Re: Battery only charger

2009-05-31 Thread Olivier Berger
Christian Rüb christian.r...@gmx.net writes:


 Hi,

 I finally found one here [1] + adapter [2] for EU power outlets for less than 
 EUR 5 (no shipping fees).
 I could completely (i.e. 100%) charge my second Freerunner battery with this 
 charger.

 Afterwards the following worked for me with SHR unstable 23/05/2009:
  * plug in USB
  * powerdown GSM
  * change battery
  * powerup GSM (needed to reenter PIN)

 Cheers,
  Christian

 [1] http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.21277
 [2] https://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.3529


FYI, I added a pointer to
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_USB_charger_specifications_and_compatibility_list
to this post.

Feel free to improve.

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Script to import contacts - Was: Re: OM2009t4: failure to suspend

2009-05-29 Thread Olivier Berger
Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org writes:

 On Thu, 28 May 2009 09:51:56 pm Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:

 Where's that script?

 http://www.mail-archive.com/supp...@lists.openmoko.org/msg04770.html


And a topic change taht wouldn't hurt, for those browsing the archives
and not noticing ;)

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Re: [android] new cupcake image

2009-05-21 Thread Olivier Berger
Russell Hay russe...@ysmail.net writes:


 2009/5/20 Russell Dwiggins undrwa...@verizon.net


 I'm wondering if it has something to do with the partitioning of the SD
 card?  The wiki confused me because it instructs one to fdisk the card with
 2 linux partitions (83), then format one with FAT and one with ext3.  I
 fdisked the fat partition with vfat (0b) and formatted with vfat, could
 that
 be the problem?


 In case you've not seen it, here's the video and the flashing instructions..
 http://www.newlc.com/en/freerunner-mobile-which-support-android-cupcake

The resulting partitioning should look like unless you wouldn't be sure :

# sudo parted -s /dev/sdc print
Model: Generic STORAGE DEVICE (scsi)
Disk /dev/sdc: 2033MB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: msdos

Number  Start  End SizeType File system  Flags
 1  3584B  128MB   128MB   primary  fat16lba  
 2  128MB  256MB   128MB   primary  ext3  
 3  256MB  2033MB  1777MB  primary  fat16lba  

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Re: GSM Firmware upgrade

2009-05-17 Thread Olivier Berger
Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi writes:

 On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Olivier Berger ober...@ouvaton.org wrote:
 Thanks for your efforts, but my understanding of a user-friendly
 procedure would be a max. 7 steps with 50 lines long description or
 something like that, which could be understood (at least to grasp if
 it's needed and the general idea of the required technical level needed)
 in 2 minutes reading time...
 and currently, the instructions fail to comply with such standards :(
 Understanding the Introduction itself takes at least more than 5 minutes
 to really figure out what/when/why... IMHO.

 Of course your mileage may vary, and the proportion of hackers here is
 probably above average ;-)

 Try again: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing
 And if not happy, feel free to make it clearer, after all, it's a wiki...


It's much better now (I had added my small bits also before your edits).

Thanks alot.

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Re: GSM Firmware upgrade

2009-05-16 Thread Olivier Berger
arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de writes:

 but it doesnt say which version of firmware
 needs upgrading, or any way to check your
 current firmware version, neither on the
 Flashing page;

 the flashing issue has been discussed so much the last few weeks that i  
 honestly do not understand, how you can come up with the questions again.
 the archives ar full with multiple times the answers.

Well... and apparently nobody cared enough at OpenMoko Inc to issue a
statement with proper instructions for regular users ? ... nor updating
the wiki pages to make it user-friendly either :-/

Not everyone has time to read avery threads I suppose...

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Re: FSY ? - was: Re: [FSY] Stuck in desktop switcher

2009-05-11 Thread Olivier Berger
Alfie al...@h4c.kr writes:

 Sorry... having one of those days. Yes FYP :)


As I understand it, FYP is an alias for Neovento, then... so maybe someone
should mention that in http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions ?

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Re: hackable:1 - new release

2009-05-06 Thread Olivier Berger
Marcus Bauer mba...@bearstech.com writes:

 Hello Openmoko Community,

 a new release of hackable:1 is available! 

Then, I'd very much suggest to update
http://www.hackable1.org/wiki/Downloads which still points to rev3
AFAICT.

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Mer on OpenMoko devices ?

2009-05-01 Thread Olivier Berger
Hi.

Anyone know if http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer (or bits of it) could run on
OpenMoko devices ?

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[Off topic] Samsung platine : strangely similar design

2009-05-01 Thread Olivier Berger
Hi.

FYI, un air de déjà vu :
http://www.thedigitalnewsroom.com/en/News/2105/Samsung_Platine_the_new_innovating_DJ_music_phone.htm

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Re: latest and greatest, progress mail 6

2009-04-12 Thread Olivier Berger
Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be writes:

 Just in time for the holidays ...

 (install instructions and script updated on 2090410: see below)


Maybe you should add more bits of context to these emails, like
explaining what you document here ? ... Are these instructions to
install one particular piece of a distro that would be latest and
greatest ? Doesn't sount so much clear for most people I suppose.

Thanks in advance.

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Time for press release published on w.om.c ?

2009-04-10 Thread Olivier Berger
Hi.

I think www.openmoko.com deserves some updates maybe ?

http://www.openmoko.com/press.html in particular... allright, slashdot
is an authorized information source, but...

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Re: Car Charger?

2009-01-04 Thread Olivier Berger
Gothnet openm...@nastylittlehorse.net writes:


 Has anyone found a car charger that would work to supply power to the FR
 running as a navigation aid?


Hi.

I suppose that you might find interesting hints (or improve it when
you've found what you need) in :
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_charger

I myself used this model :
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_charger#sold_as_.22Essentiel_b_.28Boulanger.29.22_Chargeur_allume-cigares.2FUSB
but I assume you won't find the same in an australian store :(

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Re: IO errors when booting from SDHC 4gb Sandisk card

2009-01-01 Thread Olivier Berger
Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm writes:

 interesting. i thought it was fixed in recent u-boots.


 If so, it is fixed in 2.6.28 kernel. I have similar trouble with
 Kingston 4GB SDHC, and with 2.6.24 i can't get access to SD card (only
 sometimes, very rarely) even with messing with sd_max_clk parameter.
 With 2.6.28, without specifying sd_max_clk it gets access, but only
 for some (2-3) minutes. With lower sd_max_clk and 2.6.28 it works. But
 it's still annoying - I have resume problems (and not only) with
 2.6.28, so i'm using 2.6.24. I will later put some info from dmesg and
 after messing with voltage on kernel maillist.

 Which 2.6.28 image are you using?  I downloaded one from people/andy,
 but it still doesn't boot for me.


Maybe you guys would like to improve :
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Supported_microSD_cards too ?

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Re: External battery charger

2009-01-01 Thread Olivier Berger
Jan Henkins j...@henkins.za.net writes:

 Hello all,

 Hope somebody can help:

 I perpetrated the cardinal sin to let my FR battery run completely 
 empty, so now I cannot boot up to charge the battery.

FAQ ? :

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Battery

Please people, try and improve the wiki, and use it as a reference
when responding to such queries, and make the wiki content even better
in 2009 ! ;)

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Re: gsm0710muxd and OM 2008.12

2008-12-28 Thread Olivier Berger
Eldon Koyle eko...@gmail.com writes:

 I just spent a while tracking down an issue with 2008.12 and
 gsm0710muxd. I upgraded an FDOM image, so I'm not sure if anyone else
 will see this problem, but just in case I thought I'd send this to the
 list.

