com:
                  On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 14:10 +0100, Joseph Reeves
                 wrote:
                  You may have been blacklisted from Google's servers
                 
                  Yes, when I change the ip, it can download. But
                 it'll be soon
                  blacklisted again.
                 
                  So how can I download google map with tangoGPS?
                 
                 
                  - downloading just
                  the tiles is frowned upon in Mountain View and they
                 block IPs that do
                  so. You're _supposed_ to access Google Maps only
                 through the web API.
                 
                  Joseph
                 
                 
                 
                  2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com:
                   Dear List,
                  
                   How can I use Google Map on tangoGPS.
                  
                   I select Google Map repository, but I can't
                 download Google map?
                  
                   Is there any thing that I should change?
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Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS

2009-05-07 Thread Joseph Reeves
Indeed:

http://www.tangogps.org/gps/articles/13-Howto-contribute-to-OpenStreetMap.html

Although I logged my tracks in TangoGPS, then converted them to GPX
files using Prune:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/prune-gps/

Before uploading to OSM. Works like a charm.

Cheers,

Joseph



2009/5/7 Adam Jimerson vend...@gmail.com:


 On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com wrote:

 Well, I'm going to travel next week. And I found that there is nothing
 with OSM data (mountain area). And Google map looks fine :)

 So I hope I can download some maps before I travel :)

 I don't get a chance to play with TangoGPS much but if I remember correctly
 it supports logging so OSM can be improved, maybe someone with
 more knowledge in this matter can provide more details.

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Re: Download Link OM 2007 ?

2009-05-06 Thread Joseph Reeves
Could you use DFU-util to get OM2007.2 off one of your phones?

Seems broken at the moment, however: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/676

Joseph



2009/5/6 David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com:
 I only have found
  http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/obsolete-images/Om2007.11/images/neo1973/
 but seems is only for gta01, can any body confirm this?

 2009/5/6 Christoph Pulster openm...@pulster.de:
 Hi,

 where can I find OM 2007 distribution to download ?
 OM 2007 = the system units are shipped from factory.
 AFAIK this version is not available, if so, why ?

 Thanks,
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Re: copy a file from smartphone to pc

2009-05-05 Thread Joseph Reeves
You don't say what OS you're running on your PC, but assuming it's
something half-modern and Linux based, open a file browser (I use
nautilus) and type in the address bar:

sftp://r...@[ip address of phone]

[ip address of phone] is usually 192.168.0.202

Cheers, Joseph



2009/5/5 Anas Alzouhbi anas@gmail.com:
 Hello!
 I want to transfer a file from my smartphone to the pc, for exemple
 the file name is toto4 and the username of my pc is elzouebi
 I runned this command
 scp toto4 elzou...@192.168.0.200 , it created a file called
 elzou...@192.168.0.200 on the smartphone :(
 also I runned this command
 scp totot4 elzou...@192.168.0.200:sender, sender is a folder on my pc
 I obtained this error messaj
 WARNING: Ignoring unknown argument '-x'
 WARNING: Ignoring unknown argument '-oForwardAgent no'
 WARNING: Ignoring unknown argument '-oPermitLocalCommand no'
 WARNING: Ignoring unknown argument '-oClearAllForwardings yes'
 /usr/bin/dbclient: exited: Error connecting: Connection refused
 lost connection

 what should I do, to copy a file from the smarphone to the pc

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Re: PCB and schematic of openmoko

2009-04-22 Thread Joseph Reeves
http://downloads.openmoko.org/developer/schematics/GTA02/

?

Cheers, Joseph



2009/4/22 Anas Alzouhbi anas@gmail.com:
 Hello!
 I need the schematic and the pcb of my smarthphone openmoko GTA02,
 this link isn't available:
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/developer/schematics/GTA02/Schematics_Freerunner/GTA02_A5-7cumulative_public_RC0.pdf

 I need to know the locations of accelerometers on the board, and the
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Re: bluetooth spam

2009-04-22 Thread Joseph Reeves
Advertisers use it a lot. I've also spoken to someone who was using
the spamming service for a community heritage project; you walked
around and had details of the area you're in sent to your phone.

It's just a case of needing a little imagination ;)



2009/4/22 The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com:
 Spam a file? Send it to everyone in range? Why?

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Re: test QtEI

2009-04-18 Thread Joseph Reeves
What OS are you using? These codes work fine for me (OM2009  Vodafone UK SIM).

Cheers, Joseph



2009/4/18 Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com:
 My Phone operator (Wind Italy) have some numbers (ie: *123#,*123*3#)
 to check various things (credit, sms left and so on).
 After you make a call, should appear a sort of advice with the data
 you requested. This advice appears afetr I make a call (in this case,
 Wind update me about my credit), but does not appear if I call the
 specific numbers.
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OpenBSD

2009-04-18 Thread Joseph Reeves
Excuse me if I missed some previous announcement, but I've just read
that OpenBSD 4.5, available May 1st, will support ARM based
Openmoko:

http://www.openbsd.org/45.html

Looks interesting...

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Re: [om2009] - opkg update opkg upgrade fork failed

2009-04-17 Thread Joseph Reeves
I've not seen that one. Have a search and report if it's new ;)

https://docs.openmoko.org/trac

Cheers, Joseph



2009/4/17 blokkie blok...@h0m3.be:
 Joseph Reeves schreef:
 Known bug:

 https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2271

 pkill paroli  pkill frameworkd
 opkg update  opkg upgrade

 fixes it.

 Joseph



 Great !  thx ,

 When I first booted it had another error about not beeing able to start
 namend  or something . Is that also a known bug ?


 Cheerio's ,
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Re: [om2009] - opkg update opkg upgrade fork failed

2009-04-17 Thread Joseph Reeves
Known bug:

https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2271

pkill paroli  pkill frameworkd
opkg update  opkg upgrade

fixes it.

Joseph



2009/4/17 blokkie blok...@h0m3.be:
 Greetings earthlings

 Some errors I collected from  upgrading the om2009  testing image ,
 maybe it's usefull for later images ?



 Error :

 Upgrading paroli on root from
 0.2.1+gitr91+ba44a8738f444f6ca3ff42a4173d9178e4202b04-r9 to
 0.2.1+gitr94+8800d8d645b21499259e6a2d0fb4a45562a8f9bd-r11...
 Downloading
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/armv4t/paroli_0.2.1+gitr94+8800d8d645b21499259e6a2d0fb4a45562a8f9bd-r11_armv4t.ipk
 opkg: fork failed
 Segmentation fault



 Fixed by doing :
 r...@om-gta02:~# opkg upgrade paroli
 Upgrading paroli on root from
 0.2.1+gitr91+ba44a8738f444f6ca3ff42a4173d9178e4202b04-r9 to
 0.2.1+gitr94+8800d8d645b21499259e6a2d0fb4a45562a8f9bd-r11...
 Downloading
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/armv4t/paroli_0.2.1+gitr94+8800d8d645b21499259e6a2d0fb4a45562a8f9bd-r11_armv4t.ipk
    Configuration file '/etc/freesmartphone/oevents/paroli_rules.yaml'
    == File on system created by you or by a script.
    == File also in package provided by package maintainer.
       What would you like to do about it ?  Your options are:
        Y or I  : install the package maintainer's version
        N or O  : keep your currently-installed version
          D     : show the differences between the versions (if diff is
 installed)
     The default action is to keep your current version.
    *** paroli_rules.yaml (Y/I/N/O/D) [default=N] ?D




 Looks like it cannot trap the questions .



 Other errors when upgrading :
 Collected errors:
  * Package libelementary-themes wants to install file
 /usr/share/elementary/themes/default.edj
        But that file is already provided by package  * paroli
  * Package paroli-theme wants to install file
 /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/illume.edj
        But that file is already provided by package  * e-wm-theme-illume
  * Package paroli-theme wants to install file
 /usr/share/enlightenment/data/config/illume/module.illume.cfg
        But that file is already provided by package  * e-wm-config-illume
  * Package paroli-theme wants to install file
 /usr/share/enlightenment/data/config/illume/e.cfg
        But that file is already provided by package  * e-wm-config-illume
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Re: sunlight readable LCD

2009-04-15 Thread Joseph Reeves
My thoughts exactly Yorick.

I'd be very interested in this (I guess I should be! ;-) at the sort
of prices Marcus was talking about.

What's the technical investment required for this? I guess I should go
google psp screen linux...

Cheers, Joseph



2009/4/15 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com:
 I'm not actually interested,
 but while you are modding: you could maybe also try to get a bigger
 battery in there?
 or two batteries in parallel?
 might be usefull for longer trips...

 y

 On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Marcus Bauer marcus.ba...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello list,

 Joseph Reeves wrote on his blog about a bicycle app for the Neo [1].

 I have always wanted to add cycling / sports functions to tangoGPS but
 as the LCD is mostly unreadable in sunlight I felt there is little use.
 After trying it a couple of times on my bike I soon started to leave
 the Neo at home.

 So I wonder about three things for better outdoor use:

 1) How many of you would be interested in the following hardware
 mods:
  * sunlight readable LCD
  * bigger LCD 3,5+
  * new ruggedized case or rubber shell (including a mean to nicely fix
 in on a bike?)
  * waterproof (substaintially more costs)

 2) How much money would you spend on it? To give you an idea: the PSP
 display with touchscreen can be bought on ebay for ~25$. A case may be
 ~20-30$ for volumes of 100+.

 3) Last question: are there hardware people interested in
 this?

 Please reply here on list with your interest!

 Marcus

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Re: [om2009]

2009-04-15 Thread Joseph Reeves
r...@om-gta02:~# export DISPLAY=:0.0  tangogps

works, although it's not too useful if you go outside without your
laptop plugged into the phone ;)

Joseph



2009/4/15 Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz:
thanks for reporting your enthusiasm :D
Is there in 2009.1 the possibility to switch from Paroli to another
application (like TangoGPS) using Illume menu?

 this is at this point not possible.

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Re: [om2009] - send SMS GUI logic

2009-04-15 Thread Joseph Reeves
My Nokia N96 wants me to select the recipients before I write the
message, and that's a phone that people seem to like...

After all, I think to myself I'll send something to François, rather
than I want to say something, but who shall I send it to?

;-)



2009/4/15 François TOURDE fr...@tourde.org:
 Le 14349ième jour après Epoch,
 blok...@h0m3.be écrivait:

 first tipe what you want to send , then to who  seems more logical .

 I agree with this, even if I don't understand why. I can't find any good
 reason to use this order :)

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gvSIG Mobile 0.1.2

2009-04-06 Thread Joseph Reeves
Dear all,

I've just packaged up gvSIG Mobile for Openmoko 0.1.2:

http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/gvsig_mobile_0_1_2

http://www.opkg.org/package_162.html

It contains various updates and improvements, even a choice of GUI
language. The full (?) list of changes is on my blog. Massive thanks
as ever to Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio for all his hard work making
this great app and to the brave translators who have enabled us to
provide it in their language of choice.

