Re: Please split this list!

2008-09-01 Thread Matt Joyce
One alternative might be to have separate posting addresses which all go to the same list, but result in a short subject prefix being prepended. This would allow group synergies to emerge, while also enable effective client-side filtering. Problems with this approach include : *members who filter

Re: Nokia wired headsets compatibility

2008-08-25 Thread Matt Joyce
I tried 4 shops today, looking for an adapter, no luck at all. Mostly blank, unknowing stares. I found/ordered one from ebay, so fingers crossed. While this does not direcly address your problem, the ebay description mentioned a dozen or more devices which the adapter was compatiblw with. Thet

Re: GPS logger / field data collection

2008-08-18 Thread Matt Joyce
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Neil Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday August 18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was kind of surprised that gpsd didn't give me a simple way to just get the current location, I had to capture 5 sentences to do that simple thing, but what I really wanted

Re: FSO ringtone

2008-08-07 Thread Matt Joyce
I don't mean to be overly critical, the process you've described is trivial enough, and thank you for sharing, but why is is designed like this? Surely if the exact same steps are performed before building the software, it will be much easier for many more people. It just seem insane to be

Re: Some commentary on the new Openmoko direction, and a review of FSO

2008-08-07 Thread Matt Joyce
Between Kevin Dean's commentary and Wolfgang's response, there's more information than can be found in a day of trawling threads and rummaging in the wiki. Bravo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: FSO: settings and profiles

2008-08-07 Thread Matt Joyce
On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Fredrik Wendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And there is a profile switcher planned I hope? I just can't let go of the idea of having several profiles activated at the same time, so I'll spam you all once more (last time, I promise). Locations: - work - home -

FSO oeventsd and rules

2008-08-07 Thread Matt Joyce
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Guillaume Chereau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just for your information, with the new events system, it will soon be different. You will have to edit the rule.yaml file. It looks like this now : - # This rule will play a ring tone when a call is incoming

Re: GSM detection/identification

2008-08-03 Thread Matt Joyce
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Esben Stien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Buede [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What I need now is a way to pass commands from the cli and have it return values to the cli rather than operating in the shell. What you want is a non interactive interface to the gsm

Re: GSM detection/identification

2008-07-30 Thread Matt Joyce
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Paul Buede [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody else know what I can query or run to view available cell carriers at any given time? Is this even possible? Correct me if I am wrong, I am kind of making this up to try and figure out how it works: I had a play

Re: Rules based policy engine

2008-07-22 Thread Matt Joyce
It would be good to make sure that it's easy to have prolog or some other rule based system autogenerate and interface to the small domain specific language. I think the way it would work is prolog would use some event handlers to maintain a table of facts that the DSL would then use as its

Re: Ruleby was: Rules based policy engine

2008-07-22 Thread matt joyce
Tilman Baumann wrote: Scott wrote: I just found this inference engine. http://ruleby.org/wiki/Ruleby I working on a Rails project think Ruby is a great language to work with. And Ruby is pretty small.. A bit too many layers there for my taste. :) A domain specific rules

Re: Rules based policy engine

2008-07-22 Thread Matt Joyce
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 6:41 AM, Frederik Sdun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm one of the GSoC students and work on the answering machine. I already use this concept in my project and it uses modules so it might be possible to extend it to fit your needs. It's implemented in vala so you can

Re: wiki database error

2008-07-21 Thread matt joyce
I also got an error, trying to save a minor change. Database error From Openmoko Jump to: navigation http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Supportaction=submit#column-one, search http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Supportaction=submit#searchInput A database query syntax error has

Re: Rules based policy engine

2008-07-21 Thread Matt Joyce
I'd like to see a diagram showing how you envisage this fitting together. Somethings like : App1=D=[event handler, current states]=[rules engine]=[rules]=[rules gui] App2=B App3=U App4=S I'm not clear on the existing role or use of DBUS, are existing apps (gsmd, gps, mplayer, contacts, clock,

Re: Rules based policy engine

2008-07-20 Thread matt joyce
Scott Derrick wrote: If GPS position is going to be a phone answering rule you would have to have the GPS sub system running all the time. It can't wake from sleep and acquire a position soon enough go be part of the decision. Not sure what that will do to battery life. Scot That's a

Re: Rules based policy engine

2008-07-20 Thread matt joyce
be close enough. Scott matt joyce wrote: Scott Derrick wrote: If GPS position is going to be a phone answering rule you would have to have the GPS sub system running all the time. It can't wake from sleep and acquire a position soon enough go be part of the decision. Not sure what

