Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-09 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia Wednesday 09 of April 2008, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen napisał: Optionally, they could make a GTA03w similar to GTA02 (with wifi), except with quad band GSM, and make a GTA03g with 3G (and quad band GSM) and without wifi. If they will get 3G modems then they should put them into all

Re: Web Browser?

2008-04-07 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia Monday 07 of April 2008, Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano napisał: Just a question, may be it was answered somewhere in th list but why webkit and not the gecko? 1. Memory usage of Gecko (most of leaks got fixed in 1.9) 2. Easy embedding of WebKit 3. Rapid development of WebKit. 4. WebKit

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-07 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia Monday 07 of April 2008, thomasg napisał: If you ask me: drop wifi, add hsdpa. But nobody asks me. :( HSDPA has sense IF you can have unlimited transfer. Here all operators sell few GB pack after which all you get is 16-32kbps. So I would prefer WiFi probably. But my next phone will

Re: TomTom on Openmoko?

2008-03-27 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia Thursday 27 of March 2008, joerg napisał: Am Do 27. März 2008 schrieb Sebastian Hammerl: Hi, as far as i know on the TomTom go devices is running Linux. So would it be possible to rip out the TomTom applikation and get it to work on Openmoko phone? It would be a great GPS

Re: TomTom on Openmoko?

2008-03-27 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia Thursday 27 of March 2008, Christ van Willegen napisał: Hi, On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Sebastian Hammerl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as far as i know on the TomTom go devices is running Linux. So would it be possible to rip out the TomTom applikation and get it to work on

Re: TomTom on Openmoko?

2008-03-27 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia Thursday 27 of March 2008, Marcus Bauer napisał: On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 14:05 +0100, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: Because OSM maps suxx? Lack details, lack streets, lack too many things to be usable? OSM is nice idea but it is only idea. It will never replace commercial maps. Hey

Re: TomTom on Openmoko?

2008-03-27 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia Thursday 27 of March 2008, Christ van Willegen napisał:  OSM is nice idea but it is only idea. It will never replace commercial maps. Have you seen the progress that's been made in The Netherlands? Have you seen how it was done? http://www.opengeodata.org/?p=223 Automotive

Re: TomTom on Openmoko?

2008-03-27 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia Thursday 27 of March 2008, Andy Powell napisał: On Thursday 27 March 2008 13:57, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: It was not done by community but by commercial company... So what. It's the license that counts. Sure that license is what counts. But I am tired of people telling

Re: GSoC ideas discussion (again)

2008-03-22 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia Saturday 22 of March 2008, Ilja O. napisał: I'm currently assembling GSoC proposal (student-side, Openmoko-related of course). I gave some thought to the projects themes, and here what I can see as projects, that I'd like to do (list sorted by 'me want to do this' in decreasing order).

Re: FreeRunner delayed a further 6 months?!?!??

2008-03-19 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia Wednesday 19 of March 2008, Tim Shannon napisał: Wow, this one trolls rant has been taken way too far.  Half the emails in my box have the subject of FreeRunner delayed a further 6 months?!?!?? And most of mails from this list are from people with broken keyboards (no Del key). -- JID:

Re: FreeRunner delayed a further 6 months?!?!??

2008-03-16 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia Saturday 15 of March 2008, Mark Haury napisał: In order for there to be competition, there has to be something available. The Trolltech Greenphone comes to mind, though, as its availability matches the Freerunner's at this point. Not to mention that's the origin of Qtopia that everybody

Re: fuse on openmoko

2008-03-14 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia Friday 14 of March 2008, Andy Green napisał: Somebody in the thread at some point said: Dnia Friday 14 of March 2008, Christoph Witzany napisał: Is there a fuse port for open embedded? If not maybe it could be a viable Google SoC project (provided it's not too trivial) ... Fuse

Re: About ipkg on Openmoko

2008-02-29 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia Friday 29 of February 2008, Xiangfu Liu napisał: #!/bin/sh echo ...ip address 192.168.0.200 ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 echo ...ip forward echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward modprobe iptable_nat iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE maybe work