 2008.12 was starting xserver-nodm before gsm0710muxd, so the dbus call
 added in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia started a separate gsm0710muxd
 process without any args before gsm0710muxd was started by init which
 caused gsm0710muxd to fail to work.

 A quick fix is to change xserver-nodm from S04 to S23 (gsm0710muxd is
 22) or so in /etc/rc5.d .


Well... and would you mind to share with us the problem you're trying
to solve ? It's far from obvious what this gsm0710muxd may be doing,
and how it's missing ;)

Btw, did you file a ticket in the bug tracker ?

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Re: [Om2008.9] PIN PUK

2008-10-31 Thread Olivier Berger
Pander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Here is the rest of the PIN, PUK and IMEI use cases:
  http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/6567.html


Added to the wiki at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/PIN (created for
the occasion), waiting for more input from others.

HtH.

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Re: new version of the openmoko-panel-plugin 0.3

2008-09-21 Thread Olivier Berger
Sebastian Ohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi everyone,

 here is a new version of the panel plugin. 


Care to be more explicit on what this can be ? ... either you're
addressing the community at large and most probably want to provide a
more detailed description of what the program is... or it's not on the
right list, then ;)

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Re: WiFi doesn't work

2008-09-11 Thread Olivier Berger
Christian Weßel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Am Donnerstag, den 11.09.2008, 15:51 +0200 schrieb Xavier Bestel:
 Ok, I'll try that. Or maybe some rmmod+modprobe first.
 

 Please report your results.

Preferably on the support list ;-)

Please, people, help triage message to appropriate lists.

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Re: opkg update failed

2008-09-06 Thread Olivier Berger
arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 no name resolution. check your /etc/resolv.conf and the mailinglists.

 btw: please
 - provide _useful_ information that makes it possible to help you
 - mark in your subject what device and distribution you are using
 - use the right list -- this is a _support_ issue
 - check the archives. this particular problem has been discussed to death.


You may also wish to have a look at the wiki :
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Download

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Re: Om2008.08: shy illume's keyboard

2008-09-04 Thread Olivier Berger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I had installed the 08/30 image. Today I have updated from repositories
 the phone (community and zecke's repo). Later, I added amgstrong
 repository and installed pidgin.

 What I find now is that the illume keyboard doesn't show. I can only see
 the dictionary button. I can't write with it.

 What is worst. I have tried to reinstall illume-config-illume, but the
 package is missing, I don't know where it is reubicated.

 Now, the only option I have is to reenable qtopia keyboard :(

 Any help?

See current thread in support list about broken bits of
illume/enlightenment in ASU stable updates. 

Btw, why post to community what is
relevant to support ?

http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/support/2008-September/002532.html

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Post problems/bugs related questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED], please

2008-09-04 Thread Olivier Berger
Hi.

There is a lot of duplication between the support and community lists
for simple questions relating to bugs with recent upgrades, or the
likes.

Please, care to subscribe and (read first, then) post to the most
appropriate list when you'd like to get some help on fixing bugs,
misbehaviours and the likes.

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RSS feed for changelog of stable in git - Was: Re: which updates for Om 2008.8 ? - Was: Re: Repository and Images

2008-09-03 Thread Olivier Berger
Olivier Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Julian Chu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 12:06:07AM +0200, Olivier Berger wrote:
 
  Is there a changelog of bugs fixed somewhere ?
 
 

is the git log helps you?
http://git.openmoko.org/?p=openmoko.git;a=log;h=org.openmoko.asu.stable


 Great.

 Would it be possible to have GITweb upgraded / patched
 (http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au/archives/git/0511/11378.html maybe) so
 that RSS feeds can be output for heads ?

 Something like
 http://git.openmoko.org/?p=openmoko.git;a=rss;h=org.openmoko.asu.stable
 would definitely rock... but at the moment it only gives the same
 thing as http://git.openmoko.org/?p=openmoko.git;a=rss :(


I've hacked something quickly (using http://bent.latency.net/git2rss
as a base) to produce such an RSS feed :
http://www.olivierberger.com/openmoko-200808-stable.xml

Btw, looks like some systematic bug # in the changelog of commits made
to git would reassure us on the contents of the stable updates ;)

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Re: Copying image to internal flash

2008-09-01 Thread Olivier Berger
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 William Kenworthy wrote:
 I am trying out 2008.9 and am impressed that its almost usable.  Before
 I put too much effort into configuring the image I have on the SD card,
 is it possible to move an SD card image to the phone itself?

 I'm interested in this too, but I'd like to know if there's a way to 
 mount the rootfs partition when you're running a distro from the SD 
 card. I can do only the contrary!


See
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Moving_current_system_from_flash_to_SD
for some useful reference.

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Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- now official

2008-09-01 Thread Olivier Berger
Joachim Breitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Dear OpenMoko community,

 the FSO packaging team of the Debian project[1] is happy to announce
 that we have started to provide installation procedures and packages
 required to have your FreeRunner[2] run Debian-powered.


Is there a link with the emdebian project ?

It is not clear to me what's the real difference between emdebian and
what you have done, as I know very few about emdebian after all.

Just to get some clarification... but very good job, thank you.

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Re: [Bug Filing Policy] please read before crate ticket

2008-08-31 Thread Olivier Berger
Fredrik Wendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 fre 2008-08-29 klockan 18:36 +0800 skrev regina:

 Please Read this first  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Bug_Filing_Policy

 I'm sorry to say that the Trac is in a mess (I understand that you think
 it is, I partly do to) but there's been a constant lack of clear
 information on where and how to file bugs/issues.

 I'm also sorry to ask why this information still isn't on
 https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/newticket - isn't that where it should've
 be in the very first place?

 (Don't expect the community to understand what you can't sort out
 yourself (put information in the right place))


+1

And : https://admin-trac.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1535 filed

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Re: Network over USB flaky ? - Re: Booting OM 2008.08 from SD - Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

2008-08-31 Thread Olivier Berger
Hi.

Just for reference, I filed a ticket about this issue : 
http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1933

Olivier Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Somebody in the thread at some point said:

 | Anyway, it seems it's rather unstable in the first times the system is
 | brought up, and stabilizes after a while.
 | If I unplug the USB cable when I lose IP connectivity, and replug
 | after 1/2 seconds, then it becomes more stable. Well maybe the fact
 | that I'm running a ping 192.168.0.202 continously helps also at that
 | stage : it may help maintain connectivity somehow ?


 Just to confirm that I experienced a similar behaviour with 2008.8
 running from flash too :(

 Maybe I'll be able to provide more diagnostics once I'm more confident
 with the networking setup in 2008.8.


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Resolvconf fix - Was: Re: HAL update, OM2008.8

2008-08-31 Thread Olivier Berger
FYI, I think there's a missing bit in procedure bellow :

Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nishit Dave wrote:
 Hi,

 The current upgrade of hal from 0.5.9-r6 to 0.5.11-r0 today through
 the official repository led to the following exit message (relating to
 haldaemon):
 Cannot create link over existing -/etc/resolv.conf-.
 which would be the case because of the earlier resolvconf problem
 being solved manually by creating a real /etc/resolv.conf file.  Now,
 should that file be replaced again with a link, and how?



 Move resolv.conf to /var/run/resolv.conf and then link /etc/resolv.conf
 to it.
 maybe.

