Re: [2008.9] Compiling GDAL

Op 13 okt 2008, om 16:48 heeft Radek Bartoň het volgende geschreven: Hello. I'm trying to compile GDAL [1] library as a prerequisity for GRASS GIS package using OpenMoko toolchain [2] but I'm getting following error message of missing some autoconf macros. GDAL is already in OE, so why

Re: Kernel upgrade by ipkg

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Werner Almesberger schreef: | Graeme Gregory wrote: |> This has been a long requested feature and its finally ready to be |> unleashed on the world. | | One less pleasant feature of this ipkg is that a freshly built rootfs | image will still execute /

Re: Toolchain alpha release

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Lee schreef: > Hi, > > i686 version is released as well. > > http://downloads.openmoko.org/toolchains/ As I pointed out to Mickey last week, you can't legally distribute that toolchain for a number of reasons: * You use autotools.bbclass almos

Re: GPS data from gllin

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Turner schreef: > I believe there is the possibility that GeoClue will be ported to > OpenMoko. No need to port, I added geoclue[1] to OpenEmbedded a long time ago. 'bitbake geoclue' to get the backend. The panel applet has been disabled due t

Re: GPS data from gllin

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Turner schreef: > I believe there is the possibility that GeoClue will be ported to > OpenMoko. No need to port, I added geoclue[1] to OpenEmbedded a long time ago. 'bitbake geoclue' to get the backend. The panel applet has been disabled due t

Re: Reminder: Google SoC application deadline in 5 days

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Google postponed the date till the 26th, time to hurry up! regards, Koen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFGARuFMkyGM64RGpERAouwAKCAdlDj2a6FyycIxNfdv57jOG7vSQCeN7s3 +QvaMAoXpA7h/mUVdeIsY0o= =RlgK -END PGP S

[Fwd: Re: GSoC 2007 is ON!!]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Forwarded from the google SoC mailinglist. regards, Koen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFF5Eb2MkyGM64RGpERAuC/AKCha/0wr+HzCqFGbMvpUcMlYWjktwCgjkJr j+T9HfZdo51yr6SjB3vxUcg= =3olv -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- Beg

Debug board uses (was Re: Software Emulator)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Welter schreef: > A little OT, but under what circumstances would a developer require a > debug board? A debug board would have 2 main uses for me: 1) a serial console so you can debug problems with X or initscripts 2) access to jtag so you f

Re: Software Emulator

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Perry E. Metzger schreef: > Koen Kooi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Please don't stare yourself blind on an 'emulator', since your >> desktop already emulates 90% of the openmoko tech. > > I think that,

Re: Software Emulator

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Richi Plana schreef: > On Sat, 2007-02-17 at 17:36 +0100, Koen Kooi wrote: >>> Seems one of the more common sentiments around here (myself included). I >>> was wondering if we could get a statement from Sean et al. on where a

Re: Software Emulator

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dean Collins schreef: > Koen, > You think you're so right about architecture and software development > that you are writing code when less than 3 weeks ago an email was sent > to the entire list stating that there had been some hardware > changes.

Re: Software Emulator

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dean Collins schreef: > Yeh right, personally after my experiences with development on the > Savaje OS last year anyone coding without a 100 authentic emulator is > wasting their time. Right, Savaje doesn't reuse desktop technology (java doesn't coun

Re: Software Emulator

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Richi Plana schreef: > On Sat, 2007-02-17 at 07:23 -0700, Ben Burdette wrote: >> It would be nice to have an emulator to actually run the software over >> on the computer side. Not that that's the best way to have a desktop >> side to openmoko, but

Re: Recipe for setting up OpenEmbedded environment on wiki

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Richi Plana schreef: > On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 17:27 +0100, Koen Kooi wrote: >> I still fail to observe the localconf recipe that you deleted from here >>> >>> http://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/OpenMoko/OpenEmbedded/SettingU

