Re: New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner
On Sunday 10 January 2010 13:59:01 Denis Johnson wrote: Good work, Do I only need the .bin or the config and modules also. I have tried just the .bin using qtMoko v16 image and it boots quite quickly to qt ui then cycles to black screen with blinking cursor then after some time back to qt screen then back to black screen. etc I guess this is because you are missing the modules and QtE cannot start up its daemons correctly. Try to ssh into your fr and unpack the modules on /. AFAIK you don't need the config. Michael signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] Alternatives to FR
On Friday 08 January 2010 11:10:49 Neil Jerram wrote: 2010/1/8 Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com: What I fear about N900 is that it always stays as one single high-end model to nokia. There were always single model in the past: n700, n800, n810 Huh? That looks like 3 models to me. And the N900 makes 4. I think he meant concurrent models, not incremental releases. However, I think (and hope) once the 5 Step program for the maemo development is finished we will see a lot more Maemo devices from Nokia. Btw, if there an SHR porting effort to N900? Or e libraries? Doesn't the N900 use the standard Debian archive? (I only know that part of the community has pushed for that for a long time...) If it does, the question becomes whether the e libraries are in Debian. No. The N900 uses dpkg/apt and .deb packages but they are not exactly the same as debian ones. There are some additional tweaks and hooks to regard the limited ressources on mobile devices. However. You can re-package debian packages for maemo without recompiling the source. Cheers, Michael signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QT and dbus - no such signal
On Friday 08 January 2010 12:52:14 Christian Rüb wrote: Hi, I am about to write my own little GPS application in Qt and try to connect to FixStatusChanged signal from Gypsy but have the following problem Code snippet: ... deviceInterface = new QDBusInterface(org.freedesktop.Gypsy, /org/freedesktop/Gypsy/default, org.freedesktop.Gypsy.Device, QDBusConnection::systemBus(),this); ... connect(deviceInterface, SIGNAL(FixStatusChanged(int)), this, SIGNAL(fixChanged(int))); try this: ... deviceInterface = new QDBusInterface(org.freedesktop.Gypsy, /default, org.freedesktop.Gypsy.Device, QDBusConnection::systemBus(),this); Qt doesn't need the full path for the node again. Here you find some very useful QtDBus examples: http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials#D-Bus Not sure if you know about qdbusviewer. It comes with your Qt4 installation and helps you a lot debugging and understanding DBus. Hope this helps. Michael signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] Alternatives to FR
On Thursday 07 January 2010 21:57:01 Bastian Muck wrote: Am 07.01.2010 21:08, schrieb Jim Ancona: On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 06.01.2010, 17:28 +0100 schrieb Laszlo KREKACS: What do you think which mobile phone has the most likeliness to RE or somehow put fso on it? - Google Nexus http://www.google.com/phone/ Unlikely. Same as all other Android phones. Nightmare to get root and after that, you have quite some work to remove the Androidisms. Or teach FSO to use them as well. Modem-interface unclear. No rooting neccessary. As I posted earlier on this thread, the Nexus One allows users to unlock the bootloader. See http://tinyurl.com/y9nusuy Wow, that looks nice. Then there is hope, that (except Freerunner) there will be another phone looking up for the award of the most free phone. FWIW, you don't need to void your warranty to get root or flash the device with the N900... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] Alternatives to FR
On Wednesday 06 January 2010 17:28:07 Laszlo KREKACS wrote: What do you think which mobile phone has the most likeliness to RE or somehow put fso on it? - Nokia N900 http://maemo.nokia.com/n900/ The N900 runs a debian like linux with an X11 server. I'm pretty sure it would be possible to put FSO on it. It is pretty much open. You can reflash it with the official nokia flasher and get root access without any hazzle. Basically everything running on debian-arm will run on the n900 (after re-packaging - no recompiling). http://maemo.org There is also a community based Distro called Mer. It is completely open source and based on ubuntu. There is also a freerunner port of it somewhere around the net. - Palm Pre http://www.palm.com/us/products/phones/pre/ I had the chance to play around with a Palm Pre. You can activate a serial terminal through USB by pressing some fancy key combos. After that you can install usb networking and dropbear ssh. You'll find an openembedded linux with a very limited version of ipkg. However, you can activate openembedded repositories and have pretty much everything you have on an openwrt router. No X11 though. http://www.webos-internals.org - Apple iphone http://www.apple.com/iphone/ IIRC there is a linux distribution for the iPhone. I have no idea what state they have reached... I wouldn't hope too much that FSO is useful on iPhones MacOS though... Anyways, IMHO the constant locking/jailbraeking race with apple isn't worth it. About android. Just install it on your FR and play a little around. It is pretty much the same you can expect from any android phone I guess (except better stability and performance then on the freerunner)... From what I've seen every manufacturer (except Apple) lets you reflash the phone selecting your own image and getting root access without big hazzle. But they are all trying to hide the linux side as much as possible except Nokia. The N900 comes with X11 and x-term preinstalled and you have the possibility to add devel-repositories where you can even contribute your own projects. gcc is just an apt-get install away :) Cheers, Michael signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix (Was: Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?)
On Friday 01 January 2010 20:35:03 Jens Seidel wrote: On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 07:26:37PM +0100, Esben Damgaard wrote: Yes and no. I have two Freerunners (and a gta01 that collects dust). One without buzzfix. Using it for testing, programming and playing. Other one with buzzfix and using it as primary phone. I'm curious, do you notice any difference between the buzz fixed one and the other? I read that only a few phones are affected by the buzz problem but nearly all (including the buzz fixed ones) have major problems with audio quality (noise, echo). I own a rev. A5 freerunner and was seriously affected by the buzz problem. After applying the hardware fix the audio quality improved a lot. Before the fix there was no chance to use the FR as a phone. However, the audio quality was never as good as on a friends rev A7 FR (without buzz-fix). I did a lot of experimenting and tweaking with all possible audio parameters but the volume has always been either too low or distorted. He just uses the default audio configs and has nearly no problems with sound quality. So I wonder whether it's worth to get such a fix. It is definetly worth it if you, or better said your call partner expierences a rather loud buzz. The fix will remove that buzz but won't fix other issues like rustling, echo or low volume. Those issues can mostly be addressed with software. Hope that helps, Michael signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QtMoko v14] importing contacts
Hi all! I decided to try QtMoko. It looks quite nice. Its fast and at a first look it makes a rather complete impression. However I tried to import my contacts but it didn't work. I exported my addressbook from Kontact into one vcard and copied it over to the neo. Then I called this on the neo: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/qtmoko/lib/ /opt/qtmoko/bin/addressbook /tmp/addressbook.vcf This opened up a dialog asking me to import all my contacts and even showed the first 3 of them correctly in the dialog. I confirmed and it seemed to import everything successfully. But the contacts are not shown in the addressbook. I remember on om2008 there was an option in the menu to select contacts from sim or from internal database. This option seems to be missing in qtmoko. Anyone has an idea how I can bring my contacts to show up in qtmokos addressbook? I couldn't find much information about QtMoko in the wiki. Thanks Michael signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko v14] importing contacts
On Thursday 08 October 2009 20:51:19 Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: Hi, On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Michael Zanetti michael_zane...@gmx.netwrote: I exported my addressbook from Kontact into one vcard and copied it over to the neo. Then I called this on the neo: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/qtmoko/lib/ /opt/qtmoko/bin/addressbook /tmp/addressbook.vcf FWIW, I did this (but via a ssh'ed shell): r...@neo:~# source /opt/*qtmoko*/qpe.env r...@neo:/root# DISPLAY=:0 LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/*qtmoko*/lib /opt/*qtmoko* /bin/*addressbook* /home/root/Documents/phone.vcf Thanks! sourcing qpe.env fixed it! Michael signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tangogps 0.9.7 release
Hi Marcus, Thank you very much for TangoGPS. It is without any question my favourite app for the Freerunner. You are doing a great job! However, there is one thing that you could improve: Sometimes, when I use tangogps for navigating I end up in areas not yet mapped on OSM. In that case it would be great to be able to store the current track afterwards if the Track logging has not been started before. Currently TangoGPS throws away the current track information if one presses Start Logging. Thanks again, Michael On Monday 21 September 2009 18:43:37 Marcus Bauer wrote: Heya out there! First of all thanks for the many positive emails I got over the last months, motivating me to bring a new release of tangoGPS to the coolest open hardware gadget on earth - the openmoko phone. The new features include: * overzoom until level 20 * upscaling of missing tiles * a map scale indicator * overhauled this point function - easy measuring of distances and ways - display of bearing = useful for navigation * friend function simplified and you can now add a message to your position As always, it runs well on your laptop/netbook too. The full release announcement is here: http://www.tangogps.org/gps/cat/News I am currently looking for cool stories/photos/blog entries for featuring on the website. Thus send me your stories, pictures or links - be it on the Freerunner or any other device. Have fun! Marcus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Rustling noise on phonecalls
Just in case anyone is still experiencing this problem: I have been able to solve it now and have put all the information from this thread into the wiki. https://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Alsa_state_a7 I hope this helps someone. Cheers, Michael On Sunday 05 July 2009 15:19:41 Michael Zanetti wrote: Hi everyone, Lately my Buzz-fixed Freerunner began to make a rustling noise during phonecalls. I cannot hear it on my side but I constantly get complains from the persons on the other end. Some test calls here confirmed that the noise is really here and its really loud too. It is not the well known buzz. It sounds more like if a small animal were sitting in the mic and moving around during the phonecalls. Or if I would constantly rustle with a peace of paper against the mic. I have already opened it and checked if the buzz fix is there how it should be but everything seems to be ok. I've also cleaned out the dust from the mic hole but the rustling is still here... Judging from the time when other people complains started I think it happened after an upgrade of my SHR unstable. But I'm not really sure. It could also be that the GSM firmware upgrade to moko-11 somehow triggered this behaviour as I've upgraded it about 2 weeks before the complains started. This happens now with SHR as well as with om2009-testing5. I am using the gsmhandset.state file suggested by Jörg. Anyone has an idea what could be the cause of this. In this current state my freerunner is absolutely useless as a phone. Thank you all, Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Openwrt] how to ssh OM?
