displaying osm tiles with python/edje
Has anyone done any work to display osm tiles with python/edje? I'm working on a running[1] app and would like to record and display my track. It looks like it would be pretty easy to display a single tile, but I think displaying multiple tiles would more difficult. Thanks, Josh [1] just to be clear - running as in exercise ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is xserver-xorg-video-glamo freezy for anyone else than just me?
I'll add something to this that I was recently reminded of. The freezes occur much more frequently with GTK based apps. I have a utility sort of app I wrote that I leave running all the time. After one of the upgrades (several months ago), I noticed that elementary based apps were significantly faster than GTK ones; so, I rewrote my app in elementary. After that, the freezes didn't happen nearly as often. Last weekend, I was using a GTK based app a fair amount and experienced several freezes. Josh On Friday April 16, 2010, Josh Thompson wrote: > I occasionally encounter this and was also thinking I must have some edge > case hardware glitch since I haven't heard anyone else talk about it. In > my case, I wouldn't say it's completely random - there's always something > I do that is graphics related that causes the freeze. It's never > something repeatable, but it is always something related to the contents > of the screen being updated. I think that's what you are describing as > well. > > I've not reported it before because it is so random and difficult to debug. > I do software development professionally and know how hard it is to help > someone with a problem that can't be intentionally reproduced. > > I'm using SHR-T. The image is dated March 3rd, 2010. I downloaded it and > the "latest" kernel image at the same time on March 10th. It is kernel > version 2.6.29-rc3. This is the most stable image I have run yet. I > tried doing some upgrades at one point, but had more issues; so I > reflashed the image. With this image, I'm probably down to only having > this type of freeze maybe once every 2 weeks or so. > > I've never tried fbdev. > > If anyone of the devs have some suggestions as to how to try to debug this, > I'd be happy to try. Maybe a script that periodically gathers and saves > some data that can be reviewed after rebooting? > > Josh Thompson > > On Wednesday April 14, 2010, Neil Jerram wrote: > > I've raised this rather vaguely a couple of times before, and IIRC no > > one else said that they see similar problems. This time I'll try to > > be clear and so hopefully attract a more definitive response. > > > > Simply, whenever I try switching to glamo for a while (instead of > > fbdev), I find that my phone freezes after a while: the screen and > > buttons are unresponsive, and I can't ssh in. My only recourse is to > > pull out the battery - which is of course a concern, as I could then > > be corrupting the filesystem. > > > > It seems completely random, and not associated with any particular > > action. Today, for example, it happened very quickly after booting > > up: > > - boot up and wait for UI to appear > > - click on keyboard icon to bring up the matchbox keyboard > > - click on Ctrl, Alt, and X - which should bring up an xterm > > - freeze. > > On other occasions, that same sequence works find. Some times the > > freeze happens after a day or more of use. > > > > I see this in Debian, which is my main distro. I also see it whenever > > I decide to try SHR again - and it effectively prevents me from being > > able to try SHR for very long. (In Debian, I can just switch back to > > fbdev.) > > > > Does anyone else see this? > > If not, I'm guessing it could be caused by a specific hardware fault > > on my phone - any ideas on how I might investigate that further? > > Once in the frozen state, is there anything better/safer to do than > > pulling out the battery? > > > > Many thanks! > > > > Neil > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is xserver-xorg-video-glamo freezy for anyone else than just me?
Timo, Can you explain how to set up a watchdog daemon? It would also save wear on the back cover tabs, which I'm more concerned about than the battery contacts. :) Thanks, Josh On Wednesday April 14, 2010, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > Neil Jerram writes: > > Does anyone else see this? > > I'm personally using xserver-xorg-video-fbdev. However, even that > started to crash a few weeks ago in Xorg upgrade. The bug is > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=575521 > > > If not, I'm guessing it could be caused by a specific hardware fault > > on my phone - any ideas on how I might investigate that further? > > What kernel? > > > Once in the frozen state, is there anything better/safer to do than > > pulling out the battery? > > Run watchdog daemon. That will at least make your battery contacts > wear less :-) > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is xserver-xorg-video-glamo freezy for anyone else than just me?