 Found an update on the wiki:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.8#Known_Issues

 NOTE: Solusion: Steps to add missing scripts:

 touch /etc/resolvconf/run/enable-updates
 cd /etc ; rm resolv.conf ; ln -s /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf .
 mkdir /lib/resolvconf/ ; cd /lib/resolvconf/
 wget http://kopparv34.mine.nu/list-records

Also do that at that time : 
chmod +x list-records

 Edit /etc/network/interfaces and remove the lines:
 network 192.168.0.0
 gateway 192.168.0.200
 If we need to use the usb network more then just locally from the computer
 in the other end of the USB-cable, login with ssh and add a default route
 like this:
 route add default gateway 192.168.0.200


 I haven't tried it so far.

I have updated the wiki with this chmod bit.

Dunno either if this solves anything, but it helps issueing
resolvconf -u ;)

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Archives of previous working stable 2008.8 distribution packages/images ?

2008-08-31 Thread Olivier Berger
Hi.

It seems to me that recent merge from testing to stable has broken
quite some things (hal, suspend, etc.) as I read the reports here.

Is there a way to revert a specific set of packages for those who
would have upgraded and would go back to previous stable version ?

Debian used to have snapshots.debian.net which would store all
packages released as they get updated and may disappear from the
distribution mirrors.

Is there some way to do that for the opkg stable feeds ?

On a side note, are the daily stable images saved also ?

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Re: Is 2008.9 usable?

2008-08-30 Thread Olivier Berger
William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Is this correct:

 Will 2008.9 make phone calls (2008.8 never connected once over the few
 days I tried it)


What's your definition of 2008.8 : upgraded with the stable upgrade
feeds ?

Also, can you point at a corresponding bug number for the connection
problem... I'm sure that would help the support team.

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Re: which updates for Om 2008.8 ? - Was: Re: Repository and Images

2008-08-28 Thread Olivier Berger
Julian Chu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 12:06:07AM +0200, Olivier Berger wrote:
 
  Is there a changelog of bugs fixed somewhere ?
 
 

is the git log helps you?
http://git.openmoko.org/?p=openmoko.git;a=log;h=org.openmoko.asu.stable


Great.

Would it be possible to have GITweb upgraded / patched
(http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au/archives/git/0511/11378.html maybe) so
that RSS feeds can be output for heads ?

Something like
http://git.openmoko.org/?p=openmoko.git;a=rss;h=org.openmoko.asu.stable
would definitely rock... but at the moment it only gives the same
thing as http://git.openmoko.org/?p=openmoko.git;a=rss :(

Many thanks in advance.

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Re: (stable) Update report

2008-08-27 Thread Olivier Berger
Minh Ha Duong [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Yeah, and keyboard useability, at last ! ;)

 I am still struggling with this one. Could you please be more explicit here ?


Well... it looks like I have a keyboard which suits me... but I'm in
no way capable of naming it without pictures to refer to :(

There are buttons that allow me to switch the keyboard layouts
displayed, and that's great. ... Maybe we don't see the same things
though (note that I upgraded from a slightly modified 2008/08/08
version which may be different from your stable 2008/08/26 one).

Without pictures to confront our experiences, I really think it's a
deadend.

See my recent message in support list to try and improve that
situation.

Hope this helps anyway.

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Re: Toggling keyboard layouts in 2008.8 update

2008-08-27 Thread Olivier Berger
Alex Fitzpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I feel like an idiot... oh well...

 I was poking around looking for information on modifying keyboard 
 layouts and bumpted into this:

 http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia4.3/inputmethods-description.html

 Which suggested to me that I had not tried all the possibilities with 
 the qtopia keyboard that I have grown to loath so quickly.

 What I did discover was I an switch between pages of layouts by 
 stroking quickly up or down... like the backspace gesture only 
 vertically... and hey-presto... I have more characters... except enter?


FYI, this has been documented for quite some time in
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.8_Keyboard#Keyboard_guide :
Sliding your finger up/down changes between
lowercase/uppercase/numbers/special characters. 

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Re: 2008.8 update

2008-08-26 Thread Olivier Berger
Xavier Bestel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi,

 there's an updated image of 2008.8 from yesterday, I still haven't
 flashed it - does someone know if it's worth it, what's new inside ?


You mean : http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8-update/ as
http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8/ doesn't seem to have
changed, if trusting the timestamps ?

Dunno... maybe you can diff the contents of the roofs tarballs and
tell us ? ;)

It's been long since the release, without any official updates... so
maybe time has come... maybe it's the announced 2008.9 ? 

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Re: which updates for Om 2008.8 ? - Was: Re: Repository and Images

2008-08-26 Thread Olivier Berger
Julian Chu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi Community,

As I mentioned in the previous mail[1] , we did some works.

[1]:http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-August/026491.html

Thanks for this update.


*) A new 2008.8 stable image

   Holger did some changes in ASU-stable branch. We built it and put on
   downloads.openmoko.org.[2]

   [2]http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8-update/

   Oh, it's daily build.

*) The repository of 2008.8
   After the building process complete, we also sync the repository[3]
   People can upgrade from there.

   [3] http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/

I think I don't understand very well the situation... and need some
clarification concerning updates from the initial 2008.8 image :

Is this [3] repository supposed to bring updates over the first 2008.8
stable image ? (It seems it was already there in my opkg config having
used this feed already over the 2008.8 install ..., and nothing seems
updated so far when doing opkg update; opkg -test upgrade)

From your description, it looks like the [2] and [3] are in sync
... so I wonder what the difference would be between the the initial
2008.8 and this new one [2]...

I'm puzzled... How is one supposed to upgrade from the initial 2008.8
? re-flash the daily built stable ?

Is there a changelog of bugs fixed somewhere ?

Thanks in advance if you can clarify these points.

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Re: which updates for Om 2008.8 ? - Was: Re: Repository and Images

2008-08-26 Thread Olivier Berger
Olivier Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Julian Chu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi Community,

As I mentioned in the previous mail[1] , we did some works.

[1]:http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-August/026491.html

 Thanks for this update.


*) A new 2008.8 stable image

   Holger did some changes in ASU-stable branch. We built it and put on
   downloads.openmoko.org.[2]

   [2]http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8-update/

   Oh, it's daily build.

 so I wonder what the difference would be between the the initial
 2008.8 and this new one [2]...

 I'm puzzled... How is one supposed to upgrade from the initial 2008.8
 ? re-flash the daily built stable ?

 Is there a changelog of bugs fixed somewhere ?


Responding to myself (in part) concerning the changelog between the two
image releases.

I did a diff against the opkg /usr/lib/opkg/status files in each image
and compared the packages reported with different versions.

Here's the list of packages which changed versions between
Om2008.8-gta02-20080808.rootfs.tar.gz and
20080826-asu-stable-rootfs.tar.gz just downloaded (versions excluded
from that list as my diff wasn't easily tweaked to show both packages
and versions) :