On Saturday 25 July 2009 12:35:19 jumper dev wrote: hi, how do I ssh OM using openwrt? when I used om08 I used this script for ssh and internet access but it doesnt work with openwrt.. #!/bin/sh sudo ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 sudo /sbin/route add -host 192.168.0.202/32 dev usb0 sudo iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 sudo iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT sudo sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 sudo scp /etc/resolv.conf r...@192.168.0.202:/etc/resolv.conf Check out the wiki page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenWrt See the bottom of the page on how to connect via usb. Cheers, Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Rustling noise on phonecalls
On Wednesday 08 July 2009 07:52:09 jeremy jozwik wrote: On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Michael 'Mickey' org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device.SetSpeakerVolume( percentage ). wow. thats quite a file name, do you have a path along with that? That should be a D-Bus call. Try mdbus -s. However you still can use alsamixer instead during a phonecall when logged in over ssh. AFAIK the relevant sliders are Speaker Playback Volume and Mono Playback Volume. Cheers, Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Rustling noise on phonecalls
On Sunday 05 July 2009 19:44:43 Ben Wong wrote: On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Michael Zanettimichael_zane...@gmx.net wrote: Judging from the time when other people complains started I think it happened after an upgrade of my SHR unstable. But I'm not really sure. Yes, SHR-unstable is the culprit. I'm currently dual booting SHR-testing and SHR-unstable, and SHR-unstable is utterly unusable because people can't understand me. (Which I'm not complaining about, by the way. It is called unstable for a reason.) I'd bet that if you revert to SHR-testing, everything will be hunky-dory again. OK. I'll check it out with SHR-Testing and will let you know if it works there. But as I said... It happens also with OM2009 Testing 5... So it seems to be a problem with latest versions of frameworkd? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Rustling noise on phonecalls
Hi everyone, Lately my Buzz-fixed Freerunner began to make a rustling noise during phonecalls. I cannot hear it on my side but I constantly get complains from the persons on the other end. Some test calls here confirmed that the noise is really here and its really loud too. It is not the well known buzz. It sounds more like if a small animal were sitting in the mic and moving around during the phonecalls. Or if I would constantly rustle with a peace of paper against the mic. I have already opened it and checked if the buzz fix is there how it should be but everything seems to be ok. I've also cleaned out the dust from the mic hole but the rustling is still here... Judging from the time when other people complains started I think it happened after an upgrade of my SHR unstable. But I'm not really sure. It could also be that the GSM firmware upgrade to moko-11 somehow triggered this behaviour as I've upgraded it about 2 weeks before the complains started. This happens now with SHR as well as with om2009-testing5. I am using the gsmhandset.state file suggested by Jörg. Anyone has an idea what could be the cause of this. In this current state my freerunner is absolutely useless as a phone. Thank you all, Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why is it so slow ?
On Wednesday 01 July 2009 19:48:55 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: On 7/1/09, Michael Zanetti michael_zane...@gmx.net wrote: On Wednesday 01 July 2009 17:52:20 jeremy jozwik wrote: only slowness that annoys me is application load time in shr. everything else is a ok. Scrolling is wy to slow too... This is the case on nearly all apps on om200x and SHR. Especially a full SHR Messages inbox takes forever to move the list around. The only exceptions I know are canola that feels a bit smoother and Neon that scrolls really fast. Cheers, Michael In SHR just use X11-16 engine (ELM_ENGINE=x11-16). It'll be *much* better. I've tried this... Setting SOFTWARE_16 in illume settings affects only illume itself. All SHR apps still scoll slow as always. How do I set this option for all ELM apps? Thanks, Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why is it so slow ?
On Wednesday 01 July 2009 19:56:20 jeremy jozwik wrote: have yet to install neon have we? http://www.opkg.org/package_62.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why is it so slow ?
On Wednesday 01 July 2009 20:27:26 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: On 7/1/09, Michael Zanetti michael_zane...@gmx.net wrote: On Wednesday 01 July 2009 19:48:55 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: On 7/1/09, Michael Zanetti michael_zane...@gmx.net wrote: On Wednesday 01 July 2009 17:52:20 jeremy jozwik wrote: only slowness that annoys me is application load time in shr. everything else is a ok. Scrolling is wy to slow too... This is the case on nearly all apps on om200x and SHR. Especially a full SHR Messages inbox takes forever to move the list around. The only exceptions I know are canola that feels a bit smoother and Neon that scrolls really fast. Cheers, Michael In SHR just use X11-16 engine (ELM_ENGINE=x11-16). It'll be *much* better. I've tried this... Setting SOFTWARE_16 in illume settings affects only illume itself. All SHR apps still scoll slow as always. How do I set this option for all ELM apps? Thanks, Michael Just set ELM_ENGINE env variable to x11-16. You must know about /etc/profile, didn't you? ; oops... I was looking for an elm config file... Thanks! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why is it so slow ?
On Wednesday 01 July 2009 20:25:43 jeremy jozwik wrote: yes i know what neon is. have you tried it was the question. the scrolling speed is one of the best for the freerunner Yes, I meant that as an example for an app with very great scrolling speed. Cheers, Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-unstable] packages for canola media player
On Monday 15 June 2009 15:04:59 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: yes, it was done for 800x480 (Maemo N800/N810), but as I said if we find out a designer to do the graphics I can try to allocate one of my resources to do the OpenMoko work. I'm just wondering... What would like to redesign? IMHO it would be enough to scale down the current track information and the position slider a little bit. The menus etc are looking nice in landscape mode and I don't see any reason why not use canola in landscape mode as it is a full-screen application anyways. Cheers, Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-unstable] packages for canola media player
Hi, Really cool! Thank you very much for the packages. I didn't even know they opened their source code. Canola is by far the coolest media player for mobile devices I've seen so far. And everthing works as expected on the freerunner except the battery and network indicators. Even performance is good in comparison to other apps on my freerunner. I've tested only the music section so far, no videos, pictures, podcasts etc... The packes work fine on up-to-date shr-unstable. The first install run stopped due to a file conflict between etk-themes and etk-theme-shr. But I don't think this is related to your packages. The second run (whithout changes) completes fine though. Thanks again, Michael On Thursday 11 June 2009 14:02:17 Hermann Lacheiner wrote: Hi! I have created packages for the canola media player (see http://openbossa.indt.org/canola/ for screenshots). canola was originally developed for the maemo platform and was open sourced recently. It is based on the e17 libraries, so it is destined for the shr distribution ;) Sources for the packages are from http://local.profusion.mobi:8081/ based on the branches from Gustavo. canola has some dependencies so I created a testing feed. You can find the packages at http://schagaga.de/canolafeed/ The bitbake recipes are mirrored at http://schagaga.de/myoverlay/ opkg install canola installs canola and all its dependencies on the FR. Currently there are a few glitches: * canola package depends on glibc-gconv-iso8859-15 otherwise lightmediascanner does not work * player UI does not fit exactly the lower resolution on the FR (canola is optimised for the resolution on the Nokia N8x0 800x480) but it's usable. User experience is better when rotating screen in landscape mode. As backend mplayer is used for playback. Generally the UI is a little bit sluggish on the FR than on the Nokia N8x0 but I think it's really usable. I am looking forward to your feedback ;) Cheers, hermann ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Help requested: SHR Screenshots
On Tuesday 09 June 2009 00:05:10 Jon Levell wrote: Michael Zanetti wrote: How did you get the category bar on the bottom for example on screenshot #2753? I think that is a screenshot of Launcher: http://www.opkg.org/package_220.html No... It also isn't launcher... If it were launcher there were a clock and date on the background... This seems to be something that just manages categories for the desktop (hopefully much faster than sortdesk) and doesn't duplicate the clock and call notifiaction tasks... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher/Home Page (alpha) Release 0.20