I occasionally encounter this and was also thinking I must have some edge case hardware glitch since I haven't heard anyone else talk about it. In my case, I wouldn't say it's completely random - there's always something I do that is graphics related that causes the freeze. It's never something repeatable, but it is always something related to the contents of the screen being updated. I think that's what you are describing as well. I've not reported it before because it is so random and difficult to debug. I do software development professionally and know how hard it is to help someone with a problem that can't be intentionally reproduced. I'm using SHR-T. The image is dated March 3rd, 2010. I downloaded it and the "latest" kernel image at the same time on March 10th. It is kernel version 2.6.29-rc3. This is the most stable image I have run yet. I tried doing some upgrades at one point, but had more issues; so I reflashed the image. With this image, I'm probably down to only having this type of freeze maybe once every 2 weeks or so. I've never tried fbdev. If anyone of the devs have some suggestions as to how to try to debug this, I'd be happy to try. Maybe a script that periodically gathers and saves some data that can be reviewed after rebooting? Josh Thompson On Wednesday April 14, 2010, Neil Jerram wrote: > I've raised this rather vaguely a couple of times before, and IIRC no > one else said that they see similar problems. This time I'll try to > be clear and so hopefully attract a more definitive response. > > Simply, whenever I try switching to glamo for a while (instead of > fbdev), I find that my phone freezes after a while: the screen and > buttons are unresponsive, and I can't ssh in. My only recourse is to > pull out the battery - which is of course a concern, as I could then > be corrupting the filesystem. > > It seems completely random, and not associated with any particular > action. Today, for example, it happened very quickly after booting > up: > - boot up and wait for UI to appear > - click on keyboard icon to bring up the matchbox keyboard > - click on Ctrl, Alt, and X - which should bring up an xterm > - freeze. > On other occasions, that same sequence works find. Some times the > freeze happens after a day or more of use. > > I see this in Debian, which is my main distro. I also see it whenever > I decide to try SHR again - and it effectively prevents me from being > able to try SHR for very long. (In Debian, I can just switch back to > fbdev.) > > Does anyone else see this? > If not, I'm guessing it could be caused by a specific hardware fault > on my phone - any ideas on how I might investigate that further? > Once in the frozen state, is there anything better/safer to do than > pulling out the battery? > > Many thanks! > > Neil > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner
On Saturday March 06, 2010, Michal Brzozowski wrote: > 2010/2/2 Josh Thompson > > > I just tested this on another computer, and the USB networking worked > > fine. > > > > How do I change it to use the usb_storage gadget instead? Previously, I > > just > > rmmoded the g_ether gadget and modprobed the g_file_storage one. > > Depending on my need, I switch back and forth between these two. > > Did you figure out how to do this? I need to use my FR with WinXP as a > storage device and am stuck to this kernel. Unfortunately, no I didn't. I'm still hoping someone that knows more about usb gadgets will figure it out. Josh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner
On Sat January 30 2010 2:48:07 am Timo Jyrinki wrote: > 2010/1/29 Josh Thompson : > > Thanks for providing this kernel. I've been very happy with the > > speedups. > > I was happy to be the messenger towards the community list. > > > However, I seem to be missing the usb gadget kernel modules. I can't > > seem to find them, and I'd like to be able to use the usb networking and > > mass storage modules. Are they available somewhere? Are they built in > > and I just don't know how to activate them? > > Most are built-in. In case you took the latest version (with the wlan > problem workaround), the configuration as a whole is available at > http://users.tkk.fi/~tajyrink/moko/kernel_20100108_nodebug_nopreempt/config >-95ca9febb8552953 - including USB gadget drivers that are built in. At least > on my > Debian USB networking works just fine. > > -Timo I just tested this on another computer, and the USB networking worked fine. How do I change it to use the usb_storage gadget instead? Previously, I just rmmoded the g_ether gadget and modprobed the g_file_storage one. Depending on my need, I switch back and forth between these two. Thanks, Josh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner
