Re: greetings from the freecalypso project
On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Spacefalcon the Outlaw wrote: > If you have voluntarily chosen to obey a law that deems the abandonware > in question to be proprietary rather than public domain, it is YOUR > problem and not ours. You are reminding me of this talk and cartoon by Nina Paley. http://blog.ninapaley.com/2015/10/22/copyright-is-brain-damage/ https://vimeo.com/50481436 -- bye, pabs ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: greetings from the freecalypso project
On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 1:01 AM, David Matthews wrote: > Please excuse touch of plug and slight bit of off-topic-ness, but just to let > anyone here with interest in free (as in source code available) baseband > firmware, that the freecalypso project is making strides. Are you planning to rewrite the proprietary source code from TI/etc so that freecalypso could be released under a Free Software license? -- bye, pabs ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: State of FreeCalypso
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Spacefalcon the Outlaw wrote: GSM What is it about GSM that would make you move across the world just to use it? Do your family and friends feel the same way about GSM? -- bye, pabs http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:PaulWise ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: State of FreeCalypso
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 5:28 AM, Spacefalcon the Outlaw wrote: I do have a mobile phone for communicating with my family and friends In 2017, ATT will be shutting down their GSM network in the USA in favour of 3G/4G. Macau is planning to shut down their GSM services in June 2015. I would hazard a guess that GSM will be shut down worldwide at some point, probably sooner in the USA. So eventually GTA02 and Calypo will be less useful for communication as they would need an external device or some method of device-to-device communication like the Serval Mesh. What is your plan for the transition away from GSM? http://mashable.com/2012/08/04/att-2g-wireless/ http://www.dsrt.gov.mo/por/News/special/PressRelease2gArrangementAndInvestigationRpt.html -- bye, pabs http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:PaulWise ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Free phone: smart or not?
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Nick wrote: That said, I do like the idea of having access to strong encryption for SMS type messages and voice, but the way to do that which is compatible with what other people use is to use android apps that communicate over the internet. Which would require a much more complex device than a dumbphone, sadly. I'm guessing you are talking about the software from Open Whisper Systems (and WhatsApp)? There is a python port of axolotl, the encryption system behind Signal/TextSecure (and WhatsApp). I don't know of any code to fully support Signal/TextSecure on Linux but there is yowsup for folks who want to interface with the WhatsApp network, it now supports the axolotl encryption. I expect it wouldn't take much to get that working on the FR, especially since there are already Debian packages of both of those. You would need a UI though, yowsup is command-line. https://github.com/tgalal/python-axolotl https://github.com/tgalal/yowsup -- bye, pabs http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:PaulWise ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtMoko getting bad Network Time
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Jorge wrote: Thanks for the confirmation. A question, can you confirm that the session excerpt is the one of interest, and it actually says the provider is giving the +34 time zone? That would be strange, being the biggest celular provider around here. With my Nokia dumbphone I've never seen something like that (OTOH, time updatting hasn't worked for me at all last time I needed it). America/Montevideo seems to be two hours behind UTC. The log confirms that QtMoko is definitely looking for the GMT-34 timezone. Looking at the QtMoko source code, +CTZV is an Unsolicited result code for time zone change events. https://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/blob/master/doc/html/atcommands.html Your operator's CTZV value is 136. The code handling the +CTZV message is here: https://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/blob/master/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp#L683 That code produces 34 hours in front of UTC for your operator's CTZV value. There are two other FLOSS implementations of CTZV handling that I know of, FSO and oFono: http://www.freesmartphone.org/ https://01.org/ofono Looking at the FSO code, it produces 8 hours behind UTC for your operator's CTZV value. https://github.com/freesmartphone/cornucopia/blob/master/fsogsmd/src/lib/consts.vala#L975 Looking at the oFono code, it produces 34 hours in front of UTC for your operator's CTZV value. https://git.kernel.org/cgit/network/ofono/ofono.git/tree/drivers/atmodem/network-registration.c#n841 I then tried to find a reference for how to do this correctly, since none of the FLOSS implementations I can find produce a result that matches TZ=America/Montevideo. The closest I could find is a reference to the value being an offset from Universal Time in units of 15 minutes. Not sure what the right answer is here, I think you will need to do more testing with the same SIM card in a variety of phones from you and your friends and record the resulting timezone offsets. If you can also record the CTZV value (some phones have debug info available) that would be helpful too, in case different phones get different values or use another command. Start by setting the timezone UTC, then turn on automatic timezone info and then find out what the resulting timezone offset is. If any of them then get the correct timezone you'll need to figure out how. -- bye, pabs ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtMoko getting bad Network Time