On Wednesday 03 June 2009 12:02:46 Petr Vanek wrote: In contrast to Warner I really like the scroll bar at the bottom, and I find it not only nice looking, but also very easy to use with one hand. The only problem I found so far is that it scrolls not only horizontally but also vertically. yes, i was looking at the same scroll bar used in illume settings and there it doesn't scroll up and down, which might be the reason why the response is so funny... Yes, thats true... The toolbar in illume's settings is easier to use because it doesn't scroll horizontally. I've noticed this in other apps too. All lists scoll slower if the smooth-bounce-back-at-end feature is enabled. Altough it looks very nice, it may be too heavy for the freerunners hardware. But, this also seems to be a common problem of elementary. For example look at Neon. It scrolls really smooth. I have no idea what toolkit they use, though... Apart from this I'd vote for the toolbar and against the dropdown list. Thanks c_c! Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher/Home Page (alpha) Release 0.20
On Wednesday 03 June 2009 19:49:01 Michael Zanetti wrote: On Wednesday 03 June 2009 12:02:46 Petr Vanek wrote: In contrast to Warner I really like the scroll bar at the bottom, and I find it not only nice looking, but also very easy to use with one hand. The only problem I found so far is that it scrolls not only horizontally but also vertically. yes, i was looking at the same scroll bar used in illume settings and there it doesn't scroll up and down, which might be the reason why the response is so funny... Yes, thats true... The toolbar in illume's settings is easier to use because it doesn't scroll horizontally. Sorry, of course I meant vertically... I've noticed this in other apps too. All lists scoll slower if the smooth-bounce-back-at-end feature is enabled. Altough it looks very nice, it may be too heavy for the freerunners hardware. But, this also seems to be a common problem of elementary. For example look at Neon. It scrolls really smooth. I have no idea what toolkit they use, though... Apart from this I'd vote for the toolbar and against the dropdown list. Thanks c_c! Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher/Home Page (alpha) Release 0.20
On Wednesday 03 June 2009 12:02:46 Petr Vanek wrote: In contrast to Warner I really like the scroll bar at the bottom, and I find it not only nice looking, but also very easy to use with one hand. The only problem I found so far is that it scrolls not only horizontally but also vertically. yes, i was looking at the same scroll bar used in illume settings and there it doesn't scroll up and down, which might be the reason why the response is so funny... I have also noticed that the toolbar uses resizes all entries according to the longest name. Perhaps it would be worth a try to rename Uncategorized into Others to make way to scroll shorter. Cheers, Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher/Home Page - proof of concept - release
On Tuesday 26 May 2009 03:50:58 c_c wrote: All feeback / ideas welcome. This is not even alpha as of now. So go ahead with your wishlists! Cool, you've fixed nearly all of my feedback already! 0.16 looks already better but IMHO the settings aren't that importat to stay always as the very first element of the ui. Wouln't it be better to move to as a normal icon to the system category? Nearly everyone needs them just once. Oh! And I've had another idea right now. What about dropping the drop-down- list for the categories and use the GUI element (not sure how it's called) that is also used by illume settings and elmphonelog for categories. IMHO that would be a big improve in terms of usability and coolness as it is a very finger friendly widget. It would have some sort of recognition value on illume based systems. Cheers, Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher/Home Page - proof of concept - release
On Wednesday 27 May 2009 15:46:53 c_c wrote: Michael Zanetti wrote: What about dropping the drop-down-list for the categories and use the GUI element (not sure how it's called) that is also used by illume settings and elmphonelog for categories. Are you talking about the toolbar? Well, I'll lose a lot of screen space that way wont I. Hi, Yes... The toolbar would use more space than the drop down list. But In my it would be worth it. Here is a quick mockup about how I could imagine it. http://follefuder.org/mockup1.png Anyways, you are the author, you decide. This is just an Idea that I'd like to share with you. Oh, and thanks for version 0.18! Cheers, Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher/Home Page - proof of concept - release
Hi, Thanks for this app! It looks very promising on my SHR phone. Here my first experiences: Switching between categories works very fast. I noticed that switching to an empty category sometimes moves the drop-down-list down so that one cannot reach all entries. The displaying of new sms and missed calls works well and also looks nice. It would be great to insert some empty space between this and the categories. Perhaps it would be even better using a new line for it. It would be really great to have some sort of feedback when launching apps. I always end up starting the apps twice. It is not really multi tasking capable. IMHO it shouldn't wait for the started apps. Is it possible to make all entries in drop-down-lists the same width? I think it would look way better. I also noticed this on other apps, so I think it's an elm thing. Its a great start. Keep it up! Michael On Monday 25 May 2009 13:21:45 c_c wrote: Hi, Well, seeing as there scope for having a decent launcher / home page, I thought I'll make one. The result - launcher is written in C and uses sqlite and elementary. It works, provides some needed features and lacks a few. Features * Missed call indication * New SMS indication * Ability to set own wallpaper * Categorise applications and see them in categories Missing (but planned) * better placement of icons * launching feedback * notification dbus service * notification area Help Needed * artwork * elementary related (layout mainly) * dbus service (maybe discuss on ML) * c based framework for adding widgets Any other Ideas / Suggestions. Screenshot. http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2969146/Screenshot.png http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2969146/launcher_0.11_arm.ipk launcher_0.11_arm.ipk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Suspend/Shutdown/Etc dialog is only 1 pixel wide!
On Monday 11 May 2009 10:43:17 Charles Clément wrote: I do use the suspend button a lot, as a substitute I created an application entry with the line: Exec=mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage org.freesmartphone.Usage.Suspend and clicking on it suspends the phone. It might be helpful to others not wanting to switch to unstable ... You can also assign the keypress to the suspend command in the illume settings... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Mokomaze] Online level editor
On Saturday 09 May 2009 12:45:04 ANT wrote: Tested on Firefox, Opera, Chrome. Works also with Konqueror! Very nice! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Messages Contact Lookup
On Sunday 10 May 2009 01:13:26 Dan Staley wrote: I just flashed the latest SHR unstable (built today) and all sms messages still just get a number displayed instead of a name for me, even if the person is in my contacts list. The lookup seems to work fine on incoming calls though. Can anyone else confirm this behavior? Same here... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [New Mokomaze] Coming soon
On Friday 08 May 2009 02:32:40 Denis Johnson wrote: Could you or someone please describe where and how to install fsoraw on shr-testing (23 Apr or so) ? There is a howto on the mokomaze project webpage. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-testing] create contact from pyphonelog entries
On Tuesday 05 May 2009 07:52:09 Bram Mertens wrote: Great, haven't seen that seen I've only subscribed to (only heard about it's exisitng) this week. Any idea when this would make it to testing? I seem to recall reading somewhere that SHR-testing is currently more recent than SHR-unstable. Is thta no longer true or is there another reason why this newer version of opimd is not in SHR-testing? I'm running SHR-Testing and I'm using elmphonelog. It works great except that it crashes when I try to store something to opimd. But for managing contacts on SIM card it works like a charm. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR,FSO] Serenity theme for illume
On Tuesday 05 May 2009 10:19:06 Xavier Cremaschi wrote: Just a question : before I used shr-testing and serenity, and my apps were black (tangogps, wifimofi). Yesterday I flashed my FR to restore a fresh new shr-testing, I restored serenity too, but my apps are grey (like a classical gtk widget). An idea ? Well, you're missing the GTK theme file. Unfortunately I cannot tell you where to find it. I'm looking for it myself for a while now without success. Anyone knows where to get the black gtk theme? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: copy a file from smartphone to pc
On Tuesday 05 May 2009 11:54:23 Anas Alzouhbi wrote: Hello! I want to transfer a file from my smartphone to the pc, for exemple the file name is toto4 and the username of my pc is elzouebi I runned this command scp toto4 elzou...@192.168.0.200 , it created a file called elzou...@192.168.0.200 on the smartphone :( You have to give the destination of the copied file: scp toto4 elzou...@192.168.0.200:/path/to/destination ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Mokomaze 0.5.0] is released
On Saturday 02 May 2009 07:20:28 ANT wrote: Nicola Mfb on shr-unstable mokomaze E displays two icons, I had to remove extra categories in the .desktop file. Thanks for report. The Digital Pioneer To fix the icon, just edit the .desktop file and change the Icon=mokomaze to Icon=mokomaze.png If these problems (double icons and no icons) are new or previous version of the game (0.2.3) has them too? I'll see FreeDesktop Menu Specification and repack .ipk and .deb. Here the icon was missing too. After I restarted the neo the icon appeard. No change in the .desktop file was needed... Thanks for this great game! Version 0.5 really rocks!!! Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner ships with unsupported release? Why?