Re: OpenMoko and Multimedia

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christian F.K. Schaller schreef: > Hi everyone, > Reading the documents I found so far on OpenMoko and the upcoming phone > I am wondering what the plans are around Multimedia support. > > The stack of OpenMoko do share a lot with Mameo, but nothing

Re: Wish for 2nd generation Neo: USB 2.0

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Harald Welte schreef: > On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 10:23:24AM +0100, Sven Neuhaus wrote: >> Since everyone is drooling about the next iteration of the Neo which is >> exptected to include WiFi, I figured I'd add a request for USB 2.0. This >> allows us to

Re: Free Your Phone

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dave Crossland schreef: > Hi Sean! > > On 20/01/07, Sean Moss-Pultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> the OpenMoko Linux Distribution > > Can the FIC marketting department call it 'the OpenMoko GNU/Linux > Distribution'? How much GNU software must be

Re: [openmoko-announce] Free Your Phone

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dave Crossland schreef: > On 20/01/07, Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Is there any code that would be running on the phone that won't be >> FOSS (ie. GPS daemon/driver )? If so, how easy will it be to find out >> which code is closed-source, a

Re: Built in PIM app source?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Koen Kooi schreef: > Mark McClellan schreef: >> Thanks Koen, > >> I'll start looking at the backend. Of course my next question will be, >> how do I setup a dev environmnet for openmoko? But i'll wait on that one >

Re: OpenMoko development environment

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rodolphe Ortalo schreef: > Is there a usable emulator for the environment too? > > Btw, once the openmoko-specific source code is available, how will it be > available (as an extension of openembedded?)? I guess the recipes will be merged into OE and

Re: OpenMoko devices and Mac OS X

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dane Jensen schreef: > On Saturday 20 January 2007 03:10, Renaissance Man wrote: >> Presumably there will be no compatibility with Mac OS X (incl. >> Address Book, iCal, iPhoto, iSync, dotMac email) when the Neo1973 >> ships, but is such support in the

Re: Q1: GPS software bundled ,Q2:Java support

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jay Trister schreef: > Btw, the gaming-console/media-player/e-book-reader GP2X is made on a > pretty much-same philosophy.Everything is open for everyone-even the > source code of the firmware. And the company is giving an SDK. Last I checked they us

Re: OpenMoko devices and Mac OS X

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gabriel Ambuehl schreef: > On Saturday 20 January 2007 13:04, Koen Kooi wrote: > >>> Well, I'd presume that we might hope for Address Book and iCal at >>> least, as these are covered by SyncML. >> No > > i

Re: power plug

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nikita V. Youshchenko schreef: >>> How can it charge over USB if it gets full discharged? >>> AFAIK, USB device is not powered by USB host until it is configured. >>> So gadged must be operational to charge over usb. >> Well, I'm almost certain that my

Re: OpenMoko devices and Mac OS X

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Kostyrka schreef: > * Renaissance Man <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070120 12:14]: >> Presumably there will be no compatibility with Mac OS X (incl. Address Book, >> iCal, iPhoto, iSync, dotMac email) when the Neo1973 ships, but is such >> support in

Re: collaborating on bluetooth audio

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Koen Kooi schreef: > Brad Midgley schreef: >> Koen > >> > What's the openmoko developers' take on pulseaudio? I'm looking at >> how a >> > bluetooth pulse plugin would work out. fwiw, pu

Re: collaborating on bluetooth audio

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brad Midgley schreef: > Koen > > > What's the openmoko developers' take on pulseaudio? I'm looking at > how a > > bluetooth pulse plugin would work out. fwiw, pulse could run as > its own > > service or be embedded in another servi

Re: Built in PIM app source?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark McClellan schreef: > Thanks Koen, > > I'll start looking at the backend. Of course my next question will be, > how do I setup a dev environmnet for openmoko? But i'll wait on that one > since it's been asked 100 times so far on the list :) Follo