Cheers, Joseph

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Re: Slashdotted

2009-04-06 Thread Joseph Reeves
  Werner and I are discussing various possibilities. I rule nothing out.

Steve, at the OpenExpo Sean refered to the Dash navigator as a
dashtraction from the serious business of Openmoko. How will Plan
B (which is presumably not a distraction but a means of improving ROI
for FIC) avoid becoming thought of as Dash2?

Thanks for your emails on the subject so far,

Joseph



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 Gerald A wrote:
 Hi all,
 I originally wrote Lothar in private, and asked for his permission to repost
 to the list. There have been a few replies in the meantime, but there were
 some good points here.

 Now, I'm not a hardware guy, so take my input with a grain of salt, but I
 have been watching the project for a while, and as a software person I hope
 we can make it work.

 Lothar -- new comments are inline.

 On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Lothar Behrens lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de
 wrote:


 On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Lothar Behrens 
 lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de wrote:

 Ok I cannot buy expensive equipment to test hardware that I may have
 developed, but I virtually could
 develop hardware. But many developers at one subject could spend money for
 a rent to let one of the
 team do outstanding tests.

 Isn't it possible to also develop hardware collaboratively?


 I have to say -- at this point, I don't think so. It's not that the concept
 is impossible, or as you mention above, that testing can't be done. But
 based on what OM and FIC before them have reported, it would be very hard.

 Yes, it would be hard, but FIC and OM have made a great job. We have a
 fully functioning phone, but we couldn't easy create our own prototypes to
 play with. Good ideas are published as the robotics project. If having a
 really open schematics and even the board design. one could change the
 formfactor and add his/her needed stuff to play with. If you have to worry
 about how to enter a completely new schematics from the PDF, the fence is
 higher to think about jumping over and just DO it.


 Steve has commented a bit about this, as far as a packaging and final
 production are concerned. There might be a possibility to build modular
 kits so different hardware (and software) combos could be tried out, but
 translating that into a widget that can be sold as a phone is also a
 consideration. We could put together an awesome phone as a kit that is about
 the size of a CD drive, but then find out that some parts we used aren't
 available in quantities or timelines that make sense to produce a phone. The
 concept is awesome, but I'm not sure it can feed into a real product -- but
 it's something to think about.

  Werner and I are discussing various possibilities. I rule nothing out.




 Principally, this is due to a moving target. Since everything is obsolete
 in a few months, the shelf life of products in the embedded space is very
 small. The next big hurdle is in getting specs. OM/FIC were producing
 thousands of devices and possibly more, so had better quantities then a
 hobby group might muster -- and still had poor access to hardware specs,
 when they got them. Now, of course, some of their decisions might have been
 practical too (we can get 1000 more closed pieces from company X, while we
 can only get ~100 more open pieces from company Y), we don't know.

 Yes, the technique is moving forward fast - for the real phone, not for a
 GSM module for sample :-)

 Today I have searched for a GSM module and indeed found one with a complete
 ARM based Linux stack. It would be much too expensive, but when having only
 the next planned GSM module that will appear in the phone, one could test it
 on a standard pc. Or even participate in GSM related development only.


 I love the idea of being able to mock up hardware, as it lets the software
 move forward too. But if our test platform can't be translated into a
 suitable form factor, it might be a waste.
 YUP. Just to review the GTA03. At one stage the WIFI and GPS had to be
 removed because it didnt fit in the case. If thin is in, then using
 a module is out, for the most part. How thin is thin? Typical marketing
 answer would be thinner than the iPhone but obviously some fat phones ship


 I had an idea about my car radio. The idea came because I use my Neo to
 transmit music over bluetooth, then over a FM transmitter to the radio. This
 is bad quality.
 There are really much entusiasts building their own carPC in double DIN
 factor or similar - even small PC barebones. Why not equip it with a GSM
 module to become a real handsfree carPC + phone. They will benefit from such
 a module and propably participate in development.
  On of our early partners, in fact, was designing such a carPC and
 wanted to use FR as a dev platform. Alas they demanded a different
 processor ( Intel) so that deal didnt go through.

 Open the development by also selling parts of a phone for the hobby
 electronics would increase the audience and the feedback.
 I don't know how 

Re: packaging the application

2009-04-03 Thread Joseph Reeves
What's the output from:

om-make-ipkg openmoko-sample2

?



2009/4/3 Anas Alzouhbi anas@gmail.com:
 I arrived in the toolchain ducument until :Packaging your application
 I run this command
 om-make-ipkg openmoko-sample2
 it showed: usage: om-make-ipkg [app_dir_name] [ipkg_control_file]
 but the problem is when I run this command
 scp openmoko-sample2_0.1_armv4t.ipk r...@192.168.0.202:
 it shows this error:
 openmoko-sample2_0.1_armv4t.ipk: No such file or directory
 what I have to do??

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Re: packaging the application

2009-04-03 Thread Joseph Reeves
Ok, so I think I see what you're saying. You get:

y...@your-machine:~$om-make-ipkg openmoko-sample2
usage: om-make-ipkg [app_dir_name] [ipkg_control_file]

So om-make-ipkg is complaining that you haven't given it the correct
parameters. It's telling you what it expects. What directory are you
running it from? Does that directory contain openmoko-sample2/ ?

Posting the entire terminal, not just the output of some commands,
would make this much easier to read.

Cheers, Joseph



2009/4/3 Anas Alzouhbi anas@gmail.com:
 thank you
 so what do you think about the problem that I have,
 what could the reason that the output ofom-make-ipkg openmoko-sample2
 is usage: om-make-ipkg [app_dir_name] [ipkg_control_file]


 On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com wrote:
 Last time I did it I got:

 jos...@joseph-work:~/mtr-0.73$ cd ~
 jos...@joseph-work:~$ om-make-ipkg mtr-0.73
 make: Entering directory `/home/joseph/mtr-0.73'
 Making install in img
 make[1]: Entering directory `/home/joseph/mtr-0.73/img'
 make[2]: Entering directory `/home/joseph/mtr-0.73/img'
 make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'.
 make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'.
 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/joseph/mtr-0.73/img'
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/joseph/mtr-0.73/img'
 make[1]: Entering directory `/home/joseph/mtr-0.73'
 make[2]: Entering directory `/home/joseph/mtr-0.73'
 test -z /usr/sbin || /bin/mkdir -p /tmp/mtr-0.73-ipkg-tmp/usr/sbin
 /usr/bin/install -c 'mtr' '/tmp/mtr-0.73-ipkg-tmp/usr/sbin/mtr'
 make install-exec-hook
 make[3]: Entering directory `/home/joseph/mtr-0.73'
 chmod u+s /tmp/mtr-0.73-ipkg-tmp/usr/sbin/mtr
 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/joseph/mtr-0.73'
 test -z /usr/share/man/man8 || /bin/mkdir -p
 /tmp/mtr-0.73-ipkg-tmp/usr/share/man/man8
 /usr/bin/install -c -m 644 './mtr.8'
 '/tmp/mtr-0.73-ipkg-tmp/usr/share/man/man8/mtr.8'
 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/joseph/mtr-0.73'
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/joseph/mtr-0.73'
 make: Leaving directory `/home/joseph/mtr-0.73'
 Packaged contents of /tmp/mtr-0.73-ipkg-tmp into
 /home/joseph/mtr-0.73_0.1_armv4t.ipk
 jos...@joseph-work:~$

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$299 ESC San Jose limited time Special! ?

2009-04-01 Thread Joseph Reeves
Dear all,

I've not seen any mention of this on the lists, but it all looks very cheap!

http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/neo-freerunner

# GSM 850 ( Promotion, Extras: pouch and headset x 1) $299.00 USD
# GSM 900-10 Pack $2,690.00 USD
# GSM 850-10 Pack $2,690.00 USD

Not an April Fools thing is it?

Cheers, Joseph

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Re: $299 ESC San Jose limited time Special! ?

2009-04-01 Thread Joseph Reeves
That would make sense...

After a bit of googling for belgium openmoko (a perfectly normal
search term, honest...) I found this reseller that I'd never seen
before:

https://kd85.com/openmoko.html

Seems to have taken delivery of 180/200:

http://openmoko.kd85.com/images/

and is selling them on at a very good price, has been doing so since
November last year. Openmoko stock clearance?

Cheers, Joseph



2009/4/1 Cédric Berger cedric.berge...@gmail.com:
 On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 16:00, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear all,

 I've not seen any mention of this on the lists, but it all looks very cheap!

 http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/neo-freerunner

 # GSM 850 ( Promotion, Extras: pouch and headset x 1) $299.00 USD
 # GSM 900-10 Pack $2,690.00 USD
 # GSM 850-10 Pack $2,690.00 USD

 Not an April Fools thing is it?

 This must be in-stock phones, and as next ones (GTA2 A7) should have
 some buzz fix already done at factory, these old ones will loose
 value I would say...

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Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko

2009-03-18 Thread Joseph Reeves
hi Bill,

Thanks for the feedback; 0.2 will include, amongst other exciting new
features, libswt3.4-gtk-jni as an explicit dependency.

Cheers, Joseph



2009/3/17 William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au:
 I have the same on shr-testing - wasnt installed by default with the
 other packages so should be a dependency somewhere.

 BillK

 On Tue, 2009-03-17 at 13:44 +, Joseph Reeves wrote:
 Hi Yorick,

 Glad you got it to work! libswt3.4-gtk-jni is a dependency of
 libswt3.4-gtk-java, so that would get understandably upset without it.
 We don't specify that you must have ibswt3.4-gtk-jni as it is
 (usually) installed when you install the specified libswt3.4-gtk-java.
 I can explicitly add it to the dependency list of the next version to
 make sure we don't have this problem again.

 Cheers, Joseph



 2009/3/17 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com:
  it seems my phone is java enabled...i get:
  r...@om-gta02 ~ $ jamvm -cp go.jar org.test.go
  Hello class: java.lang.Class
 
  I installed the new version of gvsig and now i get:
 
  r...@om-gta02 ~ $ DISPLAY=:0 gvsig
  Log file: /usr/share/gv-om/log/1237295403472.gvsig-mobile.log.txt
  java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no swt-gtk-3428 or swt-gtk in
  swt.library.path, java.library.path or the jar file
    at org.eclipse.swt.internal.Library.loadLibrary(Library.java:233)
    at org.eclipse.swt.internal.Library.loadLibrary(Library.java:151)
    at org.eclipse.swt.internal.C.clinit(C.java:21)
    at org.eclipse.swt.internal.Converter.wcsToMbcs(Converter.java:63)
    at org.eclipse.swt.internal.Converter.wcsToMbcs(Converter.java:54)
    at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.clinit(Display.java:128)
    at 
  es.prodevelop.gvsig.mobile.app.GvsigMobileApp.execute(GvsigMobileApp.java:100)
    at es.prodevelop.gvsig.mobile.app.Launcher.main(Launcher.java:129)
 
  so i installed libswt3.4-gtk-jni
  and now it works
  it didn't work without that file
 
  y
 
 
 
  On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio
  jldoming...@prodevelop.es wrote:
  Hello Yorick. I understand then that your phone is not Java-enabled right
  now?
 