Timo, Thanks for providing this kernel. I've been very happy with the speedups. However, I seem to be missing the usb gadget kernel modules. I can't seem to find them, and I'd like to be able to use the usb networking and mass storage modules. Are they available somewhere? Are they built in and I just don't know how to activate them? Thanks, Josh On Friday January 08, 2010, Timo Jyrinki wrote: > Hi, > > Just FYI to the community list, as slowness has been one of the > biggest problems with Neo. Quite nice speedups are coming: > > http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2010-January/010811.htm >l (performance testing by Gennady Kupava) > > Apparently, and unfortunately, no-one had really questioned Om Inc:s > (who mainly did the kernel work back in the days of the still mostly > used 2.6.29) choices of kernel configuration. Disabling kernel debug > features and pre-empt has resulted eg. these kind of improvements > (from IRC, #openmoko-fi): > - boot time 68.5% of original > - "apt-cache search nano" 20s -> 14.8s > - "emacs -f kill-emacs" 3.8s -> 2.2s > > These configuration changes are not yet in andy-tracking (the 2.6.29 > kernel still being used in most distros), I don't know what's the > situation in the new om-2.6.32 branch. Together with the quite recent > commit from Thomas White that doubled theoretical glamo speeds (in > practice at least 20% in general), I feel that Neo FreeRunner is not > anymore "terribly slow", but only "slow" by today's standards, which > is quite an improvement. Especially after having been used to the > "terribly slow" general behavior ;) > > Please tell if some distro happened to have those disabled already, > and if someone knew about these speedups via the options already - and > please arrange a commit to git.openmoko.org next time! Anyway, this > all goes to show that in a project with limited resources like > Openmoko, especially now that it's completely in the hands of the > community when it comes to Neo FreeRunner development, you have to > have the courage to question anything "suspicious" etc. you are > seeing, not trusting that someone has actually optimized something to > the extent assumed. > > If you want to have a quick grab of the new kernel for Debian (or any > distro that loads uImage from a file), I put my compilation of kernel > and modules to > http://users.tkk.fi/~tajyrink/moko/kernel_20100108_nodebug_nopreempt/ > > -Timo, wishing everyone a speedier new year > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: thanks to authors of Podboy, NIDE, and openmokontrol
On Mon January 25 2010 6:39:13 pm Denis Johnson wrote: > On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Josh Thompson > > wrote: > > NIDE is working really well to control MythTV. I had been thinking of > > writing something to control it via MythTV's remote control interface. > > This works just as well and works for other apps too. > > I have wanted to get NIDE running on my QTMoko to also control my > MythTV but I'm stuggling to find working any of the feed or package > links on the NIDE page, what's the secret ? > > cheers Denis I'm using SHR-testing and used the feed from the wiki page. I have version 0.01-r0 installed from around a week ago. Josh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: thanks to authors of Podboy, NIDE, and openmokontrol
On Tue January 26 2010 2:20:34 am lars poulsen wrote: > I really like the responsiveness of the application. If only it was > not written in python i think flowers would be blooming and spring > would be coming early. I was rather surprised that it is in python given how responsive it is. I'm kind of glad it is in python so that I can use it as an example of how to do a good python-elementary app. :) Josh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
thanks to authors of Podboy, NIDE, and openmokontrol
I just wanted to say thanks to the authors of 3 different applications I have started using recently. Podboy is fitting my need extremely well for listening to podcasts. I can't say how great this app is! :) NIDE is working really well to control MythTV. I had been thinking of writing something to control it via MythTV's remote control interface. This works just as well and works for other apps too. I just tried openmokontrol for playing Tux Racer. That was really cool! Now, I just need to set things up to start Tux Racer with NIDE and then run openmokontrol to control it. Thanks a bunch! Josh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: elm_browser and https
On Friday January 22, 2010, Xavier Cremaschi wrote: > c_c a écrit : > > @Xavier Cremaschi - can you tell me what happens? Try running the > > browser from the terminal to see if webkit throws up any debug messages. > > I see nothing in terminal : > > r...@om-gta02 ~ $ browser > restoring state > db ver 1 > showing window > Error #0 while loading the group 'scrollbar.vertical'. > Error #0 while loading the group 'scrollbar.vertical'. > > Symptoms : I can't follow any https link (click = no action) I was having the same problem and launched browser with strace. I found I was just missing /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt. I copied that in from my desktop machine. After that, I was able to access https sites. Josh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[any] formatting text in python elementary buttons
I'm converting a small app I wrote in python-gtk to use python-elementary. I had some buttons where I was using set_use_markup on a button's label to do things like setting the font color and background. I can't find a way to do that with python-elementary. Is there a way to do so? If there is, where should I look for more info on it? I've been using the source control browsing for python-elementary[1] and looking at shr-settings as a guide so far. Thanks, Josh [1] http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/BINDINGS/python/python-elementary/elementary/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is a FreeRunner sufficient for me?
