Re: removing the Sudoku package

2008-12-11 Thread Julian Chu
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 05:07:47PM +0100, Carlo Minucci wrote:
 Joseph Reeves ha scritto:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#opkg list_installed | grep sudoku
  pyefl-sudoku - 0.0.2+svnr49-r1.01 -
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~9#opkg remove pyefl-sudoku
 
 no, don't work
 because depend of another package (i don't remember the name)
 i have use the installer gui (click in bottom installer) for uninstall
 

Hi Joseph,

If I recall correctly, task-openmoko-asu depends on pyefl-sudoku.

you can force remove pyefl-sudoku on no risk.

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Re: 2008.8 update

2008-08-28 Thread Julian Chu
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 11:21:40AM +0200, Yorick Moko wrote:
 Just for clarity's sake:
 When using Om2008.8-upgrade, which feeds do we need to use?
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/
 or zecke's feeds?
 
 or do we have to wait a little bit?
 thanks
 y
 
Hi,
Basically, the repository is same as zecke's feeds.
The repository on downloads.openmoko.org which
bulit everyday from a Om2008.8 (ASU-stable).

You can change your feed to refer to 
http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/

By the way, you can see the Testing branch is a mess. Cause we
are still working on that.

We will focus on om-dev branch in the feature. Therefore the
feed, Om2008.8, won't change fast right now.

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Re: Repository and Images

2008-08-28 Thread Julian Chu
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 01:15:30PM +0200, julien cubizolles wrote:
 Le mardi 26 août 2008 à 21:07 +0800, Julian Chu a écrit :
 
  
Holger did some changes in ASU-stable branch. We built it and put on
downloads.openmoko.org.[2]
  
[2]http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8-update/
 Does this mean that it includes the fix to ticket #1766 ?
 
 Julien.

Hi Julien, I am Julian.

As far as I know, Zecke did a commit and trying to fix it.
(the revision of qtopia-phone-x11 is 9971aa8a...)

As Yorick's report in Trac, it seems didn't be fixed yet.

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Re: Repository and Images

2008-08-28 Thread Julian Chu
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 10:01:59AM -0600, Vince M. Clark wrote:
 Great work on the repositories. Thank you. 
 
 One question for clarification. To use testing or dev repositories would I 
 first install the updated stable image and then use test or dev repositories 
 for updates? 

Hi,
As the name of the repository, it is still on Testing.
It is not recommend to use it unless you are hardcore
developer.

If you really wants to use the repository, download the image in
http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/
and install the qtopia stuffs :)

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Re: which updates for Om 2008.8 ? - Was: Re: Repository and Images

2008-08-28 Thread Julian Chu
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 12:06:07AM +0200, Olivier Berger wrote:
 Olivier Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Well, actually, I had a network problem, and made a false assumption
 on that. opkg does indeed upgrade now the network is configured OK.
 
  I'm puzzled... How is one supposed to upgrade from the initial 2008.8
  ? re-flash the daily built stable ?
 
 
 I suppose the upgrade path is clear, then : opkg update + opkg upgrade
 with feeds from [3].
 
 Sorry about bothering.
 
 Still, this may be helpful though :
 
  Is there a changelog of bugs fixed somewhere ?
 
 
 I'll try and update the wiki unless someone's quicker in doing so.
 
 Best regards,

Hi Olivier,
   Thanks for your work :-)

   is the git log helps you?
   http://git.openmoko.org/?p=openmoko.git;a=log;h=org.openmoko.asu.stable

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Re: Repository and Images

2008-08-28 Thread Julian Chu
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 11:57:37PM +0930, Rod Whitby wrote:
 
 Will you be autobuilding from the OE git repository or the OM git
 repository?
 
 If the latter, will non-Openmoko staff have commit rights?
 
 If not, then we will still need autobuilders for the community
 distributions, since there is no automatic syncing from repositories
 with community commit rights to the Openmoko repository as far as I am
 aware.
 
 -- Rod
 

Hi Rod,

   We auto-build from OM git tree.
   And we still trying to make it close to OE git tree.

