Re: Fwd: Re: Bestellung openmoko

2008-07-02 Thread Marcel de Jong
my order of the Neo Freerunner, (I'm most likely in the batch of July 27th) and I saw your message in the preview gmail window on netvibes, and I nearly died there, thinking that they had started to process my order, and were about to ship. :) Sadly, I still have to wait. :) But don't s

Re: Group sale Netherlands

2008-04-19 Thread Marcel de Jong
unted shipment. But more would of course be nice. :) I hope to see the Neo in my hands soon. :) [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#The_Netherlands Greetings, Marcel de Jong ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Group sale Netherlands

2008-04-18 Thread Marcel de Jong
If I look at the wiki page of the group sales[1], the number seems to suggest that we already have 10, but I have a feeling that that is an incorrect assumption. Because the numbers are very incremental. ;) The 1/10 behind my name is 1 unit out of the possible 10 for the group sale. :) Perhaps t

Re: Switch to newsgroup

2007-07-26 Thread Marcel de Jong
newsgroups? > > Indeed, for the forum lovers, then there are sites like Google Groups. :) And the newsgroup 'purists' can then use their favourite NNTP (and perhaps port/write one for the Neo.) :-) --- Marcel de Jong ___ OpenMoko

Re: Why you won't find me in the forum much

2007-07-26 Thread Marcel de Jong
eate a Usenet newsgroup? If so, that might be a solution. --- Marcel de Jong ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: PRESS: Hands-on with the OpenMoko Phone

2007-07-25 Thread Marcel de Jong
y I see 7 steps. ;) It's great to hear that there are so many people interested in this thing. Gives me hope that this project has a chance. :) --- Marcel de Jong ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: well, that didn't take long

2007-07-15 Thread Marcel de Jong
Well I must say that the free shipping does sound rather attractive, especially if you look at the high shipping costs to NL, if it's bought from the official store. (but sadly I don't have 400 dollars at present) :) On 7/15/07, Joe Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A Neo is being offered on

Re: [Nederlanders opgelet] Dutch newspaper blog about OpenMoko phone

2007-07-12 Thread Marcel de Jong
On 7/12/07, Vincent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > een telefoon met fraaie afgeronde hoeken That's actually a compliment about the rounded corners, haven't heard that in a while ;-) Also, I guess when the author says navigational software shouldn't be a problem because TomTom runs Linux, he'

Re: Charging the NEO1973

2007-07-12 Thread Marcel de Jong
Tim Shannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > According to the wiki, charging the battery is always done through the USB socket. Does that mean that the NEO is only chargable from a computer, or is there a USB cord that plugs into a wall socket included. I don't know about everyone else, but I wa

Re: Nederlanders! Openmoko needs more attention

2007-07-09 Thread Marcel de Jong
Now, I've opened a topic on the Openmoko at Tweakers.net again. Placed another post to that board. If they close that one too as spam, I don't care anymore for their 'Gathering of Tweakers'. If they can't see the awesomeness of this device, then I can't be bothered posting there. :P http://gather

Re: Nederlanders! Openmoko needs more attention

2007-07-08 Thread Marcel de Jong
Not just the Dutch. Slashdot needs some attention too. :) http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&id=215821 BTW, too bad they already closed the Tweakers.net thread. And I can't find a way to suggest a news story there. On 7/8/07, ted braak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There is a forumthread s

Re: Will the Neo have Wifi?

2007-07-08 Thread Marcel de Jong
On 7/8/07, lists <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Will the Neo have Wifi, sometime consider Wimax, a Sip client? Yes Neo1972 version2 (the one in October) will have WiFi. The one for sale now, doesn't. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists

Re: Some light ahead...

2007-04-27 Thread Marcel de Jong
ank unbelievably - I > don't think they'll slip the iPhone date. It has already slipped. Apple's press release on April 13th[1] talked about a releasedate of late June. Originally it was June 15th. [1] - http://www.apple.com/uk/hotnews/ (look

Re: Some light ahead...