  angstrom-version
  e-wm
  exquisite
  exquisite-themes
  hal
  illume
  illume-theme
  kernel
  kernel-2.6.24
  kernel-image-2.6.24
  kernel-module-aes-generic
  kernel-module-af-key
  kernel-module-ah4
  kernel-module-ah6
  kernel-module-aircable
  kernel-module-airprime
  kernel-module-anubis
  kernel-module-arc4
  kernel-module-ark3116
  kernel-module-as-iosched
  kernel-module-asix
  kernel-module-autofs4
  kernel-module-belkin-sa
  kernel-module-berry-charge
  kernel-module-blowfish
  kernel-module-bsd-comp
  kernel-module-camellia
  kernel-module-cast5
  kernel-module-cast6
  kernel-module-catc
  kernel-module-cdc-acm
  kernel-module-cdc-ether
  kernel-module-cdc-subset
  kernel-module-cdrom
  kernel-module-cfq-iosched
  kernel-module-cls-basic
  kernel-module-cls-fw
  kernel-module-cls-route
  kernel-module-cls-rsvp
  kernel-module-cls-rsvp6
  kernel-module-cls-tcindex
  kernel-module-cls-u32
  kernel-module-cn
  kernel-module-configfs
  kernel-module-cp2101
  kernel-module-crc-ccitt
  kernel-module-crc16
  kernel-module-crc32c
  kernel-module-crypto-null
  kernel-module-cs89x0
  kernel-module-cyberjack
  kernel-module-cypress-m8
  kernel-module-deflate
  kernel-module-digi-acceleport
  kernel-module-dm-crypt
  kernel-module-dm-mod
  kernel-module-dm-snapshot
  kernel-module-dm9601
  kernel-module-ebt-802-3
  kernel-module-ebt-among
  kernel-module-ebt-arp
  kernel-module-ebt-arpreply
  kernel-module-ebt-dnat
  kernel-module-ebt-ip
  kernel-module-ebt-limit
  kernel-module-ebt-log
  kernel-module-ebt-mark
  kernel-module-ebt-mark-m
  kernel-module-ebt-pkttype
  kernel-module-ebt-redirect
  kernel-module-ebt-snat
  kernel-module-ebt-stp
  kernel-module-ebt-ulog
  kernel-module-ebt-vlan
  kernel-module-ebtable-broute
  kernel-module-ebtable-filter
  kernel-module-ebtable-nat
  kernel-module-ebtables
  kernel-module-ecb
  kernel-module-empeg
  kernel-module-esp4
  kernel-module-esp6
  kernel-module-fcrypt
  kernel-module-firmware-class
  kernel-module-ftdi-sio
  kernel-module-funsoft
  kernel-module-fuse
  kernel-module-garmin-gps
  kernel-module-gf128mul
  kernel-module-gl620a
  kernel-module-gpio-keys
  kernel-module-hp4x
  kernel-module-io-edgeport
  kernel-module-io-ti
  kernel-module-iowarrior
  kernel-module-ip-gre
  kernel-module-ip-tables
  kernel-module-ip6-tables
  kernel-module-ip6-tunnel
  kernel-module-ip6t-ah
  kernel-module-ip6t-eui64
  kernel-module-ip6t-frag
  kernel-module-ip6t-hbh
  kernel-module-ip6t-hl
  kernel-module-ip6t-ipv6header
  kernel-module-ip6t-log
  kernel-module-ip6t-mh
  kernel-module-ip6t-owner
  kernel-module-ip6t-reject
  kernel-module-ip6t-rt
  kernel-module-ip6table-filter
  kernel-module-ip6table-mangle
  kernel-module-ipaq
  kernel-module-ipcomp
  kernel-module-ipcomp6
  kernel-module-ipip
  kernel-module-ipt-addrtype
  kernel-module-ipt-ah
  kernel-module-ipt-clusterip
  kernel-module-ipt-ecn
  kernel-module-ipt-iprange
  kernel-module-ipt-log
  kernel-module-ipt-masquerade
  kernel-module-ipt-netmap
  kernel-module-ipt-owner
  kernel-module-ipt-redirect
  kernel-module-ipt-reject
  kernel-module-ipt-same
  kernel-module-ipt-tos
  kernel-module-ipt-ttl
  kernel-module-ipt-ulog
  kernel-module-iptable-filter
  kernel-module-iptable-mangle
  kernel-module-iptable-nat
  kernel-module-ipv6
  kernel-module-ipw
  kernel-module-ir-usb
- kernel-module-isofs
  kernel-module-kaweth
  kernel-module-keyspan
  kernel-module-keyspan-pda
  kernel-module-khazad
  kernel-module-kl5kusb105
  kernel-module-kobil-sct
  kernel-module-leds-s3c24xx
  kernel-module-libcrc32c
  kernel-module-loop
  kernel-module-lrw
  kernel-module-mcs7830
  kernel-module-mct-u232
  kernel-module-md4
  kernel-module-michael-mic
  kernel-module-mos7720
  kernel-module-mos7840

Re: Official update feeds testing on downloads.openmoko.org

2008-08-21 Thread Olivier Berger
Kevin Zuber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi,

 I've just noticed on a new testing repository on
 downloads.openmoko.org [1]. Are that the official update feeds for ASU
 or another distribution? Is the merge of the two branches finished?
 Should I use this repo instead of the zecke repo now?

 Thanks for answers.

 Kev

 [1] http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/


I just had a look at contents of
http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/om-gta02/distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0.01_om-gta02.ipk
which may be the package providing the opkg feeds config for that very
feed if things were consistent...

But the feeds definition there refer to
http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/ ... so I'm not so sure it's
an operational testing upgrade feed for 2008.8/ASU.

But I may be wrong.

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Re: Temporary testing and development feeds for ASU

2008-08-16 Thread Olivier Berger
Holger Freyther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hey,

 as we need some more time to make the build result of org.openmoko.asu.dev 
 and 
 org.openmoko.asu.stable available I have an ad-hoc and temporary solution by 
 providing my build result. So this is from the official branch but my no 
 means an official feed and will go away once the right thing is available on 
 downloads.

 development/unstable trees:
   http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-dev/all
   http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-dev/armv4t
   http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-dev/i686
   http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-dev/neo1973
   http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-dev/om-gta02

 testing feeds:
   http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-testing/all
   http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-testing/armv4t
   http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-testing/i686
   http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-testing/neo1973
   http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-testing/om-gta02


 z.

 PS: I hope this makes things better and not worse. :)


Added to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Repositories#OM_2008.8_.2F_ASU_by_zecke

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Re: which updates for Om 2008.8 ?

2008-08-14 Thread Olivier Berger
Julian Chu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi,
 I am the leader of building stuff.

 We did a release in 2008.8 then provide a stable feed.
 Buidhost is a building machine that build many things with
 AUTOREV. That means everything comes from buildhost is *Unstable*

 We provide buildhost for the reason that we hopes we can provide
 latest packages for someone who like fresh.

 Right now it confused many people, we know that and are going to
 shut down the http interface.

 Many people concern about 2008.8 repository. Let me explain what we
 are going to do.

SNIP

Thanks for this official announcement.

I've added a link to it in
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.8#Updates

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Re: What could be done to improve the OM development process?

2008-08-13 Thread Olivier Berger
Holger Freyther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Wednesday 13 August 2008 00:05:14 Jeffery Davis wrote:

 2. Better communication between the development community and the end
 user community.  I have yet to see anyone say they're pleased
 as punch with the keyboard.  When almost everyone is unhappy, closing
 bugs as 'working as intended' is pigheaded.

 Hey,

 as this action is misunderstood a couple of small words. What is the 
 bugtracker for? The way we have used docs.openmoko.org so far is to make it 
 an engineering tool. The assigned/owned tickets tells/informs engineers what 
 to work on, when to get it done (milestone) and how important that is.


Whereas us users have been assuming that it was an open bugtracker for
en-users...

Maybe there would be a need for some other Bug-tracking tool, which
would clearly support the separation between support-oriented
bugtracker (external) and engineering-oriented one (internal maybe) ?

I don't think trac's is powerful enough to play both roles without
much frustration from either side (but I may be wrong).

In any case, a policy should be drafted and announced widely. And
mailing-lists for users vs bugtracker for engineering is not
satisfactory for any open project, of course.

Also, maybe you would need to rely on an organisational tool like a
todo manager to assign work to people, whereas bugtrackers may only be
there as a repository of knowledge and a communication tool ?

My 2 cents.