Re: Rules based policy engine

2008-07-20 Thread matt joyce
arne anka wrote: It may be possible to use GSM call towers to give a good enough location for these rules. a gsm cell is usually much bigger than most restaurants -- and gps might not be available inhouse. btw: a rule that analyses calendar entries and depending of the character

Re: Rules based policy engine

2008-07-20 Thread Matt Joyce
from the GPS is too long. Scott matt joyce wrote: Or, perhaps use GSM triangulation to trigger GSP fix acquisition. Scott Derrick wrote: I thought about it awhile and decided that you could have the GPS engine get a fix every 5 minutes or some user adjustable time frame and use the last

Re: Rules based policy engine

2008-07-20 Thread Matt Joyce
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Ryan Meador [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: matt joyce [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ryan, what approach have your efforts taken already? Any interesting insights to the problem? Matt My efforts as far as applying my inference engine to the OpenMoko platform

Re: In the press. The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of mostlyoutdated and incomplete documentation.

2008-07-19 Thread matt joyce
Yes. http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-July/022628.html Josh Monson wrote: Has the list been created? The wiki-editors mailing list? Michael/Brenda, Is there any type of organizational plan at this point in terms of whom will be doing what, and will Brenda be coordinating

Re: Dot'n reply above quote

2008-07-19 Thread matt joyce
arne anka wrote: imho the number of people adverse to top postings equals more or less the number of people being annoyed by down-postings. just recently i got mail over 4 pages (with a screen 19200x1200 and 11px font!) with just one (and above all rather meaninmgless) sentence below.

Re: Reply above Quotation

2008-07-19 Thread matt joyce
Mike wrote: Scott Derrick wrote: If your going to quote the email your replying to, please reply above the quotation. Its hard enough wading through 300 emails a day without having to page down to see the reply. Scott Are you with openmoko?? Do you have any authority? You

Re: Reply above Quotation

2008-07-19 Thread matt joyce
OK so let's take this to the extreme- if I were to post something like From now on, the official rule is, no one can use the word 'code' on this mailing list. You would be wrong to ask me if I had any authority, right? No, I would just ignore it.

Re: Interesting portable keyboard

2008-07-19 Thread matt joyce
J├Ârgen Lidholm wrote: On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Ron K. Jeffries [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just saw this reference to a small keyboard that may work with Freerunner. http://theburtonreport.blogspot.com/2008/06/ultra-slim-mobile-keyboard.html Comments? Quite nice keyboard,

Re: Rules based policy engine

2008-07-19 Thread matt joyce
Ryan Meador wrote: Steven Kurylo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The problem with this is that one needs to think like a programmer to describe your ideal phone as a set of rules like these. Not only does one have to think analytically and dissect their concept into orthogonal,

Re: Rules based policy engine

2008-07-18 Thread matt joyce
Guillaume Chereau wrote: This is one of the thing I am planning to add in the framework (FSO project), although for the moment we don't focus on it too much. I agree with Alexey as well, the danger is to create something so configurable, that at the end your setting become a python script.

Re: Rules based policy engine

2008-07-18 Thread matt joyce
However, I would've thought that if every application can generate and consume 'events', then all that is needed in your policy app is the ability to look for combinations of events (and/or states?) and generate new events that other apps can pick up? Is that what you were thinking.

Re: In the press. The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation.

2008-07-17 Thread matt joyce
AVee wrote: On Thursday 17 July 2008 23:35, Dotan Cohen wrote: 2008/7/17 Brenda Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I am wiki full time editor of Openmoko. Thank you for your opinion . I will put more effort , to make wiki more easy to use. And now , If you want to know what we have on

Rules based policy engine

2008-07-17 Thread matt joyce
I have always wanted many more features on my phone, than any phone I've owned has provided. I expect the majority of people who are excited about Openmoko have similar day dreams. I'd like to propose a rule based policy engine. In essence this would be an event based system, a service that

Re: Rules based policy engine

2008-07-17 Thread Matt Joyce
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 01:01:08 +0200, matt joyce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it can be reliably established that my physical location is one of my favourite restaurants please switch my phone to vibrate, unless

Re: Rules based policy engine

2008-07-17 Thread Matt Joyce
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Steven Kurylo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem with this is that one needs to think like a programmer to describe your ideal phone as a set of rules like these. Not only does one have to think analytically and dissect their concept into orthogonal,

Re: Wiki search

2008-07-17 Thread matt joyce
Perhaps it's the databse config, not the wiki. http://kb.ucla.edu/articles/configuring-mediawiki-to-search-for-three-letter-words BrendaWang wrote: Can you give me the more information about modify the configuration ? That will be great help. Thenks Brenda Sven Klomp ??: Dear

Re: Can OM's wiki be used offline?