2007-04-27 Thread Marcel de Jong
sure there are already people working on great software using the openmoko-makefile, and other dev-tools. But don't expect stellar sales from people not in the know. I doubt that I would be able to find the Neo at our local GSM shop. But that's just my opinion. greetings, Marcel de J

Status update on the phones?

2007-04-18 Thread Marcel de Jong
g with rsync or with svn.) Or do I need to use the Openmoko makefile to grab these files? sincerely, Marcel de Jong -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGJpZslO32TmuZymsRAib0AJ0WPLu00EryEeMDUufcRhbxfSW2wQCdE7/s VJk/7Liyi57/ysu47Gqz6Sw

Re: Proposal: Personal Data Encryption (maybe SoC?)

2007-03-19 Thread Marcel de Jong
;pin' is a gesture based on the numbers. for instance 4789 would look like: | | -- You draw a crude L-shape. And with the spacing between the numbers you can have all sorts of shapes and drawings that is your password. --- Marcel de Jong ___

Re: Crossroads

2007-03-13 Thread Marcel de Jong
ey offer that service here in The Netherlands themselves. No, I'm not affiliated with OpenMoko either... so again this is not the official word... But I doubt you'd get any different answer from any of them. I hope this helps. --- Marcel de Jong _

Re: Crossroads

2007-03-13 Thread Marcel de Jong
you're set. How do you know? Personal experience. I have set up my mobile phone (S-E T610) to use GPRS myself, because I didn't like the walled garden they provided me with (This has most likely changed by now). After a short Google search I found Vodafone APN settings tha

Re: OpenMoko featured in Mac|Life

2007-03-05 Thread Marcel de Jong
on which I've commented on the site. (I've added this article to the Wiki Press Coverage page (under February)) --- Marcel de Jong ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Itch3: Anti-lost/theft protection

2007-03-04 Thread Marcel de Jong
just curious, it sounds like an interesting idea. --- Marcel de Jong ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: YouTube (was: Back from FOSDEM)

2007-02-25 Thread Marcel de Jong
Hi Doug, * On 2/26/07, Doug Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What is the easiest way to distribute the video? > > Dailymotion / YouTube They have bw to burn :) Great idea, and it's not just a YouTube video posting--it's an ongoing marketing effort, and one that can give lots of

Re: Shipment of phones

2007-02-25 Thread Marcel de Jong
Hi Marc, * On 2/26/07, Marc Verwerft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There is an entry in the Wiki about shipping notes, but before I posted anything there I wanted to check/compare/confirm the above. Any comments or similar experiences with buying goods from outside EU anyone? I thought that FI

Re: Neo1973 With Screen On at PopSci!

2007-02-23 Thread Marcel de Jong
duct that's so wanted by the community. Well of course they meant that it was the phone speaker. Just wanted to make a little joke about it. Just by the way... 3 speakers on a phone? That's got to be a first! :) And I just love the way it looks, I gotta have

Re: What service plan in New York City?

2007-02-19 Thread Marcel de Jong
is which has the biggest coverage. I believe that on t-mobile.com you can see a map with the coverage of them in your area. And I'm sure Cingular has a similar page. :) Please note, I'm not from the USA but I've read up on a few sources about this, and heard stories fr

Re: Wifi again

2007-02-17 Thread Marcel de Jong
in order to be completely open, it'd need to be open source drivers. -- Marcel de Jong ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Help Adding A Picture/Video Behind Incoming Call Screen

2007-02-17 Thread Marcel de Jong
, but I would like to add a picture/video to the background instead of darkening what was being done. Are there any pictures of this without the labels so I could make a mockup? The one I linked was the only one I have found. Perhaps one of the OM-officials could give some more info? :-)

Re: Help Adding A Picture/Video Behind Incoming Call Screen

2007-02-16 Thread Marcel de Jong
those folders are just design indications,so it is of course subject to change. ;-) --- Marcel de Jong ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: "Automatic Updates Notification" for the Neo?