   If the non-Openmoko staff means some project from community, we have
   a community repository.

   http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Multiverse/

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Repository and Images

2008-08-26 Thread Julian Chu
Hi Community,

   As I mentioned in the previous mail[1] , we did some works.

   [1]:http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-August/026491.html

   *) A new 2008.8 stable image

  Holger did some changes in ASU-stable branch. We built it and put on
  downloads.openmoko.org.[2]

  [2]http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8-update/

  Oh, it's daily build.

   *) The repository of 2008.8
  After the building process complete, we also sync the repository[3]
  People can upgrade from there.

  [3] http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/

   *) Base Images and repository
  We have a base image. It is minimal image plus Window
  Manager(e-wm), Om-settings and Om-installer.

  We built the image[4] from org.openmoko.dev git branch without AUTOREV.
  And we have the testing[5] and unstable[6] repository
  We built testing repository without AUTOREV.
  We built unstable repository with AUTOREV.
  Yes, they use the same branch, org.openmoko.dev.

  [4] http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/
  [5] http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/
  [6] http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/

  We hope poeple can use the image to install some packages and get
  the power of ASU or FSO or what else in the feature.

  We know that there are still some problems and we are still working
  on that. All we did is for that we hope people can choice what
  they want.


   More informations

  *) All repositories are going to place in downloads.openmoko.org.
 We will shut down the http interface recently.

  *) When and how do we get Stable branch.

 Once we pass the QA from testing team, we have it.
 However, we need a new testing plan and it is on the way.

Best Regards,

-Julian

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Re: which updates for Om 2008.8 ?

2008-08-13 Thread Julian Chu
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 10:34:04AM +0930, Rod Whitby wrote:
 Holger Freyther wrote:
  http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1809
 
  Please fix that ticket.
  
  You are right, this ticket needs to be fixed and it is on the way. One part 
  of 
  the fix would be to remove the daily feed just now.
 
 Seriously, now that you have graciously provided a temporary correct
 daily feed of Om2008.08, I would strongly recommend removing the
 incorrect one.  First, do no harm.
 Understood.  Thanks for letting us know that a decision has been made
 and it's now just a matter of implementation.
 
 -- Rod

Hi,
I am the leader of building stuff.

We did a release in 2008.8 then provide a stable feed.
Buidhost is a building machine that build many things with
AUTOREV. That means everything comes from buildhost is *Unstable*

We provide buildhost for the reason that we hopes we can provide
latest packages for someone who like fresh.

Right now it confused many people, we know that and are going to
shut down the http interface.

Many people concern about 2008.8 repository. Let me explain what we
are going to do.

*) Provide three repositories
   1) unstable
   2) testing
   3) stable

   _unstable_ is most likely the buildhost right now. And then pick up
   something into _testing_, after it pass QA, it go to stable.

 *) All repositories are in downloads.openmoko.org

No buildhost-http anymore.
Both of the building machine (in Germany and Taipei) will sync
the their packages to downloads.openmoko.org.

 
 More details

 2008.8 image come from a branch named *org.openmoko.asu.stable* [1]
 In the previous work flow, developer commit his change into
 *org.openmoko.asu.dev* [2], and pick up to *org.openmoko.asu.stable*
 (if Holger thinks it didn't break anything) to do a full test.

 Buildhost build packages from org.openmoko.dev [3]

 [1] 
http://git.openmoko.org/?p=openmoko.git;a=shortlog;h=org.openmoko.asu.stable
 [2] 
http://git.openmoko.org/?p=openmoko.git;a=shortlog;h=org.openmoko.asu.dev
 [3] http://git.openmoko.org/?p=openmoko.git;a=shortlog;h=org.openmoko.dev

 Right now we are merging back from *org.openmoko.asu.dev* to
 *org.openmoko.dev*. Developers will work on this branch.

 The situation is that most people want 2008.8 feed as soon as
 possible. However, it hard to provide a stable branch right now.
 I will set the building machine to build _stable feed_ from
 *org.openmoko.asu.stable*. But it won't forward too fast until we
 finish the merge-back task.