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Re: Ahah: and you released anyway ? - Re: [ Software Testing Report : 2008.08.07 ]

2008-08-13 Thread Olivier Berger
Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 This type of comments are the type of comment that I hate most of all.

 Please let the people to work in peace, and if you want to make an
 appoint, please make in a constructive way.

 We all was knowing that OM 2008.8 was in very early development, and no
 one force you to use it.

 People like you bring firms to have a close development process.


Please re-read
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-August/025619.html !

I'd have expected a release announcement saying that it was not ready,
because (as QA report exhibited) there were major problems, but that,
still, people who would like to help could test-drive it.

It was all like : it's much better than 2007.2, which it wasn't for
serious reasons.

Hence my disappointment (which turned into anger, with the bugtracker
usage misunderstandings).

Again, this was a big frustration for all those who believed in what
was announced in the release message.

But I think I have made enough rant.


Be sure that this won't stop me from trying to be as constructive as I
can in other technical areas.

Lookin' forward for next batch of updates, and let's see if QA work is
more seriously taken into consideration before releasing, then.

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Re: Ahah: and you released anyway ? - Re: [ Software Testing Report : 2008.08.07 ]

2008-08-13 Thread Olivier Berger
Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Be sure that this won't stop me from trying to be as constructive as I
 can in other technical areas.

 I apologize if I said you was not constructive, but according me is very
 important to let them to understand we want to be with them, and not
 against them, like a lot of email I read in these days.


Fights, flamewars and other disputes are part of a live community, so
I hope I won't have discouraged them too much by being harsh at
welcoming them to the wonderfull world of angry customer both
contributor mixed environment.

Best luck Openmoko employees for next releases.

/me goes back to fighting other bugs (not Openmoko related).
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Re: which updates for Om 2008.8 ?

2008-08-13 Thread Olivier Berger
Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 if not, is there a recommended update feed for Om 2008.8 ?

 http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/

 There is *no* other feed location for Om2008.08 at the moment, and 
 Openmoko are *not* doing public daily builds of Om2008.08 ...

 -- Rod (not associated with Openmoko, but with strong opinions on feeds)


May I suggest to add that into :
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.8#Updates if you feel confident
on your opinions ?

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2008.9 - Was Re: Third request: what *is* the warranty on the Freerunner?

2008-08-12 Thread Olivier Berger
steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Then try 2008.9 when it comes 


First time I happen to meet an announcement for the next release, it
seems.

Please issue it when it's READY and not on 2008.9.9 at 09:09:09 just for the fun
of it.

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Ahah: and you released anyway ? - Re: [ Software Testing Report : 2008.08.07 ]

2008-08-12 Thread Olivier Berger
Wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Dear community,

 here is the QA report which has been created before Om 2008.8 was released. 
 We 
 simply forgot to send this report to a public list because we were too busy 
 with the release preparations. Sorry.


SNIP

 Due to all these critical major bugs, from our testing team point of view:
 Not stable enough to release our Om 2008.8.

The subject says it all.

No need for more comments, I guess.

Maybe I should have quoted the release announcement email too !

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Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08? - SOLVED ?

2008-08-11 Thread Olivier Berger
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:10:20 +0200 Olivier Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 DooD [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Hmm figured out why my above fix was only working on my asu build and not 
  my
  om2008.8 need to install 
 
  http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/armv4t/illume_0.0+svnr196-r12_armv4t.ipk
 
  this version seems to let me use whatever keyboard i like, which is how it
  should be. hope it doesnt magically disappear . .
 
 
 Would you care to elaborate on let me use whatever keyboard i like ?
 
 Maybe you may add a howto into
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ASU_Keyboard_Toggle ?
 
 Many thanks in advance.

 illume's code can use it's internal keyboard, do nothing at all (and just wait
 until some external keyboard  is run - like qpe does) or run a keyboard 
 process
 for you. it even will queue multiple keyboards if more than 1 was launched -
 but it works with a first-come-first-served policy there. the gui config is
 simple (chose none, internal default or some of N others). the gui will list
 any .desktop files it found that have Keyboard in the categories list for
 the .desktop.

Thanks alot for these details.

And glad some nice soul added details to :

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8_Keyboard#Using_the_Full_Qwerty_keyboard

I call it an issue solved by the community while the support staff was
on weekend break ;-)

 but of course this config dialog isn't really meant to be
 supported. not in ASU/2008.8 so it's more of a if you somehow find it and get
 it up - use at your own risk.

 :)

You mean OM 2008.8 *is* supported ? ;-) ... sorry, couldn't help it.

Well, more seriously : as it fixes a major usability defect of OM 2008.8, I'd 
expect it
to be supported !

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Re: Moving my 2007.2 to SD to try 2008.8 with fallback solution

2008-08-11 Thread Olivier Berger
Clemens Kirchgatterer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Olivier Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks for your indications, but my goal is not to install a *new*
 system on the SD, but to *transfer* the current one to the SD.
 
 I guess it may be done from the FR itself... but I'm afraid it's
 difficult to move things from the very live system you're running.

 cp -a /bin /dev /sbin ... /media/sdcard usually works for me on the
 desktop. remember to leave out /proc /sys a.s.o. though.

 hope this helps ...

No problem here, as in the procedure I documented on the wiki, you're
copying a not-live system, as you copy from flash when running from
SD, so /proc and /sys are unmounted.

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Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08?

2008-08-10 Thread Olivier Berger
Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Olivier Berger wrote:

 And having :
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ASU_Keyboard_Toggle#Reactivating_the_keyboard_toggle_under_ASU
 up-to-date would help, I guess.
 
 ... if this is what it's about... I'm not sure : ASU
 vs. 2008.8... Anyway, might help ?

   You're correct the wiki is out-of-date, you can now simply opkg 
 install illume-config to give you the keyboard button (and the illume 
 configuration button), I've updated the wiki to reflect this.


Thanks alot. Updated ticket https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1654 then.

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Re: Moving my 2007.2 to SD to try 2008.8 with fallback solution

2008-08-10 Thread Olivier Berger
yochaigal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The key is to follow the wikis--- but make sure
 you format and fill the sd card from a linux box, not from the phone.   do
 everything as root.  also, make sure to update your u-boot so that it can
 handle fat and ext file systems.  finally, be very careful in uploading the
 root filesystem -- -make sure you mount a .jffs2 (follow the wiki) on your
 linux box and then FROM that you should create a tarball --- -which you THEN
 and only THEN move over to the rootfs partition of the sd card.  Otherwise
 some important dev nodes get lost in the process.


 wiki I used to start:

 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD


Thanks for your indications, but my goal is not to install a *new*
system on the SD, but to *transfer* the current one to the SD.

I guess it may be done from the FR itself... but I'm afraid it's
difficult to move things from the very live system you're running.

To do that on a desktop system, I would boot to single user
first... but what about on a FR ?

 
 Would you recommend a good procedure for moving my 2007.2 system to SD
 ? And would it run fine from SD too, once moved ?
 

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Re: Car charger to GTA02

2008-08-10 Thread Olivier Berger
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 steve wrote:
 Magic 47 ohm resistor will get you 1A. its on the wiki somewhere. 
 Thanks... Should be that on the ID pin?

 We need a better search on the wiki
 Maybe also a small article with photos (as example) of a reworked 
 charger (I figure that some opnemoko developers have already done that :P).


Guys, I guess http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_charger may be the
right place to add contents to.

Btw, I've described a car charger of mine there.

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Re: Moving my 2007.2 to SD to try 2008.8 with fallback solution

2008-08-10 Thread Olivier Berger
arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I guess it may be done from the FR itself... but I'm afraid it's
 difficult to move things from the very live system you're running.

 i'd think the only thing to care about would be /var/.
 just as idea: rsync the whole of the fr to the sd card and diff after a  
 while to see which parts changed. examine these files and see if you need  
 to set something to default values.