Re: Built in PIM app source?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joseph J. McCarthy schreef: > I know that I will run GPE PIM apps on mine, but that is just because I > helped write them ;) > > Joe > > PS. I hope whoever has/gets the answer to the "stock" PIM apps will post > to the list since I would be intereste

is google.com down?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, It seems google.com is down, since a a great deal of topics posted to the list can be answered by spending 2 minutes google-ing. Please, do some research before wasting our time. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8D

Re: Neither iPhone or OpenMoko are revolutionary

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Doug Shawhan schreef: > Magic fuel cells aside, I predict 802.11x will not be a big deal for > mobiles until someone comes up with beautiful, free peer-to-peer voice > app Or, even better, a mesh voip solution. I was working at a festival last year

Re: Neither iPhone or OpenMoko are revolutionary

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Doug Shawhan schreef: > Magic fuel cells aside, I predict 802.11x will not be a big deal for > mobiles until someone comes up with beautiful, free peer-to-peer voice > app Or, even better, a mesh voip solution. I was working at a festival last year

Re: X11 and/or Framebuffer

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Harald Welte schreef: > dimensions:480x640 pixels (163x217 millimeters) > resolution:75x75 dots per inch Your /etc/X11/Xserver is broken, add '-dpi 280' to your $ARGS regards, Koen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Da

Re: X11 and/or Framebuffer

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller schreef: > Just a question: will the OpenMoko come with FB and/or X11? As a general note to the mailinglist: All official info is available from http://www.openmoko.com/press/index.html As a note to people wondering about the

Re: Bluetooth question ;)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Michel schreef: > Salve Sean, *! > > It is great that the Neo1973 v1 will have Bluetooth :))) > Will you publish which version and class it will have? Bus 1 Device 2: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode) 2.0+

Re: Time to copy 1GB via USB 1.1 = 12 minutes? Re: MikroSD under the battery - unmount, sleep modus, small capacitator Re: MicroSD Wifi ?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Michel schreef: > Salve Gabriel! > > Gabriel Ambuehl schrieb am Dienstag, den 16. Januar 2007 um 14:12h: >>> Ok you are right, most devices with microSD will have Bluetooth, >>> most cameras have no Bluetooth, but also using no microSD. >>> An

Re: LCD

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef: > Can you please confirm that this screen really is full VGA not 320x200? http://www.openmoko.com/press/index.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFrLFVMkyGM64RGpERAsRIAKCv5UXUpJyT/Akqqr

Re: Fwd: OpenMoko in my area?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Krier schreef: > Marcel de Jong wrote: >> On 1/15/07, Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> I'm in the US, in New York city. What networks can I use a Neo1973 >>> phone on? Do all GSM carriers accept all GSM phones? >>> >>> >> >> In contrast t

Re: collaborating on bluetooth audio

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brad Midgley schreef: > Hi > > I'm working on bluetooth audio--see bluetooth-alsa.sf.net > . > > What sort of software are you using for bluetooth voice? Is it combined > into some other services or standalone? > > We'r

Re: Real Neo1973 photo / Neo delayed...!?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marcus Bauer schreef: > On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 15:48 -0800, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: >> On 1/11/07 3:38 PM, "Koen Kooi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>>> If there's enough interest, it might be cool to

Re: Real Neo1973 photo / Neo delayed...!?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sean Moss-Pultz schreef: > On 1/11/07 1:06 PM, "Sven Neuhaus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> We have two more kits that will be available (in addition to the standard >>> kit): A "Car Kit" and a "Hacker's Lunchbox." >> Car kit? Please tell me it inc

Re: Lightweight 'navigational' app? (Was Re: Real Neo1973 photo / Neo delayed...!?)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Bohme schreef: > Sven Neuhaus wrote: >> Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: >>> We have two more kits that will be available (in addition to the >>> standard >>> kit): A "Car Kit" and a "Hacker's Lunchbox." >> >> Car kit? Please tell me it includes car navigat

Re: Maemo gps APIs

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Koen Kooi schreef: > Hi, > > Andrew Flegg in #maemo pointed me to > http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HowToUseGPSFrameworkInOS2007, which looks > seriously sweet. > Mickey hinted that libgpsmgr and libgpsbt might be present in the form o

