Re: FOSDEM2010
Hey there, On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Pieter Colpaert freep...@gmail.com wrote: Dear list, Saturday 6 and Sunday 7 February 2010 there is another FOSDEM. We (openmoko-community) haven't been to FOSDEM lately (correct me if I'm wrong) and that got to change. What about having our own devroom and give a sign to the world this community has not died since all what happened lately. So my question is: Who would like to come and represent openmoko? Any thoughts on FOSDEM? Bearstech (through me and others) would like to be there to talk about hackable:1 and our forthcoming initiative about open hardware. Plus, I'd also like to be there to talk a bit about SHR/FSO, as well as drink some beers (Mickey, you owe me one!) :-) -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] 4-16 shr-testing is pretty good!
2009/4/21 Vasco Névoa vasco.ne...@sapo.pt: Well, Xavier, I gave up on my Portuguese accentuated characters a while ago. Since I only use the keyboard's dictionary for SMS messages, it's ok (kids today are writing a lot worse on SMS than just a few missing accents...) ;) You can type accents. You just can't use the dictionnary with it as it will be slow as hell. I've been using french keyboard accents without any problem :-) -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Miscellanious minor issues
[Answering only to the parts not really answered before] On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 1:05 AM, Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: 5) Can the vote plugin be installed inside of SHR Trac? Will do! 7) Will the GPS get an icon which indicates if it is powered on, off, and perhaps even the number of satellites it is receiving correctly. Well, I personnaly don't find that useful, but if you want to do such a thing, you're welcome! :-) Our focus right now is on stabilization and release. When we'll release, we'll have time to see where we want to go (my guess is, though, full blown opimd integration). -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Miscellanious minor issues
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: Question in general, how do I build kernel and rootfs images from latest svn unstable branch? Well first you might want to use git and not svn, it'll work better :-) Then we have a Makefile to handle that for you (it's mandatory as we patch OE). It's on http://build.shr-project.org Everything is documented on http://trac.shr-project.org -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Miscellanious minor issues
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: I too wish the keyboard was accessible with a *single* click, like it is in Om. The keyboard gets a lot of use. It is doable, hacking the theme. Though we have trouble with the room available on the top bar. We're looking for a way to build a comprehensive theme. If any of you are interested, feel free to subscribe to the shr-devel ML (CCed) and help us with that :-) -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Re: SHR Unstable
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm wrote: Come on, this thing is slow! Scrolling has a 2 sec latency! Totally unusable for me. This is a bug with recent e17 and andy-tracking we noticed last week. We can't upgrade e17 right now because there is a slight change on elementary which triggers a segfault on Messages: not sure whose fault it is. About the dictionnary problem, this is due to the fix to handle UTF8. I'm told someone on the e17 side is working on correcting this bug. -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR Unstable
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Paul p...@nlpagan.net wrote: Wow. I must say that I am impressed. Would you care to elaborate ? -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 5:47 AM, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) m...@3v1n0.net wrote: In the latest months the enlightenment world has got many updates, but unfortunately the distros available for the FR don't provide the latest versions of the E stack. This is quite normal since they have to share a tested environment, but it makes so hard to use the latest tools (also because the e libs have frequent changes). That's why today I've given to my Toolchain another challenge :P: compiling E from svn (but following the OE bitbakes configurations)... For your information, Raster has the kindness now and then to keep us (the SHR team) in touch and to give us information on which version of e-wm we should build. If you try unstable, it's generally close to HEAD, but sometimes HEAD doesn't compile, or generates problems. For a time it was UTF8 not being handled. These days it's the dictionnary being slow as hell. Don't worry, as soon as a stabler version will hit the ground, we'll ship with it. -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: which SHR image
Helge, would you be so kind as to copy your text somewhere on the wiki? :-) -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: which SHR image
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl wrote: I would like to try SHR but there are plenty of images in SHR image folder. Which files should I get for flashing? The latest! :-) -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] network link down on windows after opkg update
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 2:10 PM, KaZeR ka...@altern.org wrote: That's what i did a few hours ago :) What about next updates? If new packages are available, do you recommend to flash or upgrade? I recommend to update/upgrade, and reflash if you witness anormal behavior. Though when you're supposed to reflash, I usually say so on the ML, and I'll say so on the SHR blog from now on. -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Question about contact list