Re: GTA02 processor speed

2008-01-03 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia czwartek, 3 stycznia 2008, rakshat hooja napisał: On the other hand the Open Moko wiki mentions that the GTA02 uses the Samsung S3C2442B chip capable of 400 MHz. Has the chip been overclocked or the info on the wiki is wrong and needs to be updated? The 3rd option. Wiki is correct,

Re:

2007-12-27 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia czwartek, 27 grudnia 2007, rakshat hooja napisał: Just wanted to inquire if anyone on this list has managed to get poky linux and sato to work with the Neo 1973. Poky Linux with Sato interface is what I have on my older Neo. To build it you need to have Poky working and then

Re: What to use while waiting of v2?

2007-12-16 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia niedziela, 16 grudnia 2007, Ben napisał: I can't hold out any longer. I need a PDA that will work as reliably as possble, have a few options for easy automatic sync (with Mac or Linux) or at least automatic backup. I will be using it to implement GTD (Getting Things Done). Phone not

Re: What to use while waiting of v2?

2007-12-16 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia niedziela, 16 grudnia 2007, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller napisał: Am 16.12.2007 um 21:54 schrieb Marcin Juszkiewicz: Any recent Windows Mobile PDA then. Fortunaltely, there is no need to do such a strange move for a MacLinux addict... There is the Sharp Zaurus which is amongst the best

Re: Community update: GSM firmware, 850MHz experiment, GTA02 progress

2007-12-09 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia poniedziałek, 10 grudnia 2007, Richard Reichenbacher napisał: I am a student at the University of Arizona and work for the IT department. We have one of the worlds largest Cisco Radius wifi setups in the world. Our main wifi network uses wpa enterprise with peap authentication and the

Re: 2007.11 snapshot available

2007-12-05 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia środa, 5 grudnia 2007, Krzysztof Kajkowski napisał: T9 is not necessary important (i.e. I do not use english on my phone   so probably I would need to hack it to include polish T9 database). It   is useful in SMSes but not on writing URLs or console ;) T9 is useful not only in SMSes but

Re: Professional applications

2007-11-30 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia piątek, 30 listopada 2007, Galevsky napisał: I think about writing the list of professional applications that can be loaded on such a hardware. IMHO, this phone would become easily your best friend in meetings wether it provides the good applications... I am thinking about Mind Mapping.

Re: GTA02b4 in februari and Fosdem 2008

2007-11-30 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia piątek, 30 listopada 2007, Christ van Willegen napisał: So, two questions: - How sure is it that I have my Neo in my hands on feb 22nd 2008 - Has a Jabber client been ported alredy? It need not be a flashy GUI version, a text version would suffice. s/ported/built/ you mean? There are

Re: When will usb host driver be available in OM kernel?

2007-11-09 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia piątek, 9 listopada 2007, Bartlomiej Zdanowski [Zdanek] napisał: As far as I know there's no USB host driver in OM kernel, so even if external USB device is self powered or power connector is attached there's no chance to connect anything to Neo. USB Host driver is present from nearly

Re: Is Google developing a phone after all?

2007-11-09 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia piątek, 9 listopada 2007, Attila Csipa napisał: I wouldn't be surprised if Google made a prototype/reference phone, for testing (just like Trolltech did with the Greenphone) and to eliminate any hardware obstacles/delays that might be caused by other manufacturers. Trolltech did not

Re: Is Google developing a phone after all?