Thanks for the tips.

I thought of another way to proceed in between, and started to
document it here :
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Moving_current_system_from_flash_to_SD

Basically, you boot into a system on SD, and then, from there, you
mount the root partition in flash and copy its contents to a backup
dir on the SD. Hopefully, the SD is big enough to hold two systems.

I've tested it and I have my backup of OM 2007.2 on SD.

Now I need to test if I can boot it on the SD. If it succeeds, I will
then be able to flash OM 2008.8, and have switched between flash and
SD.

Dual booting is cool ;)

Will try and report on success/problems.

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Re: Network over USB flaky ? - Re: Booting OM 2008.08 from SD - Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

2008-08-10 Thread Olivier Berger
Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 I guess it's pretty flaky :( But still I see some (slow) progress ;)


 It really could be related to the USB ports on your PC .. if for some  
 reason your PC is not happy with the power-state changes demanded by  
 the Freerunner, then it will reset the USB hard layer, and this has  
 the effect that your internal USB GUID changes, confusing the usb- 
 ethernet driver, and thus giving you inconsistent services.  If its at  
 all possible, try running some sort of USB diagnostic app on your PC  
 while this is all going on or check your log files for USB-related  
 messages in the meantime ..


I don't believe so, as I've not had these issues with 2007.7, but it
would be running from flash, whereas I have the problems with 2008.8
running from SD... maybe that's why ?

Thanks anyway.

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Re: Network over USB flaky ? - Re: Booting OM 2008.08 from SD - Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

2008-08-10 Thread Olivier Berger
Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Somebody in the thread at some point said:

 | I kept trying, rebooted, tested, again, again, unplugged USB,
 | replugged... and TADA, at some point it magically worked !
 |
 | I've typed-in a few commands, got networking (opkg update completed),
 | did a few more things... and ... it's now gone :(
 |
 | # ping 192.168.0.202
 | PING 192.168.0.202 (192.168.0.202) 56(84) bytes of data.
 | From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable
 | From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable
 | From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable
 |
 | no kernel message on desktop side : usb not unplugged...
 |
 | I guess it's pretty flaky :( But still I see some (slow) progress ;)
 |
 | I guess screen will be my friend.

 I would first guess this is simply the ifconfig to set Freerunner-side
 IP getting messed with.  I really did not see flakiness of Ethernet over
 USB and I understood there is new scheme for managing IP allocation in
 this new rootfs.  If anyone with a debug board sees this behaviour, just
 logging in on the debug serial console and doing ifconfig usb0 / route
 -n would clear it up if it is that.


Thanks for the feedback.

Notice that I'm running 2008.8 from SD so that may change some
behaviour vs running it from flash, explaining the network problems.

Anyway, it seems it's rather unstable in the first times the system is
brought up, and stabilizes after a while.
If I unplug the USB cable when I lose IP connectivity, and replug
after 1/2 seconds, then it becomes more stable. Well maybe the fact
that I'm running a ping 192.168.0.202 continously helps also at that
stage : it may help maintain connectivity somehow ?

Anyway, I guess I'll be able to test 2008.8 from flash soon, and may
be able to tell if that's better.

In the meantime, 'screen -R -D' is my friend ;)

Hope this helps.

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Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08?

2008-08-10 Thread Olivier Berger
DooD [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hmm figured out why my above fix was only working on my asu build and not my
 om2008.8 need to install 

 http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/armv4t/illume_0.0+svnr196-r12_armv4t.ipk

 this version seems to let me use whatever keyboard i like, which is how it
 should be. hope it doesnt magically disappear . .


Would you care to elaborate on let me use whatever keyboard i like ?

Maybe you may add a howto into
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ASU_Keyboard_Toggle ?

Many thanks in advance.

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Re: Moving my 2007.2 to SD to try 2008.8 with fallback solution

2008-08-10 Thread Olivier Berger
Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I thought of another way to proceed in between, and started to
 document it here :
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Moving_current_system_from_flash_to_SD


 Great work!  I was going to do something similar to this myself this  
 weekend but I'll wait to hear of your results before I do! :)


One issue I've found is that cp -a didn't relyably copy from MTD/flash
to SD 5 or 6 files.

After diff -r on dirs I found out which and md5sumed them...

That's rather frightening, I think :(

Anyway, I copied them over again, and am now trying to figure out if I
can boot OK with right kernel and if it goes well.

Will report in case of success.
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Re: Moving my 2007.2 to SD to try 2008.8 with fallback solution

2008-08-10 Thread Olivier Berger
Yaroslav Halchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 you better off using cpio or rsync imho for copying filesystems entirely
 since they know more about devices/pipes/etc


You may be right, although on a typical Debian system, I tend to trust
cp -a... Now, it may be a busybox version, with other bugs... or maybe
it's a filesystem reliability issue, and tools won't change that (I
tend to prefer that second option, as copying again same files, but
individually achieved proper md5sums...)

In any case, I suggest that you update
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Moving_current_system_from_flash_to_SD
if you would like to test and document your findings with other
tools.

 On Sun, 10 Aug 2008, Olivier Berger wrote:

 One issue I've found is that cp -a didn't relyably copy from MTD/flash
 to SD 5 or 6 files.


Thanks.

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Re: Moving my 2007.2 to SD to try 2008.8 with fallback solution : SUCCESS

2008-08-10 Thread Olivier Berger
Olivier Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I thought of another way to proceed in between, and started to
 document it here :
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Moving_current_system_from_flash_to_SD


 Great work!  I was going to do something similar to this myself this  
 weekend but I'll wait to hear of your results before I do! :)


 One issue I've found is that cp -a didn't relyably copy from MTD/flash
 to SD 5 or 6 files.

 After diff -r on dirs I found out which and md5sumed them...

 That's rather frightening, I think :(

 Anyway, I copied them over again, and am now trying to figure out if I
 can boot OK with right kernel and if it goes well.

 Will report in case of success.

Once the copying issues are sorted out, it seems to work.

So, as far as I can see, the procedure is a success :-)

Hope this helps.

Best regards,

P.S.: now I can dual boot : placing calls from SD with OM 2007.2 or
receiving calls from flash with 2008.8 : both have bugs, but oposite
ones ;-(
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Re: Network over USB flaky ? - Re: Booting OM 2008.08 from SD - Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

2008-08-10 Thread Olivier Berger
Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Somebody in the thread at some point said:

 | Anyway, it seems it's rather unstable in the first times the system is
 | brought up, and stabilizes after a while.
 | If I unplug the USB cable when I lose IP connectivity, and replug
 | after 1/2 seconds, then it becomes more stable. Well maybe the fact
 | that I'm running a ping 192.168.0.202 continously helps also at that
 | stage : it may help maintain connectivity somehow ?

 This is also quite compatible with the idea the issue is around ip
 allocation on Freerunner side: when you remove and replug you will be
 doing something radical on the usb0 on Freerunner side (I guess the
 semantic is link down / link up, and logical usb0 network device
 stays there the whole while).  But still then whatever deals with IP
 allocation can be triggered to reapply static IP or do DHCP request, etc
 and make the issue go away.

 | Anyway, I guess I'll be able to test 2008.8 from flash soon, and may
 | be able to tell if that's better.
 |
 | In the meantime, 'screen -R -D' is my friend ;)
 |
 | Hope this helps.

 Well no doubt your issue is real, I guess it is not underlying link
 though because I use it heavily with 2008.08 out of the picture here and
 it is OK.