On Wednesday June 17, 2009, Brolin Empey wrote: > * textual notes (so I don’t have to keep track of lots of paper notes), I wrote pynotes: http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/pynotes/ ipk here: http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/746/pynotes_0.1_arm.ipk as a replacement for Palm's Memos app. It also includes a python script that can be used in conjunction with pilot-link's pilot-memos utility to import your memos from your palm. I haven't gotten around to getting it up at opkg.org. If anyone wants to do that, feel free. Josh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] Suggested IMAP client?
I wrote a very basic imap mail reader (can't compose messages yet) app in python/GTK. You can find a little more about it here: http://people.engr.ncsu.edu/jfthomps/freerunner/ It starts with a screen listing all of the configured imap servers. Clicking on one changes the window to be a display of all of your mail folders on that server. Clicking on a folder changes the window to be a display listing the messages in the folder (from/subject/date). Clicking on a message changes the window to display the message body. There's a back button that is always displayed at the top that lets you go back to the previous screen. I don't have much time to develop right now, but if there is anyone else that would like to take what I started and add some more features to it, I'll apply to get it started at projects.openmoko.org. Josh On Mon March 23 2009 7:12:40 am Jan Keymeulen wrote: > On Sat 21 March 2009 om 07:36:52 GMT William Kenworthy told us: > > Yes, this would be nice. In the meantime, Ive fallen back to > > squirrelmail on my webserver and midori to read it on the FR. Works ok, > > but is there a better webmail more suited to a small screen? > > I use MIMP, part of the Horde framework. http://www.horde.org/mimp/ > > However, a real mail client would be vey nice. > > > On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 17:29 -0400, Cameron Frazier wrote: > > > As per the subject, is there a suggested IMAP client for the FR? I'm > > > using SHR-Unstable at the moment, but I figure it's a reasonable > > > question for all distros. > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > Cameron ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[shr-unstable] no luncher icons
I recently did an upgrade after which I have nothing but the top bar in the launcher window when using the "Icons" mode. I can see stuff using the "Slider" mode, but find it very difficult to use. I've tried using each of the different icon sizes, but that didn't help. Removing my .e directory didn't fix it either. I can ssh in and run things successfully. Any ideas how to get this functionality back? Thanks Josh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QWO (was Re: handwriting recognition)
On Thu January 15 2009 3:06:37 pm Johny Tenfinger wrote: > On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 20:38, Josh Thompson wrote: > > Anyone know how to make it show up in SHR? > > Check .desktop file if have "Keyboard" (but i'm not sure that it's > correct name) category, and select it in Keyboard menu after clicking > Illume's wrench on top shelf. > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Thanks - that's what I needed! I've started using qwo and really like it. Josh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QWO (was Re: handwriting recognition)
On Thursday January 15, 2009, DJDAS wrote: > arne anka ha scritto: > >> I use QWO since December and I feel very nice with it, forgot any other > >> keyboard and dictionariesvery good input method. > > > > what's qwo? the qtopia one? > > > > _ > > Nope, look at this: http://www.nongnu.org/qwo/ > Bye :) On what distro are you using QWO? I just tried it on SHR, and nothing ever shows up. If I ssh in to my FR with my display forwarded to my desktop and run it, it seems to work ok. Anyone know how to make it show up in SHR? Josh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car Charger?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday January 04, 2009, lollisoft wrote: > Another question: Does someone have seen a docking station like item to > place the phone when driving > with navigation. This could also have a built in car charger :-) I use this this model: http://www.extremepda.com/AUTOMOUNT-GN-LG.html It has a 9" flexible gooseneck mount and suctions to the windshield. With the feet switched to the other end from the default configuration (i.e. making the release button on the top end), it works out that the headphone jack and the USB jack can be accessed through the holes in the arms. Josh -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFJb3C8V/LQcNdtPQMRAi3iAJ0WiNxWCALYXpbr5dFlx7cMUk2evQCeMXb2 027gwcUPBu8XnXQ2WEB2How= =FPei -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2007.2 fr] boot prolems