2007-11-09 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia piątek, 9 listopada 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał: announcing the public git tree for the Qualcomm MSM7K. This could just be the platform the android guys have been using for development. However, why would they go to all the trouble of porting Linux to a new SoC when there are many

Re: Community Update

2007-11-01 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia środa, 31 października 2007, Shawn Rutledge napisał: On 10/31/07, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That seems utterly ridiculous to me. A binary is a binary. If you have source *IF* you have a source... It looks like OpenMoko Inc lack source and got OABI binary from vendor of

Re: Some feedback from using the neo as a phone for a day

2007-10-16 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia wtorek, 16 października 2007, Thomas Wood napisał: The current crashes are more likely to be in one of the panel applets. I suspect gsm applet - when it can not connect to gsmd it crash. During start of X11 there are few restarts of gsmd... -- JID: hrw-jabber.org OpenEmbedded

Re: I'm new in this list

2007-10-13 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia sobota, 13 października 2007, Graham Williams napisał: Not quite true that you can't make calls! Many have been making calls and messaging. Just not all that easy (e.g., using ssh/command line interfaces). With phone upgraded to latest software (ipkg update;ipkg upgrade) you should be

Re: ATI to provide specs (was: Re: SMedia 3362)

2007-09-10 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia poniedziałek, 10 września 2007, Shawn Rutledge napisał: On 9/10/07, Harald Welte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't understand before that it would end up being 100% open source. I thought you had to sign an NDA? But if the driver is to be completely open, and the documents are to be

Re: AW: omit qemu from OE build?

2007-09-03 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia poniedziałek, 3 września 2007, Francesco Riosa napisał: on gentoo try: Also try to remove not needed content from mail. Would be good to try to answer under post not on top of it. # gcc-config 1 # source /etc/profile # gcc-config 7 # make build-qemu || stuff you need to compile with

Re: SMedia 3362

2007-09-02 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia niedziela, 2 września 2007, Shawn Rutledge napisał: What about the ATI chip used in the iPAQ hx4700?  Did anybody figure out anything beyond plain framebuffer support for it? hx4700 use ATI W100 Imageon about which I already wrote. AFAIK it has accelerated framebuffer and X11 driver with

Re: SMedia 3362

2007-09-01 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia sobota, 1 września 2007, Giles Jones napisał: On 1 Sep 2007, at 17:11, Mikko Rauhala wrote: You're implying there are better choices... I wouldn't know since I've not looked into such things. But ATI have mobile GPUs and are open sourcing desktop drivers, maybe they would do the same

Re: SMedia 3362

2007-09-01 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia sobota, 1 września 2007, Shawn Rutledge napisał: What about the XScale accelerators?  There was one designed specifically as a companion to the PXA270.  Are they more open? Intel 2700G? It is closed - the only source released was mess afaik. My Zaurus has a TC6393; it has line-drawing

Re: At the risk of being flamed : State of software

2007-08-25 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia piątek, 24 sierpnia 2007, wim delvaux napisał: Knowing that the device is now about 6 months late and looking at the overall stability and completeness of the GUI (List of issues is still long perhaps too long ?) I wonder if it would not have been a better solution to put things like

Re: At the risk of being flamed : State of software

2007-08-25 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia niedziela, 26 sierpnia 2007, Lorn Potter napisał: On Sun, 26 Aug 2007, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: The problem with QTopia is that you will get GPL version (so no commercial applications for it) or will force OpenMoko into license payments. OpenMoko Neo is a 'free' phone, why would

Re: compile problem: OOM when compiling

2007-08-22 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia poniedziałek, 20 sierpnia 2007, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer napisał: Andreas Jellinghaus wrote: When compiling busybox (from memory need to check) cc1 started eating 900M and soon my system was no longer useable. Busybox is a defconfig type buildsystem. Let me guess... it hangs during

Re: tinylogin: file can not be created! error on do_rootfs

2007-08-22 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia środa, 22 sierpnia 2007, Myk Melez napisał: Does anyone know what the problem might be and how to resolve it? mtn pull;mtn update in OE metadata directory. -- JID: hrw-jabber.org OpenEmbedded developer/consultant Could you please speak more slowly? I'm a masochist

Re: Free Linux distro targets smartphones

2007-08-03 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia piątek, 3 sierpnia 2007, Krzysztof Kajkowski napisał: OpenedHand is offering pre-built Poky 3.0 kernels, modules, and root filesystem images for a several popular development targets, including: Nokia N800 web tablet (experimental) OpenMoko GTA01 (FIC-GTA01) (experimental) Hmm, anyone

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-22 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia sobota, 21 lipca 2007, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller napisał: Well, I would suggest to use the existing Open Embedded forum   (previously this was the Zaurus User Group): www.oesf.org and ask to   create new subsections there OESF forums are NOT OpenEmbedded forums. It is common mistake. --

Re: Neo1973 Update!