Maemo gps APIs

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Andrew Flegg in #maemo pointed me to http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HowToUseGPSFrameworkInOS2007, which looks seriously sweet. Mickey hinted that libgpsmgr and libgpsbt might be present in the form of dbus services on the neo. Would FIC/openmoko con

Re: Real Neo1973 photo / Neo delayed...!?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sean Moss-Pultz schreef: > We have two more kits that will be available (in addition to the standard > kit): A "Car Kit" and a "Hacker's Lunchbox." > > The latter is quite cool. I'll tell you more about it soon. I hope it's like this: http://www.l

Re: Idea: Virtual desktop

ager does. > > > Pedro Aguilar > > Michael 'Mickey' Lauer schreef: >>>> Koen Kooi wrote: >>>>>>>> OpenMoko doesn't support windowing, all applications open >>>>>>>> full-screen, >>>>>>> W

Re: Why isn't WiFi on rev. 1?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chuck Pareto schreef: > I'm just wondering why WiFi isn't on the first generation Neo1973. Check the archives of this list, it has been discussed ad nauseam. Executive summary: no free drivers for power-efficient chips. regards, Koen -BEGIN PG

Happy New Year!

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Now where can I order a neo1973? ;) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFmEhHMkyGM64RGpERAqBEAKC8RrlzyVaoLenlTo7jwJlcUjFF9ACgrvTR /6xgNmrl7z6ATec0wXqk5Y8= =C31U -END PGP SIGNATURE-

Re: Idea: Virtual desktop

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer schreef: > Koen Kooi wrote: >>>>> OpenMoko doesn't support windowing, all applications open full-screen, >>>> What about modal windows and dialogs? >>> We have full-scree

Re: Idea: Virtual desktop

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer schreef: > Koen Kooi wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 > >> Michael 'Mickey' Lauer schreef: >>> Ole Tange wrote: >>>> When the deskto

Re: Idea: Virtual desktop

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer schreef: > Ole Tange wrote: >> When the desktop is only 640x480 it would be handy to easily change >> between multiple desktops. > > I'm not sure what this would be useful for. In the desktop world, > virtual desktops are primar

Re: Java GPL'ed!

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alessandro Iurlano schreef: > And it has started GPLizing from the J2ME. > So, for everyone interested it should be easy to compile it for the > OpenMoko. If it's so easy, why haven't you finished the work started here: http://lists.openmoko.org/piper

Re: AGPS closed source drivers = DRM for public data

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Oleg Gusev schreef: > Am Donnerstag, 28. Dezember 2006 16:38 schrieb Koen Kooi: >> Last I checked it was neither sold nor marketed as a 'free software' >> device. Hell, it's not even sold *at all* >> > Ok, then

Re: AGPS closed source drivers = DRM for public data

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Oleg Gusev schreef: > Am Donnerstag, 28. Dezember 2006 10:56 schrieb Richard Franks: >> 2) I believe that there is a lot of information which cannot be shared >> publicly with the community due to NDAs or ongoing negotiations. >> > > Is it acceptabl

Re: Idea: Virtual desktop

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ole Tange schreef: > When the desktop is only 640x480 it would be handy to easily change > between multiple desktops. Virtual desktops don't make sense when you use a fullscreen window manager like matchbox. regards, Koen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE--

Re: Regarding hardware specs...