2007-02-16 Thread Marcel de Jong
ystem, and have both GUI and CLI) I have little experience with Fedora, so I don't know the similes with their system, but I'm sure it's very similar. --- Marcel de Jong ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Just a personal feedback - I'm just writing for me Re: And please use a emailclients with working "Reference" Re: gmail users CC'ing

2007-02-13 Thread Marcel de Jong
;m very sorry to started this thread going into deep and I do not want to harm Openmoko by dissmotivating people to join... So, my style was not ok and I already asked for excuse me. Apology accepted. On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, Marcel de Jong wrote: > Sorry for not replying at the bottom... > &g

Re: And please use a emailclients with working "Reference" Re: gmail users CC'ing

2007-02-13 Thread Marcel de Jong
Sorry for not replying at the bottom... Why the open hostility towards GMail users? You all tout "we want freedom to choose" and all that, but still you'd like to stifle the same level of freedom of others. I choose to use GMail, that's a deliberate choice, because it's one of the few great _we

Re: [openmoko-announce] OpenMoko Challenges

2007-02-12 Thread Marcel de Jong
at'll do everything perfectly, and you'll do just fine. :) -- Marcel de Jong ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Fake it at FOSDEM

2007-02-09 Thread Marcel de Jong
at image to find out what the text on the back said... :) But nicely done! Sadly I won't be at FOSDEM. :( Have a drink for me. Marcel de Jong ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: addon sleeves / casings - wish

2007-01-27 Thread Marcel de Jong
k at the larger version of that picture: http://www.linuxdevices.com/files/misc/fic_traveler_handset_fic-gta001.jpg It seems more like it's a button. --- Marcel de Jong ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.o

Re: Possibilities for commercial software?

2007-01-26 Thread Marcel de Jong
I'm sorry to stick my nose into this possible bees-nest. But I feel I have to object a little here. On 1/26/07, Dave Crossland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 26/01/07, Richard Boehme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The point I bring from this is that if, for instance, TomTom has > mapping software t

Re: Possibilities for commercial software?

2007-01-25 Thread Marcel de Jong
gainst DRM. --- Marcel de Jong ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Developers phone also fit for early adopters?

2007-01-25 Thread Marcel de Jong
On 1/26/07, Joe Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Marcel de Jong writes: >On 1/26/07, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Marcel de Jong wrote: >> >> > I was wondering. I'm not a developer, at least not by profession; I do >

Re: Developers phone also fit for early adopters?

2007-01-25 Thread Marcel de Jong
On 1/26/07, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Marcel de Jong wrote: > Hello all, > I was wondering. I'm not a developer, at least not by profession; I do > have a degree in it but my coding skills are very rusty, I'm a > software tester (T

Re: Possibilities for commercial software?

2007-01-25 Thread Marcel de Jong
rust your customers. sincerely, Marcel de Jong ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Free This Mailing List! (was Re: GNU discussion (was re:Free your phone))

2007-01-25 Thread Marcel de Jong
an already stated; they will acknowledge the importance of GNU; how they do that is their decision. So please, let this discussion die. sincerely, Marcel de Jong On 1/25/07, Renaissance Man <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Are you denying that you lied about people "making demands"? No

Developers phone also fit for early adopters?

2007-01-25 Thread Marcel de Jong
ch. (can't wait till November or what was it again) :) Will the developers phone be ready for usage for non-developers too? greetings, Marcel de Jong ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

GNU discussion (was re:Free your phone)

2007-01-21 Thread Marcel de Jong
are of the history and ideals behind GNU and Linux. Let's not get lost in this bottomless pit of misconceptions and well-intended suggestions. And let's focus our efforts on making this phone a device which Just Works! :) This has been my two cents. -- Marcel de Jong _

Re: Linux vs. GNU/Linux

2007-01-21 Thread Marcel de Jong
On 1/21/07, Ole Tange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The discussion whether to call it Linux or GNU/Linux has been going on for some time and now it is also on this mailinglist. May I suggest a compromise: If you want to call it GNU/Linux, then call it GNU/Linux, but stop bothering people that calls

Re: Neither iPhone or OpenMoko are revolutionary

2007-01-18 Thread Marcel de Jong
ve for me. It's a nice-to-have. If my wallet allows it, I will get a rev. 1 of the Neo1971. Because the wifi is not a dealbreaker for me. -- Marcel On 1/19/07, Marcel de Jong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 1/18/07, Renaissance Man <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 18 Jan 2007