On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 2:15 AM, Jorge wrote: I have a correctly set time timezone (America/Montevideo), and when my qtMoko boots up, after connecting to the cellular network a weird dialog appears : The network time is (GMT +34). Set this new time?. If I say No, everything keeps working. If I say Yes the timezone is changed to GMT-34 and as expected the time is borked (00:00 1/1/1970). 34 hours past GMT sounds like your provider has a broken time server. Usually GMT timezones are 0-12 hours before/after GMT and no further. Of course QtMoko should probably handle such broken timezones by ignoring them rather than breaking. Please file a bug about it on the QtMoko bug reports page: https://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/issues -- bye, pabs ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Indiephone.eu
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 5:17 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Their claim that there is no other product appears to be completely ignoring all our efforts of the past years. I expect they simply didn't research the various projects out there already. Here are another few projects/groups that could have some crossover with open mobile communities btw: https://www.blackphone.ch/ http://www.fairphone.com/ https://blog.torproject.org/blog/mission-impossible-hardening-android-security-and-privacy https://guardianproject.info/ http://www.openmediacluster.com/en/user-verifiable-social-telematics-project/ -- bye, pabs http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:PaulWise ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ot] Pi-Phone or blackberry-pi ?
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Ed Kapitein wrote: I took a model A raspberry pi [1] a tft screen [2] and a Arduino gsm shield [3] to create a mobile phone [4] These folks did something similar: http://www.freetronics.com/products/arduphone-arduino-compatible-cellphone -- bye, pabs ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: I tried to install agpsui but failed
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 7:31 AM, Wuzzy wrote: PS: This mailing list seems to be pretty low volume. Is this normal? Yes, the OpenMoko community is shrinking as people move away to other communities focussed on other devices. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:PaulWise ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: IMEI changing kit for GTA02
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: what is semi-legal? I assume that means it is illegal in some parts of the world and not in others. For example illegal in the UK, not illegal in Michael's micronation. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:PaulWise ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner GPIO locations
On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Robin Paulson wrote: problem is, i can't locate the gpio pins on the motherboard. are there any schematics out there with their location? ideally something which relates them to the nodes in /sys/class/gpio/ These are the schematics I can find related to this: http://downloads.openmoko.org/developer/schematics/GTA02/Schematics_Freerunner-GTA02_A5-A7cumulative_public_RC0.pdf http://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/doc/hardware/GTA02v4/gpio.txt -- bye, pabs http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:PaulWise ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Looking for Info on Neo Freerunner
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 2:27 AM, auto78240314 wrote: I am wondering if someone can tell me about the Neo Freerunner's features? Please take a look at the wiki page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner How long does the battery last between charges? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_%28GTA02%29_Battery#Notes_about_expected_battery_life How many megapixels is the camera? The device doesn't include a camera. What is the contact for the manufacturer of the phone? It is no longer being manufactured but the contact details of the former manufacturer are here: http://openmoko.com/contact.html -- bye, pabs ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First small steps toward free GSM firmware
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Ian Stirling wrote: There are separate issues around the IP that you do not have permission to use. This is the illegality that he is referring to, not any potential spectrum/GSM/IMEI issues. I guess he would ignore the latter as well as the former though. On the other hand the Osmocom folks have some notes about potential legal issues with their work: http://openbsc.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/SoftwareLicensing http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/LegalAspects http://openbsc.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/LegalNotes -- bye, pabs ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone (right now)