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: Please support certain naming conventions on SIM contacts and subsequent combining of contacts in virtual SIM contacts like described here: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2085 This will make it more enjoyable using current SIM contacts. Could you please open a ticket on shr.bearstech.com/trac for that ? -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Question about contact list
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org wrote: Hi folks, I was pondering trying SHR but looking around on the Wiki and the SHR Trac I couldn't see any information as to whether it supports importing vcard files into its contact database.Can anyone clue me in please ? There's no contact database, as we use frameworkd. So right now the contact database is your SIM. We're waiting for opimd integration to work further on this topic. As for vcard import, even if it doesn't exist right now, it should be easily doable for name/number (SIM limitations...) -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] network link down on windows after opkg update
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:08 PM, KaZeR ka...@altern.org wrote: First of all, i didn't meant to be rude : when i said that SHR is my current favorite distro, i mean it. I didn't think you were rude :-) I was using a jffs from 3 or 4 days ago, only the opkg upgrade from this morning broke some things (i didn't reflash yet). And breakage is part of development, so, it just happens :) Well, as I said before, it may happen that an opkg upgrade will break things. We can't, at this point of our development, plan an update path for every little update. This is time consuming, and, even more disturbing, we don't have enough devices to test that anyway :-) -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] network link down on windows after opkg update
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 1:07 PM, KaZeR ka...@altern.org wrote: In fact there was an hidden question :) Do you recommend currently to flash or to opkg upgrade to avoid breakage? I do understand that things may break. No problem. Just trying to reduce the odds ;) Not knowing which revision you're using, at which state and such, I'd recommend to reflash. -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] network link down on windows after opkg update
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Thomas B tomm...@gmx.net wrote: I think the reason for this issue is a change in the initscripts. I fixed it by forcing an install of the package initscripts-shr as a replacement for initscripts (opkg hadn't done that automatically, because the difference in versioning made it look like a downgrade). Well, unfortunately, guys, we generate images at an insane rate these days to test our (in fact MrMoku's) patches for fastboot and such. We also changed a bunch of revisions, and some package naming conventions, which were, sufficed to say, ugly. That's why these days, opkg update'ing wasn't a good solution :-). I'd suggest to reflash if this kind of problem surfaces again. Don't worry, though, as soon as our unstable image building process will be fine, we won't apply this stuff directly on testing. -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] network link down on windows after opkg update
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 2:31 PM, KaZeR ka...@altern.org wrote: Julien, please let us now when your images are more stable.. SHR is my current favorite distro :) Please know that I test images on a daily basis, and that I can't prevent users from downloading borked images in the time between which I generate them then download them (I mostly download them when I'm not at home, so I can't generate them on my home computer), so it may result in an unstable image. If you see an image timestamped from 2 minutes ago, it's usually not a good idea to download it. If an image isn't working properly, I'm used to delete it afterwards. But just so you know, I personally have no issue with a recent reflash, both on windows and linux. So it's either coincidental, or resulting in an unsupported upgrade, or systematic and I'd like to see logs :-) -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian -FSO -GPS] No Fix
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 10:24 PM, glownan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm using SHR and having the same problem. SHR latest image was shipped with gpsd instead of fso-gpsd. Just opkg remove --force-depends gpsd; opkg install fso-gpsd and it'll work. Future images will be corrected. -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian + SHR Apps
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Nikita V. Youshchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The correct thing is to create debian packages for software in question. Nomeata is already working on that. -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: hypermiling SHR for GPS-only usage?
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Joerg Lippmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Turn off the Airconditioning and use higher tyre pressure? How can I reduce the energy usage to a minimum when I just want to use my OM as a GPS-only device? Is ist enough to remove the GSM card to shutdown the phone stack? How can I stop other hungry service? I plan to include something to disable GSM in the settings. It'll get done soon :-) -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What theme is this?
