MiniOne

[Mario Wewer]

Hello community,

does anyone of you already have a "Meizu MiniOne" Phone?
The phone looks very interesting for me (just made a small impression of it - 
like the iPhone)...
It is really cheap (when the given prices are the right ones) Only GPS is 
missing... And maybe UMTS...
Prices: ca. $195/~149€ (4GB ohne Kamera), $310/~237€ (4GB mit 
Kamera),$285/~217€ (8GB ohne Kamera) und $400/~305€ (8GB mit Kamera)

But it is running WindowsMobile... :-( So - do you think it could be possible 
to run OpenMoko on this phone?!

* ARM11 533MHZ Prozessor
* 128MB DDR SDRAM Cache
* EDGE, GSM und WCDMA
* Windows Mobile 6.0 Betriebssystem
* Video Decoder CODEC
* 3,32″ TFT, VGA (720 x 480), 16 Millionen Farben Touchscreen
* 3 Megapixel Kamera sowie 0,3 Megapixel VGA Kamera für Konferenzen 
(Autofocus, kein Blitz)
* Bluetooth (mit GPS Zugang) , Line Out mit DMB Support, Wi-Fi mit Wireless 
Karte
* 1600mAH Akku
* Möglichkeit von 720 x 480 AVI, MPEG4, WMV Videos mit 30ftps

Greetings,
Mario

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Re: New input method demo!

[Mario Wewer]

Hi,

I watched the demo... Looks nice!

Maybe I have an interesting idea for you we could talk about...

I know that this is only a demo, but for the better productivity (less training 
needed) it would be nice if you would build up a "standard keyboard layout"

I mean - first button means 
"Space" - then "left" (better a circle left - like iPods) jumps a step left (as 
long as I "draw" the circle) to "ALT","STRG" ,...)
If I raise the finger and then scratch up it goes to the upper next line 
"yxcvbnm,.-" where the 'b' or 'n' is highlightet" That sounds easy I hope?! 
What do you think?!
Maybe then the capital keys could be used by one of the three starting 
buttons...

Possibilitys of selecting:
- pressing : select
- press and move up : go up one selection line
- press and move down : go gown one selection line
- press and move left : go left one character
-> press and move left in a circle left go left for as many characters as the 
circle "moves"
- ...



The keys in the currently selected row could be shown in a list right above the 
button...
(I use your ascii from the readme)

|*  *|
  y x c v* bbb  *n m , . -   <<< scrolls through the screen with the currently 
selectet in the middle
|*__*|

||
|SHFT* SEL  *CTRL|
|*__*|

Was it understandable what I meant??

What do you think of this way of typing?!

Best regards,
Mario




- Original Message -
From: "Simon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "List for OpenMoko community discussion" 
Sent: Freitag, 26. Oktober 2007 4.44 Uhr (GMT+0100) Europe/Berlin
Subject: Re: New input method demo!

Or you can read the Readme, there's an ascii drawing and the two
paragraph helps you understand how it's used.

Simon

On 10/25/07, Lars Hallberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Vincent skrev:
> > On 25/10/2007, *Zalunin Pavel*
> >
> > yeah, please let us see
> >
> > I've made a screencast:
>
> Thanks /LaH
>
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Zimbra and OpenMoko

[Mario Wewer]

Hello,

does anyone of you also use the open source version of the zimbra (web-) 
mail-server?

Okay - this is a little offtopic. :-)

I am currently thinking of how to sync with openmoko or if I can only use the 
web-mail client But then the contacts needed to be synced... (I would only 
be able to export them and import them again to the neo (and the other way)

Maybe anyone of you already solved that problem?

Greetings

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Re: Release schedule GTA-2

[Mario Wewer]

So - does anyone know anything about shipping GTA02 phase-1 devices?
Will they be marked as "developer-equipment" and maybe also sold with a 
"special price" like the GTA01 devices?