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kenshin schreef: > Can i raise some hoppes for this: > - great image capture (>= 800x600, "without" noise) > - great video capture (> 20fps, memory space being the only limit for > recording time) > - great audio capture (use it as a recorder) > - big

Re: no market - my 2 cents

Oleg Gusev schreef: Am Freitag, 22. Dezember 2006 15:37 schrieb Marcus Bauer: The hw6515 costs twice as much and offers only 240x320 screen and is way bulkier because it is a PDA and not a phone in the first place. hw6515 is an outdated device that is not produced anymore. To be fair one sh

Initial attempt to get cdc to build in OE (was: Re: Software Development)

look at it. -- Terrence Koen Kooi wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Terrence schreef: The Java Mobile & Embedded Community (www.mobileandembedded.org) is very interested in getting Java ME ported to OpenMoko. You can start right now by adding phoneme and javac to opene

Re: Internal flash size

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef: > > > > On Wed, 20 Dec 2006, Jeff Andros wrote: > >>> >>> > User - yes, developer - no. To get working toolchain installed I need >>> 128M >>> > for rootfs. So I will have to boot from card or chroot to card or use >>>

Re: Internal flash size

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jeff Andros schreef: > > > > User - yes, developer - no. To get working toolchain installed I > need 128M > > for rootfs. So I will have to boot from card or chroot to card or use > > symlinks. > > > > > as far as I know this is

Re: emergency call - fallback to call without SIM Re: capacitor to call the police without battery and SIM card *g* Re: Fun with Stolen/Lost Phones..

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gabriel Ambuehl schreef: > On Friday 15 December 2006 20:23, Robert Michel wrote: >> Without SIM card is the keyword. There are people got into trouble, >> especialy in the mountains and they didn't made an emergency call >> because their GSM network w

Re: capacitor to call the police without battery and SIM card *g* Re: Fun with Stolen/Lost Phones..

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tomasz Zielinski schreef: > 2006/12/15, Robert Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> 1. You could use a phone of a friend to send a SMS with a onetime code. > > The very first thing thief do is remove and throw away your SIM card. > So you can forget abou

Re: GPLv3 and Mobile Phones

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Richard Franks schreef: > On 12/15/06, Koen Kooi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Oleg Gusev schreef: >> >> > I think any reasonable person understand

Re: GPLv3 and Mobile Phones

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Oleg Gusev schreef: > I think any reasonable person understands that wifi/BT was left out Bluetooth left out? That's not what I heard. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFgqAoMkyGM64RGpERAikxAJ0aRWBcb6LSnIzc9iTtzHml

Re: Text entry

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ben F-W schreef: > Ben wrote: >> Of course, the advantage of OpenMoko is that we wouldn't have to >> choose :-) > I think I'd phrase it a bit differently: the advantage to me of OpenMoko > is that we *get* to choose, rather than the manufacturer choosi

Re: Something like a Wiki

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sean Moss-Pultz schreef: > We are in the late stages of development now. Would it be possible to update the screenshots in the press page, since the ones there have a totally bogus fontsize, even for my relatively young eyes. regards, Koen -BEG

Re: The audio IC Wolfson WM8753 is cool :)))))

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Michel schreef: > PS: Again, it seems that an FPGA between the I/O connectors > and the other chips would encrease the power of the Neo1973, > e.g. the FPGA could switch the second audio jack to mono output. As can a GPIO. Stop with th

Re: Shiny geek toy?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tomasz Zielinski schreef: > 2006/12/7, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Until we have the wiki, I believe that Sean and the others are able to >> sort >> our ideas into the proper categories. > > I can set up temporary (or not temporary, b

Re: Is it portable? [scanned]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Richard Franks schreef: > On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 19:37 +0100, Robert Michel wrote: > >> Explain me - what would be the long term benefit to run OpenMoko on a >> THC device in the next month? > > I'm not a corporate marketing-ologist, but surely the mo

Re: One Application, Multiple Frameworks

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer schreef: > We have KDE and GNOME for the desktop, we (will soon) have OpenMoko for the > phone, > we have Maemo for internet tablets and similar appliances, but we > still lack a way to easily write applications that scale UI-w

Re: openmoko on other FIC platforms as well?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas MARCHESSEAU schreef: > Koen Kooi wrote: > slubman schreef: > >>>> Le Lundi 4 Décembre 2006 09:16, Gabriel Ambuehl a écrit : >>>> >>>>> On Sunday 03 December 2006 16:29, Sean Moss-Pultz wrot