On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 2:16 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: I already told you that the hardware source files are open and public. I agree with Bob Ham on this. The source files are not public and even the PDFs are not open, they are licensed under a non-commercial license (CC-BY-NC-SA). Even the BeagleBone Black people are able to release some sort of hardware source files: https://github.com/CircuitCo/-BeagleBone-Black-RevA5/ -- bye, pabs http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:PaulWise ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA04-N900 vel. Neo900
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:12 AM, arne anka wrote: maemo isn't great If I were using Maemo, I guess the biggest problem for me would be security support, I wonder if there is any right now? imo, the way to go would be to port all of maemo to debian thereby getting Your wording isn't clear here, but I guess you mean join Debian and get all the new packages and patches from Maemo added to Debian? If you want to start doing that, take a look at these pages. I'm sure that the Debian mobile folks will be happy to help guide you with this. http://mentors.debian.net/intro-maintainers https://wiki.debian.org/Mobile iirc there is/was work going on in that direction. At one point the Hildon stuff was in Debian but it got removed because it became clear that it did not have a future upstream since Nokia was dropping it. Now some things like 0x are in Debian but not much else. In particular I don't think that Debian has a version of Linux that can run on the N900 yet, same for GTA02/GTA04. Probably the same for bootloaders etc. There is some info about how different Maemo (all versions) is from Debian in these files: http://dex.alioth.debian.org/census/Maemo/sources.new http://dex.alioth.debian.org/census/Maemo/sources.patches http://dex.alioth.debian.org/census/Maemo/patches/ These are derived from this data: https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/Census/Maemo If there is anyone from the Maemo community interested in being the contact point for maintaining this info, I get the impression that Jeremiah is no longer involved in Maemo so it would be great to have a replacement for him. https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/Census https://wiki.debian.org/DerivativesFrontDesk -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Releasing GTA04 hardware source files (was: community Digest, Vol 353, Issue 3)
For the GTA04 adapter board you are already distributing the files that Bob Ham is asking for (AFAICT - not an EE). http://projects.goldelico.com/p/gta04-main/downloads/42/ The adapter board license (CC-BY-SA) is more friendly than the GTA04 board license (CC-BY-NC-SA). So I'm wondering about the difference between the two. -- bye, pabs ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: community Digest, Vol 353, Issue 3
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Bob Ham wrote: I don't understand. What is the green light with respect to the GTA04? That was already mentioned; money for components being available. -- bye, pabs ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Building a new totally free phone
Security experts have moved on from that line of thinking long ago I think. The problem with it is that a GSM/3G/LTE modem is not just a communications channel. It is a generic processor running software. Probably buggy, insecure, proprietary software. Same goes for GPS, WiFi, Ethernet and other external-facing firmware. Depending on the architecture of your device and the simplicity and security of the interface between your modem and your, attackers may be able to turn their probably relatively-easy-to-aquire modem beachhead into full control and monitoring of the whole system. This is the reason the Replicant folks strongly recommend against Qualcomm devices, where the CPU is controlled by the modem. Based on the talks I saw at OHM2013, the SIM card may be a similar threat. The good news is that some SIM cards are insecure enough that you (and remote attackers) can calculate the Ki, remove the SIM and use the Ki instead. OHM2013 also taught me that the carrier networks are full of juicy insecure Linux based systems, so you don't just have to worry about carrier collaboration with nation-state adversaries. Yes, we need better protocols but we also need libre embedded software and carriers who run libre software and have some ethics. -- bye, pabs ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone (right now)
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Ben Wong wrote: I wonder if OpenPhoenix has an opportunity now, with all those frustrated would-be buyers out there. Are the Ubuntu Edge specs (or something close) achievable by OpenPhoenix? -- bye, pabs ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone (right now)
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 9:04 PM, Bob Ham wrote: No. I think a better question is whether OpenPhoenix can achieve production of *any* phone? Not currently in stock, but as I understand it, GTA04 exists and is a phone. https://shop.goldelico.com/wiki.php?page=GTA04 -- bye, pabs ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 Screen broken..
