Gmail forwarders

2009-01-28 Thread Matthew Lane
To those of you who have forwarded your purdue email to your gmail,

Don't sending e-mails through your gmail account to the list; they 
aren't getting through.  Change your settings and send outgoing mail to 
the list from your purdue e-mail.

Also, 317-498-6103, sending e-mails from your phone isn't getting 
through either as it comes from the address 3174986...@vtext.com.

Lane...

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oops!

2009-01-28 Thread Matthew Lane
oops, sorry wrong mailing list! :(

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[SHR] SMS

2009-01-27 Thread Matthew Lane
I have a question about SHR SMS.  I loved SHR, but I found that call 
volume was very low, and I had trouble finding my SMS messages.  When 
receiving an incoming SMS, I could not delete the notify window with the 
X on the upper illume taskbar, and all of my SMS messages said they were 
received on Jan 1, 1987.  I'm assuming this is because I didn't 
correctly set my system clock, but how would I do that?  And how would I 
raise call volume, and delete the incoming message window?

Thanks!

Matt

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[SHR] SIM Card import/export scripts

2009-01-24 Thread Matthew Lane
Has anyone had trouble with importing contacts to a SIM card?  I've 
gotten all the delete to work, but not importing.  The output of my 
VcfToPhonebook (a pbk file) is empty.

Matt

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Re: Re: SHR Unstable

2009-01-23 Thread Matthew Lane
How is suspend on SHR?  Is it working well?  If telephony, SMS, etc. are 
working great, then I might consider switching to SHR as a daily phone!

Paul wrote:
 div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedWow. The 
 phone works nicely. I did not hear a buzz, echo or other annoying sounds.
 Also SMS/text messaging incoming and outgoing works!

 Have not taken the time to try GPS yet, as that is not important for 
 me, but I may, soon. ;-)

 Paul


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Re: Re: SHR Unstable

2009-01-23 Thread Matthew Lane
Suspend does not work while only on battery yet?  How long is the 
battery life?  Only a few hours I imagine.


jon wrote:
i haven't any obvious problems with shr, its working great. There are however 
some things still needed to be done in the way of power management...
i.e. allow suspend when powered only by battery is yet to be implemented, 
although the framework for doing such a thing seems to be in place.



On Friday 23 January 2009 17:06:09 Matthew Lane wrote:
  

How is suspend on SHR?  Is it working well?  If telephony, SMS, etc. are
working great, then I might consider switching to SHR as a daily phone!

Paul wrote:


div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedWow. The
phone works nicely. I did not hear a buzz, echo or other annoying sounds.
Also SMS/text messaging incoming and outgoing works!

Have not taken the time to try GPS yet, as that is not important for
me, but I may, soon. ;-)

Paul
  

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Re: Re: SHR Unstable

2009-01-23 Thread Matthew Lane
Luckily, I do.  Can you manually suspend by tapping the power button, 
like 2008.12?  And once the SMS is read, will it then automatically 
suspend?  Thanks.

Richy wrote:
 The phone does suspend. Battery-life is at least a day. (without wifi).

 However, it doesn't suspend again after receiving an sms. Which is a
 battery-killer if you don't check your phone every 20min.


   

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[Tango-GPS] Map bulk download?

2009-01-22 Thread Matthew Lane
I was wondering if anyone has a tar'd compilation of all the USA maps?  
I'd like to bulk download to my SD card all of the maps for at least my 
area, if not my state and the entire country.  I'm aware tango-gps can 
bulk download up to +6 zoom levels, but this isn't enough for me!  Thanks.

Matthew Lane

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Deleting SIM Card Contacts on 2008.x

2009-01-16 Thread Matthew Lane
Does anyone know a method to delete sim card contacts on 2008.x?  I'm 
currently using FDOM, and some bug imported all my contacts onto my sim 
card with the name /hp and I was wondering if anyone knew a method.  
Thanks.

Matthew

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Mass delete sim card contacts

2009-01-05 Thread Matthew Lane
I've encountered a bug where on importing my vcard contacts they were 
also added to my sim card, all with the name /fp.  I'd like to mass 
remove all of my sim card contacts but can't find anything on the wiki 
about it.

How can I remove all my sim card contacts?  I'm using qtopia, but a 
command line solution would be fine.

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[Qtopia] Major problems with qt-extended?

2008-12-29 Thread Matthew Lane
I'm having a lot of major problems with 4.4.2, and particularly with the 
earlier versions as well.  With earlier versions, the alarm stopped 
working correctly, and sometimes when I received a text message it would 
not wake my phone up, or would not go through until after I restarted my 
phone.

I've looked around on bug trackers and am having trouble finding these 
exact issues, so I was wondering if I'm the only one:

With 4.4.2:

1. After sending a text message and the last input screen shows numbers 
(to confirm the number sending) the next message input screen starts 
with numbers instead of letters.

2. No sound on receiving a call or sms.

3. Call volume is turned all the way up, but extremely quiet (even 
compared to previous qt versions).

4. Menus scroll way past the top or bottom of where they should.

Sorry if I missed a tracker, thanks for the help!

Matthew Lane

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Re: Re: Any hope for bug #666?

2008-11-04 Thread Matthew Lane
Just to give you some more confidence, I'm using an ATT 3G fireball sim 
card, much like one of the posters said does not work, and it certainly 
works just fine for me.


Michael Zanetti wrote:

Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 22:51:23 schrieb JC Denton:
  

Hi,
is there any new info / progress on bug #666 (
http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/666 ) that is not yet on the
trac/wiki?

That bug is now 15 months (!) old and has yet to receive any serious
attention - I'm hesitating to buy a Freerunner solely because it most
likely wont work with my O2 sim.

Can any openmoko engineer shed some light on this - has there been anything
from TI?




My Freerunner worked fine with my O2 Germany 3G card from October 2006 and 
works fine with my new O2 Germany 3G card from July 2008. If you are unlucky 
enough to have one of those non-working sim cards you have a good change to 
get a working one (3G) by changing it in your local O2 store.



  
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Re: Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread Matthew Lane
I've flashed the android rootfs and uImage and I'm unable to get a 
boot.  I'm using the daily build u-boot and I've tried with 8GB uSD 
ultra ii and regular.  Both result in a blank screen after the white flash.


KaZeR wrote:

David Samblas a écrit :

El mar, 04-11-2008 a las 15:48 +0100, Cédric Berger escribió:
  

On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 15:43, Eildert Groeneveld
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Tuesday 04 November 2008, Denis Galvão wrote:
  

Could you send us your u-boot version?


its todays download from the daily build:

 gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin   04-Nov-2008 01:46  211K

  

Mine (working ok) was 23 sept.

(And I am updating to latest now)

Note that I just tried booting from NOR u-boot and it goes to black screen.



Still no luck here :(
from http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/
dfu-util   04-Nov-2008 01:46
gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin  04-Nov-2008 01:46

from http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/
androidfs.jffs2 04-Nov-2008 12:05 
uImage-android  04-Nov-2008 12:13


tested with all uSD and sim combination possible

please try to upload this working u-boot image anywhere let me know if you need 
a place.

  



Works (boot) here :
uboot 1.3.2-moko12 may 9 2008 10:28:48

Flashed like any other distro,
With a 4Gb usd card :
 /dev/sdb1   1 2457832b  W95 FAT32
 /dev/sdb2 246  124880 3988320   83  Linux

I booted with SD (worked) then without SD (failed) then with SD and a 
new SIM (works).
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[Debian] sound programs.. no sound from VLC

2008-10-30 Thread Matthew Lane
Dear community,

I'm running Debian under xfce, and I love it.  I've installed some new 
software and I love the great options of standard Debian software, but 
I'm running into troubles when it comes to playing an MP3.

I've installed Audacious, Noatun, Sonata, and VLC.  Audacious is the 
only player I've been able to hear sound from, but it skips, and very 
frequently!  Noatun will not play my music, and Sonata won't add my 
music to its library even though I redirect MPD's library path.  VLC, 
however, appears to be playing the music, but I have no sound.

Does anyone on the Debian crew know something about this, or anyone have 
some kind of additional test or solution that will be helpful?  Thanks!