  Can you copy the attached 'go.jar' to your phone and type from the same
  folder:
 
  jamvm -cp ./go.jar org.test.go
 
  This what I get:
 
  r...@om-gta02:~# jamvm -cp ./go.jar org.test.go
  Hello class: java.lang.Class
  r...@om-gta02:~#
 
 
 
  What do you get?
 
 
 
  Regards,
 
 
 
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  -Original Message-
  From: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org on behalf of Yorick Moko
  Sent: Mon 16/03/2009 18:26
  To: List for Openmoko community discussion
  Subject: Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko
 
  thanks for your help, but i get:
 
  r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg install cacao -force-depends
  Installing cacao (0.99.3-r5.1) to root...
  Downloading
  http://jalimo.evolvis.org/repository/openmoko/armv4t/cacao_0.99.3-r5.1_armv4t.ipk
  Installing classpath (0.97.2-r8.1) to root...
  Downloading
  http://jalimo.evolvis.org/repository/openmoko/armv4t/classpath_0.97.2-r8.1_armv4t.ipk
  Installing classpath-common (0.97.2-r8.1) to root...
  Downloading
  http://jalimo.evolvis.org/repository/openmoko/armv4t/classpath-common_0.97.2-r8.1_armv4t.ipk
  Configuring cacao
  update-alternatives: Linking //usr/bin/java to /usr/bin/cacao
  Configuring classpath
  Configuring classpath-common
  Collected errors:
   * Warning: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for cacao:
           *  libgcc-s1 (= 4.1.2) *  libgcc-s1 (= 4.1.2) *
  r...@om-gta02 ~ $ cacao -Xmx40M -cp
  /usr/share/java/swt.jar:/usr/share/gv-om/class/all.jar
  es/prodevelop/gvsig/mobile/app/Launcher fr /usr/share/gv-om /media/car
  Absurd stack bottom value
  Aborted
 
  btw:
  r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg list_installed |grep libgcc
  libgcc1 - 4.1.2-r19 -
 
 
  On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio
  jldoming...@prodevelop.es wrote:
  Hello, Yorick,
 
  You can also try cacao:
 
  opkg install cacao
 
  then:
 
  cacao -Xmx40M -cp /usr/share/java/swt.jar:/usr/share/gv-om/class/all.jar
  es/prodevelop/gvsig/mobile/app/Launcher fr /usr/share/gv-om /media/card
 
  Regsrd,
  Juan Lucas
 
 
  
  De: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org en nombre de Yorick Moko
  Enviado el: lun 16/03/2009 17:45
  Para: List for Openmoko community discussion
  Asunto: Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko
 
  still nobody getting (on shr-testing) the following error?
  r...@om-gta02 /etc/init.d $ DISPLAY=:0 gvsig
  Stopping freesmartphone.org gpsd compatibility daemon: stopped process
  in pidfile '/var/run/fso-gpsd.pid' (pid 1442)
  (done)
  Starting freesmartphone.org gpsd compatibility daemon: (ok)
  Exception occurred while VM initialising.
  java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Class
 
  using the terminal command I found in these e-mails i also get the same
  error:
  r...@om-gta02

Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko

2009-03-17 Thread Joseph Reeves
Updated with a new version (0.11) that fixes these SHR launching
issues. Thanks for the feedback.

There was no change to any of the proper code - so if you could get
it to run yesterday the new version won't change anything for you:

http://downloads.thehumanjourney.net/gvsigmobile_0.11_armv4t.ipk

More info, and a call for help from Debian users on my blog:

http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/gvsig_mobile_0_11_released

(the opkg repo has been updated, so users of that can simply opkg
update  opkg upgrade)

Cheers, Joseph



2009/3/16 Francesco de Virgilio fradev...@gmail.com:
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 error on shr-testing:
 r...@om-gta02 ~/.mokometeo $ opkg install jamvm libswt3.4-gtk-java
 classpath-gtk classpath-awt gpsd
 http://downloads.thehumanjourney.net/gvsigmobile_0.1_armv4t.ipk
 Downloading http://downloads.thehumanjourney.net/gvsigmobile_0.1_armv4t.ipk
 Multiple replacers for gpsd, using first one (fso-gpsd)
 Package fso-gpsd is already installed in root.
 Installing gvsigmobile (0.1) to root...
 Multiple replacers for gpsd, using first one (fso-gpsd)
 Collected errors:
  * Cannot find package jamvm.
  * Cannot find package libswt3.4-gtk-java.
  * Cannot find package classpath-gtk.
  * Cannot find package classpath-awt.
  * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for gvsigmobile:
          *  jamvm *  libswt3.4-gtk-java *  classpath-gtk *  classpath-awt *


 On SHR-testing it works for me:

 opkg --force-depends install
 http://downloads.thehumanjourney.net/gvsigmobile_0.1_armv4t.ipk

 After the installation, there's no icon on Illume desktop. If I try
 gvsig from terminal, it answers me not found.

 I've started it with the followin command (on one line):

 jamvm -Xmx40M -cp /usr/share/java/swt.jar:/usr/share/gv-om/class/all.jar
 es/prodevelop/gvsig/mobile/app/Launcher fr /usr/share/gv-om /media/card

 I've found it in /usr/bin/gvsig.

 I want to give my public appreciation and thanks to GvSig mobile
 developer(s) and to Oxford Archaeologic for bringing us such beautiful
 app. I'm testing it on my shapefiles of Italian archaeologic sites (near
 Bari, to be precise).

 Thanks again :D
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Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko

2009-03-17 Thread Joseph Reeves
 
 De: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org en nombre de kimaidou
 Enviado el: lun 16/03/2009 17:32
 Para: List for Openmoko community discussion
 Asunto: Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko

 Normallu on last SHR testing, the gpsd is automatically started for every
 application using it. It is so with tangogps for example.

 2009/3/16 Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com

 Great news :)

 SHR users just have to remember to start gpsd if you want to see where
 you are - that's what /usr/bin/gvsig does on OM2008.x distributions,
 but that doesn't seem to be working for you SHR people :(

 Cheers, Joseph



 2009/3/16 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com:
  Hi all
 
  Thanks to the command line (one line) Francesco da Virgilo gaves in
  his
  email :
  r...@om-gta02 ~ $ jamvm -Xmx40M -cp
  /usr/share/java/swt.jar:/usr/share/gv-om/class/all.jar
  es/prodevelop/gvsig/mobile/app/Launcher fr /usr/share/gv-om
  /media/card
 
  I am able to run it on SHR too. This is a great step for mobile GIS
  solutions ! Thanks to the developpers !
 
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Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko

2009-03-16 Thread Joseph Reeves
We seem to have some issues with SHR, but it should install at least
(I've been told that it does, although haven't tried myself).

Have you added the Jalimo repos to your phone?

https://wiki.evolvis.org/jalimo/index.php/Packages#OpenMoko

If you did, I'm sure you also ran opkg update, but it's best just to check.

Cheers, Joseph



2009/3/16 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com:
 error on shr-testing:
 r...@om-gta02 ~/.mokometeo $ opkg install jamvm libswt3.4-gtk-java
 classpath-gtk classpath-awt gpsd
 http://downloads.thehumanjourney.net/gvsigmobile_0.1_armv4t.ipk
 Downloading http://downloads.thehumanjourney.net/gvsigmobile_0.1_armv4t.ipk
 Multiple replacers for gpsd, using first one (fso-gpsd)
 Package fso-gpsd is already installed in root.
 Installing gvsigmobile (0.1) to root...
 Multiple replacers for gpsd, using first one (fso-gpsd)
 Collected errors:
  * Cannot find package jamvm.
  * Cannot find package libswt3.4-gtk-java.
  * Cannot find package classpath-gtk.
  * Cannot find package classpath-awt.
  * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for gvsigmobile:
         *  jamvm *  libswt3.4-gtk-java *  classpath-gtk *  classpath-awt *


 On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio
 jldoming...@prodevelop.es wrote:
 Dear list,
 there is now an unofficial version of gvSIG Mobile for Openmoko:
 http://www.opkg.org/package_162.html
 http://planet.osgeo.org/
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Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko

2009-03-16 Thread Joseph Reeves
 On SHR-testing it works for me:

Great to hear :)

 After the installation, there's no icon on Illume desktop. If I try
 gvsig from terminal, it answers me not found.

The icon should appear, but seemingly doesn't :( restart your xserver
and you will see the lovely gvSIG icon. Rebooting the phone does the
same.


After the installation, there's no icon on Illume desktop. If I try
gvsig from terminal, it answers me not found.

I don't know why it's not found if the file gvsig exists in /usr/bin -
it works fine in OM2008.X - does SHR do something differently?

Thanks for the feedback,

Joseph



2009/3/16 Francesco de Virgilio fradev...@gmail.com:
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 Yorick Moko ha scritto:
 error on shr-testing:
 r...@om-gta02 ~/.mokometeo $ opkg install jamvm libswt3.4-gtk-java
 classpath-gtk classpath-awt gpsd
 http://downloads.thehumanjourney.net/gvsigmobile_0.1_armv4t.ipk
 Downloading http://downloads.thehumanjourney.net/gvsigmobile_0.1_armv4t.ipk
 Multiple replacers for gpsd, using first one (fso-gpsd)
 Package fso-gpsd is already installed in root.
 Installing gvsigmobile (0.1) to root...
 Multiple replacers for gpsd, using first one (fso-gpsd)
 Collected errors:
  * Cannot find package jamvm.
  * Cannot find package libswt3.4-gtk-java.
  * Cannot find package classpath-gtk.
  * Cannot find package classpath-awt.
  * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for gvsigmobile:
          *  jamvm *  libswt3.4-gtk-java *  classpath-gtk *  classpath-awt *


 On SHR-testing it works for me:

 opkg --force-depends install
 http://downloads.thehumanjourney.net/gvsigmobile_0.1_armv4t.ipk

 After the installation, there's no icon on Illume desktop. If I try
 gvsig from terminal, it answers me not found.

 I've started it with the followin command (on one line):

 jamvm -Xmx40M -cp /usr/share/java/swt.jar:/usr/share/gv-om/class/all.jar
 es/prodevelop/gvsig/mobile/app/Launcher fr /usr/share/gv-om /media/card

 I've found it in /usr/bin/gvsig.