2007-06-04 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia niedziela, 3 czerwca 2007, Oleg Gusev napisał: Am Sonntag, 3. Juni 2007 17:00 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Phase 2 (GTA-02) will feature: -a 2D/3D-Graphics Accelerator This one needs more clarification. I doubt that it will be some ATI chipset. Looking at recently released code from

Re: Fwd: tomtom on the Neo1973

2007-05-30 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia środa, 30 maja 2007, Thomas Gstädtner napisał: Well, OpenMoko still is mainly a phone platform, not a gps platform. ;) The Neo will me sold als phone with the option to install software, not because of its GPS chip. One of reasons why my friend bought HTC Artemis phone was GPS unit and

Re: HXD8?

2007-05-26 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia sobota, 26 maja 2007, Frank Coenen napisał: and a low-res widescreen: (from \src\target\kernel\patcheshxd8-core.patch) +/* LCD driver info */ [...] + .width = 480, + .height = 272, So it will be media player? - 480x272 is good for viewing DVD rips... -- JID: hrw-jabber.org

Re: Ubuntu Mobile and Embedded

2007-05-07 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia poniedziałek, 7 maja 2007, Jon Phillips napisał: On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 09:28 -0500, Jonathon Suggs wrote: Don't know if people saw this or not, but Ubuntu just announced that they will be working on mobile and embedded distros. I'm not sure what all their goals are, and how they align

Re: Size and weight considerations for future Openmoko devices

2007-05-02 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia środa, 2 maja 2007, Andreas Kostyrka napisał: It's a smartphone, so let's compare it to smartphones: Nokia 9500: 56.9mm x 148.1mm x 23.9mm 229.9g T-mobile MDA compact III: 58.0mm x 108.0mm x 17.0mm 127.0g T-mobile Vario II:58.0mm x 113.0mm x 22.0mm 160.0g Nokia

Re: Size and weight considerations for future Openmoko devices

2007-05-02 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia środa, 2 maja 2007, Steven ** napisał: It's just another Windows PDA/phone.  Boring. It is also small, light and have interesting input device which allow to do most of tasks with one hand. Most of current devices are boring. Neo is also huge and thick. Battery cover feel like 'I will

Re: Widgets: Openmoko/Chumby transproject?

2007-04-25 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia środa, 25 kwietnia 2007, Joe Pfeiffer napisał: The neo has a closed source real time OS running the GSM part... OS?  It's been said pretty consistently that it's a user-mode daemon. Still one more piece of closed source software than I like to see, but not an OS. Closed source daemon

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-24 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia wtorek, 24 kwietnia 2007, Vladimír Lapáček napisał: I would like to ask about the decision to use the 2.5 mm audio jack in Neo 1973. If it is seriously intended to be used as a music player, people would most likely use their ordinary headphones. In my opinion most widely used audio jack

Re: Poky on the neo | e17 on openmoko

2007-04-11 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia sobota, 7 kwietnia 2007, Florent THIERY napisał: Hi, i was wondering if someone tried to use poky on the neo. I could be a good work environment (for application testing, touchscreen behaviour tweaking...) http://projects.o-hand.com/poky OpenedHand (company which created and maintain

Re: Adapter for MicroSD Card

2007-03-27 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia wtorek, 27 marca 2007, Jonathon Suggs napisał: Will there be a standard SD card adapter for reading/writing to the included microSD card from a PC? My Neo came with such adapter. -- JID: hrw-jabber.org OpenEmbedded developer/consultant Five is a sufficiently close approximation to

Re: No stylus on V1 release?