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Re: Re: Call for mirrors for FDOM

2008-10-26 Thread Matthew Lane
Alastair Johnson wrote:
 div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedDavid 
 Samblas wrote:
 Well some of you have send me a mail about my site is little bit
 slow ... taking in count I have served about 20Gb in less than 2 days is
 with peaks of 1 Gb/hour , slow is at least a good performance :)

 I will try to make a script to balance beetween me an the mirrors but
 actually there is only one updated
 http://files.tdobson.net/openmoko/freerunner/fdom/  thanks Tim :)

 Thanks to you all for your support :)

 I should have our mirror updated by tomorrow morning UK time.


 /div
I'll place a mirror or two up sometime this week.

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Re: Re: Re: [Debian] installer script

2008-10-22 Thread Matthew Lane
I did partition the card myself after I ran the installer and it failed, 
then I tried to do everything step by step (skipping the partition 
step).  This proceeded to the part where it actually downloads debian 
packages and attempts to install them, and about 15 minutes through that 
it failed.  I'll run the script again and post a log later today.  
Thanks for the help.

Andrew Bennett wrote:
 Try removing both partitions from your SD card (fdisk then 'd' both 
 partitions) and then running the installer again.  When I ran the 
 installer script for the first time (this was a while ago: a day or 
 two after the installer script was published), with an SD card that 
 was already partitioned with Debian (pre-install script version) on 
 it, the partition step failed.  I manually set up the partitions and 
 ran the rest of the install steps individually.  For later install 
 attempts, I always deleted all the partitions from the SD card before 
 running the installer.

 You could also try looking closer at the output of the script, to see 
 what errors occurred.  (I ran the installer from an ssh session, so I 
 could use my terminal window's scrollback buffer, copy and paste, etc.)

 Also, you could try partitioning the card yourself (find the 
 instructions in the wiki) and then continue on from there.


 ---
 Andrew Bennett
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:08 PM, Matthew Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 No, I have not tried the 512mb card (it's at home and I'm at college).
 I'm not sure how to do what you're talking about arne, but you're
 suggesting that I can install a base system and put Debian on
 that?  Can
 you point me in the correct direction?

 Also, my 8gb uSDHC card works:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0

 Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 8168 MB, 8168931328 bytes
 4 heads, 16 sectors/track, 249296 cylinders
 Units = cylinders of 64 * 512 = 32768 bytes

Device Boot  Start End  Blocks  Id System
 /dev/mmcblk0p1   1 2457832   4 FAT16 32M
 /dev/mmcblk0p2 246  249296 7969632  83 Linux

 Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson wrote:
  div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedMatthew
  Lane wrote:
  Hey all,
 
  I'm trying to install Debian on the freerunner using the install.sh
  script.
 
  I keep getting stuck at Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table.
  and then my script exits.  I've tried individually installing, but
  after the install step the script fails to install.
 
  I've added a u-boot environment boot option to lower the clock to
  10,000,000 as instructed on the bug report here:
  https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1743
 
  After booting with this option, without going into suspend, and
 after
  killing qpe:
 
  DASH_BINSH=false SD_PART1_FS=vfat ./install.sh all
 
  The script terminates after the partition stage.  I'm using a
 SanDisk
  8GB uSDHC card.
 
  I'm using the latest GTA02v5_and_up NAND u-boot.
 
  I think I remember seeing some more instructions, but I can't
 seem to
  find them anywhere.  Anyone have an idea of how to proceed from
 here?
 
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Re: Re: [Debian] installer script

2008-10-22 Thread Matthew Lane
arne anka wrote:
 div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixed No, I 
 have not tried the 512mb card (it's at home and I'm at college).
 I'm not sure how to do what you're talking about arne, but you're
 suggesting that I can install a base system and put Debian on that?  
 Can
 you point me in the correct direction?


 He was saying if you had your 512 to install debian on the 512 and the
 copy the data from that to your 8gb card


 exactly.
 the included 512mb card works -- if the installer still chokes there's 
 something else wrong.
 after several failures with a 4g card i installed to the 512mb with 
 the installer (it might be a good idea to take one step at time -- i 
 nearly run out of space and had to clean /var/cache/apt/archives/ 
 between two steps).
 then i mounted the 512mb in my pc, checked the partition values (size, 
 type), copied the content of the first one (kernel and a text file 
 whose purpose i do not yet grasp) and created from the second one a 
 tar-ball (some weeks ago there was a discussion how to migrate data 
 that way, the archive should show the different approaches -- tar, cp, 
 rsync -- and their parameters).
 next step was to partition the bigger card: 8mb fat for the kernel, 
 the rest ext2 for the system itself.
 copied the kernel+text file to the 8mb fat.
 unpacked the tar ball into the second.

 insert the card, start via aux+pwr and chose the second option 
 (fat+ext2) ... and off you go.

 i tried it first w/ a 4g card but w/o luck (did not boot) and then w/ 
 1g which works.
 as far as i understand there's a sandisk 8g sdhc ultra II that works 
 out of the box, ie no extra boot params, and survives suspend/resume. 
 i am about to order one and see, if it is true.


 /div
Awesome, what's the model # on that sandisk 8G?

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Re: Re: [Debian] installer script

2008-10-21 Thread Matthew Lane
No, I have not tried the 512mb card (it's at home and I'm at college).  
I'm not sure how to do what you're talking about arne, but you're 
suggesting that I can install a base system and put Debian on that?  Can 
you point me in the correct direction?

Also, my 8gb uSDHC card works:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0

Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 8168 MB, 8168931328 bytes
4 heads, 16 sectors/track, 249296 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 64 * 512 = 32768 bytes

Device Boot  Start End  Blocks  Id System
/dev/mmcblk0p1   1 2457832   4 FAT16 32M
/dev/mmcblk0p2 246  249296 7969632  83 Linux

Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson wrote:
 div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedMatthew 
 Lane wrote:
 Hey all,

 I'm trying to install Debian on the freerunner using the install.sh 
 script.

 I keep getting stuck at Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table. 
 and then my script exits.  I've tried individually installing, but 
 after the install step the script fails to install.

 I've added a u-boot environment boot option to lower the clock to 
 10,000,000 as instructed on the bug report here: 
 https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1743

 After booting with this option, without going into suspend, and after 
 killing qpe:

 DASH_BINSH=false SD_PART1_FS=vfat ./install.sh all

 The script terminates after the partition stage.  I'm using a SanDisk 
 8GB uSDHC card.

 I'm using the latest GTA02v5_and_up NAND u-boot.

 I think I remember seeing some more instructions, but I can't seem to 
 find them anywhere.  Anyone have an idea of how to proceed from here?

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 Have you tried on the 512MB that the majority of FreeRunner's ship with?


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Re: Re: community Digest, Vol 102, Issue 16

2008-10-21 Thread Matthew Lane
Sarton O'Brien wrote:
 On Wednesday 22 October 2008 07:07:14 Matthew Lane wrote:
   
 No, I have not tried the 512mb card (it's at home and I'm at college).  
 I'm not sure how to do what you're talking about arne, but you're
 suggesting that I can install a base system and put Debian on that?  Can
 you point me in the correct direction?

 Also, my 8gb uSDHC card works
 

 That's debatable :) ... I have tried various cards and have installed debian 
 successfully and unsuccessfully based on the card I use.

 I now only use 2GB cards and below as they don't seem to suffer from the 
 issues  4GB seems to present.

 IMO try a smaller card before you consider alternative install methods, 
 otherwise you might end up like me, with debian installed but randomness 
 occurring. Also don't believe everything the FR reports, use a bit of trial 
 and error, especially with uSD cards.

 Sarton


   
Sounds good, thanks.  Do you have a suggestion on a 2GB card?  I found a 
cheap (~$4) Kingston card on NewEgg, do you think that'll be fine? 
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134665)

Thanks!

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[Debian] Alternate install (image)?

2008-10-20 Thread Matthew Lane
Hey,

I've been posting about the installer script error I am getting and how 
I can't get the installer to work for Debian.  Does anyone have an image 
I could flash?  That would be great as I really want to try Debian on my 
phone.

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[FDOM] charging problem?

2008-10-20 Thread Matthew Lane
I'm running FDOM and I'm trying to charge off the wall charger, but my 
AUX light doesn't light up, and my battery meter doesn't change to the 
bolt; essentially my phone won't charge.  It will, however, charge from 
the computer.  Is this a known issue?

Also, I have posted three times about the Debian installer script and 
have gotten no replies, does ANYONE know anything about this script 
before I try to personally e-mail the guys that wrote it?

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[Debian] installer script

2008-10-19 Thread Matthew Lane


---BeginMessage---

Hey all,

I'm trying to install Debian on the freerunner using the install.sh script.