 I want to give my public appreciation and thanks to GvSig mobile
 developer(s) and to Oxford Archaeologic for bringing us such beautiful
 app. I'm testing it on my shapefiles of Italian archaeologic sites (near
 Bari, to be precise).

 Thanks again :D
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Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko

2009-03-16 Thread Joseph Reeves
Juan Lucas could answer this better than I can, but Jamvm was chosen
as our current favourite java implementation. Of course, you can
always install any java you'd like and change /usr/bin/gvsig to run
java -Xmx40M -cp /u... rather than jamvm -Xmx40M -cp /u...

It works with cacao, for example, just fine; it is noticeably slower,
however, and is far from perfect. I don't know if this would help the
SHR folks - testers would be appreciated :)

Cheers, Joseph



2009/3/16 Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk:
 All (except possibly jamvm?) are in fso-testing, or were on Friday. I don't
 know why it depends on jamvm rather than a list of alternative java providers.

 On Monday 16 March 2009, Yorick Moko wrote:
 error on shr-testing:
 r...@om-gta02 ~/.mokometeo $ opkg install jamvm libswt3.4-gtk-java
 classpath-gtk classpath-awt gpsd
 http://downloads.thehumanjourney.net/gvsigmobile_0.1_armv4t.ipk
 Downloading http://downloads.thehumanjourney.net/gvsigmobile_0.1_armv4t.ipk
 Multiple replacers for gpsd, using first one (fso-gpsd)
 Package fso-gpsd is already installed in root.
 Installing gvsigmobile (0.1) to root...
 Multiple replacers for gpsd, using first one (fso-gpsd)
 Collected errors:
  * Cannot find package jamvm.
  * Cannot find package libswt3.4-gtk-java.
  * Cannot find package classpath-gtk.
  * Cannot find package classpath-awt.
  * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for gvsigmobile:
          *  jamvm *  libswt3.4-gtk-java *  classpath-gtk *  classpath-awt *


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 jldoming...@prodevelop.es wrote:
  Dear list,
  there is now an unofficial version of gvSIG Mobile for Openmoko:
  http://www.opkg.org/package_162.html
  http://planet.osgeo.org/
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[SHR] Launching applications

2009-03-16 Thread Joseph Reeves
As per the recent gvSIG Mobile thread:

http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2486265|a2486543

Why does SHR fail to find the application gvsig when the file exists
as: /usr/bin/gvsig ?

The application can be run with:

jamvm -Xmx40M -cp
/usr/share/java/swt.jar:/usr/share/gv-om/class/all.jar
es/prodevelop/gvsig/mobile/app/Launcher fr /usr/share/gv-om
/media/card

but this doesn't work if executed from the script /usr/bin/gvsig - why is this?

What do I need to do to allow execution by pressing the icon in SHR?

Thanks, Joseph

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Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko

2009-03-16 Thread Joseph Reeves
Great news :)

SHR users just have to remember to start gpsd if you want to see where
you are - that's what /usr/bin/gvsig does on OM2008.x distributions,
but that doesn't seem to be working for you SHR people :(

Cheers, Joseph



2009/3/16 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com:
 Hi all

 Thanks to the command line (one line) Francesco da Virgilo gaves in his
 email :
 r...@om-gta02 ~ $ jamvm -Xmx40M -cp
 /usr/share/java/swt.jar:/usr/share/gv-om/class/all.jar
 es/prodevelop/gvsig/mobile/app/Launcher fr /usr/share/gv-om /media/card

 I am able to run it on SHR too. This is a great step for mobile GIS
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Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko

2009-03-16 Thread Joseph Reeves
Ok, that's cool.

Does this help SHR users? Does editing
/usr/share/applications/gvsig.desktop to execute the command as found
by Francesco instead of simply gvsig work?

Cheers, Joseph



2009/3/16 Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio jldoming...@prodevelop.es:
 Yes, sorry, I read about that only yesterday. I think the first line in the
 gvsig.sh (restarting the Gpsd) is probably unnecessary in all cases.

 Regards,
 Juan Lucas
 
 De: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org en nombre de kimaidou
 Enviado el: lun 16/03/2009 17:32
 Para: List for Openmoko community discussion
 Asunto: Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko

 Normallu on last SHR testing, the gpsd is automatically started for every
 application using it. It is so with tangogps for example.

 2009/3/16 Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com

 Great news :)

 SHR users just have to remember to start gpsd if you want to see where
 you are - that's what /usr/bin/gvsig does on OM2008.x distributions,
 but that doesn't seem to be working for you SHR people :(

 Cheers, Joseph



 2009/3/16 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com:
  Hi all
 
  Thanks to the command line (one line) Francesco da Virgilo gaves in his
  email :
  r...@om-gta02 ~ $ jamvm -Xmx40M -cp
  /usr/share/java/swt.jar:/usr/share/gv-om/class/all.jar
  es/prodevelop/gvsig/mobile/app/Launcher fr /usr/share/gv-om /media/card
 
  I am able to run it on SHR too. This is a great step for mobile GIS
  solutions ! Thanks to the developpers !
 
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Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko

2009-03-16 Thread Joseph Reeves
Juan Lucas mentioned to me off-list that your jamvm install might be
broken for some reason. Can you opkg install cacao and edit the
command to run java  rather than jamvm 

That should work fine. If it does, perhaps try reinstalling jamvm?
It'll work with Cacao, but it seems to be better with Jam.

Thanks, Joseph



2009/3/16 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com:
 still nobody getting (on shr-testing) the following error?
 r...@om-gta02 /etc/init.d $ DISPLAY=:0 gvsig
 Stopping freesmartphone.org gpsd compatibility daemon: stopped process
 in pidfile '/var/run/fso-gpsd.pid' (pid 1442)
 (done)
 Starting freesmartphone.org gpsd compatibility daemon: (ok)
 Exception occurred while VM initialising.
 java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Class

 using the terminal command I found in these e-mails i also get the same error:
 r...@om-gta02 ~ $ jamvm -Xmx40M -cp
 /usr/share/java/swt.jar:/usr/share/gv-om/class/all.jar
 es/prodevelop/gvsig/mobile/app/Launcher fr /usr/share/gv-om
 /media/card
 Exception occurred while VM initialising.
 java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Class

 y


 On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio
 jldoming...@prodevelop.es wrote:
 Yes, sorry, I read about that only yesterday. I think the first line in the
 gvsig.sh (restarting the Gpsd) is probably unnecessary in all cases.

 Regards,
 Juan Lucas
 
 De: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org en nombre de kimaidou
 Enviado el: lun 16/03/2009 17:32
 Para: List for Openmoko community discussion
 Asunto: Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko

 Normallu on last SHR testing, the gpsd is automatically started for every
 application using it. It is so with tangogps for example.

 2009/3/16 Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com

 Great news :)

 SHR users just have to remember to start gpsd if you want to see where
 you are - that's what /usr/bin/gvsig does on OM2008.x distributions,
 but that doesn't seem to be working for you SHR people :(

 Cheers, Joseph



 2009/3/16 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com:
  Hi all
 
  Thanks to the command line (one line) Francesco da Virgilo gaves in his
  email :
  r...@om-gta02 ~ $ jamvm -Xmx40M -cp
  /usr/share/java/swt.jar:/usr/share/gv-om/class/all.jar
  es/prodevelop/gvsig/mobile/app/Launcher fr /usr/share/gv-om /media/card
 
  I am able to run it on SHR too. This is a great step for mobile GIS
  solutions ! Thanks to the developpers !
 
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Re: [SHR] Launching applications

2009-03-16 Thread Joseph Reeves
Thanks all for the info and the testing. I'll update the file tomorrow
- users with the opkg.org repo will be able to simply opkg update 
opkg upgrade

cheers, joseph

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 The problem isn't that command, but the shell you're specifying at the
 start
 of the script. Change from #!/bin/bash to #!/bin/sh and it works just
 fine.

 Tested, now it works. Joseph Reeves, could you insert this fix in an
 upgrade for the gvsig ipk (in repository)?

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Re: Google web pages optimizer

2009-03-06 Thread Joseph Reeves
Thanks, have added the site to my office blacklists - was letting me
access all sorts of blocked content through the innocuous looking
google.com ;-)


2009/3/6 Leonti Bielski prishe...@gmail.com:
 Hi!

 http://www.google.com/gwt/n - here you can optimize webb pages for pda
 use - very useful for expensive gprs connection.

 Did not know about this before today, so just had to share in case
 someone else finds it useful.

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Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread Joseph Reeves
Seems the cradle is the only missing component here

Except the patent states that it doesn't have to include a cradle and,
in fact, that a cable may be considered a feature.

Well done Microsoft, you're trying to patent USB host mode on a phone...

Joseph


2009/2/3 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no:
 Gothnet wrote:


 Peter Nijs wrote:
 I'm almost sure someone suggested
 hooking up an external screen to it. That's technically not possible


 Isn't it?

 You can get external USB gfx cards these days.

 Whether FR has the power to drive one, or if there are FOSS drivers, I have
 no idea.

 No problem.
 The dock may contain a powered usb hub - so no power problem.
 An external screen can be a serial terminal, and usb-to-serial
 converters certainly exists. Linux always had drivers for serial
 terminals, these days also the usb-to-serial converters.

 For something more modern, use X over the network. (usb network or wifi)


 The usb cable to the pc seems to do everything:
 It connects the phone to:
 * the pc keyboard (use ssh software)
 * the pc screen (ssh tunneling X)
 * the pc mouse (ssh tunneling X)
 * network connection, whatever network(s) the pc is accessing
 * I have no camera, but it can be done using SANE.

 Seems the cradle is the only missing component here, but phone cradles
 aren't exactly new either.


 I guess it is possible to overturn that patent, if anyone has a hobby of
  suing microsoft...


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Re: Kustomizer for 2008.12

2009-02-02 Thread Joseph Reeves
Thanks Risto.

I really must update that USB logo to something that doesn't get stretched!

Joseph



2009/2/2 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi:
 Hi!

 I wrote a script to install all kinds of cool stuff to a clean 2008.12
 installation on Freerunner.

 For more information:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Kustomizer
 http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/kustomizer-for-openmoko-200812

 The script itself is at http://kurppa.fi/freerunner/kustomizer

 Feel free to try  play  improve it!

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Re: results of a survey maemo vs openmoko

2009-01-16 Thread Joseph Reeves
 They wanted to only let active members take part in the survey if I remember
 correctly. By sending the mail to the mailinglist they can't prevent non-
 active users not to participate.

If this was the case I'd rather they sent the questionnaire to the
entire mailing list and added the are you an active mailing list
user? question.