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From: "mokoNinja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "List for OpenMoko community discussion" 
Sent: Mittwoch, 29. August 2007 10.40 Uhr (GMT+0100) Europe/Berlin
Subject: Re: Release schedule GTA-2


On Aug 28, 2007, at 8:49 AM, Marco Barreno wrote:

> Right--the phase is tied to the progress of the software and the
> readiness of the phone.  The same three phases will apply to future
> devices.  GTA01 vs. GTA02 is an issue of hardware platform: GTA01 is a
> certain set of hardware components, and GTA02 is the next revision of
> the hardware.  So GTA02 phase-1 is the next version of the hardware
> (with wi-fi, better battery, etc.) but still in the development stage
> where it is aimed at developers.

I think this sums it up pretty well.
We`re no where close to a 'mass-market release' at the current stage.
I have some pictures of GTA02a1 and GTA02a2 (still in progress) here  
for anyone interested:

http://people.openmoko.org/ninjutsu/

Cheers,






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Re: Earliest possible release date for GTA02 - is it past October?

[Mario Wewer]

Does this
 > http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-August/009491.html
mean, that the first neos of GTA02-release are possibly again a 
developers-release? And will be shipped/declared as a developers-version? Then 
we won't have to pay an import fee - right?

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From: "Ian Stirling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "List for OpenMoko community discussion" 
Sent: Sonntag, 26. August 2007 13.22 Uhr (GMT+0100) Europe/Berlin
Subject: Re: Earliest possible release date for GTA02 - is it past October?

Steven ** wrote:
>> On 8/25/07, *Ian Stirling* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> > wrote:
>> 
>> It would be nice to have some information on this.
>> 
>> Is it still plausible that if everything falls right, GTA02 can be
>> produced in volume, in time for purchased units to be supplied in volume
>>   to developers in October?
>> 
 > See
 > http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-August/009491.html
 >

I missed that somehow.

Which answers it - assuming that Phase 1 is shipping to developers.

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Re: VMWare-Image (again)

[Mario Wewer]

While waiting for the image, I tried this QEmu in the WIKI-Section - I am not 
sure why, but everything within the neo-Emu seems to be very slow! I have to 
wait a couple of seconds (~10 with 99% CPU) until anything after a pen-touch 
happens... :-(
Is this the normal behavior?? I tested it on two different PCs (Both Windows 
XP, ~2,4GHz P4/AMD)

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From: "Rafa Couto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mario Wewer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "openmoko-community" 
Sent: Dienstag, 7. August 2007 13.58 Uhr (GMT+0100) Europe/Berlin
Subject: Re: VMWare-Image (again)




Is there now any working vmware image with all compilation-relevant files 
including the emulator downloadable?! Preferable with some demos? I just want 
to "start and begin coding" without having to set up the whole system... 

There is QEmu images at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_under_QEMU . 
QEMU is a generic and open source machine emulator and virtualizer: 
http://www.qemu.org/ 

The real advantage of QEmu over VMWare is QEmu can be updated to support 
Neo1973 hardware (another Open Source feature :-). It is a work-in-progress and 
when it's more mature it is going to be submitted for merging to the main QEMU 
development tree... 


-- 
Rafa Couto - http://caligari.treboada.net 
GNU/Linux user #99126 - http://counter.li.org 

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Gaming with the Neo

[Mario Wewer]

Anyone of you ever saw something like this?

http://www.amazon.de/Handy-GamePad-Bluetooth-Smartphones-Pocket/dp/B000H8TQSM/ref=sr_1_57/028-7732093-9147747?ie=UTF8&s=ce-de&qid=1186487069&sr=1-57

I just found this solution on the german Amazon-Page... Seems like a VERY CHEAP 
alternative (~25€) to use the Neo as a gaming-platform... (connected to the 
phone via bluetooth)


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VMWare-Image (again)

[Mario Wewer]

Once more this discussion
Is there now any working vmware image with all compilation-relevant files 
including the emulator downloadable?! Preferable with some demos? I just want 
to "start and begin coding" without having to set up the whole system... 

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Re: Build environment with MokoMakefile on FreeBSD / amd64?

[Mario Wewer]

So - does anyone of you already has a running VMWARE image with all 
openmoko-relevant applications running?!