I keep getting stuck at Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table. and 
then my script exits.  I've tried individually installing, but after the 
install step the script fails to install.


I've added a u-boot environment boot option to lower the clock to 
10,000,000 as instructed on the bug report here: 
https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1743


After booting with this option, without going into suspend, and after 
killing qpe:


DASH_BINSH=false SD_PART1_FS=vfat ./install.sh all

The script terminates after the partition stage.  I'm using a SanDisk 
8GB uSDHC card.


I'm using the latest GTA02v5_and_up NAND u-boot.

I think I remember seeing some more instructions, but I can't seem to 
find them anywhere.  Anyone have an idea of how to proceed from here?


---End Message---
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[Debian] installer script

2008-10-18 Thread Matthew Lane
Hey all,

I'm trying to install Debian on the freerunner using the install.sh script.

I keep getting stuck at Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table. and 
then my script exits.  I've tried individually installing, but after the 
install step the script fails to install.

I've added a u-boot environment boot option to lower the clock to 
10,000,000 as instructed on the bug report here: 
https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1743

After booting with this option, without going into suspend, and after 
killing qpe:

DASH_BINSH=false SD_PART1_FS=vfat ./install.sh all

The script terminates after the partition stage.  I'm using a SanDisk 
8GB uSDHC card.

I'm using the latest GTA02v5_and_up NAND u-boot.

I think I remember seeing some more instructions, but I can't seem to 
find them anywhere.  Anyone have an idea of how to proceed from here?

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Re: Re: [Qt-Extended] Messenger bugs?

2008-10-16 Thread Matthew Lane
Nishit Dave wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Matthew Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey,

 I'm using the new qt-extended (4.4 I think).  I'm getting strange
 problems, especially with the messenger.  It always says my SMS is
 full,
 and when receiving a new text it displays it between 5-15ish times.
 Also, scrolling doesn't stop at the top of units, it continues into
 blank area, and then when I let my finger up, it jumps to the top-most
 unit (if I scrolled too far).  Is anyone else receiving these errors?


 Common problem, oft reported.  There are no updates yet, so we will 
 have to see if its solved when they are released.
  

 Also, I can't seem to get a WEP access point on WIFI.


 More information needed about nature of problem and circumstances.  I 
 can connect to my WPA network easily.  You can try putting ethernet 
 offline when you attempt the wifi connection and see.  It resolves 
 some default route issues that might otherwise crop up.
There doesn't seem to be an option to select WEP encryption.

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[Qt-Extended] Messenger bugs?

2008-10-14 Thread Matthew Lane
Hey,

I'm using the new qt-extended (4.4 I think).  I'm getting strange 
problems, especially with the messenger.  It always says my SMS is full, 
and when receiving a new text it displays it between 5-15ish times.  
Also, scrolling doesn't stop at the top of units, it continues into 
blank area, and then when I let my finger up, it jumps to the top-most 
unit (if I scrolled too far).  Is anyone else receiving these errors?  
Also, I can't seem to get a WEP access point on WIFI.

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HELP! Phone NAND u-boot borked and phone won't charge.

2008-10-06 Thread Matthew Lane
I've sent out a few e-mails about how the debian u-boot configure script 
borked my NAND u-boot, and whenever I boot into NOR flash and reflash my 
NAND u-boot, I only get the Boot option.  The phone will not boot up 
through computer USB or the AC charger.  In the past when my battery was 
dead, NAND would boot when plugged into the AC charger, but this won't 
work since my NAND is borked.

Does anyone know why my NAND is borked, and how I can fix it?  
Reflashing it from NOR isn't working, as the latest gta02v5 and up 
u-boot only gives the boot option and gives me a mtdparts error.

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Re: Re: HELP! Phone NAND u-boot borked and phone won't charge.

2008-10-06 Thread Matthew Lane
Thanks a bunch.  I've already played around with the environment using 
cu in NAND u-boot.  I'll hop on IRC and see what I can do.  Thanks again.


Konstantin wrote:

Matthew Lane wrote:
  
Does anyone know why my NAND is borked, and how I can fix it?  
Reflashing it from NOR isn't working, as the latest gta02v5 and up 
u-boot only gives the boot option and gives me a mtdparts error.



If I understood you correctly, you are experiencing the same problem as I was a
few weeks ago. I think the problem is that the NAND configuration (that is, the
configuration for the menu items in the NAND menu) is stored on a seperate
partition from the uboot, so reflashing won't change it (actually, this is
probably a good thing, because that way you don't have to rebuild your custom
boot menu everytime you update your uboot).
I fixed that by asking someone in the irc-channel to kindly send me a backup of
his u-boot_env partition and flashing it on my freerunner. And then, you could
also just boot into nand and reconstruct the boot menu manually (see
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/U-boot#Bootloader_prompt for details)

HTH,
Konstantin


  
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[u-boot] Unable to boot issue (debian?)

2008-10-05 Thread Matthew Lane
I have placed the latest gta02v5 and up u-boot into my NAND boot 
section, and when I try to boot I only get a Boot option and it fails 
to boot (something about mtdparts variable not set).  My NOR can boot 
into my newly flashed FDOM image, but whenever I flash the gta02v5 and 
up u-boot I get the same results.  I've even zero filled my NAND u-boot 
section and tried to reflash a new u-boot.  This issue first occured 
when I was trying to configure my NAND u-boot to boot debian from an SD 
card.  Can anyone help?

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[u-boot] Wrong image format for bootm command

2008-10-03 Thread Matthew Lane
Hey,

I'm having trouble booting my neo.  I can get into NOR flash, and NAND 
flash, but the NAND flash only supplies one option: the Boot command.  
This command prints a message saying Wrong image format for the bootm 
command.

I have grabbed the latest u-boot from:
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin
I have flashed this into my NAND using dfu-util from my NOR with no errors.

My flash image is currently the FDOM image.  I was attempting to install 
debian on my uSD.  I updated to the latest uboot, configured it using a 
script provided at debian.org, and then booted into my flash image and 
proceeded to install debian.  The process halted after partitioning, 
which then advised to use 'cu' to add some environmental variables to 
booting.  After this, I rebooted and began receiving these errors.

I currently cannot boot into anything.  I can log into NOR (which seems 
fine) but I am unable to flash a working NAND (Just that boot option).

Thanks!


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[FDOM] Kernel panic?

2008-10-02 Thread Matthew Lane
I'm getting a kernel panic when I flash the lastest FDOM (20080927).  
I'm using the latest 2008.9 kernel, could this be the issue?  FDOM 
doesn't seem to supply a kernel to use, but I'd think that the 2008.09 
kernel would be fine.

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Re: Re: Dialer UI Design

2008-09-30 Thread Matthew Lane
Alex has an excellent point.  Both complexity time of algorithms and the 
lack of asynchronous work / threading are enumerations of poor 
programming practices, and not characteristics of a byte code 
interpreter or the like.  Some UI lockups could easily be fixed by 
simply using threads, or even coding without a polling while loop, but 
sometimes programmers don't generally think of using these techniques, 
or are more focused on functionality than speed.  Either way, Alex is 
right in that any interpreter's reduction in speed will be minimal at 
best.  It's *MUCH* more about how you code it, not what you code it in.

Matthew Lane
Purdue University - Department of Computer Science

Alex Osborne wrote:
 div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedOn 
 30/09/2008, at 9:41 PM, Nishit Dave wrote:

 How about experience? I don't know about programming or system 
 specifics, but as a user,

 Please don't take this the wrong way.  There's a common misconception 
 amongst non-programmers and even some less experienced programmers 
 than anything except compiled code is going to feel slow.  This is 
 what Mickey means by prejudice, you're judging that a poor user 
 experience is Python's fault without really understanding how things 
 work.  I'll try to explain below.

 You can test that on the FR - just try Mofi, switch to say the home 
 screen, and switch back.  You will be able to see how long it takes 
 before text appears.

 You mean start Mofi, then switch to a different app and back to the 
 still running Mofi? The window renders virtually instantly for me, 
 there's a little flash of it redrawing but you really have to watch 
 for it and it's not noticeably worse than any other app.  I'm 
 switching between xterm and Mofi on Debian on the FreeRunner.  The 
 fact I can't see it could be due to Debian using a different GTK 
 theme, I notice the font (and hence all the widets) are much smaller 
 on Debian than on OM 2007/8, so it might render faster.