And look, I top quoted too ;)

Joseph



2009/1/16 Peter Nijs pe...@familienijs.be:
 They wanted to only let active members take part in the survey if I remember
 correctly. By sending the mail to the mailinglist they can't prevent non-
 active users not to participate.

 depeje

 On Thursday 15 January 2009 18:47:46 Joseph Reeves wrote:
 Did anyone else ignore the original survey as unsolicited spam? I'd
 have probably completed it if they'd sent a mail to the mailing list
 asking people to take part, but sending it to individual users seemed
 to be bad netiquette.

 Joseph

 2009/1/15 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com:
  http://public.smi.ethz.ch/files/MaemoOpenmoko/PublicDescriptiveStatistics
 .html
 
  it's also on the planet:
  http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/maemo-openmoko-community-survey-results-publi
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Re: results of a survey maemo vs openmoko

2009-01-15 Thread Joseph Reeves
Did anyone else ignore the original survey as unsolicited spam? I'd
have probably completed it if they'd sent a mail to the mailing list
asking people to take part, but sending it to individual users seemed
to be bad netiquette.

Joseph



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 http://public.smi.ethz.ch/files/MaemoOpenmoko/PublicDescriptiveStatistics.html

 it's also on the planet:
 http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/maemo-openmoko-community-survey-results-published/

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Re: Database applications practical on mobile device ?

2009-01-05 Thread Joseph Reeves
Hi Lother,

I'm part of a small team currently working on database applications
for the FreeRunner. We would be extremely interested in your work.

The most attractive solution we've seen so far is GNU Enterprise
Tools, although I have had little luck making this work on the phone.
We would prefer to use a GUI generated with wxPython, but my brief
attempts to get it running on Openmoko failed. I decided to try a GTK
interface, but was unable to satisfy GNUE's requirement of Egenix
DateTime.

We plan to run Sqlite on the phone with data entered via whatever
interface we can make work best. We will be synchronising this on
phone database with a postgesql database in our data centre using a
version of SqlSync we're currently working on.

We would be very interested in evaluating / contributing to your application.

Best regards,

Joseph



2009/1/5 lollisoft lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de:

 Hi,

 I like to ask if anyone is wishing to have some database applications on
 their phone.
 Or would it practical on such a small device ?

 I am a developer of an rapid database prototyper capable of generating any
 source code
 when prototyping is finished. Thus it will save a lot time when having
 templates.

 It's based on wxWidgets and I have seen these libraries on my FR some time
 ago.

 Thanks

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Re: mxDateTime on Openmoko?

2008-12-18 Thread Joseph Reeves
Thanks Timo,

I'm wanting to install gnue-forms on my phone for some database work.
When I didn't have mxdate time installed at all, I would run the
gnue-forms installation script and it would complain, predictably,
that I hadn't met the requirements.

I apt-get installed it onto my ubuntu laptop and copied the produced
files onto the phone, the application now tells me that I have the
*wrong* mxdate time installed:

r...@om-gta02:~/gnue-forms-0.6.1# python setup.py install
running install
checking GNUe Common Library
checking mxDateTime library
*** You don't have the (right) mxDateTime binaries installed !
---
Could not import the mx.DateTime package.
Please install mxDateTime from the mxtools suite.
The file 'INSTALL' contains more information about dependencies.
r...@om-gta02:~/gnue-forms-0.6.1#

I can produce the same results with:

r...@om-gta02:~/gnue-forms-0.6.1# python
Python 2.5.2 (r252:60911, Oct 14 2008, 01:51:25)
[GCC 4.1.2] on linux2
Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
 import mx.DateTime
*** You don't have the (right) mxDateTime binaries installed !
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File stdin, line 1, in module
 File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/mx/DateTime/__init__.py,
line 8, in module
   from DateTime import *
 File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/mx/DateTime/DateTime.py,
line 9, in module
   from mxDateTime import *
 File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/mx/DateTime/mxDateTime/__init__.py,
line 13, in module
   raise ImportError, why
ImportError: 
/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/mx/DateTime/mxDateTime/mxDateTime.so:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory




I see that /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/mx/DateTime/mxDateTime/mxDateTime.so
is a binary file. Perhaps I could replace it with a compiled binary
from the Openmoko debian distribution and it would work? All I would
have to do then is get Debian to work on my openmoko ;-)

Cheers,

Joseph




2008/12/12 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi:
 Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com writes:
 Has anyone had any joy installing Egenix mx base on openmoko?
 Specifically I need mxDateTime, but I'm not having any luck getting
 anything installed:

 Not sure how much this helps with openmoko distro but with debian
 mxdatetime seems to install just fine on the phone:

 li...@ginger$ sudo apt-get install python-egenix-mxdatetime
 Reading package lists... Done
 Building dependency tree
 Reading state information... Done
 The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer 
 required:
  libdrm2
 Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
 The following extra packages will be installed:
  python-egenix-mxtools
 Suggested packages:
  python-egenix-mxdatetime-dbg python-egenix-mxtools-dbg
 The following NEW packages will be installed:
  python-egenix-mxdatetime python-egenix-mxtools
 0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
 Need to get 1178kB of archives.
 After this operation, 2023kB of additional disk space will be used.
 Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
 Get:1 http://ftp.fi.debian.org unstable/main python-egenix-mxtools 3.1.1-1 
 [512kB]
 Get:2 http://ftp.fi.debian.org unstable/main python-egenix-mxdatetime 3.1.1-1 
 [667kB]
 Fetched 1178kB in 3min47s (5177B/s)
 debconf: delaying package configuration, since apt-utils is not installed
 Selecting previously deselected package python-egenix-mxtools.
 (Reading database ... 36487 files and directories currently installed.)
 Unpacking python-egenix-mxtools (from 
 .../python-egenix-mxtools_3.1.1-1_armel.deb) ...
 Selecting previously deselected package python-egenix-mxdatetime.
 Unpacking python-egenix-mxdatetime (from 
 .../python-egenix-mxdatetime_3.1.1-1_armel.deb) ...
 Setting up python-egenix-mxtools (3.1.1-1) ...
 Setting up python-egenix-mxdatetime (3.1.1-1) ...




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Re: VAR market

2008-12-17 Thread Joseph Reeves
Everything's at risk in the current global financial state ;-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_Added_Reseller



2008/12/17 Frederic Leroy fr...@starox.org:
 Le Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:14:33 +0100,
 Marcus Bauer mba...@bearstech.com a écrit :

 What is hackable:1 ?
 

 Hackable:1 is based on the DebianOnFreerunner but packaging the
 OM2007.2 applications, extending and bugfixing them. It is intended to
 become a stable platform for the VAR market and fun to use for
 everybody else.

 What is the VAR market ?
 Is it related to this :
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_at_risk

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mxDateTime on Openmoko?

2008-12-12 Thread Joseph Reeves
Has anyone had any joy installing Egenix mx base on openmoko?
Specifically I need mxDateTime, but I'm not having any luck getting
anything installed:

r...@om-gta02:~/egenix-mx-base-3.1.1# python setup.py install
running install
running build
running mx_autoconf
arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc -march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t -DNDEBUG
-g -O3 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -fPIC -D_GNU_SOURCE=1 -I/usr/include
-c _configtest.c -o _configtest.o
arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc: error trying to exec 'cc1': execvp: No
such file or directory
failure.
removing: _configtest.c _configtest.o
arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc -march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t -DNDEBUG
-g -O3 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -fPIC -D_GNU_SOURCE=1
-I/usr/include/python2.5 -I/usr/include -c _configtest.c -o
_configtest.o
arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc: error trying to exec 'cc1': execvp: No
such file or directory
failure.
removing: _configtest.c _configtest.o
macros to define: [('BAD_STATIC_FORWARD', '1')]
macros to undefine: ['HAVE_STRPTIME']
running build_ext

building extension mx.DateTime.mxDateTime.mxDateTime (required)
building 'mx.DateTime.mxDateTime.mxDateTime' extension
arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc -march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t -DNDEBUG
-g -O3 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -fPIC -DUSE_FAST_GETCURRENTTIME
-DBAD_STATIC_FORWARD=1 -UHAVE_STRPTIME -Imx/DateTime/mxDateTime
-I/usr/include/python2.5 -I/usr/include -c
mx/DateTime/mxDateTime/mxDateTime.c -o
build/temp.linux-armv4tl-2.5_ucs2/mx-DateTime-mxDateTime-mxDateTime/mx/DateTime/mxDateTime/mxDateTime.o
arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc: error trying to exec 'cc1': execvp: No
such file or directory
error: command 'arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc' failed with exit status 1
r...@om-gta02:~/egenix-mx-base-3.1.1#

Any pointers etc would be gratefully received.

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Re: removing the Sudoku package

2008-12-11 Thread Joseph Reeves
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#opkg list_installed | grep sudoku
pyefl-sudoku - 0.0.2+svnr49-r1.01 -
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~9#opkg remove pyefl-sudoku

(probably)



2008/12/11 Tony Berth [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Dear Group,

 how is it possible to completely remove the Sudoku application which comes
 by default with the distro? I don't want just to 'hide' the icon from the
 GUI!

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Re: removing the Sudoku package

2008-12-11 Thread Joseph Reeves
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~9#opkg remove -force-depends pyefl-sudoku

?



2008/12/11 Carlo Minucci [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Joseph Reeves ha scritto:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#opkg list_installed | grep sudoku
 pyefl-sudoku - 0.0.2+svnr49-r1.01 -
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~9#opkg remove pyefl-sudoku

 no, don't work
 because depend of another package (i don't remember the name)
 i have use the installer gui (click in bottom installer) for uninstall

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Re: openmoko as a ipv6 router - was Funding Global Domination Mk II The Console

2008-12-10 Thread Joseph Reeves
I'm not sure how standalone avahi-discover-standalone is:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg install avahi-discover-standalone
Installing avahi-discover-standalone (0.6.22-r8.01) to root...
Downloading 
http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/armv4t/avahi-discover-standalone_0.6.22-r8.01_armv4t.opk
Configuring avahi-discover-standalone
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# a
addgroup   adduseralsamixer  apmd   ar
assassin   atinterface
addressbookalsactlapmapp-restarter  ash
atdawk

I'd really like to get some more out of it. I'll have to re-read the
testing instructions and the part where you're told to remove avahi to
improve boot speed.

Joseph



2008/12/10 Marc Manthey [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Am 10.12.2008 um 13:59 schrieb Andreas Fischer:

 Marc Manthey wrote:

 Am 10.12.2008 um 13:15 schrieb Andreas Fischer:

 Marc Manthey wrote:

 Second question


 I would like to know if there is a  DNS  server implementation

 or something like bonjour /   avahi available for openmoko ?

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg list_installed | grep avahi

 libavahi-client3 - 0.6.22-r8.01 -

 libavahi-common3 - 0.6.22-r8.01 -

 libavahi-core5 - 0.6.22-r8.01 -

 libavahi-glib1 - 0.6.22-r8.01 -

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#

 This is on testing, but I remember seeing these packages on 2008.9, too.

 thanks Andreas

 can you try this , and tell me the result ?