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Neil Jerram wrote: I'm sorry to hear that. I've had a few similar falls, usually when I forget that the USB cable is still plugged into my laptop. But so far I've been lucky not to end up with a fracture. Likewise, my gta02 bounces rather than breaks. I hope future casings for open phones have this characteristic too. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Patryk Benderz wrote: [cut] Maqui Berry supplement is the latest discovery in medicine Oh really? Epic fail Radek ;) - I hope you have a backup of your web page. QtMoko moved to sourceforge years ago: http://qtmoko.sourceforge.net/ -- bye, pabs http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM Firmware+Wiki
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Paul Wise wrote: I've contacted him multiple times on IRC and email last year and this year but I never get a response. I looked at my mail again and discovered this isn't actually true. I did get one response from him last month stating he hasn't had time to work on splitting the OpenMoko servers into public and private yet and once that is done he will get back to me. I've sent him another ping now. -- bye, pabs ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM Firmware+Wiki
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:46 AM, joerg Reisenweber wrote: anyway thanks for reporting, glad it worked for you, enjoy MOKO11! I dunno about wiki admins, isn't it a wiki and thus should be editable by registered users at least? If you have problems with the wiki, contact LaF0rge aka Harald Welte please, he's running the whole infra now. Perhaps you forgot, but the wiki got a flood of spam, Harald disabled editing except for admins. He hasn't had time to implement editing for an editors group nor to add some anti-spam tech. I've offered to help with sysadmin but he hasn't had time to give me access to the servers. I've contacted him multiple times on IRC and email last year and this year but I never get a response. The only solution I can think of now is to make everyone who registered before the spam flood a wiki admin. -- bye, pabs http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QTmoko] Qx problems
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Radek Polak wrote: I wonder what happened with xserver-xorg-input-tslib for wheezy - it looks the package is missing: It got removed because the RC bug did not get fixed in time: http://packages.qa.debian.org/x/xf86-input-tslib.html http://bugs.debian.org/674821 -- bye, pabs http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: community Digest, Vol 333, Issue 4
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 5:53 PM, Christoph Pulster wrote: Fairphone aims ... supply chain for conflict minerals, poor working conditions or environmental destruction sounds all very nice and political correct, but is blabla only. I would wager that there are more folks that care about that stuff than there are people who care about FLOSS. Perhaps that means Fairphone will achieve their aims while this community continues to struggle. Perhaps not, only time will tell. WTF do these guy think we are living in ? Capitalism based on pure exploitation of nature and people from poor countrys. Apple does it, Openmoko does it. There is no way back. OpenPhoenux could have said there is no way back when Apple/Android were dominating the smartphone market, but they didn't. Openmoko could have said there is no way back when the market was full of proprietary phones, but they didn't. RMS could have done the same when he came across someone who signed and NDA, but he started GNU and the FSF instead. Everyone who wants to change the world has to start somewhere and then stand behind their convictions. I can only admire them for trying, whether or not they succeed. Defeatism doesn't achieve anything. In old school business it was called design study and everybody was aware, some creative guys had plenty time to fuck their minds not caring about calculations. Noeadays it is called kickstarter, companys are allowed to collect a lot preorder for non-existing products and consumers are even so stupid to make prepayment for these. Openmoko release a full working product. This will be a archivement in computer history. .Fairphone will never do. I am so sick of all this genius preorder products never available. Plenty of kickstarters are seeking funding for ramping up mass production, which I think is a good way to achieve promotion, production and delivery. This community could learn a lesson or two from such folks. -- bye, pabs ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Take a look at these stupid people...
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Sebastian Reinhardt wrote: They said: There is no fair smartphone on market, so we have to invent it Nothing about GTA04 or OpenMoko! Stupid people! A new example for bad journalism... It probably isn't a good idea to start calling potential allies stupid, especially on twitter and thus on their website. If you read their website, they are less about software freedom and more about not contributing to civil war, genocide, environmental destruction etc by buying minerals from warlords mined using slavery-like conditions with zero consideration for the environment. http://www.fairphone.com/about/ http://www.fairphone.com/faq/#q1 http://www.fairphone.com/faq/#q6 To me, the OpenMoko community seemed to be by geeks, for geeks. That the Fairphone folks haven't heard about OpenMoko/OpenPhoenux says more about the publicity and outreach done by our community than about the Fairphone people. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think OpenMoko Inc scrutinized (or had the resources to) their supply chain for conflict minerals, poor working conditions or environmental destruction either. Not sure about Goldelico, it would be interesting to hear about this. There is a potential partnership here, I'd encourage Goldelico to make some connections. FairPhone on arte (here I have seen it first): http://wp.arte.tv/yourope-de/?p=8490 Could someone do an English transcription of that? -- bye, pabs http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v54
On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Radek Polak wrote: it should work out of the box in v54. You can try youtube.com/html5, enter html5 trial and search for QtMoko - that's how i tested. Video is damn slow - it's more like slideshow, but audio should be usable. Btw for youtube there is nice app called minitube that can play download videos. Is the gta02 video acceleration code for mplayer from 2008 not yet integrated into QtMoko? What about SHR? http://unadventure.wordpress.com/2008/06/08/accelerating-in-my-pocket http://repo.or.cz/w/mplayer/glamo.git?a=tree;f=drivers/libglamo;hb=HEAD -- bye, pabs http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:PaulWise ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WIKI is in read-only mode?