The grey theme was done by BluesLee on #openmoko-cdevel, for SHR. It'll be packaged as soon as I have some spare time :-) -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] phone apps don't work
As I told before, please use the shr-devel mailing list for that kind of issue, as SHR hasn't been released yet and we don't want to/can't settle all the issues of all the users in the world right now, as we already have issues to fix :-) On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: openmoko-dialer starts, bu when i press call this comes: ** (process:1401): DEBUG: initiate call: 076145CENSORED Failed to handle dbus error: type: class 'framework.resource.ResourceNotEnabled' , 69 (dbus-glib-error-quark), code 32 (Sorry for bad line breaks, emails suck for this kind of info) This will only happen if the GSM isn't registered properly (more correctly : isn't enabled). To work on that case, we won't be able to do a thing if you don't give us your /tmp/frameworkd.log and /tmp/ophonekitd.log. Please do so on the shr-devel ML or on our trac. -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] SHR image released
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:13 PM, William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks pretty, faster than 2008.9 (subjective), just seems nicer. Tried the illume theme, and the scalable (needs setting up - defaults are not right for the FR) downside after playing with it for two hours: PIN dialog never came up so cant register Logs on our trac should help us to see if this is truly an issue of SHR or frameworkd. no usb networking - host never sees it being plugged We never had, ever, this problem. No user has complained about that. Could you be more specific? no wifi Image is shipped with mofi. Everybody who used it on our team and users managed to connect to a WPA (it's only WPA) network. Regarding your previous problem, mofi ships with a connect.sh script (which we put in /etc/mofi) which does a ifconfig usb0 down. If you try USB after wifi, as mofi disable usb, it will surely fail. Could you please try again, USB before wifi ? trashed the partition on my 8Gb sandisk SD card on first boot Again: could you be more specific? -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] SHR image released
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GSM is flaky, but I can not put my finger yet on any specific faults. But shutdown is broken. If I shutdown from X, the screen will freeze at some time and shutdown seems to abort some way. I had to reset the device. If I shutdown with X stopped, I see dozens of exquisite errors, but it eventually shuts down. This is a known problem indeed. We're working on the issue. But all after all I'm extremely pleased with this distro. I know it is not done yet, but this is my favourite from now on. ;) Quite pleased to hear that :-) PS: gta01 This is interesting. We had issues on GTA01, could you please come and join us on #openmok-cdevel on freenode, to give more input for us think about? Thanks, -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] SHR image released
Doh, typo. Never mind. I can't access IRC right now, my company network seems to think it's funny not to authentify my computer. Will be there tomorrow ! -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] SHR image released
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Lech Karol Pawłaszek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ;-) I can confirm this. I've just flashed SHR and USB networking doesn't work unless you restart networking. This is weird and unheard of on our side. I flashed the image and had no problem last time. Did you flash the kernel too? -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] SHR image released
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:33 PM, William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've reflashed with 2008.9, but will try it again on the weekend and send the logs etc. wifi was my problem, I'd upgraded the security and forgot to change my reference wpa_supplicant.conf, so I need to test again - should work as exposure showed the networks. MofI's never worked for me and I am not a fan of wifi gui's - you cant see whats happening and more often than not they just cause frustration (like mofi :) - maybe I need to test that again too. I doubt you were able to see the wifi networks through exposure, as it needs connman and we don't ship with it (neither do we build the version which would work with it). Were you talking about 2008.9? usb networking didnt register as being plugged in on the host, but it did start charging. As I said, this is weird and I would like to see some info (kernel version, dmesg, etc...) At the first boot (clean shutdown before flashing etc), the SD card wasnt registered. I moved it to my laptop and restored the partition table from a handy backup and after that it was fine on a number of reboots. Ive also lost it a couple of times on 2008.9 which I thought had been fixed as well, so I normally use Simon Matthews fixes (turns SD clock on before suspend) and have not had any problems afterwards. In this case though, it was straight after boot - no suspend or errors seen. One off glitch? No idea, never used the SD card here :-) With wifi up and a proper keyboard/screen I'll be able to look into it a lot easier :) Proper keyboard/screen? -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] some questions