 # dns-sd -B _ftp._tcp dns-sd.org

 Sure, if you tell me which of the following packages I should install to
 get the dns-sd command:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg list | cut -d  -f1 | grep avahi
 avahi
 avahi-autoipd
 avahi-daemon
 avahi-dbg
 avahi-dev
 avahi-discover
 avahi-discover-standalone
 avahi-dnsconfd
 avahi-doc
 avahi-locale-de
 avahi-utils
 libavahi-client3
 libavahi-common3
 libavahi-core5
 libavahi-glib1
 libavahi-gobject0
 libavahi-ui
 pulseaudio-lib-avahi-wrap
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#

 wow , this is kind of rediculous for such a fuctionalliry isn´t it ?
 Are  there any read me files where i can look for infos what the library
 does ?
 http://src.gnu-darwin.org/DarwinSourceArchive/expanded/mDNSResponder/mDNSResponder-87/mDNSShared/dnssd_clientshim.c
 Guess  avahi-discover-standalone might be enough for browsing  IMHO ?
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Re: openmoko as a ipv6 router - was Funding Global Domination Mk II The Console

2008-12-10 Thread Joseph Reeves
From another FreeRunner running 2008.9:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# a
addgroup   adduseralsamixer  apmd   ar
assassin   atinterfaceavahi-daemon
addressbookalsactlapmapp-restarter  ash
atdavahi-autoipd  awk
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#



2008/12/10 Marc Manthey [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Am 10.12.2008 um 14:38 schrieb Joseph Reeves:

 Configuring avahi-discover-standalone
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# a
 addgroup   adduseralsamixer  apmd   ar
assassin   atinterface
 addressbookalsactlapmapp-restarter  ash
atdawk


 looks like the addressbook should be shared on .local now ?
 you should test from other device ?

 Marc

 Joseph



 2008/12/10 Marc Manthey [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Am 10.12.2008 um 13:59 schrieb Andreas Fischer:

 Marc Manthey wrote:

 Am 10.12.2008 um 13:15 schrieb Andreas Fischer:

 Marc Manthey wrote:

 Second question


 I would like to know if there is a  DNS  server implementation

 or something like bonjour /   avahi available for openmoko ?

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg list_installed | grep avahi

 libavahi-client3 - 0.6.22-r8.01 -

 libavahi-common3 - 0.6.22-r8.01 -

 libavahi-core5 - 0.6.22-r8.01 -

 libavahi-glib1 - 0.6.22-r8.01 -

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#

 This is on testing, but I remember seeing these packages on 2008.9, too.

 thanks Andreas

 can you try this , and tell me the result ?

 # dns-sd -B _ftp._tcp dns-sd.org

 Sure, if you tell me which of the following packages I should install to

 get the dns-sd command:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg list | cut -d  -f1 | grep avahi

 avahi

 avahi-autoipd

 avahi-daemon

 avahi-dbg

 avahi-dev

 avahi-discover

 avahi-discover-standalone

 avahi-dnsconfd

 avahi-doc

 avahi-locale-de

 avahi-utils

 libavahi-client3

 libavahi-common3

 libavahi-core5

 libavahi-glib1

 libavahi-gobject0

 libavahi-ui

 pulseaudio-lib-avahi-wrap

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#

 wow , this is kind of rediculous for such a fuctionalliry isn´t it ?

 Are  there any read me files where i can look for infos what the library

 does ?

 http://src.gnu-darwin.org/DarwinSourceArchive/expanded/mDNSResponder/mDNSResponder-87/mDNSShared/dnssd_clientshim.c

 Guess  avahi-discover-standalone might be enough for browsing  IMHO ?

 thanks

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[2009.testing] Problems with GPRS multiplexing

2008-12-09 Thread Joseph Reeves
Dear all,

I'm having trouble getting GPRS multiplexing to work on the latest
testing release. Any help would be appreciated a lot.

I've followed the guide here:

http://www.teaparty.net/technotes/openmoko-2.html#GPRS

Installing the multiplexing software as per Florian Hackenberger's instructions:

http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-August/028495.html

The /etc/ppp/peers/gprs, /etc/ppp/chat-gprs  /etc/ppp/chap-secrets
were copied from theteaparty.net, but edited with the specific details
for Vodafone UK (contract). I also copied the ppd-start script:

http://www.teaparty.net/technotes/data/pppd-start

Running it returns:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ./pppd-start
Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildSignaled: Process
/usr/libexec/dbus-daemon-launch-helper received signal 4
@om-gta02:/home/root#

The phone then becomes unresponsive.

The process mediaserver seems to be consuming massive amounts of
resources from boot.

Input from people running a working multiplexing setup would be
massively appreciated.

Thanks,

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Re: Optimization team update (11/23 ~ 11/29)

2008-12-08 Thread Joseph Reeves
GTK support seems mildly improved in the testing release, but I'm
still having big troubles with it. Note, that relatively simple GTK
apps, such as TangoGPS work without issue.

We're running a complex GTK app:  http://gvsigmobileonopenmoko.wordpress.com/

It works perfectly on 2007.2, but on 2008.x releases it suffers from
multiple problems; layouting and stability seem to the big ones. It is
improved when running on the latest testing release, but still not up
to the standard of GTK applications on 2007.2.

We were promised that we wouldn't need to worry about Openmoko moving
away from GTK as the latest releases would still run GTK applications.
However performance is clearly below an acceptable level.

I will be filing bugs ASAP and would be very interested in hearing
comments from others. If anyone would like a copy of the gvSIG Mobile
ipk for testing, please let me know.

Thanks,

Joseph



2008/11/30 John Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Dear Community,

 As Sushama (our new testing team member) indicated in
 http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2008-November/003493.html ,
 we won't have a release in Nov.  Currently the testing team is going
 to do a full test on the latest testing image.  It has all the goodies
 we did and a lot of improvements over Om2008.9, so please try it and
 report any error you find.


 Upgrade howto:

 From Om2008.9 it's recommanded to upgrade with the following steps:

 sed -i -e 's%Om2008.8%testing%' /etc/opkg/*.conf
 /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm stop
 screen -DR
 opkg update
 opkg -force-overwrite upgrade
 # (please ans Y to all questions)
 # (the sshd (dropbear) will restart, so you need to reconnect and do
 # 'screen -DR' again)
 opkg upgrade
 shutdown -r now

 To get the fastest boot time you also need to remove the following
 packages:

 opkg remove task-base-nfs task-base-smbfs task-base-bluetooth \
 task-base-usbgadget avahi-daemon avahi-autoipd blueprobe \
 usb-gadget-mode portmap exquisite exquisite-theme-freerunner \
 exquisite-themes


 Known issues:

 * GTK redraw problem
 * some obsolete kernel modules still left in system
 * must remove 'ro' in kernel boot parameter if you use sd boot.
 * will purge your incompatible e config, so you might need to set
  stuffs like suspend time again.


 Echo:

 Since there are different hw versions out there (a5, a6, a7), it's
 impossible to provide one alsa state file that suits all models.
 However, it seems you can always find appropriate values for your
 neo.  My way is to adjust
 control.4 Speaker Playback Volume in
 /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmhandset.state

 the max value is 127, 95 works best on my a5.  With volume level 3 or
 4 in qtopia dialer, the other side can hear no echo while I get good
 audio quality.


 Team update:

 Tick helped to put his touchscreen improvement into stable-tracking,
 he will work on opkg internals next.  Olv moved to look into kernel
 and fso.  Erin will try bluetooth.  Julian is working on the GTK
 redraw issue, please help him out.  Jeremy will fix some qtopia bugs
 and keep working on suspend/resume issues.


 Regards,
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Re: FTP Client

2008-12-08 Thread Joseph Reeves
http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/yet_another_openmoko_ftp_client


2008/12/8 SCarlson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Crystal Ball?   This question is not specific to a distro flavor.  FSO or
 OM2008, Openmoko, Qtopia. An ARM port of a ftp client... Just curious if
 someone else has done the work already, if not I want to get one ported.

 Scott


 arne anka wrote:

 sorry, my crystal ball just broke ...

 please, prefix the subject with your distribution!
 it's not only a matter of politeness but, with the plethora of
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Re: Optimization team update (11/23 ~ 11/29)

2008-12-01 Thread Joseph Reeves
I've discovered the same:

https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2148

Joseph



2008/12/1 William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Loaded it up and it rebooted fine, but isnt usable.

 Ive lost the spanner so I cant configure it

 It goes to sleep automaticly after a few seconds and without the spanner
 I cant figure out how to disable it (I see you mention that sleep time
 needs to be reset - but how?).  Same if I have it plugged into usb, goes
 to sleep while I am logged into it.  The old settings icon is still
 present, but does nothing except spin for a few seconds and exits -
 tried logging in to faultfind it but - you guessed it, phone went to
 sleep.

 Its gone back to the huge icons - a real pain, again I cant see how to
 select the smaller ones without the spanner.

 Ive lost the terminal keyboard and only have the crappy ones left -
 unusable for anything serious, like trying to use a terminal to fix
 things :(

 I'll try an unmodified 2008.9 in a couple of days and see if my changes
 to make 2008.9 usable are the cause of the above.

 The good - gsm registered immediately, but then it went to sleep :(

 BillK




 On Sun, 2008-11-30 at 19:50 +0800, John Lee wrote:
 Dear Community,

 As Sushama (our new testing team member) indicated in
 http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2008-November/003493.html ,
 we won't have a release in Nov.  Currently the testing team is going
 to do a full test on the latest testing image.  It has all the goodies
 we did and a lot of improvements over Om2008.9, so please try it and
 report any error you find.


 Upgrade howto:

 From Om2008.9 it's recommanded to upgrade with the following steps:

 sed -i -e 's%Om2008.8%testing%' /etc/opkg/*.conf
 /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm stop
 screen -DR
 opkg update
 opkg -force-overwrite upgrade
 # (please ans Y to all questions)
 # (the sshd (dropbear) will restart, so you need to reconnect and do
 # 'screen -DR' again)
 opkg upgrade
 shutdown -r now

 To get the fastest boot time you also need to remove the following
 packages:

 opkg remove task-base-nfs task-base-smbfs task-base-bluetooth \
 task-base-usbgadget avahi-daemon avahi-autoipd blueprobe \
 usb-gadget-mode portmap exquisite exquisite-theme-freerunner \
 exquisite-themes


 Known issues:

 * GTK redraw problem
 * some obsolete kernel modules still left in system
 * must remove 'ro' in kernel boot parameter if you use sd boot.
 * will purge your incompatible e config, so you might need to set
   stuffs like suspend time again.