On Wednesday 18 March 2009 03:52:51 Ron K. Jeffries wrote: The Wiki says, in part: Choosing a distribution Official/current. As of December 2008, the phones ship with Om 2007.2 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2007.2. It is not supported by Openmoko Inc. anymore. The branch currently supported by Openmoko Inc. is Om 2008.12 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.12_Update ~~ I'm puzzled why OpenMoko ships phones with a distribution that's no longer supported. --- Ron K. Jeffries A friend of mine received his revA6 Freerunner in January and afaik it was shipped wirth Om2008.x. Because of the boot time I believe it was 2008.12 but I haven't seen it myself... He just told me about the black illume theme. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Thinking deeply about cofundos.org
On Tuesday 17 March 2009 11:13:18 Friedrich Clausen wrote: Shall we make SHR PIM enhancements a project on Cofundos? While I think this cofundus.org thing is a really good idea to push development forward, I think we should not create tons of projects right now. This will split up developer resources and founds again while we are trying to join them. Anyways, the lack of PIM in SHR is the only reason why I'm not using it on a regular basis. It would be very nice to have it. Perhaps we should create a doodle poll to determine what cofundus projects are the most needed/wanted :) Well, I think we should see how this turns out. Wait for the wiki-page, Risto's contest results etc and see how many users, developers, distributors etc are joining. Then we get a better feeling about how many founds still make sense. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Yet Another Screen Of Death
On Thursday 12 March 2009 12:59:45 Denis Shulyaka wrote: Hi list! I think something similar have already been discussed here, but not exactly my problem. The problem is: I can't wake up from suspend. The first time after reboot I try to wake it up it showes me a white screen with a horisontal gray line at the bottom which quickly fades to black screen. The rest of the system is working, I can ssh into the device and suspend it again using power button. The next time I try to wake it up it usually showes me black screen, but sometimes it's white and sometimes I see vertical black/gray/white 'jazzy' lines that respond on me touching the screen. The most interesting thing is that sometimes it showes a normal screen even if it was unable to wake up previously. I can't tell whether it is temperature related, but it definately doesn't matter how long it was suspended. It never happens on startup. I'm using OM 2008.12 distribution. I tried andy-tracking kernel about a month ago with no luck. Is it a ralatively common problem or I'm so unlucky to be the only one? I had this issue too after trying out andy-tracking. It seems to be related o Qi. I have found this workaround on the devel mailing list: create a file /etc/apm/resume.d/01display: #!/bin/sh export DISPLAY=:0 echo qvga-normal /sys/bus/spi/devices/spi2.0/state echo normal /sys/bus/spi/devices/spi2.0/state xrandr -s 480x640 make it executable and enjoy your WSOD-free Neo Freerunner :) Hope this helps. Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pulster fixe(s) and rework
On Thursday 05 March 2009 10:38:56 Helge Hafting wrote: Andy Green wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 01:19:07AM +0100, Fox Mulder wrote: | Andy Green wrote: | Johnny Tenfinger is right despite it sounds strange. On some or all | A5s there is no base current limit resistor on the bipolar transistor | used to light the AUX LED. | | This 50mA fault current then flows not through the LED (which has a | reasonable series current limit resistor), but through the GPIO IO | cell and the driver transistor base. | | If this is the problem than it really is a bad design flaw... | Maybe i should test the AUX LED on my gta02v5 how much current it uses | when it is on. | | Ouch. I just tested mine, and the AUX LED really uses that much (about | 50mA). Does a SOP exist to fix this? No there's no real hardware fix that's practical. We could have done something extreme like PWM the enable by software in FIQ ISR, but it would result in dim AUX LED even so, since the LED is not seeing the excess current but just normally lit. It was fixed on A6, I'm afraid we just have to let it lie and not use the AUX LED much as pointed out unless we're on external power. Now that's an idea. How about using it as a battery charging indicator? the orange thing can be used for other purposes then. Thats how it is used currently in Om2008.x. Now that I know of the issue I think it would make sense to change the framework to also use this LED as the battery indicator I also like to use the Orange/Blue LEDs to indicate the current USB mode state: Off - Device Mode + Networking Orange - Device Mode + Storage Blue - Host Mode Blue+Orange - Powered Host mode Using Orange/Blue as a charging indicator wastes all 4 LEDs to just indicate charging/not charging... The red one is useless due to this bug. The orange and blue are busy because of the charging indication and you can't use the violet mode because you can't reuse the orange and blue ones... So, please consider changing the framework to use the red LED to indicate the battery charge state. Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: YAIKT - Yet Another Illume Keyboard Thread
Thanks for your reply. But I think you misunderstood me. I already have created my keyboards and use them since over a month now. In fact, they are very similar to the ones you have posted but optimized for german text. Anyways, this thread should discuss the slide-up-to-switch-layout functionality but not the layouts itself. On Monday 02 February 2009 12:19:06 Pander wrote: Michael Zanetti wrote: Hi all! I'm using the illume keyboard on my OM2008.12 powered Freerunner. I have created my own keyboard layouts that perfectly fit to my needs: 1. qwerty without any special characters - Finger friendly illume-keyboards-numbers-alt http://www.opkg.org/package_106.html 2. Numbers and most special chars - Finger friendly 3. Full-featured notebook-like with all the crap you never need - Stylus friendly you can take this one as inspiration illume-keyboards-dutch-nl http://www.opkg.org/package_87.html the characters with diacritics are optimised for dutch language according to character histograms but it is perfect for stylus ful feature work. When using my FR as on the go, I constantly need the first two layouts. And I have to switch quite often beween them but I never use the third one. When I'm at home and fiddle around with lots of terminals and stuff like that, it happens that I need the third layout. But then, I have a stylus. The problem now is, that when I'm writing a message using my thumb and switch between the different layouts I need to slide the keyboard up once to switch from the qwerty layout to the numbers but I have to slide up twice to get back to the qwerty one. This is because I have to hop over the full-featured layout that I cannot use with my fingers. The idea is this: It would be great to be able to define if a layout should be addressed when sliding the finger up. This way, only the finger-friendly keyboards would be visible when using the FR only with your fingers. When using a stylus one could still open the terminal-keyboard using the menu on the upper right of the keyboard. This could be done by defining a property in the keyboard file just like for example the property for enabling/disabling the dictionary. IMHO this is not the ultra-mind-blowing idea, but would be a little step closer to the worlds best on-screen-keyboard. What do you think? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
YAIKT - Yet Another Illume Keyboard Thread
Hi all! I'm using the illume keyboard on my OM2008.12 powered Freerunner. I have created my own keyboard layouts that perfectly fit to my needs: 1. qwerty without any special characters - Finger friendly 2. Numbers and most special chars - Finger friendly 3. Full-featured notebook-like with all the crap you never need - Stylus friendly When using my FR as on the go, I constantly need the first two layouts. And I have to switch quite often beween them but I never use the third one. When I'm at home and fiddle around with lots of terminals and stuff like that, it happens that I need the third layout. But then, I have a stylus. The problem now is, that when I'm writing a message using my thumb and switch between the different layouts I need to slide the keyboard up once to switch from the qwerty layout to the numbers but I have to slide up twice to get back to the qwerty one. This is because I have to hop over the full-featured layout that I cannot use with my fingers. The idea is this: It would be great to be able to define if a layout should be addressed when sliding the finger up. This way, only the finger-friendly keyboards would be visible when using the FR only with your fingers. When using a stylus one could still open the terminal-keyboard using the menu on the upper right of the keyboard. This could be done by defining a property in the keyboard file just like for example the property for enabling/disabling the dictionary. IMHO this is not the ultra-mind-blowing idea, but would be a little step closer to the worlds best on-screen-keyboard. What do you think? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: YAIKT - Yet Another Illume Keyboard Thread
On Monday 02 February 2009 12:25:46 Joel Newkirk wrote: On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:55:12 +0100, Michael Zanetti michael_zane...@gmx.net wrote: Hi all! I'm using the illume keyboard on my OM2008.12 powered Freerunner. I have created my own keyboard layouts that perfectly fit to my needs: The problem now is, that when I'm writing a message using my thumb and switch between the different layouts I need to slide the keyboard up once to switch from the qwerty layout to the numbers but I have to slide up twice to get back to the qwerty one. This is because I have to hop over the full-featured layout that I cannot use with my fingers. Just checking - are you aware that you should be able to slide down as well? if you have three keyvboard layouts defined, the 'other two' are always a single stroke away, up or down. Sliding down results in a Enter keypress here... Only sliding up changes the layout. Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02