Re: openmoko on other FIC platforms as well?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 slubman schreef: > Le Lundi 4 Décembre 2006 09:16, Gabriel Ambuehl a écrit : >> On Sunday 03 December 2006 16:29, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: >>> We haven't talked in great detail about that yet. Right now we're mainly >>> focusing on phones. But would you

Re: openmoko on other FIC platforms as well?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sean Moss-Pultz schreef: > On 12/3/06 11:26 PM, "Koen Kooi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I just noticed this: http://www.fic.com.tw/product/pmp.aspx >> >> Is FIC planning on putting openmoko based (open!)

openmoko on other FIC platforms as well?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I just noticed this: http://www.fic.com.tw/product/pmp.aspx Is FIC planning on putting openmoko based (open!) firmware on those as well? regards, Koen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFcuyfMkyGM64RGpERAjmgAKC

Re: Small evaluation, city: 4 Internet Cafes, 3 Copy Shops, 2 Photo services; university: 1 library , 1 computer room

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Richard Franks schreef: > On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 12:00 +0800, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: >> On 11/30/06 6:12 AM, "Richard Franks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >>> Unless it already exists, I'll do some research tonight.. anyone >>> interested in joining

Re: Software Development

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Terrence schreef: > The Java Mobile & Embedded Community (www.mobileandembedded.org) > is very interested in getting Java ME ported to OpenMoko. You can start right now by adding phoneme and javac to openembedded (www.openembedded.org), which would ma

Re: Small evaluation, city: 4 Internet Cafes, 3 Copy Shops, 2 Photo services; university: 1 library , 1 computer room

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Richard Franks schreef: > Hey! This is the first project idea which we (the community) could > start today and complete even before the first Neo1973 ships, without > access to the SDK or any other data. Booya. That isn't true. You can start coding

Re: X and Matchbox

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer schreef: > Tim Newsom wrote: >> Note, when I talk about themes I am not talking about just changing the >> graphics but also the locations of various rendered buttons and >> interface elements in order to find optimal locations.

Re: Can The Proprietary GPS Daemon Be Removed?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dave Crossland schreef: > On 28/11/06, Dave Crossland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> And can someone confirm the GSM part is Free? :-) > > Reason I ask is: > > "There are some minor, self-contained proprietary bits on the back end > side in userspa

Re: Open Moko - GPL?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Corey schreef: > On Monday 27 November 2006 14:11, Koen Kooi wrote: >> Steve Salazar schreef: >>> - Storage: 1GB minimum integrated SD for running a real linux. >> Kernel 2.6.17.7 isn't real enough for you? ;) >&g

Re: Open Moko - GPL?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Salazar schreef: > > Hi. First of all I want to repeat what many others on this list have > already said. I am very excited about the open moko project and the > opportunities it represents. I will be one of the first in line to buy > an open

Re: Airplane Mode

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bob Pluss schreef: > Hello All, > > I've been following this thread since the beginning and am very excited > about the release of the Neo1973. > > Will there be an "airplane mode" on this phone? In which the GSM > receiver and probably the GPS recei

Screenprotectors

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Has anyone from FIC contacted Brando (or any other company) about manufacturing decent screenprotectors for the gta01? regards, Koen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFaaxnMkyGM64RGpERAmRuAJ9XJOnVPnDcHSPbEMzyG

Re: data speeds

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hank williams schreef: > Thanks. > > And from what I have read in the archives no wifi yet, is that right? If > I wanted to get data into the phone is there a usb port? http://www.openmoko.com/press/index.html#preliminary_specification lists an usb

Re: fonts?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marcin Juszkiewicz schreef: > Dnia sobota, 25 listopada 2006 20:12, Gustavo Ferreira napisał: >> - what's the rendering mode - black&white, greyscale or sub-pixel? > > I'm guessing: subpixel. There was a discussion in #openmoko about wether or not 1

Re: RGB pixel direction question Re: Drawing raw pixels to screen..