Harry, Welcome to Openmoko community. On Fri January 9 2009 7:45:25 pm Harry L. Lee wrote: > however I cannot successfully press and hold aux then press power to get to > the boot menu. > > i'm pretty creative about solving you only have one hand problems, but i > haven't been able to beat this one. before you try to tell me "just do > this", pleas try your method with your left (more accurately, non-dominant) > hand in its pocket (you'd be amazed how many things you use both for > without realizing. I had to work on this on for a bit. I've pressed both buttons many times when holding the FR in my left hand. The button orientation doesn't work out as well for that when I switch it to my right hand. That is, until I realized turning it over would orient the buttons the same way as if it were in my left hand. So, give this a try. Hold the FR in your hand with the screen facing away from you (ie, you are looking right at the "openmoko" written on the back) with your thumb on the AUX button and all 4 fingers basically next to each other on the other side (side with the power button). When I hold it that way, my ring finger naturally ends up on the power button. Then, press and hold the AUX button with your thumb and then press the power button for about 2 seconds. Then, you should be able to run dfu-util. Also, I realized I could flip my hand over while holding it this way and still see a bit of the screen to know when I had held the buttons long enough. > it seems there should be a relatively simple software based solution to > this problem. the boot menu is just a program, somewhere (I assume in what > a dinosaur like me would think of as) the computer's memory space. it would > seem if you knew where it was, you could use a debugger to jump to that > location and begin execution. it would seem a shell script could accomplish > that, or even a small binary executable. if some om zen master could either > point out why that wouldn't work, or whip up the appropiate tool, i''d be > eternally grateful. That's the kind of thinking I like to see! :) Though, I have no idea how to go about doing this. Josh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[debian/FSO/other?] some simple scripts I've developed
I've written a few scripts to help manage some things on my Freerunner. I'm sharing them in case anyone else might find them useful to either use or just see as a reference for how to code something themselves. One is a very simple IMAP mail reader program. The rest are a set of scripts mainly written to provide a GUI interface to several command only type things. They also handle things like dimming the screen and powering on/off wifi. I initially started writing them on 2007.2 but updated most of it to work on debian which is what I use now. More info about them can be found here along with download links: http://people.engr.ncsu.edu/jfthomps/freerunner/ Here are some things the collection of scripts can do: -launcher tab to easily launch most common apps; it only lists apps that have "Main" as a category in the .desktop file -wifi power on/off and ifup/ifdown eth0 -misc tab to do things like view battery status, change screen brightness, launch xkill, change usbmode, change screen orientation; really anything I need a button to do, I put here -"lock" tab that is mostly blank (so nothing accidentally gets run) with a really small enable/disable lock button at the bottom; I've since switched to just having the desktop get displayed for my "lock" mode, but the enable/disable button still works Josh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
armband
Has anyone tried to find an armband for holding your Freerunner while exercising? Comparing dimensions to other devices, it seems closest to an 80GB Zune. So, I'm thinking that might work. I realize I'll probably have to cut at least one hole in it for the headphone jack. Does anyone have a Zune armband they could try sticking their Freerunner in? Any other ideas? Thanks, Josh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fennec on Openmoko
For anyone else like myself that's not using the debian distro, I was able to download the debian package files for Midori (armel version) from http://packages.debian.org/unstable/web/midori to an Ubuntu box, extract them from the deb file dpkg -x create a tarball, copy that over to my FR and extract it. I also had to download the package for libgtksourceview to get it to work. I'm using 2007.2. I do have a problem when I click Go->Location... that I can't see whereever I'm supposed to enter the URL. However, if I just type it in using the keyboard followed by Enter, it will go to the URL. Josh On Wednesday 27 August 2008 6:10:10 am Michele Renda wrote: > Yes, I have the same impession too > > I used the ipk version of Midori (Om 2008.8) and I realy did't liked it, > but then I used the Debian + XFCE + Midori: It is wonderful! Not too > > I was able to see www.alitalia.it, that is a site problematic in > computers, it render perfect on midori. > > I used it on everyday use. > > budfive wrote: > > I just looked through several browsers for something that is useable. The > > conclusion I reached is that the debian packaged copy of midori is > > excellent. And not just excellent compared with the other browsers or > > compared with what was considered useful on openmoko so far. It is > > actually very functional and very fast. If you have had a bad experience > > with midori using openmoko's packages, try it again with debian. You will > > be very pleasantly surprised. This actually gives me a reason to carry > > the freerunner with me. Get it. Get it now. > > > > Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > >> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 04:37:25PM +0200, Fox Mulder wrote: > >>> At the moment i got iceweasel