 The fact that Python is used for the application logic should have 
 zero effect on the redraw speed.  This is because the code that does 
 the drawing (GTK), is actually written in C.  The Python code tells 
 GTK once when the window is created, hey I want five buttons and a 
 textbox with this text, in this arrangement, you figure out the rest, 
 it's then GTK's responsibility to redraw them and tell python when a 
 button gets clicked or a menu item is selected.  In a normal 
 application that's just using standard widgets and not doing any 
 custom drawing, redraws (like switching between applications) 
 shouldn't execute any Python code at all.

 When you click scan the interfaces freezes, but that's because it's 
 waiting for the hardware to do the wifi scan.  This is poor practice, 
 it should really do the scan asynchronously so the interface doesn't 
 freeze and display a spinner, or at least say Please wait, 
 scanning  At least the freeze is not very long.  But again, that 
 has nothing to do with the programming language used, it's just as 
 easy to make the same mistake with C.

 Just from an efficiency point of view, don't you think a compiled 
 program may run better than an interpreted one on a system with 
 limited hardware capabilities.

 For doing math intensive stuff like drawing, compression, encryption, 
 etc -- sure definitely -- you're trying to do hundreds of millions of 
 operations per second.  For app logic, when this button is pressed, 
 turn on the wifi, configure it with these settings and such there's 
 really no difference between a few thousand CPU cycles of tightly 
 optimized C code and a tens to hundreds of thousands of cycles of 
 Python per button click, they're both imperceptible and are both not a 
 bottleneck.  Can you tell the difference between 1 microsecond and 1 
 millisecond?  I certainly can't.

 I guess one might be able to form an argument that Python has a lower 
 barrier of entry for programmers than C so you would be more likely in 
 general to get programs written by less experienced people, but I 
 personally might actually call that a point in favour of Python. ;-)  
 It also by no means implies that Python programs are *only* written by 
 inexperienced people.

 I hope that makes things a bit clearer.  Analysing software 
 performance is actually a very complex process and more often than not 
 it's not just raw computation speed that wins the day.  Often your 
 intuitions like that compiled code should be better than interpreted 
 byte-code often do not hold, as good code can often be exponentially 
 better than bad code, while compiling might get you at the very most 
 only a 5 to 10 times speed boost.  Also, how caching and memory is 
 used plays a very large role in the performance of programs running on 
 modern hardware.

 But for typical GUI programs processor speed is usually largely 
 irrelevant as long as the underlying toolkit is not completely 
 broken.  If a GUI

2008.9 GPS

2008-09-22 Thread Matthew Lane
I can't get my GPS to get a fix, even outside.  I'm using the latest 
2008.9 distro from the wiki (as of 9/18/08).  My Locations app shows a 
map, attempts to get a fix, and always tells me I can't get a fix in 
sunny weather!

Is anyone else having this issue, or does anyone know of a solution?

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Re: Re: 2008.9 GPS

2008-09-22 Thread Matthew Lane
I have gotten a fix in the past with 2007.2 and no uSD card inserted.  
This was possible with both tangogps and openmoko-gps-ui.


I do have the latest 2008.9 kernel and rootfs.  I have tried both with 
and without a uSD and have been unable to obtain a fix.  I'll try 
getting a fix with the openmoko-gps-ui sometime this week, but Locations 
is unable to do so.


Matthew Lane

Xavier Bestel wrote:

Le lundi 22 septembre 2008 à 13:33 -0400, Matthew Lane a écrit :
  
I can't get my GPS to get a fix, even outside.  I'm using the latest 
2008.9 distro from the wiki (as of 9/18/08).  My Locations app shows a 
map, attempts to get a fix, and always tells me I can't get a fix in 
sunny weather!


Is anyone else having this issue, or does anyone know of a solution?



Never got a fix myself.

Xav




  
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Qtopia issues (dialing/receiving calls simultaneously, suspend problems, alarm, time)

2008-09-09 Thread Matthew Lane
Hello,

I'd like to add that I've also confirmed that suspend bug where 
sometimes the FR just does not want to wake up and I have to pop out the 
battery.  Also, sometimes my FR does not wake up on SMS (it USUALLY 
does) and I have to wake the FR up myself, and then it receives my SMS 
messages.

Also, the FR seems to have problems when calling out and receiving an 
incoming call at the same time.  It creates multiple instances of a 
phone call (which I'm assuming it's wanting to do), but answering or 
talking on either one is impossible.  End call doesn't really work as 
once you've closed the dialer you're sometimes still connected.

Also, my alarm feature has stopped working.  The alarm simply won't go 
off at the designated time.  For example, I set my alarm for 9:30am, and 
the alarm goes off at 9:45pm.  Setting the alarm for 9:15pm 
unfortunately does not make the alarm go off at 9:30am (missed a class :( ).

As for time, when I set the Time  Date to Automatic, the time and 
date is an hour off.

Also, my uSD card still isn't recognizable on qtopia (it is under 
2007.2), but other than that this distro is amazing because the phone is 
actually usable as an every-day phone.  I love the battery life 
(actually 1 full day) and usability.  Thanks for hard work!

Matthew Lane



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Re: Re: Qtopia WIFI WPA

2008-08-22 Thread Matthew Lane
Lorn Potter wrote:
 div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedMatthew 
 Lane wrote:
 Hey all,

 I'm loving the GUI for connecting to a WIFI AP on Qtopia 4.1.4.

 4.1.4? thats ancient :)
 Are you sure this is the correct version?


 However, I'm trying to connect to my university's WPA EAP TKIP 
 network, and there doesn't seem to be a TKIP option (only 
 TLS/TTLS/PEAP).  Also, when I view security certificates, the next 
 screen simple shows Empty Text and I'm not able to select any 
 security certificates.

 Any news on new Qtopia WIFI updates?

 4.3.2 supports tkip and aes.


Okay I found it thanks, I must be blind.

What about server certificates?  I need the Thawte Premium Server CA 
root certificate and I can't seem to find any certificates on Qtopia.

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Partitioning 8GB uSD

2008-08-22 Thread Matthew Lane
Hey all,

I'm trying to dual boot with 2008.8 or debian on my uSD but fdisk tells 
me my card is in use.  I follow the instructions on the wiki page and 
umount /dev/mmcblk0p1 and I get two error messages saying error device 
is in use, but I don't have anything accessing the card. I'm running 
qtopia's latest 20080808 image from their website.

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Re: Re: Partitioning 8GB uSD

2008-08-22 Thread Matthew Lane
arne anka wrote:
 div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixed I'm 
 trying to dual boot with 2008.8 or debian on my uSD but fdisk tells
 ...
 qtopia's latest 20080808 image from their website.

 now, i am confused.
 do you use 2008.8 _or_ qtopia?
 afair w/ 2008.8 there were no problems, but w/ qtopia qpe block the sd 
 card. some days ago a workaround for qtopia w/ qpe was posted.


 /div

I use the 080808 version of Qtopia (4.3.2).  Do you know where I can 
find that workaround?  Ubuntu seems to have trouble reading and writing 
to cards, and I have no internet at home only work :(.

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Re: Re: Qtopia WIFI WPA

2008-08-22 Thread Matthew Lane
Clemens Kirchgatterer wrote:
 Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 Any news on new Qtopia WIFI updates?
   
 4.3.2 supports tkip and aes.
 

 i have currently 4.3.2 installed but don't seem to be able to connect
 to my open accesspoint. i had no trouble with 2007.2 doing so. i
 see getting a dhcp lease but can't manage to connect to the
 qtopia.net package feed. i even can't ping the FR from my desktop. are
 there still known issues?

 best regards ...
 clemens


   
I just tried to connect to an open network at lunch (which I have 
previously connected to on 2007.2) and couldn't get past Unavailable

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Qtopia WIFI WPA

2008-08-21 Thread Matthew Lane
Hey all,

I'm loving the GUI for connecting to a WIFI AP on Qtopia 4.1.4.

However, I'm trying to connect to my university's WPA EAP TKIP network, 
and there doesn't seem to be a TKIP option (only TLS/TTLS/PEAP).  Also, 
when I view security certificates, the next screen simple shows Empty 
Text and I'm not able to select any security certificates.

Any news on new Qtopia WIFI updates?

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Re: Re: Garbled SMS messages with OM2008.8?