Hi Tschaka! On Saturday 31 January 2009 15:11:58 Tschaka wrote: 1st) Battery Power sometimes i'm at university from 9am to 10pm 6 days a week. I'm often browsing mobile news pages with my phone when going to university, or having a chat (XMPP of course!), approx 40 minutes a day. In the meantime i'm listening to music. I got no actual watch, so my phone is my watch, means i often activate the background light to get to know the time. I'm sending like 1-5 messages a day, having a phone call now and then. Now and then i would like to access the web via wifi. So, since i'm not able to plug the phone to a power source at university, would i be able to run it the whole day, without getting out of battery power after 10 hours? And, will there be a (software) fix (soon) for the issue, that the battery gets uncharged, even if plugged in, as soon as the battery is fully charged? (i got no problem charging the phone every night, but when it's fully charged at 2am, it would have been running 7 hours on battery power by my arrival at university, so the battery would be low sooner) One day of usage is no problem here... Sometimes I reach even 2 days. But not very often yet. Overall experience is that battery lasts longer from upgrade to upgrade. I cannot confirm the issue that the battery gets uncharged even if plugged in... 2) Calls As i'm sometimes having a phone call (huh, surprise), i would like to know, if the echo, and especially the buzzing issue will be fixed soon. I read, the echo was fixed in FSO/SHR already, but regarding the buzz i read the mailing list, but there i didnt feel i got a reliable answer(sorry for asking again). i'm not familiar with soldering iron, and i'm not willing to crack up another phone (already did once this way :) ). So, will there a fix of this buzzing soonish by default (a7, a8?) on the base of the often refered capacitor? (as i said, i'm not willing to pay twice, getting a gta03 later due to unfixed buzz problems, or replacing a damaged freerunner). Also, i'm not willing to pay 300€ for a phone that doesnt allow me to have a nice talk with my dad or gf on an at least acceptable level for the person on the other end (u know, my gf isn't that patient and insightfull with opensource software(issues) as i am, it took me weeks and shutting down icq completely to convince her to use xmpp :) ) Not sure when rev A7 will come But I expect it to contain the Buzz fix. Anyways, it looks like openmoko is concerned in applying the Buzz fix to already sold devices too. Not sure if/when this will happen. But signs point to soon. As you are a Student I think it wouldn't be too dificult finding a person at university that could help you applying the buzz fix. Anyways, I'd understand if you find it too risky. The echo is fixed in nearly every distribution meanwhile. As I have applied the Buzz fix on my moko the overall sound quality during phone calls is acceptable. Sometimes the volume is a bit low... But as I've already said: It is acceptable. I have already talked to my parents over one hour without one single complaint about the voice quality. 3) Software I got no problem with rudimentary software. Most important thing is Sending messages, Having a few Calls, Having GPS apps to improve Openstreetmap and such and browsing the web. I know the software is something being worked on, and apparently it improved a lot already. But: Do such basic features work already (like browsing phone book to make a call) acceptably reliable? I'm patient in handling problems and fiddling around a bit, wanting to have a succes in the end though. And: how sluggish is the software? i often read glamo slows the phone down pretty much. Software is nowhere near _finished_. There is software for everything you could immagine, but not really polished yet. Calls are working, but Dialer/AddressBook software is either slow (OM 2008.12) or only uses contacts from SIM card yet (SHR, FSO etc). Lets hope Paroli brings some more light into this area soon. SMS works fine here. With my self-created keyboard layout I can type a SMS using my thumb only in quite short time. IMHO GPS is the one working best. TangoGPS is way cooler as you could immagine. There are also routing engines like navit that allow you to use the FR as a navigation system. I haven't found any finger-friendly Web-browser yet, but there are some stylus- friendly browsers that seem to work. For IM you could use Pidgin. I have no idea how well it works on the FR though. There is also a console based IM client somewhere... Yes, the Glamo really seems to be the bottleneck... There are efforts to eliminate this by the community. Anyways... Overall performance is on the edge of beeing acceptable. Accessing wireless networks seems to be a command-line thing only yet. There are efforts for graphical frontends like MoFi but they do not work really well yet. Anyways, with a well
Re: [SHR] how to restore default illume theme
On Monday 22 December 2008 16:39:59 Nathan Kinkade wrote: 2008/12/22 Giorgio Marciano ledz...@writeme.com: How can i restore the default shr-illume theme? i've changed theme with a new one and it doesn't work! thanks Wrench - Look - Theme - select illume-shr doesn't do anything for you? I've run into this also... The problem is that once the theme is changed illume doesn't start up any more... You have to reset the config manually. AFAIK you can just copy the theme you want (illume-shr.edj) to ~/.e/e/themes/illume.edj. Illume will use this on next start. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
On Friday 19 December 2008 02:10:59 W.Kenworthy wrote: Actually, please add a camera. Many techos (that is those who work in technical areas) use the mobile phone camera in their work. I.e., photos of situations, faults etc for reference/passing on to support etc. Only one device to carry, and its always with you. Yes early ones were barely adequate (I used a Palm treo for this), but others moved onto nokias etc when they came with better cameras. The other side: Many techos (especially those working in automotive branch) are not even allowed to use mobile phones with cameras at work... I know... In the end it is a personal preference... But I still stand on my opinion that the camera is the last important thing that we need. When we have 3G connectivity I will stop ranting against cameras :) And how many controversial situations hit the news where a mobile phone camera was used as its on the spot and available? Again... personal preferences... But I really hate such stories where some low-end-prominence got captured in somewhat not situation by some idiot with his mobile phone camera where you can hardly think of what it should be because the picture is totally underexposed... It really makes me sick that people don't have better things to do... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Report] - Buzz fix
Hi! I just wanted to let you know that I have applied the Buzz fix to my Freerunner revision A5 according to this [1] paper and indeed the buzz is completely gone. Including the echo fix my Neo converted from the coolest toy to the coolest _phone_ I've ever had. I'm flashing 2008.12 right now. *very excited* Very big thanks to everyone involved working out this one! And thank you openmoko (the whole team) for this wonderful product! Michael [1] http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big- C_rework_SOP__DRAFT3__.pdf ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMooCow 0.3
On Friday 19 December 2008 22:13:21 Yann Neveu wrote: On Friday 19 December 2008 21:22:03 Klaus Kurzmann wrote: I had the same problem... modprobe snd-pcm-oss helped :-) For me, /etc/init.d/speech-dispatcher stop helped Yeah... This seems to work here also. But anyone has an idea what speech- dispatcher does? Don't we need it? The chance is rather high that it is more useful than openmoocow :D No offence... I love openmoocow! /Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
As It seems this thread is becoming more and more some sort of a whish-list, I will put my 2ct here also: - Please don't add a camera: Has ever anyone made a picture with a mobile phone camera that doesn't suck? Get a real camera if you want to make some nice pictures! There is just one way to get a useful camera within a mobile phone: Using very expensive optical lens and zooming technologies. But in that case, I'd prefer to use the money for a 3G modem which brings me to the next point in my whishlist. - 3G connectivity: Although it is very expensive, I think we _really_ need this one. I know so many people who would like to buy a Freerunner, but they don't do so because of the missing UMTS connectivity. - The rest could stay just as it is in GTA 02. Im perfectly happy with it. Perhaps the slow Glamo could be exchanged... But afaik this is done already... Cheers, Michael On Wednesday 17 December 2008 10:39:21 Laszlo KREKACS wrote: Depending on the feature set that can cut both ways. It could also be a case of I was going to wait for gta03, but I absolutely can't have a phone with a camera so I may as well get gta02 now for example. A must have for one person can be a deal breaker for another. I pick the camera as an example as I used to work on a site where cameras weren't allowed, but keypads and screen resolution have polarised opinions before too. Hi! I'm interesting only in two things: - camera (I assume yes, because of the camera interface of cpu; would be rather dumb not using it) - better case design (the current one is not even in the league with other phones;-|) For case design, I find these (among others) great: - http://www.om.vptt.ch/site/?page_id=53 - http://www.rasterman.com/files/gta03-idea-1.png - iphone In short: not make anything as stupid as a lanyard hole. I hope these features will be untouched: - vga screen - touchscreen - wifi - gps - usb host - sd card I expect these bugfixes: - better rfi design (no echo/buzz and ugly workarounds around them) - better audio quality - no glamo - better battery management (change the current PCF50633 PMU unit) - better 2D performance (should be achievable with the new samsung s3c6410 cpu) - better SD handling (straightforward, if you remove the glamo) For me the release date is not important. I can wait one year without buying a freerunner, if it takes 1-2 year I will consider freerunner as an option, but likely I will buy an another phone. Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
On Thursday 18 December 2008 12:29:08 you wrote: On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 12:24:52 +0100 Michael Zanetti babbled: i have. and millions of japanese have. in japan the mobile is pretty much replacing the low-to-mid-end camera. for happy time snaps. why? their lenses and cameras are GOOD. 5+mpixel was available years ago. Yep... unfortunately that millions of japanese people won't use the GTA03 without UMTS support... Anyways, I haven't said that it is impossible to create mobile phones with good camers. I have said that good cameras are expensive and we should first use that money for 3G connectivity. - 3G connectivity: Although it is very expensive, I think we _really_ need this one. I know so many people who would like to buy a Freerunner, but they don't do so because of the missing UMTS connectivity. - The rest could stay just as it is in GTA 02. Im perfectly happy with it. Perhaps the slow Glamo could be exchanged... But afaik this is done already... Cheers, Michael On Wednesday 17 December 2008 10:39:21 Laszlo KREKACS wrote: Depending on the feature set that can cut both ways. It could also be a case of I was going to wait for gta03, but I absolutely can't have a phone with a camera so I may as well get gta02 now for example. A must have for one person can be a deal breaker for another. I pick the camera as an example as I used to work on a site where cameras weren't allowed, but keypads and screen resolution have polarised opinions before too. Hi! I'm interesting only in two things: - camera (I assume yes, because of the camera interface of cpu; would be rather dumb not using it) - better case design (the current one is not even in the league with other phones;-|) For case design, I find these (among others) great: - http://www.om.vptt.ch/site/?page_id=53 - http://www.rasterman.com/files/gta03-idea-1.png - iphone In short: not make anything as stupid as a lanyard hole. I hope these features will be untouched: - vga screen - touchscreen - wifi - gps - usb host - sd card I expect these bugfixes: - better rfi design (no echo/buzz and ugly workarounds around them) - better audio quality - no glamo - better battery management (change the current PCF50633 PMU unit) - better 2D performance (should be achievable with the new samsung s3c6410 cpu) - better SD handling (straightforward, if you remove the glamo) For me the release date is not important. I can wait one year without buying a freerunner, if it takes 1-2 year I will consider freerunner as an option, but likely I will buy an another phone. Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ask Sean Moss-Pultz about community matters