 -Andy

Just to confirm that I experienced a similar behaviour with 2008.8
running from flash too :(

Maybe I'll be able to provide more diagnostics once I'm more confident
with the networking setup in 2008.8.

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Booting OM 2008.08 from SD - Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

2008-08-09 Thread Olivier Berger
Martin Šenkeřík [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Maybe can help reflashing your u-boot with some actual version...


Thanks for the suggestion.

Haven't tried that, but instead, I changed u-boot env to add a new
menu entry including init=/sbin/init.

It went a bit further this time : kernel boots and I can see the
booting splash screen (with boots and progress bar), although the X
server wasn't started, I guess : I get a black screen.

I updated the
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD#Add_uboot_boot_entry to
show an example menu with the init kernel arg.

Anyone succeeded in booting the new image from (micro)SD ?


 I've just tried and install it like that on the SD's ext3 partition,
 and copied the kernel to the first partition (VFAT).

 But after booting, I'm stuck with a :
 Kernel panic - not syncing: No int found. Try passing init= option to
 kernel.

 Too bad :( I'll have to flash ?

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Moving my 2007.2 to SD to try 2008.8 with fallback solution

2008-08-09 Thread Olivier Berger
Hi.

I thought of moving my currently running (quite fine alhough the usual
problems, i.e. I can place calls anyway) 2007.2 system to microSD, so
that I could flash the new 2008.8 image and run it from flash (it
seems I cannot manage to run it from SD, btw).

Would you recommend a good procedure for moving my 2007.2 system to SD
? And would it run fine from SD too, once moved ?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Booting OM 2008.08 from SD - Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

2008-08-09 Thread Olivier Berger
Olivier Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I changed u-boot env to add a new
 menu entry including init=/sbin/init.

 It went a bit further this time : kernel boots and I can see the
 booting splash screen (with boots and progress bar), although the X
 server wasn't started, I guess : I get a black screen.

 I updated the
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD#Add_uboot_boot_entry to
 show an example menu with the init kernel arg.

 Anyone succeeded in booting the new image from (micro)SD ?


To follow-up on that issue.

It seems that after having failed initially, I tried again (nothing
changed), and this time, the X server started allright.

I even was able to input the pin (hard with that strange keyboard),
and place/receive calls.

Success, I declare !

Now, I'll have to update
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.8#Download to update details on
how to boot it from SD.

Thanks for the feedbacks received. It helped me keep on trying ;-)

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Re: 2008 WTF??

2008-08-09 Thread Olivier Berger
William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 OM has a TRAC system - if there is a problem raise a bug for it.  The
 sooner they are told something is wrong, the sooner it will get
 attention.  Especially the keyboard - if people just rant, it will get
 ignored.  Tell them what a pile it is - officially!

 and yes, I raised a bug on the keyboard, and another on the fact the
 phone wont register. 2008.8 makes an expensive paperweight.


Just in order for more constructive attitude, it would be great to
also tell us some URLs about these ;)

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Re: Booting OM 2008.08 from SD - Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

2008-08-09 Thread Olivier Berger
Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Somebody in the thread at some point said:
 |
 | But the first few boots I could not have USB networking working -at
 | all-. Now it works, but I don't really know what was wrong.


 If you updated your U-Boot partway through your testing, for a while we
 put out a U-Boot version that had 50% chance per boot to break USB
 functionality for the whole session.  So I you updated it a few weeks
 ago and then today, it can be that.


Well, I'm afraid there could be something else.

Now, I have found a way to boot to OM 2008.8 from SD (actually VFAT +
EXT3).

But I'm too unable to use network over USB now (works fine if
rebooting to 2007.2 in flash).

lsusb reports :
 Bus 002 Device 105: ID 1457:5122 First International Computer, Inc. OpenMoko 
Neo1973 kernel cdc_ether USB network
which is fine.

Network on desktop side is correct, but no ping nor ssh find valid
route to destination (192.168.0.202) :(

Still my u-boot is pretty recent :
U-Boot 1.3.2+gitr18+64eb10cab8055084ae25ea4e73b66dd03cc1a0cb (Aug  4 2008 - 
02:33:52)

I'm booting with the following env :

bootargs_base=rootfstype=jffs2 root=/dev/mtdblock6 console=ttySAC2,115200 
console=tty0 loglevel=8 regular_boot
bootcmd=setenv bootargs ${bootargs_base} ${mtdparts}; nand read.e 0x3200 
kernel 0x20; bootm 0x3200
bootdelay=1
menu_1=Boot from microSD (FAT+ext2): setenv bootargs ${bootargs_base} 
rootfstype=ext2 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=5 ${mtdparts} ro; mmcinit; 
fatload mmc 1 0x3200 ${sd_image_name}; bootm 0x3200
menu_2=Set console to USB: setenv stdin usbtty; setenv stdout usbtty; setenv 
stderr usbtty
menu_3=Set console to serial: setenv stdin serial; setenv stdout serial; setenv 
stderr serial
menu_4=Set console to USB: setenv stdin usbtty; setenv stdout usbtty; setenv 
stderr usbtty
menu_5=Set console to serial: setenv stdin serial; setenv stdout serial; setenv 
stderr serial
menu_6=Reboot: reset
menu_8=Power off: neo1973 power-off
mtdids=nor0=physmap-flash,nand0=neo1973-nand
mtdparts=mtdparts=physmap-flash:-(nor);neo1973-nand:0x0004(u-boot),0x0004(u-boot_env),0x0080(kernel),0x000a(splash),0x0004(factory),0x0f6a(rootfs)
quiet=1
sd_image_name=uImage.bin
splashimage=nand read.e 0x3200 splash 0x5000; unzip 0x3200 0x880 
0x96000
stderr=usbtty
stdin=usbtty
stdout=usbtty
usbtty=cdc_acm
menu_9=Boot 200808 from microSD (FAT+ext2): setenv bootargs ${bootargs_base} 
rootfstype=ext2 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=5 ${mtdparts} init=/sbin/init ro; 
mmcinit; fatload mmc 1 0x3200 ${sd_image_name}; bootm 0x3200
boot_menu_timeout=9
bootargs=roofstype=ext2 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 console=tty0 console=ttySAC2,115200 
loglevel=8 
mtdparts=physmap-flash:-(nor);neo1973-nand:0x0004(u-boot),0x0004(u-boot_env),0x0080(kernel),0x000a(splash),0x0004(factory),0x0f6a(rootfs)
 init=/etc/startup
partition=nor0,0
mtddevnum=0
mtddevname=nor
pcb_rev=0x000
pcf50633_int1=0x80
pcf50633_int2=0x02

Environment size: 1871/262140 bytes

with menu_9 (which only adds init=/sbin/init, as you can see)...

Any idea why USB may still be broken ? Maybe since it's running from
SD instead of from flash ?

Don't tell me we need another hadware fix because of SD access ? ;-)

I actually have no other ideas for diagnostic (no terminal nor other
network connection ;( ).

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Re: descriptions for openembedded/openmoko packages?

2008-08-09 Thread Olivier Berger
arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 hi,
 is there a place where the packages available in the oe/om source repos  
 are described?
 when looking through the code amassed by mokomakefile i often wonder what  
 kind of apps might be hidden behind some of these hermetic names ...


Browsing at the available applications descriptions in the installer
in 2008.8 doesn't provide much more infos, I guess.

Maybe onliners aren't enough to describe applications ?

Of course that consumes space in the catalogs of opkg (reason for
keeping them short in OE environments in general)... but FR have
enough room for more detailed descriptions I guess.