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Michel schreef: > Salve Gabriel! > > Gabriel Ambuehl schrieb am Donnerstag, den 23. November 2006 um 19:30h: > >> On Thursday 23 November 2006 19:21, Robert Michel wrote: >>> that will be ugly. So for designing would be interesting >>> what wi

Re: Please go on ;) Re: GPS App idea

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Richard Franks schreef: > On 11/23/06, Tapani Pälli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > [location tagging] >> >> I think these kinds of things would be doable if user could 'tag' >> locations based on available bluetooth or wifi hotspot data. Then later >>

Re: A marketing angle

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Richard Franks schreef: > For example - I'm not hearing much about middleware in the OpenMoko API > - how different applications can collaborate, create metadata (e.g. for > usage-prediction), and share resources or data - I suspect (although I'd > lo

Re: A marketing angle

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ben F-W schreef: > Koen Kooi wrote: >> Ben F-W schreef: >> >>> Could you explain this? How would it benefit FIC for a rival >>> manufacturer to take a program developed for the OpenMoko platform and >>> adj

Re: GPS App idea

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Richard Franks schreef: > On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 15:12 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> All I really want from the Neo is a GPS application that helps me when >>> I have gone senile and can't find my car in a big parking lot. Ideally >>> it would con

Re: Adding an overview page to openmoko.{com,org}

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sean Moss-Pultz schreef: > On 11/19/06 10:34 PM, "Koen Kooi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Sean Moss-Pultz schreef: >>> On 11/15/06 10:15 PM, "Koen Kooi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>&g

Re: Adding an overview page to openmoko.{com,org}

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sean Moss-Pultz schreef: > On 11/15/06 10:15 PM, "Koen Kooi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> There's a continuous stream of questions flooding this mailinglist, so isn't >> it time to >> add an ove

Re: wlan and voip

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Jellinghaus schreef: > maybe it could be even the first application where I > can enter a birthday for a contact without knowing > the birth year? (I don't remember any software that > can do this.) Apple's Addressbook.app allows just that :

Re: A nice idea for the gps

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paolo Cavallini schreef: > too bad! missing our nice apt-get... ln -sf /usr/bin/ipkg /usr/bin/apt-get I doubt 99% of the apt-get fanboys will notice the difference ;) regards, Koen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8D

Re: A nice idea for the gps

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Jellinghaus schreef: > The slides mentioned "apt-get install". > will that be the official install system? No, and that has been answered before: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2006-November/76.html (the rest of that threa

A nice idea for the gps

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I just read an interesting article[1] about using the gps in combination with the addressbook. Slashdot has a discussion about the obvious drawbacks. What are your thoughts about this? regards, Koen [1] http://www.smh.com.au/news/Technology/N

Re: power of "apt-get install" example: Linksys NSLU2 is now official supported by Debian installer, 2. free ARM emulator QEMU

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Michel schreef: > Salve Koen! > > On Thu, 16 Nov 2006, Koen Kooi wrote: >> As indicated before, openmoko won't use apt, but ipkg. > > Ok - so I asked myself why ipkg and not apt. > http://www.handhelds.org/hype

Re: power of "apt-get install" example: Linksys NSLU2 is now official supported by Debian installer, 2. free ARM emulator QEMU

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Michel schreef: > Salve! > > Some stimulation, especialy for those who didn't use Debian (daily), > and those who can't wait to get a Neo1973 - in this email: As indicated before, openmoko won't use apt, but ipkg. > 1. Linksys NAS NSLU2 (ARM

Re: Adding an overview page to openmoko.{com,org}

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sean Moss-Pultz schreef: > On 11/15/06 10:15 PM, "Koen Kooi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> There's a continuous stream of questions flooding this mailinglist, so isn't >> it time to >> add an ove

Adding an overview page to openmoko.{com,org}

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, There's a continuous stream of questions flooding this mailinglist, so isn't it time to add an overview page to the openmoko site(s)? - From what I know so far: Hardware * samsung s3c2410 SoC * bluetooth 2.0 * unpowered USB OTG * usb gadget

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