On Monday 15 December 2008 21:13:56 Tim Dobson wrote: What phone is in your pocket right now? My good old Sony Ericsson M600i. What distro is it running? Why? M600i: Symbian UIQ3. Is it possible to install linux on it? Neo: currently SHR preview because I _really_ like the look and feel... Hopefully the final version will perform a little bit better... What do you use your phone for the most? M600i: Telephony. Neo: Flashing the latest and hottest stuff on it, pimping till the software is completely smashed... Flashing, pimping, braking. What distros have you tried? Om2007.2, Om2008.8, FSO, Android, SHR, Qtopia (and QTE), FDOM, Debian. Haven't tried ubuntu or gentoo yet on my Neo. What other portable consumer electronics do you use on a regular basis? Nokia N810 Who in the community, after yourself, deserves praise for their achievements which might otherwise go unnoticed? The guy who wrote openmoocow! No... honestly, everyone contributing to this great project deserves praise! What is the most pointless application on the Freerunner? What question... OpenMooCow of course... But even if its kinda useless, it's one of the mosed used openmoko apps here (after dfu-util :) ). Did you know that also Windows Mobile has a MooCow, although it is not open :P What is the most interesting thing you have seen the Freerunner used for? Running KDE4. Hopefully some day plasma will perform good enough on such small devices that we have a KDE phone edition or something like that... Which is your favourite Freerunner joke? Q: What is the difference between a professional photographer and OM user? A: The OM user has to flash more often :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: is FDOM unstable
On Sunday 09 November 2008 22:29:31 Atilla Filiz wrote: Hello I was trying my FR as my primary phone for one week. It went good with QTextended 4.4.1. Today, I decided to try FDOM. It is really nice that it comes withh the apss and fixes I would manually install anyway but it occasionally freezes, doesn't receive calls in time, and some apps(remoko, moocow etc.) simply won't start. i read really good comments on it so i was expecting a better put up collection. Is this normal or am I the only one. I flashed 081023 image with latest 2008.9 kernel. happy hacking Openmoocow, Duke Nukem etc don't start if the accelerometers are failing. To me, this happens after the first suspend cycle. Reboot to get these apps working. I cannot confirm the freezes as FDOM was quite stable here in terms of system freezes. It is slow. yes. But it is not FDOM but the qtopia apps on X11 (hence also OM-2008.x suffers this problem). They make every Phone related stuff real pain. Anyway, I have been using FDOM as my daily phone for quite some time now. Only the last week I used my old phone again because I decided to try out android on my freerunner. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[android] SIM pin entry
Hi, I decided to try android on my freerunner. It starts up fine here but after booting, the screen is locked and after pressing the Power/Menu button I am asked for my SIM pin. I have tried it now many times with different SIM cards but the result is always the same: It gives me Incorrect SIM pin. Has anybody already managed to enter the pin on his android powered freerunner? btw. If I boot my freerunner without a SIM card, I can use the menu, browse the apps etc. but obviously I cannot place any phone calls. Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] SIM pin entry
Am Mittwoch 05 November 2008 10:27:35 schrieb Anders Kristiansen: Well, someone wrote something about the call volume being low, so I guess it works for them.. It could also be that in this case the pin entry was disabled for this SIM card. But I get the same error :( On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Michael Zanetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I decided to try android on my freerunner. It starts up fine here but after booting, the screen is locked and after pressing the Power/Menu button I am asked for my SIM pin. I have tried it now many times with different SIM cards but the result is always the same: It gives me Incorrect SIM pin. Has anybody already managed to enter the pin on his android powered freerunner? btw. If I boot my freerunner without a SIM card, I can use the menu, browse the apps etc. but obviously I cannot place any phone calls. Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Any hope for bug #666?
Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 22:51:23 schrieb JC Denton: Hi, is there any new info / progress on bug #666 ( http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/666 ) that is not yet on the trac/wiki? That bug is now 15 months (!) old and has yet to receive any serious attention - I'm hesitating to buy a Freerunner solely because it most likely wont work with my O2 sim. Can any openmoko engineer shed some light on this - has there been anything from TI? My Freerunner worked fine with my O2 Germany 3G card from October 2006 and works fine with my new O2 Germany 3G card from July 2008. If you are unlucky enough to have one of those non-working sim cards you have a good change to get a working one (3G) by changing it in your local O2 store. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DIY Audioadaptor
On Tuesday 28 October 2008 21:12:16 elh wrote: Hi, I can't recommend this connector. It works, but not very well. I have to pull out the connector aprox. 1 mm to get stereo output. And this position is not very stable. I noticed this also with the original openmoko headset. So to me it seems the Jack inside the neo is the problem. Not the connector... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DIY Audioadaptor
On Wednesday 29 October 2008 11:31:25 Konstantin wrote: If this happens with your normal OM headset, too, then your mixer settings are probably wrong. I had the same problem too at the beginning, but fiddling around with the 'Left Mixer Left' and 'Right Mixer Right' playback switches (I think those were the ones, if not try other switches with left/right in their names) in alsamixer (i.E. turning them on) did the trick for me :) Thanks for the hint, I have tried to change the settings for Left * and Right * but it doesn't seem to help. All those switches just change the volume of the left (or is it the right?) side. Probably there is another setting causing this behaviour. I will try it again whe I have more time. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pingus ported
On Saturday 18 October 2008 23:38:26 Yogiz wrote: just do a simple script in Duke3d way and call it instead pingus directly #!/bin/bash xrandr -o 1 pingus xrandr -o 0 It's quite simple but it would be better if it's incorporated into the original ipk. +1 from me! If you are using FDOM you can just rotate the screen by using Tap/Untap prior to launching pungus. Anyways, installing a script that does it with the ipk obviously would be the best thing! Thank you for porting this. Its really fun playing pingus on the freerunner even if the hardware needs to go to its limits :) A hint for all players out there: don't try moving the screen like you would do with a mouse. Instead, tap the location where you wan't to go in the mini- map. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Which widget toolkit to use
On Saturday 18 October 2008 21:33:40 member kamituel wrote: My first thought was to use Gtk+, because I'm familiar with it and I like it. But then I noticed, that OpenMoko switched recently to Qt Extended, so I could go with Qt (I have some experience with Qt also, but not very big). No, Openmoko did not switch to Qt Extended. Qt Extended is capable of running on the Freerunner (and Neo 1973?) but the primary distribution at the moment is 2008.8. The future of Openmoko will be FSO's framework combined with 2008.8's window manager. Please correct me if I'm wrong. So, which of this two toolkits (or maybe some different one) should I use in order to guarantee that my app will run on future OpenMoko releases? AFAIK gtk and Qt (and some more?) will be supported also in future releases. If you need to intagrate with Phone/SMS/PIM just make sure you pick a toolkit that is capable of DBus. Have look at FSO for more information on that. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMooCow 0.1
On Thursday 16 October 2008 01:08:26 William Kenworthy wrote: Rather than reboot, suspend/resume usually works for me. Unfortunately it doesn't for me. Anyways I noticed that only the upper accelerometer (/dev/input/event2) stops working here. I have never seen this happening on do lower one (event3). For this I can't really understand why _every_ app around is using the upper one. I guess the lower one doesn't crash right because it is never used. But anyways, I have seen crashing the upper one even if unused quite often. This never happens with the lower one... Can anyone confirm this behaviour or am I alone in this situation? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMooCow 0.1
On Thursday 16 October 2008 17:57:58 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: In Italy we don't have such things/toys :P. Well, I had one, in Italy. Altough it may be possible someone of my parents friends brought it from germany. Can't remember. It's so many years ago... Basically it is a box with with some sort of airbag in it. One side is attached to the bottom and the other side has a heavy cap with holes on it. When you turn it upside down, it gets filled with air because the cap pulls the bag down. If you turn it again the cap falls down and pushes the air out through the holes. This makes the cow or sheep like sound. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Back to the basics: improving user experience
On Thursday 16 October 2008 23:22:26 t m wrote: Who cares a beep about wifi , speed, gps, accelerometer, booting time when the phone itself doesn't work. I agree about beep, speed, gps, accelerometer. But I would say a little bit of faster booting would be necessary in these early days where you have to reboot quite often. I don't neet a bootup time of 5 seconds yet but 3-4 minutes is definitely too long just to reactivate some peace of hard- of software. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMooCow 0.1
On Wednesday 15 October 2008 19:26:56 Tobias Kündig wrote: It doesn't work for me. If I tap the launcher icon the «loading...» screen appears, disappears and then nothing happens. I had this issue as well. Check wether your accelerometers work with: hexdump /dev/input/event2 If you don't get any output restart your neo and try again. Btw. is there any progress on the stability of the accelerometers? Mine still stop working after some little time in use and sometime even if they are not used. /Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved
On Wednesday 15 October 2008 08:18:40 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Here you are [1]. It includes also the mwester fix for re-registering network and my workaround for GSM firmware crash. I hope it won't have any incompatibility with your installed Qtopia... [1] http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/libficgta01vendor-echo-cance llation.so.tar.gz Thanks for the lib. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to fix the echo issue here... Also the buzzing noise is still very loud... Any suggestions? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Introducing http://www.opkg.org
Very nice site, indeed. I would suggest that you include license information and source code downloads. Also, as someone already mentioned, it would be great to have a repository of all your packages. On Sunday 12 October 2008 11:30:06 Tobias Kündig wrote: Hello everyone, I'm proud to announce my newest project: http://www.opkg.org It's a simple database of available *.ipk-Packages. I know, some time ago there was someone other who planned to do something like this. But it's been a long time since then. I don't think they are working on it anymore... It just confirms what everyone is saying about Openmoko: Everything is unfinished and takes forever to be done. In my opinion that's not true. All of you do a really great job. So I wanted to give my contribution to the community and build that Homepage. There is a lot to improve on the site. These are (some of) my targets: * add Search-Box * improve «Package-Detail»-Screen * improve Home-Screen Everybody is able to post new packages or edit packages. Just register and log in. It would be great if all of you would help getting the database populated. I added just a few packages, but I know there are more! If you find any kind of bugs on the page (espacially spelling mistakes) feel free to contact me. My first language is German - not English (I think you realized that lines ago...). I'm also happy if you send me your ideas and opinions! Thank you. Regards, Tobias ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Introducing http://www.opkg.org