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Franky Van Liedekerke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: using the latest SHR preview release, it seems it is possible to get the device to suspend if you're not using an older GTK app and press the power button for some seconds. But sometimes this works, sometimes it doesn't. Also, shouldn't the device be able to auto-suspend? If you don't disable it, and if ophonekitd didn't crash, the device will suspend if you're not charging and if there's no active call. Problem is, I unfortunately forgot the GPS users :-). This issue will be considered soon, don't worry. Regarding the suspend behavior, default on frameworkd is : short push on power = suspend, long push = shutdown. The alarm app is present (me happy) but I can't find an app to set the clock time using a gui (I can of course use just the date and time commands). Yes, this is missing :-./. I'm still in the progress of 'just looking', so I don't know yet if the device wakes up from suspend for an incoming call or sms; or if the echo problem is there or not. But I'm liking this distro so far ... Echo problem comes from frameworkd, open a ticket for that on freesmartphone.org :-) -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] gsm call tests: echo is there again
First of all, as SHR hasn't been released yet, could you please mail your comments to the shr-devel mailing list? I don't want to confuse users, here, SHR isn't released yet, it's early work, it has to be perfected. On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Franky Van Liedekerke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - it takes very long before the SIM pin dialog appears (I was already believing this wasn't working when all of the sudden it was there) This is due to the length of some frameworkd loading, and to the inner timeouts in ophonekitd. Unfortunately, it'll be hard to do better as of now. - the font size of the numbers for the pin dialog are very small compared to the button sizes This sometimes happen, this is a known bug, and will be addressed. - the contact app reacts very slow when going down/up in the list by dragging the slidebar down/up (not the arrows) Felt that too. There's already a ticket open for the 'sluggish feeling. - the sms app has no interaction with the contact app, it would be nice to be able to select from the lists of contacts This is on our TODO list. - when calling somebody, the bottom buttons (end, speaker and something else) have also very small fonts being used Again, this sometimes happen. We're addressing the issue. - when calling somebody, the button speaker doesn't do anything Yes it does :-) It's supposed to put the speaker mode, it works well here... Also: I don't see to which provider I'm connected, the battery icon doesn't show the battery percentage (like in FSO M4) and - as already mentioned - there seems to be no gui for date/time settings. Date/time : no gui yet. Battery : We're using a more recent version of illume than FSO M4 if I recall correctly. I'll check that. Regarding the provider, there was bug in illume GSM gadget in correlation with frameworkd MS4 at the time we built the image. That's why we disabled the gadget. Again: except for the echo issue, these are not really showstoppers, but usability thingies. But since the alarm app now basically works (except for the features I already talked about in another mail), this release is getting close, very close of being a hit for me! We'll look into this issue (echo) with the FSO team! -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] SHR image released
The SHR image was NOT released. This is a preview only, we didn't release it yet because we feel it's not complete enough for a day to day usage basis. There's also some issues with frameworkd (even MS4, sad to say), which we would like to settle before any official release. We would also like to build a graceful failure feature to avoid lots of complaining about my contacts app crashed ! just because the sim PIN wasn't registered yet :-). I use it on a day to day basis myself, it's quite stable, and I'm enjoying it, but please do not consider this as a release. This isn't. It's merely a preview. -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] SHR image released
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:13 AM, David Garabana Barro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I'll give FSO M4 a try. After all, SHR is based on FSO... SHR is based on frameworkd, and by extension on FSO, but we modified a bunch of things. For instance, our default conf includes the ti_calypso_deep_sleep feature (#1024 fix). It also logs on file by default, to have good bug reports. Even though the whole credit goes to the FSO team, we worked a bit on making this packaged to have a fully working distro, easy to use, from the start. After all, as Mickeyl said, FSO/Zhone are demos for their work :-) So even if, to our eyes, this isn't quite yet it (stable, easy to use, reliable, simple, beautiful), as there's still a bunch of things to do, we're eagerly going towards this, and we're waiting for people to come over and help. -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO M4] What a wonderfull world
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:36 PM, Christoph Siegenthaler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dito. There's just one thing that's kind of a showstopper for me. I can't receive sms. Sorry that I can't provide any useful data except for the fact that I didn't receive a test-sms I sent to my number. In order to confirm whether this is a bug, edit frameworkd.conf and put the following behind log_level = INFO log_to = file log_destination = /tmp/frameworkd.log Then modify log_level = INFO for log_level = DEBUG and restart frameworkd (/etc/init.d/frameworkd restart), and try again to send yourself an SMS. If it still doesn't work, you'd be able to give full logs for the FSO team on their trac :-). -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Paroli project