2007-03-26 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia poniedziałek, 26 marca 2007, Ewan Marshall napisał: My first stereo had a infared laser remote. Now I know why people insist on having WiFi in neo1973 phone. When everyone quote everything just to add one line traffic on GPRS line will be too expensive to just read mails from ML. Hint:

Re: No stylus on V1 release?

2007-03-25 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia niedziela, 25 marca 2007, Elrond napisał: But as all laser pointers are battery powered, what's about just not putting batteries in the stylus? _Guessing_ from koen's unboxing the neo pictures, the batteries are shipped seperately, so you just don't install them in the first place and

Re: Flash Player 9 on OpenMoko?

2007-03-22 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia czwartek, 22 marca 2007, Edwin Lock napisał: I have flash on my nokia 770, that works fine and its an ARM9 if I'm correct? So why not use the implementation that nokia has? It works just fine for me.. Nokia paid to have Flash on Nokia 770/n800. You can't use it on other devices without

Re: Reminder: Google SoC application deadline in 4 days

2007-03-20 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia wtorek, 20 marca 2007, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer napisał: there are only 4 (four) project applications until now, which is kind of surprising, given the huge amount of ideas that were floating both on the mailing lists and on the wiki. Keep in mind people that if there will be no more

Re: Google SoC, To-Do

2007-03-19 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia niedziela, 18 marca 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał: I have already posted an application for Footer. Maybe as sidework I will write To-Do app. I definetly need one on modile, and quite complicated one. OpenedHand created application named 'Tasks' which would be trivial to port to

Re: Crossroads

2007-03-14 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia środa, 14 marca 2007, Mike napisał: If what you say is true, I can't imagine what the business case is for expensive third-party phones.  Here's a $350 device, good luck getting it to be useful. Pick a two year contract and cross your fingers. Expensive? Unlocked Nokia 6280 costs same

Re: [openmoko-announce] Crossroads

2007-03-14 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia środa, 14 marca 2007, Imre Kaloz napisał: On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:07:45 +0100, Grahame Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] What about the Marvell® 88W8385 module used on the wifistix Open source drivers can be found at http://gumstix.com No open source drivers for that either. If you check the

Re: Crossroads

2007-03-13 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia wtorek, 13 marca 2007, Sean Moss-Pultz napisał: OpenMoko is built around the philosophy that far more knowledge exists outside the walls of a corporation than within. Internally, we're struggling with two issues. So we're throwing this out, hoping that some of you have can help us move

Re: Crossroads

2007-03-13 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia wtorek, 13 marca 2007, Imre Kaloz napisał: Regarding the USB ones, the Atmel is pretty much EOL'ed as far as I know, and the driver for the others are not stable nor too portable. Not portable? There are users or ARM (Xscale, IOP) machines which use ralink and zydas dongles with their

Re: Idea: Protective Screen Foil

2007-03-12 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia piątek, 9 marca 2007, Marcin Juszkiewicz napisał: My Phase0 phone came with screen protector applied (I need to open case and reapply protector to get rid of bubbles). Today I finally opened device - this is normal foil for transportation not screen protector. -- JID: hrw-jabber.org

Re: Idea: Protective Screen Foil

2007-03-09 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia piątek, 9 marca 2007, Elrond napisał: After talking to a few people on irc, it became obvious, that the screen is really superb. And to cite someone from irc: [...] you don't want to ruin that with fingerprints and scratches :-) So the obvious solution are screen

Re: coverage at linuxdevices.com

2007-03-04 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia niedziela, 4 marca 2007, Joe Pfeiffer napisał: Andreas Kostyrka writes: Just wondering, but did I get that right, the Hackers version that will be available this month will only be a developers board, without a phone casing = unuseable as a mobile phone in day-to-day operations, right?