On Sunday 12 October 2008 15:36:59 Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Michael Zanetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, as someone already mentioned, it would be great to have a repository of all your packages. Isn't the community repository doing more or less this? Hmmm... yes. Probably it would be an idea to combine the community repos and this page somehow... So one could browse the site and install the packages from the community repos. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: LED notification
On Thursday 09 October 2008 07:49:32 nickd wrote: No. You can get it to stay on but not flash, and this will kill the battery. Please forgive me if this was discussed already. But how do other linux powered devices (e.g. Nokia N8x0) manage their suspend? They seem to not go into such a deep suspend like the om's do. They just turn off the display (touchscreen is able to wake it up) but are still able to reach a battery life of 10 days. They do have blinking leds on incoming IM or e-mail messages even during suspend. Any ideas? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New pulseaudio supports bluetooth devices
On Thursday 09 October 2008 08:30:55 Fredrik Wendt wrote: tor 2008-10-09 klockan 01:19 +0100 skrev Rui Miguel Silva Seabra: PulseAudio 0.9.13 introduces support for Bluetooth audio devices http://pulseaudio.org/milestone/0.9.13 Very exciting. I've been using my SonyEricsson BT-headset for about 18 months using alsa's support for bluetooth and A2DP. With Ubuntu 8.04 the quality (hifi) went down marginally (I haven't had the time to search on how to increase sbc bitpool[0] (which is my guess on what happened)). 53 is indeed the best setting for the bitpool. Using higher bitpool values doesn't increase the quality much and I haven't seen many devices (mobile phones, headsets...) so far that support higher values. Instead, make sure you are using 8 Subbands (4 Subbands really smashes down quality) and a blocklenght of 16 (shorter blocklengths increase data throughput). Support for these settings is mandatory and most likely you have already set it up this way. If quality still isn't getting better I guess its the encoder you are using. I have seen some devices that have problems encoding/decodig with certain settings while other settings may work well. I haven't had any experience with alsa a2dp streaming so far though as I _really_ hate alsa config files. So I didn't take the time to setup a2dp streaming on my linux devices here... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved
On Sunday 31 August 2008 15:50:05 Al Johnson wrote: The patch turns on the echo and noise suppression capabilities in the GSM chipset using one of the hidden and NDA's AT commands someone kindly posted on the hardware list. Just for my understanding: I thought that on my openmoko-phone even the hardware is supposed to be free and open. How can it be than, that there are hidden commands and NDA's? I read somewhere (long time ago - before the FR reached its birthday) that there might be some pieces of hardware not open such as the GSM chip. I guess exactly this is the case. Could someone experienced to NDA's, copyright laws, GPL violations and so on please explain me how exactly this is handled here? Thanks Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved
I see... Thank you very much for these clarifications. Michael On Wednesday 08 October 2008 13:52:58 Alastair Johnson wrote: Michael Zanetti wrote: On Sunday 31 August 2008 15:50:05 Al Johnson wrote: The patch turns on the echo and noise suppression capabilities in the GSM chipset using one of the hidden and NDA's AT commands someone kindly posted on the hardware list. Just for my understanding: I thought that on my openmoko-phone even the hardware is supposed to be free and open. How can it be than, that there are hidden commands and NDA's? I read somewhere (long time ago - before the FR reached its birthday) that there might be some pieces of hardware not open such as the GSM chip. I guess exactly this is the case. Could someone experienced to NDA's, copyright laws, GPL violations and so on please explain me how exactly this is handled here? I'm sure someone from openmoko will correct me if I'm wrong, but I'll have a go. The aim is to be as open as practicable, and they are more open than anything else I know of. Companies hold copyright on their documentation, and can grant or deny the right to copy that documentation. Ideally this would be both public and redistributable, but this is often not the case. They may make it public but not redistributable, or keep it entirely private, disclosing it only under some variety of nondisclosure agreement. NDA is a very general description, and any NDA will detail what can and can't be disclosed under what conditions. It is quite possible for an NDA to allow documentation to be used in writing GPL code. I gather from discussions on the list that the NDA for the Glamo would allow Openmoko to rewrite the documentation and release the rewrite, but not the original documentation. This may seem bizarre, but it allows SMedia to keep control of their documents, and to disclaim liability for errors in anything disclosed. GSM firmware will never be fully open unless national telecoms regulators decide to relax their rules. The GSM modem is in effect a separate device with its own firmware that we talk to through a serial interface. It just happens to be on the same board. The commands that the modem has to deal with are set out in a number of GSM standards. On top of this there are commands specific to this chipset/firmware, some of which Openmoko have documentation for under an NDA. This appears to let them use the commands in GPL code and to answer specific questions, but not to release a description of the whole command set. It seems there are further commands, such as those controlling AEC, that are not mentioned in the documents Openmoko have. Openmoko are walking a tightrope here. Open is a new word to chipset manufacturers in the telecoms arena, and some understand more than others. Until they can be educated there will be compromises to be made, and decisions may not always work out as well as they initially appeared. Certain features that people expect may not be possible in an open phone right now. This applied to wifi for GTA01 as there was no sufficiently low power wifi chip with an open driver. The problems with the binary blob for the GTA01 gps have made those clearly unacceptable, but 3D acceleration without a binary blob is currently unobtainable in a mobile with 480x640 resolution. In the meantime they're heading in the right direction and researching the most open options available - see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoForesight for examples. With luck they will manage to convince manufacturers of the advantages of openness along the way. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wlan Issues after inactivity
i want to ask if there are other users having the same issues? Yes, wireless is flakey. Generally if I lose signal, then I need to reboot to reassociate. I'm experiencing the same since I've upgraded to 2008.9. I had absolutely no issues unter 2008.8 (I've upgraded through flashing since I didn't know opkg upgrade would have done the same thing). Apparently some people need to do iwconfig eth0 power off to even get an association. I'll try this one :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: keycode of aux and power?
On Thursday 11 September 2008 08:53:29 Thomas Bertani wrote: I need the keycode of aux and power but I can't find it, anybody knows them? AUX: 177 I was not able to the get the one for the Power button because it seems that it doesn't get passed up to X. At least xev was not able to recognize it. Probably because it suspends the phone. However, xev is in the opkg tree. Just try it out yourself. opkg install xev DISPLAY=:0 xev ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WLAN with WPA
Am Samstag 06 September 2008 12:24:10 schrieb Katrin Tomanek:
I can't manage to connect to a WPA-encrypted WLAN with my FR. I read all
the wiki-stuff, googled for it and checked most of the mailing list threads
-- but all this didn't help. Hope you guys can give me a hint...
So, I use the following (simple) wpa_supplicant.conf:
--- snip ---
ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant
eapol_version=1
ap_scan=1
network={
ssid=red
psk=8fa68651275b12accb0982db01cfd78cfb6f4a5d6d3b9a31735ce8aad2271be7
}
-- snap ---
Hmmm... looks good...
It works perfectly on my laptop (Ubuntu, Hardy Heron).
However, on my FR authentification doesn't work.
This is how I run the wpa_supplicant:
wpa_supplicant -i eth0 -D wext -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
I get the following output:
- snip
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-RESULTS
Trying to associate with 00:1c:4a:a3:b4:3e (SSID='red' freq=2437 MHz)
Authentication with 00:1c:4a:a3:b4:3e timed out.
CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-RESULTS
Trying to associate with 00:1c:4a:a3:b4:3e (SSID='red' freq=2437 MHz)
[repeats the last 3 lines in an endless loop]
snap ---
I also checked the debugging output of the wpa_supplicant. As I am not
familiar with wpa_supplicant its hard for me to interpret. But I saw that
my ssid got blacklisted (and after several tries got removed from the
blacklist again) -- maybe this is normal. If necessary, I might also send
the debugging output (however, as it's rather longish I skip it for the
moment).
Would be great if anybody had an idea what to do here...
It looks to me like the AP has either enabled MAC Address filtering or has
crashed (Yes, my Freerunner seems to be able to make my AP crash once in a
while) or has any other reason to not answer your neos connection requests...
On your freerunner side everything seems fine since it can see your wireless
network. Jus to make sure. Have you tried searching for it with iwlist eth0
scan ?
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Re: Openmoko Images
On Tuesday 02 September 2008 09:56:49 Kyle Bassett wrote: I was wondering what would be the best set of images to flash to the Neo1973 for a bluetooth/sound project I am working on. (I need to make sure that I can TX/RX audio to a bt headset). I guess you mean A2DP audio streaming. Otherwise you could use the Headset or the Handsfree profile. They are probably a bit easier to set up but have poor audio quality since they are developed for voice transmissions and not for Music like A2DP. There have been quite a few changes to the images lately (along with buildhost, etc), and I haven't been able to keep up with them all...but I need workable image for the prototype which has to be demonstrated on Wednesday. Theoretically it should be possible to use any of the distros. Since Wednesday isn't that far away any more I'd suggest using 2007.2 because there is a HowTo on the Wiki and for thus obviously already anyone got it working. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_Bluetooth#A2DP_quickie Probably Debian would be a good choice either since most of the software is already ported to it, but given that there are currently severe sound problems I'd say time is too short for it. Good Luck ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko Images
On Tuesday 02 September 2008 14:02:01 arne anka wrote: with the buzzing still unsolved that's at least a way to use a headset to make calls. how do i use headset/handsfree? To be honest I do not have much experience with BlueZ. This is what I know: First of all, the BlueZ wiki page about audio: http://wiki.bluez.org/wiki/Audio Probably you will find some information here: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_use_a_bluetooth_headset Some years ago I got it running on my PC using this guide (could be outdated): http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-238510-highlight-iscan.html If you combine the above information with the following you will be probably able to get your Bluetooth Headset working: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_Bluetooth Good Luck Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner is not sleeping.