 Echo:

 Since there are different hw versions out there (a5, a6, a7), it's
 impossible to provide one alsa state file that suits all models.
 However, it seems you can always find appropriate values for your
 neo.  My way is to adjust
 control.4 Speaker Playback Volume in
 /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmhandset.state

 the max value is 127, 95 works best on my a5.  With volume level 3 or
 4 in qtopia dialer, the other side can hear no echo while I get good
 audio quality.


 Team update:

 Tick helped to put his touchscreen improvement into stable-tracking,
 he will work on opkg internals next.  Olv moved to look into kernel
 and fso.  Erin will try bluetooth.  Julian is working on the GTK
 redraw issue, please help him out.  Jeremy will fix some qtopia bugs
 and keep working on suspend/resume issues.


 Regards,
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Re: Optimization team update (11/23 ~ 11/29)

2008-12-01 Thread Joseph Reeves
I've got:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg status moko-gtk-engine
Package: moko-gtk-engine
Version: 0.1.0+svnr4734-r0
Depends: moko-gtk-theme, gtk+ (= 2.12.11), libatk-1.0-0 (= 1.20.0),
pango (= 1.18.3), libcairo2 (= 1.6.4), libgobject-2.0-0 (= 2.16.4),
libgmodule-2.0-0 (= 2.16.4), libc6 (= 2.6.1), libglib-2.0-0 (=
2.16.4)
Status: install user installed
Architecture: armv4t

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#

And TangoGPS looks fine.

There seems to be a strange problem with gtk apps that, when first
loaded, they appear to freeze, but if you go back to home then
select the open app from the top drop down list again, they work fine.
It's an odd one to reproduce though, so I won't file a ticket yet.

Joseph



2008/12/1 John Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 10:22:28PM +0900, William Kenworthy wrote:
 Thanks, also I was bit too rushed.  I shut down X which allowed me to
 stay logged in and find out that the customisations to get the spanner
 and keyboards had been undone - fixed them and I can now use the phone.
 The suspend time is fixable from the spanner so the settings isnt
 needed.

 Some of my existing apps wont start (pypennotes, ...) so they probably
 need upgrading.  openmoocow (old version) started once out of three
 tries - left me at a grey screen otherwise.  At one point the display
 died and restarted itself when I tapped a blank part of the home screen.

 Fonts and widgets are far too large on apps like pythm, tangogps and the
 like.

 Just checking:

 Do you have moko-gtk-engine and moko-gtk-theme installed ?


 Tried a test call - no audio :(
 Probably need to set a profile, but need the settings app for that.

 BillK

 On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 12:51 +, Joseph Reeves wrote:
  I've discovered the same:
 
  https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2148
 
  Joseph
 
 
 
  2008/12/1 William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   Loaded it up and it rebooted fine, but isnt usable.
  
   Ive lost the spanner so I cant configure it
  
   It goes to sleep automaticly after a few seconds and without the spanner
   I cant figure out how to disable it (I see you mention that sleep time
   needs to be reset - but how?).  Same if I have it plugged into usb, goes
   to sleep while I am logged into it.  The old settings icon is still
   present, but does nothing except spin for a few seconds and exits -
   tried logging in to faultfind it but - you guessed it, phone went to
   sleep.
  
   Its gone back to the huge icons - a real pain, again I cant see how to
   select the smaller ones without the spanner.
  
   Ive lost the terminal keyboard and only have the crappy ones left -
   unusable for anything serious, like trying to use a terminal to fix
   things :(
  
   I'll try an unmodified 2008.9 in a couple of days and see if my changes
   to make 2008.9 usable are the cause of the above.
  
   The good - gsm registered immediately, but then it went to sleep :(
  
   BillK
  
  
  
  
   On Sun, 2008-11-30 at 19:50 +0800, John Lee wrote:
   Dear Community,
  
   As Sushama (our new testing team member) indicated in
   http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2008-November/003493.html ,
   we won't have a release in Nov.  Currently the testing team is going
   to do a full test on the latest testing image.  It has all the goodies
   we did and a lot of improvements over Om2008.9, so please try it and
   report any error you find.
  
  
   Upgrade howto:
  
   From Om2008.9 it's recommanded to upgrade with the following steps:
  
   sed -i -e 's%Om2008.8%testing%' /etc/opkg/*.conf
   /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm stop
   screen -DR
   opkg update
   opkg -force-overwrite upgrade
   # (please ans Y to all questions)
   # (the sshd (dropbear) will restart, so you need to reconnect and do
   # 'screen -DR' again)
   opkg upgrade
   shutdown -r now
  
   To get the fastest boot time you also need to remove the following
   packages:
  
   opkg remove task-base-nfs task-base-smbfs task-base-bluetooth \
   task-base-usbgadget avahi-daemon avahi-autoipd blueprobe \
   usb-gadget-mode portmap exquisite exquisite-theme-freerunner \
   exquisite-themes
  
  
   Known issues:
  
   * GTK redraw problem
   * some obsolete kernel modules still left in system
   * must remove 'ro' in kernel boot parameter if you use sd boot.
   * will purge your incompatible e config, so you might need to set
 stuffs like suspend time again.
  
  
   Echo:
  
   Since there are different hw versions out there (a5, a6, a7), it's
   impossible to provide one alsa state file that suits all models.
   However, it seems you can always find appropriate values for your
   neo.  My way is to adjust
   control.4 Speaker Playback Volume in
   /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmhandset.state
  
   the max value is 127, 95 works best on my a5.  With volume level 3 or
   4 in qtopia dialer, the other side can hear no echo while I get good
   audio quality.
  
  
   Team update:
  
   Tick helped to put his touchscreen improvement into stable-tracking,
   he

Re: Optimization team update (11/23 ~ 11/29)

2008-12-01 Thread Joseph Reeves
Thanks Tom,

Looks like _the_ big problem I've come across is well known to a fair
few people.

Cheers,

Joseph



2008/12/1 Thomas White [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:31:03 +
 Joseph Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There seems to be a strange problem with gtk apps that, when first
 loaded, they appear to freeze, but if you go back to home then
 select the open app from the top drop down list again, they work fine.
 It's an odd one to reproduce though, so I won't file a ticket yet.

 That's exactly bug #1946, so no need to file a ticket...
 https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1946

 Tom

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Re: A light for the Freerunner

2008-11-29 Thread Joseph Reeves
Hi patrick, thanks for the link. You've encouraged me to create a much
improved (?) version of my usb button. It'll be on planet.openmoko.org
on monday.
Cheers, j

On 28/11/2008, Patrick Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 because i like my light on my older phone, a Sony Ericsson W800i, i
 added a light on the miniusb - connector. Perhaps anybody like it or has
 any improvements for me :D

 Here you can find a wiki article about the light
 http://yourse.de/wiki/doku.php?id=openmoko:usb_light

 And here two videos
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK5w-OHSm9g
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2H4QZq2xxE

 It was a proof-of-concept and it works! Perhaps Openmoko likes the idea
 and adds a light directly into the case in the next generation of
 devices :)

 At least manufacutring at one's own risk ;)

 Have fun!

 with kind regards

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Re: kismet on freerunner

2008-11-26 Thread Joseph Reeves
Which would be why NeoPwn comes with a compatible USB wifi adapter.

J

2008/11/26 Graeme Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 14:18 +0100, jhig wrote:
 hi,

 i don't know if this was allready a topic here:
 does kismet run on freerunner?

 i installed debian and the kismet package.
 now i have to insert the right source into the kismet.conf file.

 i tried
 source=ath5k,eth0,wifi

 but all i get is:
 debian-gta02:~/progs# kismet_server
 Suid priv-dropping disabled.  This may not be secure.
 No specific sources given to be enabled, all will be enabled.
 Non-RFMon VAPs will be destroyed on multi-vap interfaces (ie, madwifi-ng)
 Enabling channel hopping.
 Enabling channel splitting.
 NOTICE: Disabling channel hopping, no enabled sources are able to change
 channel.
 Source 0 (wifi): Enabling monitor mode for ath5k source interface eth0 
 channel
 6...
 FATAL: Failed to set monitor mode: Invalid argument.  This usually means your
 drivers either do not support monitor mode, or use a different mechanism for
 getting to it.  Make sure you have a version of your drivers that support
 monitor mode, and consult the troubleshooting section of the README.

 I think that message is self explanatory. The drivers don't support
 monitor mode so you cant use kismet.

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testing Jalimo on Openmoko

2008-11-12 Thread Joseph Reeves
Dear all,

Apologies for cross-posting, but I wanted to catch both the Jalimo and
Openmoko communities in one go.

I've been testing gvSIG on Openmoko  Jalimo [1], but we've come up
with a problem that seems to be either caused by myself doing
something stupid, or by Jalimo working slightly differently across
different Openmoko distributions. The problem is this: gvSIG mobile is
originally tested on a FreeRunner running Jalimo on Openmoko 2007.2,
as part of it's operation you can select to open a file, this then
produces a open location dialogue. The same does not happen, however,
on any other version of Openmoko I've tried. To test on various
platforms, I've created a simple application.

You will need to install from Jalimo: cacao, classpath and clsspath-gtk

I've followed the wiki instructions for this:
https://wiki.evolvis.org/jalimo/index.php/OpenMoko

You can then:

opkg install 
http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/resource/java-test_0.1_armv4t.ipk

This will place a little javatest button in your installed apps menu.
Clicking on it, *should* open an open file dialogue. It doesn't work
on 2008.9, but why is that? If anyone else is able to test I'd be
greatly appreciative, and even more so if an answer can be found, even
if it is just me being an idiot!

Many thanks in advance,

Joseph


[1] http://gvsigmobileonopenmoko.wordpress.com/

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Re: Vote! Zimbra Mobile on the Openmoko

2008-11-07 Thread Joseph Reeves
Hi Sledge,

Sounds like a great project! Let me know if there's any testing or
similar you want done.

I'm currently using the Mail for Exchange application to sync my Nokia
N96 with the Zimbra system we've got here at work; it's working very
nicely and I'd love to have something similar for Openmoko. Features I
use and like:

* Synchronizing of mail and calender items (I don't use the contact
synching, although there are a couple of people here that do)
* Peak / Off Peak synching schedules

And really, that's about it. A short list for sure! My emails come
through just as text messages do and my calender is up to date.
Something simple that just works would be great :)

Joseph



2008/11/7 sledge [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hello all,

 I am to write a component for Zimbra for my study course. I would like to
 write something for openmoko (better developing on FSO i think?) could you
 guys say what would be most wanted, or at least to start with? -- because a
 guy @freenode said there are many things to do :)

 Something initiative, small, e.g. a contacts client?