Re: Back from FOSDEM

2007-02-27 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia poniedziałek, 26 lutego 2007, Robert Michel napisał: Here is a polnish forum about the allegro offeres: http://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic656979.html (I can't understand it but Li-Pol 1600mAh = 9,2mm?) *Polish* not 'polnish' ;) Summary from that forum thread on elektroda.pl: No one

Re: Back from FOSDEM

2007-02-26 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia poniedziałek, 26 lutego 2007, kkr napisał: Le lundi 26 février 2007 à 17:27 +0100, Stefan Schmidt a écrit : On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 16:57, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: So we now know that the Nokia BL5C is a compatible battery which is The highest capacity I found for this type until

Re: Wifi (was Re: community Digest, Vol 15, Issue 1)

2007-02-19 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia poniedziałek, 19 lutego 2007, Martin Lefkowitz napisał: Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 07:58:04 +0100 From: Marcin Juszkiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marvel 8385 can be connected to SDIO, CF, SPI and it is one of chips you are talking about. Yes, and it looks like there is at least a project

Re: hi-res Neo1973 pictures

2007-02-18 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia niedziela, 18 lutego 2007, Krzysztof Kajkowski napisał: Hi! I just wrote article about OpenMoko for biggest free polish students newspaper (I am also a journalist there). Would anyone be so kind to point me any hi-res pictures of Neo1973 so we could print them out in our newspaper? Or

Re: community Digest, Vol 14, Issue 50

2007-02-18 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia niedziela, 18 lutego 2007, Martin Lefkowitz napisał: Marvell is a different story.  They have an SDIO system that has (I believe) an ARM inside.  They do even more inside the chip.  They do all the MAC level functions inside the chip.  This is going to be a problem for the company since

Re: Perl or Python on openembedded?

2007-02-10 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia sobota, 10 lutego 2007, Joshua Hoblitt napisał: Does anyone know if Perl or Python will build on openembbeded/ep93xx? Both languages are supported. Perl 5.8.7, Python 2.4.x -- JID: hrw-jabber.org OpenEmbedded developer/consultant You can close your eyes to reality, but not to

Re: [moved to community mailinglist]Re: ruby in openmoko

2007-02-01 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia czwartek, 1 lutego 2007 11:43, Robert Michel napisał: On Thu, 01 Feb 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am new to this mailing list. I have not seen any email mentioning Ruby and Rails. I am a newbie to ruby. But heard that ruby is a programming language that can make life of a

Re: A cool device must have a powerfull e-book reader

2007-01-26 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia czwartek, 25 stycznia 2007 07:06, Ketut P. Kumajaya napisał: I have ported FBReader for Motorola E680i/A780 mobile phone and I am sure FBReader author only need a couple hour time to make it run on OpenMoko if he has access to OpenMoko device. FBReader is GTK application. OpenEmbedded has

Re: Possibilities for commercial software?

2007-01-26 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia piątek, 26 stycznia 2007 09:24, Tomasz Zielinski napisał: 2007/1/26, Ortwin Regel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: hotsync ID, one device, one SD card... Even if it does not work. It would be nice if some more developers could be convinced that Prepare fancy build system with compilation on demand,

Re: Combine a SoC and memory on a SD card or Usb device...Re: Possibilities for commercial software?

2007-01-26 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia piątek, 26 stycznia 2007 13:55, Robert Michel napisał: For real paranoid sellers: Build a chip with memory and an embedded system on a microSD card or mini usb device and sell this. Use an unique encryption for every embdded system so that even hacking out the program from the embedded

Re: Developers phone also fit for early adopters?

2007-01-26 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia piątek, 26 stycznia 2007 19:24, Marcus Bauer napisał: But if you can produce enough phones, than let all the early adopters have them, whether they are developers or not. In projects like this it is normal to write that phones in Phase 0/1 are target to developers. It is other way to say

Re: How to get involved (HELP!!!)

2007-01-25 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia czwartek, 25 stycznia 2007 20:02, Rodolphe Ortalo napisał: MACHINE = native will use your host toolchain and will build binaries for your environment. You can also use MACHINE = progear (its my x86 webpad config) and then use resulting packages/rootfs under chroot or qemu. Is it

Re: How to get involved (HELP!!!)

2007-01-24 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia środa, 24 stycznia 2007 22:26, Rodolphe Ortalo napisał: As someone else said, we've been asked to do some homework with the OpenEmbedded.org build system. Maybe that was just to reserve adequate space on the hard drive... (takes a lot!) Add: INHERIT += rm_work into conf/local.conf and

Re: How to get involved (HELP!!!)