On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 11:25 PM, Radek Polak wrote: Maybe i am wrong but openmoko as company is for years dead and nobody of the old admins is willing to spend much time on maintaining the infrastructure. There are other folks willing to maintain the infrastructure (such as me), but it seems the current admins don't have time to do the cleanup of stuff that is needed before they can add new admins who never worked for OpenMoko Inc. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:PaulWise ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v54
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 7:22 PM, Radek Polak wrote: If you want to upgrade (also untested) I tried this but I could not find out where to get your OpenPGP key 0x91B27C1E1DC56A1F and unfortunately squeeze apt doesn't have the trusted=yes option in sources.list to override this. What should the apt sources.list look like for gta02 users now? -- bye, pabs http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:PaulWise ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v54
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Guilhem Bonnefille wrote: I encountered similar issues with obsolete sources.list. Radek told me on IRC that the new sources.list and gpg key information is on github: https://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/blob/master/doc/txt/debian_rootfs_howto.txt -- bye, pabs http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:PaulWise ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tizen released
SRPMs are here: http://download.tizen.org/releases/2.0/tizen-2.0_20130218.10/repos/base/source/ http://download.tizen.org/releases/2.0/tizen-2.0_20130218.10/repos/main/source/ git repos here: https://review.tizen.org/git/ -- bye, pabs http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tizen released
[I'm subscribed, no need to CC] On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 1:51 AM, Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli wrote: was it ported on some real devices beside the emulator? When I was compiling the links at [1] I asked on the IRC channel and was told there is no general page about ports. There was a developer device program that doesn't seem to be distributing devices right now and the Tizen 2.0 release included images, I guess they are for the developer devices. Based on the mailing list archives it looks like various ports are being worked on. https://www.tizen.org/blogs/bdub/2012/tizen-developer-hardware-now-available https://developer.tizen.org/support/development-unit-program http://download.tizen.org/releases/latest/2.0/images/ https://lists.tizen.org/pipermail/general/2013-February/thread.html 1. http://wiki.debian.org/Mobile#Devices -- bye, pabs http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:PaulWise ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tizen released
I asked on IRC again and got a couple of links: https://www.tizen.org/irclogs/%23tizen.2013-02-19.log.html#t2013-02-19T02:51:25 -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeTSM30/FreeCalypso project started
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Harley Laue wrote: I wish you all the best to be successful in your project It would be much better for him to spend time on getting NuttxBB/OsmocomBB working, at least the results would be Free Software and distributable in projects like SHR, QtMoko, Debian, AoF etc. -- bye, pabs http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtmoko - broken app repository
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Peter Viskup wrote: What armhf? http://wiki.debian.org/ArmHardFloatPort Was the repository changed somehow It looks like yes, hopefully one of the QtMoko folks can comment. -- bye, pabs ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtmoko - broken app repository
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 12:04 AM, Peter Viskup wrote: I just tried to install one of the Qtmoko applications and it failed. Maybe you need an apt-get update? The deb is here: http://qtmoko.sourceforge.net/apps/qtmoko-qgcide.html http://qtmoko.sourceforge.net/apps/armel/qtmoko-qgcide_32-1_armel.deb Unfortunately it doesn't look like there is an armhf version available: http://qtmoko.sourceforge.net/apps/armhf/ -- bye, pabs http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:PaulWise ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko keyboard focus enhancement
I would suggest to reduce the opacity too (maybe to 0.5), I keep having to show and hide the keyboard when in the Terminal app. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:PaulWise ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] power off GSM?
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 4:51 PM, robin wrote: did you also try just to echo -en AT at POFF\r /dev/ttySAC0 without setting the modem to dummy beforehand? Doesn't appear to work, at least Linux still thinks GSM is on: # cat /sys/bus/platform/devices/gta02-pm-gsm.0/power_on 1 I guess that it gets turned off and then QtMoko turns it back on. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:PaulWise ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QtMoko] power off GSM?
Hi all, Does anyone know if it is possible in QtMoko to power off GSM on startup and keep it off? I'm only using my gta02 as a computer right now and don't want to waste energy on GSM. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:PaulWise ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] power off GSM?