 What we are doing
 *) Setup the building machine to build *org.openmoko.asu.stable*
for porviding a 2008.8 feed.

 *) Merge back from *org.openmoko.asu.dev* to *org.openmoko.dev*


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-Julian

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Re: Om 2008.8 Multiverse repository bug

2008-08-11 Thread Julian Chu
On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 03:25:53PM -0700, abatrour wrote:
 
 I noticed while editing a part on the wiki that the url for the multiverse
 repository (/etc/opkg/Multiverse-feed.conf) for Om 2008.8 was wrong.
 
 
 src/gz daily-Multiverse http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/multiverse
 
 The problem was the M in Multiverse. It should be uppercase.

Hi Abatrour,

   could you please tell me which page has the worng URL ?
 
Thank you :-)

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Re: Where is it?

2008-08-11 Thread Julian Chu
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 07:08:15PM +0200, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
 Am Sonntag 10 August 2008 17:46:22 schrieb Scott:
  I used the spiffy new installer to install xterm.  The install went
  without any errors.  Where is it?  Its not on the main page?   Its
  listed in the uninstall list of the installer?
 
 Sounds like the package is missing a proper .desktop file.
 

Yes

The source didn't provide the .desktop file.
I will fix it as soon as possible.

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Re: Any information about illume and edj files available?

2008-08-11 Thread Julian Chu
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 06:04:59PM +0200, Rorschach wrote:
 Hi,
 are there any informations about illume and how to create/modify edj files? I 
 want to make assassin a normal application with a normal starter and without 
 this starter always on the bottom but those useless +++ sign and this things. 
 But it seems there are absolutly no information about illume available?
 
 Can someone point me to or give me some information about illume?


Hi Rorschach,

   You could try to use edje_decc to decompile edj file.

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Re: Feed updates

2008-08-11 Thread Julian Chu
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 02:15:20PM +0200, Norbert Hartl wrote:
 Since the release of Om2008.8 there were IMHO no further updates
 over the feeds. Is this caused by the hard-earned rest of the
 exhausted developers or has development switched to a dev branch/feed?
 
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Hi Norbert,

   We will keep update the feeds to bring the bug fix :-)

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Re: opkg can't update in om2008.8?

2008-08-08 Thread Julian Chu
On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 06:22:46PM +0530, rakshat hooja wrote:
 Rakshat
 
 On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Dietz Proepper 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  opkg update on my freshly flashed om 2008.8 seems to
  be unable to get new packages. The download works ok but then
  it says Failed to download etc.:
 
 
 is it pinging? You will need to edit /etc/resolv.comf with the correct
 nameserver address again.
 
 Rakshat

Yes, Thanks for reply.

you can try something like that

echo nameserver 168.95.1.1/etc/resolv.conf 


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Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

2008-08-08 Thread Julian Chu
On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 02:27:41PM +0200, Yorick Moko wrote:
 a tar.gz file would be very useful for booting from SD card...
 

Hi,
I put the tar.gz file and hopes it helps  :-)

http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8/Om2008.8.rootfs.tar.gz

by the way, is uboot file necessary ?

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Re: Public build host (proposal)

2008-07-24 Thread Julian Chu
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 02:25:30PM +0200, Christ van Willegen wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:18 PM, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  the idea crossed my mind too the other day.
  would be a nice thing to have but of course it requires rather much
  attention (far from everything in the sources buids actually and updating
  w/ mokomakefile seems absolutely not to pull in the newest code).
 
 Well, I'd be the one building my own code. The build host 'only' needs
 to be up to date wrt. the compilers and openembedded stuff. No need to
 build 'all the code all day'.
 
 Christ
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Hi Christ,

   If you only wants to build your own project, I recommend you to use
   meta-toolchain.

   OpenEmbedded builds everything even if you only trying to build
   Hellworld.

   If you still wants to use OE, turn off AUTOREV may be a good try.

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Re: Public build host (proposal)

2008-07-24 Thread Julian Chu
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 07:27:37AM +0200, Christ van Willegen wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 2:16 AM, Marek Lindner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I tried to tell you a few times, but I'll rephrase.
 