Re: Neither iPhone or OpenMoko are revolutionary

2007-01-18 Thread Marcel de Jong
On 1/18/07, Renaissance Man <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 18 Jan 2007, at 10:23 pm, Marcel de Jong wrote: > I ask you, who will pay the bandwidth bills? The bandwidth bills are largely already paid (home and work are flat rate), plus free hotspots, plus there's flat rate hotspo

Re: Neither iPhone or OpenMoko are revolutionary

2007-01-18 Thread Marcel de Jong
Hi renaissance man On 1/18/07, Renaissance Man <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, thanks for the interesting discussion. Sorry for riling a few people (happens when you challenge people's preconceptions). Look forward with eager anticipation to the Neo v2. Hopefully I wouldn't have been sucked int

Re: Register article

2007-01-16 Thread Marcel de Jong
On 1/16/07, Ben Fleming-Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Positive write-up in the Register, with one surprise... "Sean Moss-Pultz, the project's architect, expects the first samples of OpenMoko hardware to ship in March 2007." www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2007/01/15/open_phone/ March? Please say

Re: Gaming oportunities

2007-01-16 Thread Marcel de Jong
If the Neo has a multi touch touchscreen, we really should think outside of the box. Look at this demonstration by mr. Jeff Han to see an example of what might be possible :) http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5195605778138598326 And look at what Nintendo did with their DS. (though of cour

Re: Fwd: OpenMoko in my area?

2007-01-16 Thread Marcel de Jong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Bohme wrote: > Mike wrote: >> Marcel de Jong wrote: >>> ps. >>> I really don't like the fact that 'reply' doesn't work on this >>> mailinglist. I have to add the mailaddress myself. (this

Re: Fwd: OpenMoko in my area?

2007-01-15 Thread Marcel de Jong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Bohme wrote: > Mike wrote: >> Marcel de Jong wrote: >>> ps. >>> I really don't like the fact that 'reply' doesn't work on this >>> mailinglist. I have to add the mailaddress myself. (this

Fwd: OpenMoko in my area?

2007-01-15 Thread Marcel de Jong
On 1/15/07, Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm in the US, in New York city. What networks can I use a Neo1973 phone on? Do all GSM carriers accept all GSM phones? In contrast to CDMA phones, a GSM phone isn't normally locked to a carrier, only the GSM-chip (SIMcard) that is inside your GS

Fwd: Wish: easy connecting with linux

2007-01-15 Thread Marcel de Jong
-- Forwarded message -- From: Marcel de Jong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:43:16 + Subject: Re: Wish: easy connecting with linux To: Ole Tange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well what I'd like it to be is to connect the phone using the usbcable to

Wish: easy connecting with linux

2007-01-15 Thread Marcel de Jong
I'd like it if I could connect the phone to my Linux box and share my internet connection with the phone. Previous attempts with different devices failed for me. If this process could be simplified with the Openmoko, that would be great. ___ OpenMoko co

Re: no bottle opener Re: Open Moko - GPL?

2006-11-27 Thread Marcel de Jong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Michel wrote: > It's a pitty the Neo1973 will not have a case a frame > made by strong, but light magnesium alloy, with integrated, > fold-out bottle opener to open the beer. > Since years I'm waiting for a mobile with that... > Which real m

Re: Phone UI ideas

2006-11-27 Thread Marcel de Jong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This is actually a good idea, on multiple levels. Touch-screens are a large limitation to the people with less eye-sight. They are the reason that phones have that indentation or the small dot on the 5 key. (same reason also for the markings of the J a

Re: What will you do with yours?

2006-11-17 Thread Marcel de Jong
y the Neo will solve that problem for me. greetings from The Netherlands, Marcel de Jong ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community

re: Neo1973 and Bluetooth

2006-11-14 Thread Marcel de Jong
Given that many phone additions, for instance, handsfree sets nowadays use Bluetooth to communicate with the phone. It'd be very nice if that was added to the phone. :) Or is the carpack also a handsfree kit? :) many greetings, Marcel de Jong The Nether