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Network over USB flaky ? - Re: Booting OM 2008.08 from SD - Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

2008-08-09 Thread Olivier Berger
Olivier Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Somebody in the thread at some point said:
 |
 | But the first few boots I could not have USB networking working -at
 | all-. Now it works, but I don't really know what was wrong.


 If you updated your U-Boot partway through your testing, for a while we
 put out a U-Boot version that had 50% chance per boot to break USB
 functionality for the whole session.  So I you updated it a few weeks
 ago and then today, it can be that.


 Well, I'm afraid there could be something else.

 Now, I have found a way to boot to OM 2008.8 from SD (actually VFAT +
 EXT3).

 But I'm too unable to use network over USB now (works fine if
 rebooting to 2007.2 in flash).


 Still my u-boot is pretty recent :
 U-Boot 1.3.2+gitr18+64eb10cab8055084ae25ea4e73b66dd03cc1a0cb (Aug  4 2008 - 
 02:33:52)


 Any idea why USB may still be broken ? Maybe since it's running from
 SD instead of from flash ?


I kept trying, rebooted, tested, again, again, unplugged USB,
replugged... and TADA, at some point it magically worked ! 

I've typed-in a few commands, got networking (opkg update completed),
did a few more things... and ... it's now gone :(

# ping 192.168.0.202
PING 192.168.0.202 (192.168.0.202) 56(84) bytes of data.
From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable
From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable
From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable

no kernel message on desktop side : usb not unplugged...

I guess it's pretty flaky :( But still I see some (slow) progress ;)

I guess screen will be my friend.

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Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08?

2008-08-09 Thread Olivier Berger
Dimitri [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'm with you, Dirk. This qtopia keyboard just doesn't function right. And
 switching .kbd files does nothing.

 Flicking only toggles the different views of the keyboard, none of which
 contain the enter or arrow keys.

 (Since we're throwing out essential keys, why stop there? Let's remove some
 letters too. I nominate the letter E.)

 I reinstalled matchbox, and I see it trying to come on, but it immediately
 gets cock-blocked by the qtopia keyboard.

 If someone could please explain how to disable the qtopia keyboard, I (and
 many others) would be most appreciative.


And having :
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ASU_Keyboard_Toggle#Reactivating_the_keyboard_toggle_under_ASU
up-to-date would help, I guess.

... if this is what it's about... I'm not sure : ASU
vs. 2008.8... Anyway, might help ?

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Re: ASU 2008.08 image

2008-08-08 Thread Olivier Berger
Benedikt Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Rod Whitby schrieb:
 So whilst it might give an idea of what ASU might look like, it will
 certainly have lots of bugs and features (e.g. the FSO theme) which
 definitely are not in the image you get when you build from the correct
 branch.

 -- Rod
   
 we should editing the wiki then.
 because the wiki definitly saied that this should be the ASU (Om2008.8) 
 Image.

 Is at this place the Om2008.8 (ASU) tomorrow or not? 
 (OK.. ok, i will wait for the offical announcment)

Is 8/8: First official release of Om 2008.8 [1] in the front page
guilty ? : looks like it was announced officially indeed :(

Anyway, now it should be released right ?

I can see two sets of images in
http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080808/ :
 openmoko-devel-image
and
 openmoko-qtopia-x11-image

Is it OK now ? ... which one should be use : my guess is
openmoko-qtopia-x11-image as -devel seems more of
unstable/testing/beta things...

Thanks in advance for any hints.

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Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

2008-08-08 Thread Olivier Berger
Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 a tar.gz file would be very useful for booting from SD card...


I guess you may convert the contents of the JFFS2 to a tarball by
following bits explained here :
http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ModifyingRootImage/

In particular somthing like this on a desktop GNU/Linux (if you run
2.6 kernel) :

mknod /tmp/mtdblock0 b 31 0
modprobe loop
losetup /dev/loop0 Om2008.8.rootfs.jffs2
modprobe mtdblock
modprobe block2mtd
echo /dev/loop0  /sys/module/block2mtd/parameters/block2mtd
modprobe jffs2
mount -t jffs2 /tmp/mtdblock0 /media/jffs2

USE IT AT YOUR OWN RISKS ;)

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Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

2008-08-08 Thread Olivier Berger
Olivier Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 a tar.gz file would be very useful for booting from SD card...


 I guess you may convert the contents of the JFFS2 to a tarball by
 following bits explained here :
 http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ModifyingRootImage/

 In particular somthing like this on a desktop GNU/Linux (if you run
 2.6 kernel) :

 mknod /tmp/mtdblock0 b 31 0
 modprobe loop
 losetup /dev/loop0 Om2008.8.rootfs.jffs2
 modprobe mtdblock
 modprobe block2mtd
 echo /dev/loop0  /sys/module/block2mtd/parameters/block2mtd
 modprobe jffs2
 mount -t jffs2 /tmp/mtdblock0 /media/jffs2

 USE IT AT YOUR OWN RISKS ;)


I've just tried and install it like that on the SD's ext3 partition,
and copied the kernel to the first partition (VFAT).

But after booting, I'm stuck with a :
Kernel panic - not syncing: No int found. Try passing init= option to
kernel.

Too bad :( I'll have to flash ?

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Re: Screen locking while in conversation

2008-07-19 Thread Olivier Berger
Jisakiel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 What about leaving most of the screen without actions, and the
 hangup / hold / speaker buttons in the bottom of the screen? It's
 the part less probable to be touched by funny ears, and that way you
 can still use it fine...


And what about using the phone's buttons to do that instead of the
screen... no ear would be shaped so bizare as to press the buttons ;)

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text mode web browser in 2007.2 ?

2008-07-19 Thread Olivier Berger
Hi

I tried and opkg list | grep to find web browsers (for FR 2007.2) that
would work in text mode (useful to test wifi on a captive portal like
fon, for instance), but couldn't find any.

Any hints ?

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Re: update to quickstart user guide adds known issue section

2008-07-18 Thread Olivier Berger
Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 http://quickstart.openmoko.org/

SNIP

 Comments, questions, and suggestions welcomed.


Hadn't heard of that document before... I was referred to the wiki by
the notice in the box of the FR, so I expect to have reference docs
there... so yes, duplication seems bad to me, otherwise I'd expect
that doc to be referred to from the Getting started page of the wiki.

Just my 2 cents.

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Re: Operation without battery (GTA02)

2008-07-18 Thread Olivier Berger
Jeffrey Malone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I've actually been able to run the phone without a battery.  I booted it,
 plugged in the wall charger, and removed the battery.
 It sat working for an indefinite period of time, while registered to the GSM
 network and with GPS and wifi on (I was testing to see if removing the
 battery could aid GPS).

 Using USB from a computer failed to provide enough charge.  In fact, I
 noticed last night that while running 2007.2 with GSM and wifi on, the phone
 was not able to actually charge from USB.  It was in a charging state,
 drawing power from the USB port.  But it was insufficient to counter the
 actual power usage of the phone, and its battery level would very slowly
 drop (about 1% every half hour).


That's fairly consistant to what's explained at :
http://quickstart.openmoko.org/#chargerdetection

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Re: Updates

2008-07-16 Thread Olivier Berger
Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 How did you execute opkg upgrade ?

 It failed for me
 opkg update was ok but then upgrade ran until my ssh connection was dropped.
 Tried again from FR terminal, and it ran until something like X was restarted.


You may need to check the support list where this has been addressed
recently.

There, I suggested :

1. connect into the terminal app in the GUI
2. there type/tap opkg update
3. also there type/tap opkg upgrade dropbear
4. connect via SSH
5. inside the SSH shell, do opkg upgrade

Hope this helps.

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