 I have an iMac G5, rev C (with iSight built-in). That is a PowerPC64
 architecture.
 
 - There is no native Mokomakefile support for this machine
 - I tried running VirtualPC to emulate an i386 processor so that I
 could install Ubuntu. This works, but is _terribly_ slow. Also,
 getting Ubuntu 8 on it is something I didn't try. But, building
 Mokomakefile took days to get to step 1500.
 - I eventually found out how to install Debian etch on my PC
 (natively), but running Mokomakefile's 'make build-devel-image' gave
 me an error 'don't know what to do with powerpc64 architecture'.
 - The toolchain explicitly states that it needs i386. I could build
 from source, but openmokoui-2.0-dev is also only available for i386.
 
 Well, that's about it :-) A simple Ubuntu- or Debian-machine 'out
 there' on the Internet with up-to-date bild env and the poosibility to
 scp files over would be ideal now :-)
 
 I hope this sums up the problems well enough.
 
 Christ van Willegen

Hi Christ,

   Sorry I didn't see this mail before I reply the previous mail.

   Right now we only build images and toolchain on x86.
   Maybe you can discuss this issue on the mailing list of OpenEmbedded.
   Paste your error message and ask for someone who has experience on
   this :-)

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Re: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May)

2008-05-14 Thread Julian
Guillaume Chereau :
 
 It worked on my computer, but I check again now and you are right : it
 uses the host header files. It just appends to work on my computer
 because I have all the header files in my host computer already (for
 example in your case I think you need to install the package
 libglib2.0-dev)
 Maybe there is a problem with the toolchain pkg-config ?
 
 - Gui

Thank you friends,

Right, We also found the problem after release.
We should put pkg-config into meta-toolchain to solve it.

John Lee is working this. :-)

Cheers,

-Julian



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Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May)

2008-05-11 Thread Julian
Hi all,

 After fix some problems, I had put the newest meta toolchain to
downloads.openmoko.org.

 If you are developing a single application, you can use meta-toolchain
to build your onw application.

 please take a look of this Page.

 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain

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Re: Is svn.openmoko.org unstable?

2008-05-02 Thread Julian
Thomas Jensen 提到:
 fre, 02 05 2008 kl. 05:48 +0200, skrev Joachim Steiger:
 Today I got my other computer back from service, and with that one I had
 no problems getting the files. If I get troubles again I will try
 the https:// trick.
 
 I have a running openmoko qemu, next step is to learn to use the
 toolchain. Is this the list to ask for help about setting up things, ask
 trivial newbie questions etc.? Is there a better place?
 
 Maybe someone can point me to some good starting points?
 
 My goal is to write a few simple stand-alone applications to run on
 Freerunner, not doing hardcore system programming. I am familiar with C,
 and I have started reading a book about GTK+ development. 
 
 Thanks...
 

There is a tutorial on wiki about Toolchain.
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain

However, the toolchain is too old.
I am trying to build new toolchain , there is some problem with it.
If I finishit, I will release it as soon as possible.

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Re: Invest in automated build system (and one extra person to manage it) SOON

2008-05-01 Thread Julian
Ron K. Jeffries 提到:
 From: Bobby Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 ~~~
 To my mind, the first step after you have an early prototype of a system
 that
 works is to set up a continuous integration server that automatically
 builds,
 runs automated tests, and labels appropriately.
 
 Without that, any work you do is shooting in the dark.  This is (of course)
 particularly
 true for a distributed project, where you can't just yell over the wall to
 someone that they broke the build.
 ~~~
 
 OpenMoko powers that be:
 
 PLEASE Hire someone to create and maintain the build process NOW. It will
 increase
 productivity of your developers as well as the community developer team.
 
 The investment of one additional FTE will help enormously.
 
 be well

Hi,

OpenMoko had two full-time person for this. Me and Graeme.

There is a building server which build image automatically every day.
(http://buildhost.openmoko.org/)

Thanks for advice

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