running on my debian freerunner. It is > >>> also a firefox port which works great. I could use any original addon > >>> from mozilla. :) > >>> Maybe it is a bit slow when starting but at the moment it is the best > >>> browser i found for my neo. > >>> But you are right. In the future i hope there will be a bit more > >>> lightweight mobile version of the firefox. > >> > >> I viciously hate my experience with midori and openmoko-browser :) > >> > >> Rui > >> > >> -- > >> Keep the Lasagna flying! > >> Today is Boomtime, the 18th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 > >> + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown > >> + Whatever you do will be insignificant, > >> > >> | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi > >> > >> + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Chancing SIM card without reboot
I've done this several times with no problems so far. Josh On Monday August 25, 2008, Fredrik Wendt wrote: > Hi. > > Just wanted to know if I'd damage the hardware by doing: > > 0. Connect FR to computer using USB cable. > 1. Turn on FR (FSO-testing), fire up zhone. > 2. Open FR, remove battery, open SIM pocket, change SIM card, replace > battery, replace back cover - all while the FR is running off power from > USB > > In Sweden we have three GSM network operators (those with licenses to > actually put GSM equipment to use) and having to wait 3-4 minutes after > each SIM change really kills productivity and flow ... > > / Fredrik ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fennec on Openmoko
+1 I looked in to compiling it enough to find out it's complicated enough that I won't have the time to get it done any time soon. I'd love to see it happen though. Josh On Monday August 25, 2008, Alasal wrote: > I think it should be great if we could get Fennec (the firefox mobile > browser) on the Openmoko phones. First we get an very actively developed > browser on the Openmoko and we can help testing the direction of the > firefox mobile in real. (So the fennec developers get input on their > design) > > I think we and the fennec people can benefit from this. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: any update on GSM interference issue
On Monday August 04, 2008, Andy Green wrote: > AFAIK in hardware this should be possible -- BT audio comes in on "VX" > digital interface of WM8753 and there should be a path to get in and out > of that to RXN/P pair and MONO1/2 pair. So, I found this: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_1973_audio_subsystem Now, I'm starting to understand what a lot of those setting in alsamixer mean. Does anyone know how much of the "ALSA Channels" diagram has changed for the FR? It seems there are 3 steps to getting a bluetooth headset to work for making calls. 1) connect the headset to the phone 2) route the audio correctly through the WM8753 so that it runs between the bluetooth device and the GSM. 3) configure the PCM coming from the WM8753 to be the right format for going to the bluetooth device. Directions for step 1 seem to be here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_Bluetooth#Headset_Audio Although, I'm not sure how the python script plays into things. Direction for step 2 seem to be on the audio subsystem page listed above using the asound.state file (http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/%7Egg/neo1973/gsmbluetooth.state) as a starting point. I guess step 3 is solved with the bluetooth_pcm.c file that is linked to on the same page. Unfortunately, I don't have much time to work on this. Hopefully, this will help someone else move things along. Josh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS rework: Please test and report on software fix prior to attempting any hardware fix
Could we get a link to some image files to use for this testing? I'm not quite sure when Andy's fix made it in the kernel. It would also help standardize the tests if we all use the same images. Josh On Mon August 4 2008 7:29:17 pm Michael Shiloh wrote: > Before we conclude that the hardware fix is required, we'd really like > to gather a lot of statistics from you about the behavior of the > software fix. We have been able to test in only a limited number of > locations, and a limited number of phones. > > We'd like to ask you to run some tests and report back the TTFF in each > case: > > 1. Prior to Andy's software fix > 1a. Without SD card > 1b. With SD card > > 2. Using Andy's software fix > 2a. Without SD card > 2b. With SD card > > Preferably run this test in multiple locations. > > Results should be reported on a wiki page, which should include your > location (so we can assess other influences e.g. satellite elevation and > weather conditions) > > Thanks, > Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
any update on GSM interference issue
Has there been any progress on the GSM interference issue (bug #883)? As I understand it, this is the current condition (please correct anything that is wrong): -only some people seem to have a problem with it -the buzzing is only heard by people on the other end -it is a hardware issue -it is being looked in to by the OpenMoko team -it is affected by how much power the FR is having to use to reach the tower (i.e. better signal strength -> less buzzing) Has anyone gotten a bluetooth headset (SCO type) to work with the 2007.2 distro for making calls? If so, how did you do it, and did it fix this interference issue? This issue is the only thing keeping me from using my FR as my primary phone. Josh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: no sd card and slow start times