Unfortunately if I do that then QtMoko doesn't start. qpe seems to be using 100% CPU and the child processes of qpe have all died and become zombies. Setting the modem to dummy seems to be the cause of this. PS: I'm subscribed, no need to CC me. -- bye, pabs http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: possible to use wifi and usb networking at the same time? (qtmoko)
Thats a bug in QtMoko's network setup, it seems to take full control of the kernel's networking setup without asking the kernel what networks are setup already and should remain. It also needs to be aware that not all network interfaces are managed by the QtMoko network UI. You can work around it by starting the USB network from a terminal after starting the WiFi. Run ifup usb0 if using ifupdown for the USB connection (which is the default on Debian). That will give you two default routes because ifupdown also doesn't pay attention to existing kernel network state, but you will still be able to login. If USB is not connected or not forwarding connections then you may need to delete the extra default route to connect to the Internet though: ip route del default via 192.168.0.200 dev usb0 -- bye, pabs http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:PaulWise ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [off-topic] smartphone alternatives?
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 4:05 AM, Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli wrote: Yes it's a really good device: it's almost like the GTA02, but faster, better, less hardware bugs, but also has a non-free wifi firmware. GTA02 also has non-free WiFi firmware, but it is in the WiFi chip's internal storage instead of loaded into internal RAM by Linux. It is also a very buggy beta version. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 4:17 AM, Troy Benjegerdes wrote: How can I get a database dump of the wiki so I can clone it? What I'd really like to be able to do is run a read-write fork/clone of the mirror, and have the backend database be files in mercurial or git, and then we can have an editable version that I can experiment with OpenID auth with, and possibly have an easy way to merge 'patches' back to the read-only main site. This probably requires more patching to the mediawiki software than I want to think about. Timo made a dump a while ago, I guess you should use his tools: http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/openmoko/mirror/wiki.openmoko.org/mirror-tools/ -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam
On Sat, 2012-11-10 at 18:57 -0500, Harry Prevor wrote: Sorry for bringing this somewhat old topic up, but why did this have to be done? I can understand restricting editing to registered users only or adding CAPTCHAs to prevent spam, but isn't making the (still very important) wiki entirely read only very exccessive? I've found a few pages with errors but I'm now unable to edit them, seemingly forever. Please reconsider this. The only sysadmin (Harald) doesn't yet have time to setup some anti-spam mechanisms. I've volunteered as a second sysadmin but Harald hasn't had time to do some things that are needed before he can add me to the team. Making the wiki read-only is a stop-gap measure until some anti-spam stuff can be setup and all the spam pages removed by myself or Harald. -- bye, pabs http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam
Hi Harald, all, To whoever is able to make the OpenMoko wiki read-only, please do so since no-one is monitoring it for spam and removing that: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges -- bye, pabs http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Neon image viewer?
Hi, I'm wondering where the Neon code and development repository after projects.openmoko.org was shut down, anyone know? If so, please update the wiki page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neon -- bye, pabs http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Linux 2.6.38?
Hi all, Are any of the 2.6.37 patches merged into mainline 2.6.38-rc1? Is it too late for them to be merged or are they mostly fixes that could be submitted for mainline inclusion outside the (now closed) merge window? -- bye, pabs http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OM/FSO/SHR related stuff for CELF embedded project proposals for 2011?
From http://lwn.net/Articles/419696/: The CE Linux Forum is looking to fund proposals for embedded Linux projects. Each year, CELF spends money on contract work to improve Linux for use in embedded systems. Some of the projects we have sponsored in the past include Linux-tiny, DirectFB enhancements, smem, U-boot and kexecboot improvements, and Squashfs and YAFFS mainlining. If you have an idea, now is the time to submit it and, with luck, be paid to implement it. http://elinux.org/CELF_Open_Project_Proposal_2011 Some ideas I thought might be useful to OM/FSO/SHR folks: Mainlining u-boot support for OM devices. Support for AR6001/AR6002 in the ath6k driver and mainlining it. Work on porting Linux to newer phones and mainlining Android code. Mainline, bugfix the drivers for the Freerunner Navigation Board. Any more ideas? -- bye, pabs http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] aplay/mplayer broken with pkg-fso linux-image-2.6.34-openmoko-gta02?