2008-07-16 Thread matt joyce
That look so neat. john wrote: A project I was on had a similar requirement of being able to search and read documents offline on the iPhone *snarl*. Anyway, what I did was port an excellent open source search engine called hyper estraier [1] over to the iPhone and used that on various kinds

Re: In the press

2008-07-15 Thread Matt Joyce
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jay Vaughan wrote: This stood out for me The tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation at the OpenMoko wiki... Is this an accurate evaluation of the wiki ? If so, what can we do to fix it up, how

Re: Reason for GPS problems found!

2008-07-15 Thread Matt Joyce
Firstly I don't have much of an issue with the way things have been handled so far. In fact the closeness of the users, the community, the developers, the engineers and management, just strengthen my resolve that Open Source phones are the way to go. (I'm finding the resolution process

Re: Wiki editors

2008-07-15 Thread Matt Joyce
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 8:54 AM, ian douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Shiloh wrote: I will help support you in any way I can. Yes, we can absolutely set up a mailing list for you to coordinate amongst yourselves. I will also make myself more immediately available to the wiki

Re: Can OM's wiki be used offline?

2008-07-14 Thread Matt Joyce
mokopedia brings the whole wikipedia to your openmoko phone even while being offline because all articles will reside on an attached microSD card. http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/mokopedia/ On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:00 AM, Kurt Snieckus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GNU wget can recurse and

Re: SanDisk micro SDHC 8GB card under testing

2008-07-12 Thread matt joyce
It will depend of the amount and type of activity and size of files. I like the look of nilfs or logfs,but I'm not sure they are available or even mature enough. Flyin_bbb8 wrote: So what's the best filesystem to use on our microSDs? On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 12:51 AM, Mikko Rauhala [EMAIL

Re: SanDisk micro SDHC 8GB card under testing

2008-07-11 Thread matt joyce
I found a Sandisk Micro SD 8gb on the pavement today. It was full of *.nds files, Nintendo DS roms I think. Will it work in the FR? ian douglas wrote: Hey all, Got my 8GB SanDisk 8GB micro SDHC card [1] in a few minutes ago, popped it into my GTA02v5 (beta tester model) Freerunner and

Re: In the press

2008-07-11 Thread matt joyce
Jay Vaughan wrote: This stood out for me The tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation at the OpenMoko wiki... Is this an accurate evaluation of the wiki ? If so, what can we do to fix it up, how do we identify old content and schedule it for updating? I

Re: SanDisk micro SDHC 8GB card under testing

2008-07-11 Thread matt joyce
Federico Lorenzi wrote: On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 3:56 PM, ian douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So interestingly enough, writes were slower on ext3 than vfat on the 512MB card. Makes sense, ext3 is journaled, and using a journaling FS on flash memory is generally a bad idea. Could

In the press

2008-07-10 Thread Matt Joyce
I found this yesterday, thought it was quite an ok article. http://arstechnica.com/reviews/os/open-moko-software.ars This stood out for me *The tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation at the OpenMoko wiki*... Is this an accurate evaluation of the wiki ? If so, what can we do

Re: VMWare Freerunner Flash

2008-07-08 Thread matt joyce
Johan Badenhorst wrote: Hi guys, I was just wondering if anyone has flashed their Freerunners using VMWare Player on Windows and if that would even be possible? Alternatively would it be possible to use colinux or a similar tool? I've been developing for Maemo using VMWare

Re: questions about our mailinglists

2008-07-08 Thread matt joyce
Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: Hi, On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 5:08 AM, Matt Joyce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Community Would there be any support for prefixing the subject with the list names ? eg [openmoko-community] It's a trivial enough to implement with Mailman (the system being

Re: GPS

2008-07-08 Thread matt joyce
Not really my idea of quite accurate! It's just initialisation data. More accurate will probably be better, but 20km of doesn't sound that bad. It sure is *way* better than not even knowing which hemisphere you're in. Actually it think just knowing which country your in will

Re: questions about our mailinglists

2008-07-08 Thread matt joyce
Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: Hello, On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:44 PM, matt joyce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you elaborate please (not for the sake of debate, I'm just curious No, I'm not going to restart that discussion. The last time it lasted for more than a month, wasting lots

Re: questions about our mailinglists

2008-07-08 Thread matt joyce
arne anka wrote: No, I'm not going to restart that discussion. so you were speaking about the discussions that may arise from the request not some drawbacks of the markers as such? ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: questions about our mailinglists

2008-07-07 Thread Matt Joyce
Dear Community We want to simplify around key communication points. What do you think of the following: 1) Combine 'openmoko-devel' and 'distro-devel' into one list -- called 'devel'. 2) Remove 'device-owners'. 3) Remove 'hardware'. Any concerns / comments? -Sean I