Replying to myself here. I flashed the device with the default image and was able to get things working again. I did discover that the "Please wait" part was from openmoko-today seg faulting. Josh On Fri July 18 2008 4:11:49 pm Josh Thompson wrote: > I cannot seem to get my sd card mounted. Before using it in my freerunner, > I put it in the adapter and copied some stuff to it using my laptop. I've > done an upgrade on the system today. I never tried it before upgrading. > It never gets mounted anywhere under /media or /mnt. I don't see anything > about it in /proc/partitions. Is there a certain kernel module that needs > to be inserted? > > Also, starting sometime today (probably around upgrading it), I've been > getting stuck on the start screen where it has the openmoko log and > says "Please wait..." for a long time whenever it boots (long being > 5 > minutes). The applet icons are there and the power and aux buttons bring > up their respective menus. I can shell in to it over usb. Running top > shows pretty minimal usage (10-15%) with neod and pulseaudio being the top > processes. Any ideas? > > > Thanks so much to the Openmoko team for such a great device! > > Josh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: service with NorthState in NC
Just to follow up - I received a new SIM card with the same specs as my old one, and it worked fine. Josh On Thu July 17 2008 2:44:15 pm steve wrote: > New SIM is your best bet. > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Josh Thompson > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 8:22 AM > To: community@lists.openmoko.org > Subject: service with NorthState in NC > > I'm sending this just in case there is someone trying to use a FreeRunner > with service from NorthState Communications in North Carolina. They are a > reseller of AT&T service. I know they used to own the cell towers in their > area. I'm not sure if they still do. > > I can't get my phone to register with their network. When I use > 'libgsmd-tool -m shell' to try to force registration, I get the > following: > > # r > Register > EVENT: Netreg searching for network > EVENT: Netreg registration denied > cme error: 32 > > Here is info on my SIM card: > > from AT&T > has the blazing 3G fireball > 5 digit SKU: 71234 > Manufacturer Code: G > 4 digit Vendor/Version: 3022 > > I tried a friend's SIM card out of his blackberry with service directly > from AT&T, and it worked perfectly. It has the exact same specs as mine. > > I talked with customer service who didn't think there was much they could > do. > They tried doing something with the IMEI number from my FreeRunner which > didn't work. > > They're sending me a new SIM card to try, but the tech I talked with said > she didn't think that would help. > > If anyone has any suggestions, please pass them along! > > Thanks, > Josh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
no sd card and slow start times
I cannot seem to get my sd card mounted. Before using it in my freerunner, I put it in the adapter and copied some stuff to it using my laptop. I've done an upgrade on the system today. I never tried it before upgrading. It never gets mounted anywhere under /media or /mnt. I don't see anything about it in /proc/partitions. Is there a certain kernel module that needs to be inserted? Also, starting sometime today (probably around upgrading it), I've been getting stuck on the start screen where it has the openmoko log and says "Please wait..." for a long time whenever it boots (long being > 5 minutes). The applet icons are there and the power and aux buttons bring up their respective menus. I can shell in to it over usb. Running top shows pretty minimal usage (10-15%) with neod and pulseaudio being the top processes. Any ideas? Thanks so much to the Openmoko team for such a great device! Josh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
service with NorthState in NC
I'm sending this just in case there is someone trying to use a FreeRunner with service from NorthState Communications in North Carolina. They are a reseller of AT&T service. I know they used to own the cell towers in their area. I'm not sure if they still do. I can't get my phone to register with their network. When I use 'libgsmd-tool -m shell' to try to force registration, I get the following: # r Register EVENT: Netreg searching for network EVENT: Netreg registration denied cme error: 32 Here is info on my SIM card: from AT&T has the blazing 3G fireball 5 digit SKU: 71234 Manufacturer Code: G 4 digit Vendor/Version: 3022 I tried a friend's SIM card out of his blackberry with service directly from AT&T, and it worked perfectly. It has the exact same specs as mine. I talked with customer service who didn't think there was much they could do. They tried doing something with the IMEI number from my FreeRunner which didn't work. They're sending me a new SIM card to try, but the tech I talked with said she didn't think that would help. If anyone has any suggestions, please pass them along! Thanks, Josh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