 Thanks a pint for the hint :)

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 http://n2.nabble.com/Vote%21-Zimbra-Mobile-on-the-Openmoko-tp9362p1469807.html
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Re: Need help to run java apps on openmoko

2008-10-31 Thread Joseph Reeves
From memory this is, so may be completely wrong, but I'd:

opkg install --force-depends cacao
opkg install --force-depends classpath
opkg install --force-depends classpath-gtk

If I remember correctly, there was a bug in classpath that was causing
it to report a successful installation, whereas in reality it was
going wrong. Forcing all three got it to work for me.

Best of luck,



2008/10/31 Jim Ancona [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Peter Neubauer wrote:
 Mmh,
 it seems your jvm is not finding the Java base classes. Do you ave
 Classpath installed? You could try to explicitly point out the
 classes.zip file of your JRE using

 cacao -cp PATH/TO/classes.zip .jar myJar.jar

 HTH, probably others on this list know more ...

 I agree with Peter, your problem sounds CLASSPATH related. I had pretty
 good luck using Jalimo [1] to package Java apps for my Freerunner. I was
 able to run a SWT GUI app, although it was very slow.

 Jim

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Re: External wired small USB keyboard

2008-10-27 Thread Joseph Reeves
Hi Jeff,

Prices have yet to be set in stone, but we're looking for c.£40 for
the larger model, with the smaller one obviously going for less.
Stocks are unfortunately very limited at the moment - we had a lot of
interest after I first blogged about them and both ourselves and the
manufacturer were unable to keep up with demand. We've had a batch
produced for us and are awaiting delivery.

Thanks,

Joseph



2008/10/24 Jeffrey Ratcliffe [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 2008/10/24 Joseph Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 http://oadigital.net/hardware/duraflex

 Especially the smaller model:

 http://oadigital.net/hardware/duraflex/duraflex-mini

 Do you have any prices?

 Regards

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Re: External wired small USB keyboard

2008-10-27 Thread Joseph Reeves
Hi Pander,

The only LEDs are Num Lock, Caps Lock and Scroll Lock; as such in
normal operation they're unlit. I can't find it now, but I had a spec
sheet that had the power consumption listed - I'll email the list when
I've dug it up. I imagine they could be removed by the end user, but
I'm not convinced that it's something that the manufacturer should be
doing.

The meta key on our next batch will be the Windows key (they were
ordered before this discussion started). I've got a Sun keyboard on my
desk with the diamond keys on it and whilst I like the idea of
removing the Windows logo, doing so will cost (somebody) money. It's
something I will look into if demand is high; as it stands, however,
I'd rather sell all my Windows key branded keyboards first.

Cheers,

Joseph



2008/10/27 Pander [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Joseph,

 Any change to have the LEDs removed to save power consumption (and
 weight ;))?

 What will the meta key be? Can that still be that diamond square?

 Thanks,

 Pander


 Joseph Reeves wrote:
 Hi Jeff,

 Prices have yet to be set in stone, but we're looking for c.£40 for
 the larger model, with the smaller one obviously going for less.
 Stocks are unfortunately very limited at the moment - we had a lot of
 interest after I first blogged about them and both ourselves and the
 manufacturer were unable to keep up with demand. We've had a batch
 produced for us and are awaiting delivery.

 Thanks,

 Joseph



 2008/10/24 Jeffrey Ratcliffe [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 2008/10/24 Joseph Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 http://oadigital.net/hardware/duraflex

 Especially the smaller model:

 http://oadigital.net/hardware/duraflex/duraflex-mini
 Do you have any prices?

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Re: Need help to run java apps on openmoko

2008-10-24 Thread Joseph Reeves
Hi Girish,

I've been running gvSIG mobile [1], a java app, on Jalimo [2]. gvSIG
mobile isn't freely available yet, but keep an eye on
planet.openmoko.org for an announcement in the (hopefully) near
future.

Cheers,

Joseph


[1] http://gvsigmobileonopenmoko.wordpress.com/
[2] https://wiki.evolvis.org/jalimo/index.php/Main_Page






2008/10/24 Girish Revadigar [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi Max,

  Thank you for your reply. From the information on this site, looks like we
 need to do some external work to get java run on openmoko. Can you please
 suggest some java packages available which can be installed in openmoko?

 Thank you
 Girish


 On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Max Giesbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 have you checked http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Java ?

 please update if necessary...

 Girish Revadigar schrieb:
  Hi,
 
  I am new to openmoko. I want to run one of my java based GUI application
  on openmoko. But when I tried to check for the java support on the newly
  brought model, I found there is no java utility pre installed (Any JVM
  for running java apps). So can you guide me how can I set up my openmoko
  to run java applications on it? Is there any extra package I need to
  install? Please guide me, without finding it I can't proceed. Your
  valuable suggestion will be greatly helpful for me.
 
  Thank you
  Regards
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Re: External wired small USB keyboard

2008-10-24 Thread Joseph Reeves
Hi,

We don't have any with a built in USB hub, but you may be interested in:

http://oadigital.net/hardware/duraflex

Especially the smaller model:

http://oadigital.net/hardware/duraflex/duraflex-mini

Cheers,

Joseph



2008/10/24 Pander [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi all,

 I'm looking for a wired small USB keyboard to use on a Freerunner. I'm
 looking for one:
 - which is small in size, max 12 inch or 30 cm wide
 - has qwerty layout
 - has preferably no multi media buttons / hot keys
 - has preferably no LEDs
 - has a type A USB hub
 - has a mini type B USB jack

 Especially the last requirement is hard to match (find). So far I'm
 stuck with:
  http://www.fentek-ind.com/kbmsm.htm
  http://www.fentek-ind.com/kbmsmusbb2.htm
  http://www.directron.com/kl51.html
  http://www.directron.com/psk3100u.html

 Does any of you know of a keyboard matches more of the above requirements?

 Thanks,

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Re: OpenMooCow 0.1

2008-10-15 Thread Joseph Reeves
I just loaded this onto a colleagues phone - he said he wanted a cat
and suggested the name OpenMeowKo

:)



2008/10/14 Thomas White [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I'm pleased to be able to announce version 0.1 of my advanced
 accelerometer and audio framework testing system, OpenMooCow.
 Available from http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~taw27/openmoko/openmoocow/

 When installed and run, OpenMooCow displays an artistic rendition of
 a fine specimen of Friesian dairy cattle.  Invert the device and return
 it to an upright orientation to experience the pinnacle of audio
 rendering kwality.

 The sound effect can be altered by putting a suitable WAV file
 in /usr/share/openmoocow/moo.wav.  A credit is due to Chris Hendricks
 who is the author of the original sound file (obtained from
 www.flashkit.com).

 Comments/abuse to this address.

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Re: background image

2008-09-26 Thread Joseph Reeves
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Edje

I think



2008/9/26 Cédric DUFOUIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Can anybody explain where is the best way to find edje_decc ?

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Re: help building ipk packages

2008-09-26 Thread Joseph Reeves
Not using bb, but this is how I made a small ipk from source:

http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/3

Joseph



2008/9/26 Nicolas Laurance [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 hi community gurus,

 I've done my homework, at least I tried to, reading through the wiki and
 elsewhere

 http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1084542
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/BitBake_recipe
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile
 http://faassen.n--tree.net/blog/view/weblog/2007/09/26/0
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Customizing_the_Openmoko_Distribution#Adding_Python_scripts_as_applications
 http://handhelds.org/~pb/bitbake.pdf


 still building a simple package remains a mystery to me

 following the instructions of the wiki, regarding the setup of openembed
 the monotone command always fail (at least 6 retries)::

 $ mtn --db=OE.mtn pull monotone.openembedded.org org.openembedded.dev
 mtn: doing anonymous pull; use -kKEYNAME if you need authentication
 mtn: connecting to monotone.openembedded.org
 mtn: finding items to synchronize:
 mtn: certificates | keys | revisions
 mtn:   76,060 |   76 |25,058
 mtn:  bytes in | bytes out | certs in | revs in
 mtn: 1.4 M | 1.3 M |0 |   0
 mtn:  bytes in | bytes out |certs in | revs in
 mtn: 3.1 M | 1.4 M | 1,797/4,018 | 441/991
 mtn: error: I/O failure while talking to peer monotone.openembedded.org,
 disconnecting

 Time spent in user mode   (CPU seconds) : 3270.584s
 Time spent in kernel mode (CPU seconds) : 49.617s
 Total time  : 4:22:48.15s

 

 However, MY QUESTION IS :

 how can I build an ipk package out of a project source file ??

 please, can someone, give a simple example, choosing a running program
 of some kind, of the steps to follow
 the bb recipe and the procedure to produce a small ipk

 All I've found is scarecely documented, and is concerning a global image
 for the moko.

 many, many thanks

 NiL

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Re: The wifi antenna

2008-09-21 Thread Joseph Reeves
You really shouldn't be attempting any tests whilst holding any wifi
gear right next to other bits of kit. It's like getting two people to
scream in each other's ears and wondering why they didn't report a
good experiance. I'd re-run the tests from a different room to the one
the access point is in and seeing what happens then.

Joseph



2008/9/21 Yogiz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hello,

 How good is the Freerunner's wifi supposed to be. If I do an iwlist
 scan with my laptop two meters from the AP, I get link quality of
 96/100. However with the Freerunner, even if I hold it right next to
 the AP's antenna I get a maximum of 51/100. Most APs that my laptop
 finds just fine show a link quality of 0 or 1 on the FR.

 Is that just what the FR's antenna is like or should I contact my
 distributor for warranty?

 Yogiz

 P.S. I accidently sent it from a different e-mail accound previously
 but I have no idea if it came through. If it did, sorry for the
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Neopwn

2008-09-21 Thread Joseph Reeves
I'm sure others have seen the Slashdot article, but in case you haven't:

http://mobile.slashdot.org/mobile/08/09/21/1730256.shtml

I'm just looking forward to being able to download the code to run on
one of my phones :)

Joseph

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Re: A mailing list for FLOSS-GPS community?

2008-09-18 Thread Joseph Reeves
If there's enough interest in starting a mailing list we can host it @
openarchaeology.net

Let me know if that would be desired.

Joseph



On 18/09/2008, Brian Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I asked the maintainer of the freegis.org site if he knew of a list
  targeted at gps and he did not.

  I tried to post to the GPS Software Hub google group and the posting
  is being held in the moderation queue. (Moderation is fine but someone
  has to do the moderating so that the messages go out in a timely
  fashion.) I don't have a good feeling about how that group is being
  used and maybe we should not be hijacking it for software development.
  It's had more of an end-user focus.

  I am not a big fan of Google but I suggest hosting the list there
  because it actually works quite well. I especially like the RSS
  feature.

  On the other hand OSGEO is a really good group, I like there projects
  and people.
  Mapserver, GRASS, QGIs ..

  Flip a coin. You decide.

  But can we not use the word FLOSS in the group description? That
  just makes me think of dental hygiene.


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