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From: "Torfinn Ingolfsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: community@lists.openmoko.org
Sent: Donnerstag, 19. Juli 2007 11.59 Uhr (GMT+0100) Europe/Berlin
Subject: Re: Build environment with MokoMakefile on FreeBSD / amd64?

Hello,

On 7/19/07, Krzysztof Kajkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I had the same error on my MacOS X. It has something to do with glibc
> header which exists on Linux but not on FreeBSD. You can read about my
> attemts here:
>
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_under_QEMU_on_MacOSX

I see. It would be nice to find a workaround for this, but I don't
think I know enough do that.


> I asked for help on OE mailing lists. Someone responded that he has a
> patch for this but I could not find it.

Interesting.
Do you have a reference to that thread in mailinglist archives?

> What does 'kldload aio' do? Maybe there is something like this on Mac?

'aio is a kernel modue for async i/o, see the man page:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=aio
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Re: Binary tarball of toolchain/build environment

[Mario Wewer]

Maybe anybody could build a vmware image with all development tools already 
installed? That would make it much easier for us..? (at least for me...)
(Then it would be possible to develope even on a MS mashine *smile*)

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From: "Hans van der Merwe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "openmoko" 
Sent: Freitag, 13. Juli 2007 15.29 Uhr (GMT+0100) Europe/Berlin
Subject: Re: Binary tarball of toolchain/build environment


On Fri, 2007-07-13 at 15:00 +0200, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
> On 7/13/07, vivek khurana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  You can try mokomake file. It has target for compiling qemu and
> > running qemu. As for direct connection, try setting proxy variable in
> > shell to connect a machine behind firewalled proxy server.
> 
> FWIW, the MokoMakefile worked great for me on Xubuntu 7.04.
> Just make sure you have installed the required packages first.
> I had to install gcc-3.4 and sdl (devel) in order for 'make qemu' to work.

Well, on openSUSE 10.2 I get 

"Can't install openembedded-essential_1.1-1: no package provides python
>= 2.3"

When trying to install openembedded-essential via smart packagemanger
pointing to http://www.openembedded.org/dl/

I have python 2.5 installed.

Any ideas?





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Re: Store info - shipping costs to Germany

[Mario Wewer]

That's a point I hope, too! When this will happen soon - latest in October with 
the public-release (because Wifi is a must have for me) - we won't have to 
group-order the phone...


(sorry Al - my fault)
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From: "Al Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Montag, 9. Juli 2007 12.37 Uhr (GMT+0100) Europe/Berlin
Subject: Re: Store info - shipping costs to Germany

On Monday 09 July 2007 10:39, Sven Neuhaus wrote:
> FYI, shipping to Germany:
>
>  Neo BaseNeo Advance
>  1x  2x  3x 4x1x   2x
> WORLDWIDE_EXPEDITED $71.85  $83.14  $94.15 $114.52  $104.99  $134.16
> SAVER   $75.19  $88.25 $100.73 $118.89  $112.08  $139.04
> WORLDWIDE_EXPRESS   $77.46  $90.23 $103.00 $121.73  $114.35  $142.16
> WORLDWIDE_EXPRESS_PLUS $122.86 $135.63 $148.40 $167.13  $159.75  $187.56
>
> Looks like shipping from within the EU (as promised) didn't happen yet.
> Will it be in place by October?

Similar prices for shipping to UK. I was going to get the Advance now and the 
GTA02 in October, but with these shipping prices and maybe import duties on 
top I'll have to rethink. Will the promised shipping from within the EU 
happen any time soon?

> Seems like "worldwide_express" is the best option for most since it's not
> much more expensive than the cheaper options but probably up to 2 days
> faster.
>
> Regards,
> -Sven Neuhaus
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Pictures

[Mario Wewer]

Are there any pictures of the phone from the back side and from the top?!
I can only find pictures from the front and the down-side...

But my question is - I think - needless... There is no stylus integrated in the 
phone - is it?
Well - okay, I like the stylus which will be delivered with the phone - but for 
traveling a smaller one which is integraded in the phone (and so never 
forgotten!) would be perfekt Hmm

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