2007-01-24 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia środa, 24 stycznia 2007 23:00, Rodolphe Ortalo napisał: Thanks for the hint! Please reply UNDER post. Btw, is it possible to build the applications in the native (build host) format too for running under xoo or are they built only in the target format (armv4t IIUC)? MACHINE = native

Re: BT Vehicle Profiles

2007-01-23 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia wtorek, 23 stycznia 2007 17:41, Duncan Hudson napisał: The vehicle in question is a Range Rover HSE.  The car isn't mine, it's a company car.  The phone in question is one of the phones that I have to support so logically the fact that they won't connect is my problem!   My thinking was,

Re: BTW could be the protocolls propritary and with the need to pay licence fees? Re: BT Vehicle Profiles

2007-01-23 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia wtorek, 23 stycznia 2007 18:46, Robert Michel napisał: But does maybe there any propritry protocolls out there which would costs licence fees? Maybe - we will see when we will get 'sdptool browse' output. BTW.. Duncan: please send full output of this command rather - I remind that some

Re: built-in scripting languages

2007-01-22 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia poniedziałek, 22 stycznia 2007 21:45, Corey napisał: I would recommend lua, it's extremely light-weight ( we're talking about 6 megs here ) 6M??? http://openzaurus.linuxtogo.org/feed-browser/?name=luaaction=search show that it will take much less then 1M -- JID: hrw-jabber.org

Re: Signal-to-noise ratio

2007-01-21 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia poniedziałek, 22 stycznia 2007 04:51, Corey napisał: On Sunday 21 January 2007 20:43, Greg Tada wrote: I'd like to help out this project, I really would. But when zealots like Renaissance Man (Who calls themselves that? Yeah that's not pretentious at all) et al hijack this list for

Re: is google.com down? Move this list to a BB/Forum system?

2007-01-19 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia piątek, 19 stycznia 2007 07:55, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller napisał: I read from all this the hint that we should start to sort out and better archive topics by having different tool than an e-mail list. Let us move to a phpBB (or whatever you like) system. Reading forum needs time,

Re: Sync from Kalendar/Address to KDEPIM

2007-01-18 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia czwartek, 18 stycznia 2007 20:28, Eildert Groeneveld napisał: When it comes to uses of a samrt phone, the thing that I really consider important is to use Kalendar, addresses and mailing on either my (Linux) laptop or the smartphone. Here, the Treo/Palm has proven useful, but

Re: what is the difference between openMoko and windows mobile based phones

2007-01-18 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia czwartek, 18 stycznia 2007 20:23, Robert Michel napisał: this NSLU2 box is new - I desided to buy a NSLU2 because it is also ARM powered like the Neo1973 :) Your NSLU2 is/will be also powered by distro built with usage of the same buildsystem as Neo1973 - OpenEmbedded. and it is

Re: Fwd: OpenMoko in my area?

2007-01-16 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia wtorek, 16 stycznia 2007 00:45, Marcel de Jong napisał: I really don't like the fact that 'reply' doesn't work on this mailinglist. I have to add the mailaddress myself. (this is the only mailinglist that I know, that does that this way) Nearly all lists which I read are configured

Re: Wish: easy connecting with linux

2007-01-16 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia poniedziałek, 15 stycznia 2007 22:45, Sven Neuhaus napisał: Get bluetooth for your PC, establish a PPP link via the serial port profile and you're set. No additional software required (if you run linux on your PC). PAN is much easier and does not add any extra layers. -- JID:

Re: Storage + Re: The actual release date of NEO1973

2007-01-15 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia sobota, 13 stycznia 2007 14:04, Ole Tange napisał: I also would expect FIC already has at least one distributer in EU that can cover all of EU. From a shipping cost perspective it will probably make sense, too. From my informations there will be atleast one company in EU which will sell

Re: Real Neo1973 photo / Neo delayed...!?