2008-08-19 Thread Matthew Lane
Tim Erwin wrote:
 I've been running OM2008.8 on my freerunner for a little over a week now.
 For about a week, SMS's worked fine, but for the last few days the SMSs I
 receive have been garbled - a mixture of characters like ?Èù¥£ì
 

 I only get garbled messages from my service provider. This is when I
 miss a call and I should get a SMS to say that I have voice mail
 message please cal 212 but with the qtopia 080808 image I get a
 similar garbled result.

 Regards,

 Tim


   
I also get garbled text messages sometimes.  Usually a great deal of 
them, that make no sense, and sometimes numbers that I've never heard of 
(eg. 611211) or something along those lines.

Some kind of data corruption?  I'm using Qtopia 20080808.

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Upgrading on Qtopia

2008-08-08 Thread Matthew Lane
Hey all,

I've read that opkg can't upgrade qtopia, but it should be able to 
upgrade my kernel, correct?

Well, when I do opkg update, opkg upgrade my phone will spend about 
20-30 minutes updating everything (from the latest qtopia image on 
trolltech's website) and I need a lot of those packages (such as 
libc++6) for running other scripts on qtopia.  Anyways, after upgrading, 
I restart my phone and it freezes on the blank black screen with a 
cursor in the upper left corner.  The phone won't ever boot!  So I have 
to reflash the lastest image I just tried to upgrade.  I've attempted 
this twice, and I can't upgrade my phone!

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Re: Which ATT data plans are compatible?

2008-08-08 Thread Matthew Lane
ian douglas wrote:
 Ken Restivo wrote:
   
 They actually hire people to sit around and snoop people's UserAgent strings?
 

 It's easy to automate since surfing non-SSL sites should send your HTTP
 headers in plain text, so they you can simply watch the packets and keep
 track of data counts, browsers, etc. for each wireless account.

   
 Their unlimited data plan used to be $20/month but they raised it to $30 
 for the new iPhone. Tethering adds even more because they expect that 
 you'll be downloading much more data than users who don't tether.
   
 So unlimited data isn't unlimited at all?
 

 As far as I've seen, personally, it's unlimited. Of course, I tend not
 to tether my ATT phone to my laptop and download ISO-sized files or
 anything. I'm sure if you reach a certain amount of traffic, they'll
 notice you. Last month I only downloaded about 60MB on my phone.

   
 But I'm told that Sprint Metro PCS allows unlimited data, and tethering, for 
 US$60/mo
 

 That's slightly cheaper than ATT then, who charges me $69/month for
 unlimited data plus tethering.

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Instead of just tethering couldn't you set up a proxy server on your OM 
and since the user agent is in plain text, change firefox to minimo? I 
imagine the user agent signatures are pretty similar.

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Re: Upgrading on Qtopia

2008-08-08 Thread Matthew Lane
Lorn Potter wrote:
 Matthew Lane wrote:
   
 Hey all,

 I've read that opkg can't upgrade qtopia, but it should be able to 
 upgrade my kernel, correct?
 

 Thats correct, Qtopia's 4.3 build system does not make a complete ipkg 
 for easy upgrade. This will change in 4.4

   
 Well, when I do opkg update, opkg upgrade my phone will spend about 
 20-30 minutes updating everything (from the latest qtopia image on 
 trolltech's website) and I need a lot of those packages (such as 
 libc++6) for running other scripts on qtopia.  Anyways, after upgrading, 
 I restart my phone and it freezes on the blank black screen with a 
 cursor in the upper left corner.  The phone won't ever boot!  So I have 
 to reflash the lastest image I just tried to upgrade.  I've attempted 
 this twice, and I can't upgrade my phone!
 

 There is a new image at qtopia.net. This new one _should_ be able to 
 upgrade the system.

 As well, there is a qtopia binary only tarball which has a script to 
 update just qtopia in case you don't want to backup your settings.



   
Awesome, thanks for the response.

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Re: battery again

2008-08-01 Thread Matthew Lane
W.Kenworthy wrote:
 While in a meeting, I let the battery run down to 0% (as read by apm)

 Now when I plug it into usb, I get 

 cat /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/chgmode gives play-only

 and 

 cat /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/charger_type gives host/500mA
 usb mode 100mA

 Is it charging (at 100ma) and I just need to let it do its thing ?

 Will the wall charger work better - its at home(!)

 Or do I need to jump start the battery? :(

 Shouldnt the phone have shut itself down at 0% as protection?

 2007.2 with todays updated kernel
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I believe the neo sometimes can use more than 100mA to operate, so just 
plugging it in without enabling fast charge could STILL discharge the 
battery.  You need to enable 500mA or 1A quick charge, as noted by the 
poster above me.

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Suspend / Resume

2008-07-30 Thread Matthew Lane
Hey all,

I've been playing around quite a lot with 2007.2 and Qtopia.  I love the 
speed behind Qtopia, but I feel very limited by it.  Anyways,  I was 
wondering about resume  suspend.  I have read in the past there have 
been some bugs with it and it's not entirely finished, but I was 
wondering if my problems are common as I cannot find any documentation 
on suspend/resume in the wiki, and not particular answers to my 
questions in previous discussions on the mailing list.

When suspending, GSM calls DO wake the phone up, but SMS does not?  
Also, when I resume from a suspend, I cannot send/receive SMS?  Qtopia 
also seems to have this problem..once I suspend I cannot receive SMS, 
and I'm not even sure if sending works either.  Is this common?

Also, after resuming from a suspend, my FR tells me that my battery is 
almost dead.  Even if the battery was at full, and my FR only suspended 
for ~1 hr.  Is this also a common problem?

Thanks!

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Re: Suspend / Resume

2008-07-30 Thread Matthew Lane
Balaji Rao R wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 2:12 AM, Matthew Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Hey all,

 I've been playing around quite a lot with 2007.2 and Qtopia.  I love the
 speed behind Qtopia, but I feel very limited by it.  Anyways,  I was
 wondering about resume  suspend.  I have read in the past there have
 been some bugs with it and it's not entirely finished, but I was
 wondering if my problems are common as I cannot find any documentation
 on suspend/resume in the wiki, and not particular answers to my
 questions in previous discussions on the mailing list.

 When suspending, GSM calls DO wake the phone up, but SMS does not?
 Also, when I resume from a suspend, I cannot send/receive SMS?  Qtopia
 also seems to have this problem..once I suspend I cannot receive SMS,
 and I'm not even sure if sending works either.  Is this common?

 
 Well, mine does wake up most of the times when I get a call, not always.
 There appears to be a bug. It does not resume reliably always. But sometimes
 I've seen it resume after a very long time. Most of the times I need
 to reboot the
 phone to get it back.

   
 Also, after resuming from a suspend, my FR tells me that my battery is
 almost dead.  Even if the battery was at full, and my FR only suspended
 for ~1 hr.  Is this also a common problem?

 
 Wait for sometime after the resume, for the battery status to be reported
 correctly. There's probably a bug with reading the battery status right after
 resume.

   
The battery status does eventually (usually) report correctly after a 
while.  However, I'm having a trouble getting SMS to work correctly 
after a suspend.  This appears to also happen on Qtopia, so I'm 
wondering if it's a kernel issue?

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Re: So what should I learn and develop for?

2008-07-30 Thread Matthew Lane
Gothnet wrote:
 As a newcomer to the Openmoko scene, I've started to notice that there are a
 lot of different firmwares out there, some from Openmoko and some from other
 places.

 I'm a C programmer by trade with almost a decade of commercial experience,
 mostly in server/backend stuff. I want to start looking at Openmoko and the
 FreeRunner but  I'm now not sure which frameworks, firmwares and library
 sets I ought to be looking at.

 What's the stable openmoko distribution?
 Should I start working against Qtopia as it's got a wider device base and
 (probably) a larger community?

 I must admit I like the idea of making debian workable, but from the
 distributions page that looks like it has a long way to go before I'd get a
 workable phone out of it.

 What's the state of play guys?
   
 From my (little) experience it seems that Qtopia is by far the most 
usable (as a phone), and I would say for general end-user (if you can 
even find just average end-users yet!) they are using Qtopia.  2007.2 
mostly seems to house developers, and I see a lot more power and 
potential from the 2007.2 framework, but personally I think Qtopia is 
the most stable.

It looks like future frameworks are heading towards the ASU or FSO?  I'm 
not really sure, although ASU seems to be a merge of 2007.2 and 
Qtopia, so perhaps that direction is what you're looking for?