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Mirko Lindner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Collaboration and joint efforts sounds like a good idea. However, I had a look at the project description and it seemed to me that SHR focuses on development with C and gtk, which is not quite what we are aiming for, but as I said it was a short look. Could you explain how EFL fits into the picture? SHR has nothing to do with only C and GTK. We aim to deliver a stable and working community driven distribution. We first thought to port the old 2007.2 GTK applications to frameworkd, as by that time, 2008.9 wasn't out yet and 2007.2 wasn't stable enough. We ended up building an architecture allowing the user to install different libraries related to frameworkd functionnalities, and allowing him to change the library used for this or that part in a configuration file. In the end, quickdev (a SHR developer) managed to develop quite fast a working dialer, messages and contacts software based on EFL, in a library implementing the logic built in SHR (libframeworkd-phonegui-efl). This logic is described here : http://shr.bearstech.com/trac/wiki/SHR_Architecture What he did is to implement the specifications written in libframeworkd-phonegui, using libframeworkd-glib to abstract the dbus connection. In the future, I'd like to settle the mainloop problems with libframeworkd-glib, allowing the user to choose which kind of dbus library libframeworkd-glib should use at runtime (i.e. attaching itself to the mainloop of the user/developer choice, hence avoiding the management of threads). I also would like to see how our logic can interact with things such as tichy (as discussed with Guillaume), or other languages than C. In any case, if you manage to build a share object with method hooks usable in C, you're free to use the language of your choice. Hence, it would worth it if we shared our efforts, we're just a few people working out here, and several of us could build something even better :-) -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Paroli project
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Mirko Lindner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More info and the source can be found on paroli's website and svn at: http://code.google.com/p/paroli/ A last note, if you want to commit yourself to paroli development and join the developers-team contact me for svn-commit rights. Just so you know, SHR already chose this path, and we successfully built our dialer based on EFL (and currently moving to elementary), using frameworkd, and libframeworkd-glib which is used as a tool allowing the developer to forget about dbus management. Currently, there's only one UI lib, though anyone can implement a new one quite easily (in C, or whatever exposing C method hooks, a GTK one based on the old 2007.2 UI is a work in progress). Libraries - hence UIs - associated to this or that widget, dialer, messages, etc, are already configurable through, well, a configuration file :-). You can find (a short) documentation about that on our trac wiki : http://shr.bearstech.com/trac/ Maybe we should join forces ? :-) -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: new numptyphysics for freerunner is out
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Aapo Rantalainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Numptyphysics, this great physics drawing game, is reborn! (http://www.opkg.org/package_3.html) There are not yet new upstream release, but there are lots of new things in svn-repository. So we can now play numptyphysics0.2-svn109 on our Freerunners. (Tested with Debian and Fdom). Yay ! Would it be possible for the Open Embedded package maintainer to update it to use autotools and apply the patches developed here ? :-) -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Frameworkd broken in update
On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Joel Newkirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As it turns out, the dialer and contacts ARE working now, but I have no ringer and no audio in calls. I know this was the state a week or two ago with FSO, when I was working with it on top of Raster's previous image. Is it still a problem there as well, or is SHR behind the curve on frameworkd, or what? First of all, SHR is unstable, hasn't be released, and that is intentional. We will release when we'll feel what we did is ready for stable and complete use. Even if I personnaly feel confident enough in SHR to use it on a day to day basis to do telephony stuff, there are still some quirks, some caveats, that we want to fix before any official release. Just so you know, SHR is built using the latest frameworkd (HEAD) in fact, so if there's any problem within frameworkd on SHR, blame the FSO team :-). Regarding the SHR trac : http://shr.bearstech.com/trac/. -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Raster+FSO] Silent Zhone
You are describing a bug. I opened two tickets about that, #174, which describes your situation and is closed, and the next one, #176, which another one altogether :-). You can find them on trac.freesmartphone.org. -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: InvibleShield at ZAGG : swindling ?!?
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Cédric DUFOUIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it can help if people says in which country they are. I'm in France French aswell, ordered two and a half week ago, still didn't receive a thing despite the fact that I did receive the shipping confirmation (two days after my order). I ordered the full body protection and paid for the fast shipping (2-4 days for Europe). As I mailed them a week after my order, they told me they would reship it, and I'm waiting for that since then... I think the mistake in 2-4 days is that they mispelled weeks... -- Julien Cassignol ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:38 PM, John Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: since OM will stick with fso in the foreseeable future, I think port OM2007.2 app suites to fso is a logical move. ogpsd is there based on gypsy, and it should be just another backend of tangogps. Just so you know, the main goal of the Stable Hybrid Release (SHR : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR) is to port applications from 2007.2 to FSO. We have already ported GSM Panel, and we're currently building the dialer. As soon as all of that stuff will be done, it should be usable as is on FSO, or on our image which will, in the end, be either an installation of the new frameworkd on old 2007.2, or some basic packages to install on FSO. -- Julien Cassignol ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