2007-01-10 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia środa, 10 stycznia 2007 10:06, Sean Moss-Pultz napisał: Standard Kit: * 120.7 x 62 x 18.5 (mm) A bit bigger then my current SE k750i (100 x 46 x 20,5) but thinner. * 1200 mAh battery (charged over USB) * 128 MB SDRAM nice two * 64 MB NAND Flash :( too bad there is no space left for

Re: Real Neo1973 photo / Neo delayed...!?

2007-01-10 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia środa, 10 stycznia 2007 16:24, Jonas Meyer napisał: Is the Bluetooth A2DP? IE, can we use stereo headsets and will it therefore make a better iPod than the iPhone? ;) With 64M flash and 1G card? -- JID: hrw-jabber.org OpenEmbedded developer/consultant That must be

Re: Real Neo1973 photo / Neo delayed...!?

2007-01-10 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia środa, 10 stycznia 2007 21:00, Jonas Meyer napisał: Besides, there are only 3 capacities of portable music player: 1) Small enough such that you have to change it around constantly 2) Large enough such that you can store all the music you regularly listen to. 3) Large enough to store

Re: Internal flash size

2006-12-21 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia środa, 20 grudnia 2006 19:00, Jeff Andros napisał: User - yes, developer - no. To get working toolchain installed I need 128M for rootfs. as far as I know this is going to be like any other embedded device, you're crosscompiling so the toolchain lives on your lappy /desktop where

Internal flash size

2006-12-20 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
It is easy to find 2GB usb sticks on market for 20 EUR. FIC Phone will get 64MB (preliminary specs)... Can it get more? 512MB or more with good partitioning (/ + /home) would be nice -- JID: hrw-jabber.org OpenEmbedded developer/consultant Don't panic. Count to ten ... then

Re: Internal flash size

2006-12-20 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia środa, 20 grudnia 2006 16:27, Paul Bohme napisał: Remember that this is still a phone..  Your general 'user' to whom this needs to appeal will probably be hard pressed to fill the flash provided.   User - yes, developer - no. To get working toolchain installed I need 128M for rootfs. So

Re: capacitor to call the police without battery and SIM card *g* Re: Fun with Stolen/Lost Phones..

2006-12-15 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia piątek, 15 grudnia 2006 21:00, Koen Kooi napisał: A phone that sends an sms to itself every week, how is that going to stop a thief that has my phone + simcard? You have only one cellphone? :D -- JID: hrw-jabber.org OpenEmbedded developer/consultant If you're going down in

Re: ideas with SMS

2006-12-07 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia czwartek, 7 grudnia 2006 19:44, Gabriel Ambuehl napisał: Why not go all the way and use Jabber instead? Surely that should be cheaper than the ripoff prices for SMS we usually see... As long as phone will be able to keep GPRS session connected all the time it could be good. I pay per

Re: Text entry

2006-12-01 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia piątek, 1 grudnia 2006 02:20, David Ormsbee napisał: So when I first heard about this phone, I mocked up this idea: http://dave.hereticmonkey.com/musings/phone_keyboard.html Just my two cent idea. Criticisms/improvements are certainly welcome. Did you thought about languages other

Re: voice recgonition

2006-11-29 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia środa, 29 listopada 2006 07:26, Jeff Andros napisał: Hey! and OpenMoKo is supposed to be build compatible with Zaurus apps, right? so we're half way there This days OpenEmbedded can build applications in a way to be compatible with so called SharpROM but normal people use normal

Re: (re)charging control

2006-11-28 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia poniedziałek, 27 listopada 2006 18:30, Robert Michel napisał: On Mon, 27 Nov 2006, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: 1. user is at home (where is charger) There is no need for a propritary charger ;) The charger will be a normal powerd USB port, so you can also - charge it at work

(re)charging control

2006-11-27 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
One thing which annoyed me in all cellphones is charging control. How many times you discovered that phone need charging but you have to go to work? Or even worse you discovered it when you got important call to do and no way to charge phone? I'm thinking about adding posibility to warn user