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Re: sound

2008-07-29 Thread Matthew Lane
Pawel Kowalak wrote:
 On Jul 29, 2008, at 2:33 PM, William Kenworthy wrote:

   
 I had the same issue and found that mwester had a solution has  
 worked
 for me for a while now.

 http://moko.mwester.net/fixes.html

 I still have suspend resume issues but this works most of the time.

 
 Sound came back the next wakeup and no problems since.  A bonus is the
 whole FR seems more stable.
 

 Unfortunately there's no GPS/SD fix in this kernel:
 uImage_2008_07_16_gta02_73eeb0333fc771cb696ff9bf17c517c741434b59.bin

 I can't get fix since installed this kernel. But suspend / resume  
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Speaking of suspend/resume, I'm also wondering if other people are 
having battery problems?  Whenever I wake my FR up from suspend, my 
battery seems practically dead (or a lot lower than it was) even if it 
only resumed for ~1 hr.

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Re: SMS

2008-07-26 Thread Matthew Lane
Charles-Henri Gros wrote:
 stef wrote:
   
 hello,
 i've got my freerunner since thursday and it works quite fine except the
 SMS applet.
 At first I could open the applet and send messages but now it fails.
 When I try to start the
 applet it seems to be loading but it stops after a while. Is there any
 way to fix it or to reinstall
 the applet??
 

 I've had the same problem when I had a null contact in my contact
 list. See if you have this (It can happen when you try to add a contact
 but then give up, and maybe other situations)


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GPS Maps

2008-07-25 Thread Matthew Lane
Hey everyone,

I'm wondering how I can use tangoGPS with maps.  I've gotten my GPS to 
get a fix, and tangoGPS picks up the data, but I have no maps!  How can 
I download maps and use them with tangoGPS?  I'm assuming I'll put them 
on my microSD card, but how do I let tangoGPS know where the maps are?  
Do I use openstreetmaps.org?  Any help with this would be great, and if 
no one else wants to, once I get it working I'll document it in the 
wiki.  Thanks!

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Re: GPS Maps

2008-07-25 Thread Matthew Lane
arne anka wrote:
 I download maps and use them with tangoGPS?  I'm assuming I'll put them
 


 this has been discussed exhausting just yesterday:
 http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-July/023537.html

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Re: Ringtone and vibration configuration

2008-07-25 Thread Matthew Lane
Dylan Reilly wrote:
 I am hoping to make some scripts, etc. for incoming call scenarios.

 1) What mixer setting in alsamixer controls the ringtone volume?
 2) What alsa profile is used when a call is first incoming? gsmhandset.state?
 3) How can one control the state of the vibrations (on, off, and ideally 
 etc.)?

 I know the answer to this must be somewhere but despite looking near
 and far I could not find it documented.

 Thanks.

   
When you finish these scripts, can you add them to the wiki  document 
your change in the mailer so I can find it? thanks!

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Re: Which distribution to use on FR?

2008-07-24 Thread Matthew Lane
Steven ** wrote:
 I'm using OM2007.2.

 Qtopia did run well for me and could make/receive calls just fine.
 But Qtopia can't run GTK apps and that's one of my only requirements
 (since I've put a lot of work into a GTK app I'm writing).
 Theoretically, ASU is a merge of Qtopia and OM2007.2.  But I could
 make or receive phone calls on it and quickly went back to OM2007.2.

 If the 2 second startup is too long for you, consider leaving the app
 running.  Then it takes a split second to switch back to it.

 -Steven

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 Hi,

 I am new to OM and just received my new FR a couple of hours ago.
 I've been playing around with different distributions/images and am now
 wondering which distribution you guys prefer, use, and/or recommend:
 - OM2007.2
 - ASU
 - FSO
 - Qtopia

 Actually, I tried all of the above ones (most recent versions/snapshots)
 except FSO. Only for OM2007.2, making phone calls worked out of the box. On
 ASU and Qtopia I couldn't make phone calls (or receive).

 Optically, I likes OM2007.2 best, however, it is awfully slow and constantly
 has a load  2. Why is this?


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My apps tend to hang for a very long period of time in 2007.2, 
particularly when searching contacts, or listing text messages from a 
contact.  Is this patched, or will it be fixed any time soon?

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Re: Issues / Quirks with SMS via GUI (Messages app)

2008-07-20 Thread Matthew Lane
Joachim Breitner wrote:
 Hi Matthew,

 Am Freitag, den 18.07.2008, 13:40 -0400 schrieb Matthew Lane:
   
 Second, this is more of a major issue but I am not sure if it's 
 carrier-related or a problem with the phone's Message software itself.  
 When attempting to send a text message, I cannot send a message to a 
 number formatted (123) 456-7890 (eg. how VCard inserts its numbers).  
 However, when I text a number in the format 1234567890 it works just 
 fine.  VCard importing prefers the (123) 456-7890 format unfortunately.
 

 I have filed a bug about this at
 https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1643
 you might want to put yourself on the CC list. I hope that someone that
 knows enough about libgsmd and phone-kit can tell where the problem
 should be fixed.

 Greetings,
 Joachim
   
 

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Re: Messages Program Issue

2008-07-19 Thread Matthew Lane
Andreas Dalsgaard wrote:
 It will do so if you have any null contacts in your addressbook

 2008/7/19 Matthew Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   
 Whenever I launch my Messages program (with a sim or without) it begins
 loading, and then immediately crashes and shows nothing.  I have
 attempted rebooting the xserver and rebooting the phone itself, with and
 without the SIM card, connected to the PC and not.  There doesn't seem
 to be anything I can do to read my text messages.

 I am experiencing a very slow (and sometimes buggy) Messages program and
 I don't see any documentation on this.

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I don't have any null contacts.

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Re: Better keyboard?

2008-07-19 Thread Matthew Lane
Jeremiah Flerchinger wrote:
 Do you want to redesign the matchbox keyboard or use a different one?
 Feel free to modify any of the keypads on the projects page.  I can
 actually help with gtKeypad and have a patch in the works that will
 allow changing of key size with a config file.

 On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 20:32 -0400, Matthew Lane wrote:
   
 arne anka wrote:
 
 http://www.ginguppin.de/node/15

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 I would like to know how to redesign the keyboard to give it bigger 
 buttons so that I can use my finger instead of the stylus?  The current 
 matchbox keyboard's keys are way too small.

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I honestly don't care if I redesign it or just get a new one.  I like 
the matchbox keyboard because it has all of the keys that I'll need for 
terminal use, but the drawback is they all have to fit!

I saw a screenshot of a bigger keyboard with circular buttons used on 
the Neo1973, which keyboard is that?

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Re: Strange things

2008-07-18 Thread Matthew Lane
Curtis Vaughan wrote:
 Couple of strange things. Maybe someone knows what's up.

 1. So, I have my phone set up for Power Manager to dim and then lock. I 
 would say about every 3 minutes after it's locked, the screen will come 
 up with the lock. Then it dims and goes out, to come up again about 3 
 minutes later.

 2. My sound drops off completely every now and again. That is, if someone 
 calls, it just vibrates. If I answer I can hear them, but there is no 
 ring. But then I noticed when this happens that there is no sound for 
 music either. 
 I've restarted both alsa and pulse and the music will play, but not the 
 ringer.
 Actually after this, I decided to reboot FR and then the music player 
 wouldn't start. 
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I'm also having similar problems.  And sending an SMS message via the 
GUI on the stock 2007.2 build is via an icon above the contact's number.

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Re: opkg gcc

2008-07-18 Thread Matthew Lane
Greg Bonett wrote:
 Ah, thanks, I'll see if I can get that to work as soon as I get home.

   
 I think that gcc is named /usr/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc.


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 Greg Bonett wrote:
   
 Hey is anyone else having trouble with the version of gcc in opkg?

 I can run a 'opkg install gcc' without any trouble but I still get
 
 'gcc:
   
  not found' when i try to use it.  looks like it make some files in
 /usr/lib/gcc and /usr/libexec/gcc
 
 I've had the exact same problems (was trying to compile Git on the
 phone) with both gcc and g++.  I even tried using `find / -name gcc`,
 but I couldn't find the gcc binary at all.

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I was trying to compile a simple hello world application using 
/usr/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc and it gave me this error:

arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc: error trying to exec 'cc1': execvp: No 
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Issues / Quirks with SMS via GUI (Messages app)

2008-07-18 Thread Matthew Lane
Hey all,

I have a few issues / quirks with the Messages app in sending and 
reading SMS messages.