On Tuesday 02 September 2008 14:53:12 Orlando wrote: 2008.8 As I read ticket that Gunnar put on... I don't have Rasterman's image... I am using the stable one... The problem is hitting also (or mainly?) the stable image. As a workaround you can install illume-config-illume as described here [1] and setup your suspend behaviour in the Power-Menu of illume-config. Also this problem is already discussed a lot in [2]. [1] http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td795652 [2] http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td795397 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: NjuBee - questions
Hi Gunnar! Answering your questions I expect you have 2008.08 installed. If not, try it out. It is still not really stable and perfect usable, but has some very very cool approaches to get there. On Tuesday 02 September 2008 15:17:39 Gunnar Stahl wrote: - Sound: How do I adjust the speaker volume? Currently it blows my ears into oblivion when it is too close to my head. No GUI yet. Try alsamixer :) - Ringtones: Although this is not really important it annoys me to have to set it to vibrator for just not to wake up everybody in the office when someone calls me. In om-2008.08's Installer there is a package called qtopia-x11-ringtome- profile. I tried installing it but it didn't show up... Perhaps you could give it a try. Else you could try settings it The-Linux-Way. Have a look at /opt/Qtopia/etc/ if using 2008.08. - Whenever I have to plug out the battery for one of the various reasons like total freezes of the fr then the clock sets to 0:40 or something Sorry... Can't help you here. - Keyboard: This thing is ridiculously unusuable. As in ridiculous. I know there are developments going on, but it would be a heck of a lot more usuable if a fragging stylus had been on board (g) (sorry). install illume-config-illume. Rasters keyboard is ridiculously cool :) - Is there any user-friendly way to turn on gprs/edge? Not yet... QTopia has some approach in it, but it didn't work for me. It seems that priority for this is not very high. Correct me if I'm wrong... - GPS: No fix at all, even with sd-card miles away from the fr GPS actually works very good here. It gets the fix faster than any other GPS device I own. Make sure you installed gpsd and set DEVICE to /dev/ttySAC1 in /etc/defaults/gps. Also make sure gpsd is running and that GPS is enabled in the graphical settings menu. Else you won't get any fix. It sounds complicated, but once everything is set up you can just enable/disable GPS via the settings menu. Have fun! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stable Distro Recommendation for Business trip
On Tuesday 02 September 2008 17:14:59 Nishit Dave wrote: By the way, this page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions says Qtopia does not have GPS. During Akademy a GSoC student presented OpenCityMap. It's a Qtopia GPS application with Open Street Map integration. It is available for download at qtopia.net but there is no Neo package yet. You will need to compile it o your own. Since it is developed on GreenPhone I'm not even sure if it runs on Neos. But if not I'm sure it won't take long until it does. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.8: Enlightenment crashing at bootup after upgrade
On Monday 01 September 2008 06:26:26 Thomas Bertani wrote: In you case when does it crash?For me it crashes when startx occcurres... but I don't know if it is the same problem... Yes, It crashes while loading X. I can see already the upper icon bar. Just before the rest of the screen (the application icons) should appear I get the fat white MessageBox saying that enlightenment has crashed. If I press retry, X will restart ending up in the same situation. If I press cancel, X will stop and I'm stuck at the terminal. I think it is the same problem. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2008.8 - latest update - FR suspends after 30 secs - unconditionally
On Monday 01 September 2008 12:51:10 Ole Kliemann wrote: Yes, seems to be the screensaver. Switch it off with `xset s off'. But it seems to disable suspend completely, no matter what you set in settings. Great. Thanks. This makes it usable at least. I have tried 2008.08-update with the testing feed int the meantime. The issue seems to be resolved there. So we may get a fix for this in the near future. And now, back to stable feeds :) (testing currently seems to have problem with gtk GUI painting) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: illume-config-illume on 2008.8-updates
On Monday 01 September 2008 18:03:43 Yorick Moko wrote: I can't see the option to use double press to launch applications (only single press is selectable/visible) Uncheck this and you will have Double-Click enabled :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: debian/apm/apmd - experimenting
i have this problem quite often. I noticed that it is sufficient to re-create the partition table using fdisk. All your data should be still on your card. However, the partition sizes have to match. Just remember the values when creating and re-use them. On Sunday 31 August 2008 12:00:39 Christian Adams wrote: i guess so .. first time it occured to me .. and hopefully never again .. regards, morlac Am 31.08.2008 um 11:52 schrieb Fox Mulder: Do you refer to the sd-card partition table corruption bug when suspending/resuming? Ciao, Rainer Christian Adams wrote: moinmoin i just did some experiments with apmd .. now i have to reinstall debian on my 8G because - some might already guess - i had no backup sofar .. darn! my luck it's weekend - so a lot time to waste greetings, morlac - doing backup of 8G when done on a daily base -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --END CONTACT BLOCK-- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2008.8 - latest update - FR suspends after 30 secs - unconditionally
Hello, On Sunday 31 August 2008 14:46:05 Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: Hello, I just flashed my FreeRunner with the latest kernel and rootfs from Om2008.8 update[1]. Images dated August 31st, to be precise. After booting, I discovered that the FR suspends after 30 secs. No problem, I'll just go into settings and turn off suspend. But it doesn't work. No matter what I set suspend to, it always suspends after 30 secs (unless I continually tap the screen). Confirmed. I'm trying to fight the same issue right now. Unfortunately I have no solution so far. I guess everybody understands how frustrating it is trying to work with a device that suspends every 30 secs. Since I don't have three hands, it is very difficult to to try to fix things via usb. I see from the support list that a couple of other people also have disovered this issue, but no solution. I tried looking at trac, but couldn't find anything. Please, any hints on how to fix this? If you are just working over ssh I have a small workaround for you. Most of the time, before the Neo suspends, the X-Screensaver comes up. If you wake the Neo up without touching the screen (screen should be left blank with backlight slightly on) it doesn't suspend any more until you touch the screen (stop the screensaver). As it happens quite often that you need to touch the screen while testing, this is not a real workaround. But it can help just doing some installs, configs or something else on the terminal without having to touch your screen every 20 seconds to prevent suspending. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
2008.8: Enlightenment crashing at bootup after upgrade
Hi all, I ran into this problem now for the second time. The first time I had installed 2008.8 with zeckes feed. After a some days opkg update opkg upgrade destroyed my enlightenment installation. At startup it crashes (SIGSEV) leaving me with a MessageBox with options for retrying or exiting. Retry doesn't help. Because of this I decided to re-flash my Neo and installed 2008.8-update (original feeds). The first 2 days everything was working fine. Today I executed an opkg update opkg upgrade and I'm stuck with the same problem. Has anyone an Idea how to restore enlightenment, so that I don't have to re- flash and start from the beginning? I have already tried to reinstall e-wm and illume via opkg -force-reinstall. Didn't fix it... Thanks in advance, Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Media player
On Saturday 30 August 2008 17:04:59 Thomas Bertani wrote: 2008/8/30 Jean-Eric Cuendet [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2) I installed QTopia one, and don't know how to tell it where is my music... it take only wav music from /media/card... not mp3 or ogg, only wav... I just copied a folder containing mp3 files to /home/root/Documents/. After restarting the xserver the files showed up in qtopias media player and I could play them. Unfortunately on om-2008.8 it is slightly too slow yet for normal use. It takes ages until the GUI responds for example for changing the volume while a mp3 is playing. On qtopia it did work nicely. Haven't tried ogg yet with it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Media player
On Saturday 30 August 2008 17:43:26 Thomas Bertani wrote: ehm... I copied in a folder (called sounds a mp3 song to /home/root/Documents/, I restarted X but the qtopia-x11 media player is empty... it doesn't show my mp3 file... how do you used it exactly? (sorry for my bad english) I cannot retry it at the moment because my Openmoko currently is a BrokenMoko (See my other thread in this list). But I'm fairly sure I did that like I sad before. Perhaps you could try a reboot to make the Media Player recognize the tracks. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Media player
I can confirm that this works. But the media players seems not to read the ID3-Tag. An it isn't usable. You can hear half a second and then you have half a second break. But it can play mp3 On my setup it played without skips as long as I didn't try to move some controls or working with any other application. But anyway, you're right. It is not ready yet for daily use. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Media player
On Saturday 30 August 2008 18:12:26 Thomas Bertani wrote: you rebooted after copying the mp3 files on the phone? Yes. It was just a guess that it could be sufficient to restart the X-Server. Rebooting the device works for sure. While looking through your processes you will find one called /opt/Qtopia/bin/mediaserver. I think this is the one that needs to be restarted. But how I already said. I cannot test it currently. and where do you copyed the mp3 files? in which folder? /home/root/Documents/Artist Name\Album Name\File Name.mp3 I'm quite sure it doesn't matter what folder structure you have. It depends just on what folders the mediaserver searches for files. Good luck. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