On Fri, 2010-11-19 at 23:38 +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
Is anyone else having broken audio on Debian with pkg-fso
linux-image-2.6.34-openmoko-gta02?'
gena2x seems to have found the cause, I had 'Stereo Out Switch' and
'Right Mixer Right Playback Switch' turned off in my alsa settings. Zero
idea how they got like that. The arecord issue is still present though.
r...@booph(Debian):~# diff -u myfile.state aplay34_working.state
--- myfile.state2010-11-20 23:26:52.0 +0800
+++ aplay34_working.state 2010-11-20 23:25:08.0 +0800
@@ -539,7 +539,7 @@
comment.count 1
iface MIXER
name 'Stereo Out Switch'
- value false
+ value true
}
control.54 {
comment.access 'read write'
@@ -864,7 +864,7 @@
comment.count 1
iface MIXER
name 'Right Mixer Right Playback Switch'
- value false
+ value true
}
control.89 {
comment.access 'read write'
--
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[Debian] aplay/mplayer broken with pkg-fso linux-image-2.6.34-openmoko-gta02?
Is anyone else having broken audio on Debian with pkg-fso linux-image-2.6.34-openmoko-gta02? Timo Jyrinki can reproduce it with one GTA02 but not with another one. Here are some symptoms: r...@booph(Debian):~# uname -a Linux booph 2.6.34-20101108.git1508bbb5 #1 Sat Nov 13 22:33:10 UTC 2010 armv4tl GNU/Linux r...@booph(Debian):~# aplay inigo.wav Playing WAVE 'inigo.wav' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 22050 Hz, Mono aplay: pcm_write:1603: write error: Connection timed out r...@booph(Debian):~# mplayer stash/music/penguinplanet.ogg MPlayer 1.0rc3-4.4.4 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team mplayer: could not connect to socket mplayer: No such file or directory Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control. Playing stash/music/penguinplanet.ogg. [Ogg] stream 0: audio (Vorbis), -aid 0 Ogg file format detected. Clip info: Name: Penguin Planet (Authentic Edit Artist: Void Main == Trying to force audio codec driver family ffmpeg... Requested audio codec family [vorbis] (afm=libvorbis) not available. Enable it at compilation. Opening audio decoder: [tremor] Ogg/Vorbis audio decoder AUDIO: 44100 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 128.0 kbit/9.07% (ratio: 16000-176400) Selected audio codec: [tremor] afm: tremor (OggVorbis audio) == AO: [alsa] 44100Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample) Video: no video Starting playback... A: 0.0 (00.0) of 232.6 (03:52.5) ??,?% MPlayer interrupted by signal 2 in module: play_audio MPlayer interrupted by signal 2 in module: play_audio r...@booph(Debian):~# mplayer inigo.wav MPlayer 1.0rc3-4.4.4 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team mplayer: could not connect to socket mplayer: No such file or directory Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control. Playing inigo.wav. [demux_audio] truncated extradata (0 40) Audio only file format detected. == Trying to force audio codec driver family ffmpeg... Opening audio decoder: [pcm] Uncompressed PCM audio decoder AUDIO: 22050 Hz, 1 ch, u8, 176.4 kbit/100.00% (ratio: 22050-22050) Selected audio codec: [pcm] afm: pcm (Uncompressed PCM) == AO: [alsa] 22050Hz 1ch u8 (1 bytes per sample) Video: no video Starting playback... [AO_ALSA] alsa-lib: pcm_hw.c:587:(snd_pcm_hw_start) SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_START failed (-110): Connection timed out [AO_ALSA] Write error: Connection timed out [AO_ALSA] Trying to reset soundcard. [AO_ALSA] alsa-lib: pcm_hw.c:587:(snd_pcm_hw_start) SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_START failed (-110): Connection timed out [AO_ALSA] Write error: Connection timed out [AO_ALSA] Trying to reset soundcard. [AO_ALSA] alsa-lib: pcm_hw.c:587:(snd_pcm_hw_start) SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_START failed (-110): Connection timed out [AO_ALSA] Write error: Connection timed out [AO_ALSA] Trying to reset soundcard. [AO_ALSA] alsa-lib: pcm_hw.c:587:(snd_pcm_hw_start) SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_START failed (-110): Connection timed out [AO_ALSA] Write error: Connection timed out [AO_ALSA] Trying to reset soundcard. [AO_ALSA] alsa-lib: pcm_hw.c:587:(snd_pcm_hw_start) SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_START failed (-110): Connection timed out [AO_ALSA] Write error: Connection timed out [AO_ALSA] Trying to reset soundcard. ... .. . -- bye, pabs http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
LCA2011 Mobile FOSS Miniconf CfP
The miniconfs at LCA2011 in Brisbane, Australia was recently announced and includes a Mobile FOSS miniconf. Are any OpenMoko folks planning on submitting any talks? The CfP closes Friday 22nd October 2010. http://lca2011.linux.org.au/media/news/34 http://mobilefoss.jamespurser.com.au/Call_For_Papers -- bye, pabs http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
repairing FR back cover?