First, a problem I noticed was that when switching to the middle option 
in the Messages program (where the FR lists all text messages) was 
extremely slow.  The whole program would lock up (I could still tab to 
other programs) but my Messages program would run extremely slow.  This 
is NOT related to the SIM, as I have popped out the SIM card and 
experienced the same issues.

Second, this is more of a major issue but I am not sure if it's 
carrier-related or a problem with the phone's Message software itself.  
When attempting to send a text message, I cannot send a message to a 
number formatted (123) 456-7890 (eg. how VCard inserts its numbers).  
However, when I text a number in the format 1234567890 it works just 
fine.  VCard importing prefers the (123) 456-7890 format unfortunately.

Also, the majority of my text messages are inserted into the Unknown 
Sender contact, because some carriers append a 1 at the beginning of 
their numbers.  Is there any simple solution for the Messages program to 
identify this?

And one curious question, what does the mail sending icon embedded 
into some outgoing text messages indicate?

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Re: Issues / Quirks with SMS via GUI (Messages app)

2008-07-18 Thread Matthew Lane
Matthew Lane wrote:
 Hey all,

 I have a few issues / quirks with the Messages app in sending and 
 reading SMS messages.

 First, a problem I noticed was that when switching to the middle option 
 in the Messages program (where the FR lists all text messages) was 
 extremely slow.  The whole program would lock up (I could still tab to 
 other programs) but my Messages program would run extremely slow.  This 
 is NOT related to the SIM, as I have popped out the SIM card and 
 experienced the same issues.

 Second, this is more of a major issue but I am not sure if it's 
 carrier-related or a problem with the phone's Message software itself.  
 When attempting to send a text message, I cannot send a message to a 
 number formatted (123) 456-7890 (eg. how VCard inserts its numbers).  
 However, when I text a number in the format 1234567890 it works just 
 fine.  VCard importing prefers the (123) 456-7890 format unfortunately.

 Also, the majority of my text messages are inserted into the Unknown 
 Sender contact, because some carriers append a 1 at the beginning of 
 their numbers.  Is there any simple solution for the Messages program to 
 identify this?

 And one curious question, what does the mail sending icon embedded 
 into some outgoing text messages indicate?

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Messages Program Issue

2008-07-18 Thread Matthew Lane
Whenever I launch my Messages program (with a sim or without) it begins 
loading, and then immediately crashes and shows nothing.  I have 
attempted rebooting the xserver and rebooting the phone itself, with and 
without the SIM card, connected to the PC and not.  There doesn't seem 
to be anything I can do to read my text messages.

I am experiencing a very slow (and sometimes buggy) Messages program and 
I don't see any documentation on this.

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Re: Issues / Quirks with SMS via GUI (Messages app)

2008-07-18 Thread Matthew Lane
Bob Frank wrote:
 I also have these problems... My carrier does append a 1 at the 
 beginning (t-mobile USA), but I had my vcard with the format of just 
 the numbers, so I just appended a one onto all my contacts.  I would 
 prefer a nicer looking format, but I don't care enough to change anything.

 On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Matthew Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Matthew Lane wrote:
  Hey all,
 
  I have a few issues / quirks with the Messages app in sending and
  reading SMS messages.
 
  First, a problem I noticed was that when switching to the middle
 option
  in the Messages program (where the FR lists all text messages) was
  extremely slow.  The whole program would lock up (I could still
 tab to
  other programs) but my Messages program would run extremely
 slow.  This
  is NOT related to the SIM, as I have popped out the SIM card and
  experienced the same issues.
 
  Second, this is more of a major issue but I am not sure if it's
  carrier-related or a problem with the phone's Message software
 itself.
  When attempting to send a text message, I cannot send a message to a
  number formatted (123) 456-7890 (eg. how VCard inserts its numbers).
  However, when I text a number in the format 1234567890 it works just
  fine.  VCard importing prefers the (123) 456-7890 format
 unfortunately.
 
  Also, the majority of my text messages are inserted into the
 Unknown
  Sender contact, because some carriers append a 1 at the
 beginning of
  their numbers.  Is there any simple solution for the Messages
 program to
  identify this?
 
  And one curious question, what does the mail sending icon embedded
  into some outgoing text messages indicate?
 
  Thanks!
 
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Smashing the numbers together and placing a 1 in front is a workaround 
for that issue, but what about the other issues?  My messages program 
went from slowly loading to completely crashing any time I attempt to 
load it, so I'm not really sure what to do as I can't access any of my 
SMS messages now.

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Re: Messages Program Issue

2008-07-18 Thread Matthew Lane
On further investigation, using the libgsmd-tool program, listing SMS 
messages gives the program a segfault.  I seem to be able to execute any 
of libgsmd-tool's shell commands EXCEPT anything SMS-related.  Is there 
any way to wipe my SMS clean?  There is absolutely no way that I can 
access / delete any SMS messages at the current state of my phone, and 
that's my primary form of communication.  Can anyone help?

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Re: Better keyboard?

2008-07-18 Thread Matthew Lane
arne anka wrote:
 http://www.ginguppin.de/node/15

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I would like to know how to redesign the keyboard to give it bigger 
buttons so that I can use my finger instead of the stylus?  The current 
matchbox keyboard's keys are way too small.

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Re: Messages Program Issue

2008-07-18 Thread Matthew Lane
Does anyone at least know where the in-memory storage of SMS messages 
are?  I can't seem to find them.

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Re: Issues / Quirks with SMS via GUI (Messages app)

2008-07-18 Thread Matthew Lane
Joachim Breitner wrote:
 Hi,

 Am Freitag, den 18.07.2008, 13:40 -0400 schrieb Matthew Lane:
   
 Second, this is more of a major issue but I am not sure if it's 
 carrier-related or a problem with the phone's Message software itself.  
 When attempting to send a text message, I cannot send a message to a 
 number formatted (123) 456-7890 (eg. how VCard inserts its numbers).  
 However, when I text a number in the format 1234567890 it works just 
 fine.  VCard importing prefers the (123) 456-7890 format unfortunately.
 

 I can confirm this, and I’ll have a look at that while trying to fix the
 next issue. But if you come up with a patch faster, great :-)

   
 Also, the majority of my text messages are inserted into the Unknown 
 Sender contact, because some carriers append a 1 at the beginning of 
 their numbers.  Is there any simple solution for the Messages program to 
 identify this?
 

 I’m working on that, prelimary patches are
 https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1606, although not complete. As
 soon as I find time, I’ll try to complete this, and also fix this issue
 for the dialer and other parts.


 Greetings,
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Re: A Few Questions (Regarding images, wpa_supplicant, and core programs)

2008-07-16 Thread Matthew Lane
Thanks for the updates.

I'll probably switch to one of the newer kernel builds once om releases andy's 
gps kernel patch.

As for the Messages program taking a long time to load, this issue very well 
could have to do with accessing my SIM.  Is there a setting somewhere to only 
use in-phone memory and not use the SIM?  I already have my contacts imported 
into the evolution dataserver, so how can I force new contacts  text messages 
to NOT be saved on the SIM?


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Re: wifi

2008-07-16 Thread Matthew Lane
Stephen Shelton wrote:
 I've been beating my head against the wall trying to get my FR to connect to 
 any
 secured wireless AP. It has no trouble connecting if there is no encryption, 
 but
 I've had no luck otherwise.

 If anyone has had a better experience than me, perhaps you could take a look 
 at
 the GTA02 WLAN page on the wiki (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_WLAN) 
 and
 contribute or clean up.

 Most specifically, I keep getting messages such as ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]
 which would lead me to believe the kernel is unhappy...

 Much thanks to anyone who might contribute...
   
I've spent a great deal of time messing with WIFI also.  Once I get some 
more experience with the OM platform, I might contribute to building a 
gui network manager.

I also get that error message when starting udhcpc.  All the tricks lie 
in your wpa_supplicant.conf file located in /etc/wpa_supplicant/.  There 
are a few [poorly] written syntax tutorials to create this 
wpa_supplicant, but once you get the swing of it, it's not too bad.  
What kind of network are you attempting to connect to?  I haven't 
figured out how to connect to my university's PEAP network yet, but I 
have gotten WPA2  Open networks to connect successfully.