Hi all, So, I dropped my FR one too many times and broke the remaining short prong (I broke the other one a while ago) that holds the end of back cover (near the hole) in place. The two longer prongs on the side of the cover are still intact so the cover stays on but it comes off more easily when I drop it. Does anyone have some ideas for how to repair it, keeping in mind I lost the two plastic bits that broke off? Or are there spare parts available for the FR still? [Please CC me if you reply] -- bye, pabs http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OLPC ARM
Interesting news: http://lwn.net/Articles/395544/ http://www.olpcnews.com/laptops/xo-175/multi-touch_sugar_arm_xo_laptop.html http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2010-July/011319.html Some of the more interesting bits are: They're open-sourcing (almost all of) their embedded controller code and replacing the bits they can't. They're working on multi-touch stuff. They're hiring ARM hackers. -- bye, pabs http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [GTA02] clock reset on battery removal?
Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: USB usb power while swapping batteries so that you don't need to power the system down. Most of the times that I need to remove the battery I don't have USB power, so that isn't very helpful. Yet another hardware design issue I guess, I'm quite surprised there isn't a small battery to power the clock like in PCs. PS: Please CC me. -- bye, pabs http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[GTA02] clock reset on battery removal?
Hi all, I've noticed that the clock gets reset to the year 2000 after shutting down, swapping batteries and starting again. It doesn't happen when I leave the battery in. I usually deal with that by turning on the GPS until FSO (in Debian SHR) sets the system time to the GPS time. Is there any better way to deal with this? -- bye, pabs http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[GTA02] disable resume on headphone jack removal?
Hi all, [Please CC me in reply] My FreeRunner resumes from suspend-to-memory if I remove the headphones from the headphone socket. Does anyone know if that is configurable or if the hardware just doesn't allow it to be changed? -- bye, pabs http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [GTA02] headphone socket issues
On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 12:28 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: Earlier I used Nokia headphones with a 2.5mm plug and had the same one-bud sound issue. At that time I hadn't yet figured out the workaround of pulling it out a little bit, I'll test that later today. I confirm that the workaround of pulling the plug out just a little bit also works with the Nokia headphones with 2.5mm plug. -- bye, pabs http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[GTA02] headphone socket issues
Hi all, When I plug headphones all the way in to the headphone socket, only one of the buds works, but when I don't push it all the way in I get sound from both buds. Same thing happens in both Debian and SHR. Does anyone else have this issue with their FreeRunner or have thoughts on the cause or ideas for how to fix it? [Please CC me in reply] -- bye, pabs http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [GTA02] headphone socket issues
On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 03:08 +0300, Paul Fertser wrote: Hey, this looks very much like you used an ordinary 2.5-3.5mm plug converter which doesn't work due to wrong pinout. Just use correct wiring for the converter (check the wiki), it should work out of the box. I did use a plug converter in this case. Which wiki page can I find the correct converter wiring information on? I guess I'll need to butcher the current converter and rewire it? Earlier I used Nokia headphones with a 2.5mm plug and had the same one-bud sound issue. At that time I hadn't yet figured out the workaround of pulling it out a little bit, I'll test that later today. -- bye, pabs http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Linux dyn-ticks on S3C24xx support?
Thanks for the info. Hopefully the recent frequency scaling patch[1] will help. I'm also excited about the FSCE patches[2], hopefully that will get upstream soon. 1. http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td3920523 2. http://lists.arm.linux.org.uk/lurker/message/20091001.203525.e1d1afd4.en.html -- bye, pabs http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Linux dyn-ticks on S3C24xx support?
Hi all, Back in 2008 there was a patch[1] to enable dyn-ticks on GTA02, does anyone know what happened to it? I get a steady 200 wakeups from idle per second in powertop when using the 2.6.29 version of Linux from SHR. The /proc file mentioned in that thread does not exist. I have added dyntick=enable to the Linux kernel command-line. I imagine the patch would help a small amount with power consumption. 1. http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-June/thread.html#3535 PS: Please CC me on reply. -- bye, pabs http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