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WLAN WPA-PEAP

2008-07-15 Thread Matthew Lane
Hello,

I was curious if there was implemented support for WPA-PEAP with the 
GTA02 WLAN chip?  I'm receiving errors about WPA-EAP, PEAP, and TKIP 
unable to parse.

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Re: WLAN WPA-PEAP

2008-07-15 Thread Matthew Lane
arne anka wrote:
 I was curious if there was implemented support for WPA-PEAP with the
 GTA02 WLAN chip?  I'm receiving errors about WPA-EAP, PEAP, and TKIP
 unable to parse.
 


 well, tkip works -- could you be more specific?
 what errors exactly?

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Perhaps my syntax isn't correct for the wpa supplicant; I'm having 
difficulty finding documentation for manually writing a wpa supplicant 
using PEAP. 

network={
ssid=PAL2.0
scan_ssid=1
key_mgmt=WPA-EAP
eap=PEAP
identity=username
password=password
auth_alg=TKIP
}

This yields:

WPA: Configuring Interface
Line 21: invalid key_mgmt 'WPA-EAP'
Line 21: no key_mgmt values configured.
Line 21: failed to parse key_mgmt 'WPA-EAP'.
Line 22: unknown EAP method 'PEAP'
You may need to add support for this EAP method during wpa_supplicant
build time configuration.
See README for more information.
Line 22: failed to parse eap 'PEAP'.
Line 23: invalid auth_alg 'TKIP'
Line 23: no auth_alg values configured.
Line 23: failed to parse auth_alg 'TKIP'.
Line 27: failed to parse network block.

Thanks for any clarification!

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Re: WLAN WPA-PEAP

2008-07-15 Thread Matthew Lane
arne anka wrote:
 network={
 ssid=PAL2.0
 scan_ssid=1
 key_mgmt=WPA-EAP
 eap=PEAP
 identity=username
 password=password
 auth_alg=TKIP
 }

 

 hm. the wpa_supplicant.conf of my laptop quotes the following example

 network={
 #   ssid=example
 #   key_mgmt=WPA-EAP
 #   eap=PEAP
 #   identity=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 #   password=foobar
 #   ca_cert=/etc/cert/ca.pem
 #   phase1=peaplabel=1
 #   phase2=auth=MSCHAPV2
 #   priority=10
 #}

   
 You may need to add support for this EAP method during wpa_supplicant
 build time configuration.
 

 this indicates your requested method is not available -- but at least the  
 defconfig of wpa-supplicant_0.6.3 from openembbeded enables everything  
 with PEAP:

 # EAP-MSCHAPv2 (automatically included if EAP-PEAP is enabled)
 CONFIG_EAP_MSCHAPV2=y

 # EAP-TLS
 CONFIG_EAP_TLS=y

 # EAL-PEAP
 CONFIG_EAP_PEAP=y

 which version is installed, ie what does
 wpa_supplicant -v
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Do I not need an auth_alg argument?  My wpa_supplicant version is 
0.5.5.  Is the package in the repository?  I'll check when I get home 
from work and attempt to update the package via opkg.

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Re: Highest order number shipped? (Was Number of GTA02s ordered)

2008-07-10 Thread Matthew Lane
christopher bradski wrote:
 I'm receiving mine today order #1440 :)
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 Daniel Dadap wrote:
   
 Steven Kurylo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 I think you're pretty low.  In another thread someone said their OM
 store tracking number was 1087.  Mine is in the 1600s.  While there
 are some assumptions there, it strongly indecates they've shipped 600
   
 from their store alone.

 Has yours shipped yet? Our 10-pack is order #2267. I wonder how many they 
 ship a day.

 I wonder what the highest order number shipped yet is... Anyone get a ship 
 confirmation last night? If you think you have a high number, what was it?
 

 Check and add to this list:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Where_is_my_Freerunner?

   
Yep I'm in the 1300's and mine shipped yesterday.

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Re: Highest order number shipped? (Was Number of GTA02s ordered)

2008-07-10 Thread Matthew Lane
Dustin Knie wrote:
 Have you all added stuff to the Wheres My Freerunner? page? its 
 semi-useful for us with ADD trying to figure out when we might get 
 confirmation... ;)

 On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Matthew Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 christopher bradski wrote:
  I'm receiving mine today order #1440 :)
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  Daniel Dadap wrote:
 
  Steven Kurylo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  I think you're pretty low.  In another thread someone said
 their OM
  store tracking number was 1087.  Mine is in the 1600s.  While
 there
  are some assumptions there, it strongly indecates they've
 shipped 600
 
  from their store alone.
 
  Has yours shipped yet? Our 10-pack is order #2267. I wonder how
 many they ship a day.
 
  I wonder what the highest order number shipped yet is... Anyone
 get a ship confirmation last night? If you think you have a high
 number, what was it?
 
 
  Check and add to this list:
  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Where_is_my_Freerunner?
 
 
 Yep I'm in the 1300's and mine shipped yesterday.

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Re: Number of GTA02s ordered as of 10 Jul 2008

2008-07-10 Thread Matthew Lane
Dustin Knie wrote:
 Absolutely.  I'm hoping they post some sort of stats for the first few 
 days after shipping catches up. And based on the order numbers, i'm 
 leaning toward probably an intial run around 1500-2k.

 On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Francesco Cat 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I must admit I am really courious about how many FRs will be sold
 within the end of 2008. I really hope someone will tell us this
 number, don't matter when :P

 2008/7/10 Kevin Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Ron K. Jeffries
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  My gut says OpenMoko first mass production run was approx
  1,000 to 1,500.
 
 
  I think you're dramatically low-balling it. You're basing that
 on the
  number of phones ordered, but aren't factoring in the number shipped
  to resellers who have the item in stock but haven't sold it to a
  customer yet, the number in transit to those retailers and the
  distribution centers (one can assume that they're producing are
 a rate
  faster than they're shipping to customers), the number put into
  people's hands as test equipment for major media outlets,
  universities and the like. I'm willing to bet that, like Koolu,
 there
  are people or organizations with devices that aren't in end-user
 hands
  yet - an Android based Freerunner like the W.E. Phone (for instance)
  doesn't exist yet, but it's safe to say they're developing it on
 some
  form of hardware.
 
  Realistically speaking, the number of people with Freerunner's in
  their hands don't matter too much. The only reason I care at all
 about
  how many devices Openmoko fabricated is to know if they're
 generating
  revenue to be secure in a future product line. The number of devices
  produced doesn't correlate the the number of community members (one
  can assume there are device owners who will never join the OM
  community and that there are members without devices) and the number
  of users with devices doesn't correlate to Openmoko's profitability.
  Openmoko earns profit on devices that end up in closets and
 warehouses
  just the same.
 
  And... A bit more bluntly... I think there's a reason that the sales
  figures haven't been released. :)
 
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On the where's my freerunner wiki page there are numbers in the 3000's, 
and you have to consider that many orders are 10-pack orders, so you're 
probably looking at something like 10% (guess?) orders are 10 packs.  
10% of 3000 = 300 x 10 = 3000 + 90% of 3000 = 5700 from the online 
shop.  Again, a complete guess ballpark figure, but it's something to 
think about.

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US Shipping

2008-07-09 Thread Matthew Lane
Has anyone had their phone shipped within the US from the openmoko 
store, and if so what was your order number?  Just curious :)

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Shipping dates

2008-07-07 Thread Matthew Lane
Does anyone know when the open moko's online store begins shipping?  I 
don't imagine the US post office has begun working until today (Monday)?

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Re: Openmoko Webshop Reopen NOW!!!

2008-07-03 Thread Matthew Lane
Brad Pitcher wrote:
 Harry wrote:
   
 Dear All,
 Sorry for delay long time!!!
 So far, only GSM850 Freerunner is available in stock, Debug board and 
 spare also!!!

 http://www.openmoko.com/store.html

 Freerunner is running

 Thanks and BR



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 I really want to get one so badly but I'm afraid of getting the wrong 
 GSM frequency.  I live in Oregon, USA and use T-Mobile.  Can anyone 
 advise?  I looked at the website suggested in the store and it says 
 T-Mobile uses GSM 1900.  Does that mean I can't use any FreeRunner?
 Thanks,
 Brad

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Brad,

The FR is a tri-band GSM phone which means it works on all 850/1800/1900 
frequency networks.  To my knowledge US carriers don't use the 900 mhz 
band, so the 850mhz model FR (which also includes 1800 and 1900 mhz) 
will work with any US carrier.

Matt

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